lore-discussion

[shut tide]

yeah fovos was something huh

[sly bloom]

It's Yharim vs. Pre-Ascension Xeroc

Fovos was just him

[raven terrace]

He really caused problems for everyone put calmly.

[buoyant inlet]

Yeah, zaratros is stronger than current yharon

[shut tide]

shows up, gravely injures zeratros, gets weakened and dies to the terrarian

mf couldnt catch a breah

[raven terrace]

Now here's the question.

[sly bloom]

Yeah, but Yharim is stronger on his own, so it evens out

[raven terrace]

Would Endgame Terrarian be able to beat base Zeratros as in completely unfused?

After all, they defeated Yharon.

[sly bloom]

Yes

Zeratros is roughly Yharim's equal

[scenic olive]

im winning against Zeratros

[raven terrace]

Everyone!

[scenic olive]

Just put a mirror

[raven terrace]

Go kick Zeratros's ass!

[scenic olive]

Reflect all the Primordial Light back to him

Boom

Easy win

[sly bloom]

That's how you beat Xeroc too

[scenic olive]

Nah Xeroc wears sunglasses

[sly bloom]

Pull them off

[raven terrace]

I'm willing to bet Jared is where he is solely because of how old he is and has a lack of training of any sort.

[sly bloom]

Yeah, also being blessed by Silva helps

Jared is kind of a meme

[raven terrace]

He scared the shit out of me when i first saw him.

I still have to fight him with my character at some point.

Is it worth killing him?

[sly bloom]

If you're a ranger, yes

Otherwise he's just bragging rights

[scenic olive]

Jared when i show him primordial light

[sly bloom]

Pro tip: Set up Portal Gun portals to refresh your breath

[raven terrace]

"Hey everyone! I just killed the oldest living Wrym alive! Aren't I great!?"
"..."

[scenic olive]

great

Now i can get the artifact

what do you mean its just a rock

[raven terrace]

A rock with big purpose in the future no doubt.

[scenic olive]

Anyways heres a list of previous bosses youre going to fight

[sly bloom]

The Abyss is beautiful. It would look great with a Walmart in it

[raven terrace]

NO

[sly bloom]

We have the technology.

[raven terrace]

Except we're gonna buff them by like x100 cuz f*ck you in particular.

[sly bloom]

Xeroc is a fucking summoner build

[scenic olive]

Xeroc can teleport you

[sly bloom]

Gameplay Mechanics™️

[raven terrace]

I'm willing to bet Xeroc is just chilling out in the great beyond just reading a book and floating upside down.

Probably bored with all that power and time on his hands.

[sly bloom]

Xeroc acting like a nerd, I'll be the high school bully

[scenic olive]

Why wouldnt Xeroc be able to teleport

[raven terrace]

Except when he becomes the quiet kid.

[sly bloom]

[Insert video of getfixedboi Nameless Deity shooting you with a gun]

[raven terrace]

Who wins

Nameless Deity or Xeroc

[mighty zenith]

nameless

[sly bloom]

Nameless Deity is just old lore Xeroc, literally

[tropic oak]

xeroc the goat

[mighty zenith]

nameless is based on a time where calamity wanted to scale to ridiculous levels so yeah

[sly bloom]

Honestly I think Nameless Deity is kinda dumb

Cool fight though

[mighty zenith]

im kinda tired of "omnipotent super powerful god" characters

[scenic olive]

Nameless is actually Fovos if he ate the terraria world soul

[daring crater]

nameless literally spits galaxies at you from a cosmic flower and compresses stars into black holes as he fights you inside of heaven

[mighty zenith]

so yeah im not a big fan of nameless

[sly bloom]

"Incomprehensible horrors?" Yeah I'd just comprehend them.

[daring crater]

you have to admit it sells it well

[sly bloom]

Rip to y'all but I'm built different

[mighty zenith]

i appreciate the effort put into it and it definitely does the concept well

[raven terrace]

Unfortunately, it's what ya got as roadblocks in the world of Terraria. Anything else is canonically dominated.

[mighty zenith]

i just dont like the concept itself lol

[sly bloom]

I'd simply dominate the superdeity too

[raven terrace]

"Turn around."

[scenic olive]

Nameless when i gave it a name

[sly bloom]

Xeroc and Nameless got nothing on the Indomitable Human Spirit

[sly bloom]

"No."

[sly bloom]

🤝

[raven terrace]

"Then we shall do battle."

[sly bloom]

"Nah, you're not a warrior that meets my expectations yet."

[daring crater]

"go kill a mothron and ill be back"

• Yharon

[sly bloom]

Old Yharon was just kinda funny

You didn't even need to make the Silva armor or use a Darksun weapon

In an old playthrough of mine, I beat the first version with Godslayer Armor and The Pack, beat the eclipse, and then beat him again with the exact same gear but now I was "worthy"

It helped that I just preferred the old Godslayer revive (Which had a cooldown of only 45 seconds) to the old Silva revive (which could only trigger once per life and would reduce your max HP)

Anyways, all that to say that Yharon's current iteration is just more epic

[scenic olive]

i beat him with some dumbell

flex on his ass

the phoenix stands no chance

[real silo]

The final living auric dragon vs the overwhelming power of gains

[crimson finch]

Nameless does have an absolute BANGER of a theme

Twisted Garden ROCKS

Petrichor-Stained Destiny
Epicenter of Entropy
Twisted Garden, Laced with Power
Portrait of the Scattered Flowers
🗣️🔥

[pliant ruin]

i think this concept works best when

it's not presented as a challenge or something for the characters to overcome

it's just. there.

omnipotent gods shouldn't have a reason to care enough to fight some random guy and making them actually fight them will just make them feel less like a Force you just gotta Live With

[crimson finch]

I love Clonelamitas, what a neat little thingy she is

Funny little Doo-Hickey

My favorite Gizmo Gadget

[scenic yacht]

[crimson finch]

Also her theme is absolutely amazing.

Love it references every Calamity boss before it

[vocal snow]

do clonelamitas containe memories of her past self?

[real silo]

True

[keen hearth]

[trim edge]

did calamitas perform necromancy on her brothers while she was in yharim's army

or does she just do that while fighting us

[buoyant inlet]

She probably did it long time ago

[crimson finch]

Calamitas Brothers real names are Clarence and Cleveland

Calamitas name is Claire

Nah Claire is a nice name

[mighty zenith]

Caroline

[crimson finch]

Oooh

Good

[real silo]

California

[trim edge]

kilometres

[real silo]

Caitlyn

[buoyant inlet]

C

[scenic olive]

You can contain godly essence in Flesh

[buoyant inlet]

Godly essence is stored in the balls

[scenic olive]

Wall Of Flesh is a Flesh Construct

[scenic yacht]

[scenic olive]

ITS MADE OF FLESH AND BLOOD

Wonder where did they get all that flesh

[mighty zenith]

the flesh store

idiot

[scenic olive]

How many people were sacrificed

just to make it

How many was it Yharim

[pliant ruin]

It's vegan meat

I could go for a vegan burger....

[scenic olive]

does Dragons produce milk

[keen hearth]

If they're mammals

[mighty zenith]

dragons are reptiles usually

[wheat walrus]

I had just went to sleep

[scenic olive]

Dragon milk so we can make Dragon Cheese

[wheat walrus]

ark

"erm but achualy it's wyverns not dragons!!!"

[woeful patio]

Hmm Auric milk yummy

I wonder what Auric meat taste like

[vocal snow]

like electricity

[shut tide]

me drinking auric milk and forgetting im not attuned and getting blown up

[vocal snow]

nah you'll just get obliterated into ash instantaneously

[shut tide]

aw yeah im invincible, the auric milk in question:

[crimson finch]

Hungry Hungry Pizza for me, Give me slice, now.

[shut tide]

Auric pizza??

[vocal snow]

auric mcnuggets

straight from the stove

yharon drops a bunch

[crimson finch]

Did Astrageldon even have lore before getting scrapped

[solar wharf]

is auric edible

can i just

munch on some auric

if i have strong enough teeth and jaw force

[sly bloom]

If it’s mock-attuned auric or if you’re attuned to a dragon, yes. Otherwise, auric rejection annihilates your jaws.

[celest kettle]

Auric foil on ice cream

[graceful otter]

would yharons fire make a good forge

think about it

[brisk frigate]

No

[graceful otter]

theyre really hot

[brisk frigate]

They aren't controllable enough

[solar wharf]

give us auric forge....

to melt the next new metal that drops from noxus!!!!

[sly bloom]

Draedon’s forge already takes auric bars, and I think it’s the best crafting station we’ll get

[graceful otter]

unless extra info is given, i prob wont be mentioning rimehounds and yharim troops for the tundra entry

[solar wharf]

that does imply, our draedon forge is actually in some way "better" than his

because he doesnt have access to auric bars

he did send us the recipe tho

so its just lack of resources mostly

[graceful otter]

why not

[solar wharf]

wasnt silly enough with a dragon :((

[graceful otter]

draedon

literally enhanced yharims armour

which is made of auric

[solar wharf]

ye but he doesnt have any himself because he cant really use it

it would reject anything he tries to put it in

[graceful otter]

???

he did use it tho

[solar wharf]

when?

[graceful otter]

YHARIMS ARMOUR

[solar wharf]

ye, im pretty sure its confirmed draedon wouldv gotten flung

he did some things around it

he didnt use it

he upgraded it

he physically cannot use it

only yharim can

[graceful otter]

[solar wharf]

hence why its called yharims armor

[graceful otter]

how do you think he upgraded the armour

by not touching it??

[solar wharf]

that part we dont know, whether yharim was a really good blacksmith, or draedon found a way to where u can bend it but not use it

either that, or yharim can decide what auric cant reject? unless that was confirmed otherwise

its basically confirmed that auric is strong as fuck, if draedon has access to it, why is there not a single auric in any of his invention?

the only thing that can compete with auric is like what? miracle matter we invented?

[graceful otter]

cosmolite seems more useful due to its flexibility

[sly bloom]

Which is why Draedon still uses it as a metallurgical component

[solar wharf]

was it really confirmed that cosmolite is actually more flexable than auric?

(+ that doesnt explain why he couldnt just use it on weapons rather than armor plating)

[graceful otter]

cosmolite is clearly flexible enough to make armour for a snake

why would he use it for weapons

[solar wharf]

ye but auric cant really be used so... its unfair

[solar wharf]

because for some reason, adding auric to a weapon makes it stronger

[graceful otter]

yea thats called being a strong metal

[solar wharf]

but thats not really the point here

auric is stronger than comsolite and for sake of argument, let say ye, cosmolite is more flexible

that doesnt explain the fact that there is still not a shred of auric in any of his invention

even tho its stronger

not everything needs flexibilty

at a certain invention, power would be worth the trade of flexibilty

to me, its more logical to assume draedon cant use it, or yharim is a very good blacksmith

and just applied the exo technology with draedons guidance

[sly bloom]

It just makes sense to assume he can’t use it: He’s not attuned, and he doesn’t have access to Yharon soul fragments

[graceful otter]

if he needs power, he can use the exo prisms for energy and do shit with that

[solar wharf]

its confirmed that he would get flunged

[graceful otter]

yknow

[solar wharf]

auric will reject him

[graceful otter]

like the exos

[solar wharf]

but noob is trying to argue that, he found a way around it

[sly bloom]

Draedon’s Exo Mech armor plating is legit more durable than Auric

Especially that of Thanatos

[graceful otter]

wat says u cant just be

stronger than the auric rejection

auric rejection clearly cant be this automatic win repulsor, since yharim nearly lost to braelor

[sly bloom]

Well, fought evenly with Braelor and then almost got fucking stabbed by Statis IIRC

[solar wharf]

ye but auric makes weapons stronger for some reason, idk how that works but it does, whether using auric as a base allows you to use more power so the weapon doesnt combust on itself because its durable enough or auric in itself can radiate energy that the player uses to propel or power their weapons, idfk but it is confirmed to be stronger than cosmolite

i dont see why draedon would use cosmolite on his weapons when he can use auric to make his weapons hit with more fire power?

[solar wharf]

because it isnt just pure cosmolite, draedon obviously refined it

ur comparing it to the auric we or yharim has, where we kinda just

bend it into armor

and say "good enough"

[sly bloom]

Yeah, it’s definitely an alloy

[solar wharf]

that could be true but it would be... really inefficient to put into an invention

it would basically be one that wants to constantly combusts

[sly bloom]

My point was that Draedon made something more effective than auric, so he has no real reason to try wrangling auric

[solar wharf]

why not refine auric?

work with auric, see what you can get?

[sly bloom]

Rejection

[solar wharf]

exactly

[sly bloom]

It’s a combination of multiple factors

[solar wharf]

noob is saying he found a way around rejection, but i really doubt it

[sly bloom]

You need auric soul fragments or dragon attunement to work with auric. Draedon has neither

[graceful otter]

whether you like it or not, it was draedon who upgraded yharims armour

[sly bloom]

Yeah, not denying that

[solar wharf]

which confirms that he can probably work with it, just not use it

[graceful otter]

so something can be done to work with it

[solar wharf]

yharims armor if used by anyone else, would kill them

inculding draedon

[graceful otter]

i

wasnt denying that???

[solar wharf]

what were u denying?

[graceful otter]

that he cant use it

[solar wharf]

what is using to you

[graceful otter]

to be done with it in some posivitive way

[sly bloom]

Also, Yharim probably wouldn’t be willing to part with any auric for Draedon to use

Fuckers kinda hate each other

Well, Yharim hates Draedon at least

[solar wharf]

so let say, my friend sends me his armor, and i upgrade it, add better alloy, technology whatever bullshit, and even tho i never took it to battle, or even wore it, but outright when i was finished, gave it back to him

did i use it?

[graceful otter]

you didnt use the armour, but you used the materials the armour was made with

so

draedon used auric

[solar wharf]

im pretty sure the material was already there when draedon applied exo technology?

what says, yharim werent the one that bent it?

[spring helm]

I think he knows how to work with auric, but can’t unless an attuned person (Yharim) allows him to

[solar wharf]

^

[sly bloom]

Yeah

[solar wharf]

he probably has like, 20 theories on how to make auric the BEST alloy

but he just cant because

he isnt really attuned to a dragon

[sly bloom]

A better statement would be “Draedon cannot use auric without assistance”

[solar wharf]

and that would just be a waste of time

because hew ouldnt be able to use it

without it rejecting everything else

[spring helm]

He does have source now

With the Terrarian

[graceful otter]

nothing ingame confirms this is how it was done

[solar wharf]

contact me, for only 67 platinum, you can get ur hands on 1 auric bar without rejection!!!!

[sly bloom]

Terrarian and Draedon are besties now

[spring helm]

Only real difference between our’s and Yharim’s is the rejection

[solar wharf]

our's cant reject

which means

WHY IS THERE NO AURIC BULLETS THEN?

[spring helm]

I suppose not, but that’s just the conclusion I’ve arrived at based on what I know

[sly bloom]

There are, they’re part of Kingsbane

[solar wharf]

EXACTLY

so why cant i use it on my VOIDRADON

[spring helm]

We don’t make bullets out of steel or titanium either even though they’re stronger than lead and copper

[solar wharf]

actually

[tall delta]

according to dia iirc, because It would be really op

[graceful otter]

what if auric bullets are just a bad idea

[solar wharf]

but that could just be explained via titanium being too dense or heavy

auric bullets however do literally exist ingame

kingsbane

[sly bloom]

You want things being heavy for bullets

That’s why titanium isn’t a good bullet material: It’s strong but lightweight

Tungsten bullets actually make sense

[solar wharf]

ye but at a certain point, wouldnt a heavy bullet be a downgrade?

[spring helm]

Non canon

[graceful otter]

it is

[solar wharf]

you sure? its not a donor item

oh ig it uses chain gun

[spring helm]

(Me when I spread misinformation to fuel my agenda)

[sly bloom]

At some point, yeah. But it takes a while to get to that point.

Depleted uranium is a real-world bullet material

[graceful otter]

also

i think i know why auric bullets are a bad idea

look at kingsbanes knockback

[spring helm]

Isn’t titanium lighter than lead

[solar wharf]

ye but thats like, 500 bullets at once

[spring helm]

The weight isn’t a problem

[sly bloom]

Can’t have auric bullets rocket me around at mach speeds, why live

[sly bloom]

It is, and that’s why it’s not a good bullet material. Titanium is light as hell

[spring helm]

Do auric bars also float or just the ore

[sly bloom]

I don’t recall

[solar wharf]

would explain the seeking on kingsbane

[graceful otter]

just the bar

due to the souls iirc

[solar wharf]

anyway, is kingsbane even canon? it isnt a donor or a dev item but it does use chain gun which comes from an event that is non canon

the same argument ig could be made for draedon's forge which we KNOW is canon

[sly bloom]

It probably is canon

[spring helm]

The recipe isn’t canon I guess

[sly bloom]

Yeah

[solar wharf]

is ark of the cosmos canon then?

[sly bloom]

Pretty sure it is

[trim edge]

name is probably hyperbole by the terrarian

but we can pretend it isn't

[sly bloom]

We know Galactica Singularities are a canon crafting material as seen in the Draeting Sim

So yeah, probably just hyperbole

Calamity power scaling tops out at planet level with Noxus

[solar wharf]

that does imply the player did beat the shit out of calamitas with a scissor

[sly bloom]

It’s a really strong scissor

[trim edge]

draedon telling his new partner "i wonder what would happen if you killed my ex, totally not telling you to do that just saying"

[sly bloom]

Or a machine gun, take your pick

[solar wharf]

is the P90 canon lmao?

does the arms dealer just have access to an outright p90

[sly bloom]

Should be

No reason for the P90 to not be canon

[solar wharf]

that does imply, the invention of rifled guns is a thing

[sly bloom]

Yeah, Sniper Rifle confirms this

[solar wharf]

calamity's universe is much more advanced than i thought

[sly bloom]

Using musket balls for almost everything is probably just a gameplay mechanic

[sly bloom]

Draedon is right there

[solar wharf]

ye i'd assume in actual canon, we probably use something along the lines of high velocity bullets

[sly bloom]

Calamity world’s tech is advanced as hell

[solar wharf]

ye but i assumed that was like, a draedon thing only

not world wide

[sly bloom]

Draedon mentions having had “the chance to work alongside the greatest biological minds in the world.” He’s not the only science guy

Azafure invented guns IIRC

[solar wharf]

o

[sly bloom]

Hell, us players make laser guns as soon as Meteorite

[graceful otter]

also i just realised

one really strong evidence for yharim not caring about killing millions of innocents

he calls POLTER of all things the "crux of [his] failure"

[sly bloom]

Yeah, Polterghast is one of the times he admits that he really fucked up

[trim edge]

why does he care about polter so much

[graceful otter]

lost the dragon cult

[sly bloom]

More that Polterghast is a manifestation of the apathy he sank into later on

[earnest sluice]

Is deerclops canon in calamity

[sly bloom]

No

[graceful otter]

no

[trim edge]

how did the cult help him other than providing a prison
which he wouldn't really need if he didn't hold back killing people

[spring helm]

Only a failure because he ignored the dragon cult’s call for help

He doesn’t care otherwise

[graceful otter]

he probably cared for their support a lot since they worship the dragons

[sly bloom]

He insults them in one of the lore entries

[graceful otter]

which probably wouldnt have been a lot of people during the later end of the deific era

[spring helm]

“Killing people is bad because it makes other people stop helping me kill more people”

[trim edge]

real

[vocal snow]

true

[sly bloom]

The fact that he had a prison proves that he did hold back to some extent

[graceful otter]

i dont believe he does

[spring helm]

Kind of?

[graceful otter]

yharim only seems to mock the old books in their library

probably because they told of the draconic era not being perfect

[sly bloom]

Yeah, which he refers to as “Penned with misguided zeal”

[spring helm]

The skeletron lore entry is an insult if you read it a certain way

But not really

[graceful otter]

or maybe some other stuff

like saying good gods existed

[buoyant inlet]

I imagine that cultists could get info that was useful to yharim from prisoners through not so civilized methods

[hallow dagger]

Yeah, I mean after the plague bringer Goliath incident I doubt he had any work with draedon,

Tho this could have been before plague bringer Goliath so idk

[fierce pagoda]

I mean the lunatic cultist was a powerful mage so they were probably valuable to Yharim in that regard too

[spring helm]

the exo upgrade to yharim's armour was after the plaguebringer incident

[hallow dagger]

Ah ok

[solar wharf]

its confirmed that yharim actually came back crawling to draedon

not too long ago

before the terrarains arrival

to upgrade his armor

[hallow dagger]

Ah alrighty, that’s new to me

[hallow dagger]

Dannggg I forgot about that line

So yeah actually that makes sense, if it literally states that he helped tinker with his armor then I don’t see how it can be proven draedon didn’t somehow find a way to use the auric material to a certain extent, without touching it that is

[spring helm]

I mean

I’m fairly certain Yharim can control when it rejects

Otherwise he’d blow up almost everything he touched

[solar wharf]

who do you guys think is winning the arms race

between science and magic

wulfurm basically confirmed that this is actually a thing

[sly bloom]

Science

[solar wharf]

maybe the word science isnt right, because i'd assume if magic existed in our world, eventually it would be categorized as some form of science

assuming magic IS explainable, which then i can see the argument being "then is it REALLY magic?"

it just depends on ur definition

[sly bloom]

Magic is very much a specialist's art, whereas technology can be mass-produced for use by the layman. Both will continue to exist simultaneously, but technology will be used more often.

[solar wharf]

basically the same as "fireball vs a gun"

fireball might have more raw power behind it, a gun can be used by a guy who has 0 experience and never worked out before

while also not really being "talent" dependent

[sly bloom]

Exactly

And as seen in Calamity, technology can go toe-to-toe with magic in raw power too

It's more like "Fireball vs. RPG"

[solar wharf]

i mean, exo mechs vs calamitas is a tie, but exo mechs isnt even the peak of draedon, over time he'd probably figure something out

[crimson finch]

Mmm idk man Magic won’t make a toothbrush vibrate to help clean teeth

[solar wharf]

and if that was to be true, that would imply science might have more fire power over magic

[sly bloom]

I think Draedon will surpass Xeroc eventually

[crimson finch]

But science won’t magically make a meatball sub appear

[solar wharf]

unironically you can, you just need really advanced science

one that can reform atoms with enough complexity and precision

[sly bloom]

Insert Arthur C. Clarke quote here

[crimson finch]

Okay Science wins

[uncut pike]

What calamity mod characters do you think would work best at fast food, i think the best 2 are slime god and… yharon

[vocal snow]

my boy statis is gonna cook extrafast food

[trim edge]

yharon works as the food

[urban hedge]

And funnily enough, it sounds like Draedon has already figured out how to do that, based on some lines in Draetalk

[urban hedge]

While Slime God is the Fuel

[crimson finch]

no.

my Lord would never work at McDonald’s

Show some respect for slime god

[pliant ruin]

slime god would absolutely work at mcdonalds

i am slime god overworked minimum wage employee headcanon truther

[random flicker]

Dog flipping burgers while the terrarian orders at the drive thru

[halcyon dust]

Terrarian ordering everything off the menu just to piss him off

[urban hedge]

(For literally no reason)

[urban hedge]

Btw i only said that thing about Slime God because lionwheel said they thought Slime God would be one of the 2 best fast food workers

[halcyon dust]

He would summon an army of workers without an idea of forced labor

They

Idk

[raven terrace]

What if Yharim discovered Pizza 73?

[random flicker]

And no tip

[crimson finch]

Bro if DoG was cooking fast food, I’d order a bunch of things, then change my mind and ask for a cup of water.

Make him waste time, effort, money, and resources

[raven terrace]

He'd eat you instead.

[crimson finch]

Yharim would definitely bring him into the office

[raven terrace]

If Yharim wouldn't kill him for it, he'd still eat ya's.

[crimson finch]

That giant flying pecker could run these hands any second of the week

And no, he’d just either demote or lower his wage

Not kill him

Or take the wasted resources out of his paycheck

Yharim owns a McDonalds & The Gods, (ran by Xeroc) own a Wendy’s

Slime God definitely hitting the grill making some Baconators 🗣️🔥

[raven terrace]

Shouldn't be too bad. He's got control of the slimes.

Just place the orders in a bag on their heads.

[crimson finch]

Noxus works at Burger King cause he’s an evil twisted mfer

Burger King is rancid and evil

[hushed geyser]

Yeah uh

Good lukc

[crimson finch]

No good comes from it

[hushed geyser]

The bags fucking implode when water touches them

[crimson finch]

Get Aeroslimes to deliver them

No need for door dash

Hell, get slimers too

[hushed geyser]

Poor dashers

Losing money

[crimson finch]

So?

[hushed geyser]

Damn bro really said fuck these guys in particular

[crimson finch]

Wendy’s has fucking slime drones

The Gods are Social Media influencers after TikTok was banned

They work at Wendy’s now

Okay brb

[hushed geyser]

Tiktok ain't gonna be banned for a while

Plus most social media influencers use

Other social media apps

[crimson finch]

It’s just when

HOLY SHIT

THE TERRARIAN IS THE HEALTH INSPECTOR

SHUTTING THEM DOWN

[earnest flare]

which boss would be the best at skiing

[urban hedge]

Cryogen?

Probably not tbh, they're an Ice Cube

Or at least animated ice

[pliant ruin]

Permafrost

[earnest flare]

hes not a boss

[spring helm]

yharon

[pliant ruin]

ok my bad i read that as character instead of boss

my brain it is ailing

[jaunty wraith]

Okay so the debuff the hive mind gives you is called brain rot

As far as I'm concerned, the debuff floods the terrarians mind with family guy clips along with ADHD friendly ASMR like subway surfers

[humble fog]

It cycles between tiktok, yt shorts, and instagram reels

[trim edge]

hive mind = reddit
so the brain rot debuff is it telling you to google en passant or something

[humble fog]

Is there a mod for car crashes in terraria

[crimson finch]

I wish

[solar wharf]

hello my fellow lorians

i wanna thank all of you for being such insan- i mean fun people

[sly bloom]

👍

[reef elk]

No

[wheat walrus]

Gojo mogs this verse 🗣️

[raven terrace]

Spongebob vs Yharim

[wheat walrus]

spongebob mogs

[buoyant inlet]

Spongebob solos all calamity

[reef elk]

My moneys on spongebob

[jaunty wraith]

No amount of draconic power can match sheer cartoon logic

[potent carbon]

Does this relate to calamity lore

[hushed geyser]

Yes

[ruby vortex]

faq says most boss refights are noncanon

which ones are canon?

or could be

[graceful otter]

ks, eoc, potentially boc and eow, qb, duke fishron, dragonfolly, scal

[half roost]

Estimated Shipping Date: August 4th, 2024 - September 3rd, 2024

[stark basalt]

Crazy lore

[wheat walrus]

this lore goes crazy

[humble fog]

I think there might be an estimate for the shipping date

Is this from draetalk

[nimble mist]

@half roost Don't spam.

[solar wharf]

so everything that has multiple instances of it with the exception of scal?

[graceful otter]

yes

[earnest flare]

scal refights are only canon because she has refight dialogue

[solar wharf]

she does?

[vocal snow]

she does severe brain damage to herself each time we refight her

[woeful patio]

I thought Draedron refight are cannon because of all unique combination you can chooses

[vocal snow]

Im pretty sure they are

[earnest flare]

draedon refights are indeed not canon

[vocal snow]

why tho

[earnest flare]

he cannot build more exo mechs in 20 minutes

those are the only ones he got lmao

[vocal snow]

he got the schematics

[autumn mango]

Someone should edit that episode where flatts punches spongebob but edit flatts to yharim

I would but idk how

[crimson finch]

He genuinely does solo Calamity and it’s not even funny

He literally unraveled the universe

He broke reality

The reason is insanity

[vocal snow]

spongebob is boundless

[crimson finch]

haha (dyscontrolled galaxy)

[solar wharf]

if we are trying to be realisitc

the terrarain would get all the weapons first try

because the corpses wouldnt just disappear

like they do ingame

[woeful patio]

Huh that makes sense

[sudden pecan]

Ok im not too deep in calamity lore but why is yharon a boss you have to kill ?

[crimson finch]

I like to think the Terrarian comically eats the corpses of the bosses to get rid of the evidence

[sudden pecan]

It didnt seem like he did anything bad

[pliant ruin]

he's evil

canonically he's the one that went after us

[crimson finch]

Like Eddy eating the bed

https://tenor.com/view/suck-ed-edd-and-eddy-eddy-ed-edd-gif-5684015

[pliant ruin]

like, 90% of the bosses are either evil or a immediate threat in some way

[hushed geyser]

You mean all but like

2

[pliant ruin]

-aquatic scourge

-queen bee

-the end

[hushed geyser]

I forgot if deus is actually summoned or not

[sudden pecan]

From what ive read

[crimson finch]

King Slime?

[sudden pecan]

He was thrown into lava > we summon and kill him

[pliant ruin]

king slime is trying to kill you

[sudden pecan]

And for why

[pliant ruin]

We don't summon him

[crimson finch]

How the hell???

[pliant ruin]

Boss summons (with a few exceptions) aren't canon, just gameplay mechanics

Yharon is specifically trying to kill us

Yharon as a whole is a pretty evil guy

[sudden pecan]

Ok canonically he just shows up and tries to kill you then

[crimson finch]

That’s why we murderered hik 😈

[sudden pecan]

Conveniently when youre in the middle of an arena

[pliant ruin]

Yes

[hushed geyser]

No

Arenas are headcanon

[pliant ruin]

He's basically Yharim's bestie and one of the biggest driving forces behind the crusades, which were a 100 year long event where Yharim seeked to kill every single God and also committed war crimes and genocided entire nations in the proccess

[hushed geyser]

All builds are assumed to be regular houses for convince

[solar wharf]

realistically, he'd just catch you offguard

[crimson finch]

So the giant pecker isn’t crucial to Calamity lore???

[pliant ruin]

ppl should ignore things that are obvious videogame things that wouldnt exist in a actual story

[crimson finch]

[solar wharf]

arenas arent really canon, its just up to you as metvox said

[hushed geyser]

Realistically all bosses are basically just field bosses

You fight them then and there

[pliant ruin]

like no the terrarian isn't the strongest person alive cuz he can carry 200 gold blocks or something

thats obviously just a. videogame thing

[solar wharf]

lies

clear powerscaling

fabsol wanted terrarain to carry blackholes wdym

[crimson finch]

Tbh Terrarian could wipe Steve

[calm patio]

neither lol

[sudden pecan]

Yeah i kinda got jumpscared by hundreds of lines of lore when i pressed the communicate button with draedon

[crimson finch]

????

Wdym neither

[calm patio]

peopl will legit

[solar wharf]

ye, thats draetalk

[pliant ruin]

Yharon is probably within the top 3 most evil characters in the mod's lore honestly

[sudden pecan]

Both immortal

[calm patio]

say the most random shit to make both of them op

[pliant ruin]

he'd be a good third place

[solar wharf]

whos 2nd?

[calm patio]

in this case

[solar wharf]

yharim is first i'd assume

[calm patio]

its the writer who decides to win

steve or the terrarian

[pliant ruin]

2nd and 1st is a tie up beetween providence or yharim

[calm patio]

[pliant ruin]

depends on ur opinion

[crimson finch]

[pliant ruin]

but regardless

[solar wharf]

so then it just depends on xeroc and noxus

[pliant ruin]

they're both 2 and 1, in whatever order

[solar wharf]

what they exactly are

[pliant ruin]

noxus could be up there but i dont see xeroc being a evil guy

at most they seem neutral

maybe i'm wrong tho

[solar wharf]

i mean, for you to be fucked up, you can still be neutral

its like a draedon case

[crimson finch]

Also what’s up with Noxus, did he absorb a soul or is he just there

[solar wharf]

he isnt evil, he just doesnt care

[pliant ruin]

Noxus is

Yep

That's Noxus

[crimson finch]

Just there?

[solar wharf]

we know like, nothing about noxus

except he commands DoG

and he lives in the distortion

hes also fairly stronger than yharim

like a good amount

[crimson finch]

Giratina rip off lookin ass

[pliant ruin]

I mean if he was a person i'd classify him as evil cuz inaction and inflicting pain on others for selfish goals and all

i was thinking more like

xeroc isn't gonna go out of his way to save ppl but also he's not gonna do evil things or turn a blind eye when there's a clear reason to act

[solar wharf]

i wouldnt be surprised if noxus wasnt actually seeking out destruction, but moreso dominance

[wheat walrus]

steve and his city block level lookin ass are overrated as hell even my hunter in mhw after I beat up Nergigante first time could solo his ass

[pliant ruin]

either way rn providence and yharim are definitive top 1 and 2 in whichever order i'd imagine

i can't think of anyone else

that could rank higher than either

[crimson finch]

Woah didn’t know Noxus was freaky like that

I won’t judge

[pliant ruin]

stop

[solar wharf]

NAH

[crimson finch]

Ok

[solar wharf]

ye, i cant think of any either

[calm patio]

[solar wharf]

yharim is probably more evil in terms of actions tho

[calm patio]

true!

[pliant ruin]

yeah yharim did inflict more but i feel like in terms of morality it's debatable

cuz on one hand

[solar wharf]

more bigotted too, providence wants to wipe the world, yharims just an asshole

[pliant ruin]

yharim only kills a specific group, providence is everyone
BUT ON THE OTHER HAND

yharim only kills a specific group, providence is everyone

[solar wharf]

ye

[pliant ruin]

it can be used against and in defense of both depending on ur personal opinion

regardless they evil asf

[solar wharf]

i mean i can see DoG flying up the ranks and going up there

if we know noxus is evil as fuck

as DoG is literally heping him

same thing can be said with DoG and yharim as well

DoG basically fueled yharims crusade, without DoG, yharim would have struggled justifying constant wall of flesh

and his army morale might have just

depleted

[woeful patio]

-Draedon’s engineering skill is without equal, and as such he can create machines with incredible speed.

I saw this in Artemis section in lore documents, That means is that Draedron refight are indeed cannon

[frigid ibex]

The player's engineering (at least their craftsmanship) is shown to rival or even surpass Draedon's. Afterall, they beat Draedon to stabilizing exotech and creating miracle matter despite having FAR less time to work with it.

[urban hedge]

Idk, they kind of had access to a bunch of pretty powerful materials and seemingly just kind of tossed them together to make Miracle Matter, then again that's quite possibly not canon

[woeful patio]

Come to think of it yeah we could create reality defying weapon instantly in a small forge

[frigid ibex]

It's seemingly one of the few things that is definitively canon about the player character.

[urban hedge]

Tbf, maybe not instantly

(I mean why would they add a wait time or something just for lore, that'd be nearly pointless)

[frigid ibex]

There are wait times (albeit short ones) for decoding the Draedon blueprints.

[raven terrace]

The player is a genius when it comes to building I think-

Either that or they just throw things in there and they pop back out as weapons of immense cosmic power.

[solar wharf]

thats headcanon, but if we wanna go off of items

[raven terrace]

They were however able to set up a powerful device made specifically for the purpose of decoding chips and speaking to Draedon in the process. I think that requires a good amount of smarts.

[solar wharf]

they are pretty smart

just not draedon level

[frigid ibex]

If all it took was throwing random stuff together, I think Draedon would beat us. Not only is he a scientist, he has far more time and far greater access to resources.

[solar wharf]

no, ur valid if u want to make that non canon in ur headcanon, there is no full on definitive lore for the player with the except of obviously, killing all the bosses

well not all the bosses, just the important bosses

u can make it ur headcanon that u never killed SG

as u can actually continue the game with that

[frigid ibex]

Draedon literally states that the player created Miracle Matter. We're reasoning out the only explanations on how they could do that before Draedon.

[solar wharf]

miracle matter was also stated by draedon to been just "a bunch of shit thrown together"

with exo prisms being lucky enough to be hot mid battle

to mold them all together

the true 'smart' part, comes into stabilization, which in ur headcanon

can also just say

"luck"

but if u want to say, the player actually einsteined their way thru that

it works too

its all headcanon

[frigid ibex]

"Though, as you were the one to be able to stabilize it, I will begrudgingly refer to it as that." "The various materials that you exposed to the exotic particles melded together in such a perfect way to create a stable substance."

[solar wharf]

the latter literally just implied we threw them together

the first part is as i said

where the intelligence can be argued

u can argue that the player was actually smart enough to stabilize

it

but u can also argue that it was just luck

[raven terrace]

I personally believe the player is
Really freaking ungodly levels of strong.
Smarter than average.
Higher battle IQ.

Everything else determines what the player does.

[wheat walrus]

guys if I wanted to do a scaling thing for a specific character in Calamity which one should I do

[solar wharf]

crabulon

[woeful patio]

Slime

[raven terrace]

Deez nutz

[wheat walrus]

below human level

[frigid ibex]

Whether the player is hyper intelligent, extremely skilled and experienced, or just a prodigy is up to interpretation--that they managed to beat Draedon to such a great achievement despite having less time and resources is not. The way the player magnificently and consistently forges incredible weapons and gear leads me to rule out that they're just really lucky as a primary explanation.

[wheat walrus]

think I should attempt Xeroc cause that guy is the PEAK of Calamity and that will set us a good final point

what a man should strive to achieve in the world of Calamity

therock

[woeful patio]

Getting bitches irl

[wheat walrus]

that's not calamity that's irl

[woeful patio]

Oh

Also would Statis be mad because we beat Slime god?

[raven terrace]

Kill Yharim. take Calamitas to Denny's, kill rampaging monsters, and become a keeper of the peace.

Or just kill everything that breathes or outright cause chaos in any way you can. Lock everyone up! Pour lava over their heads! Their all doomed!

[woeful patio]

Statis worshipped Slime God right? Because of the altar

[frigid ibex]

If I remember correctly, several of his items use drops from the Slime god too.

[civic salmon]

this is gonna be embarrassing but at first I thought Statis was the Bandit. because the Ninja Gear came from King Slime and for some reason I thought the Bandit had been stuck in the Slime God, because apparently all slime bosses have kidnapped a sneaky person or something. and the Slime God gave Statigel names after this Statis person so the Bandit must be Statis. obviously I was wrong on several accounts

[frigid ibex]

We all make mistakes.

[woeful patio]

Nah don't worry I used to mistaken the ninja in slime king to be Statis

[raven terrace]

I find a ninja being stuck in King Slime pretty terrifying.

It shows that even the weakest bosses are absolute menaces.

Unless that ninja was super amateur or something-

[civic salmon]

just a cosplayer

set buffs are a placebo

[raven terrace]

I wonder how big King Slime can get.

While not on the level of the Slime God for obvious reasons, he's the result of a bunch of slimes coming together to make a powerful abomination.

With how many slimes there are, there can theoretically be billions of King Slimes.

[woeful patio]

I wonder if Statis gonna fight us since we beat his deity, or he just pissed.

[frigid ibex]

Won't he be a wandering quest NPC?

[raven terrace]

Wouldnt stand a damn chance at this point-

[woeful patio]

Oh yeah i forgot about that

[frigid ibex]

Maybe he could fight us before then, but that implies that the hard feelings will be resolved or be minimal.

[woeful patio]

I like that idea

[frigid ibex]

A Statis fight would be cool.

Is Braelor's deity Silva?

[woeful patio]

Yeah he has full nature theme armor I think

[frigid ibex]

When was Silva killed?

[rain thorn]

King Slime didn't even eat a ninja, his internal organs just happen to look like a ninja

[frigid ibex]

Yharim says he was the one to have killed her ("Here I disposed of the burgeoning remains of Silva, the Goddess of Life itself."), yet Draedon cites Silva's essense as being a major contributor to Azafure's development (" It is doubtless that the city has been largely aided by the fact that forging is trivial in the Underworld, along with an abundance of food due to Silva's essence dripping down from the Abyss above.").

[wheat walrus]

done

dunno if y'all care enough tho

[frigid ibex]

Pardon me, but what did you do?

[wheat walrus]

scaling Xeroc

powerscaling

the cringe

[solar wharf]

because silva was trapped twice

not just once

first by something else

possibly the dragons

second was by yharim

[tall delta]

I care

[frigid ibex]

Silva, a deity, was trapped in the Abyss by the dragons, then was re-disposed of by Yharim in the same location centuries later?

[wheat walrus]

dropped it in sscls

[solar wharf]

silva at first was JUST an elemental

[frigid ibex]

What is the result?

[wheat walrus]

alr so

Xeroc Scaling Thing

Attack Potency - At least Country Level (On a meta level, they are stated to be incomparably powerful to other characters such as SCal, who can evaporate a sea over time [5,8 Teratons, Small Country+] by developers, as well as being stated that not even the player would beat them. In-universe they are considered far more powerful than the Exo-Mechs and the Primordial Wyrm, to the point where not even the latter would stand a chance), likely Higher

Speed - At least Massively Hypersonic (Should scale to Astrum Deus who descended from the higher atmosphere within seconds [at least Mach 107], as they are the most powerful being in the verse), likely Higher

Lifting Strength - At least Class 5 (should scale to the Terrarian), likely Higher

Striking Strength - At least Country Level

Durability - At least Country Level

Stamina - At least Superhuman (Able to fight against the Terrarian for extended periods of time without losing or tiring out)

Range - Unknown, Thousands of Kilometers to Planetary with primordial light manipulation (can manipulate the primordial light sun)

Intelligence - Unknown , possibly Gifted to Genius

[solar wharf]

dryad + elemental

[wheat walrus]

lots of the info

can be found in my doc

wait a sec

[solar wharf]

her domain was life as an elemental

she absorbed the dragon of life auric soul

turned into goddess of life

and then she was trapped by yharim

for being a god

[wheat walrus]

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1WGHtCM189rw6uVTbWvDWFtrt_X8p3x_c/view here

[frigid ibex]

Could you please cite the source for that?

[frigid ibex]

Thank you.

[solar wharf]

silva is an elemental before, then she became a goddess after absorbing the dragon of life soul

[frigid ibex]

I suppose that answers my question, though I still find it odd that Yharim would dispose of her remains in the exact same location as her original home.

[raven terrace]

Is Silva the strongest elemental?

If so, it's funny she's a step above Brimmy.

[frigid ibex]

literally

[humble fog]

Would think anahita is stronger than brimmy

And silva as goddess is certainly stronger than either

[raven terrace]

It's funny that even though Brimmy is considered above Anahita, you fight them at pretty close times to each other.

Hell, Anahita has a giant Leviathin to aid her.

[humble fog]

Why is brimmy above anahita

Also anahita is

Available way earlier

[raven terrace]

I heard that Brimmy is the 2nd strongest.

I'm guessing the elementals embody the concepts that they are?

Just a wild guess-

[sinful adder]

I would guess that brimmy used to be much stronger before calamitas kinda won

[solar wharf]

i assume because its the hardest place to escape

if it worked the first time, why not the second time

[sinful adder]

Ah, but it wasn't her home, it was her prison. She was imprisoned there before by someone else

[solar wharf]

anahita actually owns the abyss pretty sure

well before silva

thats why she very angy

[pliant ruin]

Hey chat

is there anything specifying if moon lord was trying to destroy or conquer terraria or is it vague abt that

i forgot

[wheat walrus]

not really anything specific

[pliant ruin]

alrighty

ty

[solar wharf]

i mean, we have the pillars

[pliant ruin]

Do we know where the name Fovos came from also, in-universe?

[raven terrace]

I think he was just trying to destroy sh*t.

[solar wharf]

depending on what the pillars are, they can imply fovos wanted to own it

[wheat walrus]

I do but it's not public

sadly

so yeah :3

ohh you meant the name

nvm

I think a dev said it

[civic salmon]

maybe it's dragon for "big fucker"

[pliant ruin]

Like did he just say Yeah my name is Fovos (This implies mf can speak) or was it like, a name coined by the people behind some in-universe language

[solar wharf]

"bitchass"

[pliant ruin]

Unfortunate!

[raven terrace]

It's crazy to think that Moon Lord is kind of only a little past what could be considered the halfway point in the Terrarian's journey. At the very least less than 3 quarters through.

[civic salmon]

or maybe it's the dragon language translation for "cthulhu" (big and dangerous)

[wheat walrus]

that was a misconception sorry I thought you meant the origin of fovos itself not the name

[pliant ruin]

Are any lore devs online right now

uhh klemme chefk

Rebecca is online

Vetrasyl is absent

[wheat walrus]

besides the origin of Fovos I think was people fearing him idk

[pliant ruin]

@spare pier ya there?

[wheat walrus]

provg

[raven terrace]

Were the Dryads still wiped out by Fovos?

[pliant ruin]

I doubt it

[solar wharf]

what if a certain god did that, like a REALLLLYYY racist god

[pliant ruin]

No mentions of it + What reason would he have to go after the Dryads specifically

like the Dragons were obviously attacking him so yeah he SPECIFICALLY would go for them

[spare pier]

What's up?

[pliant ruin]

o hi

[wheat walrus]

fovos name origin in-universe

[pliant ruin]

i was gonna ask what is the origin of Fovos's name ye

[wheat walrus]

is it known :3

[pliant ruin]

if that's public

[spare pier]

Idk, that's Stip's stuff

[raven terrace]

"Are these...DIFFERENT COLORED PEOPLE!? ABOMINATIONS THEY ARE!!! DIEEEE!!!!"
-Fovos probably

[pliant ruin]

i might ask some more questions here and there cuz i'm writing roy stuff rn

[wheat walrus]

isn't there some form of future proofing for roy

[pliant ruin]

uncle ben idk image

[wheat walrus]

check if there's any calamity dev in the dev server ig idk

[pliant ruin]

i'm just making a rewrite of the lore rn to fix some things i didnt like about it and i won't elaborate beyond that cuz i cant probably lol

[wheat walrus]

alr

[vocal snow]

🫡

[humble fog]

Stip like

Stripe

Like from gremlins

Stip is a gremlin confirmed

[wheat walrus]

not sure about stip but you sure are one

me? I'm a clash royale goblin

[tall delta]

iirc the sky people named him fovos

[humble fog]

How dare you

[tall delta]

because he caused fear blah blah blah

[pliant ruin]

@cosmic zenith r u busy,,, sorry 4 the ping

[wheat walrus]

I dared

[wheat walrus]

just drop into dms

:3

[pliant ruin]

fair enough tbh

ill wait for em
to respond tho dont wanna dm him out of nowhere

[wheat walrus]

fair enuff

[pliant ruin]

[frigid ibex]

Xeroc should scale to beyond Daytime Empress in terms of attack potency since that is her wielding some of his primordial light. Is that factored into the scaling?

[wheat walrus]

Yes

The thing is that EoL's scales is much lower than Country Level so it's not really mentioned

[earnest flare]

if you want to make omni kill you then you can use her ingame damage to scale daytime empress and then scale xeroc from there-

[wheat walrus]

That'd just make Xeroc lower

[earnest flare]

oh right, cal makes daytime empress not oneshot

well at least i used it to scale vanilla that one time

[wheat walrus]

What

[earnest flare]

it gets empress' attack potency to 20x the terrarian's durability if you dont care about inconsistent scaling methods across other fiction

[wheat walrus]

Yes that'd be Country+ AT BEST

Actually no

Large Country

[earnest flare]

personally, if i'm scaling against something that exists in the same verse then ingame damage/health numbers are fair game

[wheat walrus]

Things like oneshot attacks can be considered but usually scaling off of specific values isn't because that becomes inconsistent usually

[raven terrace]

Power scaling is fun, but it usually doesn't really matter-

The story has the final say in what happens-

[wheat walrus]

true

[earnest flare]

the urge to make a character the strongest in the verse...

[wheat walrus]

what

[earnest flare]

when writing for stuff like addons it takes quite a bit to make a character not ridiculously strong...

[wheat walrus]

alr

[cosmic zenith]

"Fovos" means "Dread", and it is a name given to it by the sky civilization

That's all I'll say

[wheat walrus]

yhadios

[pliant ruin]

Thank u

[wheat walrus]

[cosmic zenith]

No problem!

[woeful patio]

Holy shit it's the lore man

[earnest flare]

wtf just ask me for info about cal/roy...

[pliant ruin]

[sinful adder]

Oh no did I miss the lore man

[spring helm]

how modern is society in calamity? I've never really thought about it much but are they like, high middle ages?

[sinful adder]

Lore man please answer: what if Silva was banished to space instead of the abyss? Would she tame the astral infection and astrum deus instead of the abyss and primordial worm?

[cosmic zenith]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[real silo]

How would you tame an infection

[pliant ruin]

i mean

are the stars alive

[real silo]

Afaik no

[pliant ruin]

astrum deus maybe?? tho idk if silva would influence beings from space that probably are entirely biologically different from anything on earth

and also probaboly chemically different too

[spring helm]

Stip if you don't mind answering, what era of irl history is Calamity society most similar to. In terms of like, politics and technology (barring the anochronistic anomaly known as Draedon).
Were the kingdoms feudalistic, or was constitutional power more centralised. I know that Ilmeris was a constitutional monarchy but was that the norm or were the merfolk "ahead of their time"?

[cosmic zenith]

Not quite comparable
Some places are more advanced than others, everything (in this area) is ruined now so it's hard to gauge society, and even then there isn't a single irl society period that reflects Calamity

At its peak, Azafure probably would've been a post-industrial society (so 1700s-1800s) with magic at its disposal

[spring helm]

oh wow i guess i didnt need to reword my question again

thank you

[cosmic zenith]

Ilmeris wasn't meaningfully ahead of its time

No problem!

Azafure and Ilmeris were pretty organized societies
I can't tell you what Azafure's government was like, but it was arguably more developed than Ilmeris' due to the fact it was founded over a millenium earlier

[spring helm]

You can't tell me because it hasn't been thought of yet or the info isn't public?

[crimson finch]

[spring helm]

well i suppose it doesnt really matter

[spring helm]

that emoji haunts my nightmares

[crimson finch]

Return To Slime

Wait are the lyrics for Brutal, Stained Calamity Canon?

[cosmic zenith]

Isn't public
It's already established behind the scenes

[crimson finch]

Cause it like switches from The Terrarian to Calamitas then whoever

[cosmic zenith]

With a stretch, yes

[crimson finch]

Mmm thanks pal

Mucho Gracias

[cosmic zenith]

No problem!

[spring helm]

we balling
sofia the first posting on the 1233popcorn Calamity Mod Fanfiction

can't wait to look back at this in 5 years and see all the outdated information i will put in

[raven terrace]

Y'know, of all the classes in Terraria, do you think the Summoner would be the easiest to defeat?

[crimson finch]

It is the frailest

[raven terrace]

He's limited to the minions he can command, and if you can get past them then he's a sitting duck.

[vocal snow]

if you can get past them

[raven terrace]

The strongest thing he can command is a Sepulcher. Anything else is likely to be stomped by endgame opponents really-

And even that has the capability of turning on him-

[crimson finch]

I think either Ranger or Rogue would be the hardest to kill

[raven terrace]

Rogue's are sneaky.

[crimson finch]

Yeah

[raven terrace]

Ranger's just love to keep their distance.

I'd imagine both to be hard to hit.

[humble fog]

Why are you using an apostrophe

[raven terrace]

This? '

[crimson finch]

Why aren’t you using an an apostrophe’ ?

Is there a a problem?

[raven terrace]

For all my spelling errors, I like my grammer.

[humble fog]

That can’t be true

[raven terrace]

It just doesn't feel right putting less effort into it.

But then again, i'm a person who goes ez lots.

Or deez nutz.

[raven terrace]

I consider it true-

[humble fog]

I mean no

You can’t approach them

[raven terrace]

Personally if all the classes went against each other, I think Summoner would die first. Ranger might make it out alive.

[humble fog]

They can use the tankiest accessories and just sit behind their minions

[raven terrace]

But if they go tanky, it gives them less minions to work with.

[humble fog]

There’s a reason summons don’t work in pvp

You can’t do shit about them

[crimson finch]

You can shoot them

[humble fog]

Homing invincible projectiles that go through walls

[crimson finch]

You don’t always have to go up close

Just pop a cap in them

Or throw shit at em

[humble fog]

They can just

[crimson finch]

And they’re frail

[humble fog]

Dodge same as any class

[crimson finch]

Can’t dodge forever

[raven terrace]

The few reasons Summoners would be good canonically is
-Great dodging that assumedly surpass classes like Melee
-Invincible Minions that never die

[humble fog]

people saying this just tells me you don’t know what tankiness comes from

[raven terrace]

Yharim could smack Squirrel Squire and it wouldn't do shit.

[humble fog]

They don’t need to

Their minions tear you to shreds

[crimson finch]

Says who

[raven terrace]

Your talking like their gonna be Melee tank levels.

[crimson finch]

If they can dodge so can I

[humble fog]

This doesn’t mean shit tho

If anything summon is tankiest because you can run most tank accessories and still have better damage than most classes

[humble fog]

There are summons that just latch on and do continuous damage

You can’t escape them or stop them

[crimson finch]

Counter Point

[raven terrace]

What I dislike is that the stronger minions that the Summoner can create either attack them or just don't obey them at all like Calamitas's brothers or Sepulcher.

[crimson finch]

Any attack from any class that auto aims

Wait I worded that wrong

Hold on uhhhh

Any weapon that auto locks from any class

There we go

Like the Pwnagehammer and its evolutions

And the huge ass bonk afterwards

[humble fog]

Those usually have projectiles that need to travel

Summons don’t

[crimson finch]

What’s saying they don’t hit?

[humble fog]

Just summon them on top of enemy

They die

[crimson finch]

The Ornate Shield

[raven terrace]

I mean, Summoner could hold themselves in close combat against the weaker classes like Mage.

They got whips and the tankier options though I ask myself what the point is.

[crimson finch]

Just ram through em

How is this lore

[humble fog]

Doesn’t work if they use projectiles

[crimson finch]

Then just dodge em

[humble fog]

And they’d be on you before and after iframes happened

They wouldn’t get knocked away or damaged by the ram

[crimson finch]

Counterpoint

Just rod of discord/harmony away

[humble fog]

there’s no counter to them

[crimson finch]

You’re not gonna be instakilled

[humble fog]

They just click on you again