Manipulation and Greed
#lore-discussion
pliant ruin
Meanwhile Corruption is associated with Cursed Flames
Which i personally would associate more with outwardly evil attitudes given they don't do anything but burn and destroy
spring helm
man they call it the golden shower, those crimson gods just had a certain liking
though yeah, that is a cool theory
pliant ruin
It's just a random weapon tbh i don't think it has any actual impact on the lore
It's not necessarily ''non canon" i don't think it's just not meaningful
jaunty wraith
The name only exists as a immature joke, theres multible names like that in terraria
pliant ruin
terrarian just went Lol Lmao Golden Shower
jaunty wraith
Let's not forget theres an enemy called Mourning Wood
fierce pagoda
master bait
pliant ruin
Well at the very least that one's actually not canon
fierce pagoda
my favorite one
spring helm
yeah we could just say the terrarian was feeling silly when naming those
fierce pagoda
suspicious looking tentacle with its tooltop "i know what you're thinking"
jaunty wraith
Calamity literally made it cannon that not just the terrarian names the enemies... But they are bad at it
spring helm
sometimes
some of the names are cool
though we could also say that the cool names come from someone else
fierce pagoda
terra blade
jaunty wraith
Art the very least Draedon isn't a fan
fierce pagoda
terrarian named it after himself
I think skeletron prime is better than whatever dreadon named him
HF-03 or something dumb
jaunty wraith
Yeah
fierce pagoda
dont let me catch you on the streets dreadon
jaunty wraith
At least the Exomechs had actuall names after the numbers
spring helm
imagine making a god killing weapon that harnesses the souls of your employer's most loyal soldiers, and some guy you've been watching calls it "Skeletron Prime" before blowing it up
fierce pagoda
were there multiple mechs or only one of each
spring helm
just one of each
jaunty wraith
(Unless you count master death mode War flashbacks)
fierce pagoda
imagine all the time dreadon spent on making the exo mechs, just for us to break them
that's whats bad about machines, they get broken and have to be fixed
fierce pagoda
now he has to spend ages remaking them or upgrading them
spring helm
i'm not sure if he can make the same alloy anymore now that DoG's gone
jaunty wraith
Yharim says that if draedon loses his temper all would be doomed
Is XF-Infinite Hekate what happens if he does?
spring helm
or he just blows up the planet, since that would also doom us all
pliant ruin
Draedon seemed to not hate one name the terrarian apparently made
jaunty wraith
or he just blows up the planet, since that would also doom us all
He blows up the moon in half just to prove a point\
pliant ruin
Draedon seemed to not hate *one* name the terrarian apparently made
Storm Weaver
That's the only name the Terrarian made he didn't immediately belittle them for
spring helm
yeah because the name is cool
miracle matter isn't a bad name imo, Draedon just feels a little insulted that his culmination of decades of research gets called a miracle
stark basalt
Do we know how exactly Yharim got attuned to Yharon?
Is it just cuz they’re best bros?
jaunty wraith
Probably due to both of them being thrown in the lava
jaunty wraith
Do tell
scenic olive
stark basalt
Mokkuuu don’t do this to me
scenic olive
jaunty wraith
Procceds to say to have an idea
Refuses to tell idea
Leaves
Refuses to Elabrate
spring helm
pretty please
stark basalt
I hope it has to do with my favorite character
stark basalt
And a pretty cool insect
stark basalt
Mokkuuu you can’t
cold lion
Calamity x Cllicker Class when?
stark basalt
What’s idea
scenic olive
Youll see
stark basalt
Are you drawing it?
stark basalt
Calamity x Cllicker Class when?
Lore reason for calamity clicker?
pliant ruin
new lore:
hhhhhhhhhhhgngfdsngnfdg
stark basalt
Old lore be like: this slime can actually destroy the universe
cold lion
Lore reason for calamity clicker?
Rule of cool, that's what.
stark basalt
Cheese you’ve changed
pliant ruin
guanhsjwtgbwatgawhnh
stark basalt
You made a server?
stark basalt
Rule of cool, that's what.
That’s badass honestly
pliant ruin
You made a server?
ye
stark basalt
All for fish facts? 👀
spring helm
braelor
why is his axe so big
i dont think he can wrap his hand around the shaft
stark basalt
🤨huh?
spring helm
tree branch handle too thick
stark basalt
Ofc ofc ofc
pliant ruin
All for fish facts? 👀
there may be fish facts
spring helm
i think it would be funny if braelor was just small
the axe looks massive because he's tiny
stark basalt
there may be fish facts
Time to move lore chat to the cheese chat
Braelor is ant sized
novel tulip
Hello lorchat
stark basalt
Hi xeno
floral crane
Is that a gravital
spring helm
"They've finally begun to rebuild. I may not deserve their forgiveness, but I won't let another upstart like you ruin everything!"
Super Calamitas - final phase
or something
Brimstone Kamehameha
spring helm
Oh fuck I erased some of her torso
Hold on a minute
What if Calamitas was betrayed and trapped in the Hyperbolic Time Chamber for 1000 years?
stark basalt
She’d probably die
humble fog
What if Calamitas was betrayed and trapped in the Hyperbolic Time Chamber for 10...
I would be happy
wheat walrus
I would be happy
are you the final boss to Calamitas' life
humble fog
If calamity would let me kill her in the fight then yes
stark basalt
Time to call the simps to defeat you
wheat walrus
Time to call the simps to defeat you
honestly
I'd much rather Mao than the stinky redditors that goon over cal
crimson finch
Simping for Calamitas? We would never
humble fog
I'd much rather Mao than the stinky redditors that goon over cal
My calamitas house is THE best
I’ve sent this like 3 times
I need a worse house
Here
surreal gulch
Who lived in the snowy crack shack was it the mechanic or the archmage? I mean that doesn't really make sense so maybe the mechanic?
or Statis apparently he's somewhere in the world
sinful adder
Probably the mechanic
I say this because she likes the tundra, the house has that workbench in the basement, and has building tools in the chest if I remember correctly
surreal gulch
ya
sinful adder
The house being relatively recently damaged would check out with her being kidnapped and thrown in the dungeon recently
Although who knows why she's there in calamity lore
surreal gulch
was the dungeon meant for like prisoners or something like that
sinful adder
Yes, but that was at least a decade ago, whereas the mechanic has only been there for a short time
surreal gulch
some cult or the old man
sinful adder
The dragon cult, but they were driven out by polterghast
The old man makes sense and kidnapped her in vanilla lore, but we don't have a reason why he'd do that in calamity lore
surreal gulch
he was cursed
it's even referred to by some NPCs so some maybe some curse drove him to do that
scenic olive
bath water
untold bluff
😐
spring helm
the biome?
latent bolt
the shimmer probably is a kind of substance used to break down materials and turn them into new ones
id probably bet draedon would mess around with it
ignore the fact that i am known to joke about the shimmer being empress of light’s bathwater
spring helm
the shimmer probably is a kind of substance used to break down materials and tur...
exo prism moment
untold bluff
~~ignore the fact that i am known to joke about the shimmer being empress of lig...
killing you
latent bolt
could be used as another source of exo prisms
latent bolt
killing you
fair
untold bluff
💥
scenic olive
sinful adder
it's even referred to by some NPCs so some maybe some curse drove him to do that
We know he's cursed, the problem is we don't know what a demon possessing an old man would want with a mechanic living like a mile or two away
latent bolt
what were you warned for
surreal gulch
We know he's cursed, the problem is we don't know what a demon possessing an old...
ya you got me hmmm
forest knot
Don’t forget John Hallow
Also me when someone calls the Hallow the “Hollow:”
Like, HALLOW IS GOOD, HOLLOW IS EMPTY
cosmic zenith
So true
Anyways would you recommend the Rouge class?
latent bolt
rouge class involves stealing gems
tall delta
Is draedon not able to create a stabilized miracle matter
since It requires galactica singularity
and galactica singularity are made with the fragments of the pillars, which are dead
latent bolt
auric bars
tall delta
Oh i forgor there is auric bars too
latent bolt
thats the only thing i can think of that draedon might not be able to get to obtain stable miracle matter
jaunty wraith
Also if the frost moon, pumpkin moon, and solar eclipse aren't cannon... How the hell do you canonically get the ascendent spirit essence
latent bolt
Distortion
tall delta
the items are canon but the method you get them isnt
jaunty wraith
Are there gonna be new methods planned in the future... To be hoenst having the main goal after the DoG being 3 events that aren't even changed beyond stats is kind of lame
fierce pagoda
the moon event materials are getting scrapped entirely and getting replaced with distortion themed materials once it gets added I heard
and you also get them in the distortion
jaunty wraith
Shame the materials themselves are being scrapped
There could be enemies in the distortion themed after them
spring helm
So true
Anyways would you recommend the Rouge class?
yeah
jaunty wraith
Okay so I keep seeing a lot of fan art that shows yharim having a handsome Chad face under the helmet
Dudes face is probably scarred with permanent burn marks, he was literally thrown into lava
brazen moth
that’s what i’m saying
also why would you call him a chad? he’s literally a genocidal tyrant
fierce pagoda
Doesnt get more chad than that
brazen moth
latent bolt
i swear i saw another artwork of yharim with his face being a cybernetically enhanced skull?
fierce pagoda
That sounds sick as hell
jaunty wraith
also why would you call him a chad? he’s literally a genocidal tyrant
I mean chad as he he's got the chad squidward face
(Not literally but the same general idea)
brazen moth
people complicate or responsible for genocide are not chads
fierce pagoda
Artist have a habit of drawing characters more attractive than they really are
This is probably because it makes the art more pleasant to look at
wheat walrus
Artist have a habit of drawing characters more attractive than they really are
all the big boobs calamitas art... 😭
spring helm
if i can make a world where everyone is beautiful, i will
jaunty wraith
if i can make a world where everyone is beautiful, i will
If everyone is beutiful... Noone is
spring helm
If everyone is beutiful... Noone is
dont care, looks good to me
wheat walrus
sexualize*
yeah
fierce pagoda
Because she is a woman
wheat walrus
you would not sexualize this.
sinful adder
So true
Anyways would you recommend the Rouge class?
I have never played it and I am a firm believer that all rouge items should have been either melee or ranged
jaunty wraith
Unpopular opinion, I think her chubbier redesign is prettier
brazen moth
Unpopular opinion, I think her chubbier redesign is prettier
i wouldn’t say prettier, but i do prefer it
fierce pagoda
Shes chubbier now?
wheat walrus
I guess
jaunty wraith
Not fully confirmed
brazen moth
Shes chubbier now?
ye, and more pink
jaunty wraith
Some say it's her armor
fierce pagoda
Are you talkng aboug the respeite?
wheat walrus
ye
jaunty wraith
Some say it's her armor
(Those who say that are just coping)
fierce pagoda
She looks the same to me
wheat walrus
it's wider cause it's not a fully side view tbf, but still I really don't care
fierce pagoda
Just different
brazen moth
i want to imagine a world where calamitas is chubbier
spring helm
she's not even chubbier lol, she's just more front facing now
wheat walrus
she's not even chubbier lol, she's just more front facing now
what I was sayin
fierce pagoda
All that brinstone magic must be burning a lot of calories
cosmic zenith
I have never played it and I am a firm believer that all rouge items should have...
I can safely say that if Rogue items were sent to Melee or Ranged, they'd be a lot worse off, and the game would be more boring
And I'm a firm believer that all Rouge items should be colored red
spring helm
i think it's funny that the rogue class get's a nuclear bomb that is Supernova
sneaks up on you
"Behold, the power of the sun"
stoic lark
you could make the exact same argument for mage or melee very easily
even ranger and summoner you can justify
brazen moth
boomerangs should be rogue imo
jaunty wraith
She looks the same to me
Side by Side comparason
spring helm
i like the class though
brazen moth
just to make melee players suffer
spring helm
focus on timing your attacks instead of spamming
fierce pagoda
Remember when rogue and melee used to share weapons
brazen moth
they’ve had it to good for to long
sinful adder
I can safely say that if Rogue items were sent to Melee or Ranged, they'd be a l...
ranger has like 200 guns at ML and DoG tier and it sucks. I would be much happier if half of those items were replaced with cool throwing knives and such rather than making up a new class with a stupid stealth mechanic that doesn't fit terraria
wheat walrus
why are we talking balancing n stuff in the lore discussion channel
jaunty wraith
^
spring helm
is that her canon skin colour now?
jaunty wraith
I guess
fierce pagoda
Is the iredescent excalibur an exo weapon now
spring helm
no more blacklamitas okay that sounded kinda racist
brazen moth
no more ~~blacklamitas~~ okay that sounded kinda racist
????????
jaunty wraith
One thing im wondering
fierce pagoda
Darklamitas
fierce pagoda
You could alhave said that
spring helm
Darklamitas, her alter ego
wheat walrus
ashlamitas since the way her skin is colored reminds me of ashes or smth idk!
spring helm
the ashes of the people she burnt alive lmao
fierce pagoda
Kratos style
brazen moth
the ashes of the people she burnt alive lmao
wheat walrus
the ashes of the people she burnt alive lmao
she covers herself in ashes the same way Fatalis from Monster Hunter melts the people it kills onto its skin
wtf
the connection is being connected
anyways
Does Xeroc eat rocks
jaunty wraith
If he eats rocks?
brazen moth
ze rock
brazen moth
Hes secretly Abigail from stardew Valley?
new lore!
spring helm
crazy how all the other miracle weapons have massive crafting trees because of the weapons it includes and then you have iridescent excalibur with just
true excalibur and orderbringer
cosmic zenith
ranger has like 200 guns at ML and DoG tier and it sucks. I would be much happie...
How does it not fit Terraria? You may not like stealth, but that doesn't mean it's a bad mechanic
fierce pagoda
Do you think the exo weapon recipes are going to be changed to be more consistent with each other?
jaunty wraith
I don't count it as an exo weapon despite using miracle matter
cosmic zenith
You can also make rangedcool without borrowing tons of weapons from rogue
jaunty wraith
It also uses ashes of ahnilation as well
fierce pagoda
Miracle matter is probably THE most powerful and potent crafting material
sinful adder
How does it not fit Terraria? You may not like stealth, but that doesn't mean it...
I was going to say something about this but I'm probably just wrong.
spring helm
that's true, it does use ashes of annihilation
maybe that's why (in my opinion) it's stronger than the exo blade
fierce pagoda
Is the iredescent excalibur canon now?
jaunty wraith
Miracle matter is probably THE most powerful and potent crafting material
I think shadowspec bars are more powerful... But they are not cannon
fierce pagoda
Yeah i wasnt counting those
tall delta
what is the lore of iridescent excalibur
wheat walrus
what is the lore of iridescent excalibur
the terrarian is universe level+
guys
he can kill goku!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
yees|!
jaunty wraith
Um... its pride month excalibur, thats the lore
wheat walrus
aaaaaaaaaaaa
fierce pagoda
Its a refrerence to the exo avalong mod right
Doesn that kinda mean its not canon
As referential content isnt usually canon
tall delta
well its ingame and doesnt says Its a dev item nor donor item
If its not ingame its not canon
but It is ingame
scenic olive
its blue eyes white dragon
spring helm
Is the iredescent excalibur canon now?
well the recipe changed to only canon materials so
fierce pagoda
Well listen now
scenic olive
jaunty wraith
Yeah checked the wiki, The trivia says it's a refrence to another mod
scenic olive
what happened to scal ashen skin
spring helm
<:calsad:1095752003268923465>
what's wrong with her?
fierce pagoda
Shadowspec will get moves to post yharim right
scenic olive
nothing
jaunty wraith
So unless specificly stated otherwise, I don't think it's cannon
fierce pagoda
And then post noxus and post Xeroc
But now iredescent excalibur doesnt use shadowspec
fierce pagoda
Does that mean it wont get pushed back alongside the other endgame weapons?
jaunty wraith
Thats a question I was thinking
Despite not being shadowspec, it's got the power of a shadowspec weapon
fierce pagoda
Yeah, maybe its recipe is gonna get changed to contain some post Yharim material or something
spring helm
you would not sexualize this.
don't tell me what to do
brazen moth
why doesn’t amidias hate cal as a neighbour?
wheat walrus
don't tell me what to do
nonononoononononoonononononoononon
spring helm
why doesn’t amidias hate cal as a neighbour?
because he's a nice guy like that
maybe he meditated while inside the clam and achieved nirvana
brazen moth
clamitas
jaunty wraith
Also Do you think the dryad would have a hatred for yharim?
fierce pagoda
I bet everyone hates Yharim
jaunty wraith
I would honestly love more NPC dialouge that relects on the vanillas NPC place in this world
Cause as of now... they kind of feel out of place
shrewd stream
hello there
solar wharf
Also Do you think the dryad would have a hatred for yharim?
i dont think thats like something rare to find
shrewd stream
is funny to me how most of the time, placing the souls of many people inside something will nearly always go wrong, but then we have the mech bosses which were soldier so loyal to yharim while also being so coordinated nothing wrong came out of it 
solar wharf
draedon technology!!!
shrewd stream
i forgot, what exactly are the wulfrum drones... things?
shrewd stream
uuuuuh, so you are telling me some guy made battle roombas... because he hated yharim?
solar wharf
ye they were like mascot of the war against yharim or something?
they seem to weak to actually actively help but i can see an army doing something as the average joe is like, platinum gear
shrewd stream
considering that since the mech bosses were designed to kill gods supposedly, (i might be wrong i forgot), and since the weakest god is in late pre hardmode, and one of the stronger ones is in early post moonlord, i think the gods in power would be similar to hardmode bosses... right?
in average atleast
solar wharf
probably but keep in mind we dont even have confirmation that providence is top 5
one of the strongest could mean top 15
dusty saffron
could i make a cosmolite slinky
solar wharf
due to how many gods existed
also mech bosses were designed to kill gods with 3 of them combined not just one
similar to exo mechs
solar wharf
probably
shrewd stream
ok
naming the player as the terrarian is like calling someone... the earthling.
i will always think that whenever someone mentions terrarian lol
solar wharf
naming the player as the terrarian is like calling someone... the earthling.
ye i assume that came from vanilla tho
shrewd stream
yeh
solar wharf
dont we also call the player that in vanilla
its just to avoid enforcing a canon on the player as the writers want the player to be headcanon for everyone
if they gave him a name then that limits it
but calling it the player makes more sense than the terrarain ig
floral crane
I just call them the Terrarian because it sounds cool
shrewd stream
isnt that the guide?
what about john terraria calamity mod
hmmm nah very overused
shrewd stream
benjamin
hushed geyser
No
shrewd stream
hushed geyser
Josh hutcherson
humble fog
Josh from drake and josh
Josh from letsgameitout
hushed geyser
Josh from letsgameitout
Hey guys it's josh
humble fog
Josh is basically draedon
humble fog
Yes
hushed geyser
Gonna fall asleep to the voice of josh from let's game it out
spring helm
i just realized
her legs are the same colour as her face now
which means her legs are out
how indecent
tepid swift
Out of anything you could’ve chose to pick apart you choose the fact that a character’s legs might be showing.
fierce blaze
Love it when the calamity lore just concludes with "and then we showed up"
spring helm
we're cool like that
wheat walrus
now draw her breathing brimstone flames from her mouth
like a dragon
yakuza
watever
sinful adder
was there a god and/or dragon of brimstone?
or something similar?
We know that at least two other elementals had dragons relating to them, that being Silva and the dragon of life, and the cloud elemental and the dragon of storms.
spring helm
personally I think that the dragon of flames used holy flames
since that's what providence used too
stuck bane
Dragon aerie update better have consumable auric souls
wheat walrus
Open mouth caloro is cursed
humble fog
500 calories max that thing is tiny
spring helm
Not that small
humble fog
1500
latent bolt
here have a caloro boss fight as apology
what is a caloro
mighty zenith
spring helm
Huh, now that I compare the two I drew Caloro a little elongated
real silo
The extra length makes it 27% funnier
scenic olive
Makes it funnier
plain sequoia
I was playing through calamity once again (doing a playthrough where I set all my weapons use time to 1, it was really easy and pretty fun.) and I noticed that xeroc now tells you he can't offer the proposal he mentioned. I assume that proposal will be offered once yharim is added, that or the proposal will be some kind of offer in getting to him. Who knows
mighty zenith
does the autism creature count
sinful adder
Probably
thick slate
all related
latent bolt
the autism creature is the fourth creature that comes from the common ancestor
sinful adder
there's also the undertale dog, which might be the ancestor that came before baba
buoyant inlet
sinful adder
Good information
wheat walrus
a wildering thing
why is it that in the middle of the choir of a nier automata ost I hear the word "skibidi"
😭
"ooo skibidi"
besides the music goes hard
anyways
lore of alamity
sinful adder
However I would consider Baba to be descended from Dog instead, as the dog is a game developer's avatar and baba is known for changing game rules. I also would consider the autism creature as being descended from the slug cat as it has similar behavior
scenic olive
Yippee lore
random mulch
monochrome creatura evolution lore
sinful adder
All but one of them is entirely white with black eyes
wheat walrus
been almost an hour of loading blender stufffffffffffffffffff
we should put those monochrome creatures into a blender
see what comes out of it
sinful adder
Ori has more shading and the knight would have been all white and silver with black eyes if it weren't basically a void zombie
keen hearth
Does anyone know what HM-03, HSx-00, HSy-01, and HF-04 actually mean for the mech trio?
mighty zenith
the H stands for hallowed
buoyant inlet
M, S and F stand for their soul types
crimson bone
the Schrodinger's Twins
keen hearth
Although I kinda agree that spazitism and retininazer are sorta dumb names compared to the other mechs
crimson bone
skeletron prime
buoyant inlet
Also I'm curious if previous revisions of mechs have any souls in them or are they just empty machines
keen hearth
skeletron prime
Ultrakill Skeletron
buoyant inlet
Also I'm curious if previous revisions of mechs have any souls in them or are th...
Imagine if they do and they just lie and rot away in some closed lab
mighty zenith
Also I'm curious if previous revisions of mechs have any souls in them or are th...
maybe draedon just changed their parts
buoyant inlet
Imagine if they do and they just lie and rot away in some closed lab
Forever
keen hearth
Why wouldn't the other mechs just get called Eater prime and Eyes prime
mighty zenith
Imagine if they do and they just lie and rot away in some closed lab
since 1987
keen hearth
Why wouldn't the other mechs just get called Eater prime and Eyes prime
Draedon would enrage Ares immediately for that naming
buoyant inlet
Omw to name Ares Skeletron ultra prime
mighty zenith
skeletron prime prime
keen hearth
Primed skeletron prime
fierce pagoda
does dreadon make the Exo mechs hold back when fighting at the same time? there was something about releasing the full might of his mechs when only 1 is alive
crimson bone
He tried to hold back but then you kicked every mech's ass
keen hearth
Although, Draedon does call his exo mechs by their non "formal" names
crimson bone
So that explains the last mech being more aggresive
keen hearth
Yet the mech trio naming annoys him
keen hearth
does dreadon make the Exo mechs hold back when fighting at the same time? there ...
Well, in terms of gameplay balance yeah, lore-wise idk
graceful otter
the exos are able to perform well indivdidually and together
they are far better together tho
but some of them have moves they can only unleash when they are alone (berserk attacks)
thats how i see it
keen hearth
But I assume it's more like when they go easy on you it just means they're conserving energy
Which is all that exotic melting shit happening in the inside of them powering the mechs up
mighty zenith
my headcanon is that they hold back when together in order to not damage each other
lapis steppe
I'm also thinking it's to avoid friendly fire, like I don't think Ares ever does it's massive death laser when any if the other mechs are present
keen hearth
my headcanon is that they hold back when together in order to not damage each ot...
The twins literally facing eachother
mighty zenith
cause blender could accidentally decimate thanatos
lapis steppe
Agreed
mighty zenith
The twins literally facing eachother
they move accordingly
keen hearth
I'm also thinking it's to avoid friendly fire, like I don't think Ares ever does...
He does nuke tho, doesn't he?
lapis steppe
He does nuke tho, doesn't he?
True, but for a nuke it more so looks like a missile, that should be fine not to hit the others I think
keen hearth
It basically a homing wave pounder
lapis steppe
Yeah
mighty zenith
the thing about the gauss nuke is that either you stay close to it and fucking die (which means the mechs win even if suffered heavy damage)
or you dodge it, meaning the exos dodge it too thanks to their tracking
keen hearth
That doesn't seem safe to be used near anything in a 100 tile space
mighty zenith
its easier for someone the size of the terrarian to dodge blender beam than a gigantic worm
lapis steppe
^
mighty zenith
same with ohio and t hanos beams
keen hearth
the thing about the gauss nuke is that either you stay close to it and fucking d...
Honestly the mechs using a special move costing their health would be interesting
lapis steppe
Honestly given their resilience I doubt a few missiles in the face will do much to the exo mechs, especially thanatos
keen hearth
I mean, CV amd Yharon already do
mighty zenith
Honestly given their resilience I doubt a few missiles in the face will do much ...
well, the player is able to deal sustained damage to them
so they can probably do the same to each other
delicate jacinth
Honestly the mechs using a special move costing their health would be interestin...
I mean it would be cool
But considering they are draedons magnum opus
Idk if he would make them kill themselves
lapis steppe
so they can probably do the same to each other
Agreed, i just think the missile is one that wouldn't do much, therefore dreadon may see it as acceptable friendly fire if it even happens, unlike attacks like blender lazer for exemple
keen hearth
But considering they are draedons magnum opus
Well so much for a magnus opus having two of them sharing HP and say they have unstable cores
delicate jacinth
I feel its more of a gameplay thing but sure
mighty zenith
i think the most dangerous attack for the others would be Ares' laser arm
keen hearth
Dradeon also makes thanatos sound really threatening by "dying before even finding out it's weakness" when it gets obliterated in almost any way
mighty zenith
but then again they could reposition in order to stay away from it given how predictable it is
delicate jacinth
Dradeon also makes thanatos sound really threatening by "dying before even findi...
Again, more of a gameplay thing
mighty zenith
tbh thanatos could be perfect if the vents were designed better
rather than having a million weak spots on its body
hushed geyser
tbh thanatos could be perfect if the vents were designed better
The vents were the giant laser
lapis steppe
I always took Artemis and Apollo as the bigger threats, they land the most consistent shots that did me in before I beat them
delicate jacinth
Anyway if the mechs get destroyed
keen hearth
tbh thanatos could be perfect if the vents were designed better
His tail, frfr
delicate jacinth
Draedon will just improve
After all
"To experiment is to fail. To fail is to learn. To learn is to advance."
hushed geyser
His tail, frfr
Give him 2 lasers
keen hearth
I still don't get worms having such high def in their tails
lapis steppe
Truth
mighty zenith
yeah the entire fight is basically a test run for exos
delicate jacinth
"To experiment is to fail. To fail is to learn. To learn is to advance."
Such a fire quote btw
I love it
keen hearth
I still don't get worms having such high def in their tails
It's not even that easy to attack that segment in specific
keen hearth
dont they have low defense on tails
No, only some of the bosses do
Like Weaver and DoG
lapis steppe
Wasn't it stormweaver?
keen hearth
Most have high defense
lapis steppe
Oh I'm slow lol
keen hearth
Like Astrum Deus, EoW
I could understand EoW
He's kinda slow
But Astrum Deus?
And Destroyer too I think
lapis steppe
If their heads have lower def I could see it, one sec
keen hearth
If their heads have lower def I could see it, one sec
I think Astrum Deus actually has high def in his tail AND head
keen hearth
I think Astrum Deus actually has high def in his tail AND head
His tail having the most
keen hearth
Body 20 head 35 tail 50
hushed geyser
Make it hardest to beat
keen hearth
Not even counting DR
keen hearth
Make it hardest to beat
Literally giving the tail 0 def would not make the boss easier by much
If you're going after that might aswell give you some reward
keen hearth
Even chasing DoG's tail isn't that worth
His head is more dangerous but easier to keep up with
hushed geyser
That's why you give it a laser
keen hearth
Like Weaver and DoG
Oh yeah, and storm weaver's tail is only lower defense in phase 1
lapis steppe
I think Astrum Deus actually has high def in his tail AND head
Deus is on crack but all others I've checked on the wiki have the least defense on the head, like destroyer's head apparently has 0 even on calamity difficulties?
keen hearth
Oh yeah, and storm weaver's tail is only lower defense in phase 1
When the armor breaks he gets 30 defense on it
20 body 10 head
keen hearth
Deus is on crack but all others I've checked on the wiki have the least defense ...
Yeah but hitting destroyers head is probably harder to hit cuz he's long asf so going for the body is probably generally more worth doing so
Unlike shorter worms like Storm weaver
lapis steppe
Yeah, also saw for the first time DoG actually has a whopping 92.5% DR on his body and 70 Def. His head and tail have no dr and 50 def in comparison, damn
lapis steppe
Bro really doesn't care about taking hits from gods now, draedon worked a little too well
keen hearth
Bro really doesn't care about taking hits from gods now, draedon worked a little...
Whar?
lapis steppe
Yeah, yet wave pounder still obliterates even if only hitting its body
Is that a rogue weapon? I only did rogue against astrageldon
keen hearth
It also obliterates events
lapis steppe
Sweet
keen hearth
Just saying that armor is insane
Ig draedon did forge his armor or smth
For a second I thought you were saying Draedon made DoG
lapis steppe
Lol no
hushed geyser
Draedon created the universe theory
lapis steppe
He made the world soul and shattered it himself, then came to existence way later because he could
keen hearth
Ig draedon did forge his armor or smth
Draedon was Dog's goblin tinkerer
hushed geyser
Draedon is radagon theory
lapis steppe
Draedon was Dog's goblin tinkerer
I can take comfort knowing DoG got scammed into oblivion by draedon in that case (draedon now has a nigh limitless reserve of cosmilite)
hushed geyser
Draedon Nigerian prince emailed dog
lapis steppe
hushed geyser
"I am king draedon of a distant land, my kingdom requires the ore from yours, just a small sum, please allow access to my mining ships, my poor country needs it"
keen hearth
He's from a very vast taiga
hushed geyser
He requires funding
"Hello terrarian, I would like for you to partake in a social experiment where my machines beat you to death"
pliant ruin
hi lore chat
keen hearth
Lorr
hushed geyser
hi lore chat
Hi cheese
leaden bridge
mmmm lore
hushed geyser
Eat lore
summer spruce
hi lore chat
🧀
scenic olive
violet spoke
He's from a very vast taiga
mf spawned in taiga
violet spoke
"I don't know how i got here, but all that i know is i must RESEARCH."
keen hearth
mf spawned in taiga
I'd immediately respawn to get a better seed
solar wharf
hello my fellow lorians
hoary berry
hello hello
shut tide
welcome to lore
fierce pagoda
Are the enemies in the abyss, the strongest non-boss animals in calamity, gameplay and lorewise?
buoyant inlet
If you count abyss minibosses then probably
tho they're specialized for their environment and most likely will die outside of it
graceful otter
Are the enemies in the abyss, the strongest non-boss animals in calamity, gamepl...
t3 acid rain minibosses are of the same strength
id also assume distortion will have minibosses too, so theyd be even stronger than that
buoyant inlet
Idk if its fair to call distortion creatures "animals"
floral nymph
Idk if its fair to call distortion creatures "animals"
they wouldn't fit the definition of an animal
fierce pagoda
well the monsters in the tier 3 acid rain a health bar minibosses
so i dont count those as normal enemies
floral nymph
then yes.
fierce pagoda
finally remembered what I've been meaning to ask
what are the ancient relics?
outdated concept or is there something more to it?
floral nymph
i just know that they exist
graceful otter
what are the ancient relics?
u mean like
bloom stone, aero stone
chaos stone
and whatnot
fierce pagoda
yes
graceful otter
yea then i think its just a thing that were made and never expanded on
pliant ruin
Are the enemies in the abyss, the strongest non-boss animals in calamity, gamepl...
For the most part
Tho tbf that's
kind of just bc most of the post ml enemies r either abyss guys or
profaned guys
so
I think as a whole the only other critters that get to the same level of strenght as abyss creatures are like
some sulphuric sea creatures, dragonfollies, uhhh
yeah i got nothin
fierce pagoda
yeah if were talking strongest wild animal in general then dragonfolly and Old duke take its
unless we count primordial wyrm as a wild animal
floral nymph
old duke is a boss
pliant ruin
not even cuz its a boss
but more so cuz its a single individual
rather than a entire species
dragonfolly counts tho
fierce pagoda
yeah i know i said in general, as in every animal counts.
for regular enemies we know its abyss enemies, probably Reaper shark since its bestiary entry states its the apex predator
pliant ruin
i mean
if we're counting individuals rather than species
then yeah
its primordial wyrm
fierce pagoda
were all dragons sapient, or were some wild?
pliant ruin
all were sapient as far as we know
and given that i personally think they underwent a ritual similarly to what gods did to get auric souls in the first place they'd need to be sapient
fierce pagoda
ok, then as for most powerful wild species, who would it be?
floral nymph
do evil biomes enemies count as animals? cuz all animals have 1 common ancestor and they just are there to help spread the infection or smt not rly evolve
pliant ruin
ok, then as for most powerful wild species, who would it be?
reaper sharks, dragonfollies, maulers, eidolon wyrms, colossal squids
those are the ones i can think of
there's some other notably powerful animals like aquatic + desert scourges and queen bees but they fall behind due to not being post ml
great sand sharks too
pliant ruin
do evil biomes enemies count as animals? cuz all animals have 1 common ancestor ...
ehh i don't think so
from a biological standpoint i don't think they're animals, or even
any natural classification
floral nymph
ehh i don't think so
yeah thats what i thought
pliant ruin
they're creatures born from malicious divine essence
floral nymph
i dont think they are alive
pliant ruin
I don't think they're fully alive, they're probably more like organic robots in that they just follow a given task
trim edge
that's probably the case for corruption since hive mind spawns them, but i don't see why the crimson spiders wouldn't just be spiders
floral nymph
that's probably the case for corruption since hive mind spawns them, but i don't...
corrupted spiders
pliant ruin
spiders only have at best one of those
floral nymph
i think corruption enemies are just corpses being controlled by the corruption to spread the infection
and the same with crimson
trim edge
why does hardmode crimson spawn an enemy that pisses on you
floral nymph
why does hardmode crimson spawn an enemy that pisses on you
gains ichor
spring helm
why does hardmode crimson spawn an enemy that pisses on you
the crimson absorbed some of the essence the WoF released
+100xp
Level up!
You've gained a new ability: piss
untold bluff
the crimson absorbed some of the essence the WoF released
I have been summoned
spring helm
Why did you slurp up the WoF juice
untold bluff
Meat smoothie
wheat walrus
Har har har har har
floral nymph
terrarian was born to a world full of pain cuz of u
daring crater
I do wonder what draedon’s relationship is with the martians. Has he looted their tech before? I can’t imagine he was unaware of them, he clearly had his eyes on space
thorn drift
I do wonder what draedon’s relationship is with the martians. Has he looted thei...
He probably studied them quite extensively. It wasn't ever mentioned ingame because it has no relevance, but he most likely did know of them
thorn drift
why does hardmode crimson spawn an enemy that pisses on you
its not piss
vivid elk
what’s yharims favorite color
random mulch
every time he sees a god associated with a specific color he starts disliking it
thorn drift
A god happens to be purple? Yharim absolutely despises everything purple till another god comes around with a different color, then he hates that
random mulch
he used to be green until he encountered silva 
thorn drift
Yharim was conflicted that day. On one hand, green was the color of a god, on the other, he really wanted that zaza
daring crater
If yharim had instead chosen to absorb yharon’s soul, would the gods then have the ability to be reborn, since a god now held dominion over that power? That would explain why they tried to thrust that duty upon him so forcefully
thorn drift
If yharim had instead chosen to absorb yharon’s soul, would the gods then have t...
probably
fierce pagoda
if you take auric panels and combine them with an Exo prism you get Exo-Auric panels
Yharims armor is presumably made of the same thing, well not exactly from panels but Exo-Auric something
eager bluff
its auric with exo enhancements
potent moat
for all my oneshot fans outhere. Is draedon tamed or was he built for wonder and science?
buoyant inlet
I think he kinda is tamed but he doesn't care about it
spring helm
Is draedon what
buoyant inlet
He clearly has a complete independent personality
potent moat
in hir conversations he said he had somewhat of a relationship with yharim
but i dont think he tamed him
buoyant inlet
I think draedon kind of tamed himself
potent moat
Is draedon what
spring helm
daring crater
The fact that Draedon woke up next to a corpse gives me a hunch he’s got part of his inventor’s digitally translated mind in there. though clearly his episodic memory didn’t make the jump, he never described having to learn to walk or talk, which he’s definitely not too prideful to divulge if it happened that way
potent moat
i also made thay theory from reading them
daring crater
“Scientist seeks immortality by becoming machine” is a common trope
potent moat
but still at this point would not have draedon suspected of it
daring crater
Eh, maybe he’s not even entirely sure
potent moat
it still interesting to try and understand his origins
neat tinsel
it still interesting to try and understand his origins
Is his origin a reference to Lego ninjago
pliant ruin
The fact that Draedon woke up next to a corpse gives me a hunch he’s got part of...
im a firm believer that draedon is literally his creator and he just has lost any memories or traces of emotions he'd once had
heavy agate
real talk do you guys pronounce the ar in yharim as you do like “hair” or as you do with a deer sound like “hard”
heavy agate
see my friend pronounced that too and now i think i’ve been pronouncing it wrong for 4 years 😭
potent moat
yar har har har
Calamity lore piratas and New previous best in ultrakill my fav kinda day
pliant ruin
good job ive only ever gotten to like wave 20
potent moat
good job ive only ever gotten to like wave 20
dusty saffron
in hir conversations he said he had somewhat of a relationship with yharim
hes prob just a robot who allied with yharim because it would fit his needs (unlimited stuff)
daring crater
Yeah it was 100% an overlap in what would serve their self interests
Really the only time I’ve seen Draedon show any signs of emotion have been when he was shocked by the second exo mech being killed, and annoyance at you giving his stuff stupid names
spring helm
he also expressed confusion when recalling yharim destroying the jungle lab
fierce pagoda
what weapon did Brealor use?
fierce pagoda
the grax
pliant ruin
hey now that i think about it
isnt brimmy's current theme kind of oddly unfitting for her
her theme was based of her old lore which was meant to be like really sad and tragic
now she's just
kill
fierce pagoda
I didn't even know she had a theme with lyrics
pliant ruin
does it have lyrics??/
fierce pagoda
it doesnt?
fierce pagoda
if it doesnt have lyrics how is it unfitting, i thought you meant that the lyrics contradict somethin
pliant ruin
fierce pagoda
oh like the vibe
solar wharf
KILL
fierce pagoda
my apolocheese
solar wharf
DAMN!!!
fierce pagoda
for misunderstanding
pliant ruin
my apolocheese
i accept ur apolocheese....
pliant ruin
but yeah isnt it kidn of weird
i wouldnt be entirely surprised if she got a new, more high octane theme
tho tbf idk how her fight goe srn
brazen moth
but then as soon as i get to DoG
brazen moth
even some of the post-ml are easy
true, i accidentally summoned two old duke and beat both of them with full health
fierce pagoda
What the hell
brazen moth
i had a mod that gave me a second fishing line
fierce pagoda
thats impressive for me at least, Old duke was one i struggled a lot with on my rogue run
fierce pagoda
On summoner i cake-walked him
brazen moth
it took 12 tries to beat DoG
fierce pagoda
how is an all class playthrough even like, dont you have to put on a class specific armor set anyways?
brazen moth
how is an all class playthrough even like, dont you have to put on a class speci...
i have a mod that adds a fourth fifth and sixth armour preset thing
so i use that to have all classes
brazen moth
Oh so you change when you feel like it
basically
fierce pagoda
I'm gonna pretend that you're the only one to have ever done this
very creative of you
brazen moth
:3
fierce pagoda
It's all about consistency and hours put into the game
i think, that's what i tell people all the time anyways
brazen moth
i’m very good at base terraria so mods i’m still decent at
i always beat daytime empress in just 3-4 attempts during summoner runs
not to brag
fierce pagoda
"Now, that hope is long withered. I am but a husk of the hero I once was, and this is the ultimate proof.
Yharon may yet return, as he does, but he… he has bade me farewell." you see that last part
what did Yharim mean by that
even if Yharon returns, he has bade him farewell
why
like Yharon know's that by the time he rebirths, that Yharim will be dead?
so he said his goodbyes now
brazen moth
probably
viscid lynx
Either that or Yharons rebirth has some sort of “this life is over, my next carries no chains from the previous lives.”
Also is the Slime God a god in the same sense as Silva, Providence, Xeroc, etc? As in, it was a person that consumed a dragon soul?
viscid lynx
He likely has vitality boosters but yeah… definitely not with us… existing.
brazen moth
Also is the Slime God a god in the same sense as Silva, Providence, Xeroc, etc? ...
yes, they absorbed the auric soul of gluttony
viscid lynx
Ah, thanks!
icy carbon
is dreadon a complete robot or a cyborg?
spring helm
complete robot
viscid lynx
I think he’s a synth, like, was once organic but became a completely synthetic being.
spring helm
I think he’s a synth, like, was once organic but became a completely synthetic b...
possibly, we know his creator was organic
viscid lynx
I still need to do a new playthrough so I can talk to him…
spring helm
do you not have a codebreaker in an old world?
viscid lynx
Yeah but a new update came out so new legendary infernum playthrough.
sinful adder
like Yharon know's that by the time he rebirths, that Yharim will be dead?
Yeah. Yharim is like 130 years old, only alive because of attunement magic with yharon.
sinful adder
I think he’s a synth, like, was once organic but became a completely synthetic b...
no, he was always a machine.
viscid lynx
Ah, fair enough!
fair token
He likely has vitality boosters but yeah… definitely not with us… existing.
Draedon confirms Yharim would just keel over soon even if we dont do anything
fierce pagoda
Does that mean the Yharim we fight isnt going to be in his prime?
fair token
no hes still the strongest hes ever been
paper zenith
theres anothers desert scourges or he was the only one of his kind?
paper zenith
theres anothers desert scourges or he was the only one of his kind?
like in that form
spring helm
Does that mean the Yharim we fight isnt going to be in his prime?
he's at his strongest right now (especially with the exo tech upgrade to his armour) but it won't last much longer
sinful adder
He's full of magic steroids
Like you know those life fruit things we get? In lore they do important things
scenic olive
what if you eat more than two
fierce pagoda
He hoarded all the Yharim stimulants for himself
sinful adder
what if you eat more than two
You explode
sinful adder
The elderberry, for example, makes you age to your prime condition, and you age backwards if you were already old, but eating two of them makes you shrivel up and die or something
surreal gulch
what if you eat more than two
swift ferry
what if i gave it to a baby
like using bone meal on a sapling in Minecraft
scenic olive
sinful adder
Yeah, eating an elderberry usually cuts your lifespan way shorter
Unless you're already very old
fierce pagoda
The voices are canon confirmed
sinful adder
A lore writer said this here a while back
swift ferry
gotta optimize your elderberry usage. wait 'til your terrarian is using a walker
scenic olive
Huh
fierce pagoda
How do we craft elder erry
surreal gulch
you just eat the Elderberry for the second time in your character models facial hair is replaced with a beard
scenic olive
what happens if you feed elder berry to an undead then
surreal gulch
what happens if you feed elder berry to an undead then
skeleton maybe if it's a zombie
fierce pagoda
They are no longer alive technically
surreal gulch
or maybe it does to reverse
scenic olive
i meant like
surreal gulch
I mean if they're digestive systems are working maybe
scenic olive
Revived by Necromancy undead
What if you blend all the fruit and turn it into a smoothie
solar wharf
even the terrarain has mortal limitations...
forest knot
what happens if you feed elder berry to an undead then
They implode into a black hole 🕳️
sinful adder
I want to tame a whole flock of dragonfollies with dragonfruit to make them buff as hell
spring helm
die from old age
royal crater
Is Silva still alive?
spring helm
kind of
she got defeated by yharim but she can't die so they dumped her into the abyss
she doesn't have a body right now so her essence is spread thoughout the ocean
(please note that this is not the first time she's been banished down there)
royal crater
Why she won't create a body then? Is she afraid of Godseeker?
crimson finch
I missed believing Storm Weaver was Devourer’s younger sibling, now turns out Devourer is 16 and Storm weaver is a middle aged smoker with a dead end job and a loveless marriage with ungrateful children
dull grove
Lore discussion after discussing the same topic 3 million times (they still cooking)
crimson finch
What topics (I’m genuinely confused)
dull grove
What topics <:clueless:1064298508653432933> (I’m genuinely confused)
Everything
crimson finch
Awesome sauce
dull grove
Its like generations passing down awesome sauce
dull grove
Awesome sauce
Peak
crimson finch
Truly
dull grove
Magnificent
spring helm
Why she won't create a body then? Is she afraid of Godseeker?
There's not a lot of information on this.
Perhaps her body got destroyed in the battle and they banished just her essence. In that case it would likely take a long time to just reform her consciousness.
It hasn't been that long since Yharim's crusade happened, Calamitas is in her late 20s and she joined as a child
pliant ruin
Lore discussion after discussing the same topic 3 million times (they still cook...
yopu
you
whos the character in ur. pFP I Think they look cool where atre they from
stuck bane
If you want we’re to oversimplify calamity lore and explain it to someone who has never even heard of calamity, how would you explain it?
Guy becomes atheist, what happens next will shock you
pliant ruin
If you want we’re to oversimplify calamity lore and explain it to someone who ha...
atheist owns braindead believers using the powers of the reddit army
stuck bane
The heck is the Reddit part
An atheist, a robot who loves ruining the environment, a witch who blew up her family, and a space worm all try to destroy gods
pliant ruin
The heck is the Reddit part
it's meant to refer to yharim's army
stuck bane
Oh
pliant ruin
the reddit part is just added to it to fit with the rest of the oversimplification
spring helm
An atheist got thrown in lava. You won’t believe what happens next!
pliant ruin
An atheist, a robot who loves ruining the environment, a witch who blew up her f...
this still sounds interesting
stuck bane
An atheist got thrown in lava. You won’t *believe* what happens next!
Isn’t that old lore?
pliant ruin
not oversimplified enough!
spring helm
My dragon soulmate can’t be this cute!
Is it wrong to leave the souls of my dead enemies in the dungeon?
stuck bane
not oversimplified enough!
A guy. Killed people. The end
stuck bane
Things happen, and then you come in and frick it up more
spring helm
That Time I Blew Up My Family And A Tyrant Made Me Their Ace
pliant ruin
That Time I Blew Up My Family And A Tyrant Made Me Their Ace
no calamitas don't turn into a shitty anime with a overcomplicated long name no calamitas noooooooooooo
spring helm
I Unlocked Amazing Brimstone Power And Blew Up The Neighbourhood, Now This 🧀 Keeps Calling Me Girlboss???
pliant ruin
Things happen, and then you come in and frick it up more
tbh at base value
not accounting for any lore the player could make
the terrarian is probably a net positive
pliant ruin
I Unlocked Amazing Brimstone Power And Blew Up The Neighbourhood, Now This 🧀 Ke...
REAL
stuck bane
Godammit calamitas I told you stop lighting things on fire
spring helm
I Followed The Voice In My Head And Killed My Way Into Power, Now This Traumatized Woman Is Trying To Kill Me Too!
stuck bane
A rock and fire monster attacked my city and I helped it
stuck bane
Brimstone elemental: I will wreak havoc on your city! Calamitas: EXPLOSION. Brimstone elemental: wow ok I guess you did it for me thanks I guess.
Brimmy woke up from her nappy and now she mad
Wtf did nappy autocorrect to Bally
pliant ruin
the terrarian is probably a net positive
Objectively good things the Terrarian would do in a all bosses run:
-Kill Yharim
-Kill Providence
-Kill DoG
-Kill Signus
-Freeing Astrum Deus
-Getting permanently rid of Fovos
-Killing the Plaguebringer Goliath
-Destroying the Mech Bosses
-Killing Ravager (Or more like putting it out of it's misery)
-Kill Storm Weaver (Debatable if it really was causing any trouble but it is kind of not native to terraria and eating the native fauna so?)
stuck bane
Who is fovos
pliant ruin
ml
pliant ruin
wouldn't say she got saved
analog spear
Hello everyone
pliant ruin
there wasn't really any saving to be done honestly
pliant ruin
Freeing Permafrost too yeah
though that one is less of a ''thing that will benefit basically everyone" and more of a "the terrarian just saved a random guy which i mean it's still a good thing but it's not as influential as the rest"
stuck bane
You would cleanse a small amount of the evil biome by defeating BoC or EoW and the perforators or hive mind
Wait why is providence bad I forgot
pliant ruin
she's like top 3 most evil characters in the mod
her entire deal is that she's nihilistic as hell and wants to commit like. omnicide
like she wants to kill everyone
stuck bane
Oh
analog spear
Are you talking about SCal?
stuck bane
I feel like she could’ve done that already
low bison
If there is no thing everything is pure
pliant ruin
Are you talking about SCal?
no
stuck bane
Are you talking about SCal?
Providence
analog spear
Hmmmm
pliant ruin
Providence is arguably the biggest threat to the world as a whole currently too
analog spear
I wouldn’t necessarily say she’s “evil”
stuck bane
How has she not already killed everyone
analog spear
She’s misguided
pliant ruin
How has she not already killed everyone
She's not strong enough to kill everyone in the entire world
she's strong but not that strong
not even xeroc could do that as far as we know
stuck bane
Also why, is there a reason she wants to kill everyone or just pure hate
pliant ruin
she wants to kill everyone
pliant ruin
Also why, is there a reason she wants to kill everyone or just pure hate
nihilism
analog spear
Yeah I know, but it’s not like she’s evil on purpose
pliant ruin
absolute, complete nihilism
pliant ruin
Yeah I know, but it’s not like she’s evil on purpose
she's evil on purpose
she wants to kill everyone
analog spear
How so?
pliant ruin
she wants to kill everyone
do i really have to emphatize any further how she wants to kill everyone
analog spear
I’m not fully caught up with the lore, I’m only getting knowledge through boss entries and lore entries
Well SCal has killed a lot of people, but that doesn’t mean she’s evil
pliant ruin
yes
because scal regrets her actions, is incredibly guilty because of it, and was manipulated into doing it
also she lives in a cave
stuck bane
Scal is what I would call misguided