natural as in no domains, no magic, no science, no godly esscenes
#lore-discussion
pliant ruin
It seems like they are, i can't think of many that are beyond them besides like, the draconic offshoots
solar wharf
dont draconic offshoots use magic still tho?
pliant ruin
I mean ig? But i'd count them as natural since they're kind of just animals
solar wharf
im talking about something that if existed in our world
would make sense
queen bees obviously doesnt
but they dont have magic or anything like that
so all we have to do
is just ignore the fact that insects cant get this big
cuz oxygn and exoskeleton
pliant ruin
I mean ig but even without magic like
solar wharf
and she'd be pretty much fine
pliant ruin
i think a eidolon wyrm or a dragonfolly would probably be above a queen bee
solar wharf
but both of these use magic
pliant ruin
do dragonfollies use magic? ik wyrms do
pliant ruin
Don't they just shoot their feathers at you?
I mean i wouldn't know i've never fought one
solar wharf
dragonfolly is able to create 2 pillars around you similar to yharon
while also making spear shaped electricified projectiles
that seek you
pliant ruin
Oh those are their feathers aren't they
pliant ruin
I mean that's kind of gameplay mechanic moment cuz like queen bee can kind of like
spawn a endless supply of children to suicide bomb you
solar wharf
ye but that makes more sense than an unanimate object
pliant ruin
evne if we count creatures that are like
solar wharf
chasing you
solar wharf
theres also the fact that it uses electricity which ig could be a case similar to eels but i doubt it
pliant ruin
in general i think since its like, a fantasy setting where almost everyone has access to magic its not rly worth separating creatures that use magic BUT if we're hypothetically talking only about physically strongest creatures, Queen Bees seem to be near the top
I think there's nothing else in the jugnle atleast except follies that's above them
Plantera isn't a natural organism, Golem is uh, a GOlem
PBG is a cyborg
solar wharf
mimics are
mimics.
i mean you can ig make an argument for them?
a species that evolved to be a chest...
pliant ruin
Mimics in DND are like
weird mollusks that can shapeshift
But in terraria
it seems like
they're literally chests
solar wharf
evolution is so fucking fast in calamity so
pliant ruin
given we never have example of any non-chest mimics they're either specifically evolved to eat humans and to pretend to be chests or they're just not a natural organism
solar wharf
true
pliant ruin
I'm leaning on the latter
graceful otter
i think they just use chests as a shell
considering keys of light and night exist
pliant ruin
Maybe something to do with godly essence or magic or something in the area eventually giving life to a object
graceful otter
anyways
for dragonfolly
They hunt prey using the immense static electricity generated by the flapping of their wings against their feathery bodies, manifesting as deadly bolts of red lightning.
extract from dragonfolly bestiary entry
pliant ruin
considering keys of light and night exist
Actually now that you say that
I think they're just kind of straight up non natural because you can literally create them
pliant ruin
So i'm gonna stick with the idea of
pliant ruin
Godly Essence giving life to an object or something of similar connotation
This makes me think
graceful otter
Godly Essence giving life to an object or something of similar connotation
the existence of non biome chest mimics prove that they dont need godly essence to become alive
pliant ruin
What would be the top/apex of ecosystems in each of the world's main biomes, not accounting for those that don't really follow the natural order like evil biomes and the dungeon
solar wharf
i wonder what they exaclty need then
graceful otter
they just need a soul, something we already know powers stuff
solar wharf
What would be the top/apex of ecosystems in each of the world's main biomes, not...
dragonfollies in the jungle
reaper sharks in the abyss
idk too much about sulphuric sea
fishrons
pliant ruin
Maulers and Scourges probably
solar wharf
in the ocean
pliant ruin
Scourges filling the larger filter feeder niche and Maulers being the actual predators
graceful otter
old duke is specifically a very old guy
solar wharf
fishrons are the apex predators
yes
ik
but its still a fishron
ig it isnt native then?
well it technically is
as it lived there i assume
before it got poisoned
graceful otter
arent maulers t3 acid rain miniboss? that puts them on par with like
solar wharf
which might imply the existence of other poisoned dukes
pliant ruin
are there more out there
graceful otter
post golem bosses
graceful otter
post polter
solar wharf
o
pliant ruin
OD is a boss you can summon during it
Desert is kind of a tricky one
cuz
theoretically
it'd be desert scourge
but also
pliant ruin
i don't think there's any indication that there's a stable population of DS
it might legit just be the three guys we fight
solar wharf
ye but wouldnt it be fair to assume
graceful otter
because then its just "who is the strongest boss in the biome"
pliant ruin
I mean other fishrons def exist but idk if in the sulphuric waters specifically
graceful otter
i mean
pliant ruin
its debatable but i like to imagine old duke is the only one that thrived there cuz of it being naturally more powerful due to it being the first while the others couldn't handle the enviroment and moved to clean waters
graceful otter
considering we dont see any fishrons during acid rain
i dont think they exist there
solar wharf
i dont think thats a valid point as we dont see a lot of things in a lot of biomes but they do exist
graceful otter
heres what i think happened
solar wharf
like desert nuisances
graceful otter
old duke was strong enough to endure the poisoning of sulph sea, but its children couldnt
so they fleed
but od stayed
graceful otter
wdym look at him
solar wharf
wouldnt it make sense for him to leave?
graceful otter
fuck u mean hes not okay
solar wharf
i dont think the posion was doing him good tho
graceful otter
yea but he could endure it
pliant ruin
i mean
graceful otter
and he had stable food
pliant ruin
no competition
pliant ruin
if hes the only fishron here he dosen't have to worry abt other fishrons hunting his food
solar wharf
thats true actually
graceful otter
he was the first fishron there werent other fishrons to be worried about
except for his children
which as i said, probably left
since theyd fucking die
chrome kindle
if hes the only fishron here he dosen't have to worry abt other fishrons hunting...
CHEESEEEEE
pliant ruin
hi thats me
forest knot
Uuhhhh
If I had the spare time, I would make a mod that adds the mechanical bosses as plague variants
And skeletron prime would be the “Lich”
So absolutely
Preferably in combination with “fly of beelzebub”
That music kinda gives me the vibes as if queen bee was given new but grotesque life as Plaguebringer Goliath
The opening sounds sorta majestic but when it kicks in, it sounds nasty, but mechanical
pliant ruin
If I had the spare time, I would make a mod that adds the mechanical bosses as p...
Tbh i don't think it'd be as cool if it was just robots
forest knot
Oh
Dang
I love mechanical stuff tho, the plague would be just another “biohazard trope” if it wasn’t nano machines
To me anyway.
It’s totally a cool concept overall
tropic oak
hello lorians
pliant ruin
I love mechanical stuff tho, the plague would be just another “biohazard trope” ...
i like robots too but the fact the plague is not just robots, not just a virus, not just a zombie infection but all of them while ALSO being centered around giant fucking bugs is like
DAMN!!!!!!!!!!!!
forest knot
You could see PBG’s half liquified flesh underneath its exoskeleton in the old sprites
pliant ruin
you kinda stillc an
forest knot
Yeah but a lot more is what I meant to say
graceful otter
i like robots too but the fact the plague is not *just* robots, not *just* a vir...
draedon also mentions how its evolving without his influence
pliant ruin
I love the smooth dark steel texture PBG's armor has
pliant ruin
draedon also mentions how its evolving without his influence
THAT TOO
the plague is so fkin cool yall
graceful otter
which literally means its getting the ability to turn more things into plague things
rather than being a stagnant "oh it can alr plague everything fuck u"
forest knot
It definitely has the ability to turn me into a fan
jaunty wraith
I know it's not cannon, but I love the idea of the plagued jungle mini biome
steep siren
Tbh id love to see how the plague would interact with the astral infection
Or the corruption/crimson
graceful otter
plague would get infected by astral
cold owl
plague would get infected by astral
Astral and plague collab
steep siren
Astral plague collab would go crazy
jaunty wraith
I think the power goes corruption/Crimson < Plague < Astral infection
steep siren
Cannot imagine what an astral plague would cause to the world tbh
Def wouldnt be good tho
jaunty wraith
Draedon gets a tiny bit curious and combines the astral infection and plague, creating a toxic poisonous substance that is far more evil and damaging than any evil
steep siren
TWITTER
Worse. X
Draedon fucking around and getting a lil bit silly with the astral plague and accidentally dipping thanatos in it
We got aureus 2.0 now
jaunty wraith
actually I'm gonna reread draedons exclamation on the exo prisms RQ
Okay so the line "The Ilmeran crystals that you know as "Sea Prisms" are self-illuminating and provide a weak electric charge indefinitely, even when tapped by circuitry. Etching the crystals with conduction pathways at the molecular level and providing an initial energy impulse, not unlike igniting a newborn star, transforms them into a facsimile of the Exo Prisms you are familiar with." Caught my attention. Mainly the "not unlike igniting a newborn star" Bit
We know that they cycle of a stars life is what creates the astral infection. Draedon saying he uses a a process thats he claims is not unlike a part of the process of a stars rebirth caught my eye
frozen star
what the fuck are the pylons
are they non-canon? Cuz draedon states he's looking for teleporters that don't need wires
has this been explained somewhere
jaunty wraith
I'm not sure if it's canon or not
If it is, it make sense draedon wouldnt be able to use them
They require not just a group of people, but a group to be happy. Considering draedon was considered a myth for the longest time and some of his dialogue leaning toward him being very isolated
graceful otter
pylons require colonisation first
im sure draedon is thinking more of sending a wireless machine somewhere in the universe and itd just work
jaunty wraith
And the few he did interact with all ended up despising him in the end. Plus him dumping in the sulpher sea did make him quite hated
jaunty wraith
Actually heres a question I have
The event where draedons plague experiments send yharim into a rage and release the plaguebringer happened far before you the player even start the journey
Why does it take until after golem for the plague to show up?
As far as I can tell the plague has no connection to golem in any way
spring helm
As far as I can tell the plague has no connection to golem in any way
headcaonon:
The Lihzahrds kept the plague at bay so it was an isolated issue until we the players destroy their temple
golden hill
so just to check, are the lore items yharim's observations?
graceful otter
yes
yharim is indeed a character, so he can be wrong, or just straight up lie, or conveniently not tell you a piece of information
golden hill
yeah gotcha, i'm just recently getting into this lore so its pretty interesting
yharim as a character is very, very well built up, both by time and just the lore in game
graceful otter
i highly recommend reading the calamity bestiary entries
golden hill
ooo, i will, thanks
graceful otter
a lot of them tell important info
keen hearth
Does this imply that we name stuff like Miracle matter and some bosses by ourselves?
graceful otter
yes
fringe quarry
Could a dragon consume an auric soul from another dragon
lean crag
Unfortunately the ascension ritual requires opposable thumbs 😔
(I’m joking, it’s unknown but depending on the specifics of the ritual, it maybe possibly could be feasible idk just my guess)
graceful otter
Unfortunately the ascension ritual requires opposable thumbs 😔
dragon of opposable thumbs:
lean crag
jaunty wraith
Lore items provide insight on yharim's perspective. Though being from his perspective there is going to be much bias
The bestiary provides an objective view
hoary cape
Yah yahrim's view on the whole god part could entirely be wrong
Though maybe it's right who knows at the moment
Killing gods though shouldn't be the way
jade root
Yharim basically went full doom slayer on the gods
forest knot
Does Calamitas REALLY love the smell of brimstone in the morning?
jaunty wraith
She grew up there, so it's not unreasonable it could be a nostalgic scent
forest knot
Dang, guess I’ll have to get a plant or something from there
jaunty wraith
Okay so my quest for writing all the vanilla bestiaries to reflect the calamity lore so far has kept hitting one roadblock and I can't seem to find an answer to it anywhere on the wiki so I'm wondering if anyone here knows it
What is the lore of the forest biome?
scenic yacht
im pretty sure its just a forest, i dont think theres anything special
hushed geyser
What is the lore of the forest biome?
Fargos lumberjack
jaunty wraith
That's Strange though... Every other biome has some relevence to the lore of yharim's crusade. and considering it was worldwide I find it unlikley the forest was untouched
jaunty wraith
I mean for a forest biome the trees are pretty sparse
Maybe that can be the lore, deforestation
pliant ruin
pliant ruin
I mean for a forest biome the trees are pretty sparse
i mean i don't think there's much to it
it's a forest
yup
it
it sure is a forest
not like every biome has major relevance to the lore
spring helm
is that you cheese
graceful otter
thats it
pliant ruin
is that you cheese
spring helm
jaunty wraith
Yeah but they a least have somthing
The tundra is where the Archmage permafrost resided, basically being his domain with how many creatures stem from his magic
The Desert is a direct result of Calamitas incinerating Ilmiras
The ocean being the place where Anahita fled after silva took over the abyss
The corruption/Crimson/Hallow being direct results of a slain god
The jungle is where the queen bees and lihzard tribe reside, Plus possibly being the home of the dryads and silva
The forest is... Just a forest. Doesn't really give me much
jaunty wraith
Statis is a character I don't know much about
Mainly cause I have no idea where to find infomation on him
scenic yacht
i mean you can look in the lore doc if you havent
pliant ruin
hes uhhh gay and he beat up yharim real bad with his boyfriend also he likes slime god
scenic yacht
there should be some stuff on him there
jaunty wraith
Where can I find the lore doc, this could be very important for my quest
pliant ruin
pins
jaunty wraith
Got it
graceful otter
Yeah but they a least have somthing
The tundra is where the Archmage permafrost...
the surface desert, and a bit of the underground too, existed before the incineration
pliant ruin
oh wait really
that's interesting
oh wait, i imagine as more of a beach than a actual desert back then
pliant ruin
the surface desert, and a bit of the underground too, existed before the inciner...
dev statement i imagine?
though in hindsight it wouldn't make much sense for the surface desert to also have been fully submerged before given it's on the same level as the rest of the world
So it'd be uhhh, a bit physically impossible for it to be submerged
scenic yacht
also most large worlds have multiple deserts (surface only ones) and calamitas only incinerated one so you can assume that the others existed from just natural climate unless im stupid 
pliant ruin
ye the ones that don't have SS under them would just be normal deserts
scenic yacht
ye and surface desert above underground would be the same
graceful otter
dev statement i imagine?
well firstly, other surface deserts exists, so its not exactly an impossible climate to have existed
second, the surface and underground are already native of desert only creatures, not adapted sunken sea ones
thirdly, great sand sharks entry talks of an "upper sandy shore", literally meaning. just sand. which is what a desert would practically be for an underground water cave system.
pliant ruin
well firstly, other surface deserts exists, so its not exactly an impossible cli...
Well tbf these are very valid points but the way you phrased it made it sound outright confirmed
graceful otter
o yea and
ig dev statements too but thats dev statements
when the evidence is alr in game u dont need dev statements
pliant ruin
ye but id avoid stating things that arent outright confirmed as if they were cuz it might get confusing
wheat walrus
ig dev statements too but thats dev statements
🫶❤️🚬
pliant ruin
it makes sense though
jaunty wraith
well firstly, other surface deserts exists, so its not exactly an impossible cli...
Upper sandy shore" seems to imply a beach more than a desert IMO
graceful otter
Upper sandy shore" seems to imply a beach more than a desert IMO
ilmeris was completely underground
wheat walrus
ilmeris was completely underground
no beaches?
-me to Ilmeris
pliant ruin
Cuz there'd be actual water underground so it wouldn't be as . dry .
I like to imagine that
graceful otter
Cuz there'd be actual water underground so it wouldn't be as . dry .
an oasis can spawn in the desert biome
pliant ruin
pre-incineration illmeris would probably just be like
a really deep crater lake
i know it's reffered to as a sea
pliant ruin
but i think when taking things literally it probably was just a very deep lake in terms of appearance, surrounded by a open beach that would be the current desert
wheat walrus
less of a sea or lake and more of an aquifer for all I know here
pliant ruin
could also be a aquifer but i'm basing this of the idea that it would be visible on the surface pre-incineration
so i guess it'd probably be more like a aquifer
with just a small surface portion visible
jaunty wraith
Okay I skimmed through the document
The primordial wyrm, a being of draconic descendance empowered by The goddess of life and the first of his kind...
His name is jared
Just jared
wheat walrus
Jared.
jaunty wraith
Fovos is a name that is unique name
I can probably walk around my niegberhood and find someone named jared
wheat walrus
ngl my country has a lot of people named Fovos
pliant ruin
hi im fovos
wheat walrus
hi im fovos
are you italian
pliant ruin
no im cheese
wheat walrus
italian cheese
jaunty wraith
So fovos is an italian name?
jaunty wraith
Aw, I just had this funny idea that the moon lord is italian
wheat walrus
Aw, I just had this funny idea that the moon lord is italian
time to hunt
draw me armed with a supercharged buffed omnious Murasama ready to slice Fovos into sea food
jaunty wraith
Time to splat the moon lord like he's a splatoon character
spring helm
okay well what does your guy look like
wheat walrus
okay well what does your guy look like
spring helm
wheat walrus
idk just draw a demonshade guy idk
spring helm
iirc demonshade is going to be made into a calamitas armour right?
wheat walrus
pretty sure yes
spring helm
draw me armed with a supercharged buffed omnious Murasama ready to slice Fovos i...
what does "supercharged buffed ominous" Murasama mean
pliant ruin
draw me armed with a supercharged buffed omnious Murasama ready to slice Fovos i...
draw me instead and i have a cool frog iwth me
hushed geyser
draw me instead and i have a cool frog iwth me
How cool
wheat walrus
what does "supercharged buffed ominous" Murasama mean
Murasama if it was what Calamity fans wanted it to be (the end of the world as a weapon)
hushed geyser
Damn
spring helm
lore discussion time!!!!
Outside of the infinite energy of the exoprisms, what benefits would upgrading the various gear the terrarian has with exotech give?
stark basalt
Cool armor
jade root
Murasama if it was what Calamity fans wanted it to be (the end of the world as a...
Calamity fans when they can't spawn with a weapon that 1 shots every single boss in the game: 
brazen coral
RGB lights
spring helm
@wheat walrus here's the uh "you" concept i've drawn up
now i got to come up with what prime fovos looked like
lore chat
what did the moon lord's lower half look like?
humanoid legs or octopus tentacles?
visual kiln
spring helm
hello
zenith rune
spring helm
it's just the plague
you could call it the nano plague or something similar if you wanted, since the pathogen are nanomachines
polar bolt
is yharon dead?
scenic yacht
yharon will rebirth in a decade
jaunty wraith
Man that was a hefty read through the lore
Though The format of it I absolutly Love. and it also gave me an idea
Instead of starting with the bestiary, I'm gonna fill out lore for the biomes and events that don't have lore items. Instead of starting with yharims view on the subject, I'll start by putting the dash points the lore had to compress infomation easier first then build off from there
Here's the example I have for the forest
Forest
- By far the safest place in the world damaged by Yharim’s crusade. It’s Virtually untouched by the war.
- The small number of trees is due to deforestation for settlements.
steep siren
• Dont trust the bunnies
jaunty wraith
I don't know how the hell I'm going to write entries for the critters
steep siren
Bnuy- A white fluffy creature filled with malice. Truly the most foul and heinous creation of the gods
If i was as hyperfixated as i was a year ago on calamity id totally take a crack at making bestiary entries for every single mob
sinful adder
I think it would be wise to wait for more lore to be revealed. Also, not every bestiary entry has to be related to the war or yharim or other important characters
Of the ones in calamity, only a handful give any important information
You shouldn't be thinking "how is this related to the plot of calamity", you should be thinking "what is this creature's story"
steep siren
So true!
The most interesting parts of the lore imo is the worldbuilding
Its prob why i fucking adore the abyss/sulphuric sea and the astral infection
stuck bane
I think a really interesting part of there lore is how the people LIKE blood moons.
turbid wind
I think a really interesting part of there lore is how the people LIKE blood moo...
not everyone though
Some people were fighting for their lives
neat tinsel
I think a really interesting part of there lore is how the people LIKE blood moo...
I don’t blame them tbh, put on boss rush tier 4 music box and blood moon grinding gets a lot less painful
stuck bane
I don’t blame them tbh, put on boss rush tier 4 music box and blood moon grindin...
Trial of the insane goes hard
turbid wind
fr
fierce pagoda
Does aerialite contain traces of draconic essence?
fierce pagoda
what about uelibloom, does it contain energy from providence?
also mentioned that its fossilized tree bark
hoary berry
uelibloom is likely to be scrapped in the future
and replaced with something to do with profaned stuff
graceful otter
what about uelibloom, does it contain energy from providence?
yes, as explained in bloom slimes entry
fierce pagoda
I see
Is there a particular reason for Cryonic ore and Perennial ore generating after their respective boss has been killed?
graceful otter
i dont think so
hoary berry
canonically they are already there, aren't they? or is that just with auric
graceful otter
actually
wait
Slimes enchanted by the Archmage, as a host to crystallize the frozen power of the tundra into a magical metal. He cast a spell to hide away most of his creations and research soon after leaving the Godseeker’s side, well aware that Yharim may attempt to exploit his previous work.
cryo slimes entry
so, cryonic was intentionally hidden by perma after his leaving
so essentially
cryonic ore is a gift from perma for freeing him
hoary berry
that's really cool actually
fierce pagoda
wow neat
graceful otter
tho
perennial slime brings something interesting up
if its imbued with silvas power
and perennial is post plant
does that mean silva and plant are linked?
graceful otter
if thats true then, does that mean the vernal pass is related to silva
maybe its people were dryads
hoary berry
interesting that they would need to use souls to "bring forth a new age of botanical prosperity” but ig we don't really know the average dryad's powers
or any dryad's for that matter, aside from some of silva's
pliant ruin
good morninglorers
hoary berry
morning
graceful otter
good morninglorers
mornin
leaden bridge
Is there a particular reason for Cryonic ore and Perennial ore generating after ...
the ore wizard
hoary berry
a rather oreful plant
fierce pagoda
Does life alloy have a uniqe property that isnt present in any of its components?
trim edge
you can craft different items with it
real silo
since it's an alloy maybe perhaps it's harder than the base metals
scenic olive
its alive
fierce pagoda
Draedon said is the life essence of the planet. Whatever that means
What's the difference between ecto plasma and necroplasm
Other than that one is blue and the other is pink
leaden bridge
necroplasm is more condensed probably
trim edge
angrier ectoplasm
steep siren
Necroplasm is like premium gas compared to regular
pliant ruin
Water vs Rich Person Water
summer spruce
you can hear screams echo from the dungeon - when defeating plantera
you can hear shrieks echoing from the dunheon - when defeating ml, i think
so ig yea its just angrier ectoplasm as that one dude said
boreal zinc
you can hear screams echo from the dungeon - when defeating plantera
you can hea...
the most confusing thing is that angry phantoms are second strongest. the first is happy.
any reasons why?
hoary berry
that's what makes the happy ones so powerful
pliant ruin
the most confusing thing is that angry phantoms are second strongest. the first ...
they watched too many saturday morning family cartoons and got stronger through the power of friendship
boreal zinc
Dominik Toretto moment
tidal mantle
Or they are calm enough to know how to get gain idk
spring helm
If I ever make a novelization of the Calamity mod, I would end each chapter with “what a Calamity”
hoary berry
If I ever make a novelization of the Calamity mod, I would end each chapter with...
how calamitous indeed
latent bolt
hear me out: happy phantom spirits appear to be happy because they are actively sadistic
those ones actively enjoy consuming and attacking other creatures and spirits
boreal zinc
those ones actively enjoy consuming and attacking other creatures and spirits
i really like this
digital cedar
It's actually because anger is a very bad emotion. I mean, look at me, i've never gotten angry in my whooole life and i'm doing pretty good :p
hoary berry
wdym? anger solves every issue ever
solar wharf
anger has applications
obviously too much of it
is always bad
and it at wrong times is also bad
but it isnt inherently bad
digital cedar
wdym? anger solves every issue ever
Hmm. Personally, all of my issues are resolved by listening to shitty nightcore playlists most of the time, but i respect your methods!
solar wharf
VIOLENCE!!!!
spring helm
- Yharim about to start his crusade
random mulch
this tale of a world sure is cruel. the
digital cedar
Honestly, i think none of calamity would've happened if someone just fed Yharim a Snickers. Hell, just feed Moon Lord a Snickers too, while we're at it. Peace achieved.
humble fog
Then they would have gone to war over which side of twix
mighty zenith
kills people
digital cedar
Oh gee, what a conundrum. I wonder if anyone here could get cheese to show up in about one minute or so.
humble fog
kills people
:<
pliant ruin
Oh gee, what a conundrum. I wonder if anyone here could get cheese to show up in...
its so convenient thati showed up exactly one minute as this discord user i do not know at all said
mhm yup
very
uh
convenient
yep
spring helm
hello
wheat walrus
loriferous
spring helm
why have we been summoned
solar wharf
imagine if draedon was actually open minded about science rather than
solar wharf
"i find this interesting, fuck everything else"
stark basalt
Same bruh
stark basalt
Calamitas is just cool
pliant ruin
draedon is probs on the top 3 though
stark basalt
I like tragic characters
solar wharf
my blood BOILS when i see calamitas, this MASS murderer.. i hate them so much
anyway
yharims so cool
pliant ruin
devourer of gods might genuinely be my third favorite atp
solar wharf
i love yharim!!
pliant ruin
yharim is actually such a fkin cool character as much as i love trashtalking him hes 100% either 3rd or 4th place for me
it just sucks that ppl like him for the wrong reasons
solar wharf
i agree i was just making slander about how
some people dislike calamitas for reasons
similar to why u would dislike yharim
i think all the main casts are cool as shit
spring helm
when are they going to add Super Calamitas as her final phase?
pliant ruin
like yharim and provi and all that suck ass as people
but as characters
they go hard
pliant ruin
when are they going to add Super Calamitas as her final phase?
Supreme Calamitas..................
Sigma Calamitas...............
Alpha Calamitas.........
spring helm
This is... SUPREMER CALAMITAS
solar wharf
is there even an actual good in calamity? at best they just seem morally gray
ig permafrost?
but didnt permafrost join yharim
stark basalt
Permafrost is stinky
pliant ruin
calamity is really realistic in how it depicts characters tbh cuznone of them are
spring helm
the nurse
solar wharf
unrelistic smh, im 100% good trust me
spring helm
🧀 what happened to you, you've been cut in twain!
mighty zenith
i mean its kinda hard to find a good person in a world for CALAMITY mod
pliant ruin
braelor n statis but evne then they aren't without flaw cuz statis made a deal with signus
spring helm
more like we just don't know enough about them
pliant ruin
🧀 what happened to you, you've been cut in twain!
moderator cut me in half :(
stark basalt
We do know some critical info tho
mighty zenith
thats like looking for a pacifist in a world called "murder"
stark basalt
But not enough
humble fog
The draedon
Draedon
stark basalt
Draedon goes hard
spring helm
so draedon discussion is what you desire?
pliant ruin
Tbh i think my favorite characters are those who are good people but are still heavily flawed
spring helm
what would it take to convince draedon to fix the world
stark basalt
Bro just has to put his mind to it
spring helm
but he dont wanna
pliant ruin
Tbh i think my favorite characters are those who are good people but are still h...
I don't mean like
People who are right in the middle and are neutral with some bad or good qualities
i mean ppl who straight up are good or are trying to be good, but are still heavily flawed and do stupid shit
humble fog
Lore people
Why did you want me for this 
pliant ruin
so in other words everyone in the madoka magica cast. ok thanks cheese.
there's just smth to me so charminga bout
a character who clearly still has negative traits and flaws, isn't entirely 100% a goodie two shoes
yet still is trying their hardest to be a good person
stark basalt
Why did you want me for this <:boohoo:792848211488407572>
Because you are of the lore
Group
pliant ruin
it feels so human to me, and i find it pretty relatable too
stark basalt
I love human characters like that
The world is a very grey place
People constantly change
stark basalt
I love seeing representation of characters who don’t fall into the typical archetypes that we see on so many shows
solar wharf
a character who clearly still has negative traits and flaws, isn't entirely 100%...
i never like goodie two shoes characters, they felt so bland
there is no hole in their morality or anything like that
it just becomes a point of
"well the other guy clearly a shitty person"
spring helm
i never like goodie two shoes characters, they felt so bland
i like superman
he's a star man
waiting in the sky
solar wharf
superman grew on me but i wouldnt be surprised if i didnt like him if i JUST now
watched
or read
spring helm
fair enough
spring helm
superman is only likeable when he's written well (like everyone else)
pliant ruin
i never like goodie two shoes characters, they felt so bland
Tbh
I think you can make a goodie two shoes character work as long as you make them feel natural
Give them actual flaws and human traits besides I'm The Best Person Ever and i'm Super Strong and Never Do Anything Wrong
A person who truly wants the best for everyone and cares deeply about others but has flaws that stop them from being able to truly be as good as they wish they could be can make for a fantastic character
so in other words mami tomoe from madoka magica ok thanks cheese. youre so cool
solar wharf
ye but they arent a good two shoes at that point, they just become... well a morally correct human being
pliant ruin
Tbh i think the term i'd use for that is more like
what ois it called
mary sue??? idk
like that 1 character thats just good at everything and always morally correct and has 0 flaws
solar wharf
ye i understand
spring helm
a mary sue is not just a flawless character, but one who the story will bend over backwards to make flawless, regardless of any wrongdoings
pliant ruin
real as fuck
spring helm
okay let's go back to calamity lore
pliant ruin
tbh there isnt much i can think of to discuss right now
unless someone brings up a calamity fish enemy thta i can railroad into a marine biology conversation again
stark basalt
Let’s see
spring helm
you are going to get in trouble with the mods one day for that
stark basalt
Why does shark need legs in gfb
humble fog
unless someone brings up a calamity fish enemy thta i can railroad into a marine...
Jared
spring helm
okay then cheese, what kind of adaptations would the marine life have made to survive the acidification and radiation of the sulphurous sea
stark basalt
Explain that one cheeseburger
humble fog
okay then cheese, what kind of adaptations would the marine life have made to su...
Why is this like a game show 😭
spring helm
you are toys on a playset meant to entertain me
humble fog
Why is the hemogoblin shark
pliant ruin
okay then cheese, what kind of adaptations would the marine life have made to su...
Well realistically all i can think of is like
Rougher skin so the acid dosen't corrode them, maybe ''eyelids" like some animals have that allows them to stop water from entering their eyes, and probably a new breathing system for most of the fish cuz if they just use regular gills they'd be breathing sulphur
radioactivity uhhh i got nothing they just kinda gotta get used to it
humble fog
radioactivity uhhh i got nothing they just kinda gotta get used to it
Really just said cope
pliant ruin
"oh mother earth, please, let us evolve a trait so we don't succumb to the nuclear waste"
"cope lol"
"what"
"mald"
humble fog
Who are they talking to
Are the fish schizo
Has the radiation already gotten to them
spring helm
"How's my favourite marine life doing?"
"We are in a constant state of agony"
spring helm
Who are they talking to
silva
humble fog
She does not care
stark basalt
Mother Silva
supple thunder
doesn’t some lore thing say she helped sustain life in the abyss
spring helm
Yes
But that’s more because her mere presence encourages life to flourish
I don’t think it’s a conscious effort on her part
brazen moth
i would date silva
she seems pretty cool
i like the idea that she and xeroc got their auric souls willingly from the dragons and that’s why they share the same domain
slender ingot
what does the "H" mean in HF, HS, and HM? I know that the X in XF, XS, and XM most likely means "exo"
random mulch
probably hallowed cause the mechs are made out of hallowed
earnest flare
the h is hallowed yes
zinc lance
High frequency 
wheat walrus
High frequency <:armsmirk:399440421446746112>
murasamer
wheat walrus
chool
barren sonnet
"harmode"
slender ingot
probably hallowed cause the mechs are made out of hallowed
oh, that makes sense actually
scenic olive
Mother Silva
Mother silva i require sustenance
stark basalt
Give me that nature
scenic olive
probably hallowed cause the mechs are made out of hallowed
okay the hallowed ore spawning after killing all three mechs actually makes sense
random mulch
they were filled with a lot more hallowed than is supposed to be possible and the last mech just kinda epxlodes and throws it around the place
scenic olive
are we going to get the recipe for exo alloy eventually
scenic olive
they were filled with a lot more hallowed than is supposed to be possible and th...
okay but how is it only available in hallow biome
not anywhere else
random mulch
cause hallowed just kinda does that
trim edge
what would yharim's favourite irl country be
slender ingot
Isn't hallowed ore just a sacred stone?
buoyant inlet
Hallowed ore is godly metal
slender ingot
well, it doesn't specify if it is a metal or not because it says: "The hallow has been blessed with consecrated stone!"
jaunty wraith
Consecrated means being sacred, not nessesary godly
graceful otter
its godly because its literally created by god essence
demonite and crimtane are also godly metals
slender ingot
Btw, on a similar subject, what god was killed to create chlorophyte ore?
buoyant inlet
None
jaunty wraith
In game, chlorophyte starts spawning after the third mech
jaunty wraith
I believe perennial ore has some connection to Silva based of the perennial slime bestiary
slender ingot
In game, chlorophyte starts spawning after the third mech
In Calamity?
jaunty wraith
Yes, chlorophyte starts spawning and spreading after the third mech, same as in the base game
slender ingot
Yeah
jaunty wraith
I always forget that cause I never go to the jungle pre Mechs lol
slender ingot
I believe perennial ore has some connection to Silva based of the perennial slim...
I think so, yeah
lol
I mean, who would?
slender ingot
Hm
scenic olive
it starts generating in hardmode
slender ingot
Btw, do you think that the reason for why new ores start spawning is because of some god(s)?
jaunty wraith
Well I know uleibloom is going to be replaced sometime in the future
scenic olive
Btw, do you think that the reason for why new ores start spawning is because of ...
my headcanon for this is that the fight between terrarian and the trio mech shook the ground up and reveals new ore
slender ingot
lol
scenic olive
welp omni is going to kill me now
slender ingot
Well I know uleibloom is going to be replaced sometime in the future
Really?
jaunty wraith
Yeah, the FAQ says it will since it doesn't really fit Providence
slender ingot
Oh yeah, true
scenic olive
since shes the goddess of ash
would her ore spawn in underworld
because its full of ash blocks
jaunty wraith
I think it would be the hallow or underworld
vale hearth
See, Uelibloom and Providence made some sense to me
scenic olive
See, Uelibloom and Providence made some sense to me
how
vale hearth
It's a slight modification on the "volcanic soil is the most fertile" science
slender ingot
I think it would be the hallow or underworld
They said that profaned enemies will no longer spawn in the hallow
jaunty wraith
Oh alright
vale hearth
isnt uelibloom lore is thats its a fossil
I point you to Pompeii, is that not a form of fossilization
jaunty wraith
Assuming you won't be able to fight her in the hallow either then
slender ingot
I think you should be able to fight her anywhere tbh
slender ingot
isnt uelibloom lore is thats its a fossil
Fossilized tree bark more specifically
scenic olive
how is that a stronger material than luminite
solar wharf
uelibloom is planned to be changed as it doesnt make sense
slender ingot
how is that a stronger material than luminite
well natural luminite is pretty soft to begin with anyway
slender ingot
okay correction: unrefined
slender ingot
okay, unenchanted?
slender ingot
luminite is already pure
Wait no, I mean the ore
slender ingot
if the ore is pure then why do we have to make it into a bar?
scenic olive
i meant the exodium cluster
scenic olive
if the ore is pure then why do we have to make it into a bar?
So its easy to work with
You dont use a furnace to forge luminite
because it has no impurity
slender ingot
Oh yeah, that is true actually
well, the point is that luminite is a soft material
scenic olive
Also what is the implication of auric ore not needing to be smelted
you just need Cosmic Anvil to turn it into bars
does this mean the player just punch it with yharon soul fragment until it becomes a bar
jaunty wraith
It does also require a yharon soul fragment, maybe its what fuses the the ore into bars
scenic olive
that sorta makes sense i guess
but like 60 ores can get compressed into 5 bars
how is that possible
stark basalt
It’s highly dense
scenic olive
yet it floats
stark basalt
Auric magic
scenic olive
rotund shore
Im reading through draetalk rn, the visual I had in my head of the dragon aerie is way different then what it probably looks like
stark basalt
Holy fuck. It’s courier in lore chat
crimson finch
Draedon must be stinky cause he’s a robot and can’t shower 
scenic olive
and
crimson finch
Draedon died a smelly tin can
scenic olive
your body
crimson finch
Deserved
crimson finch
And I’ll shower later tonight
scenic olive
your flesh has failed you
crimson finch
Yuo er’
slender ingot
I just realized that the reason why it takes 4 ores to make a bar is because that is how much is needed to keep the mass and volume after getting rid of all the impurities.
rotund shore
draedon probably gets routine shinings
scenic olive
nah he has a robot that cleans his body
slender ingot
or nanobots
rotund shore
nah he has a robot that cleans his body
My first thought was this thing from an undertale fangame
(I have terminal brainrot)
scenic olive
crimson finch
Washua from base undertale better
manic coral
Washua from base undertale better
(Inspired by Omocat)
rotund shore
My first thought was this thing from an undertale fangame
I have no idea why the gif is flashing
thanks undertale yellow wiki
rotund shore
I have no idea why the gif is flashing
thanks undertale yellow wiki
wait fuck I used the fandom wiki
manic coral
And goodbye
rotund shore
anyways hello cei
manic coral
Work calls
rotund shore
anyways goodbye cei
scenic olive
rotund shore
Huh, im glad that draetalk cleared up if storm weaver and dog are the same species
slender ingot
yeah
brazen moth
draedon is a gamer (derogatory)
brazen moth
draedon 100% plays CoD
crimson finch
Yharim definitely plays Plants Vs Zombies
Yharon was crying his final roar while Yharim was fighting Zomboss
brazen moth
what’s the lore reason for yharim guiding us through the game?
rotund shore
Yharon was crying his final roar while Yharim was fighting Zomboss
"Yharon shut the FUCK up im about to hit the final wave"
humble fog
"Yharon shut the FUCK up im about to hit the final wave"
Suck the fuck up
rotund shore
Suck the fuck up
Idk if I can even describe that as a typo
humble fog
🔥 🖊️
rotund shore
I fumbled that
crimson finch
scenic olive
what’s the lore reason for yharim guiding us through the game?
we do a little trolling
crimson finch
I feel like if every boss had a final death cutscene, Devourer of Nuts would call out to his master, Vague making it seem like Yharim, but is actually to the Dastardly Distortion Dude who Devourer serves
Or probably just turn into a puddle of mustard
Honey, not Spicy Yellow
Also why doesn’t Devourer have a name? Call him Sal or something
random mulch
despite DoG and storm weaver not being the same species, they're probably very closely related species
random mulch
draetalk confirmed DoG and SW are technically not of the same species
crimson finch
aw
scenic olive
me when weaver is older than DoG
crimson finch
what
scenic olive
its true
crimson finch
Storm weaver just shriveled with age
brazen moth
DoG is just an edgy teenager, convince me otherswise
crimson finch
Like old people do
scenic olive
crimson finch
Looks like it can slurp up voltage and junk
random mulch
wouldnt be surprised if DoG isnt a naturally occuring species
crimson finch
Mutant of weaver?!!??
scenic olive
wouldnt be surprised if DoG isnt a naturally occuring species
right hand of Noxus
random mulch
designed by noxus
brazen moth
why would noxus create an edgy teenager
crimson finch
What if Storm Weaver was called Storm Freaker and Weaved toes
brazen moth
What if Storm Weaver was called Storm Freaker and Weaved toes
ok buddy, time to take your meds
crimson finch
Please no
random mulch
why would noxus create an edgy teenager
DoG is strong and maybe also a ploy to get stronger by absorbing godly essence
crimson finch
God I wish WoTG was canon
crimson finch
Or maybe
crimson finch
His spine?!,
brazen moth
oh ok
random mulch
God I wish WoTG was canon
would be boring
brazen moth
i thought you were gonna say something else
scenic olive
crimson finch
Dirty ass
scenic olive
Noxus is very strong compared to DoG
if it had been his spine
DoG wouldve been stronger
crimson finch
What if noxus was just a purple and blue baby
And wasn’t at all strong
Just menacing
random mulch
yharim was fully confident he could kill DoG but was scared shitless by CV's existence
scenic olive
since hes just a coward that got overconfident while fighting us
median helm
my fav part is that the terrarian canonically names half of the shit he meets or makes the most corny stuff imaginable
crimson finch
Skeletron Prime |>+>+?\
Listen the Twins is menacing, but Retinazor and Spazmatism isn’t doing it
scenic olive
my fav part is that the terrarian canonically names half of the shit he meets or...
Triactics True Paladinian Mage Hammer of Might
crimson finch
Kevin:
scenic olive
crimson finch
Oh god
scenic olive
non base calamity
crimson finch
They made the Shell Phone pun
scenic olive
my fav part is that the terrarian canonically names half of the shit he meets or...
me when galaxy smasher doesnt actually smash galaxies
crimson finch
It smashes skulls
median helm
"Ah, this old man transformed into a giant Skeleton, hmmm Skeletron should do it as a name"
"Hey this robot reminds me of Skeletron, gotta name it Skeletron prime"
crimson finch
Minos
median helm
median helm
And another thing, how in the god damn hell is the Terrarian making all of this ? They can create spellbooks, swords, guns, trinkets, armours, you name it, doesn't matter if they found it in the ground or the corpse of a slain foe, you are becoming weapon or a building. Before the Draedon's Forge streamlined the process, they did that shit manually
crimson finch
Plot Armor
wheat walrus
welp omni is going to kill me now
why
scenic olive
is it plausible
for the ore generating because of the fight between terrarian and the mechs
random mulch
got bored, took a shot at a CV design
scenic olive
Biblically accurate CV
median helm
for the ore generating because of the fight between terrarian and the mechs
ore generates after beating the exo mechs? 
crimson finch
Ceraphimous Void
scenic olive
ore generates after beating the exo mechs? <:HDfailure:482263678150770729>
The Hallowed Mechs
median helm
ah
crimson finch
The Funny Named Mechs
McFuckin Spazmatism
Also Apollo and Artemis better be a fun fight because I love Eye bosses
That’s their names right?
median helm
well if hundreds of souls entered those mechs and we only get like 15 when we kill them, its possible the majority of the souls fucked off into the ground and something something the ore generates
scenic olive
They probably merged with each other
Souls do be like that sometimes
I cant wait for polterghast rework
median helm
and "the jungle grows restless" after we release hundreds, possibly thousands of souls from their metalic body seems a little to coincidental
scenic olive
no more phantom plantera
median helm
and "the jungle grows restless" after we release hundreds, possibly thousands of...
and the next time we release souls into the wild (polterghast), look at what happened to the sulhpuric sea
crimson finch
Fuck Polterghast, all my homies hate Polterghast
scenic olive
and the next time we release souls into the wild (polterghast), look at what hap...
Its wild that we dont actually kill polter
crimson finch
I was just gonna say that
forest knot
I can’t really comprehend how polterghast is an amalgam of souls, like, is there more than one being together or just one made up of the essence of many?
fierce pagoda
In Dreatalk, dreadon said that regular human souls have very little power on their own, but when combined toghether their strength increases significantly. this is how he made the Mechs. He also talks about how a souls strength comes from intense emotions and resolve. This is where Polerghasts strength comes from, countless souls coalesced togheter, all felling intense emotions of rage and hate towards Yharim.
this made them so powerful that they became the 6th most powerful boss in calamity
Anyways, the point of this is that Polerghast is an undertale refrence
forest knot
Made them so powerful they started to mimic plantera
scenic olive
Why is there two 0rion
hardy roost
Anyone else hate how they nerfed the Mechanic in calamity lore?
pliant ruin
they what
hardy roost
Like, in vanilla she built the Mech bosses
And then we have calamity, she’s just some dude that got trapped
pliant ruin
i mean
vanilla terraria lore is so whatever that i don't really care about any of the changes they made to it tbh
like it's uh
chtulhu
shows up
dryads seal him
his legs turn into corruption and crimson
or something
dungeonj guys want to bring him back and they get the mechanic to rebuild his legsl
uhhh
yeah thats all i remember lol
it's barely even. There.
graceful otter
Like, in vanilla she *built* the Mech bosses
nothing in game even proves that iirc
pliant ruin
which like no hate terraria is a good game that's clearly not designed to be built around having lore
but terraria lore is barely a Thing
graceful otter
and when the literal creator of the game said something wasnt canon because its not in game then
pliant ruin
Terraria lore is kind of like mario bros lore
as in
You are Mario this is your brother Luigi go beat up the Evil Turtle Bowser. He kidnapped Mario Wife
it's just. it's there.
I wouldn't really call it Bad because it isn't even trying to be Good to begin with
It's just. A Thing. That Exists
jaunty wraith
According to the FAQ, they said they are planning rewriting all the bestiary entries from the base game terraria entries
jaunty wraith
Well the lore says frost and pumpkin moon aren't cannon
Along with any references or crossovers
Meaning solar eclipse enemies, old ones army, and deer clips aren't cannon
(the event of the solar eclipse is cannon though)
So question
Do we know the names of the gods that created the corruption,crimson and hallow when slain?
fierce pagoda
John corruption and John crimson
pliant ruin
Do we know the names of the gods that created the corruption,crimson and hallow ...
Well
There were several
so
Those aren't single gods, they're like
a bunch of gods
or well, a bunch of corpses of gods
and their collective essence ended up creating the biomes
Corruption and Crimson were made of evil gods
Hallow was made of benevolent gods
I like to headcanon Corruption were gods that were outwardly evil while Crimson were the ones that pretended to be good and/or manipulated others
jaunty wraith
Honestly id beleve that headcannon, just switched up
pliant ruin
Mainly because of Crimson's relation with Ichor
It's a abundant in the crimson, and it's a substance colored like gold
gold is obviously, well, a good thing to have
but it actually reduces your defenses
jaunty wraith
Aside from the perforators, I don't think ichor really shows up until hard mode