lore-discussion

[pliant ruin]

He's probably gonna be changed later anyways

Given he survives the fight canonically but ingame uhh

It dont look like that

[frigid lotus]

they should probably change the sprite so he doesn't look so much like a robot

[pliant ruin]

Kinda funny to think that out of the 4 bosses you don't kill, 3 are major lore relevant characters and the fourth is just

A space worm

[real silo]

A skrunkly

They better make AD an adorable baby borm

[spring helm]

Survives the fight (blown to smithereens)

[real silo]

Also I'd love to see an adult AD

[pliant ruin]

The terrarian dosen't kill him
Not even Yharim dislikes him
He's just chill like that

Bro has no enemies

[pliant ruin]

Tbf

[real silo]

No natural predators

[pliant ruin]

The hypothesis draedon made is

Still just a hypothesis

It could be right or wrong

[real silo]

Wdym everything he says is the truth

[pliant ruin]

hi im draedon
@pliant ruin is universe president now

[real silo]

It's them

[pliant ruin]

wow guys did u hear that

[wheat walrus]

dardone

[real silo]

John bestiary writer

[pliant ruin]

im president of universe

[real silo]

Universe like

Ennwa

[sinful adder]

Idea: the omniscient character writing the bestiary is just the zoologist, who is secretly the goddess of furries and knowledge

[jaunty wraith]

I have a theory but I do want to know one thing

Is there any connection to the jungle and dungeon?

I ask this because it's after killing plantera, The spirits released are said to flood the land... yet the dungeon by far has the most changes

[sinful adder]

That's probably just a gameplay thing, but there is one way that might work

The dungeon is between the jungle and the abyss, and the jungle is full of life, so the souls might have been looking for silva and gotten stuck in the dungeon

Plantera is apparently soul powered, and the dungeon has a lot of tormented souls, so that is a connection

[spring helm]

The dungeon is full of ghosts, not too much of a stretch to see that it would be most affected by a sudden influx of released spirits from plantera

[jaunty wraith]

Could those released spirits have fused with polterghast, explaining why polterghast behaves very simularly to plantera

[hoary berry]

maybe, i guess?

i always think of polty's similarity to plantera as just a remnant of the old mod stuff

definitely didn't arise due to plantera

[real silo]

It could be an explanation for that if you want it to be

Afaik new polter won't be plantwora though

[pliant ruin]

yeah i think new polterghast will be more of a original design iirc

polterghast is actually

like, the third oldest boss sprite in the mod, i think?

2nd is calclone and 1st is ... you know

correct me if i'm wrong though

[real silo]

what if I correct you because you're cheese

Clone looks "younger" than polter

[pliant ruin]

Polter is def one of the most dated sprites as a whole though

i'd say storm weaver. polter and calclone all are like

[real silo]

No doubt about that ye

[pliant ruin]

sprites made roughly around a similar era

signus too

those 4 are all pretty outdated

yharon is the only one thats. even more outdated

cuz he's legit the only sprite in the mod that still looks like the old pastel sprites from yore

the really glossy ones

[real silo]

yharon's is so old it's unreal

Afaik it's the only ziggums style sprite left in the mod

[pliant ruin]

He's from the same age as these

[real silo]

But I don't know much about the stuff they've made

[pliant ruin]

i'll be 100% honest i think this artstyle is actually

not bad

it has charm to it, honestly

it just

really dosen't work

for terraria

[real silo]

It has its charm

[pliant ruin]

and calamity itself already has a vastly different artstyle from terraria, but it feels alot more

''fitting" , in a way

[real silo]

The calamity style

[pliant ruin]

these actually look like they'd belong in a entirely different game, i feel

its weird coz again, cal sprites r nothing like vanilla sprites

but they don't feel like they'd be in a different game to me

[real silo]

They're good sprites

[pliant ruin]

they have some weird bits but the style itself is kind of charming

really charming actually

[real silo]

I was talking about cal sprites

[pliant ruin]

but ultimately modern sprites are fantastic so i don't mind them getting replaced + as i said they feel out of place

[pliant ruin]

oih

ye

cal sprites r great ofc

i feel like

the storm weaver polterghast era of sprites was probably my least favorite?

they didn't have that bizzare charm of the really old ones but also didn't feel as detailed and well made as new ones

[real silo]

Ye

[pliant ruin]

they were kind of in a weird middleground beetween being super detailed and kind of just vanilla

[real silo]

New vanilla sprites are pretty nice as well

Crowno sprite 🙏

[cold owl]

Before Yharim's execution and stuff with led to the Era of the Crusade. Was it still the Deific Era?

there isnt an era in between the two so I would assume it to be the Deific Era

[strong notch]

Yeah. Deific era as in era of deities when dragons were killed and gods were born

[scenic olive]

story of calamity

Era of Deities

[strong notch]

I wonder if the calamity era will end with terrarian killing Yharim

And will be called post-calamity era

[scenic olive]

there will be the dawn of the new era

[hoary berry]

The Calamity... how calamitous

[mighty zenith]

era of a cruel world

[random mulch]

yharim's theme should be called end of a cruel world tbh

[amber cedar]

age of corn

[jaunty wraith]

I can yharim being a two phased fight. The second phase similar to yharon delves into a metal gear rising inspired lyrical masterpiece.

[random mulch]

world of a world world

[random mulch]

short, relatively easy first phase, then throwing off his cloak to reveal a 200% health bar

[jaunty wraith]

He takes off his armor which somehow makes him more powerful

[scenic olive]

i have only used 1% of my full power terrarian

[random mulch]

and then he takes off his skin

he collapses and dies immediately

[scenic olive]

Revealing bees inside

[random mulch]

revealing the true final boss, vengeful queen bee

[jaunty wraith]

Suddenly it all makes sense now

[strong notch]

it would be perfect for gfb seed

yharim secretly being queen bee in disguise

[jaunty wraith]

Since Yharim likely has a very scared face from the lava

GFB will make him have the handsome Squidward face

[dense lynx]

What other mods characters Yharim could've recruited to his side?

If that was option for him.

[scenic olive]

batman

to the Yharmobile

[solar wharf]

noxus:

[random mulch]

could also work

[solar wharf]

i really love what calamity vanilla music did with the defeat of wall of flesh

the ressurection of a cruel world

[random mulch]

tale of a cruel world, ressurection of a cruel world, memory of a cruel world and end of a cruel world

[graceful otter]

.

[stark basalt]

who is strongest on lore xenoc noxus or yharim?

[graceful otter]

xeroc

[solar wharf]

the list goes like this

xeroc > fovos/noxus (either not confirmed) > yharim

[fair token]

is Wyrm stronger than Yharim

[scenic yacht]

Well can yharim swim and survive the void

[fair token]

probably if he got some modifications to his armor

[solar wharf]

no, zerartros is stronger then wyrm whos tied with yharim

[fair token]

source on that?

[solar wharf]

QnA which claims to be via dev statements

or FAQ

actually

im too lazy to look for the actual source, ask pusheen who made this iirc

[mighty zenith]

dev statements are to be taken with a pinch of salt tho

so as long as its not in-game its subject to change

[pliant ruin]

i mean

it should be kind of obvious yharim is stronger than wyrm

both from

a gameplay and narrative standpoint

like yeah it is the first of a entire lineage of non-auric dragons but like. that's not gonna be stronger than fucking. The Main Villain who Killed Several Gods

Specially when the other ''primordial" draconic offshoot is old duke and he's. strong, of course, but nowhere yharim level

and gameplay

well

eidolon wyrm is a endgame boss that isn't even fully intended to be a proper elaborate bossfight

yharim is the literal final boss

[strong notch]

The Wyrm should also be weaker than literal auric dragon

Yharon

[pliant ruin]

Tbh

[cloud ibex]

ok but could yharon get my snowfox to stop clipping into the wall so i can get it back without reloading my save or making a new one

[pliant ruin]

yharon isn't your average auric dragon

He's the 2nd strongest

iirc

average auric dragons would be roughly around the strenght of like

normal eidolon wyrms

[mighty zenith]

off topic media

remove this user's lungs please..

[cloud ibex]

too late

i have none

[mighty zenith]

give him lungs then remove them

[strong notch]

Yharon in desperation should let Yharim merge with his soul tbh

[solar wharf]

wyrm is stronger if we go off of FAQ doc

which ig could make little sense

but maybe if u inculde silva's power

then maybe not

[frank wasp]

yo, so in the new draedon lore he refers to the mechanical trio in the same way as the exo mech trio using letters instead of names but I'm wondering, what does the H in their techincal names mean? like with the Exo mechs the X just means Exomechanical but what would the H be?

[graceful otter]

hallowed

[frank wasp]

why did I not think of that

ok thank you

[thorn drift]

Does draedon play ultrakill?

[graceful otter]

yes

[thorn drift]

nice

[crimson finch]

Can Draedon even get off of his goofy ass rocket chair?

[thorn drift]

Yeah

id wager he isn't even on his goofy ahh rocket chair most of the time

what we see during the exo mech fight is only an old recon body

[crimson finch]

Why does he have those stupid bug legs

Looks like a cricket

Anyways

[hushed geyser]

https://tenor.com/view/buzz-lightyear-gif-21327280

Never heard that one before

[cloud ibex]

he has an animation of him getting up i think

[hoary berry]

https://tenor.com/view/draedon-live-reaction-gif-26912435

yeah the recon body can get up

[supple maple]

Could someone summarize the lore of calamity?

[trim edge]

lore doc pinned in this channel

[cosmic zenith]

Dragonpilled warrior commits heinous warcrimes to end the worship of "unethically-ascended" Gods

[hoary berry]

dragonpilled warrior is now my favourite way to refer to yharim

[cloud ibex]

r/atheism moderator and dragon fan turns to genocide and war crimes because he didn't like being told what to do and listened to Literally The Most Biased Dragon In Existence call all gods dickheads

[random mulch]

dragonpilled nutcase might be more accurate

[novel tulip]

Cripple gets revenge on people for eating his chicken nuggets with help from girl with daddy issues, a pro gamer and a gummy worm while big glowy guy watches in background

[dense quiver]

sorry man, i got no clue

[trim edge]

vegan activist commits atrocities against dragon soul consumers

[civic salmon]

Draconic Era. Dragons have super special souls, use them to rule world. May or may not have been benevolent rulers. Moon Lord shows up and kicks their asses, gets sealed in the Moon. Lead dragon is dying, his faithful servant nabs his soul and becomes a God. Everyone else goes "hey I want to be a God" and start hunting the dragons.
Deific era. Some Gods are evil and others seem OK. Some Gods holding the egg of the last dragon decide to give its soul to Mr Antitheist. Antitheist says no. Gets chucked into lava. Dragon hatches, saves him from lava, they begin crusade to kill all the gods in revenge for them killing the dragons.
Crusade Era. Antitheist and hot chicken dragon get help from emo firebender, three-star winter costume Gandalf, science AI with a gamer chair, and Lunatic Cultist. They kill most of the gods but make a fuckin mess of it. Team breaks up because Antitheist is a dick. Everyone has trauma.
Current Era. World is a mess. Terrarian shows up. Will probably not clean up mess but its not like it could get any worse.

[graceful otter]

lead dragon

dragon of lead

[civic salmon]

lead balloon

[strong notch]

why even make a recon body if he only cares about chair

[hoary berry]

what

[pliant ruin]

the dragon of

[strong notch]

there should be dialogue option with him about his recon bodies honestly

[pliant ruin]

the

the dragon

the drago nof

[hoary berry]

drago nof

[pliant ruin]

the dragon of

kissing . Girls

[graceful otter]

ok i agree with yharim then

whoever killed the dragon of kissing girls deserves ultimate death

[earnest flare]

fun fact: progression order is canon (with the exception of ravager, who is post-prov)

[solar wharf]

polterghast is > provi?

[graceful otter]

yes

[solar wharf]

how about kissing men :((

is there a dragon for that

[graceful otter]

mustve been the god

KILL EM!!!!

[solar wharf]

LMAO

NO

PROTECT HIM

or her

[graceful otter]

THEY TOOK THE DRAGON OF KISSING GIRLS AWAY

[solar wharf]

WE MADE IT BETTER!!!

[graceful otter]

DEATH IS THEIR PUNISHMENT!!!!!

[graceful otter]

NUH UH

[solar wharf]

YUH UH

[graceful otter]

GIRLS

[cloud ibex]

what if whoever killed them was also a girl and did a perfect ascension

[solar wharf]

KISSING BOYS IS SO MUCH BETTER

[graceful otter]

YOURE WRONG

[pliant ruin]

the

[graceful otter]

oh ok nvm

[earnest flare]

yall kiss?

[pliant ruin]

the god

[solar wharf]

YOURE WRONG

[pliant ruin]

the god of

fo

[graceful otter]

god of kissing girls is good

[pliant ruin]

girl

[civic salmon]

they should get along

please think of the bisexuals

[graceful otter]

FUCK YHARIM HE TRIED TO KILL THE GOD OF KISSING GIRLS!!!!!

BURN HIM AT THE STAKE

[pliant ruin]

this is like watching the civil war of lesbians against gays

[civic salmon]

also where is the god of kissing enbies

[solar wharf]

OUTCASTS

[solar wharf]

LMAO

[cloud ibex]

i'm like switzerland

[earnest flare]

guys i think boob is a lesbian

[cloud ibex]

just watching from the sidelines

[civic salmon]

me too lol im ace

[pliant ruin]

that's a 3rd party
neither god nor dragon. some secret third thing

[graceful otter]

elemental or distortion

[pliant ruin]

like

elemental

ye

[cloud ibex]

neither boy nor girl, but a third, more sinister thing

[civic salmon]

This actually leads into a question I kinda had

[pliant ruin]

i'm also ace

but like ace in a lesbian way

(im ace lesbian

[civic salmon]

poggers

[cloud ibex]

that works

[earnest flare]

i am aroace

[solar wharf]

im outright gay :3

[cloud ibex]

ace like one piece luffy brother....................

[pliant ruin]

lore chat 🔥

[civic salmon]

Anyways my question was, what's the difference between hardmode "Souls" and "Essence" (other than one being from vanilla and one being from clam)

[pliant ruin]

I'm not sure if Essence is even really, ''canon" or at the very least lore relevant

[graceful otter]

uhhhh

[pliant ruin]

It seems just like a funny crafting material

We have like, 0 statements on it

[graceful otter]

maybe essence is just the power itself

[civic salmon]

They both drop from living beings, they both represent anything from abstract concepts ("might" "havoc") to basic physical things ("flight" "sunlight")

[graceful otter]

while the soul also contains the thoughts n shit

[pliant ruin]

It's probably canon i think, but i feel like they're like, not really relevant? They have not been expanded on at all, they probably would have a simple explanation

But also

[solar wharf]

it would be better and make more sense if it was souls of havoc sunlight etc, but u actually break them down INTO esscenes

[pliant ruin]

maybe they're actually super important and we just don't know yet

[civic salmon]

The one difference I can think of is that Light and Night of course come ultimately from a decaying god

[civic salmon]

This is a world where a significant amount of power comes ultimately from Auric Souls

I a m 100% on board the "what is up with souls" train

[pliant ruin]

The souls probably have some sort of relevance

I'm just not sure on the

essences

havoc sunlight etc

[graceful otter]

maybe essences are from elementals holy shit ice elemental is real

[pliant ruin]

I think they could really just be explained as maybe remaints of magic?

I mean

[hoary berry]

anahita during ice ages

[pliant ruin]

havoc is dropped from crags guys

[graceful otter]

nuh uh

[pliant ruin]

which seem to derive from occult magics most of the time, either brimstone magic or necromantic magic

[graceful otter]

phgoose do u know of the sisters of aqua

[solar wharf]

wait wasnt the tundra actually a cold ocean?

this would make sense no?

[pliant ruin]

eleum is from ice biome guys, which

permafrost made a good chunk of them and the area itself is imbued with permafrosts magic to a extent

[hoary berry]

can't say i do

[pliant ruin]

sunlight.... idk lol

[civic salmon]

Actually wait, this might make sense: Light and Night come ultimately from the decaying Gods' soul, Flight comes from Wyverns who are related to dragons and so probably have strong souls, and of course Might/Sight/Fright are the amalgamated souls of Yharim's forces

[hoary berry]

heard the term, don't know anything about them

[civic salmon]

And yeah the essences are just the raw power or magic or whatever

[pliant ruin]

All of the essences come from enemies generally tied to magic (Crags, Ice)

Except the sunlight ones

they just fly. i guess.

[graceful otter]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/10WlzaUnUmyEgjtpZRXHWq3sOg6rx-BqURHQ4uG5nxoY/edit#heading=h.5y1b153kwlzp

READ

or else

[hoary berry]

i remember this doc

i've looked at it or something similar before

[solar wharf]

FLIGHT IS ONLY FOR MAGIC!!!

[pliant ruin]

Essence of sunlight seems to be related to

sky, light, and storm creatures

[solar wharf]

also, is silva armor the same as braelors or?

the one the player has

[graceful otter]

an imitation

[solar wharf]

does this imply, braelors armor has dragonfolly feathers or?

[civic salmon]

Braelor is Silva's champion so his is uhhh probably better

[pliant ruin]

Maybe you could make a point to primordial light since that seems to be a generally magic thing but
What about. sky and storm. and also like. none of the enemies that drop it seem to have any primordial light shenanigans going on

[graceful otter]

no

[pliant ruin]

I think Silva armor is being reworked

It's gonna. stay Silva Armor

but gonna change appearance and some other things to fit lore better iirc

[graceful otter]

i just said its an imitation how would that imply it uses effulgent feathers

[pliant ruin]

cuz

silva armor

uses feathers rn

for some reason lolç

[graceful otter]

yea its an imitation its not a 1:1 recreation

[civic salmon]

I mean, Essence of Sunlight could have captured a tiny bit of the power of the Primordial Light, but it doesn't have any of Xeroc's actual soul in it so it's not a Soul of ___

[pliant ruin]

Ye but its just

[graceful otter]

it just looks like their armour

[pliant ruin]

the enemies don't really seem to fit that idea

[graceful otter]

yea like

a visual imitation

[civic salmon]

Yeah it should really be Essence of Atmos or something like that

[graceful otter]

[hoary berry]

yeah this is very cool

[solar wharf]

im not saying ur wrong, im saying that this could imply that braelors armor uses dragonfolly feathers

[graceful otter]

sunskaters can inflict holy flames, the same debuff eol uses during day

[hoary berry]

it is now bookmarked

[pliant ruin]

You could make a argument for like, one or two of these to be tied to primordial light

[solar wharf]

sunbeam fish.

[pliant ruin]

Sunskaters. sure. i can . i can live with that. Golem??? Maybe???? Probably not but like???

[hoary berry]

also we don't know much of anything about the sky civilisation, do we? maybe this links to that

[pliant ruin]

Yeah maybe it's gotta do with the sky civilization

it's gonna be expanded on later and they'd probably use magic in some way

[civic salmon]

Actually if the Aerie was up in the sky then that might make sense 🤔

[pliant ruin]

Assuming that my idea about all essences being tied to areas of the world that have permeating magic on the atmosphere

Ice biome w/ Permafrost's ice magic

[civic salmon]

still got some of that big boy Zeratros juice blowing around

[pliant ruin]

Crags w/ all of the Necromantic/Brimstone magic left by Calamitas's fight with Brimmy

Sky biome could have something to do with the monks and dragons

[solar wharf]

doesnt that imply core of calamity is a combination of all of the above

[pliant ruin]

core of calamity is truly calamitous

it'd be a bunch of different magic types fused together yeah

[solar wharf]

science and magic going hand to hand...

[pliant ruin]

the ectoplasm would act as ''conduit'' in some way but don't ask me how

[civic salmon]

Oh hey wait a minute, at one point (I think in Draetalk?) the question is raised of why the dragons didn't shelter at the Aerie once they started being hunted. But wouldn't Xeroc have been there? They probably wanted to stay the hell away from him.

[pliant ruin]

They'd probably be too unstable if you just tried to. 🫸 🫷 them together

so the ectoplasm probably is there so they don't explode or something

[solar wharf]

probably

[pliant ruin]

Tbh maybe? But also it'd feel strange

Some of the dragons, sure

But would all of them really be that afraid of him?

[tall delta]

Isnt miracle matter kinda a living metal

[solar wharf]

i'd assume dragons would actually try to fiercefully fight xeroc

to defend the aerie

no?

[hoary berry]

it's something

[pliant ruin]

Some probalby would

I think

assuming all dragons would follow the same exact mentality

Is going against the principals of calamity lore itself

[wheat walrus]

Calverse VS My very real and existing glock

[pliant ruin]

Your origins don't determine who you are, its your actions what do etc

I imagine dragons would

have different reactions

[hoary berry]

not to mention, we don't even know if xeroc actually betrayed zeratros or not, and i doubt all of the dragons would assume the worst

[pliant ruin]

some would be scared, some would hate xeroc, maybe some would be neutral and some would be like. hey that guys got a point (assuming my entire idea that zeratros did it willingly even more so)

[graceful otter]

why have a "keepsake" of a place youre still in

[civic salmon]

Well presumably Xeroc left after a while

I dunno, it was just a thought

[pliant ruin]

I think

some of the dragons probalby would stay to figh him (and fail)

some would leave in fear

[civic salmon]

Maybe once the news broke of the ascension everyone who wanted to hunt dragons beelined for the Aerie

[pliant ruin]

but i don't think they as a whole would do either of those

[graceful otter]

and yet, draedon did not find a single person who knew of its true location

[civic salmon]

True

[hoary berry]

depends on if the aerie has always been concealed or not ig

[pliant ruin]

I think there's probably some really intricate and crazy lore drop that will finally tell us why the dragons left the aerie later

Doubt there'd be much of a way to tell rn

Maybe it'd have something to do with what fovos seemingly did to Zeratros

[solar wharf]

i mean, what if the aerie were corrupted with fovos powers or something along these lines

hence why zeratros was dying

[pliant ruin]

It could be that

[solar wharf]

and wouldnt come back

[pliant ruin]

Maybe that's why all the dragons left, it might've lost it's source of power or was corrupted in some form

[hoary berry]

i assumed he wouldn't come back because yharon was in the process of rebirth

[pliant ruin]

Would also tie in with the whole

do Dragons power the Aerie or does the Aerie power the Dragons thing

[hoary berry]

and so could not help other dragons rebirth

[hoary berry]

this is a question i really want an answer to

[pliant ruin]

Though if it was the case, there'd probably need to be some explanation on how the dragons retained their powers, seemingly

Though tbf

the only dragon we actually se

is Yharon

[solar wharf]

i wonder if yharon was a tyrant before the genocide

or maybe like an asshole

[pliant ruin]

and he is the like, dragon of rebirth so maybe he'd be a exception? But even then, nothing seems to imply the dragons that were hunted had lost their powers

[solar wharf]

maybe not as much as a tyrant

[pliant ruin]

I mean, sure

[solar wharf]

just not a very nice dragon

[pliant ruin]

they ogt hunted by humans and other weaker beings

But they still were strong

Though maybe they'd have their powers weakened. I don't know lol

just a idea

[pliant ruin]

Xeroc seems to have been ''old friends'' with Yharon, according to his dialogue

[solar wharf]

yharon didnt like draedon, even tho draedon is very lovable

he must have been an asshole

[pliant ruin]

Make of that what you will tbh. Yharon was actually ok in the past? Yharon was always a hater and Xeroc is actually also a hater? Idk.

I personally think it probalby implies that Yharon was probably not that bad in the past

Probably a bit of a jerk i feel, but still atleast Normal enough where Xeroc would call him a ''Old friend". Admittedly we don't know much about Xeroc but he dosen't seem like a particularly bad guy, but who knows

He seems more neutral than anything right now, or maybe like.

[solar wharf]

so he just broke

right once he realized

[pliant ruin]

Neutral but with a ''higher purpose", if that makes sense

[solar wharf]

hes family uhm

you know

[pliant ruin]

hey yharon

everyone youve ever loved is dead

and the dragon of dehodorant. we know you didnt love that one nobody did

[solar wharf]

maybe thats why he didnt go insane

"everyone died BUTTT that inculdes dragon of dehordorant, nothing is that bad"

[pliant ruin]

dragon of dehodorant is my new fanmade calamity oc

the dragon everyone fucking hates

every other dragon: hanging out at the aerie
random dragon goes up to yharon: hey uh
yharon: whats up
random dragon: he died again
yharon: who? everyone's here i don't kn- ohm y fucking god it's him again isn't it
random dragon: yeah
yharon: do i really have to bring him back this is the 26th this month. we keep telling him to not try killing people for no reason but he keeps doing it and gets killed by some random farmer with a pitchfork. like dude your domain is fucking dehodorant waht are you gonna do make them smell good

[solar wharf]

LMAO

[hoary berry]

well, deodorant does count as a weapon in my school's policy

[pliant ruin]

yharim: EVERY GOD SHALL BE SLAIN! DRAGONS SHALL BE AVENGED!

[hoary berry]

so

[pliant ruin]

yharom whispers on his ear

[hoary berry]

more lethal than it seems, methinks

[pliant ruin]

yharim, very quietly: wait really? oh god. oh GOD. oh okay then

yharim, again: EVERY GOD SHALL BE SLAIN! DRAGONS SHALL BE AVENGED! EXCEPT THE DRAGON OF DEHODORANT, WHOEVER WAS THE GOD WHO KILLED THAT ONE, THANK YOU, YOU GET TO LIVE. IF NOBODY CONSUMED HIS SOUL YET PLEASE DO SO.

[hoary berry]

but what if the domain remains unchanged

and the horrid legacy of that foul beast is perpetuated

[glacial rampart]

Yharim: I wonder who killed the dragon of dehodorant.

Terry Crews:

[halcyon dust]

Dragon named Old Spice

[neat tinsel]

how can a dragon of deodorant be a foul beast

[hoary berry]

epic mouse drawing skills

[crimson finch]

Tbh I would’ve taken the soul of the Deodorant Dragon and become the Hygiene God

If the dragon let me take its soul of course

I believe in consent

[glacial rampart]

the dragon of consent

"you cannot absorb my soul, i do not consent."

[hoary berry]

auric ore actually comes from the dragon of consent

you can only use it if it consents first

[crimson finch]

Beware of the Freaky Dragon

[glacial rampart]

what is the dragon used for the image of zeratros lol?

[halcyon dust]

Ascension to freakhood

[cosmic zenith]

I forgor
I made this meme quite a while ago

Lemme see if I still have the image, at least

You might be able to find the artist with image searching

[mighty zenith]

he kinda reminds me of appa

the face arrow i mean

[cosmic zenith]

This is obviously not actually Zeratros, Zeratros certainly would have wings

[hoary berry]

makes me think of a colourless version of an old sprite for a dragon i saw (from convergence i think?)

[cosmic zenith]

"The kid with a downvote on his head"

[glacial rampart]

wont stop terraria youtubers

[mighty zenith]

[cosmic zenith]

Yeah

[mighty zenith]

@ mura

new clickbait dropped

[hoary berry]

it's the primordial light curse

both xeroc and zeratros are subject to clickbait

[shut tide]

zeratros design leaked!??!?!?!

[wooden shadow]

Calamity Dev: Makes a joke
Mura: Look at this crazy leak guys

[glacial rampart]

i dont think mura is the one who does that i think its like everyone else

[wooden shadow]

I know, I'm just goofing around

[graceful otter]

kartalum?

[hoary berry]

that's the one

the sprite i saw was so cool

[graceful otter]

the goob

[rotund shore]

what is this creacher

[shut tide]

a goob

[graceful otter]

kartalum

[halcyon dust]

Did he fall in paint

[graceful otter]

he is the paint

hes the dragon of artistry

[pliant ruin]

Who cares about consent

It's the fucking dragon of dehodorant

kill him

now

everyone hates him

[pliant ruin]

real

[pliant ruin]

this guy looks so cool

[graceful otter]

he is very cool indeed

tho he wont be made real in a long time

due to reasons

[scenic olive]

does zeratros wear armor

[pliant ruin]

he wears a big hat

a cool big hat

[scenic olive]

why doesnt Yharon cover himself with auric armor so he doesnt die so easily when fighting us

are dragons that arrogant thinking their power can overwhelm their foes

is that what led them to their downfall

[mighty zenith]

i mean

isnt that basically what happened with fovos

[scenic olive]

well

the dragons was caught off guard by him

[graceful otter]

wouldnt that be really heavy

[scenic olive]

do you think Yharon would just battle us without any prep

[pliant ruin]

i feel like

this has the same problem as the other few claims earlier

[scenic olive]

isnt Auric speculated to be Weightless if youre attuned

[pliant ruin]

it goes against the principal of calamity lore itself tbh

[scenic olive]

theres a principal of calamity lore????

[pliant ruin]

dragons aren't inherently gonna all be arrogant or bad or whatever but they're also not gonna inherently gonna be good

the entire calamity nrrative

is about how

ur origin dosen't define who you are as a person

it's your actions that do

making all dragons do x thing or all gods do y thing just

goes against thatr

[hoary berry]

john calamity

[scenic olive]

calamimultiverse

[hoary berry]

he'll send you to detention, where all the old sprites go

[scenic olive]

well i guess they couldve used Auric Metal and fare somewhat better

[crimson finch]

Stinky ass

[scenic olive]

i mean if yharon was cladded in auric maybe when we kill him some of his soul fragment attunes to his armor, then we break it into auric bars to make Auric Pickaxe or smth, instead of using Uelibloom which doesnt make sense on how does it mine auric without rejection

[solar wharf]

my assumaption was uelibloom does actually get rejected

its just its so strong

it withstands it

[crimson finch]

Is Providence the Goddess of the Sun or Fire?

[solar wharf]

none

ashes

[crimson finch]

oh.

[solar wharf]

well that isnt confirmed either

[crimson finch]

That’s dumb

If it is

[solar wharf]

there isnt a confirmation domain, one of the devs just said their headcanon was ashes

so

[crimson finch]

NO WAY ASHED WINGS!!!!!

Oh ok

Moonlord is Fovos right?

[urban hedge]

Yes

[solar wharf]

yes, but we usually use that term to refer full power fovos

[crimson finch]

Oh

Not without legs

[solar wharf]

the fovos we fight is actually weakened

as he lost his legs

full powered fovos has the potential to be the strongest in terraria

the 2nd*

not counting xeroc obviously

[crimson finch]

My legs are broken my kneecaps were stolen I’m forever bound to a chaaiiirrr

[urban hedge]

imagine if in GFB, if you wore Moon Lords legs while fighting Moon Lord, and he just becomes full power Fovos

[crimson finch]

He takes your legs

Imagine moon lord with tiny terrarian legs

While you’re profusely bleeding out

[novel tulip]

is terrarian's inventory space canon?

[solar wharf]

isnt anything related to the terrarain headcanon?

i'd assume that extends to things like inventory and accesory slots

[novel tulip]

true ig

[earnest flare]

gameplay mechanic

[shut tide]

yes except for the fact they can just kill gods whenever

[scenic olive]

Terrarian lore

[shut tide]

wakes up and chooses violence

just as any sane person would

[crimson finch]

Listen if Providence consumed the soup of the Shower dragon, I wouldn’t mind her cleaning the world

Soul

[shut tide]

The shower dragon was the first to go...

[crimson finch]

No it was Zeratros

Stupid

[shut tide]

after zeratros

[cosmic zenith]

It's definitely neither

She absorbed the Auric Soul of Flame, so it's something related to but not directly Flame

[crimson finch]

Goddess of Italian Cuisine

Or being a really ugly moth thing

[random mulch]

goddess of ash ig

[supple maple]

Thanks

[supple maple]

Thank you too

[novel tulip]

but then her design would be more grayish probably

[random mulch]

i'm not the one who made providence so dont complain to me

[novel tulip]

not fire, not flame

uhhh

[hushed geyser]

Through the fire and flames

[novel tulip]

but is it just a synonym of the word flame or a seperate word?

[graceful otter]

seperate word

[cosmic zenith]

^

A different but tangential domain

[graceful otter]

we can see it with ravager and slime god

[cosmic zenith]

Like Ashes

[graceful otter]

ravager absorbed death, got sacrifices
sg absorbed gluttony, got slime

[novel tulip]

yup

[shut tide]

isnt sg still gluttony? or am i just dumb as fuck

[graceful otter]

no

[novel tulip]

goddess of profanity

[novel tulip]

It cant be light because thats xeroc right?

well xeroc is primordial light ig

incineration?

that might be too close to just flame

[civic salmon]

Honestly I think Ashes makes a lot of sense and is probably a good enough suggestion to run with unless/until we learn otherwise

She wants to unilaterally burn the world to make it pure

She wants to turn everything to ash, more or less

[cosmic zenith]

Xeroc is Light, yes

[supple thunder]

can he manipulate the speed of light and break physics

[crimson finch]

Since Moon lord is missing his legs, Would he be Called Fov cause he’s missing the other half?

[frozen crag]

chat what are auric souls i haven't read up on the lore in so long 😭

[barren sonnet]

souls of dragons

the auric souls were the souls of dragons that allowed them to have great power over certain domains, such as light, death, gluttony, and more.

[graceful otter]

a special type of soul the auric dragons had

[barren sonnet]

people occasionally used to consume the auric souls of the dragons, becoming gods

[frozen crag]

is the terrarian an incarnation of xeroc cause i remember the wiki saying that a while ago

[graceful otter]

no

the wiki doesnt say anything about that

[halcyon dust]

You’re prob reading the fandom wiki

[frigid ibex]

Yeah, only trust the wiki.gg one.

I assume that the antlions in the desert and underground desert are an invasive species that simply moved into the incinerated Ilmeris and fed on the scraps of whatever remained above the Sunken Sea?

[spring helm]

not just primordial but all light?

[frigid ibex]

It do be like that.

[supple thunder]

guys i heard that fovos’s legs grew an upper body and turned into the player???

[wheat walrus]

[supple thunder]

source: the drugs i took while playing

[frigid ibex]

Source: It was revealed to me in a dream.

[spring helm]

moon lord legs canon??

[crimson finch]

The fact that moon lord has tentacles for legs is upsetting

[frigid ibex]

Plot Twist: Noxus is just Fovos's legs seeking revenge.

[spring helm]

well he does have an octopus(ish) head

[crimson finch]

Nah Noxus is Fovos’ kidney stone that got removed cause the has no lower half

Wait

[frigid ibex]

Double Plot Twist!

[crimson finch]

What if the reason Fovos attacked the Dragons was because he either had to pass an absolutely brutal kidney stone or had to take a huge dump

And Zeratros was gatekeeping the Auric Throne (Auric Toilet)

[supple thunder]

it was for customers only and he forgot his wallet

[crimson finch]

Awesome

[glacial rampart]

holy shit my sides hurt 😭

[crimson finch]

From laughing?

Or do you need medical attention

[supple thunder]

i think they got an entropic/godless kidney stone

[crimson finch]

I build circuits not fix broken hips

[glacial rampart]

yes

[crimson finch]

Yay!!!

Good cause unless you’re made of IC chips, wires, capacitors & resistors, we’d have a medical emergency

[fierce pagoda]

What if we Dreadon made a mind control machine and gave it to Yharim during the crusades, would he have succedded then? or accomplished more?

[solar wharf]

yharim wouldv said "aw hell naw"

yharim is a genocidal mf, but he really despises slavery of his own people

[fierce pagoda]

So he wouldnt resort to using it on Calamitas and permafrost?

[solar wharf]

maybe if we were talking about worshippers? idk

[solar wharf]

probably not

i wouldnt call what yharim did to calamitas manipulation as much as it was him giving misinformation

yharim did unironically believe hes in the right

so he thought he was actually doing justice by making calamitas do this

[fierce pagoda]

What a goober

[solar wharf]

and making calamitas believe this

so if that were to be true, he probably still have morals

they are just twisted

so mind control to him might have been a no no

[fierce pagoda]

do you think Dreadon could recreate the memory erasing stick from men in black

[solar wharf]

idk

with enough time def

but in a specific set amount of time

idk

[cold owl]

Did Yharon die during the battle with Fovos, or are we not certain?

[fierce pagoda]

what if he made it and used it on people, what would he do

[solar wharf]

we arent certain

i mean i'd assume he did

actually maybe not

zeratros was actually dying after the fight of fovos, he was gonna go forever

so fovos did something

that made reincarnation impossible

[fierce pagoda]

Yharon must have died at some point

[solar wharf]

which would imply if he did the same to yharon

yharon might not be able to come back

[fierce pagoda]

for him to be an egg during Yharim's asceniion ritual

[cold owl]

He was gonna die forever maybe cuz Fovos killed Yharon and Yharon is the key to rebirth.

[fierce pagoda]

which he denied

[solar wharf]

so then why is yharon back?

[cold owl]

Yharon would come back, but he was dead at the time Zeratros needed him maybe

[solar wharf]

auric souls dont expire tho

or i'd assume so

otherwise it wouldnt make much sense

as auric souls are literally connected to domains

if auric souls can expire, why not auric bars?

[graceful otter]

we know souls can stay in the world after they die

so why was zeratros going to die permanently

[wheat walrus]

cause of the soulrot

he watched too much skibidi auric toilet because Fovos forced him to

and that gave him soulrot

[crimson finch]

Yharim literally “fired” Draedon because he Mechanized the Queen Bees

He is very against slavery

[supple thunder]

not enough of a sigma looksmaxxing rizzler

[fierce pagoda]

I felt that its not beyond Yharim to go against his own priciples if it benefits him

[graceful otter]

but

its not

[fierce pagoda]

he just kinda feels like that kinda guy

[wheat walrus]

[graceful otter]

yharim is extremely principled

[glacial rampart]

no he is very much not

[crimson finch]

No

[graceful otter]

principilled you might say

[fierce pagoda]

alright alright i got it

[solar wharf]

even tho i dont agree with colgator, theres too many no

so

YES

[supple thunder]

too sussy ohio

[cold owl]

Maybe Zeratros was relinquishing his power cuz he knew Yharon would eventually return from the dead after a long time and be able to rebirth him eventually? "When a Dragon is laid to rest on the Aerie, its powers are relinquished so they may one day return."

[wheat walrus]

I should not have started this

[crimson finch]

He fell from grace when he put the bodies in the dungeon and let the Space worm take control but other than that he’s very disciplined

[glacial rampart]

thats not how it works

[glacial rampart]

he fell from grace when he

committed genocide

[graceful otter]

It is this sort of ghastly, forceful exertion of control over the unwilling that led me down my path.
THIS LINE IN CRABULON LORE ITEM IS IMPORTANT I PROMISE

[cold owl]

explain

[solar wharf]

he fell from grace when he befriended yharon....

[supple thunder]

skeebeedee

[crimson finch]

Pshh all leaders did that

[crimson finch]

So he fell from grace when he almost got killed for not wanting to kill a baby dragon?

Awesome sauce

🤙

[solar wharf]

the same baby dragon that wanted to kill everyone....

[real silo]

He fell from grace when he was born

Because he's an EVIL creature

absolutely vile

[crimson finch]

Yharim Bad!!!

[fierce pagoda]

Ngl if i was Yharim i would have munched on that Yharon auric soul soup

[real silo]

There's a reason people call him the bad auric man

[fierce pagoda]

mmm😋

[solar wharf]

my ass wouldnt have just said yes, i would COOKED UP that auric soul

[real silo]

Auric cereal

[crimson finch]

The Tyrant behind the Slaughter

[solar wharf]

aint eating that shit raw

[supple thunder]

who calls him that

[fierce pagoda]

If I was Yharim I would have succeeded in the Crusades btw

[real silo]

People

Smh..

[supple thunder]

yea me too tbh

[graceful otter]

final line of crabulons lore item is vital to yharims character and i will personally fight anyone who disagrees with me

[supple thunder]

right mb

[crimson finch]

If I was Yharim I would’ve made slime god more powerful tbh

[fierce pagoda]

bro imagine Crabulon soup!

that shit would be fire

[crimson finch]

You would die

[glacial rampart]

no i think he succeeded

[fierce pagoda]

worth it

[crimson finch]

That’s like eating lead pie

And there’s no crab meat

It was eaten by the shrooms

[fierce pagoda]

woah dude, you dont have to sell it to me even more

[crimson finch]

That’s like eating an eggshell instead of the egg

Uranium cookies

[fierce pagoda]

crunchy😋

[solar wharf]

but

[crimson finch]

[solar wharf]

silva and xeroc

are still alive

he...

FAILED!!!!!

[crimson finch]

Siivagunner

Oh yeah

[solar wharf]

i wont be surprised if there were more gods alive in other continents

he probably missed more than just those 2

well he didnt miss silva

[glacial rampart]

slime god

[solar wharf]

ye we

finished that job

[crimson finch]

The Siivagunner remix of 1NF3S+@+10N

[cold owl]

Cuz we know yharon was key to the rebirth of Dragons, hense the dragon of rebirth and Yharim does state Yharon may yet return in his lore item after the Terrarian kills him. and from the quote "When a Dragon is laid to rest on the Aerie, its powers are relinquished so they may one day return." Makes me think the Dragons relinquish their powers so Yharon may revive them in some way?

[solar wharf]

i dont think yharim gives a fuck who kills the gods

he just wants them gone

[cold owl]

If i am wrong tho pls tell me

[solar wharf]

so us doing it is already him winning

the issue is xeroc and silva

which the player cannot defeat

[glacial rampart]

oh

yes

i didnt realize you were just

stating what we know already

[cold owl]

oh alr its all good

[fierce pagoda]

yes we can, by eating them

what kind of fruit would silva taste like

or plant

[solar wharf]

ye but its confirmed that zeratros didnt relinquish his power

he was losing it

[fierce pagoda]

maybe like algea or something now currently

[solar wharf]

unless we toss this to

"yharim being an idiot"

exusce

which ig is possible

[fierce pagoda]

Zeratros soul was eaten by Xeroc

so Yharon cant rebirth him

Xeroc is so humble btw, he says in bossrush that implied Yharim is the only mortal that made him doubt his own strength

[cold owl]

usually Yharon would be there to revive them eventually, but cuz Yharon died somehow, He might not be there to revive Zeratros on time or smth before he is totally gone maybe and thats why Zeratros is at threat of dying for good?

[fierce pagoda]

but we know Xeroc would onetap him

[solar wharf]

ye but that implies auric souls expire which i doubt?

[graceful otter]

_ _

[solar wharf]

o

yea

so it couldnt be that

either yharim is lying/wrong

OR

fovos be freaky

[cold owl]

I think its more Zeratros would die and not the soul. Him losing his power might just mean he is getting weaker and closer to death.

[fierce pagoda]

while were on the subject, what does dragon meat taste like?

[solar wharf]

"it seemed his power, along with his life, would be lost forever"

[fierce pagoda]

you think it differs from dragon to dragon?

[solar wharf]

his power wouldnt be lost forever if it can reincarnate

[graceful otter]

yharim talks of zeratros' life and his power as seperate things

[solar wharf]

that too

he isnt mentioning them as one

and even if he was just talking about his life, he can still reincarnate, why would his life be lost forever

as stated in that lore

it would either be yharim just being an idiot and/or overdramatic, or fovos just has something special about him

[cold owl]

He woudnt be able to without Yharon around so my guess is that he temporarally dead at the time Zeratros was injured

[fierce pagoda]

I personally dont subscribe to the idea that Dragon meat tastes like chicken

[solar wharf]

ye but it wouldnt be lost forever

it just would be lost momentarily

as yharon can just come back and revive him

and souls do stay in our world

they dont expire

[fierce pagoda]

in fact, i feel like dragon meat would be incomparable to any kind of meat we would be familiar with. I mean, it's Dragon!

it would taste like Dragon would!

something we have never even been able to comprehend how it tastes

[glacial rampart]

delicious in dungeon

[crimson finch]

You like dragons huh?

[fierce pagoda]

You can't say you never wondered how fantastical beasts taste

[cold owl]

Whatever was causing Zeratros to fade away, Yharon would probably not revive to save him in time since it did take like until the Crusade for him to come back. As a result, Zeratros would eventually fade away completely, with his power and life disappearing forever before Yharon could intervene.

[solar wharf]

again, auric souls stay in our world unless consumed

it wasnt gonna go away just like that

fovos had to have done something

or yharims lying

[cold owl]

Ik but from the quote "It seemed his power, along with his life, would be lost forever." probably implies somehow someone or something did something to make it happen.

[graceful otter]

The Gods thought him culled with the rest of his kind, but he returned as an egg.
the gods were involved in yharons previous death, which means it does not take a thousand years for him to be brought back

[solar wharf]

ye thats what im saying

[graceful otter]

if you want dev statements to prove how long his rebirth takes, its a decade

[solar wharf]

what im trying to say is that

yharon couldnt have died by fovos because he wouldv suffered the same as zeratros

unless it wasnt fovos who did that

or fovos can only do this in specific conditions

etc

[solar wharf]

wait so he died and didnt have his auric soul consumed?

and instead was waiting for his rebirth?

[cold owl]

I don't understand why the Gods didn't do what Providence did. They could have killed the Dragon and chosen someone to consume its soul. Instead, they just let the soul be?

[real silo]

The gods obtained his egg which has his auric soul

And they waited for yharim to ascend using it

[cold owl]

The problem with that is that Providence killed the Dragon of Flame and they consumed the soul immediately. Why didn't the Gods do the same instead of waiting?

[spare pier]

...Or maybe Yharon has too great of a control over his Soul and cannot be absorbed after death due to that

[real silo]

Stop leaking reb

[real silo]

Because they wanted yharim to ascend with it?

[solar wharf]

so yharon is just bound to exist as the last dragon if that was the case

thats fucking sad

[civic salmon]

We don't know why the Gods who had Yharon's egg didn't take his Soul for themselves. We know that taking two Auric Souls yourself makes you weaker, but we don't know their exact motivations for putting up Yharim as God-King.

[spare pier]

It's just my headcanon

[solar wharf]

but im gonna assume this isnt confirmation

ye

[civic salmon]

basically Doctor Who

[spare pier]

I mean, Yharon is literally the reason every Dragon can rebirth

This inherently gives him control over other Dragon's Souls

[civic salmon]

actually very Doctor Who come to think of it

[spare pier]

Why wouldn't he be able to control his own to just escape after he died?

[real silo]

Ok but what about the dragon of souls does he just have no job..

[civic salmon]

I wonder if Yharon was the first dragon to obtain an Auric Soul

[cold owl]

I did think of that. Maybe he was immune because, unless weakened like Zeratros or in the process of rebirthing, he cannot be consumed...

[civic salmon]

Do we know what Auric is anyway? What's the connection between the metal stuff and the dragons' souls?

[graceful otter]

well the dragons can use auric with no problem for some reason

_ _

welp thats all the info we got

[civic salmon]

Yeah, that's it

[forest knot]

An opera singer listened to “blood coagulant” and said it sounded like “boiling blood”

[cosmic zenith]

Maybe because they were Gods and absorbing more than one soul is logically a bad idea...?

That's about as much as you can guess from existing information

[crimson finch]

Is it like Devil Fruits from One Piece?

Eat another and you’ll just die?

[supple thunder]

yes that’s why silva is trapped in the abyss

she can’t swim out

[slender ingot]

I think she's too destroyed

[dusk sluice]

Is the tyrant (the guy whos talking in all the soul desc) a dragon?

[earnest flare]

yharim is infact not a dragon

[dusk sluice]

can you tell me what he means when in the Awakening item he says "These wings... how long has it been since I was a hero worthy of their name?"

[earnest flare]

i have no damn clue

[dusk sluice]

His first line is the dragons tomb so I thought he was referring to dragon wings

[earnest flare]

the awakening item is fucking weird

[clear vessel]

I always just kind of assumed he was looking at Zeratros’ corpse

[earnest flare]

do dragons leave corpses that last 800 years tho?

because yharon's gore sprites disappear after seconds

[dusk sluice]

At the start of the description yharim wakes up (presumably in "The Dragons Tomb") and then he talks about wings (presumably they are his since he mentions his worth to them) and they have a special name.

i rlly wanna know what wings hes talkin about

Are they an item he acquired or did he have them from the start?

[earnest flare]

him waking up? probably not
the dragons tomb? close, tis called the aerie
wings? i have no damn clue but they are NOT his, yharim's design explicitly features boosters on his back

[dusk sluice]

I messed up on the waking up part I meant blinking lol

[earnest flare]

blinking is perfectly normal

[dusk sluice]

He might have blinked for a little to long

[scenic olive]

Its probably in Aerie, since thats where most of their Souls return

[dusk sluice]

So does the Tomb of the dragons = Aerie?

[scenic olive]

Not 100%

It Might be In Aerie

[dusk sluice]

The only time i remember Aerie being mentioned is "The Dragon Aerie". is Aerie a dragon?

[scenic olive]

its a floating island

where the dragons live

[dusk sluice]

So its like a haven for dragons

[glacial rampart]

i think the wings are metaphorical

like how fallen angels are depicted as having one wing

yharim sees himself as a fallen hero

[earnest flare]

of course the wings are metaphorical

[scenic olive]

well it used to be the place where you could find dragons

now its just a tomb

[dusk sluice]

So just to be sure. 1. Yharim is chillin in Aerie 2. Aerie used to be a haven for dragons but almost all of them got killed by gods and its now a tomb 3. Yharim doesnt have wings

[scenic olive]

aerie is also the place where Auric Soul returns to, so the dragons can be rebirthed

[dusk sluice]

I thought rebirthing was almost exclusive to yharon since that was his domain?

[supple thunder]

he controlled the process and brought other dragons back

whenever they died

[scenic olive]

Yharon allows all other Auric Dragons to be rebirthed

[dusk sluice]

So dragons were the main fighting force in the war against the gods?

[scenic olive]

not really their numbers were thinned by the time of Fovos invaded terra

[dusk sluice]

were yharons rebirth powers limited?

[scenic olive]

hmm considering Zeratros died and his soul can no longer rebirth, probably

its not clear as to why he cant

[supple thunder]

that’s an interesting idea actually

[dusk sluice]

can you tell me what lore items mention Zeratros?

[supple thunder]

cultist and moon lord

[dusk sluice]

thx

[supple thunder]

np

[supple thunder]

what if rebirthing uses up some kind of mana and yharon had exahausted it by reviving so many dragons during the fight with fovos

[scenic olive]

One mortal, sworn to the service of the Dragons, rose in determination to save their virtuous King.

could be Xeroc

[dusk sluice]

" To save" didnt Xeroc take his powers?

Im assuming Xeroc was the monk who consumed zeratroses auric soul right?

[scenic olive]

my headcanon is that once sufficiently damaged by Fovos, Auric Soul lost their ability to return to Aerie

As the Light Dragon was fading, a monk visited him. Nearly none understand what transpired that day.
Most say his passing was eased. The truth? Zeratros' Auric soul was consumed; utterly.
The monk stood, wreathed in Primordial Light, declaring themselves Xeroc. The First God.
When a Dragon is laid to rest on the Aerie, its powers are relinquished so they may one day return.
Xeroc renounced their sworn oath and broke the cycle, becoming a traitor without equal.
Word of the ascension spread quickly. Many attempted to follow suit, hoping to claim an Auric soul for themselves.
Now you know… Good intentions or no, all Gods are sinners. Each and every one complicit in genocide.
Wherever your journey may lead, whether you are with me or against…. May fortune favor you.
For nothing else will.
lore item of Requiem from Moonlord

you might easily think he was a traitor

because he took Zeratros soul

but if you think about it Lore item was written from perspective of a man who is completely fine with using a child in war and commit arson

im talking about Yharim

[dusk sluice]

So you think that by absorbing Zeratroses soul Xeroc somehow saved him? Or that Zeratros willingly gave up his soul?

[glacial rampart]

and also is the most biased against gods man alive

[scenic olive]

Xeroc was fascinated by the dragons

he was like fanboying them

no.2 fanboy after yharim

hes probably the Servant they were talking about

and Possibly attuned to Zeratros himself

[dusk sluice]

They did kinda cast him into hell... And he was pals with Yharon whos race got massacred by them... Understandable tbh

I would prolly hate gods too

[scenic olive]

some people think Zeratros willingly gave up his soul

[candid shadow]

Guys, sorry for interrupting, I kinda have a question that came to my mind some minutes ago

According to calamity lore, when you "kill a god" and you don't "dispose their remains entirely" it ends up creating an "evil biome" (aka the Crimsom and Corruption)

Soooo, isn't a evil biome going to generate where the player kills someone like, I don't know, the devourer of gods?

[glacial rampart]

dog isnt a god

so no

[scenic olive]

devourer isnt a god

[candid shadow]

hmmmm

[glacial rampart]

the "a god does not fear death" line is very outdated

[dusk sluice]

we dont know what dog is he kinda came from somewhere... sus...

[candid shadow]

Who's a "god" in the Calamity mod?

[graceful otter]

if you mean "what happens to sg, provi and ravager" theres 2 explanations

1. there isnt enough essence (the corruption crimson and hallow were made of multiple gods)
2. their essence hasnt spread across enough

[graceful otter]

people who have absorbed an auric soul with a ritual

[dusk sluice]

Xeroc is deffo a god

[candid shadow]

Well, that makes sense, after all, I think I've read somewhere that Yharim killed many, MANY gods

[magic epoch]

is yharim still part of the lihzahrd species or are the lore items outdated

[scenic olive]

slime god

its in the name

[dusk sluice]

could just be glazing itself

[scenic olive]

[magic epoch]

90% sure slime god is an actual god

[dusk sluice]

a little weak for a "god"

[graceful otter]

what

[candid shadow]

So that also means Calamitas ain't no god

shit

I thought she was

[magic epoch]

last part of golems lore item says "I see no need to intervene in affairs beneath me and my people" (about the lihzahrds worshipping golem)

[dusk sluice]

Nah she was just super powerful from birth

[magic epoch]

Wait fuck

[graceful otter]

thats

[magic epoch]

I misread that wtf damn

[earnest flare]

she is a GODDESS

[graceful otter]

not wat it means at all

[earnest flare]

get it right

[graceful otter]

[candid shadow]

I really mean it because, well, dude's favorite activity is devouring gods, kinda tought eating a god automatically made u one