#lore-discussion

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fierce pagoda
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if we got to find out when Brealor and Statis attacked we could know right when the the Terrarians adventure started

solar wharf
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is this canon or?

humble fog
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It’s an enemy

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Why wouldn’t it be

solar wharf
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does that imply theres an element called chaos?

humble fog
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I think the actual chaos elemental, if there is one, just summons these little things to fight for it

scenic olive
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maybe it is

humble fog
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Because the elementals are sisters

scenic olive
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small domains have small elementals

cloud ibex
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would also imply there's an element called granite

scenic olive
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i meant like artificial domains

cloud ibex
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and i mean maybe

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but if so it's probably very weak comparatively

humble fog
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There was that one removed enemy

solar wharf
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so killing a sand elemental doesnt kill the sand elemental itself

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its just avatars

humble fog
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Specifically for dropping stuff that only appeared a limited amount of times, possibly none, for a world

scenic olive
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you know how Cloud Elemental is actually massive

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just like her domain which expands to the whole planet

solar wharf
scenic olive
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but

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isnt earth elemental was artificially created

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or was that old lore

brisk frigate
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it is in fact lore lore

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artificially made

solar wharf
scenic olive
spring helm
quasi epoch
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Draedon hearing the player say Skeletron Prime: FallWithinMyCalculations

jaunty wraith
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Me who wants to call ares skeletron prime deluxe just to do a bit of trolling

scenic olive
jaunty wraith
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Also imagine draedons reaction if he finds out we named items "master bait" and "golden shower"

brisk frigate
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"well the angler named the bait"

scenic olive
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What if i inject you with Ichor

trim edge
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what if draetalk gives you an option to rename the mech bosses
rematches obviously aren't canon but their appearance in boss rush is

jaunty wraith
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Yeah but they aren't the real Mechs, just recreations made by primordial light

formal nymph
scenic olive
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I thought you hated the gods

hushed geyser
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🤨

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Caught in 4k

zinc lance
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Don’t reuse needles kids. Wouldn’t want to get auric STDs

hushed geyser
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If they're auric

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Wouldn't they reject you

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(Not even good enough for an std smh)

buoyant inlet
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Auric nanomachines are the cruelest torture method

hushed geyser
scenic olive
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Auric Gas

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they explode violently once they get into your bloodstream

buoyant inlet
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You inject them in your victim, and they flow through their blood. Without touching anything they will have no effect, however, when needed, they can touch blood vessels and create auric rejection reaction in different spots of the body. Since they're small, effect of each individual nanomachine is probably weak, but because of the sheer amount of them, and because they're spreaded across the body, they can make painful, but not lethal effect

hushed geyser
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DISCORD FUCKED UP MOBILE AGAIN WTF

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Whatever

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They got rid of the dms button that was so nice

scenic yacht
tropic oak
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Hello lorians

formal nymph
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I will not ask again.

hushed geyser
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He gonna hit us with a yharic flash

fading siren
fading siren
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Who’s the real one

wheat walrus
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if so this is the second yharim user who did/does powerscaling

hushed geyser
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Duel each other

formal nymph
wheat walrus
formal nymph
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I kinda moved on from scaling for the most part, but I retain most of my knowledge of it.

wheat walrus
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fair

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now I'm out there calculating the stupidest shit a man could calculate

fierce pagoda
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Whats the ranking between Scal, Fovos, Noxus and Yharim. Who has most AP and who has most Destructive capabilities

sinful adder
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what's AP again?

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In terms of raw power:
Noxus >>> Fovos > Scal >>> Yharim.
In terms of power combined with combat skill (who would win)
Noxus > Fovos > Yharim > Scal.

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...I think

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there's the fully correct ranking out there somewhere, can't remember exactly what it was

paper zenith
pliant ruin
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Yall discord sent me one of those convo notifications and it was like

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"Lore discussion: Yharim and Scaling"

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And all i could think was
"Oh theyre at it again"

sinful adder
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Lol yeah

lime basin
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doesn't she literally say that she has no chance against Yharim in her own fight

wheat walrus
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destructiveness

tepid swift
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Boring asshole with sword vs witch that controls fire and brimstone

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Yea checks out

wheat walrus
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scal's attacks are more destructive since they are fiery blasts

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Yharim is mainly sword and fists

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I will say tho

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Yharim could prolly slash entire buildings down and cause lower-end earthquakes with its fists

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but still

wheat walrus
humble fog
wicked dragon
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Im about to get one of my friends into calamity, and I want them to know the lore but I don't want to overwhelm them. Where would be a good starting point for the be?

jaunty wraith
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You fool, there is a being that could solo EVERYTHING calamity

wheat walrus
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actually no

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most of fiction

wheat walrus
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fr

sinful adder
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Calamitas is physically strong, while Yharim is like the player: Weak but very good at dodging and hitting the right place

sinful adder
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Yes

jaunty wraith
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Do we even know how yharim would fight?

lime basin
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9 foot tall humanoid with high-tech Auric armor swinging around a Buster Sword-sized weapon

wheat walrus
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who allowed you to cook

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Calamitas' thing is not being physically strong

lime basin
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him being "weak" can't be real

wheat walrus
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it's having strong magics

sinful adder
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I'm considering magic as equivalent to physical strength here

wheat walrus
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even the developers stated that Calamitas' durability without magic is as high as other humans

wheat walrus
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from what I've seen, no one refers to magic as physical strength so yeah

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unless

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said magic enhances physical strength

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which isn't really the case here

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Calamitas just blasts you with brimstone flames

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and has other magicks as well

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Yharim is the one that's physically powerful

plucky flicker
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i am a Calamitas supremacist

sinful adder
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Yeah, fair

plucky flicker
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my goat hits you with Strong Fire

wheat walrus
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Calamitas is the one that has powerful and destructive abilities as well as magics and a whole bunch of abilities
Yharim is the one that has a shitton of brute physical strength, armor and sword, and a shitton of experience and skill

jaunty wraith
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Calamitas isn't even that well rounded with magic

sinful adder
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But I mean that Yharim is physically strong but his combat ability comes primarily from skill rather than his strength (even though he is also pretty strong physically), whereas calamitas is also strong, but her combat ability relies primarily on her strength (magical in this case)

jaunty wraith
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It's been stated numorous time that any magic thats not brimstone flames calamitas struggles with heavely

wheat walrus
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she's still very skilled (was trained by the dude titled "Archmage"), and is the strongest mage in the world

lime basin
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Not doubting that at all

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I just think she's significantly weaker than Yharim and gets her ass handed to her by him in a fight

wheat walrus
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of course

formal nymph
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Yes.

wheat walrus
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if Yharim punches her bubble shield thing she uses ingame once, it'd probably be very cracked, and without that Calamitas gets Saitama'd by Yharim technically

wheat walrus
sinful adder
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I see

jaunty wraith
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Heres an idea

sinful adder
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I haven't looked at draetalk yet, I'm waiting for the sunken sea update for a new playthrough

jaunty wraith
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since yharim is supposed to be the final challange, what if he is sufficant in all 5 classes

formal nymph
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Wasn’t it also confirmed somewhere some time ago that Yharim’s boss fight would take a lot of inspiration from Senator Armstrong’s boss fight?

wheat walrus
formal nymph
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I need Yharim to scream “JUDGMENT” and drop kick the player. It’s now a necessity.

jaunty wraith
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For the first 20 seconds of the fight he just stands there tanking all the damage you do to him

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Now that I think about it

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It has to be this way" Fits way to well for the battle between the terrarian and yharim

sinful adder
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he's a bit different now.

violet spoke
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what does draedon think of name "The Arsenal" given to his weapon project by the soldiers

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does he like it

plucky flicker
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i love calamitas

frigid ibex
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The player character's lore is left almost entirely to the player's interpretation, correct?

jaunty wraith
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People always sleep on her clone, why not love her?

jaunty wraith
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All we know is that we must ascend beyond the enemies control

frigid ibex
frigid ibex
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Does it imply that the player character suddenly woke up in the world?

crimson finch
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(JoJo reference)

frigid ibex
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Also does the player character canonically know/hear the lore items?

jaunty wraith
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Pretty sure they do

oblique comet
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yeah

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lore items are planned to be changed tho

frigid ibex
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"'Whispers from on high dance in your ears..."

oblique comet
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so you get info in another form

frigid ibex
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Any clue on how soon that will be?

jaunty wraith
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We also know that respawns aernt cannon

frigid ibex
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We also know that he is canonically a master craftsman thanks to it being confirmed that the player created Miracle Matter before even Draedon.

jaunty wraith
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We also know that they are bad at naming things (By draedons account atleast)

frigid ibex
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A canonical explanation for bad item names. Damn, the dev team is good!

jaunty wraith
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Theres not much else though

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The terrarian much like in vanilla is a black slate we project ourselves on

frigid ibex
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Definitely in some regards, but there are certainly some aspects about the character that must be set-in-stone for the lore and story to work.

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Currently, the lore items are Yharim talking to us directly?

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"Whispers from on high dance in your ears..." suggests that the player is canonically hearing something; Yharim's reaction to Permafrost being alive suggests that these lore items are his current thoughts and not a reflection or "echo" of his former words; and he is shown to speak directly to the player character, even asking them of things, thus confirming that Yharim is intentionally contacting us.

sinful adder
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Yharim canonically has a way to telepathically communicate with the player. We don't know why he has this, most likely it is just a temporary thing for until there are better ways of showing the lore

frigid ibex
sinful adder
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that item predates the new lore

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I'm pretty sure its not canon

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he was a strong mage in old lore

stuck bane
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I imagine him being a melee user who dashes constantly

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Like that one infernum boss kinda

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Bereft vassal

frigid ibex
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If anything, I would imagine him to be a master of all classes.

sinful adder
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he is very much not

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he does melee, and only melee

frigid ibex
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Is there a source?

sinful adder
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literally all official art of him has him using a sword

stuck bane
sinful adder
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and only a sword

stuck bane
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That doesn’t mean he doesn’t ever use anything else

sinful adder
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he has never once been shown to use anything else, directly or indirectly

stuck bane
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There is very little proof of his fighting style so far

sinful adder
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That's like saying we don't know permafrost doesn't use guns. It would be silly if he did

stuck bane
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And very little art

tall delta
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Im pretty sure a lore writter said yharim is only melee

sinful adder
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all evidence we have points to him using only melee

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even without official statements

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the causic edge used to be his sword, for example

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before it was renamed

stuck bane
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I wouldn’t be surprised if he’s melee I’m just saying I wouldn’t be surprised if he used magic or rogue for some attacks in his fight

wheat walrus
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ok guys

stuck bane
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And I think it fits for him to be melee

sinful adder
frigid ibex
wheat walrus
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I get that Yharim's class is a highly controversial topic that has ended the world at least twice but prepare yourselves since the lorewyrm is coming

stuck bane
sinful adder
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I guess that's fair, but still we have tons of statements proving what it is, just not in game

spring helm
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Hello lore chat, what’s crackalakin?

sinful adder
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the same conversations for the millionth time, of course

spring helm
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Yharim?

wheat walrus
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it will eat your lore!!!

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beware

stuck bane
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Autocorrect

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I meant lore

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Ok

wheat walrus
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loreous

frigid ibex
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I concede that Yharim likely defaults to melee (melee is the default class in general), but my problem is that having him strictly use melee is a little boring and implies to that the canonical class for the player is also melee in order to be a perfect parallel.

wheat walrus
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the player is your oc

frigid ibex
stuck bane
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Everyone says this channel has the same conversations. So I’m here to spice it up

spring helm
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Yharim may be melee, but it’s not like melee is strictly close up fighting in Calamity, or even Terraria

stuck bane
tall delta
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Powerscaling powerscaling goku solos calamity scal scal draedon permafrost

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yhar

wheat walrus
tall delta
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não

wheat walrus
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yanno I'm killing people you know

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:33333333

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killings

tall delta
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não

stuck bane
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Guys

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Urgent

wheat walrus
stuck bane
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What calamity character could beat LeBron in a basketball 1v1? Now that’s interesting.

stuck bane
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We need to know

spring helm
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Permafrost

stuck bane
stuck bane
wheat walrus
spring helm
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He’s like that

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Got that old man wizard skills

wheat walrus
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there's nothing contradicting me beating lebaron janes in a basketballa 1v1

frigid ibex
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How long ago was Ilmeris destoryed?

spring helm
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Maybe Braelor, he’s a big guy

stuck bane
wheat walrus
wheat walrus
stuck bane
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Statis could too

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Yharim could easily

frigid ibex
wheat walrus
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also cal's age

stuck bane
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I feel like permafrost is short, but I don’t have a source

wheat walrus
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she was a teen during Ilmeris

stuck bane
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So I don’t think he can dunk

spring helm
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Calamitas was a kid when she joined the Crusade, she’s in her late twenties now

wheat walrus
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and iirc she is canonically in her 20s when she fights us

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yes

spring helm
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So there’s our time frame

frigid ibex
spring helm
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Shortlamitas

frigid ibex
wheat walrus
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time to monster hunter guys

stuck bane
spring helm
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At longest I’d give it twenty years between her joining Yharim and the game’s start

frigid ibex
stuck bane
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What’s illmeris

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Dumb question

wheat walrus
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sea kingdom

stuck bane
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Ah

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Former seas

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Amidas is the true guardian of the former seas

wheat walrus
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the namedrop!!!!!!!!!!

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tiltedrop!!!!!!!!

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aaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

stuck bane
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Except not really cuz he got eaten by a clam

frigid ibex
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He just did a very poor job at it

wheat walrus
stuck bane
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Where would be the best dropping place if the calamity world was in Fortnite lol

frigid ibex
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Is the Underground Desert supposed to be the remains of Ilmeris? If so, why are the stuctures so desert themed?

frigid ibex
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No, I mean the houses and the loot.

stuck bane
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Ohhh

stuck bane
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Like pharaohs mask

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Uh

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Terraria devs don’t know calamity lore that’s why

spring helm
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she likely had a few years to be trained by permafrost

frigid ibex
scenic olive
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Can you boil The abyss

frigid ibex
stuck bane
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That’s why it’s desert themed

scenic olive
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how much energy does it took to turn it into a giant soup in a pot

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Omni

frigid ibex
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It produces its own water.

stuck bane
stuck bane
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Tf

wheat walrus
earnest flare
wheat walrus
scenic olive
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How big abyss compared to ilmeris

wheat walrus
wheat walrus
frigid ibex
# stuck bane It does?

Search "Draining the Abyss Terraria Calamity" on YouTube and find the videos by "Aggressive Bungee."

earnest flare
wheat walrus
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I will eat you

wheat walrus
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pushingtron eyes are good

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:33333333333333

spring helm
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nuke calamitas back

frigid ibex
wheat walrus
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ok nvm enough wildings

spring helm
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SUPERNOVA

scenic olive
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Stop making her eat supernova

stuck bane
spring helm
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bomb them again

sinful adder
scenic olive
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why does Cal lose her ashen grey skin in the new sprite

spring helm
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yeah i still dont know the dev reason for that

sinful adder
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I think it should have been kept

spring helm
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sunburnt calamitas

sinful adder
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maybe because the demons are what are left of her kind?

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terraria demons have pink skin

wheat walrus
# wheat walrus lemme check actually

yeah any earthquake that has a magnitude of 8,9 or above would surpass Calamitas' Ilmeris incineration in terms of energy

that's still extremely impressive considering they both make stuff like nukes look miniscule in comparison

compact ridge
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do we know what calamitas's rogues are made of? what cloth can survive Brimstone Flames?

frigid ibex
spring helm
sinful adder
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it could also be magically enhanced cloth

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that's like, a thing that probably exists

scenic olive
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they live in hell afterall

frigid ibex
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But this is Brim fire

wheat walrus
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azafurous

scenic olive
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Still fire

frigid ibex
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They can make Brimfire-proof clothes but not Brimfire-proof houses?

scenic olive
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im pretty sure shes immune to all kinds of fire debuff

scenic olive
frigid ibex
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Hmmm...

scenic olive
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brimstone hellblast isnt lethal because its made of brimstone flames, its because youre getting by a fast moving fireball

real silo
wheat walrus
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bringing this back cause I think I'll do a speed calc on astrum deus

fierce blaze
eager bluff
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brimflame proof no brimstone and lava resistant yes

fading siren
mighty zenith
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im the real yharman

buoyant inlet
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Hi yharnam

crimson finch
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What if Moon Lord was called Goon Lord and instead of Lording the Moon he died?

mighty zenith
formal nymph
keen hearth
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Yharperson

wheat walrus
scenic olive
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Yharsoul

latent bolt
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yharring

cloud ibex
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i disagree

real silo
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yhanded

hushed geyser
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Yharwoman

floral nymph
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Yharsan

hushed geyser
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Yharchan

cloud ibex
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no

buoyant inlet
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Yrimir

floral nymph
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Yharbidi

latent bolt
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yharbringer

keen hearth
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Yharmother

wheat walrus
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yhariferous

hushed geyser
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Yharnuts

fierce pagoda
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We need more tooltips for materials

keen hearth
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What materials?

fierce pagoda
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None of the cores have any tooltips, and the bars dont either

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We dont NEED any perse

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But it would be nice

keen hearth
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What toolthop tho?

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Like explaining what they are?

fierce pagoda
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Yes exactly

nimble mortar
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is the "ares would have had swords but i couldnt get it to work properly" bit from draedon a reference to infernum? or is infernum referencing old concepts for ares?

cloud ibex
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before the last rewrite ares was canonically unfinished when you fight draedon

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if he in theory was finished he would've had another pair of arms, some sort of pulse weapon + a melee weapon

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might be a nod to that

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or it could be neither idk

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he's a floating skeleton samurai eva, him having swords seems like a fairly reasonable step without it necessarily referencing either old lore or infernum

hardy roost
nimble mortar
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last i saw footage of the fight he had 2 extra arms, both with phaseslayers

fading siren
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(Doom guy sword)

nimble mortar
turbid wind
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Nope it's two annoying swords that are a hassle to learn how to dodge

hardy roost
turbid wind
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Draedon really wanted that weapon but couldn't make it work with the other 4 arms

turbid wind
turbid wind
hardy roost
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But uh, in lore, why does the guide die when you summon the WoF?

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Like, the wall of flesh is the essence of slain gods, but there’s just some random mf terrarian that’s an encyclopedia and also seems to die from the WoF’s existence??

spiral sorrel
graceful otter
solar wharf
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because either they actually come after you (you dont summon them) or they dont make sense

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like calamitas actually COMES after you

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you dont summon her

kindred cape
spiral sorrel
hardy roost
nimble mortar
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terraria lore does not mean anything for calamity lore

graceful otter
solar wharf
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which isnt true because...

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god of scarifices is ravager.

graceful otter
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wat if its just sealed and u need to kill someone to break it

nimble mortar
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for calamity i dont think theres an explanation

i figure since cal WoF is just like, a vessel for the evils of the world (right? am i misremembering), then the guide is just. a vessel for the vessel

graceful otter
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and it just so happens the voodoo dolls kill the guide first

nimble mortar
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since they cant have the WoF roaming around down there

solar wharf
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not evil worlds

graceful otter
solar wharf
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evil worlds happen because god esscenes TRIES to reform itself

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which turns into biomes

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hallowed being good god

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gods*

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corruption/crimson being evil ones

nimble mortar
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thats the bitch

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thank you

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my point still stands tho

hardy roost
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Also in lore, Silva REALLY doesn’t wanna “die”

solar wharf
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its mostly because she cant

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silva

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is an elemental which means

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she has a domain

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and that just happens to be life

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and to kill an elemental

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you need to kill the domain

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or atleast theortically

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which you know...

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you would need to kill everyone

hardy roost
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If she dies, EVERYTHING dies

nimble mortar
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does this mean that we dont actually kill brimmy

solar wharf
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yes

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neither anahita

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or sand elementals

nimble mortar
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anahita's not an elemental, i thought

solar wharf
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we do kill the leviathon tho

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she is

nimble mortar
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oh

solar wharf
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shes the water elemental

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she angy because silva took over abyss

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which is her domain

hardy roost
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AFAIK it seems that most bosses either run away, or come after us. Except for aquatic scourge

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Poor aquatic scourge

kindred cape
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and crabulon

hardy roost
kindred cape
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true

spiral sorrel
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Anahita really got her domain taken AND her best friend killed
Not a good life icl

solar wharf
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aquatic scourge im pretty sure is the only one that didnt attack us

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every other boss either attacked us or straight up looked for us and attacked

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old duke didnt look for us but... we were in his territory so

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same goes for dragonfolly

hardy roost
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Either way, the terrarian seems to be in a menace

spiral sorrel
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Is there any lore explanation as to why the player has such insane power growth
I mean ain't they just a human? Do they have some innate potential or something?

solar wharf
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what the terrarain kills is up to ur playthrough, so whether you kill all optional bosses or keep them all alive

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or kill some

kindred cape
solar wharf
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thats up to you

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so if you want them to be a meance

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then ye u can make them one

turbid wind
spiral sorrel
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we need Terraria pacifist calamity add-on fr

turbid wind
turbid wind
spiral sorrel
solar wharf
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the terrarain might not even be human

turbid wind
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There won't be a reason as to why

kindred cape
graceful otter
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do u know wat this line means

turbid wind
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Yeah like man is extremely different

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Than other terrarians

spiral sorrel
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Does noone in the cal universe question why the terrarian can grow so strong 😭
I mean yharim had yharon and the ability to incite willpower in his armies
We just built different idk

mighty zenith
turbid wind
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That's how I interpreted it

graceful otter
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no it just means "damn this rando grew in power pretty quick huh, bet he doesnt know shit about most the world"

hardy roost
solar wharf
kindred cape
spiral sorrel
hardy roost
turbid wind
#

And without auric soul attunement

calm patio
#

also. i would count yharim as a "terrarian"

spiral sorrel
solar wharf
solar wharf
#

but we fought his guardians

#

not himself

turbid wind
hardy roost
solar wharf
#

yharim is human

spiral sorrel
solar wharf
#

queen slime too

#

queen slime isnt SG

graceful otter
#

queen slime is sg

solar wharf
#

sg is STUCK inside queen slime

hardy roost
solar wharf
turbid wind
#

Slime god is stuck inside his paladin queen slime

solar wharf
#

thats what i have been told lol

graceful otter
solar wharf
#

ye

#

so queen slime isnt sg

#

but we do kill them both

kindred cape
#

doesn't the lore item say that queen slime is the new guardian of sg

graceful otter
#

?

solar wharf
#

because sg couldnt escape

solar wharf
#

im confused

graceful otter
#

queen slime is sg

turbid wind
#

Yeah since you kill queen slime you kill slime god

solar wharf
#

in what sense?

graceful otter
#

stop trying to overcomplicate it

turbid wind
#

To my knowledge queen slime is hallow paladin

#

And slime god is slime god

nimble mortar
#

hold on can i post a leftist wall of text explaining (my thoughts on) why each of the bosses attacks you

graceful otter
#

and

#

where the fuck

#

is slime god

#

_ _

#

INSIDE

#

THE PALADIN

turbid wind
#

The crystal?

nimble mortar
#

slime god is the crystal

graceful otter
#

STUCK

solar wharf
# graceful otter stop trying to overcomplicate it

Having fled after your battle, it seems the Slime God fashioned a new guardian from the unleashed essences.
Ensnared in the absorption process of its newfound power… it could not flee again.
Or perhaps it was overcome by arrogance or desperation.
A glorious hunt, a fine foe. Now you know you must chase them to the ends of Terraria.

nimble mortar
#

yeah

spiral sorrel
#

I thought queen slime was slime god's creation, we just chased down slime god after we killed queen slime and got him cus he was too tired

buoyant inlet
#

Noob that's literally what they're saying

#

Chill out

mighty zenith
#

slime god couldnt flee from the inside of queen slime and died

solar wharf
#

bro what is noob on about

#

im so confused

mighty zenith
#

collateral damage

graceful otter
#

you dont need to overcomplicate it

#

just say qs is sg

turbid wind
#

Chill out my man

solar wharf
#

im explaining the lore tho???

graceful otter
#

they are practically the same

nimble mortar
#

funny that the first god we kill is like. early hard mode

solar wharf
#

thats the entire point of an explanation

turbid wind
solar wharf
#

yeah but to say that isnt right because he isnt LITERALLY queen slime

hardy roost
keen hearth
#

Is it true that one of the reasons astrageldon was entirely removed was because he didn't fit on the lore because he's steonger than slime god?

buoyant inlet
#

He was removed because he sucked

turbid wind
graceful otter
left topaz
#

I though slime god was trapped inside the crystal in qs

calm patio
#

geldon was just

#

king slime

mighty zenith
#

geldon was removed because it was a terrible boss

calm patio
#

back then

turbid wind
spiral sorrel
#

Is anyone gonna talk about how yharim taught us how incorrectly disposing of a god's essence is a very bad thing
But we just dump the essence of the gods we kill wherever

graceful otter
#

geldon was just king slime with projectiles iirc

nimble mortar
#

i like the idea of an astral slime boss but also it wasnt. anything

mighty zenith
#

it was easier to just overhaul it entirely cause
we really didnt need another slime boss

hardy roost
keen hearth
mighty zenith
#

thats
what happened

keen hearth
#

And replaced

mighty zenith
#

aureus is
overhauled geldon

kindred cape
mighty zenith
#

completely overhauled

turbid wind
calm patio
keen hearth
#

For nearly the same thing

nimble mortar
solar wharf
mighty zenith
#

you cant argue aureus is less unique than geldon

keen hearth
#

But with lasers

mighty zenith
#

no??

hardy roost
mighty zenith
#

not even close

solar wharf
#

DAMN

keen hearth
#

They're both easy

spiral sorrel
solar wharf
#

garbo defending his lover...

mighty zenith
#

thats on the level of "yharon is just duke"

turbid wind
keen hearth
#

And just walk around and spawn stuff to hit you directly

calm patio
graceful otter
turbid wind
#

Yharon is just duke

graceful otter
#

that sgs method of fighting isnt them fighting because theyre slimes?

mighty zenith
#

aureus is similar because they both use modified mourning wood/everscream ai

keen hearth
solar wharf
#

we are just confusing each other further

#

just stop this

mighty zenith
#

do you consider provi to just be an ice queen?

kindred cape
turbid wind
#

Slime god is like a commander

nimble mortar
#

ok so in the fight started by the overloaded sludge item, you fight the ebonian and crimulan paladins, which are just big slimes. slime god is there, but it just kinda watches you like draedon does, and fucks off when you kill both paladins

in the fight started by the gelatin crystal item, you fight a third paladin (which is just another big slime), but slime god itself is trapped in the paladin, causing it to die when you kill the paladin

calm patio
graceful otter
# solar wharf what?

u replied to a message about qs, and u responded with something about the sg fight

mighty zenith
solar wharf
spiral sorrel
nimble mortar
#

i think the only particularly fair boss comparison is ravager and golem

mighty zenith
#

spawning killable minions = thats like half of the bosses in the game

keen hearth
spiral sorrel
keen hearth
#

Aureus... doesn't change much

graceful otter
solar wharf
#

yes, to control

nimble mortar
#

and like. i guess QB and PBG but thats because theyre the same boss in different forms :lul:

keen hearth
solar wharf
#

we are still basically fighting queen slimes power under control of SG

spiral sorrel
random mulch
#

coldtism be damned my boi is dripped the fuck out

graceful otter
nimble mortar
#

this is the slime god

mighty zenith
#

they use the same ai as a base
thats why theyre similar

spiral sorrel
#

Qs*

graceful otter
turbid wind
keen hearth
#

Honestly, Aureus shooting lasers mid air rather when landing would already be a huge step up

random mulch
nimble mortar
#

this is also slime god. i feel like calamity should resprite this bit but

graceful otter
#

u still havent made a point on why the qs fight isnt fighting sg

turbid wind
keen hearth
#

L

nimble mortar
#

L

spiral sorrel
mighty zenith
#

im not saying aureus is perfect but its not a clone of crabulon

solar wharf
#

wrong

#

WRONG REPLY

keen hearth
#

Feel different but looks similar

solar wharf
#

even tho exo mechs are both creation and completely under control of draedon

nimble mortar
#

lol

kindred cape
graceful otter
#

the exos are individual from draedon

spiral sorrel
#

I mean I would encase myself in crystal for protection

graceful otter
#

they dont share the same mind

turbid wind
#

Slime god is a summoner

solar wharf
#

so how come SG is stuck inside queen slime if they are one noob?

nimble mortar
#

tired

mighty zenith
solar wharf
#

and why are the slime we fight called guardians?

#

if its just SG

#

but disconnected.

spiral sorrel
#

So yes

solar wharf
#

and why do they need to be created?

spiral sorrel
#

Draedon isn't in a chair with a controller controlling the exos

turbid wind
#

Damn

solar wharf
#

im not saying they have free will, im saying just because they are completely under control of sg does NOT make them 1 with SG

turbid wind
mighty zenith
#

honestly i feel like the only reason people say they're similar is because aureus faces the screen when walking (which i fucking hate, it looks dumb and doesnt make sense considering hes not a crab)

keen hearth
graceful otter
solar wharf
#

no, im saying if we want to go more specific, we are fighting QS

keen hearth
#

I also wasn't even thinking about them both being front facing

solar wharf
#

the entire point was that, we never ACTUALLY, and i mean ACTUALLY fought SG

keen hearth
#

They just play out similarly

spiral sorrel
turbid wind
#

Wasn't the entire point that queen slime and slime god different entities?

nimble mortar
#

YOU ONLY FIGHT THE PALADINS

NOTHING ABOUT EITHER FIGHT INVOLVES SLIME GOD DIRECTLY

keen hearth
#

Aureus is just more complicated yet as easy as crabulon on the long run

solar wharf
#

^

#

idk why i even bothered with this, i said its just a misunderstanding and i still continued

nimble mortar
#

im unsure as to what is confusing here /nm

solar wharf
#

my bad

turbid wind
#

I thought all of this started because someone thought queen slime is the same person as slime god

keen hearth
#

I like Aureus as a concept, design, theme and all but his fight is just.... eurh

mighty zenith
#

i imagine aureus has a similar shape to metagross

nimble mortar
#

well if that was the case i dont think theyre here anymore

keen hearth
#

I have fun during it but it's just too easy

nimble mortar
#

so we can drop the discussion lol

#

i actually struggle with AA a bit

solar wharf
#

i already was planning to

mighty zenith
#

with four limbs with 90 degree space between them and the head in the middle

graceful otter
mighty zenith
#

but its sprite looks like aureus is just really wide

nimble mortar
#

oh my god

mighty zenith
#

and has four legs on the same side next to each other

#

its such a weird design

solar wharf
#

this example doesnt work but im not gonna bother

#

this reaches nowhere

#

if i make a point then you will

graceful otter
#

just because sg's way of fighting uses slimes doesnt mean theyre not fighting you

solar wharf
#

sure

turbid wind
#

All of this happened cause some thought slime god and Queen slime were the same person lol

spiral sorrel
#

Its armed but its not meant to fight

nimble mortar
#

i know its an addon so this isnt canon but that analogy would be better suited to the goozma fight i think

#

but. anyway

#

i think aureus should look like a bacteriophage

#

if they ever redesign it again. im not saying they need to i just think it would be cool

keen hearth
turbid wind
#

I would say make it Aureus look more Draedony

nimble mortar
#

i think it looks pretty draedon-y as is

#

its just. very clearly an astral entity now

spiral sorrel
#

I mean it has to look infected

keen hearth
nimble mortar
#

yeah!

keen hearth
#

Without some giant gem looking thing on his top he really doesn't resemble one

nimble mortar
#

i know!!

keen hearth
#

Unless it was ripped off or smth

graceful otter
#

i dont like how aureus has the grey stuff or the monolith on it

nimble mortar
#

im saying it should

keen hearth
#

The legs also not skinny at all

mighty zenith
#

and a design like that could probably scale terrain well

nimble mortar
#

im just a sucker for these thigns tbh

graceful otter
keen hearth
nimble mortar
#

it doesnt NEED to be precise, its a scout

#

it just needs to Go

humble fog
keen hearth
#

What if traversing a minefield

#

Absolutely tripping over

nimble mortar
#

ITS A SCOUT

#

ITS NOT DOING THAT

#

you dont send scouts into places that you know are minefields ya dummy

keen hearth
#

If anything scouts would be really fast moving

nimble mortar
#

YES. AND AUREUS IS

#

have you SEEN the fucker??? jumps like a maniac

keen hearth
#

He slower than my ass with terraspark boots

fierce pagoda
#

You're driving rosy insane here

nimble mortar
#

lol

graceful otter
#

aureus' main purpose is to be all terrain

spring helm
#

All aurrein

nimble mortar
#

i figure most of draedon's aureus units are way smaller

#

just the one he sent into the astral infection was that large because he was still not sure what actually caused the infection, and thought if it were big enough it wouldnt succumb as easily

nimble mortar
graceful otter
nimble mortar
#

mhm

#

obviously in hindsight thats a stupid idea but hes a scientist

#

he learns by doing

turbid wind
#

Yeah of course

graceful otter
#

i mean he does say it technically worked, if only for a short bit

turbid wind
#

Can't learn without committing a few small mistakes

#

Just very SMALL mistakes

nimble mortar
#

*looks at the sulphur sea*

#

yeah, small

humble fog
mighty zenith
#

yea my guess is there are several variants of aureus models

#

some are bulkier and very armed

nimble mortar
#

interesting headcanon from garbo the aureus lover

#

/lh

mighty zenith
#

some are smaller and made to collect scrap and stuff or just scout out areas

humble fog
mighty zenith
#

the biggest one

nimble mortar
graceful otter
#

literally says that

mighty zenith
#

ok

#

i still havent read draetalk

#

checkmate nerds

graceful otter
#

dumbass

kindred cape
#

you should

graceful otter
#

go read it

nimble mortar
#

get your ass in gear, maggot

mighty zenith
keen hearth
kindred cape
nimble mortar
#

that doesnt mean hes GONNA

proven fossil
#

you should read draetalk, NOW!!! FallWithinMyCalculations

graceful otter
#

its got research data

nimble mortar
#

you know what i kinda want to see, come to think of it

kindred cape
#

how does the terrarian even survive acid rain

graceful otter
#

how sulphur affects life, how radiation affects life, how silva affects life

#

draedon is a biologist

nimble mortar
#

some of the roadmap teasers said something about braelor giving you little side quests in the distortion, right?

proven fossil
keen hearth
nimble mortar
#

i think draedon should give us some too

#

research opportunities he cant access for whatever reason

kindred cape
keen hearth
#

Not THAT acid but still

kindred cape
#

damn

nimble mortar
#

ok the acid rain is likely the same water that the sea is made of, yeah? so theres no reason for it to have different properties

however raindrops are fucking tiny?

proven fossil
#

raindrops are very tiny yes

nimble mortar
#

so like. yeah of course acid rain isnt going to hurt us unless we're standing in it for like, days at a time

keen hearth
nimble mortar
#

weeks, even, given-- yeah

kindred cape
#

quite long time

keen hearth
#

The water is not stupid radioactive to kill things

nimble mortar
#

its like chernobyl

#

like, its not a good idea to stay there too long

#

but the wildlife is fine

#

otherca puppies

keen hearth
#

Wonder if it was way more acidic in the start of the dumping process

#

Amd calmed down since

#

STOP TYPING AMD

nimble mortar
#

oh thats neat

#

i didnt know the little flashes of lights were actual entities

keen hearth
cloud ibex
keen hearth
#

They can be killed, but do they even deal damage or?

nimble mortar
#

theyre like. less than critters

keen hearth
#

They can't even be captured

real silo
#

what the fuck

#

I didn't know this

kindred cape
#

crittern't

keen hearth
#

Plankton useless looking asses

nimble mortar
#

anyway the presence of bioluminescent plankton (assumedly) is interesting

keen hearth
#

They just serve to make you think it's some projectile

nimble mortar
#

oh while we're on the topic

#

what the fuck is the nuclear terror???

graceful otter
#

yes

keen hearth
nimble mortar
#

scary ass

keen hearth
#

With tiny green blob fire guys

kindred cape
#

mb

nimble mortar
#

i mean yeah its a nuclear throne reference but

keen hearth
#

But in Calamity lore they're hyper mutated mix of animals and shit

real silo
#

if you ever feel comfortable just remember the nuclear terror's front feet are attached to it's back leg

keen hearth
#

I think the bestiary said that or smth

nimble mortar
#

i DID notice that

#

thats so fucked

graceful otter
#

its just

#

an animal

nimble mortar
#

The effects of our actions are never immediately obvious. Centuries of poison and constant fighting for its own life created such monstrosity, now dragged to the shore by the unrelenting torrents. Whatever it may have been before, all that is left now is its will to survive.

graceful otter
#

that no one can tell wat it was before

nimble mortar
#

its probably just a fucked up crab

#

most things in this game are just fucked up crabs

keen hearth
#

Can't believe they added help_tale to Calamity

kindred cape
keen hearth
#

Averagely crabulon sized

kindred cape
#

true

nimble mortar
#

crabs are just like that

#

vanilla crabs are actually the outlier for being so small

keen hearth
#

Has anyone ever wonder why regular crabs are hostile in vanilla Terraria

#

Yet scorpions are chilling

pliant ruin
#

cuz everything is hostile in vanilla terraria tbh

nimble mortar
#

ive been under the impression that they dont like, actively hunt you down like most things, they just deal contact damage

mighty zenith
#

the terrarian is scared of them

pliant ruin
#

like.

humble fog
#

Crabs are scary

pliant ruin
#

jellyfish out here trying to kill you

nimble mortar
#

if you stepped on a crab it would probably pinch you

keen hearth
humble fog
#

Scorpions? They get murdered by mice

nimble mortar
#

do they?

mighty zenith
#

you step on the crab and it snaps your foot

keen hearth
#

I think they do

nimble mortar
#

ok then i dont know

#

everything in vnailla just hates you i guess

keen hearth
#

Scorpions do absolutely nothing against you tho

graceful otter
keen hearth
nimble mortar
#

the nuclear terror has back legs that end in the front and middle legs that end in the back

mighty zenith
#

nuclear terror is like a water strider without the things that make water striders work (weight)

nimble mortar
#

it has no front legs

pliant ruin
#

the front legs of the terror are from the back and the back are from the middle

keen hearth
pliant ruin
#

a fucked up water stride

keen hearth
pliant ruin
#

if i had to guess i'd imgine it probably used to be some type of deep sea crustacean but idk lol

#

anyones guess atp

cloud ibex
#

dog

pliant ruin
#

skeleton shrimp comes to mind

nimble mortar
#

consider: its a seahorse with legs

keen hearth
#

I never paid attention to mauler's appearance

pliant ruin
nimble mortar
#

i have no basis for this i just think seahorses are so fucked up

keen hearth
nimble mortar
#

oh thats perfect actually

pliant ruin
#

they're just fat sharks

nimble mortar
pliant ruin
#

alot of animals in the sulphuric seas aren't that fucked up

keen hearth
#

A lot of them are bizarre in some way tho

nimble mortar
#

did you know that sharks are as old as SIRIUS

pliant ruin
#

most likely those that didn't come in too much prolonged contact with radiation and only had to deal with the sulphuric part

pliant ruin
nimble mortar
#

like. alpha canis majoris

#

the north star

keen hearth
nimble mortar
#

brightest star in the night sky

pliant ruin
#

it's much larger than any other shark

nimble mortar
#

sharks are literally older than it

pliant ruin
#

besides reapers

nimble mortar
#

isnt that fucked

keen hearth
humble fog
keen hearth
#

The bug update

pliant ruin
#

ALOT of things r older than it

nimble mortar
#

well yeah duh

pliant ruin
#

if this google search isn't being dumb, which it probably is

nimble mortar
#

but. sharks are STILL AROUND

keen hearth
pliant ruin
#

no like

#

things that are

#

still around

#

alot of them r older than that star

#

i can name like, 30

solar wharf
#

last time i checked, stars cant reproduce

keen hearth
#

A lot of fish mostly

solar wharf
#

well

#

they can

keen hearth
#

Many fish

solar wharf
#

but

nimble mortar
#

stars FUCK

solar wharf
#

man fuck this shit

nimble mortar
#

stars HAVE SEX

humble fog
keen hearth
humble fog
keen hearth
#

My mana involuntarily flex

mighty zenith
#

mana gender

violet spoke
#

can god customize their ascension form

mighty zenith
#

i imagine no

keen hearth
nimble mortar
#

they took their stellar fuckin plasma dick out and they flared on myFUCKING wife

solar wharf
#

OK

#

LMAO

graceful otter
#

ive come to make an announcement

solar wharf
#

WE SHOULD STOP PROBABLY

humble fog
mighty zenith
#

astrum deus is a bitch-ass motherfucker

pliant ruin
humble fog
#

It’s like 3x as many options as a monster hunter games

mighty zenith
#

he ate my fucking wife

pliant ruin
#

well, kind of i guess?

keen hearth
humble fog
#

I shouldn’t have said that

nimble mortar
solar wharf
pliant ruin
#

Gods's ascended form is based of their own personality + the soul they ate

#

iirc, atlesat

humble fog
nimble mortar
#

is that your fucking godsona

mighty zenith
#

does that count

solar wharf
#

i mean

#

sure?

nimble mortar
#

i really need to make my stone god he looks so cool in my mind

keen hearth
#

I'm already losted