#lore-discussion
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Calamity gods are different then usual gods in different iterations
not particularly
Mmmm
anyways bye
They aren’t necessarily Omnipotent all power beings
large amount of gods have always been far more prominent then 1 singular god
ones who have actual flaws
it is a bit hard to create and get immersed in a story when theres just this one guy who can do anything
Idk man the Bible is a pretty good read for me at least
I’m so tired of people thinking that every god has to be Yahweh level
thus why in my latest book review for the bible i gave it a 5/10
i cant understand it while sober
goodbye bro please remember that Monster Hunter elder dragons can solo this verse 🙏
Hhhhh
the plot is all over the place and the villain is barely built up to
theres barely even a climax
Reading the bible is a pain in the ass because so much cultural context has been lost over the millennia
It’s very interpretative
also misinterpreted
Yeah
to the fucking extreme
Idk I never actually read it lol 
Raised with family into J-Man’s teachings
Never really got into it though
god i love reading religious books and reviewing them as if they're no different from other books
Respect em but it’s not really for me
Baller move
Ima go work on my funny slime drawing now
Brb buddies chums pals
the osha manual had a more coherent plot than the bible
real
Ima do Crimulan cause my buddy picked red
the real villain of the osha manual
is how god damn bored i am
reading it
i can see why willy wonka had broken so many osha regulations
at least you dont have to deal with the entire thing flipping topics every dozen or so pages
that shit is a snooze fest
one moment in the bible humanity gets punished bc someone ate an apple, the next the entire world is flooded and a man put 2 of every animal on a boat (somehow)
i understand megamind 2's plot better
And the fact that it's just 2 of every animal suggests horrific levels of inbreeding
damn
... and also the gene pool just doesnt exist
That's pretty much why inbreeding is bad, as far as I know
im not christain but when a god is omnipotent it really shouldnt make sense
if you want to know why inbreeding is bad, look at the jawline of the later habsburgs
I don't need to see that to know that it causes horrific disfigurements & whatnot
Disfigurements might not be the right word, but it's close
what is our goal in calamity lore
The terrarians lore is up to you
So the terraria could be some random fisherman killing gods for fun
^
but i don't know what is the sense of killing gods just for fun
Why do people be gods for fun
so why ARE YOU killing the gods
because they can
where can i find players lore
sorry im dumb
its up to you
You wanna defend your home from invasive gods? go ahead
its ur character
soo its just my decision why am i doing this
yeah
oh okay
I love saying "Christian mythology"
"Oh sorry I was never really into Christian mythology, most of what I know about it comes from video games"
just rialized that 4yro gohan could solo the verse 😭😭😭😭😭
Ultrakill
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Is there any lore behind the frost and pumpkin moon or are they just there?
That said the pumpkin moon and souls of fright imply that creepiness is an actual tangible thing and energy source in the world of calamity
Which explains a lot honestly
ye but the only reason pumpkins are considered scary is because of halloween
which is a christain practice
realistically, a world where religion or christanity never came to be
pumpkins would be seen similar to melons
just a big ass fruit
not canon
they appear to make the terrarian feel like shit 👍
A spooky day in a certain month appears, no matter t he mythological reason
the only canon events are the martian invasion, goblin army, solar eclipse, blood moon
ye but "pumpkins' certainly wouldnt be the cause for all of them
Let’s just say the event summon is non-canon
i headcanon frost and pumpkin moon as hallucinatory events the terrarian goes through
It was all a dream
would boss rush be cooler if it was actually just 1 boss made by xeroc to test us
right after yharim maybe
Then it wouldn’t exactly be a boss rush wouldn’t it
ye thats the point
Idk id prefer a huge wave by wave battle of every foe you fought than a singular boss
More impressive to make 30+ bosses than a singular boss
ye but that doesnt make sense, because its a flawed test
hes throwing things we already fought
which means we already memorized the patterns
we already know what they are gonna do
it isnt a test really
That doesn’t mean it’s easy
its just "hey can you beat it if i make it... 2 times stronger?"
You don’t think a buffed Calamitas is hard?
ye but it is a flawed test
exo box:
if he made 1 WAYY stronger boss than yharim, and we fought that boss
with new attacks
new everything
then thats an actual test
because it doesnt just test brute force
honestly, that's kinda what i expect to happen in some way
it tests the will, mental thinking, skill etc
fighting xeroc themselves as a final test instead of the expected order
its the same reason as to why people hate bloated stats, because it doesnt make you anymore skillful
ur just redoing the same pattern
over and over
Just seems unnecessary
its more unecessary to send random bosses we already fought and claim its a test
It makes better sense for a story/logic sense
Doesn’t mean it’s flawed
it does mean its flawed
It’s not the first time it was used
because it doesnt do its job well
???
Like Math, you’ve done easier stuff but memorized the equation
So if you have a harder equation, you still know the formula, it’s just harder to solve
Fym
because knowledge is heavily unlike fighting
You need knowledge of how to fight wingnuts
yes, and to apply that knowledge to begin with you need skill
if i constantly fight the same boss over and over
Yeah
and then a new boss comes
even if that boss is weaker than the first boss
he would be a lot harder for me
because new patterns
its as simple as that
You don’t get what im trying to sayyyyyyyyyyyyyy
you would not BELIEVE whats coming with xeroc
definition of test here doesnt matter, as testing can apply to many many many subjects
Yeah but
yes sure, memory can be tested but as well as faith, those 2 have nothing to do with eachother and testing them is 2 completely different ways
You need to memorize how to do the patterns, sure but that doesn’t mean it’s easy
same applies to fighting and math
one is memorized the other is learnt
not memorized
Both are learnt
ye but math needs to be memorized
If we’re talking about Terraria, also memorized
fighting doesnt
You don’t remember the patterns?
Then why use fighting????
- canon wise, the player beats all bosses first try
he doesnt remember patterns
he has to adapt to them on the spot

thats TRUE skill
xeroc sending the exact same boss even if stronger only tests brute force
nothing else
maybe memory but thats about it
and that is flawed
unless xeroc only cares about power
which would be stupid
ok so, yeah you’d better pray that you memorized the previous bosses attacks, as they’ve become stronger.
He’s testing if you still have the skills to beat your former adversaries
memory isnt the same as skill, you know what would also test my skill and prove that i am truly worthy?
They have buffed HP cause it’s literally the latest-game available currently
a strong yet new patterns boss
Mmeuskshdkwjshd
YOU NEED TO MEMORIZE THE PATTERNS TO GAIN TJE SKILL OF FOGHING FOWNSHS
DODGING
what are you even trying to say what
yes we do need to memorize patterns but thats not how fights happen? we arent talking about actual games
I was tryna say, “You need to memorize the patterns to gain the skill of dodging them”
Then what are we talking about
Panic dodging:
Okay that’s just swagger stress
ye and now if ur fighting a new pattern that the player never saw, what would be more impressive and give better results as a test?
When testing something for one thing, do you give them a completely different thing to complete?
by making the player fight someone that he already fought, it only tests brute force and memory which isnt what ur looking for in a fight
u need much more
but xeroc isnt testing the player for one thing
we dont even know what xeroc is testing for
The cluster of bosses you fight amount to one subject
Omg why are we even arguing
if you deserve his pet rock
with all the same pattern which again
It’s fucking terraria

only tests brute force and memory
xeroc's motives are a complete mystery right now
which isnt what makes someone a good fighter
what if xeroc was testing for brute force
You never know 🤯
that wouldnt make much sense canon wise and i could say the same thing
we dont know cause we dont know jack shit about xeroc
boss rush is a stupid way to test somebody, and i hope they rework it when xeroc releases
Womp womp
hello chat i just joined and ik a bit of lore here but are the addons canon?

im fine with a rush, just not already fought opponanets
no
Nope
the only canon addon is calamity music, yharon's song is canon
power scaling
idk if there is anything else thats canon
just speak in one sentence
who's the strongest person aside from the player
srry man
Slime God
xeroc, whos stronger than the player
xeroc far outclasses the player
real
Misinformation!!!!

the player canon wise, would never catchup to xeroc
so if we do fight him, its confirmed to be a loss

awh
not a "loss" but we cant kill xeroc
I wanna turn him inside out and use his skin as a carpet

meant it in as a death battle thing
everything is killable with certain equipment
xeroc is near immortal
we cant kill them
"near" so we can
nope
i mean you could probably headcanon some way your characters somehow managed to kill xeroc

we arent strong enough
hell, one of the lore writers did that with her own oc
calamari iirc
you dont know what devs will think of and add
so
for now
no
later, maybe
but it'll remain just that, a headcanon
Xeroc was deathly lethally allergic to peanuts and the Terrarian didn’t wipe their hands after snacking on a tasty PB&J
So when they shook hands
yes we do

Xeroc after seeing the terrarian shoot them with billions of pounds worth of bullets
"yeah your good"
"yeah uhhh... ig ur fine u can continue" (he still cant beat slime god tho)
"yeah you pass"
chat how tf did astrum auerus become a god by eating stars
Wrong
then what
aurues isnt a god
its just a machine infected by the astral
- He just eats stars
"psuedo god" doesnt exist
my bad i keep mistaking deus and astreum
False god
He’s not a real god
But is called a god
so technically mages are also "gods"
i mean they eat stars
people thought it could rebirth stars (it doesnt) so they called it a god, despite not being one
stars are just concentrations of mana in space
they misinformated themselfs
The Mana stars
yoo astrum deus confirmed mage
and fallen stars are quite literally stars that fell (and obviously have less mana in them)
i wonder how much mana deus has then
if he eats real stars
also when yharon hatched from the heat in the lava, did it just comically combust?
????
is there a lore reason that this mod has an uncomfortable amount of Homestuck references
no
(What is homestuck idk indie games)
((it's a webcomic))
i only know of 3 homestuck items, one of which is a donor, and the other 2 were made by the same ex dev
oh
they added a new one today
or
can someone make me fabsols' vodka irl
the entire item is a reference
What references
idk
🤯

If you don’t know pipe down you bum!!!
u meant bum or burn
Bum
Respiteblock is a Homestuck reference, Galaxia references it, and Flamesteed Ring is a reference
that's all I know
wowa
also
is xeroc the guy who became a god??
cuz i forgor
Xeroc is the first god, who absorbed the Auric Soul of Zeratros the Dragon with the domain of light
He has a pre ascension design however his post ascension design is unknown
god
and gave us boss rush
also, was the extinction of dragons (birdos) was like a revolution like when xeroc ate the soul did the other gus started doing it or
chat?
awh
xeroc was the first one
Xeroc ate a soul and people went "holy shit i can do that too"
and then came the extinction of the dragons
(though it presumably took a while considering how long the gray period lasted)
humans alone arent capable of doing that, its just that before all this happened, fovos (full powered moonlord that isnt missing half of his body)
fought the entirety of the dragon race
weakened them heavily
then xeroc took zeratros souls
humans said that and went "woah"
"the other dragons are also weakened
and started doing that too?
swows
we just know it kickstarted dragon genocide
"dragon lives matter"
wait
is there
like
a
and then it just continues on, humans vs dragons which turns into gods vs dragons
date where it happend?
we know its more than a century ago
from when?
kk
someone else here might know?
ye
zerartros is the dragon king, strongest dragon
im holding in the jjk refrence scream, also wdym by dlmain
domain
oh okai
is there also a chance
if
yharim
could kill xeroc
or
atleast stand a chance??
cuz idk the power scaling
a domain is basically a specific element ig? so like the dragon of rebirth yharon, his domain is rebirth
a specific part of terraria ig
NOT AGAIN
what
STOP LEAKING THIS SPECIFIC BIT OF LORE
YEAH

LMAO
lmfao
MY BAD
np
thats wild tbh
keep it secret so pusheen doesnt kill me :((
its weird that that piece of lore has now been leaked thrice
sure thing pal
altraxia told me WAY before u wanted it gone
so i thought the leak was something else
not this
im clueless rn
so we dont talk abt the ravanger thingy
i mean, considering when the player fights him is after noxus, and noxus is actually fairly stronger than yharim, its a no
k
there is no leaks in #lore-discussion
ur allowed to talk about ravager, just not that specific part
well
alr
ur allowed to talk about that specific part too, it just
pusheen wouldnt like it very much...
you're literally not allowed to???
it was leaked lore
oh
revealed?
ye
so a guy talking abt lore didnt know what lore was leakjed and which didnt
??
that's how i see it
but back to the point
yharim is fairly weaker than noxus whos also weaker than xeroc
alr.
xeroc would dog yharim basically
xeroc vs yharim would not go well
- who tf is noxus
@earnest flare there was an entire convo about it that went on for a solid 10 minutes like ages ago
and is he canon or not
all we know is that, hes hella strong, commands devourer of gods in some way or form
and lives in the distortions
okay
what is a distortion
<-- me rn
its the universe where devourer of gods came from
i dont know more than the basics and maybe a bit more, i have been active here for sometimes
the lore guy would be someone like throudon
yk the leaks tho
nothing that isnt in game is up for change
what is ur channel name
Plans do change
its just pusheen_
oh
the underscore is very important
cant find u
lore
i think i watched u
Ima call him “The Deity formerly known as Noxus” like how prince was “The artist Formerly known as Prince”
there's a cool guy
midnight minute
he's called
he explained the lore to me bassicaly
he's nice for beginners
i like to go more in depth/ deeper into theory territory
kewl
despite knowing more lore than 99.999% of anyone whos played cal
ravanger incident
i work on an addon, that gets exclusive lore for futureproofing
yeah its safe to say i know a lot
huh
wdym
wait
im p sure you need to pay $20/month for the lore
😭
im broke + saving for a drawing tablet
waahb
sad
only for a third of the day
i got a few questions and now i gotta sleep off cuz i got some exams tomo
alr
and gl on your exams
timezone?
aw shoit
its 6am for me
when midnight for u
well then
sucks
you better ask some other lore active
What’s Noxus’ obsession with the Zenith colors
😭
likes them
Zenith is a distortion sword?!?!?
(Real?!?) (Police called) (gone wrong) (gone freaky)
Harharhar
Oh hell naw



My headcanon for Astrageldon being removed was Slime God was gonna escape again, but the writers didn’t just want him escaping constantly so they just snatched em and sent him to THE RANCH DIMENSION
how do you feel knowing a 4 yro can solo your verce?
??
gohan
i mean yeah i feel like a majority of dragon ball characters could solo any verse
not really much else to say about it
yeah
I noticed that the Ravager's lore changed from being a resurrection of a bunch of human sacrifices to the Sacrifice God.
yeah sure but who cares its dragon ball powerscaling
kid goku solos this verse and they call them selfs gods
continenal gods are crazyyyyyy
calamity can be soloed by a lot of other character
and other characters can be soloed by calamity probably
How? I think the DoG can probaby solo the Mario Bros (but definitely not Kirby).
not even continental
Kirby can probably solo all of Calamity.
like the strongest gods excluding xeroc are city oevel
kirby is overkill
mario kills dog, fun fact
hydrogen bomb vs coughing orphanage
Which dogs did he kill?
aprently they are continental levels
the one in odyssey
I didn't really play Odyssey much though.
@wheat walrus i summon thee
bad scaling is occuring
what
.
so dog gets cooked
yeah dog 100% gets cooked
idk mario scaling but keep in mind that DoG scales to Small City+ in virtue of surpassing Storm Weaver by a notable margin (Weaver creates storms iirc, and the average scale for that is Small City iirc)

the only characters that scale beyond that are
characters that surpass Calamitas by a notable margin
dog gets no diffed dont bother
I actually thought the DoG was more powerful than that.
dog would be the second boss in a mario game 100%
since her feat of evaporating a sea was Small Country+ as of my calc on it (values were given to me by devs for the size of the sea btw) but she took a while to do that so it scales as an "at most" for her
mario claps her cheeks and solos her verse its not funny
dawg
Did I overestimate the power of post Moon Lord calamity bosses?
that first part is not good
idk maybe
you said it your self she is small country
Did I just walk into
no I mean
the daily scaling discussion
the claps her cheeks part
oh
that's NOT gonna look good at the pearly gates bro
bro its a term
ik but
XSDDDDD
I don't wanna imagine Mario doing that
Would Kirby be able to solo Calamitas?
I guess he could just simply inhale her and gain a copy ability.
these silly powerscalings are back...............
No not just that
But I don’t wanna get into it
Kirby isn’t really canon to Calamity is he
Also I gotta finish my doodle
I was talking about Nintendo's Kirby
The pink puffball
the critter is being cooked
you dont have to
though thats yoshi
Obviously
What💀
its true
bruh yall weak
Strange lore
dafak happened while i was gone
nah
DoG watching Mario create a comedically massive hammer out of thousands of Luigis:
Time to use a bug net to capture it then bring it to a cooking pot! yummy
real
whats the weakest charcter thats solos this verce?
I feel like it depends on what “weak” means in this context
I know of at least a couple of franchises that scale well below the top tiers of Calamity but could probably beat it through sheer hax, but hax is kinda a form of power in its own right
enies lobby luffy
I have no idea what you mean by that
Luffy is not surviving “The Unmatched Power of The Goddess of Ash”
Nor is Gear 5
Just because he’s “The Sun God” he won’t die to any death ray
He will get obliterated
?????
ur max is continet level aperntly
Luffy scales higher than all of Calamity iirc so do what you will with that
and it's not like it's that close either
even speed-wise
at this rate a neuqlear war head beats the verse
have yet to do the scaling for Calamity's speed but I do know that the main thing keeping it possibly at lightspeed (EoL) ain't there anymore cause Primordial Light stuff
they die to this btw
most of them maybe
How about we talk verses that calamity would solo
wouldnt that be cool
tf did i do??
Demon Slayer is outscaled by Desert Scourge btw
whooo
be annoying as hell
real
whp has the anime pfp?
idk how about jujitsu kaisen i think their scaling isn't insane
who has the tjawfhwafhawiuohfioawuhfiuawghfghwagf pfp
yeah
pointing out anime pfps isn’t cool anymore
who has money?
???
and whos the one constantly saying cal gets outclassed for no reason

like
welp om not cool in the first place
no fucking shit sherlock
im just shocked honestly
i thought they were universal
or smt
why be shocked about that
calamity fans when I pull up the monster hunter elder dragons that are often accused of being building level (Kushala deleting a snowstorm outscales the verse)
calamity fans when
when doggone doesn't scale to glupshitto batukamin versal
hearing god automaticaly makes me think that
If you want insane cal powerscaling use the power of your imagination and make nameless deity real
🇮🇹
?
divinità senzanome
hmmm lets thing a verse they solo
🇮🇹
attack on titan
🇯🇲
Kung fu panda
bluey
grey's anatomy 🔥
The Good Doctor
Calamitas burns the hospital
Sesame Street
powerpuff girls
regular dc no comics
Calamitas solos breaking bad 🦭 💪
kid goku dies
kid goku also solo calamity apparently
Power scaling is stupid
yeah
mabye
i mean its dragon ball its not really surprising
The Terrarian can beat goku though
its fun at times

I mean, vanilla terrarian is technically like
incomprehensibly more powerful than the calamity terrarian
this is because vanilla moonlord is cthulhu and cthulhu has a stupidly high cosmology 
personally i think we should change DOG's name to DOCT
also now that i thought
What does that stand for
xeroc can boil people from half of the planet
DOcontinental threats
Lmao
What?
Kneel
Bro
Buu

ikr
i have a solution! make calamity like WoD and SCP where atoms are completely beyond the scaling system for no reason at all 
😭
I really lethal weapons would be a tyranny's end with auric bullets
instantly explodes you
control your off topic gifs user

3rd best
Obviously
4th best
What's going on
and finaly 5th best
Why is lore discussion a meme junkground rn
Can you like stop
uhh chill y'all
tell that to him
ok...
@umbral robin stop spamming gifs; you've been warned
Y'all really lucky that lore discussion is almost abandoned by mods... Well here it is 
what is that
more like projohnson was
I didn't really do this
Cog just arrived
yeah
Hi Cog
Hello, I'm a new member here so I'm just giving my greeting😁
Hello 👋
hello
(PLEASEEEE DON'T SAY SMT STUPID AND GET BANED FOR THE 5TH TIME THIS MONTH)
im so sad that tyranny's end is non canon
are we powerscaling again today?
do you think tyrannys end would pierce thru a tank clean
lemme look it up real quick
it doesnt really seem like i have anything to scale the tyranny's end with
outside of the tooltip that is
going off the tooltip, it seems that it would
if we measure by the amount of defense it can bypass, i suppose so
since the auric tesla armour by itself gives less than 200
and i would say the terrarian surpasses a modern tank's durability around early-mid hardmode
what do you think @wheat walrus, how does the terrarian scale in terms of durability at certain points of the game
same as attack potency ig
newton's third law be like that
donor item
CALAMITY DEVELOPERS, MAKE TYRANNY'S END CANON AND MY LIFE... IS YOURS
lore is incomplete, be patient my guy
A pointless thing that we like!?

you didn't
Welp
and im asking in the process of its completetion that tyranny's end is made canon


it canon in my head
sotrue bestie
Question: Is the place where everything takes place an Island or just the outskirts of a far bigger place?
ingame it's a continent
even if, the gameplay restrictions make it very small
being around 5 kilometers long even with a large world
Oh, so it's a small continent?
not small in-lore, but ingame it kinda is

So why are there two oceans, other than in-game reasons?
guys
why do we need effulgent feather for silva related items
it doesnt even carry over the properties of the feather
¯_(ツ)_/¯
Idk probably because it fits the color
silva likes the dragonfolly
silver
silva dragon of life

just need to texture it
@stark basalt heres the champion weapon that i was working
maybe effulgent feathers are the closest thing they got to auric stuff, so they need the feathers to empower the gear.
Btw, I just realized that we are using a part of Silva's body to make that set
who is still technically alive.
so fucking cool
There's only 1 ocean
Another side is sulphurous sea
Fair point
So I imagine that the continent goes on past sulp sea
Unless it's this type of sea that's connected to oceans
I forgot how they're called
How deep in the abyss was silvas remains thrown
Just before the volcanic layer
Oh my god
Oh my god
I really like this
I assume, judging by where you found the planty mush
Thermal Vents*
If providence (or another auric god) gets a boss form AND a human form after auric soul time, would transformation into boss form use up soul energy?
provi doesnt have a "human" form
Pretty sure Providence is just the main core.
it isnt
The rocks and flames around her are just formed to look like a body.
all of provi is her
pre ascension providence and her knights
no the core thing was scrapped
All the gods used to be humans

Then was mango Silva art pre ascension?
no she can shapeshift, being the nature elemental
can't believe I said this dawg
the story tells about 4 people and their quest to claim the powers of an auric dragon
What soul did Providence absorb?
I do like the concept of humans with incredible power that in canon cannot be a human again, can have an empowered human form and their present monster form altogether
I think it's like an undertale situation.
If a monster absorbs a human soul, they take on a monstrous form and gain godlike power.
In Calamity, if a human absorbs a dragon's soul then they gain godlike power and brand new form assumedly.
It’s more like switching from human form to boss form and vice versa
u dont switch
But I see what you’re saying
its a permanent transformation
yes but it wont be good for you
I will absorb your souls guys
after all, more souls means less control over "yourself"
NO OMNI! YOU WILL LIVE UP TO YOUR NAME!
28 missed calls from DoG
Now we need a cal lore character that gets two souls at the same time
Maybe from sibling dragons
DoG is a b*tch.

No one's worried about him.
Time travel
become the planet
See that's what I was thinking. The concept of absorbing 2 souls is right there.
That would make you all the dragons combined
It's called polterghast
Ego the living planet be like
Fovos level

maybe thats what fovos is
world soul eater
The calamity’s marvel ego
2 auric souls.
No matter what kind of soul it is, auric or not, fusing more than two souls results in something like polterghast
does polterghast think
In pain
But like 100x more powerful-
And painful yeah-
Yeah
dunno
No idea
maybe the auric soul of dark nebula
Maybe a “hive mind” soul
(real)
We don't know.
More accurately, all the gods used to be humans or something like a human. Silva was a dryad.
Does Hive Mind even have a soul anymore? It's a bunch of dead gods desperately clinging to life. There's gotta be SOMETHING in there.
So an elemental
Glass shards of souls
crazy strech theory, Yharon is indeed the last dragon alive but there is another Auric soul other than his thats trapped inside Noxus

