lore-discussion

[graceful otter]

and frankly, it shouldnt matter

they arent important to the story

[cinder grove]

That actually makes a lot of sense

no im saying her parents dying is the same

[graceful otter]

we dont know if her parents are dead or not

[cinder grove]

oh

[stark basalt]

So much information !!!!

[dry scaffold]

you like Lord of the Rings? cause the world building in Cal is about the same

whether it is written as well is up to you

[glacial rampart]

[scarlet pecan]

y'know now that i think about it, that could be a potential for an epilogue writing fic someone could make of Callie just... learning to actually be able to love herself again

[cinder grove]

🐝 ➕ 🟰

[scarlet pecan]

a sort of 'journey of healing', in a sense

[dry scaffold]

a poor mans explanation

[cinder grove]

that would be nice

[wheat walrus]

Yharim missed the rage

[scarlet pecan]

IT'S HIP TO-

-bricked-

[wheat walrus]

guh

[cinder grove]

🔥 🌊

[stark basalt]

i found a reddit post on calamitas it that true ? : https://www.reddit.com/r/CalamityMod/comments/gh7ng8/can_someone_please_explain_me_the_lore_of/

[graceful otter]

no

[scarlet pecan]

get your mind out of the gutter, im meaning the one that is getting hit in the head with a brick

[wheat walrus]

4 years ago lmao

[stark basalt]

oh

[wheat walrus]

it's old as hell

[wheat walrus]

hunting monster activities

[stark basalt]

OH DIDN'T SEE SORRY

[wheat walrus]

alr

[novel tulip]

lmaooo old lore was wild

[scarlet pecan]

looking back on old lore is like a fever dream

[brazen moth]

i don’t like this idea, i think there shouldn’t have to be a lore reason why a character has their sexuality. she could just be aro ace

[graceful otter]

^

a character can be aroace just because they are

[scarlet pecan]

i just thought it was an interesting thing to think about

[brazen moth]

pretty sure most asexual people aren’t ace because of some past trauma, it’s just hardwired in their brain to not like sex

[wheat walrus]

plus the fact that like, aren't people usually born like that instead of becoming like that

[brazen moth]

yep

[wheat walrus]

:3

[brazen moth]

:3

[scarlet pecan]

-shrug-

i just thought it was interesting at the time

[stark basalt]

:3

[brazen moth]

that’s fine, no one’s calling you a bad person or anything

[wheat walrus]

alr I get that

[spring helm]

All within calculations

[scarlet pecan]

ok so, new topic discussion

i know there's four main elementals

but why out of all of them is Anahita the only one ythat gets a proper name?

[spring helm]

silva is named

[scarlet pecan]

i dont know if silva counts since she's a goddess

[graceful otter]

silva does count

[spring helm]

afaik there isn't just one cloud elemental

hmmm, i might be wrong there

here's the cloud elemental bestiary

"Part of a solitary elemental that rarely appears aside from when her domain is at its strongest. Many attempts were made by what remained of Yharim’s forces to hunt down the elementals after Azafure fell. Only now that the war has passed do the weaker elementals dare return."

maybe the one's with more personality got named

[leaden bridge]

Why the fuck would yharim do that

[spring helm]

revenge i suppose

an elemental did burn down The First City

[dusty saffron]

scal accidentally also burned it down with the brimstone elemental in the fight

[spring helm]

yeah

but scal had the protection of Yharim

and besides

look at her

she's innocent

[dusty saffron]

give her a hug

[scarlet pecan]

probably used that as part of his god genociding crusade excuse

[dusty saffron]

i think thats called self-hatred and depression, not aroace

[glacial rampart]

Can you please stop saying this
I know what you're expressing but its just weird

[spring helm]

sonic v sonic discourse

[buoyant inlet]

who is the faker

[tall delta]

i loooooove lore

[dusty saffron]

do you think scal needs a hug

[tall delta]

idk

let me think

[zealous pier]

i love lore

[tall delta]

maybe

becuz hugs are nice😊

[glacial rampart]

but do you love DRAGON INSTALL?!

https://tenor.com/view/sol-badguy-sol-badguy-guilty-gear-guilty-gif-26590237

[tall delta]

No i dont watch dragon ball

well i watched some sagas

[glacial rampart]

DRAGON BALL???

😭

YOU'RE JOKING RIGHT

[dusty saffron]

and she has trauma

[vernal kestrel]

In Terraria what months names are? I seen Vetrasyl come up with naming system around year ago, is it still up?

[dusty saffron]

can i make a cosmilite SLINKY

[glacial rampart]

PLEASE i need answers

[tall delta]

ZzzZz.....

[dusty saffron]

they're having a goofy discussion there is no lore being said here

[glacial rampart]

its not a goofy discussion I SHOWED A GUILTY GEAR THING AND ACOON SAID "yeah ive seen some dragon ball ig" 😭

[buoyant inlet]

damn that's a cool scene from jojo i want to watch it now

[vernal kestrel]

Sadly

[glacial rampart]

🖕

[buoyant inlet]

💥

[glacial rampart]

I feel like i remember seeing this as well but I couldnt direct you towards it

[vernal kestrel]

I find a message, just don't sure if it's still actual info

[glacial rampart]

keep in mind that something is only canon if its said in game iirc

[zealous pier]

anyone know if this means yharim left without speaking or if he spoke with certainty

[stark basalt]

He spoke with certainty

[forest knot]

What materials would I use to build a starship? Lore wise? I’m using cosmilite bricks for starters

It looks circuit-y

[zealous pier]

astral blocks

[forest knot]

Also, who is responsible for the wulfrum robots

[zealous pier]

if we're talking canonically, draedon is capable of space travel already but he cant because the astral infection eats all his space ships

which is why he's actively trying to find a cure

so any starship would also get infected

[forest knot]

Wait, so the infection is scattered all across orbit? Like a planetary prison?

[zealous pier]

whoever was i think got changed to be unspecified but it was likely someone related to draedon or draedon himself

[zealous pier]

no, in calamity lore stars arent actual balls of plasma like irl

they are much smaller and made of pure mana, and are living beings

[forest knot]

Fuuuuuuuuuuuck

[zealous pier]

when they die their bodies have to be disposed of properly or they rot into the astral infection

[forest knot]

I’ve based all my builds on the fact that stars are pure energy 😭

[zealous pier]

astrum deus used to stop that by eating dead stars before the astral infection would form but one day it evolved to infect astrum deus instead

so he threw a piece of it at earth and thats why the meteor lands in hardmode

[zealous pier]

they are still pure energy, just magical energy

[barren sonnet]

in calamity, stars are balls of mana that accumulated over time

[zealous pier]

nothing changes about them except they arent a bajillion miles away or 9000 degress celsius

[zealous pier]

^

[barren sonnet]

from "ambient mana" that was floating around space

[zealous pier]

thats why they're associated with magic so much and why fallen stars are used to craft the mana increase thigns

[forest knot]

So space travel is impossible in calamity lore…?

[zealous pier]

its not impossible, its just the fact that the astral infection is everywhere in space now since astrum deus doesnt eat dead stars anymore

[eager bluff]

deus is 1 of a species

[forest knot]

Dang… No Star Wars settings in calamity

[eager bluff]

so no space is not full of astral

[zealous pier]

draedon says its super easy to cure the infection on the planet because he can use the clentaminator just like we can, but in space the clentaminator doesnt work since its an air gun kinda so he needs to find something that can

[zealous pier]

well maybe not full full but definitely enough that draedon can't even get to the moon without finding a cure

[forest knot]

Yeah, but by logic, not all extraterrestrials have developed the clentaminator or anything similar

[zealous pier]

although he also wants to invent wireless teleporters for when he reaches the moon so he can beam resources back to earth without wasting fuel

i assume if the astral infection and travel speed wasnt a problem, draedon would def be able to explore outer space and so would we since we have his tech too

so yeah space travel is possible by technicality in calamity lore

[forest knot]

I wanted to build on the lore and be a space-based leader-figure of some sort , where I’ve colonized the solar system and am capable of interstellar travel

[zealous pier]

tbh i think thats not impossible for you

we've already done shit that draedon couldn't

we actually invented miracle matter which is why he begrudgingly calls it that because he is humble enough to give credit where its due

[dusty saffron]

we made that shit on accident

[zealous pier]

i think part of why he hasnt found a cure for the astral infection is that he still wants to study all its inner workings and materials, and is lacking creativity since he hasnt been inspired in a while

[forest knot]

Like I also want to reverse engineer cosmilite and exo tech into a fleet of ships

[zealous pier]

well what do you mean by reverse engineer?

[forest knot]

Like, obtain it from say the devourer of gods and the exo mechs and incorporate it into my builds

Implying that I have managed to research its properties and am mass producing it for my fleet in a facility somewhere

[zealous pier]

ah

quick question have you read the new draedon communication dialogue

[forest knot]

If cosmilite comes from space or the pocket dimension, wherever, I want to imply in my builds that I’ve sent people or automatons out to collect it on a mass scale

[buoyant inlet]

Cosmilite comes from the distortion

And its normal state is most likely liquid

[forest knot]

And the exo tech be replicated by research after I’ve defeated the mechs

[zealous pier]

have you read the new dialogue from communicating with draedon

[forest knot]

No

[buoyant inlet]

at least its planned that when the distortion is finally out, you will obtain cosmilite in here and it will be liquid

[zealous pier]

you might like it

he literally explains exactly what exotech is and how it works

[forest knot]

Noted

[zealous pier]

its on the calamity wiki

on the codebreaker page

[forest knot]

Gotcha

[spring helm]

hello lore chat

[forest knot]

Hi

[spring helm]

i've found the in-game pov of a god being hunted back in yharim's prime godseeking days

[fair pelican]

Will we ever see on the official xeroc and other (dark god I forgot the name) in their battles or we'll get a sneak peek before that?

[spring helm]

we might get them after yharim

[fair pelican]

what am I looking at there's so much stuff on the screen

[zealous pier]

noxus

[forest knot]

Putting “a calamity” in Calamity

[spring helm]

exo mechs, Calamitas, DoG, and Yharon

[fair pelican]

Their fights will be after yharim yeah but it will be a separate update I think

[spring helm]

average god experience during the crusade

[fair pelican]

yeah that's big stuff

[zealous pier]

remember xeroc and noxus are no longer directly related like they were in the old lore

[forest knot]

corex and suxon

[fair pelican]

I never said they were

[spring helm]

i tried actually fighting all of them at the same time and Calamitas peaced the fuck out immediately

i didnt even beat her

lore accurate tbh

[zealous pier]

i think she's still mad about the clone incident

[forest knot]

Where would I arrange for calamitas to live once I defeat her? Prison or home?

[zealous pier]

home

[brazen moth]

i don’t think exo mechs existed during the crusade, right?

[spring helm]

draedon is yapping while yharon is freaking out

also lore accurate

[spring helm]

that's true

[brazen moth]

home, she’s sorry

[spring helm]

i should have summoned the mech trio instead

[forest knot]

[small citrus]

Home with Granddad Permafrost

[forest knot]

Is that actually her grandpa

[small citrus]

Not biologically

[forest knot]

Oh

[zealous pier]

hes an adoptive father figure of sorts

[brazen moth]

i think she calls him father

not dad

but father

[buoyant inlet]

With calamitas red filter being removed I hope Yharon's orange filter will also be removed or at least changed

[humble fog]

The guillotine

But not for long

[spring helm]

filter gone yippee

also

5'11" vs 6'

[humble fog]

Incredible timing on also

[spring helm]

lmao

[humble fog]

Right before the porn bot

[spring helm]

the fight is so colourful now

very nice

alright lore chat

if catastrophe and cataclysm are so big

why is calamitas the size of an ant

[hushed geyser]

This looks weird out of context

[humble fog]

Shush

[hushed geyser]

Hi mao

[spring helm]

):

i teleported out of her arena and she blew up my house

[humble fog]

Just saying

[buoyant inlet]

Relatable

Hate when it happens

[humble fog]

Is that an onion

[forest knot]

What if dreidon made the plague mechs

[hushed geyser]

Moldy onion

[forest knot]

I would be so pissed if he didn’t name Skeletron prime “Lich”

[viral dagger]

is there any lore reason for the dungeon to be right above the abyss, or is that just a worldgen thing?

[zealous pier]

he literally did

or do you mean mechanical bosses but plagued

[forest knot]

When you kill polterghast the spirits go to the abyss

In simplest terms

[viral dagger]

i thought that was a progression thing, thats wierd

[forest knot]

Yea

[forest knot]

The abyss is also above the brimstone crags, which leaks up to the surface to create the suplhurous seas

Hell polluted the ocean

[viral dagger]

yes, azafures industry created teh sulphur sea

[zealous pier]

because of polterghast and because some of the members of the dragon cult went and lived in the abyss and are called eidolists

thats why they have the same color clothes and drop the lunatic cultist summon

[viral dagger]

THATS WHY YOU CAN SPAWN THE PILLARS WITH AN EIDOLIST DROP

OHHHHHHHH

[forest knot]

Is the eidolon worm a ghost?

Or half/half

[viral dagger]

no its a decendant of auric dragons, like pigrons or follies

[wheat walrus]

not a ghost for all I know

[forest knot]

It drops polterplasm and the “soul edge” that’s why I figured it was like a phantom worm of some kind

[viral dagger]

apparently it gets it from the dungeon after you beat up polterghast so hard it implodes

[humble fog]

Plenty of things drop souls that are alive

[forest knot]

In terraria tho, it’s mostly undead related enemies no?

[humble fog]

Everything in hallow

Wyverns

[forest knot]

Polterplasm tho

[stark basalt]

who is draedon and can he beat goku

[buoyant inlet]

He can't

[viral dagger]

[spring helm]

Robot scientist

[wheat walrus]

Draedon is a robot scientist

his ass is getting erased by goku tho

[spring helm]

Better question would be

Kid goku post-master Roshi training vs Draedon

[fierce pagoda]

Dreadon could probably trap him or something, Kid Goku is dumb

[spring helm]

So the goku who fought in his first tenkaichi budokai

[spring helm]

I doubt Draedon would do that though

He would want goku at his best to get good data

[fierce pagoda]

I mean he'd have no other option, would he?

he'd betray him and trap him in the hyperbolic time chamber for a thousand years

[spring helm]

What if Calamitas was betrayed and trapped in the Distortion for 1000 years?

[zealous pier]

she would probably not be happy ngl

[wheat walrus]

lmao

[spring helm]

Omni I drew Draedon

Wanna see?

[tropic oak]

hello lorians

[wheat walrus]

saw it already

[spring helm]

hello cool lore doc writer

[brazen moth]

i wanna see

[tropic oak]

what're we up 2 today

[spring helm]

draero

[tropic oak]

what the fuck

[brazen moth]

draedon v goku

[spring helm]

and of course

[spring helm]

fall within my calculoro

[wheat walrus]

wtf!!!

[wheat walrus]

goku solos

[spring helm]

this is his true body

[brazen moth]

yeah i know

[spring helm]

omni

[brazen moth]

i was just saying for the person who just got in

[spring helm]

21st budokai tenkaichi goku vs draedon?

[wheat walrus]

idk was it before Roshi ended the moon's career or nah cause I forogororoogrogororgorgogorr

I remember watching Dragon Ball as a kid

but like

I can't remember allat

[wheat walrus]

(the og one I mean)

[spring helm]

this is when master roshi did the moon busting feat

goku turned oozaru during the match

[wheat walrus]

I guess Goku lol

[spring helm]

goku lost this fight though

[wheat walrus]

then it's debatable

[spring helm]

i'll make a modification, no oozaru form for goku. because that would win undeniably

i think even start of series goku's oozaru would beat the exo mechs

[hollow nexus]

It took me a bit to realize, but the dates given by Draedon in his Communicate dialogue are Deific Era dates, aren't they?

[brisk frigate]

not all

the later dates (mainly the ones past like 1781) aren't in the deific era due to being when the crusades happened

[hollow nexus]

Oh, I see...

[lapis ingot]

so... calamity takes place in the 1800s..........

[lapis ingot]

i see....

ill think of a joke i can make about this eventually

[fierce pagoda]

Do you think Yharims Auric armor also consists of other materials like tarragon, Bloodflare and cosmolite and such?

[hollow nexus]

Wow, okay... I assumed the Deific Era was the in-universe equivalent to Anno Domini, but it looks like I'm wrong.

[brazen moth]

pretty sure in canon auric armour isn’t made of other armours, seeing as the recipe is gonna be changed

[fierce pagoda]

oh

[brazen moth]

yeah i assumed that too for a while

[fierce pagoda]

wonder what its gonne get changed to

[brazen moth]

the year 0 is the founding of azafure

[hollow nexus]

I mean, that also works lol

[lapis ingot]

(Points at Yharim's 80+ year old ass) GRANDPA

[stark basalt]

Azafure is cool

Yharim is like 130😭😭😭

[lapis ingot]

Ha old

[brazen moth]

also calamitas is like

28

i just thought that was fun

[lapis ingot]

She should've been at the club

[fierce pagoda]

damn shes old

[dry scaffold]

thx I am only 8 years younger then her

[fierce pagoda]

me too

were old bro

soon we'll have back problems and grey hair

[dry scaffold]

I already got the former but that is due to other reasons

still I feel old

wonder why

[fierce pagoda]

at least we made it to 200

20* damn

[dry scaffold]

it is all down hil from... actually no for me it never went uphill

for most others I'd say past puberty is where it starts going down hill

[fierce pagoda]

Stop being so down, look at your name, be more hopeful!

[tropic oak]

we are not that old

[dry scaffold]

this title is better

[dry scaffold]

also pls tell me your not starting the same thing Neko did

[tropic oak]

Who are you

We r not old

[fierce pagoda]

hah i like the new name, tomorrow is another day indeed, another day to cherish

what did Neko start

[novel tulip]

Wawa

[dry scaffold]

he was the first here to use we as a pronoun

[dry scaffold]

Also HA you misspelled "slog through"

[stark basalt]

Im surrounded by old people

(I’m going to be 20 in less than 2 months)

[fierce pagoda]

you got one year left bro

how is using "We" starting something

[dry scaffold]

I'd say it gets better but lying isn't good

[dry scaffold]

it gets confusing after awhile but I digress

it isn't important enough to fight over

[fierce pagoda]

We agree

[stark basalt]

So do we

Lore reason for why master death is so difficult?

[cosmic zenith]

Expert Revengeance is the intended experience and the canon difficulty

[dry scaffold]

oh good so I beat it right

[brazen moth]

what about journey

(i’m kidding)

[stark basalt]

Journey is actually kind of fun. Ngl

[brazen moth]

i only use journey if i want a fast game just for the dupe and enemy spawn controller

it’s nice to be able to spawn 10x enemies

[stark basalt]

Yeah, it’s nice to have inf resources. If I wanna build a lot that is

[brazen moth]

yeah

you can already dupe without journey mode but it’s just more tedious

[stark basalt]

Lore reason for dupes existing?

[zealous pier]

draedon gamemode

[spring helm]

As their revival on the Aerie was a commonly accepted fact even at the start of recorded history, the sky island must be at least 2,000 years old
So written language was invented 2000 years before the story.
While the Crusade is widely considered to have begun on the date of 6.19.1781 with Yharon's rebirth, I took no part in it until 4.23.1803.
We know that the calendar is based on Azafure's founding.
Which means that written history was invented before the founding of what was supposedly the first city.

just something i found interesting

[viral dagger]

why writing specifically?

history can be recorded through oral history

[spring helm]

In real history, writing (and its earlier precursors) was invented as a method to keep track of goods. This comes about as a necessity when civilisations start to form, as large groups of people require more complex methods of record keeping.

[earnest flare]

oral history is like a game of telephone

it gets warped over time

... which is why writing is great

[viral dagger]

Fair enough for the sake of needing semi specific dates, just something to think about

[spring helm]

Writing then can be seen as a natural consequence of development of complex societies.

Thus, one can conclude that Azafure was in fact not the first city, as an earlier civilization, or perhaps the same civilization that eventually gave rise to the city, existed before Azafure's founding.

Unless of course, the recorded history that Draedon mentions is oral history.

[stark basalt]

Azafure being the first major civilization makes sense

[viral dagger]

i thought yharim and such were centuries old, kind of wierd to think everything with the crusade happened in the last 100-odd years

[viral dagger]

Azafure might not have been the first civilization, but its certainly the oldest still recently inhabited

[spring helm]

Technology developed extremely quick in Calamity compared to our world. Draedon's creator was able to create a synthetic brain, and either uploaded their consciousness or created a new artificial intelligence for it.

Given that Draedon is about 660 years old and that history is about 2000 years old by the start of the game, this means that it only took around 1360 years for someone to be far surpass us.

[viral dagger]

from what ive seen, not much technology other than roughly steampunk-victorian levels of industries happened until draedon

[spring helm]

Which makes me wonder how long it took for humanity (and other sentient lifeforms) in Calamity took to move from the Paleolithic Era to agricultural civilizations.

[viral dagger]

guess Azafure just had really good production bonus tiles

[spring helm]

If they ever had to start from there at all.

[viral dagger]

magic is a pretty easy thing in calamity as far as we know, they may have done all of that in the first few generations of sentience

[spring helm]

Perhaps the presence of Auric Dragons and magic jump started development and sentient lifeforms simply began their existances almost fully formed.

[civic salmon]

Depending on when the Elementals came about they may also have played a role

[spring helm]

of course

Especially Silva, in my eyes.

Productivity and food availability have been 2 major limiters on progress. With magic and a literal elemental of life who appears to favour intelligent life, given how she made Braelor her champion, civilization would have had ample resources to expand and develop.

They might have even been able to speedrun their way into the industrial revolution in terms of productivity and population.

[earnest flare]

hey guys!
i have insightful information that will change this conversation

something something
world soul

[spring helm]

Right!

The world itself being alive and influencing life.

It's hard for me to speculate about this one since there is so little information about the world soul.

[earnest flare]

i dont know shit about the world soul but if you throw headcanons at the wall one might stick

[spring helm]

Well we do know that Auric Souls derived their power from it after it shattered.

This implies that the abilities Auric Souls had originated from the World Soul.

[earnest flare]

yeah, like life

[spring helm]

Like life!!!!

Very interesting indeed.

There was a Dragon of Life and Dragon of Death.

So life and death were domains of the World Soul.

So this begs the question, did life spontaneously come about like in our world or did the World Soul bring it to be?

[earnest flare]

yeah i dont think that question will ever be answered

the only source that COULD POSSIBLY know that is the bestiary

and well
we already got that

[spring helm]

We know microorganisms exist in Calamity, explicitly stated with Draedon.

Regardless. There is a unique allure to setting loose a synthesized mimicry of prokaryotic life. It continues to evolve incomprehensibly rapidly, even as we speak, providing endless opportunities for analysis.

So from this, we know that prokaryotic life exists and evolves.

I'm running out of brain power to be honest, it's been a while since I've had to think this much.

[earnest flare]

dont worry i got this

[civic salmon]

Maybe life just evolves really fast in Terraria

[earnest flare]

the elements required for life are:
carbon - it exists in the form of diamonds
hydrogen - there's water
oxygen - there's water (and air)
phosphorus - none to be found
sulfur - we got brimstone

[spring helm]

And of course, it's fairly obvious why.
With the existence of magic and souls, all sorts of mutations are bound to occur and be able to thrive.

[earnest flare]

so like

phosphorus is the only thing that could prevent life from coming about naturally it seems

[civic salmon]

We don't know that there's no phosphorus, we just know that we don't acquire it

[earnest flare]

if any of yall can find any

then yes, life could've evolved naturally

[spring helm]

there's also nitrogen

[civic salmon]

Some kinds of molotov cocktail use phosphorus

[earnest flare]

im not worried about nitrogen lmao

the atmosphere is mostly nitrogen so yeah

[civic salmon]

But I think this is a goofy question because either 1. Life in Terraria has phosphorus in it, in which case we can safely assume that there is phosphorus around or 2. Life in Terraria doesn't have phosphorus, in which case we don't need to worry

[earnest flare]

Life in Terraria has phosphorus in it, in which case we can safely assume that there is phosphorus around
the whole point of this discussion is to figure out if the world soul was needed to create life, if it needed to intervene by creating phosphorous, then sure

[civic salmon]

Either the World Soul originated life or it didn't, I don't think an analysis of materials will answer that

[earnest flare]

an analysis of materials will answer if life could've evolved naturally

... and if life didnt evolve naturally
then yeah we have a place to look to

[civic salmon]

But Terraria is a fantastical world with magic, maybe life did naturally evolve there but without phosphorus. But it may be that life in Terraria doesn't have phosphorus in it but the World Soul still created it. All four squares in that table are possible, so it doesnt' tell us anything

[earnest flare]

i mean theres also the slight offchance that all life in terraria has migrated from the distortion since that place is older

[real silo]

if phosphorus wasn't there before and the world soul added it in a patch, how would we even know that there wasn't any phosphorus around

[earnest flare]

but that's dumb

[civic salmon]

In this scenario we'd only know if we were somehow to learn that specifically only matter that has never had prior exposure to organic life (e.g. really deep buried stone) lacks phosphorus. I don't think we're going to get such a specific piece of lore.

[earnest flare]

we'd never lmao

from a storytelling standpoint theres no reason to answer it because
a. no character remembers there being no life on the planet
b. who cares

[civic salmon]

You're the one who asked!

[earnest flare]

sir this is lore discussion

anything goes

if its unanswered, its a question

[civic salmon]

Which means I am allowed to overanalyze your overanalysis of the presence of phosphorus in Calamity Terraria 😇

[spring helm]

Regardless of the origins of life, evolution in my eyes must have been influenced by the presence of mana. Mana exists almost everywhere in Calamity, from the far reaches of space to the souls of living beings.

[civic salmon]

Ah shit that brings up a good point, souls

[earnest flare]

mana is not stored in the soul, infact

[civic salmon]

The bane of metaphysicians everywhere

[earnest flare]

mana is stored in the bones

[spring helm]

Here's another thing about souls, they linger.

[earnest flare]

this is canon

[spring helm]

When we kill certain beings, they leave behind souls.

[civic salmon]

and since mana ISN'T stored in the soul we can't just say that the soul is the mind + extra magic (which is how some settings handle souls)

damn it, that complicated things

[spring helm]

From Skeletron Prime, we know that souls can harbour emotions.

And knowing that even non-sentient life can leave behind souls, how would that effect ecosystems and their development.

Imagine being some sort of predator animal, and you kill and eat prey. What if the prey you ate left behind it's soul, and its anger at being killed caused it to become a ghost or polterghast?
How would this affect predator and prey relationships?

[dusty saffron]

well you probably mess with the souls when you eat the animal

[zealous pier]

hm yes life's biggest worry in the 2 dimensional game about giant flying eye balls and wizards is the presence of phosphorus because realistically life cannot survive without it

[earnest flare]

see!

being logical in a fantasy game is fun

[zealous pier]

theres a difference between being logical and attempting to bring fact into fiction

[earnest flare]

well then i dont see the difference

[spring helm]

So what does that mean? Have predator animals instinctively learned to also devour the souls of their prey, or does the act of being consumed placate the souls of the eaten, as they have completed the cycle of life and death naturally.

[zealous pier]

logic is the ability to conduct reasoning

stating that life requires phosphorus to evolve is not logic, it is quoting a scientific fact

[earnest flare]

umm ok

[zealous pier]

what i am saying is that it is illogical to attempt the use scientific fact to describe non-scientific fiction

it's fiction, literally nothing is impossible

[dusty saffron]

and sapient species probably arent smart enough to combine with others

[sleek halo]

I’d say it’s fair to say

mana is also stored

in your soul

[zealous pier]

it is unreasonable and frankly imbecilic to conclude that life could not have evolved in terraria because there is no phosphorus in the game

[sleek halo]

but bones would be the biggest deposits of it

[earnest flare]

mana is stored in the bones, its literally canon

[zealous pier]

it is not bound by logic

[sleek halo]

I’d imagine mana flows through you

[dusty saffron]

theres also probably pieces of phosphorus in like natural stuff

[sleek halo]

just in general

but the big reserves and such

are stored in your bones

[zealous pier]

if mana was the name of my grandma's recipe for lasagna then i've got lots of mana flowing through me right now 😋

[sleek halo]

so true

[sleek halo]

yes ik

i was there when reb said it

but just cause it’s stored in bones doesn’t make it exclusive to bones

your soul having mana would make perfect sense

maybe not as much

but at least some

[sinful adder]

It doesn't make sense for mana to be exclusively in bones

Bones just have a lot of mana in them

[sleek halo]

I view it as

they’re the largest

deposits of it

in your bodu

but overall, especially in mages like scal

[solar wharf]

is that just for humans or?

[sleek halo]

it flows through you as well

[zealous pier]

mana is calcium

[sleek halo]

not known yet

we haven’t seen the permafrost dialogue fully

[solar wharf]

LMAO

DOES MILK INCREASE UR MANA OUTPUT

[spring helm]

Now there's an interesting conversation starter.

[solar wharf]

DAMN!!

[zealous pier]

yes

[sleek halo]

i imagine scals blood is just

brimstone

[zealous pier]

people who are lactose intolerant are just shitty mages

[sleek halo]

quite literally

[zealous pier]

she probably smells fucking awful then

[sleek halo]

[sleek halo]

I don’t imagine she smells

good

[zealous pier]

brimstone is a synonym for sulfur

[sleek halo]

she’s a depressed 20 something yr old who fucks with

necromancy

[zealous pier]

calamitas prolly smells like rotten eggs at all times

[zealous pier]

and corpses

[sleek halo]

yeah

that was implied

[real silo]

okay but you know what else bones need

[sleek halo]

lmao

[real silo]

Phosphorus

[zealous pier]

nope

[sleek halo]

i mean tbf

we don’t know the elemental chart

[zealous pier]

its magic

[sleek halo]

of calamity

[real silo]

you're magic

[sleek halo]

and I doubt we ever will sadly

ehich sucks

[solar wharf]

i mean idk if this is canon or not

[sleek halo]

cauxe i’m a big micro bio guy

[solar wharf]

but the player might not even be able to use magic

every time he tries to he needs a weapon to do that

compared to archmage or calamitas

they dont need todo that

[sleek halo]

maybe they’re just amplifiers for specific things

also iirc scal has her book

right

[sinful adder]

Phosphorus isn't an issue. There's obviously goddamn phosphorus in the world. It just isn't explicitly stated to exist

[solar wharf]

yeah but isnt it implied scal can just use it whenever?

[sinful adder]

Anyways, magic just works like that

[sleek halo]

i mean she also has

[sinful adder]

Books and crystals do magic

[solar wharf]

we are never seeing using it without it tho, but ig can argued to just be gameplay purposes

idk

[sleek halo]

seemingly near total control

[zealous pier]

the periodic table of calamity as far as i can tell is

brimstone
sand
earth
water
fire
cursed fire
shadow fire
frost fire
death
providence
light
primordial light
souls
phantom souls
the distortion
auric
lightning
red lightning
clouds
slime
etc.

notice how most things are just different colored other things

[solar wharf]

isnt auric just a combination of all of the above

[sleek halo]

man

auric and gold

[solar wharf]

because it takes powers from the very domain themselves

[zealous pier]

i think its getting reworked to not be

[sleek halo]

must fucking suck

to both exist

at the same time

for a periodic table

[zealous pier]

gold is aurum so its not too bad

[real silo]

gold vs cooler gold

[sleek halo]

yes but they’d both be shortened to likely

au

(that or they just shorten gold a different way)

[real silo]

Let's just assume people are actually sensible and named gold Go or something

[solar wharf]

would auric even be placed into a periodic table

its a supernatural material

[real silo]

Mfs always using latin

[solar wharf]

it isnt normal

[zealous pier]

no its a compound

[real silo]

It's not

[sleek halo]

it’s magical maybe dragon maybe not shit

[real silo]

It's only a compound because we needed it to be

Xeroc and yharim's auric is probably pure

[zealous pier]

their auric isnt "pure" in the sense that its homemade, its the same as ours but they can actually use it because xeroc has an auric soul and yharim is soul bonded with yharon

we force auric to work for us with yharon's soul fragments so its weaker

[solar wharf]

xeroc can use it the same reason why yharim can

he has no auric soul

he was attuned to zeratros

[zealous pier]

um no

[spring helm]

Mana is calcium. What would this mean for life? Calcium is involved in a lot of biological processes, the two major ones being structural support in the form of bones and as a cell signalling molecule.
Replacing the element calcium with mana has interesting implications.
We know that mana can be found as a physical substance, or at least close to it as evident by stars. So it would be able to do all the things that calcium should, as long as it chemically reacts in the same way.
But if mana reacts chemically identically to calcium, what does that say about magic?
Using mana, magic can create almost any phenomena, from creating lightning to bringing back the dead (albeit imperfectly).

[zealous pier]

he absorbed zeratros' soul

zeratros is dead

dead as hell

[solar wharf]

yeah but gods soul arent auric soul

providence cant use auric

no gods can

only attunement mortals can

[zealous pier]

then xeroc cant use auric

[solar wharf]

yea

[zealous pier]

🤦‍♂️

[solar wharf]

but he was able to use it back then

as a mortal

because he was attuned to zeratros

[zealous pier]

well now zeratros is dead so idk what this is leading up to

[solar wharf]

if gods were able to use pure auric then yharim wouldnt have won lmao

exactly

[zealous pier]

[solar wharf]

he cant use it anymore now

[zealous pier]

we've established this

[solar wharf]

?

[spring helm]

But if mana is able to do all of that with magic, then why is it seemingly limited in scope within living bodies? Unless of course it's not.
If mana has the all important role of calcium in living beings, who's to say it does not have other effects?

[solar wharf]

does mana even have a physical form or?

[spring helm]

stars

[zealous pier]

mana is not limited, the people who use it are

[solar wharf]

arent those just really condensed mana

im talking about just like a specific amount of mana

would it have a physical form?

[spring helm]

i am theorizing based on the assumption that mana is calcium, as per my previous message

[zealous pier]

magic is a limitless source of energy but the amount you can tap into varies depending on the being

[spring helm]

here

[zealous pier]

mana replaces calcium, it is not the exact same

[spring helm]

And the biological implications of such.

[zealous pier]

mana does everything every element does

but when left on its own naturally it behaves in the same way as calcium

it is in our bones as calcium because we dont use it all the time

when we use mana we use our calcium

thats why we will get weak and flimsy if we use too much

[solar wharf]

would that imply mages cant be melee classes after

[zealous pier]

and we get mana sickness that makes us do less magic damage from drinking mana potions because its harder to process so much calcium so fast

its why people can get lactose intolerant over time from drinking too much milk

[solar wharf]

oh wait that would also imply melee/ranger would have a shitton of mana for stronger bones to actually support bigger muscles and is just in general more durable no?

[zealous pier]

maybe calamitas' parents just used the wrong formula

she's just bleeding mana all the time

thats why her hair white

and her skin grey

its full of milk

[real silo]

I'm saying theirs only has auric with no other elements mixed in while ours has some yharon souls mixed in

[solar wharf]

DAMN

[spring helm]

That's a fun thought. Perhaps that is what life crystals and other max hp increasing items do.

Put more mana into your bones

[zealous pier]

life crystals are legit stem cells as rock candy

[zealous pier]

thats why your bones make stem cells

[solar wharf]

what do you even do

do you eat mana stars?

i mean if its calcium

that would make sense

[zealous pier]

just like mana can do anything stem cells can do anything

[zealous pier]

you inject them into your bones

thats why they are sharp and pointy

to pierce the bones easier

[solar wharf]

why does the player have that technology in the early game...

oh u mean just

[zealous pier]

because they are made of stars

[solar wharf]

do it the primitive way

[zealous pier]

yeah

[solar wharf]

JUST INJECT IT IN

DAMN

[zealous pier]

just get fucked up on the mana roids

[spring helm]

That's all from me lore chat

[zealous pier]

good night pobcron

[solar wharf]

GN!!

[forest knot]

How would a calamity blood orange taste I wonder

[turbid wind]

Says it has a sweet flavor

and a strong aroma

[zealous pier]

we should

discuss lore

[solar wharf]

we really should

[stark basalt]

Gta lore

[real glen]

lore

[stark basalt]

Helldivers lore

What even is helldivers lore

[calm patio]

democracy

[real glen]

Auric toilet

[humble fog]

America

[zealous pier]

interplanetary USA

[stark basalt]

Nooo like why did robot guys come and why did bug guys come

[zealous pier]

bugs under the rock

bugs under the rock when you lift it up

bugs when you lift up the rock

the rock when you bugs lift

the lift when bugs rock

bugs the lift

bugs under the rock

[real glen]

Auric skibidi toilet

[calm patio]

n o

[pliant ruin]

Why is providence a element thays so funny

[cloud ibex]

as should be expected

[zealous pier]

i live here

[cloud ibex]

unfortunate

[zealous pier]

ham

[cloud ibex]

that's me

[mighty zenith]

🍋

[zealous pier]

hammy

[cloud ibex]

[buoyant inlet]

What an unfortunate development

[frozen stag]

what will happen if draedon put exo prisms in himself

[zealous pier]

he already do

[frozen stag]

???

He only say his brain inspired exi

*exo

[real silo]

you need exo prisms to power exo computers

if his body has exo computers then he definitely already has exo prisms in him

[sinful adder]

It would be unreasonable to expect him to not have already used exo prisms to power himself

[novel tulip]

icl draedon in a similar style to the exo mechs with black metal and exo prisms would look sick

[scenic olive]

Maybe he used a better exo prism

[novel tulip]

I wanna draw this now but im not good enough to do it well

😭

[untold bluff]

From reading the decoder communication lines, I guess draedon isn't that bad

At least now

He literally said he could fix all of his mistakes with the push of a button if it gets too bad

[hushed geyser]

But

He didn't

And doesn't

Actions speak louder than words

[untold bluff]

I'm pretty sure draedon wouldn't tell lies

[hushed geyser]

Why wouldn't he

Benefits him = good

[cloud ibex]

I mean he could be telling the truth for all we know

[hushed geyser]

We're talking about the guy who destroyed the jungle basically

[cloud ibex]

Doesn’t change that he’s choosing to not fix things when he could

[hushed geyser]

While working for yharim

Or with

He probably lied to yharim to do that

[untold bluff]

He said that he would fix it if it started destroying biodiversity in the jungle

[cloud ibex]

The plague? Considering how he talked about Yharim’s reaction I feel like he didn’t lie necessarily

[hushed geyser]

Technically

[untold bluff]

It's not like any jungle creatures in game went extinct

[hushed geyser]

It improved it

[cloud ibex]

He just never fully explained what it is because he didn’t think Yharim would care

[hushed geyser]

So he told a white lie essentially

[trim edge]

draedon doesn't consider the plague a problem yet
jungle creatures are being infected but none are going extinct so he doesn't see it as destruction

[cloud ibex]

I guess unintentionally

[hushed geyser]

Still the point was he doesn't fix everything

Even though it's pretty shitty

Didn't mr dron do the sulphuric sea too or am I dumb

[haughty ingot]

Gameplay

[trim edge]

sulphurous sea was caused by azafure but draedon made it worse

[hushed geyser]

Draedon is big corporations real

Dumping nuclear water into the ocean

[trim edge]

doctor aedon

[cloud ibex]

MC Yung Drae

[hushed geyser]

Draek

Do yall think draedon would be a rapper or producer

[cloud ibex]

He already is a rapper

@solemn needle observe

[hushed geyser]

He could probably do both

Damn

Epic rap battles of history

Draedon

Versus

Jeff Bezos

[untold bluff]

Draedon would literally run thousands of calculations to make the perfect line

[haughty ingot]

Would Draedon treat his employees better than Jeff Bezos

[hushed geyser]

No

He'd run it like a Chinese factory

[untold bluff]

I wonder if that draedon hologram's dialogue will be rewritten

The one found just chilling in labs

A lot of it is years old

[buoyant inlet]

It depends

[hushed geyser]

Draetalk 1.0

Compared to draetalk 2.0

[buoyant inlet]

I imagine that workers that are treated better would be more productive

[hushed geyser]

Or

[haughty ingot]

I actually have not looked at draetalk 2 yet

[buoyant inlet]

So he might treat them well for the sake of productivity

[hushed geyser]

Replace them when they aren't

[untold bluff]

Yeah I'd expect more from a draedon hologram thing than just saying stuff over and over again

[hushed geyser]

Draedon would literally run a company into the ground for the funny

[untold bluff]

Maybe when you go inside the lab he just looks at you like 😐

At first he's like what are you doing here intruder

[haughty ingot]

I mean, it's a series of recordings

[hushed geyser]

[buoyant inlet]

I mean they are brilliant scientists, he kinda does need their knowledge

[hushed geyser]

"Getchyo bitch ass outta here"

[hushed geyser]

Upload them to the cloud

[untold bluff]

What if the labs that you aren't supposed to go to yet have security that prevents you from entering

[hushed geyser]

Rod

[untold bluff]

Like MoR lab

They kill you if you enter

[trim edge]

draedon has far more knowledge but he still needs competent workers in his labs

[hushed geyser]

Draedon snipes you with pulse rifle if you enter

[haughty ingot]

Doesn't calamity encourage sequence breaking though?

This is pretty minor anyway

[buoyant inlet]

Well he did gain his knowledge through research, and I imagine those scientists helped him with that

[hushed geyser]

Yeah but at some point he doesn't need them

Uneeded stuff isn't necessary

Can't waste resources

[buoyant inlet]

Well yeah it's obvious

[hushed geyser]

Draedon doesn't have petty things like emotions (other than disappointment probably)

[buoyant inlet]

I imagine after this point those scientists would just leave and do their own thing

[trim edge]

do any lore items stop making sense if you sequence break
other than the obvious queen slime one

[haughty ingot]

Not that I can think of?

Nothing that you can sequence break anyway

[trim edge]

yeah

[mighty zenith]

maybe pbg if you skip mechs

you'd just go "who the fuck is draedon"

[buoyant inlet]

its very hard to skip mechs tho

[mighty zenith]

true

[buoyant inlet]

ligma balls

[mighty zenith]

💥

[trim edge]

do the sentinels' lore items make you go "who the fuck is dog"

[mighty zenith]

:3

[pliant ruin]

i never noticed how the chaos stone, dropped by the calamitas clone, is probably meant to reference how calamitas's magic affects her with its effect

that's pretty cool and also kind of fucked like damn this implies her magic literally physically hurts her brain

[solar wharf]

damn

[broken lion]

i...precieve is as mage is a class for masochist, you have to trade health for damage

[leaden bridge]

Hi lore chat is our birthday canon in calamity

[mighty zenith]

no because i stole your birthday :3

[languid badge]

Only if your birthday is also calamities birthday

[solar wharf]

DAMN

[leaden bridge]

No it's today

Calamity's birthday sucks

[solar wharf]

oh

damn

[thorny yew]

happy bday

[leaden bridge]

May it lead to the slaughter of the forces of the devil

[pliant ruin]

happy birthday have a habmurger

🍔

[buoyant inlet]

Cheese did you sacrifice one of your kind to that hamburger,.........

[pliant ruin]

i did but it was a evil cheese so its ok

[mighty zenith]

how do you know it was evil cheese
thats very yharim of you to assume like that

[leaden bridge]

Evil cheese tends to proclaim itself as evil

That's how you know

[pliant ruin]

evil cheese eats babies

[leaden bridge]

Also that

[scenic olive]

Does eating babies makes you evil

[sleek halo]

but what if they were evil babies

[scenic olive]

i could eat a baby

carrot

[mighty zenith]

not convinced yet

[pliant ruin]

evil cheese hates fish

[mighty zenith]

damn

[leaden bridge]

Evil cheese hates aureus

[sleek halo]

well don’t fish fear u…

[scenic olive]

so hungry i could eat a horse

[pliant ruin]

they fear me but i love them theyre so cool

fish fear me i love fish women scare me

[mighty zenith]

deserved tbh

[leaden bridge]

Yeah

[sleek halo]

women are terrifying creatures

[mighty zenith]

fish fear me women fear me fish women love me

[sleek halo]

TRUE

[scenic olive]

fish women

Anahita

[mighty zenith]

[sleek halo]

[pliant ruin]

anahita isnt a fish woman

shes a water woman

[cloud ibex]

Fish fear me, women fear me, men turn their eyes away from my gaze, as I walk no beast dares make a sound in my presence, I am alone on this barren earth

[sleek halo]

Booo

[mighty zenith]

throw me to the wolves
and i'll get mauled to death

[sleek halo]

I throw tomatoes at you

Real

[cloud ibex]

I throw pipe bombs at you

[sleek halo]

i can only imagine that one miku animation

[scenic olive]

throw me-at to the wolves

and they will be full

[sleek halo]

I have so much cheese for them

[scenic olive]

dont feed cheese to the wolf wyd

[sleek halo]

i will make friends with the wolves like crows do

[scenic olive]

[sleek halo]

sorry

but it must be done

[cloud ibex]

Fucked up

[scenic olive]

God of Dairies Is gonna punish you for your sins

[sleek halo]

Uhmm

[mighty zenith]

call me bait cause i cant believe this

[sleek halo]

I will acquire a mold

and throw it at him

and watch him rot

[scenic olive]

[sleek halo]

[cloud ibex]

Fool. You will only make blue cheese

[sleek halo]

true

[cloud ibex]

You have made him stronger

[scenic olive]

Omega Blue Cheese

[leaden bridge]

The god of dairies can't compare to portaelis, the Dragon of Doors, whose auric soul yharim managed to secure before it was absorbed

[sleek halo]

ik whqt will beat him

i’ll throw american “cheese” at him

:3

it’s like the anti cheese

because that shit is NOT cheese

[scenic olive]

Cheeseseus vs Portaelis

[leaden bridge]

Hey, we like that slop

It may not be cheese but it sure is tasty

[sleek halo]

I genuinely cannot stand it

i had not eaten for a day and a half and i still refused to eat a sandwich with it

[mighty zenith]

yharim when the dragon of choice puts him in a room with two doors and tells him that he walked through the right door

[sleek halo]

“fym the right door, this was the left one”

[scenic olive]

[leaden bridge]

Yharim would hate this

yharim would not survive in Stanley parable

[sleek halo]

I think he’d just run through everything

[scenic olive]

Can Yharim survive without food for a month

[sleek halo]

probably

I imagine his body processes are far slower than average

[leaden bridge]

well, but following the narrator is following Destiny, a predetermined outcome from him

[scenic olive]

bro ate his Auric armor for sustenance

[sleek halo]

He’d do anything to avoid it

[leaden bridge]

Then he's just fooling himself because the narrator adapts to what you're doing eventually even if you contrary him too much

It's why he'd hate it

[fair token]

So I have to wonder now, since the Kos bosses arent connected to dog, is that Music style/motif associated witht he distortion in general instead of DoG

[buoyant inlet]

Probably

[fierce pagoda]

are the lore items going to ge removeed and replaced by books at some point? i remember hearing that once

[buoyant inlet]

Not books

But they are planned to be reworked

[scenic yacht]

Not specifically books although that may be one way just replaced by proper story telling through the world and shit

[buoyant inlet]

Keeping yharim's pov but be more engaging in terms of gameplay

[fierce pagoda]

ok yeah that makes more sense

okay lore wise, what is the difference between regualr necroplasm and the ruinous soul

what makes ruinous soul more powerful than regular necropllasm?

[haughty ingot]

I guess it's just a bunch of necroplasm fused together, polterghast is an amalgam of a lot of spirits

[fierce pagoda]

So it has like condensed and turn into very dense soul energy

Also its tooltip "a shard of the distant past" what lore implications does that have

[haughty ingot]

Polterghast is made of souls from different time periods of Yharim's crusade, which lasted about 100 years if I'm remembering right.

[scarlet pecan]

morning everyone

[real silo]

erm it's ackhshually night time in certain timezones

[scarlet pecan]

so did i miss any interesting discussions yesterday?

[real silo]

phosphorus

[scarlet pecan]

wut

[real silo]

smth smth the other building blocks of life exist except phosphorus

it's funnier if I just say phosphorus though

[hoary cape]

What

[cosmic zenith]

That tooltip will probably be changed

It's a really weird thing to put on a Soul item

And it has been there since forever

[wheat walrus]

yharongus

amongus!

[scenic olive]

Yharuinous soul

[leaden bridge]

Detritus Soul

[molten thunder]

DoG is a worm ?

cuz like

[scenic olive]

Serpent

[molten thunder]

serpent isnt all about leviathan -ass mfs

bro

[buoyant inlet]

Wdym

Dog is being from another dimension, but it resembles a serpent

[molten thunder]

alr nevermind
its a language thing
serpernt can be translated in many ways and i cant decide which i should call him in the translation

is he like

a literal worm

or a literal serpent

the mythology guy

[buoyant inlet]

Serpent basically means a snake

[molten thunder]

i forgot to mention that word serpent can be translated only to like snake or wyrm

[buoyant inlet]

But again, dog is neither, he's being from another world

[molten thunder]

idk

its so hard

[buoyant inlet]

Iirc he does have a skeleton

So he can't be anything like worm

[molten thunder]

thats actually a great point u got here
but i dont think that near machanical body structure has or needs to resemble bones or skeleton

n all that

[graceful otter]

im pretty sure dog is meant to be more of a snake-like creature, considering all of his ties to the snake in the garden of eden

[molten thunder]

i mean that he can be both

but

[graceful otter]

theres a reason why this is a meme

[molten thunder]

I NEED ONE

[pliant ruin]

dog is actually a t

ok im not saying it this time

you get to live for now

[buoyant inlet]

He doesn't have mechanical body, it's just old sprite

[wheat walrus]

a TWINK

Doggone is a fucken TWINK!

RAAAH

[buoyant inlet]

In the resprite during phase 1 he will be armorless, showing his organic body

[molten thunder]

i dont think that i can get help from regular community members
only devs know

a real problem

[buoyant inlet]

And for phase 2 he equips armor made out of cosmolite

[pliant ruin]

Thats my line....

also yeah dog is getting a redesign

hes probably gonna look less freaky space worm more freaky space snake

[molten thunder]

ok i think he ll be snake-like variation

[pliant ruin]

also if he turns into a snake thats even more basis for him being a twink every character associated with snakes is a twink

ok i'll stop

[molten thunder]

ty

[buoyant inlet]

Good thing I have artistic powers to draw dog as not twink

[mighty zenith]

can you draw me as a twink

[buoyant inlet]

It's so good being an artist I can draw anything I want

[pliant ruin]

yours will not be a real dog

it will merely be a false messiah

[buoyant inlet]

Copium

[pliant ruin]

because real dog is a twink

[wheat walrus]

draw him as a big buff dude

[buoyant inlet]

Yes

[wheat walrus]

you already are

[mighty zenith]

dam

[buoyant inlet]

This is true

[lean crag]

Omg yes

[pliant ruin]

can you draw me as a Squid Games

[wheat walrus]

can you draw me with monster hunter armors

[lean crag]

I love buff men

character designs

[pliant ruin]

i also like them but unfortunately dog isn't a buff man he's a twink

[brisk frigate]

You only needed the first sentence zara

[buoyant inlet]

Dog is gargantuan he can't be a twink

[brisk frigate]

Look at your pfp

[lean crag]

I was going to get quoted 😔

[pliant ruin]

He's gargantuan because he's a giant space worm

[buoyant inlet]

Yes