#lore-discussion

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graceful otter
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no i mean

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bohldohr entry mentions a lihzahrd dynasty

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dont ask why i know this off the top of my head

civic salmon
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(although I gotta say, the Terraria devs conflating the modern Jewish myth of the Golem with the sun aesthetics of the Aztecs and the Amazon rainforest which is nowhere near the Aztecs is... certainly a look)

stark basalt
frozen crag
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prolly more than 3 days

pliant ruin
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AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

earnest flare
cloud ibex
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ow my ears

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you don't need to scream like that i have headphones on

pliant ruin
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cloud ibex
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thank you that's much better

buoyant inlet
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That scared me

halcyon dust
bright zenith
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so who is the archmage

cloud ibex
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ice wizard who formerly worked for yharim but left because of the whole war crimes thing

graceful otter
civic salmon
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I kind of have a headcanon that the Dungeon dates back to before the Deific Era

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We know that the Ceaseless Void is fuckin old

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And the Dungeon is just too big and well-fortified to have been built by a fringe cult during such chaotic eras as the Deific and the Crusade

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Yharim used it as a dungeon, and the Dragon Cult used it as a base/archive, but my headcanon is that it was originally a fortress used by people who served the dragons but weren't high ranked enough to live on the Aerie with them

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The Dragon Cult probably had its roots in people who actually served the Dragons, and that's why/how they're the ones keeping the ritual sealing Moon Lord maintained

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So I think it just... never changed hands from one group to another, it's just that the people who lived there changed their goals

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Their whole hierarchy was built around serving dragons, so when the dragons all died out, their goal became... resurrecting a dragon, to continue serving

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Of course, maybe the original denizens were willing & enthusiastic about serving the dragons, but it's equally possible that they were manipulated, or pressed into servitude, or infantilized/condescended to

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Well, it might have originally originally been built as a place to keep the Ceaseless Void, since the dragons probably didn't want that shit right in the middle of their home base. So they got some useful humans to keep it locked up instead. But once they realized how useful it was to have humans on the Surface enacting their will, the project kind of expanded. That's my thoughts, anyway

random mulch
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idk how crack of a crackpot theory this is but i think we're gonna fight xeroc before noxus

civic salmon
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but that could be wrong 🤷

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The FAQ lore document lists Noxus as having more destructive power but Xeroc having more fighting prowess

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So it could really go either way

random mulch
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just because xeroc is better in a 1 on 1 doesnt mean they'll go full strength on us

civic salmon
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I think that building up to Xeroc being such a massive figure and fearsome boss, only for him to not go full strength on us, would be pretty disappointing

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Especially since, even though they're really not the same thing at all, Calamity's implementation of Xeroc will be inevitably compared to Nameless Deity from Wrath of the Gods, even though, as noted, they're not the same thing- but people are going to compare them anyway

scenic olive
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goes full strength and immediately kills us

random mulch
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feel like xeroc isnt the type to want to straight up kill us

civic salmon
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I can see him holding back for the start of the fight, but if we're going for the kill we may force him to bring his full power to bear

scenic olive
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Maybe

random mulch
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also, it's already confirmed that we're not gonna kill xeroc
So it'd be kinda anticlimactic if the final boss just kind... left

scenic olive
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maybe if we somehow can use Noxus as a stepping stone

civic salmon
scenic olive
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Its not even gonna be enough

random mulch
scenic olive
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Maybe we need an auric soul of our own

civic salmon
random mulch
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i imagine it more as "xeroc wants to find the person capable of killing the potential world ender"

scenic olive
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Is Yharon the last Auric Dragon

random mulch
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yeah

civic salmon
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Kind of a bummer though, Calamity is one non-stop "There's no way you can kill that thing- oh, nope, you just killed it, nevermind" so I don't see why the line should be drawn at Xeroc

scenic olive
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okay but what if there was another Auric Soul

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hypothetically

random mulch
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so primordial light comes from the sun, right?

random mulch
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what if the distortion has no source of primordial light

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xeroc would be practically powerless there

civic salmon
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So killing Xeroc would be a bad idea

median helm
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It would showcase Xeroc's immense power if you WEREN'T able to kill him after steam rolling through literally everything else

civic salmon
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And hey, that would also make sense why he wouldn't be able to fight Noxus himself

random mulch
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xeroc would probably also not have the fight come to terraria itself

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a fight between the 2 strongest beings would probably be able to end the world by itself

civic salmon
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So even until the very end of the game against the optional Superbosses, you're still, inescapably, someone else's errand boy

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Actually a pretty fitting conclusion

scenic olive
civic salmon
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Considering how much of the lore is just "this is the consequences of seeking power"

random mulch
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xeroc would also kinda have his own story concluded for the time being, as in some way he was also able to protect the world

civic salmon
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The very final boss still being you doing something at someone else's behest would nail in the "if you're seeking power for power's sake, you will inevitably end up being a tool for whoever still manages to be more powerful than you"

random mulch
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him wanting to protect the world would also kinda explain why he seemingly vanished, he had something more important to do than the other gods

median helm
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Peak fiction

scenic olive
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but

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that would leave Terraria unprotected from another Fovos invasion

daring crater
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fovos is moon lord and you killed him

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noxus, however

scenic olive
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If he were to fight Noxus he might get exhausted after which leave Terraria in dangerous state

random mulch
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also the battle itself would probably also be pretty destructive on its own

scenic olive
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yeah

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Noxus has the most destructive prowess compared to Xeroc

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But in a battle Xeroc would win since hes better at using his powers

random mulch
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cerox ccause why not

solar wharf
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just not as destructive

spring helm
random mulch
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xeroc is HIM (they), they dont need to brush their teef

cloud ibex
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honestly i don't really vision xeroc with a mouth

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i'd imagine more like

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their head is replaced with some floating sigil or shape made out of primordial light

pliant ruin
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sisyp

graceful otter
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slime god is an idiot

random mulch
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there's also this one i made

pliant ruin
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hey dont call them that

pliant ruin
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i love thsi one

graceful otter
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they couldve made a human like body for themself

random mulch
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the flesh is weak

pliant ruin
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the other one is also cool but it dosen't fit the idea of God of Light as well i feel

random mulch
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probably the only thing i'd need to change is the face probably

cloud ibex
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but sisyphus still has the outline of a face

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i was thinking more like a 2d shape

graceful otter
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what the fuck is a sisyphus

pliant ruin
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leave them alone

brisk frigate
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ball > human

graceful otter
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ball is stupid because who wanna worship a ball

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ud get more people on ur side if u were more human like

cloud ibex
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idk about you but i'd be down to worship a large, featureless metallic sphere

pliant ruin
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what if they wanted to be a ball

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leave them ALONE

graceful otter
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damn

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good point

tall delta
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guys

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i have a plan

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a evil plan

graceful otter
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say it then

solar wharf
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it owuldnt be very evil

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if they told u

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no?

tall delta
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what If we try to guess how god xeroc looks by saying random things

solar wharf
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fish was the first thought that came to my head

tall delta
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and then we actually describe exactly how he looks

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and then a dev will suspect you

solar wharf
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the cheese brainrot is taking over

random mulch
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gonna make an alt version with the sigil eye face

solar wharf
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cooking

tall delta
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and then will ask how you know how god xeroc looks

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and BAM

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you know How god xeroc looks like

solar wharf
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DAMN

tall delta
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i dont think Its too hard to describe how her could look

random mulch
tall delta
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the ultimate evil plan....

solar wharf
random mulch
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is sigil face or teeth face preferred

solar wharf
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i personally prefer the sigil but i dont mind the teeth face

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for me the sigil makes more sense tho

tall delta
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ok I'll start

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he has hair

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four arms

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the pl sygil behind gim

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and wings

random mulch
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sounds like my xeroc except a new sigil and not bald

solar wharf
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um ackhsully

tall delta
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also he somewhat resemble his pre ascension form

solar wharf
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urs dont have arms

random mulch
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yes they do, they're hoving right besides them

tall delta
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also he still has the lance but now upgraded

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and also a lantern

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he still has a mask but It also changed

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he wears auric(yes i believe gods who share the same domain of the dragon can use auric)

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actually romove the part where i say he has four arms

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he has some dragon language word things floating around him

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or just written in his clothes

random mulch
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gonna have to continue tomorrow but progress on the xeroc so far

cloud ibex
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the xooc

random mulch
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what would xeroc's theme even be like

graceful otter
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probably smthn like br

fading siren
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I like twisted garden’s take

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But i think it’d be less noisy and amen breaky and more atmospheric

fading siren
graceful otter
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boss rush

random mulch
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bit of a touch up on wings

fading siren
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Oh

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Ya i’m ngl i don’t like the direction charlie went with tier 4

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banger tho

random mulch
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i feel like it 100% fits the increasing amount of adrenaline in your system

fading siren
random mulch
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if xeroc is added, i hope they make the entire boss rush look like a joke

lean crag
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that is not very hard to do

random mulch
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i want xeroc to beat my brain into puty and liquify my bone marrow

fading siren
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the first 3 fit better

hushed geyser
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Reduce flight for xeroc no rod or roh hit cap

fading siren
random mulch
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imagine if xeroc could make PL replicas of themselves for certain attacks

hushed geyser
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Blud thinks he's kizaru

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The calamity piece might be real

random mulch
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you have alerted the xeroc horde

fading siren
fading siren
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What’s PL

graceful otter
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considering thats how boss rush was done pretty much

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primordial light

fading siren
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true

random mulch
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-HsjDfORCQ4
personally i like this take on a xeroc theme

early 1k sub special i suppose. you requested, i delivered (somewhat)
mixing is.. something. this didnt really turn out the way i wanted

lack of intensity is done on purpose - i'd imagine the xeroc fight as a slower paced one

https://psykomatic.bandcamp.com/

https://discord.gg/eUUcBZ7rzh

#terraria #calamity

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hushed geyser
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Does it have the bells

random mulch
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of course it got da bells

graceful otter
fading siren
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No bells = no calamity

hushed geyser
fading siren
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Nuh uh

fading siren
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it would be cool for a desperation phase or something

random mulch
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post-ascension xeroc concept art of course does exist but it's not like we're gonna see it any time soon, so might as well have some fun in the mean time

fading siren
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pre ascension goes hard enough

random mulch
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screw fighting ND or whatever, i wanna toss hands with pre-ascension xeroc

fading siren
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bro looked like he would be ascending any time soon anyway

hushed geyser
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Incense blade

random mulch
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he can hit you really really hard with that incense burner by swinging it like a madman

fading siren
hushed geyser
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His blade excreets it

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Wtf

random mulch
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he's attuned to the king of the dragons, he can do what he wants and his blade can excrete whatever

hushed geyser
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Attune deez

fading siren
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🤯

random mulch
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the incense is already filling your house

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run

brisk frigate
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xeroc ascending higher then a kite

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makes absolute sense

hushed geyser
crimson finch
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I want to eat the incense he burns

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Yummy

hushed geyser
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It's a gas

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Inhale it

crimson finch
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I’m talking about it BEFORE it gets burnt

humble fog
brisk frigate
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yes

humble fog
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Oh oki

scenic olive
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High on Auric Souls

untold bluff
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Xeroc could drink enough alcohol to kill 5 horses

hushed geyser
pseudo temple
hushed geyser
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Placidusax from elden ring

pliant ruin
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ill be honest placidusax is not that crazy of a design

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elden ring is cool and all but hes just a standard western dragon with two heads

hushed geyser
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He all

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Wrapped up

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Old asf

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Dragon design don't gotta be crazy

pliant ruin
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Yeah he gets the job done but idk i dont get the hype

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hes just a normal dragon

hushed geyser
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Yeah cus he's a

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Dragon

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Ancient technically

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He don't gotta be crazy

pliant ruin
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if zeratros looked like him it would be really lame i think

hushed geyser
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They're dragons it's either over the top, not a dragon, or basic dragon design

pliant ruin
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yharon is right there

hushed geyser
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(Basically) Not a dragon

pliant ruin
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how

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hes literally a dragon

hushed geyser
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Cuh hea literally a phoenix

pliant ruin
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n

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no

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hving

hushed geyser
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If I showed anyone who don't play calamity

pliant ruin
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having feathers dosent make it a phoenix

hushed geyser
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They would say he a phoenix

pliant ruin
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ig some people would??? but in general i doubt it

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cuz a phoenix is a bird.

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yharon is. not a bird.

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he has feathers

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thats kind of it

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anyways dragonslayer codex has the best dragon designs thanks for coming to my TED talk

hushed geyser
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Imma test my theory on a private server rq

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I'm cooking

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My friends dumbasses

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Nvm

pliant ruin
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they said it was a dragon didn't they

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:p

hushed geyser
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No

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My bf said red macaw and dragon (so exactly what he is)

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Bewildered by this shit tho

stark basalt
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Crazy

hushed geyser
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Explaining how yharon is a dragon with the title of phoenix to my friends

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"Definetly a beybeast"

civic salmon
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Is the Sunken Sea/The Ilmeran Sea a freshwater sea or a saltwater sea?

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Need to know this for important reasons

warped bloom
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Prob saltwater

civic salmon
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Okay Amidias sells an Urchin Flail and apparently urchins only live in saltwater

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So I'm running with saltwater

spring helm
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well it is a sea

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if it was freshwater they'd call it a lake

civic salmon
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brackish inland seas exist

pliant ruin
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it's probably brackish if i had to guess

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unless it was completely isolated from any other inland sources of water there's no way some freshwater didn't get in, but i'd imagine to to be primarily saltwater

scenic olive
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what do you think the shimmer lore is

stark basalt
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How many legs does Aureus have?

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Is it 4 or 6?

stark basalt
scenic olive
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but why

stark basalt
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Shiny, kinda reminds me of ichor but more dreamy, it turns shit all spacy in the Aether biome

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But still

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Aureus leg how many?

graceful otter
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somehow

stark basalt
civic salmon
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or maybe it's the more pleasant 'shadow' of the distortion

hushed geyser
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Magic liquid

supple thunder
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we need a shimmer boss that gives us the lore

supple thunder
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like what we see is the front half of it

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and the back has another 4 legs

stark basalt
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Thank fuck, I really want it to be anything but 4

supple thunder
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that would be very weird with the angle we have of it rn

pliant ruin
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shimmer is so weird

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idk if the devs will rly touch it but maybe???

buoyant inlet
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I like to believe that shimmer is mana juice that got leaked into a convenient lake-shaped cave

fierce pagoda
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Would be funny if the shimmers lore was just "its a mysterious liquid that no one knows the origins of" and thats just it

spring helm
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cosmic and all that

fierce pagoda
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Maybe it could be distiortion related

spring helm
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the more you use the shimmer, the more powerful you make noxus

pliant ruin
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shimmer is actually uhhhhh

spring helm
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take your time 🧀

pliant ruin
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ITS AMONG

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us. sus

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impostor

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crewmate sus impost among

crimson finch
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Who up here Shimmering their Veil rn

pliant ruin
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not me! im actually KILLING THE PRESIDENT

crimson finch
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XD 👍

civic salmon
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thank you for your hard work

pliant ruin
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that gif reminds me

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i have yet to play literally any metal gear game

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i want to, but i'm broke

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this is o sad

civic salmon
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emulator

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I played mgs1 on an emulator and mgs2 on a hacked ps vita

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very easy to accomplish

crimson finch
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Calamitas is so cool I wish women were real ☹️

pliant ruin
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my pc can't run playstation emulators

civic salmon
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if your pc cant run a playstation 1 emulator thats not a pc thats a toaster

pliant ruin
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I really have to emphatize that my pc is absolute shit it can run like 3 games

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honestly it's not even

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that it can't run it

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it probably acn

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it'll just be incredibly incovenient

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cuz

civic salmon
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Play the original MGS1, not the Twin Snakes remake, the remake is almost strictly worse

pliant ruin
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  1. my pc has as much memory as a goldfish
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if i had to install like, anything, i'd have to get rid of atleast most of my installed games

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it'd most definitely not perform well

civic salmon
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and tbh I hate playing old clunky games but MGS1 aged beautifully

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ok well now you know for when you get a better computer

pliant ruin
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i plan on getting one uh. eventually

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hoipefully this year but i might not be able to

civic salmon
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hey wait do you have a switch

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the master collection is on switch now

glacial rampart
pliant ruin
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i don't

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i actually had a switch lite

civic salmon
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damn

pliant ruin
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but i sold it to a friend

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cuz im broke

civic salmon
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praying for your uprise

solar wharf
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im evil

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pray for you downrise

crimson finch
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I’m normal

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Prayed for you’re centerrise

hushed geyser
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I'm extra evil praying for your extradownrise

crimson finch
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I’m purple
Parried for your colorrise

civic salmon
solar wharf
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thats the joke

civic salmon
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ah

supple thunder
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i’m ??? praying for your upfall

tropic oak
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praying for your uprise

civic salmon
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not sure if this typo in the lore document is a purposeful pun or not

real silo
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Maybe the writer is just stupid

spring helm
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that's so rude to octo

neat tinsel
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(full of trash)

civic salmon
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Hey y'all, I actually finally wrote a Calamity fic. It's about 5.7k words and I'd like to run it past a beta reader(s) before posting it publicly. I'm looking for basic stuff like catching typos and feedback on tone, dialogue, comprehensibility, that kind of things, with a couple scenes in particular I'm shaky on. If you'd be down to beta read, lmk and I'll send you the doc link through DMs; if you want to read it but don't feel like being a beta reader, hang tight, I expect to post it in a couple days even if no one betas- I just figured, hey, lore channel, might as well ask to run it past somebody.

unique gorge
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guys question , if i get the new draedon lore right

1-. He hates our naming skills

2-. The distortion and it's inhabitants are just part of noxus itself, and dog has been feeding him dead gods for god knows how long

If i get ir right, could it be the "post game" and xeroc's proposal is about dealing with noxus before he gets enough power and attacks terraria?

clear vessel
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While most of that is true, I don’t think we can quite say the distortion itself is an extension of Noxus

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But if you meant that as shorthand for “everything living in the distortion is under Noxus’ control”, then all of that seems right

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(With the exception of Stormweaver, but I figure you know about that)

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For that last part, that would make quite a bit of sense
It could also have something to do with fighting Xeroc himself, as he seems to imply we reach levels above Yharim, a mortal Xeroc was a bit wary of

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It might be as simple as “you’re quite strong, I want to make sure I’m still stronger before moving to the next subject” or something or other

clear vessel
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Stormweaver is (so far) the only known member of the Distortion not under Noxus’ control
I’ll try to find the thing on that

real silo
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We don't know if dog and signuts is controlled by noxus or not

frozen stag
real silo
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in my heart of hearts signuts is the correct spelling

clear vessel
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We don’t know if they’re controlled per se, but we do know at least that DoG is working for Noxus

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And is pretty determined to hide Noxus’ existence from others

frozen stag
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also the fact that infernum ares was probably one of the planned versions of ares:
(phaseslayer moment)

cloud ibex
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That much should be clear from the fact that you kill him

sinful adder
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My understanding is that the player becomes slightly stronger than Yharim, but nowhere near noxus. I think that the proposal will be something like:
"I can't go into the distortion to kill Noxus alone because there's no primordial light in there, I have to stay here to prevent it from attacking. Instead, I'll send you in there and power you up so that you can defeat Noxus."

unkempt ivy
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pretty sure whoever named the pacific ocean named it for its supposed peacefulness

scenic olive
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stormweaver but he weaves oil instead of storms

cloud ibex
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Freedom Weaver

hardy roost
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God I’m so happy to see Enby rep in calamity, Bandit my beloved :)

(I had no clue the Bandit was non binary until today)

cloud ibex
hardy roost
civic salmon
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Mfer stole my pronouns, can't have shit in a Cruel World

celest kettle
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This is truly the tale of a cruel world

glacial rampart
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yes

pliant ruin
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canonically he/they

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still no lesbian rep, tragic 😔

plucky flicker
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Soon perchance

pliant ruin
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Lore devs will soon canonize (read notes to search for any relevant female calamity characters who aren't calamitas)

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uhhhh

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ANAHITA as a lesbian

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THERE WE GO

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wait but we fucking kill her shit thats not good

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(reads notes again)

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(its only silva and calamitas)

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(fuck)

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i guess silva is still a Possibility ™️ given the pansexual thing was only a dev's headcanon but ehhh

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no lesbian rep on calamity tonight 😔

sleek halo
pliant ruin
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u changed ur pfp wtf

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not snail girl anymo

thick slate
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braelor and statis 💪

sleek halo
sleek halo
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(unless u believe hard enough)

pliant ruin
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if u hit them both with the girlifying beam then they'd be lesbians

sleek halo
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YRUE

sleek halo
thick slate
pliant ruin
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braelor looks like a himbo

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i like him

sleek halo
sleek halo
thick slate
sleek halo
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pretty boy

thick slate
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yess

pliant ruin
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i love characters that are like really athletic/buff but they just have pretty little baby faces

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laios dungeon meshi

thick slate
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then statis is a little dude

pliant ruin
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he's not that buff tbf but he is really athletic and literally the knight of the party so

pliant ruin
sleek halo
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TRUE

thick slate
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fr

sleek halo
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HE DOES

humble fog
jaunty spindle
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u guys reckon yharim would sign everything with a huge Y followed by the rest of his name

real silo
#

His sign would just be a Y and a dragon paw

jaunty spindle
#

huge Y ✅
rest of his name ❌

celest kettle
cloud ibex
#

i feel like yharon would be too big to properly sign anything

hoary berry
#

he could burn his signature into an object with well-controlled dragonfire

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so long as said object is not immediately incinerated

celest kettle
rustic vector
#

are addons canon?

#

things like noxus, astralgeldon, are they canon or

cloud ibex
#

no

delicate jacinth
#

Why would unoffical content be canon

#

Its not

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Well

#

Offical

dense lynx
#

They should not be counted at all.

#

Althrough noxus might be cannon. But the one in that unoffical not-made-by-real-calamity-devolpers addon does not count at all.

#

Not to mention the black square thinamingy deity and Xeroc are not the same thing.

#

Neither is infernum

cloud ibex
#

noxus is canon, WotG noxus that i believe is not going to be named noxus anymore next update is not

dense lynx
#

Therefore only something made by original calamity devolper team counts as real and offical.

crimson finch
#

Yharim definitely had a booger wall when he was a little kid

hoary berry
#

auric photochromic glasses

mighty zenith
#

what if thats not armor and yharim just has jaundice

hoary berry
#

and moisturises well so it's shiny

real silo
#

and he has scales

buoyant inlet
#

Auric fredbear

hoary berry
#

do you think draedon is capable of panic

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or anything resembling it

keen hearth
#

Do lab cores actually have a deeper meaning to them that idk about?

#

Like the onyx, elum, havoc, cinder

abstract gyro
#

I believe they are the source of energy that used to power the labs

#

so they are as special as they get to be

keen hearth
#

But do they matter to the type of labs or smth?

#

Some of them craft different accessories and weapons even tho some kinda don't make much sense

#

Like navy plates for the eldrich skull thing

real silo
#

gameplay

hoary berry
#

i always imagine the lava core is the energy source and the plating is a special material designed to protect the core from the specific threats in that environment

#

hence the different appearance of each type of plating, as it is designed for different things

real silo
#

makes sense

hoary berry
#

also the plating looks pretty in builds so i think it should stay regardless of any potential revisions to the lab design

hoary berry
#

as in, in your builds or in the labs?

#

because the latter would make zero sense at all i feel

keen hearth
#

A build I made

#

It originally used I think Onyx plating but I switched for exo prisms cuz they look cooler

real silo
#

Honestly not a huge fan of the exo blocks

#

The new exo auric stuff is baller though

hoary berry
#

they look cool but i would have little clue as to how to use exo blocks in most builds

real silo
#

Yeah

hoary berry
#

aside from those specifically themed around exo stuff

keen hearth
real silo
#

I've only used it for lights

#

ancient recipe

keen hearth
#

Just a smidge

hoary berry
#

how many turrets do you need

keen hearth
#

Every

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I just hated enemies that go through walls getting into my base

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And it was already lab themed so

scenic olive
crimson finch
#

How did Deus get infected? Did he just munch on a star with the Astral Infection? Then did he just smack an astral meteor or threw up an astral meteor to infect the world?

#

Why did my poor lil man get sick??

latent bolt
#

Game theory: Daedalus had all knowledge of his existence wiped from history by Draedon

fading siren
#

And now the illness has become part of him and he spreads it like a plague

solar wharf
#

or a child

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as draedon suggest

#

this is a theory btw

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so he just without realizing

#

ate an infected star

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which infected him and controlled him

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to throw the infection at the planet

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so it can spread

crimson finch
#

My poor lil worm

#

Why are the worms brutally murdered

scenic olive
hushed geyser
#

He sure does have a thing for greek mythology

fading siren
#

kek

celest shoal
#

I've had a few ideas for Calamity lore on Thorium and Mech bosses Rework bosses

#

May I share them?

mighty zenith
#

sure

fading siren
#

You may

#

You also june

celest shoal
#

Discord, stop crashing please

fading siren
celest shoal
#

The Great Thunder Bird lore in Calamity would be that it's actually the Thunder (or was it lightning) god of the Sunken Sea that Yharim thought died to Calamitas.

Transferring it's essence onto a creature (vulture), causing it to morph and be reborn as the Great Thunder Bird.

Keeping a low profile so not to attract attention and get absolutely obliterated again.

#

Does that fit?

neat tinsel
#

A plausible 6.5/10

celest shoal
#

How do I improve it? Because 6.5 is not a great start

neat tinsel
#

You’re right, more like 7.5

#

It’s good

latent bolt
#

grand thunder bird doesnt even die when you defeat it too

neat tinsel
#

It fits very well

celest shoal
#

It doesn't actually, it flees

graceful otter
#

thats all i have to say about it

celest shoal
#

Yeah I know

neat tinsel
#

What about other bosses like Buried Champion/Granite Energy Storm

celest shoal
#

Buried Champion is a bit outlandish, and I don't have anything on Energy Storm yet

neat tinsel
#

Fallen Beholder?

graceful otter
#

ive written cal lore on thorium bosses tho

neat tinsel
#

Borean Strider?

graceful otter
#

im unsure if i can share it

celest shoal
#

I have only made things for Buried Champ and Thunder Bird

#

Because I am not sure the Champion one fits

#

Like, at all

#

Let me go get it

#

The idea for Buried Champion is that he actually was someone Yharim was colleagues in his youth before the auric soul absorption party.

The Buried Champion siding against Yharim due to his extreme actions, attacking even Benevolent gods.

Yharim ended up personally fighting and defeating him, laying him to rest at the biome of Marble.

Although he would've never expected him to still cling on to life despite his body becoming nothing more then a living armor and decaying bones.

neat tinsel
#

Not bad

hardy roost
celest shoal
hardy roost
#

Also I know the lyrics in stained brutal calamity aren’t canon, but the second verse definitely describes Yharim more than the player

hushed geyser
#

(Stylist still exists)

celest shoal
grand remnant
celest shoal
#

Yeah that's what I was worried about

grand remnant
#

why wouldnt the champion be a rebel pre-statis and braelor (given that we now know they are recent)

#

i dont think yharim would bury someone he fought, even if he respected them at some point

celest shoal
#

Hm..

grand remnant
#

this is the same man who threw corpses into the dungeon or whatever

#

which i believe was pre-auric?

celest shoal
#

I thought that happened post-auric mess

graceful otter
#

wdym by pre auric

celest shoal
#

I can always rewrite it if it's not fitting enough

random mulch
#

lil sketch of da yoat

fading siren
#

This goes yhard

civic salmon
#

does anyone have a rough mockup of what a timeline of Calamity would look like

spring helm
scenic olive
#

the yhask

celest shoal
# celest shoal The idea for Buried Champion is that he actually was someone Yharim was colleagu...

Rewriting this.

The Buried Champion.

A warrior from an underground Marble society (based on Remnants world gen).

After witnessing the sea turn into a desolate desert, the Champion personally challenged Yharim to a 1 on 1, wishing to end the extreme crusade that clawed at the souls of all gods, even if they were benevolent.

The battle was completely one sided, the champion of marble had no chance at victory, yet they fought valiantly, enough to earn Yharim's respect.

At the battle's end, Yharim allowed the citizens of marble to bury their Champion back in their city, not expecting that years later, he would still cling to life despite being nothing more then decaying bones and a suit of armor.

civic salmon
#

okay I made a cute lil timeline but we don't have enough exact dates on things, except from Draetalk, to really make it work, and this application only lets me add so many events before I have to pay

scenic olive
#

Final Dawn dash attack is literally riptide trident from minecraft

warm hound
#

who is making these?

celest shoal
#

I feel like it is

cloud ibex
#

yharim

random mulch
#

the divine light themselves

civic salmon
fierce pagoda
#

Why is Polerghast blue, but the weapons he drops are pink

buoyant inlet
#

I imagine at some point there was a planned redesign

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But also the spirits in the dungeon

#

The uuuh

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Buffed ones

#

They're pink

scenic olive
#

phantoplasm

buoyant inlet
#

Ye

#

Idk why they're pink but they are

fierce pagoda
#

Polterghast needs to become pink too

cloud ibex
#

nah

scenic olive
#

how strong do you think if Polterghast was entirely made out of all Auric Souls

cloud ibex
#

the explanation i've heard before is that a majority of the dungeon souls are blue, and only the stronger ones are pink

#

polter's drops are made of the refined pink souls, not the weaker blue souls

hoary berry
#

and polter is blue because most of the souls it is made up of are blue?

cloud ibex
#

yes

fierce pagoda
#

Polterghast is made of of mostly blue souls, but also some pink souls, since he has a bit of pink inside of him

#

and his weapons are purely pink because they're strong got it

scenic olive
hoary berry
#

ectoplasm weak compared to polty

#

tier stuff

scenic olive
#

thats what theyre made of..

cloud ibex
#

you can compare the blue ghost things to the pink ones

hoary berry
#

honestly i'm not the biggest fan of that explanation

#

but it does make sense

civic salmon
#

ghosts/ectoplasm are naturally light blue

#

polter-ghosts are very angry

#

angry is red

#

red + light blue = pink

#

weapons are mad that they are weapons

#

pink

#

polterghast has some angry ghosts and a lot of ghosts that are just confused

#

pink and light blue

scenic olive
#

Terrarian : heh, i bet i can beat him

supple thunder
#

the dragons didn’t even weaken fovos with any kind of magic, they literally just took away his legs and he lost 99% of his power

supple thunder
#

zeratros took a big ol bite

#

but it was poisonous so he died

cold owl
#

Like being eaten alive by bats

supple thunder
#

my favorite

civic salmon
#

Maybe this is a hot take, it's definitely a literally hot take, but Yharon doesn't catch enough flak for being the one to spur Yharim on to the Crusade in the first place. Yeah Roar of the Jungle Dragon is a banger that makes him very sympathetic but depending on how much he remembered from his past lives and how big a role he played in spurring on Yharim, he could more or less be the real driving force behind the Crusade

random mulch
#

yharon's sorta justifiably angry but yharim is just a complete nutccase

#

yharim started spiraling and yharon went along with it

cloud ibex
#

Yharon is The Most Biased Person In Existence when it comes to gods but Yharim did just… listen to him basically immediately

supple thunder
#

this fits in with yharim just being a dragon fanboy, he wanted to gain yharon's favor and simp for him by doing whatever he says

random mulch
#

either yharim was already on the fast track becoming who he became as soon as he was thrown off.
or he was always just kinda like that

solar wharf
#

i went on a rant with a couple others explaining why yharon is an asshole

#

so i agree

#

yharon isnt as worse as yharim but hes up there

#

yharon atleast has a valid reason, his species got wiped, yharim however, he only got executed by a bunch of gods, not even 50% of them

#

and that for him was enough to decide a genocide was needed

#

well, i say valid reason, theres little to validate a genocide but you get what i mean

#

yharons reason is nowhere near as fucked as yharims

pliant ruin
#

yharon n yharim both suck but atleast yharon has a more understandable reasoning - It's not valid, nothing validates what they did, but it's a motive you can ultimately atleast empathize with more than yharim's

random mulch
#

maybe yharim was never that good of a person in the first place

spring helm
#

well they're both attuned, so their personalities are likely similar

#

if yharon sucks then yharim sucks too

random mulch
#

the gods rolled really fucking unlucky by giving yharim both a reason to dislike gods and another being with a similar personality who also dislikes gods

pliant ruin
#

if only those gods that wanted yharim to be a god king weren't stinky

halcyon dust
#

Tbf you can have anyone hate a god if the only gods they know are just tyrants with power

#

Even if yharim becomes the same

stark basalt
#

Yharon definitely sucks

solar wharf
#

would u guys have accepted the god-king

graceful otter
#

no

solar wharf
#

or would u have questioned the morality behind absorbing an auric soul

graceful otter
#

i am a bit like yharim where i hate forcing actions on others and actions being forced on me

#

if i knew i could get out, i would

solar wharf
#

wow noob just admitted to wanting to commit genocide

#

cant believe her

#

in a more serious note

#

thats fair

#

i would probably accept it assuming i was trained for it

stark basalt
#

Noob is actually Yharim

#

Nah Jkjk

#

Would we hate Yharim if he didn’t commit genocide?

spring helm
#

that's like

#

the only reason we hate him

stark basalt
#

I mean

#

Idk

spring helm
#

it's a very good reason

stark basalt
#

It is a very good reason

#

But idk if I necessarily dislike a lot of the gods

spring helm
#

well if you never knew the dragons (which would be likely since all but one died a few hundred years ago) you'd be pretty neutral to them

solar wharf
#

only KILLING the gods

#

not the worshippers

#

so its more akinned to mass slaugther than literal genocide

#

i dont think there was more than 100 gods

spring helm
#

he would be less hatable, that's for sure

solar wharf
#

in a continent i mean

spring helm
#

we'd have a more nuanced discussion

#

since there are good gods and bad

stark basalt
#

The question I wanna know is

#

Would he still have tried to recruit Calamitas?

#

For god killing purposes?

#

Cuz child soldier stuff is fucked up

spring helm
stark basalt
#

Actually I kinda feel that too

spring helm
stark basalt
#

I still wouldn’t like Yharim I don’t think

#

Bro is still going after gods just minding their business

#

If he went after someone like Providence

#

It’s like okay

#

But I highly doubt that most of the gods were like her

spring helm
#

i took another look at what yharim said, and it seems that they became attuned after the lava incident

solar wharf
#

a lot of gods probably already repayed their sin of killing a dragon

#

repented

stark basalt
#

Bro snuggled with Yharon for too long

solar wharf
#

they probably did enough good deeds

#

to justify it

stark basalt
#

He got attached

#

Questioning whether the ends justify the means

spring helm
solar wharf
#

like, if a god made my civilization a better place to live in, got us out of the underworld, then i really dont give a fuck that a dragon died for it

stark basalt
#

I wanna know what the dragons were like

solar wharf
#

actually it kinda depends

stark basalt
#

Cuz if someone killed an asshole and took their power to do some good

#

Then I don’t care about the asshole dying

solar wharf
#

for me, when the power used for good, saves an entire civilization

#

then 100%

#

yes.

spring helm
solar wharf
#

providence did have righteous anger toward the flame dragon

stark basalt
#

Lolll

spring helm
solar wharf
#

obviously but yharim didnt

#

so even if he ONLY killed the gods

#

to me hes still fucked up

stark basalt
#

Yharim is only going off of what Yharon says

solar wharf
#

he has no justifaction whatsoever

stark basalt
#

What if Yharon is a biased asshole

solar wharf
#

he has no connections to dragon

#

beside yharon

spring helm
#

that's true

#

bro was simping for a long dead peoples

solar wharf
#

he didnt lose a loved one, or even one he said hi too, hes trying to avenge creatures that dominanted his own species

#

thats fucked imo

spring helm
#

to me, the dragon genocide is just justification for his own anger towards the gods

solar wharf
#

obviously i also dont think killing benlovent dragons is good, i still think thats also fucked, but if the god that did it

#

saved an entire civilization

#

then i kinda dont see the issue

spring helm
#

like a noble mask over his true reason

solar wharf
#

true

#

obviously my stance would change if that dragon was let say, my father

#

but thats normal

#

i would always be mad at something if it hurts me, alive beings are just selfish by nature

pliant ruin
# solar wharf then i kinda dont see the issue

in that case i feel like it could actually be debated but you can't really say anyone involved was truly evil
in other words it's an actual case of gray morality unlike what ppl who say yharim is morally grey think

solar wharf
#

ye

#

i agree

#

its literally just about perspective

#

to us, the god saved us

#

to the dragons, the god ruined them

#

morality is subjective when it comes to these aspects

#

the question reaches, do you think that was worth it?

#

there is little to no objectively in that thought process

pliant ruin
#

ya

#

ppl who say morality is subjective r not wrong but alot of them forget that it's subjective until a certain point

#

like yeah, in this case, its subjective

solar wharf
#

i agree with that

pliant ruin
#

but like

#

if

#

if some random guy starts tossing babies on a volcano for no eason like

#

yeah uh

#

thats

#

thats not really

#

yknow

solar wharf
#

thats objectively bad yea

#

you really cannot argue against that

#

like how can you even defend that without saying

#

"no"

pliant ruin
#

you dont understand the babies were evil trust me

#

they uhhh

#

they blew up people!

#

yeah!

#

with their bombs

solar wharf
#

THEY COULDV GREW INTO TERROISTS

#

YOU NEVER KNOW

#

but yeah, if i was told that i could slay this dragon to guarntee my familys life and peace for the next 30 years

#

i would consider it

#

if not actually do it depending on the situations i am in

pliant ruin
#

thats fair honestly

spring helm
#

so Drunk Princess is just what Fabsol looks like irl right

fierce pagoda
#

Lets just say so

pliant ruin
#

definitely ye

#

this one is me

#

irl

fierce pagoda
#

Fabsol actually looks like the alicorn mount irl

pliant ruin
#

how hungry

solar wharf
fierce pagoda
#

In fact, if you use the alicorn mount in-game, the Cirrus npc disappears, since she actually turns in to the alicorn you are riding

spring helm
#

you get to ride fabsol😳 ?

fierce pagoda
#

Yes

#

quite literally too

spring helm
#

alright lorers, I need a name for the kingdom the princess npc comes from

stark basalt
#

Princessland

#

Nah

spring helm
#

that's hilarious

#

i'll take it

#

no wait

#

that should be for drunk princess

fierce pagoda
#

ok what about

#

Enchancia

#

sofia the first's kingdom

spring helm
#

so you're telling me
that the princess npc
was a girl in a village doing alright?
and then she became a princess overnight?

fierce pagoda
#

Yup, and now shes gotta figure out how to do it right

spring helm
#

actually now that i think about it, that could be workable
the kingdom got devasted during Yharim's Crusade and the main royal family got killed
so the kingdom had to go back up the family tree and track down any living descendants of the original king
and they were the Princess' family
so now she's a princess

fierce pagoda
#

Wow you're good at this, you should write fan lore

#

Wattpad calamity fanfictions

spring helm
#

i am writing fanfic, yes

#

that's why i asked in the first place
i'm terrible at coming up with names

civic salmon
spring helm
#

i dont think the kingdom would be there anymore if they worshipped a god

#

i would say they got caught in the crossfire because they controlled some valuable resource

#

yharim would 100% involve innocents if it would benefit him

glacial rampart
#

disagree

#

yharim was very principled and if those people hadnt dont anything wrong in his eyes (supporting gods/assisting in the dragon genocide) then there would no reason to get them involved

spare pier
#

Ilmeris seems to disagree HDfailure

#

.

#

Wait shit I'm dumb

#

I should've read up on context

tall delta
#

lo

glacial rampart
spring helm
#

i feel that he would have tried to keep innocents out of his crusade in the beginning, but would care less and less about collatoral damage over time

spare pier
#

I personally do not wish to make the Princess related to any tragedy, even if indirectly

spring helm
#

While that does sound nice Rebecca, the entire planet she lives on is a continuous tragedy

spare pier
#

It's been quite for an awfully long time, and she's just a child

graceful otter
#

what if her kingdom did not need a god, and therefore did not get affected by yharim

humble fog
graceful otter
#

like shes quite the adept magician at such a young age

tall delta
#

Lets give yharon auric soul to her

graceful otter
#

so maybe her royal family were great mages

glacial rampart
spare pier
#

It's completely believable that she was born in a kingdom that didn't suffer from Yharim's Crusade and she was simply never really told about what exactly happened with the world

spare pier
#

Specially because she is like, 10

#

She was born after Ilmeris' Incineration, probably

spring helm
#

Well she could be born after the Cursade I suppose

spare pier
#

Nah then she'd be a baby HDfailure

spring helm
#

I’m not really sure how long after the crusade ended the game starts

spare pier
#

I'd say the Crusade ended after Yharim's fight with Braelor and Statis

#

Wait no

#

There really wasn't anything else after that

#

But that happened like, less than a decade ago

#

I think not even 5 years passed

spring helm
#

according to draedon, a little over a year i think

#

hm...

spare pier
#

Oh right true

#

He says that

supple thunder
spring helm
#

how about this then
The kingdom Princess came from did not house any gods, nor did its people worship. As a result, though it was involved in the Crusade, it was spared most of the destruction that other kingdoms such as Ilmeris experienced.

spring helm
supple thunder
#

oh regular princess

#

not drunk

#

mb

#

ok yea keep her innocent pls

spring helm
#

Well I was mostly trying to come up with lore for @fierce pagoda's "Sofia the First" idea, where she was a normal village girl who got adopted into the royal family.
It's a silly idea, but I thought it would be fun to elaborate more on and see where it goes.

pliant ruin
#

princess is just a random little npc i dont think shes getting like

#

any lore

spring helm
#

that's what we're here for

supple thunder
#

i can’t believe i read the entire convo thinking it was drunk princess

#

this makes much more sense now

#

she could absolutely be sofia the first

tall delta
#

doesnt the npcs tell lore

spring helm
#

Only some

civic salmon
tall delta
#

clearly she must have a really important dialogue with lore

#

really important lore

spare pier
#

My estimate is like, 12 or 13

#

She is in her late 20's now

#

So the Incineration happened around 15 years ago

civic salmon
#

Okay, gotcha

wheat walrus
#

Gang calamities

#

"I aim to freeze." -John Permafrost

#

"But I aim to burn." -Jane Calamity

civic salmon
#

year without santa claus...

spring helm
#

The bestiary says that she inherited her power as a teenager, so I’d put her at 12 or 13 too, since Yharim refers to her as a child when they first found her

supple thunder
#

puberty hit her hard

pliant ruin
#

she was just a lass,,,,

wheat walrus
#

She warcrimemaxxed

pliant ruin
#

yharim (grown old ass man who commited genocide) is clearly a good guy, calamitas is clearly evil

#

(she is a 13 year old dumb child who dosen't even know what a airfryer is)

wheat walrus
#

You don't know what an airfryer is!!!

solar wharf
#

going to the calamity universe just to make fun of her for that

#

like imagine not knowing what an airfryer is

pliant ruin
#

calamitas, making breakfast

#

suddenly, a person she's never seen before manifests in her ... cave

#

points at her

#

"you dont even know what a airfryer is" (very indifferent, almost robotic sounding laugh)

#

the person then disappears

solar wharf
#

LMAO

cosmic zenith
solar wharf
#

DAMN!

wheat walrus
#

Fr

wheat walrus
cosmic zenith
#

Calamitas wasn't an infant when Azafure's Incineration happened

#

And that surely wasn't back-to-back with Ilmeris' Incineration

pliant ruin
#

lore dev deathmatch go

cosmic zenith
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I assumed Calamitas was around 13 during Azafure's Incineration, as 17-18 during Ilmeris' Incineration

wheat walrus
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Have I ever talked to you guys about our lord and savior airless fryer

pliant ruin
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i'll choose to believe the 13 year old illmeris incineration cuz it makes calamitas more sad and miserable

cosmic zenith
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Which would put Ilmeris around 10 years ago, and Azafure ~15

cosmic zenith
wheat walrus
pliant ruin
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I mean she did in fact not have very good control of her powers so i assume she just had like

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a sudden burst of power that she didn't have much agency over, which would fit with them
you know
destroying azafure

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kind of like that one episode of avatar

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i forgot which

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where aang controls a big water elemental thingy and starts destroying everything

solar wharf
cosmic zenith
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She wouldn't be able to destroy a city with just one attack

pliant ruin
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I mean

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i never said it'd be only one attack

cosmic zenith
hushed geyser
wheat walrus
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Throw the infant at speeds exceeding that of sound, with a sonic boom, the brimstone elemental would be greatly damaged from the impact, additionally infants like to eat things they don't know of, so the infant will eat brimstone elemental and become powerful (proper explanation for how traces of Brimmy's power were found in scal or whayever)

cosmic zenith
solar wharf
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im pretty sure a 6 year old also has an idea of what a fight is

wheat walrus
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There you go you get a powerful baby

pliant ruin
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I'm not a lore dev but i always just assumed she was barely in control during azafure given she seemingly had never used this magic before and it just kind of came out of nowhere + was overwhelmingly powerful

wheat walrus
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Who can destroy cities

pliant ruin
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My point is exactly that she didn't coordinate it, or atleast that's how i see it

spring helm
pliant ruin
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She tries using magic to defend her family, uh oh! magic too strong! goes crazy

solar wharf
spring helm
pliant ruin
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I mean

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that's

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what i got from it

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And i think most ppl got too

solar wharf
wheat walrus
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It also depends on what age span the infant we're talking about is in cause for all I'm seeing people have slightly changed definitions of infant

spring helm
pliant ruin
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she destroyed fogbounds home

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the fog city

solar wharf
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im more surprised on how the terrarain didnt find calamitas hanging from the roof honestly

wheat walrus
solar wharf
solar wharf
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she knows what a fight is at that age

spring helm
solar wharf
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no....

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no.....

spring helm
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Terrarian is a monster for killing aquatic scourge

pliant ruin
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also if she was in control of her magic and coordinatign attacks then it'd be a little odd cuz that'd mean she was actually actively responsible for destroying azafure and killing her own siblings
which like ofc calamitas did some bad shit but the bad things she does are usually a result of external influences, manipulation, and things she can't control
if she was just, coordinating the attacks n everything, that'd just be entirely her fault for destroying azafure and killing her brothers which. is rather unfitting for her character imo

tall delta
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hunt of the old god

wheat walrus
solar wharf
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POPCORN

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STOP IT

reef elk
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A monster... hunter?

pliant ruin
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STOP

spring helm
solar wharf
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NO

pliant ruin
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NO. STOP

solar wharf
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WHAT DID YOU DO

wheat walrus
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We hunting monsters with this one 🗣️

reef elk
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🤝

spring helm
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embed fail

wheat walrus
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Embed failure

reef elk
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Continue lore discussions

reef elk
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Im taking notes

solar wharf
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she killed her own family?

pliant ruin
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yeah

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her brothers

spring helm
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yeah

pliant ruin
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we don't know abt the rest

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but her brothers yeah

spring helm
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catastrophe and cataclysm

pliant ruin
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she killed them

solar wharf
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and then she revived them?

pliant ruin
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yeah

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(partially, atleast)