#lore-discussion

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hoary berry
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but my oc has an ability of sorts to absorb the power contained within various objects, seals, etc. (including corpses of defeated foes) which is where demon heart and onion will come in

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okay my internet has officially defenestrated itself so this is just wonderful

hoary berry
# hoary berry but my oc has an ability of sorts to absorb the power contained within various o...

some bosses will just give a small boost to some part of her power, either by physically augmenting her or enhancing a metaphysical part of her, but others (prominent, powerful compared to her current state of progression, such as wof or fovos) will live inside of her to some degree as mini-consciousnesses that are subservient to her, so they can take on different tasks (or so i am currently thinking)

spare pier
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My headcanon is quite simply that certain accessories hail from different kinds of magic and trying to apply all of them at the same time nulifies all of them

hoary berry
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my reason for being hesitant in having accessories just straight up be a thing is that i don't like the idea of my character running around with hand warmers that block all forms of cold from every possible direction

wheat walrus
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buongiorno lore people

spare pier
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If I think an accessory makes sense beyond just gameplay, I will try to use it

hoary berry
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i had a message saying that i would just do that, but that i thought i would take the opportunity to have a go at coming up with a different system, but my internet decided not to send that 🙂

real silo
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I just realized how romantic it is that draedon gave us his heart

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Dude really wants us

hoary berry
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it was his gift for our first draedate 🥹 how thoughtful and sweet

real silo
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draedon doesn't have emotions but he sure fucking has class

crimson finch
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I wanna to what Raiden did with Senator Armstrong’s heart and smush Draedon’s in my hand.

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Then play with it like those slime videos under Reddit stories

scenic olive
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Draemad

fair token
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think about it

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i dont know if Draedon can even use our Miracle Matter?

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I imagine the Auric materials we have are an important part of why we can synthesize it

halcyon dust
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Draedon can’t get in touch with auric ore as it stands probably

fair token
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I think he could mine it, we mine it just fine

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I dont think he could refine it

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we use Yharon Soul Fragments to refine the Ore into bars

halcyon dust
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That makes sense

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Since canonically he can’t really kill yharon himself i believe

fair token
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I mean, I think Exo Mechs could beat Yharon, but unless we're a big dumb idiot his egg is under our protection now

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i know its dumb but I like to imagine gfb yharon dropping the egg is like what would happen in the normal game if they didnt want to avoid confusing players

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lmao

halcyon dust
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Even then isn’t the egg under rebirth process

fair token
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yeah, but you know theoretically Yharons soul isnt out of reach for Draedon

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he just has to wait for Yharon to be reborn

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but again Yharon is almost certainly under our watch

graceful otter
fair token
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Oh it does

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i forgot

graceful otter
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(me when i give my clone a fraction of my power)

halcyon dust
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Ngl now i want to kinda make an egg incubation chamber now that you say it that way

fair token
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thats a cute idea

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Also is draedon stupid

graceful otter
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and scoria, because draedon hasnt sufficiently explored the abyss yet

fair token
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"There is nothing Miraculous about Miracle Matter"

"With it you have nigh unlimited potential"

graceful otter
fair token
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yeah yeah

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im being a meme

graceful otter
halcyon dust
graceful otter
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but miracle matter also uses ectoplasm

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and draedon no likey working with souls

fair token
graceful otter
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also galactica singularities, draedon cant get the lunar fragments since theyre from the pillars

fair token
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wait thats crazy that Draedon doesnt have Life Alloy

graceful otter
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ase also uses necroplasm

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so thats another soul thing

fair token
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okay yeah so if Draedon ever wants to use Miracle Matter he cant look at what we did because its basically a black box

graceful otter
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also quite unsure if he took the essence of distortion enemies (the post dog event items will be from distortion, and im assuming theyll work similarily to the essences)

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so basically aint no way is draedon gonna be making miracle matter

fair token
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how mad would the name Nightmare Fuel make draedon

halcyon dust
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If he really wanted to he could scan the world for new anomalies after our existence, that’s just a speculative idea though

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Minus events that don’t change the world physically like post-DoG and souls

earnest flare
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draedon infact does not have access to yharon soul fragments

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... which is required to pacify auric, which is required for miracle matter

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if you didnt need to pacify auric then you'd be able to craft miracle matter with ore, clearly

trim edge
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would draedon steal yharon soul fragments from us

brisk frigate
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if he could yes

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100%

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he'd love to study yharon more

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and that would be a great way too

trim edge
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what if draedon sold us exo prisms for yharon soul fragments XD

brisk frigate
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it'd be post exo mech

trim edge
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ofc

brisk frigate
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so like it'd be selling you something you just have on your lawn

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like you just killed mechs full of them

trim edge
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you need more for gem te- fuck that's not canon

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you try to bargain with draedon to sell him yharon soul fragments and he tells you he already stole some from you

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(the codebreaker has a secret pickpocket feature)

brisk frigate
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"why am I missing 1 fragment draedon"

random mulch
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you summon draedon with the codebreaker, but instead of monologueing he just grabs the quantum auric cooling cell and fucks off

cloud ibex
solar wharf
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i wonder how DoG looks without his armor

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and how durable he is without it

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i'd assume somwhere between late HM maybe?

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in terms of hp that is

cloud ibex
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i thought p1 is still planned to be without armor in the resprite

random mulch
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yes

solar wharf
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i thought it had its armor all the time (because it still the sounds of hitting metal)

cloud ibex
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the plan is i think he fucks off into the distortion during the phase transition to put his armor on

solar wharf
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"wait hold on"

random mulch
solar wharf
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thats gonna be so cool once it releases

pliant ruin
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the devourer of devourers

hushed geyser
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"Hang on chat lemme put on my nice suit"

mighty zenith
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but then theres also the fact he looks
completely different

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between phases

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which not even armor can explain, unless draedon just designed his armor fucking terribly

solar wharf
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i mean, i would believe he just grew over him being made of literal metal

mighty zenith
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yea but how do you explain his curved key-shaped mandibles turning into spike-shaped mandibles

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or the fact he gets longer after putting on armor

solar wharf
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transformation, growth can also be that

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im saying, would i believe hes made of literal metal, OR he just grows and transforms once he goes all out

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and since draedon is draedon, i wouldnt be surprised if that armor was made to support both forms

radiant flax
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Wait theres lore in the yharon music? I only noticed that after yharon kill 12

halcyon dust
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It’s about yharon

halcyon dust
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The lyrics are his thoughts to yharim

solar wharf
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music is canon to yharon iirc

buoyant inlet
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it is

buoyant inlet
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even without the armor he is very durable and strong

scenic olive
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the armor just add durability

pliant ruin
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HI

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meow

solar wharf
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hi

pliant ruin
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what arew e talking about tody lore chat

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or did i come at a time that nothing is being talked about

solar wharf
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and without armor, DoG is still post ML

pliant ruin
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DoG first phase is armorless ye

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itj ust

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dont look like it

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cuz dog fight moment

solar wharf
pliant ruin
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I wonder what Reaver armor's deal will be

solar wharf
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so i thought the armor just transforms once DoG grows too

pliant ruin
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i haven't heard anything about it being removed but i vaguely remember smth about it being kind of reworked? and since we literally have... silva armor

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part of me wonder what it'd be associated with

solar wharf
pliant ruin
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Uelibloom

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idk about perennial, i might be wrong but i've heard they're keeping that one

humble fog
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Cheese jumpscare

pliant ruin
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nya

humble fog
solar wharf
# pliant ruin Uelibloom

ye ik but i thought perennial was also going to go, and chloro is gonna be the only plant based ore?

pliant ruin
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Perennial could just be a weaker alloy associated with silva i suppose

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but id

humble fog
pliant ruin
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I think perenial is changed but not entirely removed like uelibloom?

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Don't quote me on that tho

humble fog
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Don’t need another plant material at plantera tier

solar wharf
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i mean, with arsenal armor, i dont think we would need revear armor as utility anymore

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no?

pliant ruin
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i imagine it's getting reworked mechanically regardless

solar wharf
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what would they do

pliant ruin
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only armorsets i can think of that probably r

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staying the same

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are victide and wulfrum

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cuz those are up to date

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and the uhh

humble fog
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Victide when it gets reworked for the 22nd time

pliant ruin
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pre hm class armors

solar wharf
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arialite is gonna be reworked into ranger and mage no?

pliant ruin
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like desert prowler and wahtever probably would sty the same

pliant ruin
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its getting reworked

humble fog
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Would ranged get an armor set that others don’t

solar wharf
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was there a third one? i swear aerospec was suppose to support another armor set

humble fog
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Ranged has like the most phm armors of any class

pliant ruin
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Ranger has uhh

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fossil

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necro

solar wharf
pliant ruin
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victide ranger ig

solar wharf
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melee gets molten only no/

humble fog
solar wharf
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ye but specifically for it

graceful otter
solar wharf
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doesnt it only get molten?

graceful otter
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and so does mage

pliant ruin
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melee gets only molten specifically but evil ore armor tends to be helpful for melee too

graceful otter
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rogue is getting its own thing

pliant ruin
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but only for melee specifically

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molten

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and thats it

graceful otter
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and molten and obsidian are alr covered for melee and summoner

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and meteor armour isnt real it doesnt exist and we dont talk about it

humble fog
solar wharf
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and then arsenal armor just gonna be for utility rather than dps?

humble fog
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But you mentioned molten and obsidian

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One of which isn’t even post evil 1

pliant ruin
graceful otter
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we dont count progression skips

pliant ruin
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it can be whatever u want it to be, upgrades n all

graceful otter
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also evil 1 and 2 are close enough to be pretty much the same

solar wharf
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i hope arsenal armor isnt just for utility but can also be for bulk

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ik exo suit is gonna be the bulkiest

graceful otter
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arsenal is all class

solar wharf
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ye

graceful otter
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its gonna do lots of stuff

solar wharf
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but i want it to be similar to revear

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where u have an entire specific set

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JUST

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to tank

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well not an entire set, you know what i mean

pliant ruin
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u can probably make it do that

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idk tho

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whats reworked statigel gonna be again i forgor

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do we even know

solar wharf
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rogue and something else

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i forgot

pliant ruin
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theres so many armors it gets confusing

solar wharf
graceful otter
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rogue melee summoner iirc

solar wharf
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ye

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silva would be mage and melee

pliant ruin
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i think it's kind of strange how they're trying to move from armors that are for like, all classes but victide rework is literally that

solar wharf
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godslayer would be ranger summoner and rogue

pliant ruin
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victide rework number 500 coming

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if silva dosen't end up being melee for atleast one of the thingies i will cry

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braelor is RIGHT THERE

solar wharf
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is mollusk gonna be work?

pliant ruin
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i assume so

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with

solar wharf
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rework*

pliant ruin
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sunken sea update

solar wharf
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idk if its gonna be an all class armor

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or a specific one

pliant ruin
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it gives melee vibes

solar wharf
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auric is also gonna stay all class iirc

pliant ruin
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the trend seems to kind of be like

solar wharf
pliant ruin
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armor made from bars = multiple classes
armor made from random materials/enemy loot = specific class

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well statigel isn't made from bars

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i think more so just

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armor made mainly out of 1 material tends to be

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multiple classes

solar wharf
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silva isnt made from bars yet its also multiple sets

pliant ruin
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i don't think this is intentional or anything but it's kind of neat

solar wharf
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would necro be reworked?

pliant ruin
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necro like

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the vanilla one?

graceful otter
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necro alr got reworked

solar wharf
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o

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oh right, the 7 second extra time

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after death

graceful otter
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when u die u dont actually die until 7 seconds later

graceful otter
pliant ruin
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hey what's up with empyrean armor

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like not from a mechanic standpoint like

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wtf is it meant to be

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is that like.a squid? a hood? a squid hood?

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also why is it called empyrean

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i'm probably just looking too deep into a Videogame Armorset but it feels so out of place

graceful otter
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i believe its a hood n shit

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like

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_ _

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a rogue

solar wharf
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is omega blue gonna be reworked or was it reworked/added recently

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idk the history of calamity updates lol

graceful otter
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i dont feel like it needs a rework

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just a visual change which it will get eventually

solar wharf
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true

halcyon dust
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Aka edgy armor #32

hushed geyser
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Dye it pink

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Neon pink

cosmic zenith
untold forge
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xeroc armor or something cheese?

pliant ruin
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it used to be called xeroc armor ye

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and it looked like

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way different

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i could try finding the old sprite but i remember it being like

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orange yellow and blue

hushed geyser
twilit nymph
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Hey there, calamity Lore newbie Here
I would Like to get into the Lore of the Mod so is there any place where i can read Up on the whole Thing?

glacial rampart
pliant ruin
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keep in mind it's still being developed, notably alot of the in-game presentation of lore is missing

solar wharf
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theres more we know that isnt in the doc

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the doc only shows things ingame

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some are dev statements that isnt ingame

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so ask here if u want to know

untold bluff
solar wharf
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omg im ur biggest fan!!!!

untold bluff
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here lemme sign your autograph ✍️

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oh shit that was the death note

crimson finch
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Why’d they change Leviathan and Anahita’s lore? Did they change it? I remember her being a Siren from Sirenlantis or something, taking a god’s trident when their home was getting destroyed, and nursing the Leviathan back to health, which is why they’re gal pals.

solar wharf
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it was changed

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now shes a water elemental

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i assume you know what elementals are in calamity

crimson finch
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Yeah

solar wharf
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she has a pet leviathan

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and shes VERY angry at silva

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cuz silva elemental of life

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and goddess of life

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kicked her out of the abyss

crimson finch
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Ohhhh

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That makes more sense why she drops the abyss item then

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But why’d they change it?

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Also thanks boo boo bear 🙏

solar wharf
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im not a writer so dont know, ig the idea of elementals would go hand to hand with silvas existence

crimson finch
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M

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Okay

solar wharf
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they already have anahita, just gotta call her an elemental and shes ready

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but as i said, im not a writer so i easily could be wrong

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thats just what i assume

crimson finch
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Thanks a bunch

cosmic zenith
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That lore is from when she was still Siren, her actual name being "Nahlyn"
Afaik, she was conceived mainly by a dev who, due to conflicting visions for the character, left the team and took Nahlyn to their own mod, "Tides of Aether"

pliant ruin
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all of the lore got changed lol

solar wharf
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whats the strongest draedon invention behind exo mechs

pliant ruin
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probably PBG

solar wharf
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oh right he exists

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for a second i thought it was astrum aureus

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although its fair to assume the infection

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did a good amount of the job tho

pliant ruin
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astrum aureus was just suppoed to be a reckon bot iirc

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so i imagine it wouldn't be as powerful as pbg who

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is literally a designated war machine

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or well, war cyborg

solar wharf
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true

crimson finch
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Oh ok

pliant ruin
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like older than old lore

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not everyday u see someone who still remembers that

crimson finch
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What’s shocking?

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I bought terraria like last month but I’ve been a fan of calamity for years

pliant ruin
crimson finch
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Oh lol

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Anyways thanks chums, gotta go back to job bye bye

solar wharf
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cya

young wind
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we are actually so back

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was it canon then it wasnt now it is again?

wheat walrus
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it originally was canon, then it wasn't and now it is again

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so yeah

young wind
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yeah i just know the lore before the new lore

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so im gonna read the new one to get caught up

buoyant inlet
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I think rotjd wasn't canon from the start and only became canon after the lore rewrite

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But I'm not sure

wheat walrus
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I actually am not sure of that

crimson finch
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Was it not Canon because of the vocals?

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Like

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2 reasons being that Since DM Dokuro left, were they removing the canonicity?

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Or did they think the lyrics didn’t fit Yharon’s character?

cloud ibex
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i think it was mainly that pre rewrite yharon and yharim were both immortal as long as the other still lived

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so it being yharon's "final dying roar" doesn't really hit the same

crimson finch
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Ohhhhh

buoyant inlet
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I think Dokuro just wanted to write a dramatic song

crimson finch
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Oh yeah cause their soups bonded

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I’m not changing that

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Auric Soups are real

buoyant inlet
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Which contradicted the established lore

cloud ibex
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now yharon is still practically immortal but by the time he comes back yharim will have long since crumbled to dust

pliant ruin
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10 years after yharim died

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everyones throwing a party

buoyant inlet
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10 fargo years

crimson finch
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Like 20 Funky GomuGomuYears

pliant ruin
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calamitas is actually enjoying life a little bit for once, amidias and permafrost are hanging out and drinking and being old bros, braelor and statis are being fruity together

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out of nowhere

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yharon comes in
"I WILL AVENGE MY M-

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terrarian shows up

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"god damnit this is the 3rd time this week"

cloud ibex
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i hope that whenever yharon is reborn he always starts off looking like a fucked up skinny baby bird version of himself for a little while

spring helm
pliant ruin
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procceeds to kill him again

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i love the idea that yharon just becomes a Incovenience at some point

buoyant inlet
pliant ruin
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it's obv not gonna work in canon but it would be so funny

cloud ibex
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the second strongest auric dragon in existence except every time he comes back after dying he looks like this

spring helm
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god, birds look so fucked up when they hatch

pliant ruin
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baby owls

buoyant inlet
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Owls

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Owls are already fucked up

buoyant inlet
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Some birds can walk almost right after birth

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And they look pretty normal

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I think there were names for 2 types of hatched chicks but I don't remember them

buoyant inlet
crimson finch
hushed geyser
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Chat zeratros definitely looks exactly like placidusax

pliant ruin
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zeratros is blue

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thats all

cloud ibex
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the eye holes on xeroc's mask aren't just dark, they have tinted lenses so xeroc doesn't burn holes in their retinas whenever they look at zeratros

crimson finch
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Zeratros is the big one right

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The big king dragon

pliant ruin
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yeah

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the dead one

crimson finch
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Most auric dragons are dead

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Wait

pliant ruin
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all but yharon are

crimson finch
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All*

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I mean

cloud ibex
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"the dead one" applies to literally all of them except for yharon

pliant ruin
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i like to headcanon that

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zeratros's conscience lives on as like. a little ghost who follows xeroc around that only they can see LOL

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same for silva and whatever her dragon was

crimson finch
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He’s on spectator after dying in hardcore 😭

pliant ruin
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cuz i like to think them having a ''perfect ascencion" means that the dragons they consumed the soul of willingly let them do it and most likely were in good terms with them before they ascended in some way

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and bc of that the dragons r just chilling as little ghosts in their heads now

cloud ibex
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keeps trying to talk to people because he keeps forgetting literally only xeroc can hear him

pliant ruin
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"zeratros, only i can hear you"
"oh wait right. my bad. forgot about that. hi xeroc."

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IMAGINE

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YHARIM CONFRONTING XEROC

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zeratros: dude what the fuck i literally let them consume my soul
xeroc: he can't hear you
zeratros: ah shit, right.
yharim: WHO ARE YOU TALKING TO!?!?!
xeroc: zeratros
yharim:

crimson finch
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the terrarian : clueless

pliant ruin
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the terrarian would be on the counter with popcorn

crimson finch
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They can see the dialogue on chat

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Including Zeratros

cloud ibex
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"yharon, my good friend, i beseech thee, cease this endless hunt for revenge. it will not bring your kind back, it will only further perpetuate your own suffering."
"milord i'm sorry but he cannot hear you"
"ah fuck you right he can't. shit. fuck"

pliant ruin
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i think in like 8 year when calamity is finally ''finished" and yharim has been added plus all the cool lore things devs want to add

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my definitive terrarian will literally just be a self insert

crimson finch
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Honestly why didn’t slime god like snatch king slime before it died

pliant ruin
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probably cuz it didn't want to

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slime god's whole deal is like

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mantaining the balance

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adding king slime on the mix would probably be against its philosophy

sinful adder
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I wrote a character for something else and I later realized that I basically just made their story like calamitas but in DND terms, except she didn't do genocide and just protected her city from a fire giant instead

earnest flare
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xeroc and zeratros were prolly on good terms considering their very likely attunement and as for silva, life and nature are quite similar domains

sinful adder
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I'm probably going to make a version of them that makes sense for calamity at some point

pliant ruin
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silva and her dragon both share the same domain

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both r life

crimson finch
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What happened to the God of Honey Mustard

pliant ruin
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thats why xeroc and silva are the only ones with the same domain

crimson finch
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Did Devourer eat it

earnest flare
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which was nature

pliant ruin
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ohh

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yeah

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i like to think that

cloud ibex
pliant ruin
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unlike what yharim says

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not all elementals are just

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hellbent on destruction

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i don't think there's anything beyond yharim's lore items that actually ''confirms" every elemental is like that

earnest flare
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brimmy 100% is and ana might be but the others???

pliant ruin
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yeah brimmy is and it fits her cuz

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yk

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brimstone

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angry

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fire

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anahita seems at the very least pretty agressive

cloud ibex
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i mean yeah silva's whole deal even before ascending was nature, which is pretty similar to life

sinful adder
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IIRC the bestiary says anahita wants to cover the world in ocean

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kyogre looking mf

cloud ibex
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causing needless death seems pretty counterintuitive for her

pliant ruin
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we know yharim seems to really hate elementals for some reason, almost as much as gods

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so

crimson finch
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I’d let Brimstone turn me to ash 😩

pliant ruin
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it'd make sense

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that he just

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is biased towards them too and says they're all just hellbent on destroying

sinful adder
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I would guess that Silva wants the whole world to be full of life, so just as expansionist, but less destructive

earnest flare
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oh yeah fun fact
similar to xeroc being able to control darkness due to it being the absence of light, i think silva could prolly control death due to it being absence of life!
how did she "die" to yharim

crimson finch
earnest flare
sinful adder
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I think more accurately, all elementals want to see the world filled with their element, but some want this through destructive means, while others can coexist

pliant ruin
#

inb4, 30 years after yharim dies and everyone is hanging out and having fun

earnest flare
sinful adder
#

oh also Silva didn't die, she's like chronos in greek mythology

pliant ruin
#

braelor tells statis ''hey there's gonna be a surprise guest to our town tonight" and then silva shows up

pliant ruin
#

wait

pliant ruin
#

new headcanon time

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what if silva and xeroc were buddies post-yharim

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like

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they're the only two gods

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they probably have something to bond over

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plus terminus is in the abyss

#

yk

#

where silva is

earnest flare
#

counterpoint

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xeroc has a proposal

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for the terrarian

sinful adder
#

they hate each other

pliant ruin
#

wyrm hates xeroc

sinful adder
#

we don't know why, but we know that they do

pliant ruin
#

not necessarily silva

crimson finch
pliant ruin
#

it's possible that silva does so too but nothing outright confirms it

sinful adder
#

wyrm hates xeroc because of silva's influence

spring helm
sinful adder
#

probably

pliant ruin
#

it might be

earnest flare
#

pov: you are a wyrm in the abyss but then the place becomes not dark

pliant ruin
#

but i like to think its just cuz. you know. dragons.

pliant ruin
#

the usage of the term "usurped" light

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implies that, i feel

earnest flare
#

xeroc stole his light from the sun!!!!!!!!

crimson finch
#

I feel bad for Wyrm when the holy light of life surges into his quiet dark and cool home

spring helm
#

Wyrm hates the primordial light because it wakes him up from his nap and he's eepy

pliant ruin
#

silva and xeroc being like. buddies post-yharim is a fun headcanon i'll stick with that

cloud ibex
#

you're being put in the Tube

pliant ruin
#

i really like envisioning the world post-yharim

spring helm
#

hello neday

untold forge
#

o/

pliant ruin
#

it just feels fun to think of all of the characters that are currently alive in more chill, slice-of-life scenarios

pliant ruin
earnest flare
#

envisioning a post-yharim world is quite interesting if you know what might happen after the game

#

but umm headcanons are fun too :D

crimson finch
#

I hate Goonzma cause it’s just better Slime God ):

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Stealing my boys thunder

pliant ruin
#

YHARIM IS GONNA DIE WHAT ELSE COULD HAPPEN

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well i guess there's noxus but IM GONNA KILL NOXUS

#

let me little guys be happy for once plea

spring helm
#

Calamitas and Terrarian in an ariplane:
"To be honest, I'm a little nervous. I usually just fly using magic so this is my first ti—"
"WE'RE GONNA CRASH!!!!"

earnest flare
pliant ruin
#

tbh jokes aside but i don't see calamity having a ''bad" or "negative" ending or whatever

#

personally

#

i'm not a huge fan of those

spring helm
crimson finch
#

Probably Calamitas

#

Yep

#

WERE GONNA CRASHHHHH

pliant ruin
#

my personal favorite endings tend to be the ones where like

#

things aren't Good but they can recover

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in fact my own story

#

has that type of ending planned for it

sinful adder
#

I like to think the terrarian does the boss rush and kills noxus with xeroc's help, then retires as an adventurer and just builds some towns for the people he's met

pliant ruin
#

"it's not perfect, but we can make it" type stuff

earnest flare
#

my personal favorite endings are those that are quite neutral
like, the world was bad, it's better now, but shit is NOT done yet

sinful adder
earnest flare
crimson finch
#

Slime God easily beats Noxus & Xeroc

#

🥱

pliant ruin
#

||sorry for ranting about my own project but the ending is basically, the two main characters kill the villain, but she's already Done her Thing and humanity is currently kind of fucked, but given enough time things can recover||

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end of evangelion type of shit

earnest flare
crimson finch
#

I don’t mind

pliant ruin
#

they can work sometimes i guess but usually it's just

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what was all this story i've watched for if it ultimately will lead to failure - It usually just ends up feeling nihilistic

real silo
#

"that's it? That's how it ends?"

pliant ruin
#

^

#

yeah

crimson finch
#

That’s just a bunch of cheap walk cycles!

earnest flare
pliant ruin
#

end of evangelion is

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one of the best endings imo

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cuz

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by all means

#

it feels like a bad ending

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has all the emotional impact of one

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but once you take a breather and think, you realize it's not a true bad ending

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madomagi ending has a similar vibe buttt it's not an actual ending given the series is still ongoing so i don't count it

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though madomagi ending def feels happier

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even if it's still pretty sad

earnest flare
#

but one of my favorite endings in anything ever has got to be undertale yellow's ||genocide route||
||through the run, the game constantly makes you feel like a liberator, almost as if clover has no patience for sidequests, the human souls need to be saved at all costs||
||but like, at the end he actually kills asgore and escapes the underground with the 5 other souls??? the closest he gets to this in any other route is dying to asgore, but like, it's a bad ending but if you look past everything, it's kinda neutral??? the human souls are returned to the surface, the case of the missing kids is finished, and such a discovery would likely get more people to trek down ebott, all at the cost of a couple dozen monster lives||

#

but honestly what top 10 list of mine related to gaming doesnt include undertale yellow

crimson finch
#

I like the Earthbound ending

earnest flare
#

umm anyways calamity

crimson finch
#

Yeah

pliant ruin
#

undertale yellow ending to me

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is incredibly fucked up

#

in a good way

#

cuz

#

its evil but in a entirely different way from

crimson finch
#

I haven’t seen Undertale Mustard but

pliant ruin
#

UT geno

earnest flare
#

why doesnt yharim just find prov/sg??? is he stupid???

crimson finch
#

I heard it’s good

earnest flare
#

play it 🫵

pliant ruin
#

UTY's geno ending is quite literally

crimson finch
pliant ruin
#

somethign real ppl do, comparatively

crimson finch
earnest flare
crimson finch
earnest flare
#

you dont even need the pretext of normal undertale to understand anything

crimson finch
#

Probably won’t play it anyway

pliant ruin
#

(using ''justice" as a excuse to exert violence onto others)

crimson finch
#

One Piece

earnest flare
#

OH YEAH!

crimson finch
#

That’s just One Piece

#

Sakazuki One Piece

pliant ruin
#

realistically, didn't need to kill like 80% of the monsters and even then, none of them were guilty of anything besides asgore and maybe some random royal guard members

crimson finch
#

Absolute Justice

pliant ruin
#

and that's not accounting that

#

the humans are dead already dude

#

this ain't justice

#

this is bloodlustied revenge

earnest flare
#

its revenge, exactly

pliant ruin
#

the pacifist route feels like actual justice while geno feels like

#

a perversion of the concept

earnest flare
#

he sees monsterkind as a collective responsible for killing all 5 humans

pliant ruin
#

justice is deciding to do the right thing, even if it may harm you or others

#

pacifist is literally that

earnest flare
#

paci couldnt embody that more

pliant ruin
#

clover does what they see as the right thing, and ultimately, probably is the right thing, but sacrifice themselves in the proccess

earnest flare
#

flawed pacifist, on the other hand, is also justice but like, not as much

#

neutral is weird

#

and then geno!

crimson finch
#

Calamity mod but it’s Pokémon and the main bosses are gym leaders

pliant ruin
#

yharim tries killing the legendary pokemon cuz theyre gods and gets obliterated by arceus

#

moving on

crimson finch
#

Yea

earnest flare
#

yeah back to undertale yellow

#

umm neutral is weird as fuck

crimson finch
#

☹️

earnest flare
#

in undertale it barely deviates from pacifist but uty just gives neutral exclusive content not even found in geno

crimson finch
#

I mean it is discussing lore

#

Not Calamity but it doesn’t say #calamity-lore-discussion

pliant ruin
#

fucked up flowey fight my beloved

#

flowey such a good character

#

i hate him but hes so good

earnest flare
#

they gave flowey more depth in uty than toby ever did

pliant ruin
#

tbh i disagree there

#

what i do agree with though

spring helm
pliant ruin
#

is that they managed to give the character legitimatelyj ust as much depth as toby did

#

they explored facets of flowey that toby didn't

crimson finch
earnest flare
#

toby gave a pretty good outline for his character in undertale but he always felt shallow

untold forge
crimson finch
#

He just runs away crying

pliant ruin
#

I think flowey is

#

one of the most indepth cahracters in undertale as a whole

#

ppl just

#

do anything other than pacifist and genocide

earnest flare
pliant ruin
#

so they don't see the 2952929595 lines of dialogue from him lol

#

also

#

all the

#

external content

spring helm
pliant ruin
#

like the. whatever it wa called. alarm clock app

crimson finch
#

I like Deltatraveler

earnest flare
#

deltatraveler geno peaked at section 2

pliant ruin
crimson finch
#

Fucking love earthbound

earnest flare
#

i mean ill take any excuse to see gg!sans but eh

#

earthbound is great

pliant ruin
#

gg!sans ?

#

what's gg!

#

i forgor

#

Ghostly Goo Sans

earnest flare
#

umm

cloud ibex
#

gg sans vs fandom sans

earnest flare
#

rynogg, creator of gg!underfell and deltatraveler

pliant ruin
#

ohhh

#

fandom sans is so stupid

crimson finch
#

I like how Slime God uses the decomposition of Gods for counter weights

#

That’s metal

pliant ruin
#

he gets turned into a edgy anime protagonist all the time 😭

#

EITHER THAT

#

or

earnest flare
#

gg sans is the best fandom sans and nobody can tell me otherwise

pliant ruin
#

people think he's just

#

a joke character with 0 depth who goes hehe

#

like

#

yall

#

theres a balance

#

he IS a funny guy but he is a REALLY DEPRESSED funny guy

#

he's neither a emo edgy anime guy or a Joke Funny Doing Good character

cloud ibex
#

sand undertable................

#

bad time..........

#

hehe...

earnest flare
crimson finch
#

Slime God could solo with Preptime

pliant ruin
#

sans is literally like

crimson finch
#

Like

earnest flare
#

but yeah ive only seen ONE fangame get his personality right

pliant ruin
#

dosen't do things cuz he knows it dosen't matter
just accepts bad things happening around him cuz ''it is what it is"

#

that's

#

that's textbook depression y'all

#

''well but he cracks jokes and is funny!!"

earnest flare
pliant ruin
#

depressed people can still crack jokes and be funny nothoughtsheadempty

#

sans is like

#

gen one of the best characters toby made and he honestly deserves the popularity

#

but its sad that he gets

#

so mischaracterized

earnest flare
#

my biggest issue with the undertale community isnt that but rather

#

the complete and utter neglect for pacifist/neutral

#

yet when someone does geno first they stab the person with the real knife irl

pliant ruin
#

UT community is kind of chill but it gets wacky sometimes

#

tis def

#

MUCH

#

better

#

than in 2014

#

its actually fairly enjoyable now

#

it went from being a massive oversaturated community to a community that's honestly not much different from thta of other indie games like hollow knight and even calamity so like

earnest flare
#

i mean and something that mildly annoys me is the 200 typos in every sans fangame ever

pliant ruin
#

by extension

#

it's less people, and less toxicity

#

it's not perfect by any means

#

but ti's def. alot better

earnest flare
pliant ruin
#

i think thats cuz

#

alot of them r made by ppl who arent native english speakers

earnest flare
#

it annoys me so much

#

oh yeah right
attacks that are sometimes undodgeable exist in a lot of fangames

#

rng...

crimson finch
#

I think it would be could if slime got had a bunch of like

#

Biome Counterweights

hushed geyser
crimson finch
#

And it was like a Boss Rush

hushed geyser
pliant ruin
#

im stupid ok i fdont remember when it released

#

im just a cat

hushed geyser
#

2015

earnest flare
#

the community when it was on kickstarter was good actually...

#

less people = good

hushed geyser
crimson finch
#

Mm

#

Sans my favorite Terraria boss

#

His Chemistry with EoL was immaculate

earnest flare
untold forge
spring helm
#

all my drawings are pin worthy because im an official artist for Calamity Mod

#

(for legal reasons this is a joke)

scenic olive
spring helm
#

pre-ascension or post?

crimson finch
pliant ruin
#

ur art like

#

genuinely has been getting better

#

like. ur little doodles genuinely look much better now than when u first started i feel

crimson finch
#

What if Xeroc’s Ascension form was A Fat little German boy with a swirled lollipop, propeller beanie, and small blue tricycle.

pliant ruin
#

i like to think post ascencion xeroc would actually look

#

pretty human

#

actually

#

do we know what otonilou's dragon's domain was?

#

because i was about to

#

throw a theory here

#

that the gods that look more humanoid all had perfect ascencions

#

silva, xeroc (supposedly will have a more humanoid design, iirc)

#

otonilou and arguably tyrian are the only exceptions to this rule but we don't know their dragon's domains do we??

civic salmon
#

also we don't know what otonilou and tyrian looked like beforehand

pliant ruin
#

They probably wouldn't look radically different i don't think

#

They were illmerans, and as far as we know those are just

#

fish people

#

and they're, well

#

fish people

civic salmon
#

Yeah like Tyrian looks like an Ilmeran for sure

pliant ruin
#

If they also had perfect ascencions that'd be interesting because

real silo
#

She ascended using vetrasyl's soul

pliant ruin
#

ah

#

there goes my theory then

real silo
#

For tyrian I don't think there's an agreed answer yet

#

Stip's headcanon was the dragon of rivers

civic salmon
#

Do we have an official source on there being perfect ascensions vs. imperfect ascensions?

pliant ruin
#

Otonilou and Silva are by far the most human looking ones yet, and Xeroc theoretically was also going to be fairly human according to dev statements, but since Otonilou didn't have a perfect ascencion, there goes my theory :p

pliant ruin
#

that's where the idea of a perfect ascencion comes from

civic salmon
#

That makes sense

pliant ruin
#

we don't know how ones achieve said ascencion, but

#

my personal theory is that it requires the dragon to willingly let the person ascend to godhood using their soul

civic salmon
#

hmmmm

pliant ruin
#

It'd make sense to me given i feel like everything points towards Zeratros willingly letting Xeroc consume his soul

earnest flare
#

i mean its also easy to theorize that perfect ascensions grant more power than regular ones

earnest flare
pliant ruin
#

Well i feel like that's a given

#

More so interested on how one achieves them

earnest flare
real silo
#

Only thing I can think of is terminus

pliant ruin
#

I'm a pretty strong believer of the willing ascencion thing

supple thunder
real silo
#

Me too

pliant ruin
#

It not only seems likely for Xeroc's case, but it'd feel like a natural progression of the whole story

pliant ruin
#

besides Silva and Xeroc all gods and dragons have different domains, even if generally related

real silo
#

Maybe ascensions go wrong because the dragon's soul actively struggles against the process, thus stirring the souls and making the ascension imperfect

pliant ruin
#

Honestly

sinful adder
earnest flare
#

umm anyways alternate timeline where ravager got a pure ascension go

pliant ruin
sinful adder
#

Attunement would almost always require willingness

pliant ruin
supple thunder
#

is there some sort of pattern to how the domains shift from dragon to god

sinful adder
#

Yes, but the willingness isn't the fundamental thing

pliant ruin
#

Are we sure about that though

#

Like

earnest flare
pliant ruin
#

we literally do not know how perfect ascencions work

earnest flare
#

he'd be god of death, which sounds pretty damn broken

pliant ruin
#

Saying 'it dosen't work like that' when we literally don't know is

#

yea

pliant ruin
#

the only general rule is

real silo
pliant ruin
#

the domains are similar but not the same

spring helm
earnest flare
#

bro already got post-prov levels of power from sacrifices domain

earnest flare
untold forge
#

strongest god of today vs strongest god of all time mindblown

pliant ruin
#

Death = Sacrifice
Storm = Electricity
Flame = Ash (Probably)

untold forge
#

freakin WHAT

earnest flare
#

HUH???

pliant ruin
#

Ravager, Otonilou and Providence respecively

earnest flare
#

when was this mentioned

real silo
#

Trongle leaks

pliant ruin
earnest flare
#

wdym

untold forge
#

good thing I have no idea wtf trongle leaks are

real silo
#

Triangle said it somewhere

#

the dev

earnest flare
#

OF COURSE ITS TRIANGLE AAAAAAAAAA

real silo
untold forge
#

is triangle even a lore writer wheeze

earnest flare
#

yeah that is very in character

spring helm
#

lmao Triangle just be leaking shit

supple thunder
spring helm
#

okay i could have worded that better

earnest flare
#

welp
really big lore drop for the future just got ruined

spring helm
earnest flare
#

can we all agree to not talk about this again

real silo
#

Maybe I shouldn't have said it yes

earnest flare
#

yeah...

#

BUT MY GOD OF COURSE ITS TRIANGLE

untold forge
#

oh

#

shit

#

uhh

#

cover this up!!

pliant ruin
#

hey guys

real silo
#

just pretend nothing happened 😄

pliant ruin
#

im develooper

earnest flare
pliant ruin
#

we are adding herborine

untold forge
#

cheese moment

pliant ruin
#

new final boss

untold forge
supple thunder
#

i am also dev

real silo
#

hey guys

spring helm
#

mods, delete the last five minutes

pliant ruin
#

ghod of evil, stronger than xeroc

#

kill yharim 2 seconds

#

we are add herobrin

untold forge
#

its gone

spring helm
#

lol

pliant ruin
#

dont think it dont say it

supple thunder
civic salmon
#

What I'm saying is I don't think it's a big deal since it was already leaked and made relatively common knowledge

real silo
#

It's evidently not common

earnest flare
real silo
#

I think besides me there's like 3 other people

untold forge
#

Yeah

supple thunder
untold forge
#

im seeing it everywhere actually

civic salmon
#

Did I just read messages at a really specific moment then? Idk, I saw it somewhere

supple thunder
#

i saw it too

#

a while back

untold forge
#

reminds me of that one character from dungeon meshi

untold forge
#

okay 4 times

earnest flare
#

umm anyways

#

you will not speak of this again

real silo
#

There is no war in terraria

crimson finch
#

What the hell happened here

#

I’m not asking

#

I’m just saying cause I’m confused

supple thunder
#

nothing happened wdym

crimson finch
#

I don’t want answers

earnest flare
#

guys what is yharon's favorite mcdonalds menu item

crimson finch
#

Crack

supple thunder
#

nugget

real silo
#

nugget would be cannibalism

supple thunder
#

he’s a cannibal

crimson finch
#

Oooh Yharon

#

Not Yharim

real silo
#

ok but what do birds eat

#

nuts?

crimson finch
#

Still, Crack

supple thunder
#

fish?

crimson finch
#

Yharon looks like a Fish McBites fan

supple thunder
#

so like

#

filet-o-fish

crimson finch
#

He probably cried when they were discontinued

#

Like I did

earnest flare
#

yharon would like the mcrib

crimson finch
#

Cause it comes back after dying out ?

#

If that’s the reason

supple thunder
#

he can revive it

crimson finch
#

I’m going to impale myself

earnest flare
#

thats not what i was going for but that sounds good

crimson finch
#

With a fork

#

And eat myself

earnest flare
#

its just,
you get a certain vibe from mcrib enjoyers

#

yharon emits it

civic salmon
#

Yharim would demand to see the manager because one of his mcnuggets is too small and it doesnt really count as 10 mcnuggets

supple thunder
#

it’s an abuse of power

crimson finch
supple thunder
#

they demand sacrifice (money) from him and give him nothing (0.3 less nuggets) in return

spring helm
#

it's not cannibalism for yharon to eat other birds

#

birds are not one species

real silo
#

Sacrifice like

#

Ravag

supple thunder
#

ravager is mcdonald’s ceo ‼️‼️🤯🤯🤯

spare coral
#

WTF

real silo
#

Auric soul of burgers

supple thunder
#

consumed by the burger king himself

real silo
#

Dragon of burgers god of mcdonald's

supple thunder
#

oh true

#

imperfect ascension

#

what would burger dragon meat taste like

real silo
#

Incomparable

#

It has its own unique taste

#

Mix of beef and crab

#

Quite spicy and chewy

supple thunder
#

would it make a good burger

real silo
#

if you like spicy ones sure

supple thunder
#

how spicy exactly

real silo
#

It's like eating naked flame

spring helm
#

Spicy except it doesn’t just feel hot, it is hot and your mouth is melting

supple thunder
#

what if that’s what brimstone flames are

#

just like pure capsaicin

#

enough to hurt a ton

real silo
#

Yes

#

Why do you think regular lava protection doesn't work on brimstone lava

frigid lotus
#

also if you could eat yharon it would probably taste like a hot wing but like way better

real silo
#

you're a bird

frigid lotus
real silo
#

flightless bird

frigid lotus
#

damn

#

you know what this gives me an idea (im gonna make a tierlist of every calamity and vanilla boss based on how good they would taste)

real silo
#

DUNGEON MESHI

frigid lotus
real silo
#

anime where they cook and eat monsters

#

Including dragons

frigid lotus
#

ceaseless void is a unique case cause like
is he even edible

real silo
#

He's a door

#

How edible are doors

frigid lotus
#

oh

#

i didn't really know what he was

real silo
#

Yea he's just a portal to the distortion

#

Not a living creature

frigid lotus
#

i'll put him at the top of inedible tier cause he's the most inedible

#

heres the full list

#

only the topmost one and inedible tiers were made with orders in mind

#

everything else is in no specific order

#

also posted it in the reddit so they can see it as well

calm patio
#

ah yes, another "which bosses are edible or convo"

frigid lotus
calm patio
#

same thing

frigid lotus
#

nuh uh
if it were which ones are edible there would only be 2 tiers
edible and unedible

calm patio
#

"nuh uh" detected. opinion invalid

frigid lotus
minor rose
#

i could eat some void

#

what would astral taste like?

frigid lotus
#

how would you eat that

frigid lotus
minor rose
#

waaat reaally?

#

i could eat some tree bark

frigid lotus
#

c'mon prove it

minor rose
#

im so sigma

frigid lotus
#

erm, what the sigma?

untold forge
frigid lotus
pliant ruin
#

Hes not

frigid lotus
#

worms can be made out of metal

#

look at thanatos

pliant ruin
#

He's like. Not

#

He's just a worm

#

Of the space variety

frigid lotus
#

idk man he looks like a cosmic robot worm

#

and its too late to change it

pliant ruin
#

I don't care about the tier list
I was just correcting you cuz deus isnt a robot waddle

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Theres been lije 600000 billion of those tier lisrs already

frigid lotus
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he looks like hes made out of the same stuff the other one was made out of, which the other one is a robot

pliant ruin
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Why are you arguing against canonical lore in the lore chat calg

frigid lotus
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idk he just looks like a robot worm

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thats kinda my only arguement