lore-discussion

[magic epoch]

Im dumb

[scenic olive]

hes in fact a god

weakest of all

[dusk sluice]

something to do with fell magic or somethin

[magic epoch]

actually slime god is dead I killed them days ago

[candid shadow]

Bro's a god and is still a pre-hardmode boss

[scenic olive]

dragon of gluttony

which was the weakest dragon of them all

[earnest flare]

remember kids, slime god is trans

[candid shadow]

blud is weaker than a meat wall 💀

[candid shadow]

ÑOOOOOOOOO

[magic epoch]

wdym no

[earnest flare]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1001986790837727302/1095431528705699991/812C7407-A20E-4175-9E28-336DBC486CEE.gif

[scenic olive]

that same meat wall can hold Thousands of Godly souls and essence

[candid shadow]

XD

[glacial rampart]

odd user

:/

[candid shadow]

cries in spanish

[glacial rampart]

you have a problem?

[candid shadow]

btw I actually didn't know that lol

[dusk sluice]

Mabye the slime god is in a weakened state since it got sulluied by "Muck and grime"

still a coward

[magic epoch]

just to fuck with the transphobes let's make every lore character canonically trans except for draedon bc that doesn't make sense

[candid shadow]

well, he's still a wall made of flesh

[candid shadow]

XD

truly a calamity mod moment

[glacial rampart]

https://tenor.com/view/yharim-calamity-mod-gif-3460410180494450897

[dusk sluice]

Yharim and Xeroc... enemies to lovers....

[glacial rampart]

NO

[earnest flare]

stop

[magic epoch]

get this ao3 shit out of my sight

[candid shadow]

I like to think that the lore was decided like:
Slime god? TRANS!
Yharim? TRANS!
Calamitas? TRANS!
Mommy- Empress of light? TRA- hold up uhhh

[dusk sluice]

*Insert mario and sonic making out but its Xeroc and Yharim

[earnest flare]

❌
the only character confirmed to be trans is slime god

(and i dont think trans ppl would like half their representation to be a genocidal maniac)

[magic epoch]

too late

[glacial rampart]

:3 i dont speak for most but ,,,,, :3333333

jk

[earnest flare]

so umm yeah i dont believe in transmasc yharim

[candid shadow]

I swear of all the characters in the game I never imagined the slime god to be the impostor lmao

[earnest flare]

WHAT

umm

[glacial rampart]

"impostor" do not

do fucking not

stop

[candid shadow]

IMPOESTER

[earnest flare]

weird choice of words...?

[glacial rampart]

saying shit like that

[candid shadow]

IMPOSTER

IMPOSTER!!!!!!

[tall delta]

wait is slime god actually trans now

[candid shadow]

PSIMTERPO

[glacial rampart]

i wasnt talking about "oo aa among us"

[magic epoch]

ok but that about mtf yharim

[earnest flare]

god whats with the implied transphobia in this chat today

[glacial rampart]

its literally just this one dude

[candid shadow]

i tought you meant that I made a gramar mistaek

[glacial rampart]

unless there other stuff

[earnest flare]

... oh

[candid shadow]

What are u talking about

btw haven't i mentioned my plans of visiting france

[earnest flare]

thought the first one was a different guy for a sec

[magic epoch]

you implied that being trans = impostor?

[glacial rampart]

no i was referring to the fact that you were talking about slime god being trans as it being an "imposter" which like
just fucking dont????

[dusk sluice]

mabye the transphobes were the friends we made along the way...

[tall delta]

yharim

[magic epoch]

wtf,,,

[tall delta]

calamity mod

[candid shadow]

ye

[magic epoch]

WOOOOOOO

[tall delta]

Goozma

[candid shadow]

cuz it's funni

[glacial rampart]

no it fucking isnt

[candid shadow]

the oly chad

[candid shadow]

shit

[tall delta]

Dragon of luck

[magic epoch]

YARISH

[candid shadow]

What's up with my keyboard today

[earnest flare]

transphobia is infact not funny

[glacial rampart]

im trans

[earnest flare]

good for you

[glacial rampart]

and i know a lot of people in this server also are

and just generally

do not

say shit like that

[candid shadow]

bruh

[glacial rampart]

ever

[magic epoch]

i am also (technically) trans

🤝

[candid shadow]

I made

a joke

bruh

[earnest flare]

not trans but i am included in pride month by being aroace

[candid shadow]

anyways can we talk about the lore of "Aristoputas"?

[glacial rampart]

no

[candid shadow]

:(

[glacial rampart]

you dont get out of this

[magic epoch]

what is this guy yapping about

[glacial rampart]

you cant just say barely not transphobic shit and try and get out of it

[candid shadow]

yo, now that we're here

[magic epoch]

this sure is a good intro to #lore-discussion

[candid shadow]

what the hell does "yapping" mean

[magic epoch]

talking

[candid shadow]

o

well that makes sense

[graceful otter]

draedon makes more sense actually. he was a robot so he did not have any assigned gender, and therefore chose his he/him pronouns himself, therefore making him trans

[magic epoch]

shit true

and real

[candid shadow]

i mean, if he's a robot it wouldn't count as trans, but rather as non-binary, right?

[dusk sluice]

I think they mean that even as a robot he choose a gender

[candid shadow]

I mean, he's not even a robot, he's a "cyborg", right?

[graceful otter]

how can a robot be non binary

[candid shadow]

aren't they???

[graceful otter]

he is an ai

[magic epoch]

oh my god i want to #########

[dusk sluice]

this made me chuckle

[candid shadow]

XD

[dusk sluice]

[candid shadow]

Didn't non binary mean that something does not have a gender???

like a machine or something

[earnest flare]

robots are agender by default, its just that some of them have a gender imposed on the- wait that applies to humans too

[magic epoch]

Hm yes I am a machine

[candid shadow]

Like Calamitas

makes sense

totally

[magic epoch]

what

[dusk sluice]

It does but robots are made with "Binary" coding so tis a pun

[earnest flare]

huh

[candid shadow]

alright that was joking

don't worry

[candid shadow]

ooooooooh

[earnest flare]

ok that time i didnt even know what you meant

[candid shadow]

good one

got me there lol

[glacial rampart]

im going to try to explain this to you as simply as i can: by equating Transgender people to 'imposters', even as a joke, is supporting the idea that transgender people are not the gender they choose, but rather they are just an 'impostor' pretending to be the gender they choose for whatever purpose

which isnt true

and you shouldnt say this kind of shit

so

dont

ever

again

[candid shadow]

I MADE A JOKE

[glacial rampart]

do i need to drill it into your

thick

[candid shadow]

bruh

[glacial rampart]

head

again

[candid shadow]

yeah

[glacial rampart]

it doesnt matter

if it was a joke

its still upsetting

[candid shadow]

what

why

[glacial rampart]

i

literally just

fucking explained

why

[earnest flare]

joking about trans people is fucked up either way

[magic epoch]

that's literally like "guys i killed this guy but it was a joke"

[candid shadow]

bro's getting angry because some random dude in the internet made a joke lol

[glacial rampart]

im a girl

tho tbf i dont mind what im called

[candid shadow]

ok

[glacial rampart]

but for the purpose of this

[candid shadow]

benny

[glacial rampart]

my point is that

[magic epoch]

in their defense on that one bro and guy are gender neutral 90% of the time

[candid shadow]

no offense but

[glacial rampart]

agreed

[candid shadow]

could u like shut up please

not in a bad sense

[tall delta]

huh

[candid shadow]

i wanna keep talkin about calamity lore

[earnest flare]

no man, you dont just walk away from transphobic jokes like that

[magic epoch]

could you stop making transphobic jokes first

[candid shadow]

._.

[glacial rampart]

just because something is a joke doesnt make it okay

like at all

[candid shadow]

what is going on

i'm actually scared of the bible Acoon and Him are writting

[tall delta]

lore discussion in its peak...

[dusk sluice]

I think they want an apology... might be the only way to get out of this... sticky situation...

[candid shadow]

truly

I have tears of joy on my face

[tall delta]

you should be....

[candid shadow]

of the enlightment

did everyone left

[glacial rampart]

I truly do not think you have malicious intent, I just think you're thick-skulled and dont understand the problem,

[magic epoch]

im just waiting for the chat to move on

[dusk sluice]

Omg I just realized that a 30 stack of food will give unlimted buff with teh fargos mod

[magic epoch]

what does this means in terms of lore

[dusk sluice]

I have a crap ton of steak that I never used just sitting inna chest

[candid shadow]

i am zmart

i have 20 iq

above average

[tall delta]

nice

[magic epoch]

[candid shadow]

My brain is fat and big (I have 7 cancerous tumours)

[glacial rampart]

just, dont make those kinds of jokes again please.

[tall delta]

not nice

[candid shadow]

o k

[glacial rampart]

You might not see the issue with them but they're upsetting and harmful to a lot of people, including myself.

[magic epoch]

i wonder if anyone mod mailed

[candid shadow]

upsetting? yes

harmfull? uhhhhh

[glacial rampart]

do not

[tall delta]

ok stop

[glacial rampart]

dig yourself deeper

[magic epoch]

oh my god

[candid shadow]

I mean, it's not with malicious stuff

GUYS

[glacial rampart]

you were literally fine

[candid shadow]

swowy

I just

[glacial rampart]

i was quite literally letting you off the hook 😭

[candid shadow]

fine

XD

bro

What i meant

[earnest flare]

😭

[glacial rampart]

please

just stop

[candid shadow]

XD

every single word makes it worse

[glacial rampart]

yes actually

unironically

[tall delta]

Focus on the calamitous lore !!

[spare pier]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/466943505663655937/1083946998614470748/1678391318329531.gif

[tall delta]

lets talk about how yharim is in the mod

[spare pier]

@glacial rampart @candid shadow the both of you

Stop this

[candid shadow]

NO WAY!!11!1 A KAGUYA REFERENC

*touhou

[spare pier]

Move on, and please don't make these kind of jokes again

Tho I think this was made clear

[candid shadow]

This is why i'm in the calamity mod discord

truly

[dusk sluice]

Is this art fr or is this js fan art?

[candid shadow]

a calamity mod discord moment

cries

[tall delta]

old

[earnest flare]

finally, a mod stepped in

[candid shadow]

looks cool

[tall delta]

theres a new one

[graceful otter]

old concept art

[dusk sluice]

show me pls

[earnest flare]

i would've totally called one earlier if i didnt have social anxiety

[dusk sluice]

im begging

[graceful otter]

check the pins of this channel for the up to date concept arts of characters

[candid shadow]

liar

*l i a r *

jk jk

[magic epoch]

ok let's do the one thing the mod said

and move on

that's a good idea I think

[spare pier]

Please

[dusk sluice]

SO this?

[candid shadow]

Did you know that the final boss of Touhou 12 is a budhist monk

[graceful otter]

yes

[candid shadow]

holy

[tall delta]

Yk that one time dragon of luck appeared

[civic salmon]

?

[magic epoch]

HE LOOKS SO SHORT

[spare pier]

Yes

[civic salmon]

he's like 12 feet

[tall delta]

and escaped the dragon hunters due to his luck

[graceful otter]

scaled next to scal

[magic epoch]

he looks 5'2

[candid shadow]

🗿

[candid shadow]

bro

[magic epoch]

bro is widee

[dusk sluice]

Was boutta say it looks like he chunked up a lil biyt

[candid shadow]

WHAT

[civic salmon]

ok he's like 10 feet

[candid shadow]

bro's gotta stop eating mcnuggets

[graceful otter]

9 feet with the total height of the armour

[spare pier]

Lilac's artstyle makes all characters wide

Just look at Cal

[magic epoch]

a sizable calamitas

[candid shadow]

t h i c yharim

[spare pier]

It's just their artstyle

[earnest flare]

yerm is gigantic

[magic epoch]

yerm

what about yarn

[dusk sluice]

Nah he definitely cut a few centimeters off

[earnest flare]

why isnt yermes christal working it throughs a piece of dnimite

[graceful otter]

why the fuck isent yermes christal working it throughs a pice of dnimite

[earnest flare]

that was my best recital yet

[glacial rampart]

i think its just that hes broader now

he used to be more thin

relatively*

he was still afucking truck

[graceful otter]

i have to say it

[glacial rampart]

now he's just like

a semi truck

[graceful otter]

he was built like a twink before

[dusk sluice]

Will just make dodging him harder in the fight 😔

[glacial rampart]

banned !

[candid shadow]

thic yharim

[magic epoch]

does yharim always have his armor on

[graceful otter]

yes

ever since that one shower assassination

he knew

[supple thunder]

it’s like a darth vader type deal right

[graceful otter]

he TRULY knew the value of keeping his armour on

[dusk sluice]

I see why they changed the design though. in the old one it doesnt look like armor but more like hes just a robot

[candid shadow]

those auric armor stats

[graceful otter]

yharon MOCKED him for keeping it on during showers

[candid shadow]

what

[magic epoch]

tbf electricity and water don't tend to go too well

[candid shadow]

ain't no way that's canon

[graceful otter]

its real

[candid shadow]

No

no way

[dusk sluice]

would be funny asf if it was

[candid shadow]

please

[supple thunder]

????

[graceful otter]

yharon mocked yharim for always keeping his armour on

even during showers

[earnest flare]

its real

[candid shadow]

dude thinks he's a cosplayer

[spare pier]

(It's not)

[candid shadow]

thanks

[dusk sluice]

I KNOW yharim smells

[graceful otter]

then, when statis and braelor finally thought they got an opening on yharim

during his showers

[earnest flare]

cannot gaslight gatekeep girlboss 😭

[graceful otter]

they thought they had a chance to face yharim without his mighty auric armour

[civic salmon]

pffffff

[graceful otter]

BUT IT WAS JUST A RUSE

HE HAD HIS ARMOUR ON

HES ALWAYS HAD IT ON

AND HE GLORIOUSLY WON THE FIGHT

[civic salmon]

also if yharim takes off the armor wont he like. age to 80 years old in an instant. isnt it his life support

[magic epoch]

honestly surprisedly yharim showers, doesn't seem like a showercell. a bathpilled washer

[dusk sluice]

Bro put echo paint on his armor 😭

[graceful otter]

AND THEN YHARON WAS THE ONE BEING MOCKED FOR TAKING OFF HIS ARMOUR

[candid shadow]

The sun is going to explode before we get the yharim superboss update

[magic epoch]

yharon armor?

[graceful otter]

yea

[magic epoch]

i feel like this is something that would be said during an election

calamity election

[dusk sluice]

They should make it so that after beating yharim Xeroc will give one final test with an upgraded terminus and its fighting every boss in the game 🙂

at the same time

[civic salmon]

final boss not superboss

[candid shadow]

true

[civic salmon]

and they're working hard ok

[candid shadow]

i know but it kinda is more cool to say "superboss" than "final boss"

[civic salmon]

but they mean different things

[supple thunder]

and yharim wins again with 103% of the votes!!! what a surprise

[glacial rampart]

they mean different things yeah

[earnest flare]

wow boob you are really good at storytelling you should work on an addon or something

[candid shadow]

then we're gonna wait another 5 billion years to get Yharim adapted to Infernum mod

[earnest flare]

so true modnotifs

[civic salmon]

I dont play Infernum not my problem

[civic salmon]

wait what addon does noob do

[glacial rampart]

infernum isnt getting any more updates anyways

[earnest flare]

cascade

[magic epoch]

Ultimate Boss sounds cooler and is also technically correct

[spring helm]

Calamity vanities, wrath of the gods, hint of the old god, catalyst, infernum

[magic epoch]

wow noob that's a lot

[spring helm]

Yeah

[civic salmon]

oh shit wow okay

didnt know that

[spring helm]

Noob’s goated like that

Super hard worker

[earnest flare]

full list of addons boob does not write for

[spring helm]

Me when I spread misinformation

[glacial rampart]

why are you calling her that, 😭 im not caught up

[civic salmon]

I legit don't play addons so I dont know these things 💀

[magic epoch]

boob

[earnest flare]

its an inside joke

[civic salmon]

is there a website for this

[spring helm]

Everyone loves boob

[glacial rampart]

https://tenor.com/view/zane-ninjago-lego-ninjago-death-fail-gif-22975365

[graceful otter]

girls kissing

[magic epoch]

And now it's an outside joke

[graceful otter]

thats why

[magic epoch]

WOOOOOOOOOOOO

[spring helm]

Madam Boob, can you verify these claims

[graceful otter]

uhhh sure if its in my favour

yea i totally work on those

[spring helm]

There we go

[tall delta]

what is the auric souls of goozmaz

[civic salmon]

okay but can you actually give a direct answer since I don't know

[graceful otter]

cascade

[earnest flare]

wow, hint of the old god

that ones new

[sand ocean]

studying
6 pings
check notifs
people saying boob multiple times in lore disc

[spring helm]

According to the addon’s lore, it just developed its own

[civic salmon]

is there like a page for that or something (Ive never heard of it sorry)

[graceful otter]

LMAO

[earnest flare]

LOL

[tall delta]

❌

[spring helm]

https://tenor.com/view/minor-spelling-mistake-gif-21179057

[tall delta]

its the chromatic auric soul

[sand ocean]

when did they add this to calamity lore

[magic epoch]

women

[spring helm]

Providence

[earnest flare]

umm its in draedate

[graceful otter]

uhhhh its an upcoming in development addon

thats all u get

u have to search for the rest

[sand ocean]

Get Back On Topic 😎

[magic epoch]

DRAEDON BOOBEr?!?!?

[earnest flare]

😭

[civic salmon]

Ah okay 👍 looking forward to it.

[spring helm]

Fuck I’m wrong again

[graceful otter]

oh mb we will get back to the morality of genocide again

[tall delta]

I wish i knew what cascade and the other one is

[sand ocean]

yeah please do that

[tall delta]

truly sad

[graceful otter]

so guys

[sand ocean]

you mean

[earnest flare]

umm genocide is bad i think

[sand ocean]

the lack of morality

[graceful otter]

i think yharim is right

[sand ocean]

right

?

[magic epoch]

Cascade is a vanilla yoyo from gold dungeon chests

[sand ocean]

im gonna shoot you

[glacial rampart]

https://tenor.com/view/anji-mito-kachoufuugetsu-kachou-guilty-gear-fortune-cookie-gif-1152208147994219027

[spring helm]

Bad moral is still a moral

[graceful otter]

yharim? biased??? nahhhhh

[sand ocean]

https://tenor.com/view/attack-tole-tole-humble-cat-evil-nefarious-gif-3184810906682277049

[spring helm]

Summoner build

[magic epoch]

ADD THANK YOU FOR SWNDING THIS A FEW DAYS AGO

[civic salmon]

its also a homestuck reference

probably. knowing the average demographic.

[spring helm]

Stealing Reddit art

Yhat

[magic epoch]

Yhoaf

[dusk sluice]

I would say the gods are worse then yharim but we only hear his side of the story during his post bossfight yap session and Xeroc wont talk to us cause were "Not worthy" 🙄

[spring helm]

Yharon watching divine genocide

[tall delta]

Why terrarian didnt shove yharon entire soul in the auric ore

wouldnt that give better result

[spring helm]

One time I summoned all of Yharim’s big shots to fight

Calamitas dipped the fuck out instantly, I didn’t even beat her
DoG died in like a minute
And Draedon yapped the entire duration of Yharon’s painful death

Very canon

[magic epoch]

What

[spring helm]

I wanted a post-endgame challenge

[dusk sluice]

Calamatis pulled a Patches

[spring helm]

All the mock attunement did was stop the auric ore from rejecting anything, so the auric bars are basically just a super strong metal.
I don’t think putting any more soul in them would have made a difference

Yharim’s actually attuned so he can use the auric rejection at will

I think that’s the main difference between the player’s and Yharim’s auric armour

[candid shadow]

True

Time to talk about politics

Caltú >empresa of lite (Don't know their names idk)

[forest knot]

A facility like this wouldn’t contain the infection for long would it?

[candid shadow]

T h e v i r u s w i l l p r e v a i l

[forest knot]

[dusk sluice]

Can I please be informed as to how dreadon achived such a build and can I also know how to look like this myself?

[forest knot]

Grasshopper dna

[dusk sluice]

I think he may have slouched at the computer too much

[forest knot]

Ok who’s the fallout fan who designed the arsenal weapons

I hear that Gatling laser

[civic salmon]

robot

[candid shadow]

Dread dedo

Caltú

Empresa of lite

Dev outer of ducks

Call amigas (calamitas)

[robust prism]

Good gamer posture

[spring helm]

Draeroids

[scenic olive]

peak robot body

[scenic olive]

YOU CANNOT CONTAIN ME IN A BOX ahh vibe

[latent bolt]

why am i thinking of an astral bio center lab rn

[slender ingot]

Draedon's design feels similar to something else, i don't know why.

[cloud ibex]

Shrimp

[civic salmon]

It wouldn't work, it would just get infected

[cloud ibex]

what's the criteria for getting infected again

[latent bolt]

anything that isnt sentient ig?

[sinful adder]

The less conscious something is, the more susceptible to infection it is

Nonliving things are easy, animals and machines are also pretty easy, people can't be infected.

[cloud ibex]

solution: make the research lab biomechanical and give it the soul of... idk someone really dedicated to draedon's research so it counts as sentient

ez

draedon should hire me

[buoyant inlet]

I would hire you

[cloud ibex]

thank you, thank you, i try my best

[forest kelp]

What would Draedon hire people for? That's an interesting question

[cloud ibex]

ideas for how to solve things he can't clearly

[mighty zenith]

expendable work force

[buoyant inlet]

People who have bigger experience than him in areas he didn't study

.. Or, just more brain power in general

Draedon worked with the smartest people on the world

I imagine a lot of his projects weren't done just by him alone

[sinful adder]

He probably hired humans before he had processing power way above any human

But that would be a long time ago

[buoyant inlet]

The only projects that he 100% did alone are probably the plague, calclone and exos

[forest kelp]

I completely forgor that CalClone was one of Draedon's projects

[buoyant inlet]

He talks about it in more details in draetalk

Basically he tried to replicate Cal's powers by cloning her, but the clone turned out to be normal

Which proved that cal's powers are not natural and she got them from somewhere

Later Cal broker into the lab with the clone and released it herself

After which clone was able to wield a small portion of Cal's brimstone magic

[forest kelp]

What does normal mean in this context

[cloud ibex]

not a walking superweapon presumably

[dense lynx]

Onay. So if Yharim could've recruited more allies from other Terraria mods. Which ones he would've most liekly recruited?

[buoyant inlet]

She didn't have any magic

She was just a person

[jaunty wraith]

The siblings from fargos mutant mod

[dense lynx]

I dont think.

Something tells me they only recently arrived into planet.

One option i could choose would Kari from MoR. But i dont think the timeline would make sense.

[jaunty wraith]

Here's a question I have, how would Yharim view the primordials from thorium?

[scenic yacht]

isnt lumberjack from fargos like canonically the strongest character or smth

[jaunty wraith]

I think they mean strongest as in brute strengh or lifing power

Mutant is far 💪

Stronger

Don't know why it autocorrected to emojis

[dense lynx]

Primordials seems like masters of given elements and powers.

Dream eater is being who is primordials creator/guardian/master with powers of twisting reality with it's mere presence

[jaunty wraith]

So you think in a combined calamity and thorium lore, the dream eater be connected to noxus?

[dense lynx]

I mostly think Xeroc created Primordials in my canon.

Primordials in turn created chaos biomes.

[cloud ibex]

seems like a misstep on xeroc's part doesn't seem like they planned that one particularly well

[dense lynx]

I personally think that Nebuleus was the most loyal servant of Zeratos. And she hates Xeroc for what his actions caused.

[scenic olive]

Sounds like a recipe for a disaster

Imagine a half machine half animal sentient laboratory

[cloud ibex]

doesn't need to be half animal

could be half person

that'll go better surely

[wheat walrus]

What was this channel cooking last night

[buoyant inlet]

I have the same question

We should close the kitchen's doors permanently

[cloud ibex]

i have no idea

[ruby heart]

user...

[hoary berry]

oh i think i remember what it is

my mouth is shut though

[solar wharf]

justice for my boy triangle he aint do NUN wrong

he just a real one in a fake world

[latent bolt]

What happened

[solar wharf]

altraxia posted a leak by triangle which had a huge lore development

and pusheen got very very angry? thats not really the right word

he wasnt angry but like

i cant think

[ruby heart]

https://tenor.com/view/ravioli-ravioli-back-with-the-whiteboy-smile-emotional-warning-gif-19417648

trully a moment ever

[ruby heart]

unless they are gods, he problably dont care about their existance

[latent bolt]

tbh the primordials are probably closer to the elementals (wait did yharim have beef with elementals too)

[buoyant inlet]

Yeah kinda

[cosmic zenith]

Yeah

Most importantly, because an Elemental torched his capital

[latent bolt]

fair

if the primordials (and dream eater) are closer in terms of description and power to elementals, would he have viewed them negatively as well

[solar wharf]

are elementals even sapient

or is their head just filled with

"EXPAND"

[cloud ibex]

sapient enough to do the funny ritual

[buoyant inlet]

Maybe it varies from elemental to elemental

And maybe depends on their power/presence of their domain in the world

Like, Silva is very sapient because nature is pretty much everywhere

Actually what even is brimmy's domain, what is brimstone in the context of cal lore

Is this a magical underworld material

That's also flame related

[cosmic zenith]

There's also the fact that nature is the only domain to include sapient things

[cosmic zenith]

Personally, I'd say Fire

Brimstone fire is just the flame Brimmy chose to manifest herself as and wield

[buoyant inlet]

Hmm that's interesting

So theoretically she can manifest in other types of flame

And yeah it'd make sense for her domain to be fire, since just brimstone is weirdly specific domain for an elemental

[cosmic zenith]

Not unlike other Elementals
The Sandy twins, despite being Earth, appear as sand
Cloudy, the Air Elemental, appears as cloud because honestly, it'd be hard to see her otherwise lol
Anahita is the most vanilla Elemental

[cosmic zenith]

Going by my vision of the Elementals, yes

[solar wharf]

o wait, sand elementals are actually earth elementals?

[stark basalt]

Imma need the avatar elemental

[spring helm]

Isn’t that just us after getting the Heart of the Elements?

[devout grove]

Ya lol

[cosmic zenith]

In my opinion, yes

The Earth Elemental is canonically not an actual Elemental

[stark basalt]

Isn’t earth elemental a robot

[cosmic zenith]

And "Sand" being an element is... weird

Yes, Earth Elemental is an automaton created in Azafure

[stark basalt]

Exo earth elemental needs to be a boss

Nah

[solar wharf]

omg its aido

[untold bluff]

what is the type of flame used by providence

[cloud ibex]

profaned

[real silo]

Erm it's ackhshually holy flame

[untold bluff]

then wouldn't any flame used by gods and divine creatures be defined as "holy" flames?

[tropic oak]

hello lorians

[real silo]

What other god uses fire

[untold bluff]

i'm sure that to azufre citizens, people would call brimstone elemental holy or divine

[real silo]

We have ravager but ravager's due for a rework

brimmy was referred to as matron or something

[untold bluff]

so what is necessarily special about providence's yellow flames?

[real silo]

We don't know

Besides being hotter

[cloud ibex]

auric

[real silo]

gods can't use auric silly

[untold bluff]

and surely her flames aren't the hottest, because godslayer blaze and dragonfire exist

[cloud ibex]

yea but they're flames derived from auric soul power

[real silo]

We should kill god slayer inferno

[untold bluff]

wouldn't that mean that dragonfire is the same?

[real silo]

well dragonfire is from an actual auric soul

[cloud ibex]

no dragonfire is just fire from a dragon

[untold bluff]

providence is also from an auric soul

[real silo]

while holy fire is from an auric soul mixed with three cups of lean and half a thimble of milk

[untold bluff]

i guess so

[cloud ibex]

whatever the Flame Dragon's fire was would've been Fire

[real silo]

ok true

[untold bluff]

guh

[real silo]

Dragons have fire but the fire dragon's fire is just firerer than other drgons' fires

[untold bluff]

[strong notch]

fire dragon is just hotter

[stark basalt]

What do yall think about vanilla lore?

[spring helm]

It reads like whatever random stuff just came to Redigit’s head while writing

[buoyant inlet]

Maybe yharon cheats a bit and uses the fire of the flame dragon

Like flame dragons fire was identical to yharon's, but he maybe could use it better or something

Maybe yharon can use bits of powers from other auric souls that he reincarnated ages ago

Since he doesn't really have anything rebirth-y in his fight

And rebirth doesn't look like a combat ability

[spring helm]

What did he take from the dragon of death

[solar wharf]

wouldv been cool if he actually comes back mid fight but in an incomplete form and decays after like an hour

as he isnt suppose to do that

the only time i could see rebirth in combat

literally necro armor

you die but not really for 7 seconds

but since hes the dragon of rebirth, we can do a ceaseless void where his hp

depletes over time

after death

[spring helm]

Rebirthing is a whole process so I’m not surprised he can’t do it mid battle

[solar wharf]

ye thats why you could do an incomplete and an imperfect rebirth

where he looks fucked

and is slowly dying

would also hinder his next full rebirth by like

50 years

im just throwing shit at the wall lol

as to how u could inculde his rebirth into the boss battle

[fair token]

@frozen crag for more context on Yharim

we also know that not all gods are bad

its just a fact

[frozen crag]

i assumed so

[fair token]

and some gods are bad but obtained their souls in ways that werent so bad

(Providence)

[cloud ibex]

i can't believe r/atheism moderator Yharim would lie about all gods being evil

[frozen crag]

i still don't get why they couldn't've just kept astrum deus as a god his name makes no sense now and it would've been such a cool parallel cause you go from fighting a corpse of a god to fighting the one who killed it (dog) and they're both space worms

[fair token]

Hes worshiped as a god

thats why hes named that

[tropic oak]

^

[frozen crag]

ah

who worships him

[fair token]

a lot of people

I mean

hard to not worship the giant space creature

[tropic oak]

looks at fovos

[fair token]

that eats dyuing stars

[fair token]

ok but Deus is seemingly peaceful

[graceful otter]

the only time deus is even referred to as a god is when yharim explains his title, "god of the night sky"

[frozen crag]

has astrum deus been on earth for a while and only shows up in hardmode for gameplay reasons

[fair token]

if its not infected

[tropic oak]

LO

[graceful otter]

no, astral only appears during your playthrough

[fair token]

do you have reason to think Deus was always agressive?

[frozen crag]

deus used to be the corpse of the star god who was killed by dog which created the astral infection in a similar way to how the crimson and corruption were created that's what im referring to

[graceful otter]

thats old lore

[tropic oak]

no?

i only said fovos because space creature

[fair token]

then why did you respond LO

[tropic oak]

😭😭

[frozen crag]

yeah and im sad that it's old cause i find it a lot cooler

[fair token]

well the new lore

makes a lot more sense

[tropic oak]

i think ur reading too far into me saying fovos to space creature thinking its funny

[fair token]

im not angry or anything, i was genuinely askinng

[tropic oak]

i never thought u were

[fair token]

because it looked to me like i said "Astrum Deus isnt normally agressive"

You laughed, so i was wondering why

[tropic oak]

i just think ur reading too far into it

soace creatur

[frozen crag]

i think it could work with the new theology system just have astrum deus eat an auric soul

[tropic oak]

my l od

LOVE

eugh.

[frozen crag]

i feel like making him just a space wprm removes a lot of weight the fight had

[fair token]

Auric Souls arent exactly lying around

[tropic oak]

infact i think there are very little around for that matter

[fair token]

also, Astrum Deus has existed longer than Auric Souls

probably

Astrum Deus seems to be a part of the life cycle of the universe itself

[graceful otter]

you are fighting an ancient beast that got corrupted by the same power that it, either unintentionally or not, was stopping

just because it isnt a god doesnt make the fight less cool

[fair token]

hes not just a space worm, as i just said hes like a big part of why the entire universe isnt astral infection

[tropic oak]

you are still fighting a creature from space that eats stars

[fair token]

honestly its like

[tropic oak]

i think thats p cool

[frozen crag]

it didn't stop nothing and being an ancient beast doesn't stop it from becoming the corpse of the star god to a big space worm that ate an infected star

[fair token]

the Universe is a living thing, stars are its cells, the Astral Infection is a disease, and Astrum Deus is an antibody

thats kind of what its like

lmao

[frozen crag]

i don't see the antibody analogy

astrum deus got infected like any other creature

[graceful otter]

its literally been revered for its duty since human history

[fair token]

antibodies can get infected btw

[graceful otter]

it has been revered for its sacred duty since time immemorial.

[tropic oak]

astrum deus appreciation week

[celest kettle]

Is astral infection and astral infection the debuff the same thing

[trim edge]

draedon theorises that there are multiple of them, but that happens way later in the game so it doesn't make deus underwhelming

[trim edge]

the debuff is uhhhh
actually what is the debuff supposed to be

[graceful otter]

and draedon theorises. he isnt sure himself, which is quite rare of him

[fair token]

and we know that we will hear other theories

like Permafrosts

[frozen crag]

you learn about the lore after you fight him anyway though so i don't think it matters when exactly you learn it whether good or bad

[tropic oak]

yk how things keep evolving into crabs irl

[fair token]

you dont though

[tropic oak]

take that and go to terraria but with worms

[celest kettle]

I guess gameplay purposes
Or the terrarian is not sapient

[fair token]

the information about the life cycle of stars and astrum deus' relation to it

is endgame lore

[graceful otter]

astral infection fucking blasting your mana

clearly

[graceful otter]

its not, we literally learn it in deus' bestiary entry

and the other astral monsters

[celest kettle]

Can we have more draedon yapping

[fair token]

Bestiary lore and having to kill tons of the same enemy

bestiary functionality

is so flawed man

[cosmic zenith]

In old lore, Deus didn't create the Astral Infection, Noxus did
DoG took a nibble out of Deus and allowed the Infection to consume and kill Deus

[frozen crag]

yeah and it's sacred duty gets it infected like any other creature

[frozen crag]

noxus wasn't always a thing im fairly certain

[fair token]

beucase its not actually a sacred duty, thats just how the people of Terraria view it

[cosmic zenith]

That would make him a target for Yharim, so not really possible

[cosmic zenith]

Noxus has been in the lore for a long time though, and for as long as I can remember, that was the origin of Astral Infection

[frozen crag]

yeah exactly astrum deus is lowkey a fraud

[fair token]

no lol

[cosmic zenith]

...?

[fair token]

look if oyu dont think the lore of it being basically essential to the universe's continued existence as we know it

thats fine

[frozen crag]

i remember there being an update to the lore page that talked about light and dark gods and that was when xeroc and noxus were introduced

[fair token]

but i do find that cool

[frozen crag]

it's not though you said it yourself people just think it is

[fair token]

People think its a "sacred duty"

but Astrum Deus is in fact essential

to the continued existence of the universe

in its current state

[cosmic zenith]

Yeah

[fair token]

without it the Infection would consume everything

[frozen crag]

the only example we've seen is one that got infected by the star it ate

[graceful otter]

and the bestiary tells us its been doing this one thing for who knows how long

[fair token]

the rest of the universe isnt consumed by astral infection, so that must mean something is going well for it

[graceful otter]

jesus christ imagine doing one thing for the entirety of ur life and not messing up

[trim edge]

how did people know about the astral infection before deus got infected
they would have to know for them to see deus as important right

[fair token]

(if you buy into Draedon's theory, then just ours failed)

[cosmic zenith]

As Draedon theorizes, things would go to shit if that was the only Deus

[fair token]

hearing that Draedon plans to cleanse the infection

does make me sad

Astrum Deus died when maybe it could have been saved

kinda tragic

[hushed geyser]

Draedon lazy as fuck

Needs to get off his ass

[fair token]

true!

[trim edge]

we don't kill deus

[cosmic zenith]

^

[hushed geyser]

How can an ai be so unproductive

[fair token]

what

we dont?

[cosmic zenith]

It's not clear ingame rn because Deus is due to a redesign and a proper fight end

[fair token]

thats so sick

if we dont kill it

[cosmic zenith]

But it is mentioned, in the lore item if I'm not mistaken

[graceful otter]

Thankfully, such a grandiose being that walks amongst the stars is likely not truly dead.
astrum deus yharim whisper

2nd to last line

[fair token]

i mean

okay so like

[trim edge]

yharim is an unreliable source

[fair token]

even beofre Draetalk

i thoguht that Astrum Deus was like a universal entity

with extensions of itself

[graceful otter]

ok but why does yharim liek spying on us

[fair token]

so i wrote off that line

as Yharim meaning "we only killed one aspect of it"

[cosmic zenith]

Old lore

[fair token]

no like

that was my theory

not based on old lore

[graceful otter]

theyre talking about headcanon

[cosmic zenith]

Oh, I see

[fair token]

since astrum dues isnt clear

it makes sense, Astrum Deus is one great being with many bodies to manage astral infection

so when Yharim said that i thought he meant

the greater whole

[cosmic zenith]

B'yeah
Making a higher cosmic entity just a comparatively short worm you fight before Moon Lord is a bit underwhelming

[fair token]

yes

[frozen crag]

isn't draedons theory correct since we fight multiple astrum deuses in the fight

[fair token]

thats one deus splitting in two

[graceful otter]

theyre saying that deus is just one part of it

[trim edge]

how does draedon know what we nane the mechs

[graceful otter]

like how deus splits in game

but like thousands of times

[cosmic zenith]

It's still not clear whether that'll remain in the fight

[fair token]

we have multiple towns worth of npcs, and we literally get invaded

[cosmic zenith]

Where did the other parts go?

[fair token]

I think we're basically a small nation at this point

[graceful otter]

other places in the universe, doing its duty

[fair token]

people know us

[trim edge]

does the terrarian just go around yelling what they call bosses

[cosmic zenith]

But wasn't it infected, and forced by the Infection to hurl the meteor here

[graceful otter]

no

before that

[fair token]

I mean, yeah, a headcanon always has flaws beucase they come from incomplete information

im not saying my headcanon is rock solid

i dont even buy into it anymore

Im on Draedon's theory now

[graceful otter]

junes headcanon is deus is part of a cosmic entity that split itself into multiple deus to stop the astral

[frozen crag]

i assume the terrarian has heard some of these names before and they're colloquial considering that yharim calls them by the same names

[fair token]

I was jsut saying "oh i didnt remember that line becuase in my old headcanon it meant something different"

[trim edge]

especially the twins, since draedon knows we call them retinazer and spazmatism
maybe boss spawn and defeat announcements could be interpreted as the terrarian shouting but what about them

[cosmic zenith]

Not many large-scale events happen in the world without Draedon knowing
And the player activating Hardmode and destroying Draedon's old mechs certainly would be noteworthy

[fair token]

No we name a lot of bosses

we name the Mechs for sure

[graceful otter]

the terrarian shouting out THE SPIRITS OF LIGHT AND DARK HAVE BEEN RELEASED as soon as they kill wof without knowing what it means

[civic salmon]

Oh thank god, the "it splits into two and you have to focus on one to kill it fast" is really annoying and I would be very happy to see it go (but I'm also a scrub, so, take that with a spoonful of salt)

[trim edge]

can draedon just read our minds

[frozen crag]

why did we kill wall of flesh

he was just chilling

[graceful otter]

power

[fair token]

he has scout bots

you kjnow

draedons scout bots

[frozen crag]

we're lowkey evil

[fair token]

would make a cool like

[civic salmon]

https://tenor.com/view/kill-steve-harvey-family-feud-yes-kill-gif-22934983

[fair token]

hardmode enemy

[frozen crag]

what if the terrarian is draedon

think about it

have you ever seen the terrarian and draedon in the same room before

[fair token]

yes

[frozen crag]

exactly

[civic salmon]

oooh and if you killed enough of them draedon could mention that in draetalk. "I see you've been destroying my scouts on-sight. Rest assured I can produce more as needed."

[trim edge]

maybe the terrarian writes down the bestiary and draedon is like "did this fucker just write 'skeletron prime'"

[fair token]

not really how draetalk functions

again though

draedon scout bots not withstanding

we have multiple towns worth of npcs and are worth the time for multiple armies to invade us

so the npcs probably get around (and in lore we probably have way more people under our protection)

[spring helm]

Terrarian yelling “SUPREME WITCH CALAMITAS HAS AWOKEN” and she’s like
“Why are you yelling”

[frozen crag]

why do the npcs volunteer to live with us is there really nowhere else to live

[stark basalt]

terrarian just likes yelling

[spring helm]

Yharim kinda blew up most of the world

[frozen crag]

oh

[graceful otter]

because we can provide protection

[solar wharf]

hi aido, hi popcorn

[frozen crag]

i can't 😭

[solar wharf]

hi everyone

[spring helm]

Hello

[stark basalt]

terrarian is actually tony soprano

hi duck

[graceful otter]

yea he blew up the cities not the land

[spring helm]

Kid named spawning the Destroyer in town

[graceful otter]

if anything our continent is the worst fucking place to live in

[fair token]

If Im a npc living in a crusade era world I would go live near the guy whos actively fighting against the Crusade and other monsters wreaking havoc

[civic salmon]

I love the idea of the Terrarian having both Yharim whispering in their ear and a Draedon scout bot (literally) looking over their shoulder

[fair token]

would you not

[solar wharf]

and so then permafrost does it out of a favor as we saved him, so then why calamitas?

[fair token]

its probably safer than most places, paradoxically

[civic salmon]

she is fucking traumatized and just wants a chance to live somewhere that isnt literal hell

[spring helm]

Look if some guy just built a wooden box for me to live in when most civilizations were destroyed, I’d stay too

[graceful otter]

calamitas realises she cant run from her problems forever, and has to yknow

[trim edge]

where was calamitas living before she joins us

[graceful otter]

go back in civilisation

[graceful otter]

a cave

she literally says so

[spring helm]

Minecraft

[stark basalt]

calamitas lives in the terrarians basement

[frozen crag]

if i lived in calamity id probably jump into an eocs mouth im not living in the same world as the devourer of gods

[civic salmon]

and yeah we did her a favor by beating the trauma out of her and giving her a cardboard box house

[stark basalt]

and plays mario party alone

[fair token]

also Calamitas wants to help us defeat Yharim, so she offers her services to us

to help us do that

[solar wharf]

didnt even ask her for permission, just said "im gonna join" smh

[spring helm]

Does she?

[graceful otter]

dog most likely not gonna even pay attention to you

[fair token]

i mean

why else would she help us

[spring helm]

To me it felt more like she just gave up on everything

[fair token]

we'll know for sure

[stark basalt]

calamitas needs money for mario party

[fair token]

when she gets actual dialogue

I think she wants to help us

[stark basalt]

so thats why she helps us

[spring helm]

Guess we just have to wait for the dialogue rewrite

[civic salmon]

new suggestion, ant-like distortion enemy named Avoidant. it's a void ant.

[graceful otter]

she literally does help us

[solar wharf]

we should convert platinum currency into dollars ngl

[graceful otter]

with enchantments

[spring helm]

We can actually cook

[fair token]

yes

[trim edge]

could be outdated but i guess that works for now

[solar wharf]

to deduce how rich

the terrarain is

[stuck shore]

Does Left Alone fit the lore of Brimstone Elemental if anything?

[stark basalt]

ants you say?

[solar wharf]

ants...

i love ants

[stark basalt]

i know a thing or two about ants...

[graceful otter]

i crush ants everyday

[solar wharf]

woah

[civic salmon]

I was just making a pun on avoidant/a void ant, but come to think of it Braelor is in the Distortion rn...

[solar wharf]

evil.

[fair token]

In Modern lore i view left alone as more representative of Azafure than Brimmy herself

[stark basalt]

noob is against my crusade

and idk how to feel about this

[solar wharf]

OFF WITH HER HEAD

[graceful otter]

no ants exist in britain because of me

[spring helm]

We’re not saving Braelor from the distortion, we’re saving the distortion from the infinite ants Braelor commands

[stark basalt]

nah she does cool lore stuff

[solar wharf]

true...

[graceful otter]

i do more than just lore stuff

[spring helm]

Noob can get blown up by Supernova (respectfully)

[stark basalt]

lore

[solar wharf]

aido still kills with honor!

[graceful otter]

no.

[spring helm]

Respectfully

[solar wharf]

i would get hit by a supernova if it was respectfully

[stark basalt]

i legit have nothing to discuss anymore

[spring helm]

Like I did with calamitas that one time

[solar wharf]

would a supernova even be painful

[stark basalt]

there isnt any availale lore that we havent talked about

[spring helm]

If you’re strong enough to survive it I guess

[solar wharf]

do you think noxus has ears

[stark basalt]

i cant spell

[frozen crag]

when you get multiple messages after killing a boss does the terrarian scream then sequentially or simultaneously

[spring helm]

Well we could always talk about the parts of lore that are not finished

[stuck shore]

Not visibly speaking

[stark basalt]

noxus definitely has big ears

[solar wharf]

aido is never wrong, that must be the way to spell it

dictationaries need to update

[frozen crag]

what if we just made stuff up

[solar wharf]

i like ur way of thinking

[spring helm]

Calamity fan wiki time

[frozen crag]

did you know that cnidrion is actually xeroc in disguise

[stark basalt]

gonna make the aido wiki

filled with all of my totally canon headcanons

[spring helm]

That would explain why it kicks my ass all the time

[stark basalt]

no because why is cnidrion so annoying

give me the lore reason for that one

[frozen crag]

i love cnidrion

[solar wharf]

so true

[spring helm]

It became a hater after Calamitas incinerated Ilmeris

Reasonable, but it’s still a hater

[stark basalt]

i dont feel bad for the fish people

[frozen crag]

is desert scourge a hater

[solar wharf]

ye, they lived without ants

they probably were hellspawns

[stark basalt]

i like jellyfish lady tho. she seems cool

[frozen crag]

sea ant

[solar wharf]

have you SEEN

what he did

[spring helm]

No

[stark basalt]

desert scourge smells

[spring helm]

Desert Scourge is cool

[solar wharf]

oh no

popcorn and aido disagrees...

[spring helm]

But yeah it probably does smell

[solar wharf]

idk what to do

nvm

they agree

[spring helm]

Look inside your heart

[solar wharf]

cant do that

[frozen crag]

wyd if you woke up as xeroc

[pseudo temple]

what is yharon’s favorite food?
is it chicken nuggets, or would that be cannibalism?

[solar wharf]

what time perioid

[stark basalt]

id probably xeroc all over the place

[solar wharf]

period*

[solar wharf]

DAMN

[frozen crag]

choose

[graceful otter]

bitch slap yharim and do whatever xeroc was doing before i took over their body

[stark basalt]

yharon totally eats toast

[pseudo temple]

i’d be really sad :’(

[cosmic zenith]

Yes

[frozen crag]

do you think xeroc jorks it

[stark basalt]

Vetrasyl, save us from this hell. give us a good talking point

i beg

[solar wharf]

so true

[cosmic zenith]

Just read the lore entries and find topics that are still mysterious/barely discussed

[graceful otter]

lihzahrd dynasty

[stark basalt]

wait that could be fum

[cosmic zenith]

Or speculate about incomplete/to-be-elaborated-upon plotlines

[spring helm]

Stip is canon to the game

[graceful otter]

lihzahrd dynasty

[stark basalt]

what drove them underground?

were they always there?

[spring helm]

Brb gonna get a phd in quantum physics so I can properly explain what miracle matter is

[solar wharf]

doing god's work

[solar wharf]

maybe something similar to the humans?

[civic salmon]

yeah Yharim really did the lihzahrds dirty huh

"this golem construct SUCKS its so BAD theyre such LOSERS"

like yeah I hate Golem but thats from a gameplay standpoint, Yharim's just racist