idk, maybe
#lore-discussion
abstract cove
providence is evil?
abstract cove
tbf she did demand sacrifices or smth right
abstract cove
o ye i remember reading about that
scenic olive
tbf she did demand sacrifices or smth right
she wants to burn
scenic olive
everything
abstract cove
its cause the primordial light or smth right
cold owl
providence is evil?
She wants to make everyone equal by burning everything to ash
spring helm
"Don't look at me mortal, I'm naked right now"
abstract cove
o
crimson finch
Jumbo Josh should be added as a boss and revealed to be Yharim’s twin brother Jumbo Jharim
scenic olive
"Don't look at me mortal, I'm naked right now"
dog tapeworm
pliant ruin
extreme nihilism leads to her thinking that life in of itself is bad
and the only way to achieve peace is
killing everyone
abstract cove
o
pliant ruin
Jumbo Josh should be added as a boss and revealed to be Yharim’s twin brother Ju...
thank you for the input
crimson finch
No problem
pliant ruin
providence and yharim are the two contenders for most evil characters in the mod rn that we know of
crimson finch
I’ll see myself out
pliant ruin
it's debatable which one of them is more evil cuz they're like
different brands of evil
but they're both really fucked
cold owl
# killing everyone
Its an even worst version of Yharim
abstract cove
what about the exo mechs/draedon?
abstract cove
they seem pretty evil, atleast in the ways they learn
pliant ruin
he wants to learn, research
i've said this b4 but
draedon objectively can't be evil, or good
abstract cove
thjat's. that's his entire motivation
ye but he does objectively evil things to research
abstract cove
draedon objectively can't be evil, or good
from an outside perspective he can be objectively evil or good
pliant ruin
he might do some pretty evil things, but due to the lack of emotion he objectively cannot be judged on the same level of morality as a human
if he was a human
he'd absolutely be evil
but he's not, and becasue of that he's quite literally outside of any moral scale
abstract cove
kk
spring helm
he has no emotions
Idk about that, he feels pride for his work, he feels annoyance and confusion at the Terrarian,
cold owl
what about the exo mechs/draedon?
We are of unknown nature to him and he wants to study us and help kill Yharim by supplying us with his tech.
abstract cove
why does he want to kill yharim of all people
scenic olive
omnicide
pliant ruin
he wants to research the societal implications of someone like yharim dying
so in other words
spring helm
He doesn’t want to kill Yharim himself, he sees that we want to kill Yharim and is interested to see what happens
wheat walrus
been 12 minutes since pride month started here and people already wanna kill me
scenic olive
im gonna commit an omnicide
cold owl
why does he want to kill yharim of all people
He just wants to see the worlds reaction to us killing Yharim
abstract cove
if he wants us to kill yharim why does he attack us in the first place?
pliant ruin
this gif
spring helm
So he evens the fight and gives us some of his stuff
spring helm
if he wants us to kill yharim why does he attack us in the first place?
Testing
pliant ruin
he wants to know how yharim dying would affect fishing season
scenic olive
RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHH
its over 9000 !
spring helm
RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHH
Omni ban everyone on Reddit, it’ll be funny
pliant ruin
draedon is honestly closer to an ally than a enemy imo, though he's not exactly either
abstract cove
didnt yharim cause the acidic sea and mass trollage of the sunken sea people?
wheat walrus
Omni ban everyone on Reddit, it’ll be funny
cold owl
didnt yharim cause the acidic sea and mass trollage of the sunken sea people?
He made SCal do it.
pliant ruin
cuz she was a child soldier
abstract cove
He made SCal do it.
o
pliant ruin
she was like. 13 or something according to dev statements
spring helm
didnt yharim cause the acidic sea and mass trollage of the sunken sea people?
The sulphurous sea got acidic because of environmental pollution
abstract cove
whats the relationship between scal and brimstone elemental?
wheat walrus
<:wires:1126556862070915214>
we're already getting a lot of flak for the announcement of us going scorched earth on horny comment we don't need more flak because an user on discord told me to ban everyone
abstract cove
they seem similar in powers
wheat walrus
🇮🇹
cold owl
The sulphurous sea got acidic because of environmental pollution
Specifically from Azafure, plus drawdon made it his dumping zone and made it worst
spring helm
The sulphurous sea got acidic because of environmental pollution
Yharim probably made it worse with all the weapon manufacturing
abstract cove
Specifically from Azafure, plus drawdon made it his dumping zone and made it wor...
azafure is brimstone elemental right
spring helm
But it was already a thing for a while
cold owl
Azafure is the crags, the first city
spring helm
azafure is brimstone elemental right
Azafure is the city
cold owl
Home of SCal
pliant ruin
azafure is the city calamitas lived inj
abstract cove
o
pliant ruin
but she was a toddler and didn't know how to control her power
so she uhh
accidentaly destroyed azafure
abstract cove
o
spring helm
Okay she wasn’t that young
wheat walrus
Wilds !
pliant ruin
and her siblings in the proccess
spring helm
That’s not toddler age 🧀
pliant ruin
she probably was a stupid dumb goo goo gaa gaa 9 year old then
a 9 year old is a toddler
don't @ me
i'm right
spring helm
I would say that she was 12 or 13 when she fought brimmy and like 15 when she burnt the fish people
pliant ruin
12 and 14 seems fair enough actually
cold owl
The city was an ally of Yharim that had smiths who made him weapons and armor before Draedon joined.
It was latter destroyed when Brimstone elemental woke up and had an intense fight with Scal
spring helm
Because the bestiary says that she inherited her power as a teenager
spring helm
The city was an ally of Yharim that had smiths who made him weapons and armor be...
Your pfp
It reminds me of the drawing I made
pliant ruin
eye of xeroc
spring helm
pliant ruin
imagine if u wake up on day and you look outside and the eye of xeroc is there
pliant ruin
how would u react
spring helm
Trial of the insane slaps
Facts
pliant ruin
would u be scared or would you go ''oh hey xeroc whats up"
cold owl
CDMusic cooked
abstract cove
why havent yharim and providence fought yet
spring helm
would u be scared or would you go ''oh hey xeroc whats up"
I’m calling Yharim
abstract cove
providence seems to be the perfect target for yharim
spring helm
why havent yharim and providence fought yet
She runs away
abstract cove
literally the epitome of what he hates
pliant ruin
kills a fuckton of yharim's soldiers
abstract cove
She runs away
o
pliant ruin
disappears
spring helm
The strat that works for both slime god and providence
pliant ruin
refuses to elaborate
spring helm
“When Yharim approaches, we run away”
pliant ruin
The strat that works for both slime god and providence
slime god and providence have similar strategies with one key difference
abstract cove
cant yharim just track her down or smth? we murder her and with way worse gear than yharim
pliant ruin
slime god is just
hiding
providence on the other hand is trolling the fuck out of yharim
just
shows up
kills his men
leaves
pliant ruin
cant yharim just track her down or smth? we murder her and with way worse gear t...
he could 100% kill her
if he knew where she was
spring helm
cant yharim just track her down or smth? we murder her and with way worse gear t...
She underestimated us because she saw that we were just one guy
pliant ruin
the reason we kill her is cuz she got cocky and went ''haha lol another person to kill"
then. yknow.
abstract cove
o
pliant ruin
also killing the terrarian would probably be a good way to spread her ideology
like
''look at this so called hero. they just fucking died. because WE'RE ALL GOING TO FUCKING DIE. so MIGHT ASWELL let me KILL YOU
pliant ruin
EoL has very little lore on her as most of the vanilla bosses but
whta we do know
is that she's capable of ''stealing'' power like some sort of parasite
she tried ''stealing'' primordial light
but uhh
abstract cove
o
pliant ruin
it was too strong for her and now she's kind of a ''slave'' to primordial
spring helm
She might be able to instakill us at that point in the game
When we fight her
Primordial light is strong stuff
But not anymore
abstract cove
could the terrarian handle primordial light?
cold owl
it was too strong for her and now she's kind of a ''slave'' to primordial
I doubt it, but I wonder, if she was a slave to it, was she directly a slave to Xeroc?
spring helm
could the terrarian handle primordial light?
Considering Xeroc didn’t think we were strong enough, no
abstract cove
o
cold owl
Xeroc is def that kid to say that they know something cool, but when you ask them about it, they stay dead silent.
pliant ruin
the strongest terrarian gets is probs
glacial rampart
we're already getting a lot of flak for the announcement of us going scorched ea...
holy shit people really are mad about this 😭
pliant ruin
yharim or noxus
spring helm
The devs are not planning on the player being stronger than xeroc
pliant ruin
(depending of how the noxus fight actually goes, if it gets implemented)
either way
noxus is the cap for terrarian's strenght canonically as far as we know
abstract cove
The devs are not planning on the player being stronger than xeroc
😭
spring helm
But I mean
Almost everything about the Terrarian is meant to be player headcanon anyway so
pliant ruin
if xeroc gets added as a superboss
spring helm
Just say you are if you want to I guess
abstract cove
y tho?
cold owl
Does make me wonder, would we be more stronger than Fovos (prime).
pliant ruin
y tho?
- xeroc's stronger than us
- as far as we're concerned there's no reason to kill xeroc
ofc maybe ur character's headcanon wants to kill xeroc or smth but
at a base
there's no real reason to go after xeroc
that we know of
cold owl
2. as far as we're concerned there's no reason to kill xeroc
Xeroc reminds me of evil morty, has insane potential, but his whole character ark is just to fuck off.
abstract cove
cold owl
NOOO
pliant ruin
what does that mean
glacial rampart
could you not
cold owl
NO NO NONNONONO
pliant ruin
i don't get it
spring helm
Hehe
crimson finch
I do 
abstract cove
i don't get it
glacial rampart
the joke is sex
glacial rampart
i long for the day where people are not constantly gross about fictional characters in public discord servers
spring helm
Braelor 2.0
cold owl
i long for the day where people are not constantly gross about fictional charact...
Don't worry in the year 928,566,443,766 it will stop
crimson finch
Don’t know where you got sexualizing characters from chips & dip
glacial rampart
im not an idiot bro 😭
spring helm
Planet mush probably tastes like shit tbh
spring helm
Salty because it’s from the abyss
cold owl
Primordial wym is toxic
crimson finch
Yeah but why would you eat the cool pets???
cold owl
I wonder if someone ever tried drinking out of the glowing green water of the sulphurous sea before
spring helm
Calamity’s vanities letting me have full sized DoG as a pet (I can’t see anything)
crimson finch
You don’t go to McDonald’s to eat the children at the PlayPlace, why would you eat the worms in the abyss???
spring helm
Excuse me?
abstract cove
You don’t go to McDonald’s to eat the children at the PlayPlace, why would you e...
thats what they want you to believe
spring helm
What are you eating at the abyss?
cold owl
Calamity’s vanities letting me have full sized DoG as a pet (I can’t see anythin...
Reminds me of the time when I found the Jelly priestess and she was talking about her deity and I did some research to try and find out who this deity was only to find out the Jelly Priestess is from calamity vanities.
spring helm
Anyway regarding future plans for Silva, if they make her an NPC she’s either gonna be another dryad but with better stuff, or she’s like calamitas and has some other gimmick
At least that’s what I think
Maybe she’ll make us do a quest to earn he her blessing or something
pliant ruin
i long for the day where people are not constantly gross about fictional charact...
oh
://
me too buddy
spring helm
Outside of just being stronger physically, what do you think Silva’s blessing does
Before Draetalk I thought it would extend your lifespan because I assumed Braelor got sent into the Distortion a long time before the game started
But I’m not sure now
spring helm
Idk what that means
wheat walrus
Idk what that means
Forced castration
scenic olive
Silva Flavoured
spring helm
oh dear
broken owl
buoyant inlet
Well, we don't know if solar system even exists
Maybe planets just drift through space in small local groups
graceful otter
Well, we don't know if solar system even exists
it does
low orbit study log (log for space lab)
buoyant inlet
What does it say exactly
graceful otter
"cluster of planets"
buoyant inlet
Well, that's what I meant
"Solar system" would imply that there's a main star that hold all objects in the system together
crimson finch
Draedon looks like a mustard fan
graceful otter
"Solar system" would imply that there's a main star that hold all objects in the...
changed wording to "The planets nearby Terraria appear" instead
buoyant inlet
Yeah that's better I think
plucky juniper
this sounds wrong
wheres this from
plucky juniper
epic
graceful otter
rn ive done on everything space related
except aureus but he isnt rlly
space related rlly
stuck shore
How well would each calamity character (of Yharims army) try to make a Willy wonka experience?
halcyon dust
Signus could be The Unknown
stuck shore
Here’s the Crisp Rat video that made my head scratch about who would be who for calamity wonka thing. https://youtu.be/aalzW792Lgg?si=iuhYOUHjSDd_XgkL
solar wharf
"Solar system" would imply that there's a main star that hold all objects in the...
well we do know there is 1 big sun
fierce pagoda
You guys think statis betrayed braelor and left him alone in the distortion
pliant ruin
I mean, the latter part is true
but i'm not sure about the former
We don't know much about them, character-wise
buttt
the fact that statis wants you to kill signus might be implying he's not exactly happy with him and/or his deal
perhaps it was a sort of faustian bargain type deal
where statis thought he was getting him and braelor out
but signus pulled a fast one and went ''well actually i never said that specifically"
we don't know enough about like, any of the three characters involved to say for sure right now
but i doubt statis actively betrayed braelor
i could b wrong tho
fierce pagoda
I hope he didnt betray him
The lore is full of tragedies already
Let us just have this one win
crimson finch
Jumbo Josh should be added as a boss and revealed to be Yharim’s twin brother Ju...
why’d I say this
dumbass
graceful otter
‘For any desire, there is a price’. A deal bound in Onyx and sealed in blood, and one can have any wish granted– a gateway, a promise, a betrayal.
this is the first 2 lines
of signus' bestiary entry
graceful otter
do we even know if braelor is alive
confirmed to be alive
solar wharf
o
graceful otter
ull meet him during gameplay
fierce pagoda
Maybe Signus was the one who did the betraying
fair token
a Braelor fight would go hard, but theres no reason to add that in base cal
sinful adder
Some kind of sparring match would be neat yeah
fair token
seems dumb
hollow dagger
signus? more like, sigma 🤫🧏 (bye bye!!!) lord forgive me for i have committed a great sin today
sinful adder
That would be dumb
wheat walrus
signus? more like, sigma 🤫🧏 (bye bye!!!) ~~lord forgive me for i have committe...
sigma mogging dawg bye bye gyattling rizzler mew mew
sinful adder
But a fight would still make sense as like, training
fair token
yeah but thats addon territory
god i have like
3 ideas for addons but i know ill never be able to do that shit lmao
pliant ruin
i mean
the reason calamitas thinks ur gonna be yharim 2 is
she knows of ur actions
braelor is just stuck on the distortion then u show up without him knowing you
would he just come to that conclusion cuz ur wearing auric or something LMAO
fair token
Calamitas knows of your actions and not of you
Braelor will be learning of your actions with the context of you saving him
fair token
Calamitas is jadded as hell (reasonably so)
so she sees yhour actions and doesnt even give you a chance to say your piece
from what we know of Braelor
i think he would let us say our piece
and you know Calamitas didnt give us any chance to talk because if she did she probably wouldnt fight us if we mentioned Permafrost was on our side
which idk like if your terrarian has any braincells and was confronted by calamitas and given a chance to talk
the first thing youd mention is permafrost
one fo the only things you know that would give her pause
solar wharf
braelor is just stuck on the distortion then u show up without him knowing you
if you see an auric man walking toward you after a dragon genocide
u assuming hes friend with a dragon thats fine with the genocide?
wait nvm
if we meet braelor its gonna be
before yharon
as thats when we enter distrotion
nvm
sinful adder
There's the whole "mock attunement" thing that was known about
solar wharf
that was known?
floral crane
Amidias knew about it
pliant ruin
idk i just dont think braelor would have any reason to think we're yharim 2
fair token
if we mert Braelor its probably post dog, so i imagine he will know 2 things of us when we meet him
we killed DoG
pliant ruin
given he dosent know anything we've done
solar wharf
he has no reason to trust us either
also i didnt outright mean yharim 2.0 like what calamitas was thinking
braelor would be more...
mentally stable
violence wouldnt be
the first thing he would do
or atleast is what i think of him
solar wharf
it just reaches a point where, "ok so this guy killed slime god... my husbands god, is he really a good guy?"
fair token
it attacked us
solar wharf
ye but if i kill ur friend and say "HE ATTACKED ME" with no evidence
u really gonna trust me?
- to him, slime god attacking us could mean we were a threat to something
which braelor could take as
"this guy might be evil"
pliant ruin
it just reaches a point where, "ok so this guy killed slime god... my husbands g...
Oh
actually
if he knew we killed slime god
fair token
when you hear us out and all the people we have to vouch for us, unless you have some weird headcanon for your terrarian
Braelor wouldnt fight us
pliant ruin
thta might actually be a good reason for him to be suspicious
but i don't think he'd just see a random person that's strong enough to kill DoG and think Yharim
Yharim 2 kill now
i remember how devs stated smth about
our actions influencing how much npcs like us sometime here, even if it wasn't exactly that
ofc don't quote me on that
i wonder if they'd ever think of
fair token
also thats not even like
fair token
considering the fact that maybe when we meet Braelor
pliant ruin
making both statis and braelor like us more
fair token
we've figured out statis' shit
solar wharf
when you hear us out and all the people we have to vouch for us, unless you have...
the only person that could vouch for us is amidias, i dont see why braelor couldnt see them as my allies
they always would vouch for me
fair token
the only person that could vouch for us is amidias, i dont see why braelor could...
all the other npcs?
solar wharf
however amidias got fucked by evil mfs so braelor would probably doubt
him joining us
floral crane
Statis could vouch for us when he gets added maybe
solar wharf
if we were evil
pliant ruin
permafrost and amidias could def vouch for us
graceful otter
some way of ''sparing'' certain bosses like slime god lol
"im sorry my guy i thought your slimes were trying to kill me, ill stop now"
pliant ruin
and honestly probably statis too
also all the otgher npcs but they don't matter so who cares
solar wharf
all the other npcs?
june, is one of my friends saying "YEAH UR FRIEND STARTED IT FIRST" worthy enough evidence?
fair token
vanilla npcs react to stuff in cal so you ahve to consider that
fair token
june, is one of my friends saying "YEAH UR FRIEND STARTED IT FIRST" worthy enoug...
no, but a ton of people vouching for that person's character
floral crane
"Nah they're tryna kill Yharim too, they're chill"
fair token
is enough
pliant ruin
astrum deus comes back from space out of nowhere to go ''yeah that guy is cool he freed me from the infection" and everyone is like ''wtf is that guy doing her - WAIT IT CAN TALK" and then it just immediately goes back to space as if nothing happened
solar wharf
what says those people arent just my faction
they do live in an area we built
amidias could probably pull it off as i assume braelor recongizes him
pliant ruin
i mean fair enough but also that'd require you to be a good bit paranoid
solar wharf
most of the npcs are nobody tho
solar wharf
have you seen yharims army? to be that manipulated
pliant ruin
which i think the only character that would be that paranoid would be calamitas but we don't know much abt braelor or statis personality wise yet so
solar wharf
why wouldnt braelor think thats another possibility
fair token
why wouldnt braelor think thats another possibility
He could but hed have to be very jaded
and id like to have some people who arent jaded
for once
solar wharf
but braelor cant just be that trusting
pliant ruin
i mean
that dosen't feel like being particularly trusting
it just feels like not being paranoid
sinful adder
braelor hasn't been on the distortion for that long
It's been like a decade probably
solar wharf
i agree that amidias would probably pull it off, hes famous and got fucked by yharim, he isnt easy to manipulate as he has experience and used to be good
sinful adder
No?
solar wharf
but i dont think random npcs would
pliant ruin
some person saved you, some other people confirm that Yes they're cool, and you jump to the idea that they're like Yharim singularly because they killed slime god
solar wharf
It's been like a decade probably
less
pliant ruin
At best
solar wharf
draetalk
pliant ruin
i can see
Braelor being reasonably a bit Upset that we killed slime god and maybe not liking us That Much
but i doubt he'd just
This guy is Evil
This guy is Evil trust me
solar wharf
some person saved you, some other people confirm that Yes they're cool, and you ...
its not singularly, slime god to braelor was a god that is good and didnt kill for no reason
if he went after us that implies we did something
so braelor would think
pliant ruin
I mean
solar wharf
"is this guy a threat"
pliant ruin
we don't know much abt slime god even
we know it wasn't necessarily evil
but nothing outright says it was benevolent
we probalby should wait for statis to rly decide
solar wharf
ye killing for no reason is outright evil, and thats confirmed to not be the case
graceful otter
me when i dont fight slime god but kill queen slime (ive broken the entire narrative)
solar wharf
its very dumb for braelor to trust words when he known slime god
to not be evil
and to not kill for petty or no reason
so why would the terrarain be good if sg
decided
"oh this guy needs to go"
i honestly agree with the claim that braelor wouldnt attack us
fair token
Balance does not care about good or evil
Slime God would probably go after a saint beucase thats still not balanced
solar wharf
he probably at best would just be "im gonna keep my distance but.. i dont really have anything against you"
pliant ruin
I think he might be a little upset and maybe slightly distrusting of us but to jump to the conclusion that we're evil just because of that seems like a jump
pliant ruin
he probably at best would just be "im gonna keep my distance but.. i dont really...
ok actually
this makes sense
i can see this
graceful otter
"paragon of balance" but has a personal vendetta against the players after u start killing his little roombas
fair token
Yeah i never said
i think Barelor would be besties with us
and since this spawned form me saying it would make a cool addon to fight him
a good angle would probably be "seeing your temperment through battle"
so a bit like calamitas
solar wharf
i think the vouching from trusted sources such as amidias + the fact that we saved him for basically free would ease the distrust but i dont think he would be an outright ally
fair token
but less jaded
solar wharf
a good angle would probably be "seeing your temperment through battle"
that would be cool
pliant ruin
i think the vouching from trusted sources such as amidias + the fact that we sav...
assuming we save braelor before fighting signus maybe he could actually grow to accept us fully after we kill signus since statis dosen't seem to be a Big Fan of him
just a idea tho
solar wharf
this is all assuming braelor still likes statis tbh
we dont know if statis betrayed him or not
sinful adder
I think Braelor will just be completely fine with us
pliant ruin
statis tried to get both him and braelor out of the distortion
signus went ''well achksually"
only takes statis
sinful adder
Statis might be wary, but I don't think he'd definitely be enemies
fair token
my other idea for an addon (and the one id more likely make if i ever got into making addons) is one of Yharim's generals
I've always wanted to fight someone from his army
pliant ruin
it'd be cool if braelor misunderstood statis and thought he betrayed him
but then
they recoinciliate and he understands what actually happened
it'd be a cool little gay character arc
sinful adder
I think Braelor is too nice for that
pliant ruin
also we beat up signus
pliant ruin
I think Braelor is too nice for that
we rly dont know anything about either of their personalities
other than
they're good guys and almost killed yharim. also they gay
that's kind of it
fair token
Honestly given his design
it would be a great subversion
if hes the more serious of the pair
instead of being super nice
pliant ruin
i see him being a lawful good type guy
maybe he can be both honestly
he's very kind and benevolent but is also the more cool headed and responsible of the two
solar wharf
my other idea for an addon (and the one id more likely make if i ever got into m...
i really hope someone makes one addon that adds all missed out fights, such as silva, yharims army, maybe even fovos if u really want that
pliant ruin
and is the first one to start going 🤨 when something's up
solar wharf
after calamity finishes i mean
fair token
Barelor is probably a nice guy but cares a little too much about preaching about Silva to you
pliant ruin
lmao
fair token
i really hope someone makes one addon that adds all missed out fights, such as s...
prime fovos is my third idea yeah
pliant ruin
calamity addon
solar wharf
that would be so peak when the mod finishes
pliant ruin
lets you fight all of the dragons mentioned in the lore....
solar wharf
not rn as we dont know much
pliant ruin
honestly
a addon that just lets you fight
all of the dead characters that were seemingly powerful
would be so cool
solar wharf
ikr
pliant ruin
like that one hollow knighht mod
fair token
also, I dont see Silva as a combtant
pliant ruin
that lets you fight the great knights and tiso
pliant ruin
it'd probably start off with like
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dragon of gluttony, then maybe a duo fight with both tyrian and otonilou, then the dragon of flame or vetrasyl, and it'd finally end with zeratros and then prime fovos
fair token
And it’s a boss rush of like 40 dragons
Betsy and Duke AI base putting in work
graceful otter
And it’s a boss rush of like 40 dragons
eternal ordeal but its with dragons
pliant ruin
a duo fight with tyrian as the actual fighter and otonilou as a sort of mage/support would be so cool actually
fair token
but yeah if i ever made an addon the first one i would do is the Yharim General idea
Its the most glaring ommision in the mod to me
pliant ruin
it could work as like
spring helm
Imagine being a giant cosmic squid wanting to take a visit on the blue and green planet and then getting jumped by a thousand dragons
pliant ruin
it could work as like
a test of your strenght right at the end of prehardmode maybe
but ofc
graceful otter
i wont share any more details tho
solar wharf
dragon of gluttony, then maybe a duo fight with both tyrian and otonilou, then t...
maybe it could take place where the terrarain is actually born in the draconic era and is now revolting against the tyrant dragons
fovos being a superboass
superboss*
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spiritual guidance type thing
fair token
thats just another mod
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like u go to sleep
solar wharf
thats just another mod
ye
fair token
Calamity Origins type beat
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and then you're dreaming but it's not actually dreaming and your conscious is actually fighting otonilou and tyrian in some wacky spirit realm as they try to decide if ur actually good enough to continue ur journey and beat yharim
would be cool if after you beat them and are leaving back to the waking world one of them says like
fair token
ill be real for a second
pliant ruin
'say hi to amidias for me'
fair token
if Xeroc ever gets added
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and then you get new amidias dialogue lol
fair token
I hope that the fight ends at like 90%, and it just takes a long time to get there
and his ai changes like
every 1%
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LMAO
THTA WOULD BE SO COOL
it would really make it clear you are NOT on bro's level
tho it might be rly misguiding
so maybe instead
it's just like
100-0% type beat but when you get to 1% he actually goes ''damn! anyways that wasn't actually my real healthbar but ur pretty strong have these cool items" and then their healthbar would be at like 99%
i doubt it cuz it seems like xeroc is not meant to be that strong
fair token
I feel like on a superboss
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but it'd be hilarious and cool
fair token
you can get away with a cute gimmick
with the hp bar
if the hp bar was more complex
yoiu could probably make it visually clear
that you onyl have to do 10% of damage
but its really simple
graceful otter
instead i wanna make a fangame
actually i would share one thing
id like its main theme to be about letting go of the past
solar wharf
i doubt it cuz it seems like xeroc is not meant to be *that* strong
that would imply noxus is like
a none issue to xeroc
which is weird to think about
pliant ruin
yeah
solar wharf
i feel like noxus wouldnt beat xeroc but do give him an issue
pliant ruin
i doubt it'd actually happen
but it'd be funny
wouldn't fit too well with the lore we have
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getting him to like
50%
yeah
maybe when you get thm to 50%
they start preparing a seemingly unavoidable attack that would probably kill you
like
a huge light supernova type deal
but then they go
''...actually i think that's probably enough already."
fair token
I dont really know why Calamity took out the instances where it fucked with your expecatations via the hp bar
pliant ruin
probably because
fair token
its one of my favorite things in games
fair token
its not though
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a ''tell'' that the healthbar isn't really meant to be trusted in some way
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its not though
if a player sees they're
barely doing damage to a boss
and they're still at like
98%
fair token
Yharon, Dragon of Rebirth having a second phase where heals back to full
pliant ruin
they're gonna assume the boss is insanely strong and nigh unbeatable
fair token
is not confusing
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and probably get really frustrated
fair token
I get you ont he Xeroc thing
pliant ruin
Yharon, Dragon of Rebirth having a second phase where heals back to full
well i wasn't talking about that specifically
i didn't even know about that lol
fair token
but im more so talking about stuff like Yharon
yeah Yharon used to heal back to full
to start pahse 2
the healing phases ended when the lyrics started in roar
iirc
pliant ruin
yeah that seems cool i cant see any immediate issues withit
fair token
back in the day when he didnt have Rbeirth in his name
i could see the reasoning
but now its like
"hes the dragon of rebirth this shouldnt be confusing to you"
isnt unreasonable to say
espically if you give it some flair
and make it obvious that what is happenign is that hes dying and coming back
really hope that does get made more obvious
in the eventual resprite
I feel like a lt of people proabbyl dont realize thats what the phase transition is
real silo
If it takes yharon ten years to rebirth then I don't see how he'd be able to rebirth in the middle of the fight
solar wharf
ig it doesnt make sense in the since that rebirth cant be done immedaitly
so it confuses players
we'd probably get people here
real silo
Yeah
real silo
yeah
If he can revive that fast what's stopping him from reviving after the second phase for a phase 3
graceful otter
they could always make the infight rebrith have some sort of caveat
graceful otter
it isnt
fair token
dang
they should make it phase 2 exclsuive
that would be a cool way to explain it
"yeah yharon can keep himself alive with his power but he will still die if he keeps doing it"
real silo
Necro armor no way
solar wharf
and then healing back up
doesnt matter still, people would still confuse that, i dont think u need the healthbar, u could just do a cool scene where he powers up
maybe even lyrics on the screen
"THE ENEMT ASCENDED BEYOND UR CONTROL"
fair token
no thanks there
fair token
thats too much and takes you out of it
glacial rampart
"THE ENEMT ASCENDED BEYOND UR CONTROL"
no thanks!
never put lyrics on screen in game
never ever
graceful otter
highly unlikely that calamity will have cutscenes midfight
solar wharf
thats too much and takes you out of it
eh, i just dont really see the point of the healthbar when all it causes is confusion on yharon
real silo
Just change the phase two text message to "the enemy is ascending beyond your control...."
solar wharf
it could work with another boss
graceful otter
iirc fab isnt a huge fan of it considering terraria
fair token
highly unlikely that calamity will have cutscenes midfight
Really dumb but it wouldnt surprise me
graceful otter
terraria wasnt built for cutscenes, especially during midfight
fair token
I agree, i just want like
a bit more cinematic effects that arent just death and spawn animations
real silo
In infernum's case I just use the custcene time to get in a better position
fair token
not even a cutscene where camera control is taken away
just make some of the animations and phase transitons
have more flourish
fair token
they have a phase transition?
real silo
Yes
fair token
had no idea
real silo
They eject their eye lenses
solar wharf
can you really make yharons transition short tho? that just feels wrong
no longer feels like a power boost
real silo
True
fair token
can you really make yharons transition short tho? that just feels wrong
it doesnt need to be short
you cna make it more impactful and obvious whats happenign
real silo
Well exo twins is only a quarter of the exo mechs fight so
solar wharf
animating the sprite you mean?
fair token
yeah
solar wharf
that could work yea
fair token
i mean litereally, even just doing what Infernum does but not yanking camera control away
solar wharf
desert scourge became so much cooler even tho nothing actually was added
fair token
would work
real silo
I'd love some radiance style flashbangs
fair token
Infernum didnt need to yank control of camera way for its yharon phase transition animation
it does
solar wharf
doesnt infernum do that with a lot of transitions
solar wharf
i also love death animations, yharon has one but its so boring
real silo
I mean it's really fucking easy to miss those transitions without the camera panning
fair token
Im pretty sure that cal dev team hates desperation attacks (im not a huge fan either) but yharon is defintely a boss that needs one i think
just make it really easy to dodge like infernum's
solar wharf
yharons entire fight is based off of desperation so it would make sense ye
fair token
Yharon';s last like
20% or whatever in infernum
where he just perma dashes and then his desperation
is so perfect
it feels so inline with what he is
real silo
erm his actual desperation is the fireball spam
real silo
And you completely miss seeing him actually die
fair token
a better version might be
the fire rings
have him spawn fire rings as he dies
since you can dodge those close
real silo
Give him mithrix pizzas
real silo
It's the walls attack
real silo
Seth from split has that attack and it's fun as hell
fair token
yharon as he dioes like moves towards you but a lot slower and maybe like
throws out singular firfeballs
real silo
Seth from split has that attack and it's fun as hell
Except for the fact that it instakills you
fair token
lol
real silo
yharon as he dioes like moves towards you but a lot slower and maybe like
Make him cough out fireballs like infernum ascourge
fair token
doesnt he do fire breath when he spawns the falling projectiles
pliant ruin
i think yharon should get eaten by a apple
real silo
That's infernum
pliant ruin
and then the apple should die due to draconic allergies because i hate apples
fair token
actually i literally just thought of a perfect idea
solar wharf
and then the apple should die due to draconic allergies because i hate apples
fair enough
fair token
yharon's death animation is extended and he moves towards you at a pretty low speed
throwing out fireballs
but never directly at you
(hes missing)
solar wharf
you could also make it so, if u do run at them and make them hit u
let it deal actually 0 damahe
just a pop uo
"0"
fair token
they just fizzle out
lmao
Yharon's death is probably like the second most important thing thats going to happen in cal, it deserves a lot of flair
real silo
Have him fall to the floor and pant until you kill him
fair token
i really really hope they do something about scal
she has a proper death phase
and it was ruined when she got the resprite
real silo
I just want to listen to acceptance
solar wharf
was she having a mental breakdown during our fight
real silo
They should have her closing dialogue happen after she stops attacking instead of while you're busy trying to not die
solar wharf
ye but im asking if thats the case anywah
pliant ruin
I foresee the future
Yharim's death will be like senator armstrong
He'll get killed but then will be like ''You and me... we are the same...." or something and his last thoughts before he dies will be that he convinced you to be the next godseeker
real silo
He's so clueless
sly bloom
He'll get killed but then will be like ''You and me... we are the same...." or s...
I don't need Yharim's help to be a godseeker
spring helm
“At least I leave behind a worthy successor.”
Terrarian who stopped listening 10 minutes ago: “huh?”
wheat walrus
“At least I leave behind a worthy successor.”
Terrarian who stopped listening 1...
whar
sly bloom
Also with how much inspiration Calamity has taken from Metal Gear Rising, I wouldn't be surprised at all
And it would be peak
glacial rampart
Dray
calm patio
Also with how much inspiration Calamity has taken from Metal Gear Rising, I woul...
No.
neat tinsel
did we ever finish the ai doctor mario but with cal characters thing?
calm patio
found the person who only plays mgrr and not metal gear solid
neat tinsel
<:point:896878260506468372> found the person who only plays mgrr and not metal g...
you cant even say my name
sly bloom
real silo
important question: how do I pronounce ae in Draedon. Like Draidon or Dra[æ]don?
I pronounce it as dr-a(like father)-e(like egg)-don
vocal snow
me too, but it seems that opinions on that matter do differ
real silo
just don't pronounce it like drodayn or something ridiculous
trim edge
it's pronounced doctor aedon
mighty zenith
please, dr. aedon was my father
scenic olive
Drade on
real silo
drade in china
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dragon
cloud ibex
He'll get killed but then will be like ''You and me... we are the same...." or s...
"You and me... we are the same..."
"dude what the actual fuck are you talking about"
"i read about 'gaslighting' online the other day, figured it would be worth a try"
buoyant inlet
and then he fucking combusts
pliant ruin
"You and me... we are the same..."
"dude what the actual fuck are you talking ab...
and then he just dies
cloud ibex
perfect
pliant ruin
btw not to indulge in my biggest autism rn but i was thinking about how the inquisitors in limbus company retroactively made me realize how horrible the crusades probably really looked
innocents being murdered in gruesome ways, all while their murderers act in a way that makes it clear they view their victims as less than human, the cries of those suffering in their hands is ignored and they keep up a attitude and demeanor that clearly indicates to you how they truly believe themselves to be on the right, despite the fact they're doing things that would horrify any sane person, by killing, mauling and torturing people who a few days ago where simply living their lives
solar wharf
innocents being murdered in gruesome ways, all while their murderers act in a wa...
ye genocide tend to be really fucked
its just the fact that no one really saw a cutscene or anything of yharim's army
doing anything
so when u say
"he killed"
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honestly it's the type of thing where you know it's horrible but like
you don't realize how horrible it is till you see it
solar wharf
people just think it isnt as bad
due to how normalized killing is
in entertainment media
pliant ruin
playing limbus company and having basically a entire story arc that revolves around a fanatic group that is commiting genocide on innocents because they see them as ''heretics'' for no good reason and seeing how absolutely horrifying it is to the point the game made me actually hate the mfs who were doing it
it really puts into perspective how scary this shit is
it's really hard for me to actively hate a fictional character 😭
solar wharf
i hate fictional characters that are bad for the sake of being bad
i despise that shitty type of writing if its done bad
pliant ruin
i'll correct, myself, actually
when i hate a character its usually cuz i think they're shittily written
it's really rare for me to hate a character
who i acnowledge is not bad from a writing perspective and is actually well written
pliant ruin
play limbus company btw genuinely best narrative i've seen on like anything since i wached madoka magica. or not it's your call i just think it's a really cool game
solar wharf
i think that applies in general? or maybe im just hanging out with people who believe that too
i havent seen someone hate on a well written character
pliant ruin
i havent seen someone hate on a well written character
like, when i hate on a shittily written character is cuz. yk. theyre shittly written.
solar wharf
~~play limbus company btw genuinely best narrative i've seen on like anything si...
i have 0 idea what limbus company is
pliant ruin
but when i hate a character i acnowledge is well written
solar wharf
i might check it out
pliant ruin
it's because that motherfucker is so vile and hateable that even though they're just pixels on a screen they genuinely manage to make me angry to the point i see them and go KILL THAT GUY
south relic
I never thought I would hear the name LimbusCompany here.
I'm just a little glad to hear it.
solar wharf
she talks about it multiple times, i just never bothered to search up what it is
pliant ruin
i have 0 idea what limbus company is
It's a free strategy rpg that's immediately climbed to the spot of my favorite game ever
by the way i have played... terraria, ultrakill, don't starve, a hat in time, risk of rain...
you know just. alot of well acclaimed indie games.
so like. its good. really good.
1 bad thing is the tutorial kind of sux so i recommend looking up a youtube guide if u actually get into it
solar wharf
will see, i have nothing to play after i finish my finals
so i would probably check it out after that
elder trench
somebody please make a whole lore video
jaunty wraith
Honestly probably best to wait for full lore
There's still lots to add, mainly vanilla bestiary entries
solar wharf
ye, lore videos would bound to be outdated
buoyant inlet
well, not really outdated, more so incomplete
random mulch
what if instead of just advanced armor yharim went full mech suit
hoary berry
technological terror yharim
random mulch
if i had to choose i'd imagine yharim's design to be more of a very mechanical exoskeleton with knight-looking auric plating on top
spring helm
give us concept art orios
real silo
Every artist must make their own yharsona
random mulch
most "complete" one i've made
though i'll probably try and redo it from the ground up when i have the time, it's a bit of a clusterfuck
real silo
thumby
spring helm
that looks sick
if i had to demand something from the devs, it would be to add another upgrade to the Ark of the Cosmos post-yharim
random mulch
als one thing i noticed about the lilac yharim
pliant ruin
if i had to demand something from the devs, it would be to add another upgrade t...
ark of the
uhm
universe??
pliant ruin
ark of reality
random mulch
his torso is not actually that thick, it's just a tangent line with the arm that can make it look weird
pliant ruin
dragons maybe could work
but it dosen't feel as grand
even if it thematically fits
spring helm
his torso is not actually *that* thick, it's just a tangent line with the arm th...
the illusion of thickness 😔
random mulch
the reference image should get redrawn cause it has some issues that are not related to the design itself that kinda drags it down
spring helm
but it dosen't feel as grand
Ark of the Aerie?
random mulch
(though it's not like the previous designs were perfect either)
mighty zenith
talon feet
random mulch
you could fit a fucking paperclip around his waist
spring helm
talon feet
wasn't that because the artist couldn't draw his feet correctly or something
random mulch
i think i narrowed down one of my larger complaints of the lilac yharim to his armor looking too much like a bunch of auric pieces cobbled together rather than a single coherent piece of armor
mighty zenith
wasn't that because the artist couldn't draw his feet correctly or something
i dont know but its still funny to think about
also the
really small head
spring helm
i think i narrowed down one of my larger complaints of the lilac yharim to his a...
the old one or new one
random mulch
the this
mighty zenith
yea i can def see that
random mulch
also idk how to describe it but his lower body looks too... "tactical"
spring helm
on one hand, yeah it's kinda wierd to see so many gaps in the auric plating
on the other hand, it would be quite boring if his armour was just 90% the same yellow colour
i don't really know a good comprimise for that
mighty zenith
there's really two ways you can go
way more yellow with a ton of lines and overcomplications
and less yellow with a more diverse look that can be too disconnected from itself
random mulch
on one hand, yeah it's kinda wierd to see so many gaps in the auric plating
on t...
probably just reducing the gaps in the auric itself while keeping space for other colors
vital areas like the head, upper torso, forearms and legs being protected with less or no auric in other places
spring helm
now that it's known that yharim's got exo tech in his armour, i'd like to see rgb lights outlining some of his armour like other exo tech
plucky spruce
now that it's known that yharim's got exo tech in his armour, i'd like to see rg...
ahem
random mulch
exo tech's whole aesthetic is rainbow on gray
hoary berry
now that it's known that yharim's got exo tech in his armour, i'd like to see rg...
gamer yharmour
plucky spruce
i know the perfect video to find that image
random mulch
idk if that would mesh well with yellow, red and blue
spring helm
it could work on his abdominal area rn
since that's mostly gray
though that would still be stretching it
random mulch
it'd look really out of place tbh
plucky spruce
think twice before interfering with my plans
spring helm
holy shit
hoary berry
the only way i can imagine the rainbow of exotech fitting in is maybe a glow emanating from the gaps in between the shoulder plates during certain attacks
wheat walrus
think twice before interfering with my plans
the fact that this art ended up there is crazy
spring helm
trans ally omni
plucky spruce
the fact that this art ended up there is crazy
it's so dumb but cool at the same time
random mulch
i've always loved how this specific piece of yhar (by asturisk) made him look
wheat walrus
trans ally omni
indeed
hoary berry
i've always loved how this specific piece of yhar (by asturisk) made him look
that's fire
spring helm
i've always loved how this specific piece of yhar (by asturisk) made him look
staring menacingly
hoary berry
looks genuinely scary
i need to find that animation of perma bringing scal to yharim
random mulch
with the auric pieces not looking mechanical in the slightest, i think it's a really nice aesthetic
and would also seperate his auric with ours in that regard
plucky spruce
i've always loved how this specific piece of yhar (by asturisk) made him look
this one also shows up in the yharim vs herobrine edit
random mulch
i'll probably draw inspiration from it for my own but i kinda want to take it in my own direction as well
spring helm
maybe yharim will have a second phase where the auric plating comes off and we see exo armour
plucky spruce
but
enhancing auric armor with exo tech is not just wearing exo tech under the auric armor
i think
spring helm
true
plucky spruce
that'd be kinda dumb 
random mulch
the this
another one with this is that he just looks really stocky
his torso is just kinda short
plucky spruce
another one with this is that he just looks *really* stocky
meh, he's just on a weird angle
hoary berry
his right forearm also looks really short, though that might be the angle
the elbow just seems to be gone, like the fore and upper arm have merged slightly
plucky spruce
they took that picture without him knowing
random mulch
meh, he's just on a weird angle
which is why i hope to see a redraw of this concept art
the design is solid but it has a bunch of issues that arent related to the design itself
one thing i might try to do for yhar is seperating his auric pieces as little as possible
if pieces can be combined into a single chunk, they will be
hoary berry
i think my only actual gripe with that design is that it looks almost strapped together
random mulch
ikr
pliant ruin
among
random mulch
previous designs felt more like he had to pull off some fallout power armor stuff and climb inside
also why does yharims armor need abs
mighty zenith
also *why does yharims armor need **abs***
why not
random mulch
cause they look kinda ridiculous tbh
halcyon dust
The armor didn’t have abs originally it just chiseled in like a memory foam mattress
random mulch
helmet maybe has a little bit too much horns but i like yharim having horns instead of the previous fin things
also electricity crackling around him is dope as hell
halcyon dust
Similar visual of an auric bar but without having not eaten any souls
Just that powerful
random mulch
kinda getting tired of listening to rise of the jungle tyrant we need a new yharim theme
real silo
i've always loved how this specific piece of yhar (by asturisk) made him look
This is fuckin sick
Kamen rider villain ass armor
random mulch
i think the biggest thing that was lost in translation to the new design is yharim looking "royal"
he looks combat ready, sure, but he doesnt look much like a ruler
hoary berry
the old one looks more imposing i think
which translates to feeling a little more like a ruler?
not very royal in the traditional sense though
random mulch
intimidation puts people in line ig
hoary berry
not very royal in the traditional sense though
more like a war general taking charge is how the old design seems to me
which is fire in its own right
also i can't decide whether or not to keep victini off-centre
it makes it look like they're actually flying into frame, but also looks a little odd regardless
plucky spruce
could yharim get sent back in time by a weeping angel?
they kinda need to touch the person to send them back in time and y'know, eat their living energy or some shit i forgot the exact term
random mulch
so yeah hope for yhar redraw to see the design without all the non-design issues
fair token
what do you mean by that
random mulch
there are some issues with the concept art that have nothing to do with the design itself but drag it down
fair token
like what
random mulch
tangent line that makes yharim look thicker than he acctually is
random mulch
his torso is not actually *that* thick, it's just a tangent line with the arm th...
.
fair token
I mean hes pretty thick