suggestions-discussion

[gaunt tiger]

very hard

there's some glaring qol stuff in the current batch

with 150+ updoots

[crude geode]

250 for some

But the top 25% of all currently in voting will go to dev which is. still a lot.

[gaunt tiger]

but it's my hope that someone sees my suggestion and just does it anyway

or my cope, rather

[drowsy plank]

ive been holding all of my suggs until posting dies down

gonna be a while to get them all in at this rate

[crude geode]

A couple months most likely

[gaunt tiger]

blegh

I feel all restless about this suggestion :/
it seems sound to me but it'd be really awesome if a dev would give feedback on it before I sleep

[crude geode]

@hollow shell see above, in regards to the dog sugg

[gaunt tiger]

aaaaaaa

[small timber]

other than the nerf being a bit too specific (though that is the point of your approach: to make the nerf effortless) it should be fine

[gaunt tiger]

❤️

[frosty trellis]

I am now suddenly scared of DoG, since I'm gonna be doing Death Master DoG in the future, and these do not look promising

[gaunt tiger]

give me ur ⭐ 😛

[frosty trellis]

Well yeah

[small timber]

he just deals a lot of damage, thats it

[gaunt tiger]

^ this

[frosty trellis]

I always found death dog more predictable and easier than rev, but DoG did get changed, so things are very likely to change (Not to mention master mode is an entirely different beast)

So

[gaunt tiger]

otherwise it's actually very tense and fun to have the fight last longer

[frosty trellis]

Just don't get clipped by the head

Got it

[small timber]

(you can use this to see how bad it is)

[gaunt tiger]

the spiderweb pattern during the phase-out can actually be dodged straight down btw

this one

[small timber]

nah I am used to dodging top left or right

[gaunt tiger]

fair

[frosty trellis]

That kind of pattern I just tap flied a bit up and dashed to the right normally

[small timber]

I think the telegraph line overlaps so it is hard to see, but the top left or right tend to be empty

[frosty trellis]

In 1.3

[gaunt tiger]

stand still straight down felt more consistent for me, was just wondering tho

[frosty trellis]

Wait

The game tells you were DoG is gonna spawn for phase 2 now?

Hell yeah

[small timber]

the old one was emergency patched since DoG used to just refuse to spawn phase 2 I think

[hollow shell]

I still disagree with the prospect of balancing Master+[Calamity difficulties] out of principle

[small timber]

so probably the 'no telegraph' version might not be intended

[hollow shell]

But there's enough to the suggestion, and it's valid

[gaunt tiger]

thanks rover! I really appreciate you taking the time to read it

[frosty trellis]

DoG overall seems pretty much the same/similar to the DoG I know

So probably wont be too bad for me, but that's just me

[frosty trellis]

May I ask why?

[gaunt tiger]

slippery slope, too many difficulty modes, fab (and most of the terraria community) hate master

stat bloat etc etc

[frosty trellis]

Fair enough

[small timber]

(my opinion is still this)

[gaunt tiger]

eh

[frosty trellis]

I remember seeing one of the devs talk about Master + Calamity difficulties being more catered to veterans of the mod, and not for newcomers or anything, but I feel like making it not unreasonably difficulty or extremely painful is not a fun thing

[gaunt tiger]

^^

it doesn't need much tuning, but I can totally understand why the devs are so hesitant to tune for master

[frosty trellis]

Yeah

I'm currently post mechs, and the only issue I've seen so far is that my Astral Infection wont fking generate

And I'm on Master-Death, not Rev

[gaunt tiger]

skip aureus

[frosty trellis]

How about no

[gaunt tiger]

I'm not getting into that rn, but just
yeah
skip aureus

[frosty trellis]

I want my adren upgrade

[gaunt tiger]

too bad lol

[hollow shell]

Do Aureus at a higher tier, how about that

[gaunt tiger]

^^ that is what I meant

[small timber]

(or use steampunker)

[gaunt tiger]

I did aureus post providence lol

but the fact that I was able to skip it for so long means it's probably fine

[frosty trellis]

I'm just used to having level 2 adren until polter tbh

Also, steampunker can sell solution for the astral infection?

[hollow shell]

Yeah

[frosty trellis]

Oh

Sick

Time to spread that in some location I don't care about

[hollow shell]

Looks like it's just sold by her at any time

[frosty trellis]

No beacon though....

[hollow shell]

You can craft the beacon

[frosty trellis]

Thought you needed astral materials for that

[small timber]

you spread astral first then you craft the beacon

[hollow shell]

Yeah but, you can spread it prior to crafting it

[frosty trellis]

And you don't get astral ore until post dues

[hollow shell]

ye

[gaunt tiger]

gen the biome first to get the materials

[hollow shell]

It does not need Astral Bars

(does require Aureus kill tho)

[frosty trellis]

That's fine

Can just spread the infection and I will be good

[gaunt tiger]

[frosty trellis]

Was trying to find it to make the Biome Blade, then this came up lol

Aight, ty

[hollow shell]

@ashen warren Don't do that.

[hollow idol]

dark elixir will never be real in Calamity

[near blaze]

Huh

[hollow idol]

(someone posted a meme about making dark elixir in sug posting)

[grave zinc]

@small timber - Your suggestion has received an updated status!

[Have Sunken Sea Draedon Biome Lab Generate Inside/In the Middle of Sunken Sea (Instead of to the Edge/Side)]

It has been reviewed by the devs, and for one reason or another they decided it would be best not to implement it.
You can check out your suggestion again here: #suggestions-voting message

@small timber - Your suggestion has received an updated status!

[Make Yoyo Bag Have Reduced Secondary Yoyo Damage (Instead of Having Both Yoyo Reduced Damage)]

It has been voted upon, and the devs decided it would be a good idea to implement it. This doesn't guarantee implementation, as plans may change/alternate plans may be made, but it does highly improve chances!
You can check out your suggestion again here: #suggestions-voting message

@drowsy plank - Your suggestion has received an updated status!

[Hardmode Combination Mining Accessory and Combination Building Accessory]

It has been voted upon, and the devs decided it would be a good idea to implement it. This doesn't guarantee implementation, as plans may change/alternate plans may be made, but it does highly improve chances!
You can check out your suggestion again here: #suggestions-voting message

[frosty trellis]

Well that kinda stinks

[small timber]

I think probably conflicted with sunken sea rework is the main reason, or that they have to completely redesign the biome lab for that

[frosty trellis]

Probably

[ruby plover]

i mean, to be honest, thinking about it now, it would be more convenient for a lab to be built bordering on the edge of the biome so that you have a view into it, while also having an exit into a space that isnt occupied with water

[small timber]

depends tbh, thematically that will make more sense, just the basis of the suggestion was so it is more discoverable

(since currently sunken sea being super easily missable if you dont know its existence)

[ruby plover]

oh yeah, of course, i understand that part lmao

i have seen some sunken sea labs that are preeeeetty far away from the actual sea

[sand ermine]

@quaint bolt wait

just wait for calamity to add in whips

also wrong format and no reasoning

[hollow shell]

@icy saddle Too much specificity, not enough reasoning

[ruby plover]

newest one sounds like a SIS

[hollow shell]

Also there's no reason it needs to be RoR2 specifically

yeah

[neat linden]

definitly too specific
although i do believe wulfrum battery could use some changes, it's near useless for early game rn

[eternal escarp]

remove the tedtalk part, its just not related

[gilded scroll]

yeah that was more of a joke, but removed

[ruby plover]

it's kind to say thank you, blast.

use your manners.

[eternal escarp]

smh aster i dont need to say thank you its obvious...

[eternal escarp]

and yeah i get it but it mostly just ruins the suggestions motives when looked at

[ruby plover]

I didn't even see it lmao

[gilded scroll]

fair fair

[ruby plover]

eyes glazed over, didnt read the fine print

[eternal escarp]

sugg might be too specific too

try going less into details, or listing those things as ideas rather then the actual suggestion

[crude geode]

Isn’t the whole point of mantis claws that they swing so fast that they create an explosion

[ruby plover]

i think the methods of reworking it are a biiiit SIS, but the idea is good

also it wouldnt hurt to note that the explosion literally doesnt do any damage currently

[eternal escarp]

i mean even if it is
kinda cringe that its visual explosions

yea

[crude geode]

Different problem tbfh

[gilded scroll]

yeah but it just makes it look like Fetid clone #100

[ruby plover]

tho tbf i can see that thing being a deus shredder if it makes an actual explosion

[eternal escarp]

the real problem is that we shouldve put it in the deletion doc iirc imo trbh,...,.n..

[ruby plover]

also, it doesnt hurt to have like 1 or 2 weapons be a "clone"

a lot of weaps? guh. but like 1? sure

vilethorn and crystal vileshard are nice

[gilded scroll]

nettle burst-

[ruby plover]

oh i forgot about nettle burst, but who doesnt

yeppp

[gilded scroll]

welp, i guess im probably gonna simplify the sugg to someone like, i dunno, not making it too bland, or just removing it, because really
whos talking about Mantis Claws nowadays. if Mandible Claws got removed, im surprise Mantis survived

[golden tulip]

wth is a mantis claw

wrong game buddy

[ruby plover]

calamity should remove bladed gloves!!!

[drowsy plank]

lesgo

[drowsy plank]

vanilla should remove bladed gloves fr

worst sprite in the game and objectively shitty weapon

[eternal escarp]

[drowsy plank]

https://terraria.wiki.gg/wiki/Bladed_Glove

[drowsy plank]

@raven hare isnt the background during the scal fight black while her projectiles are a pinkish red?

[raven hare]

for me the sky turns roughly a similar colour to her projectiles, hence the difficulty with me seeing them

so now im in the process of laying down 24649 walls painted black

[small timber]

scal's background is super contrast to her projectiles, pitch black and bright red to be particular

[still zodiac]

well there's currently an issue with screen filters, which makes them disappear for some reason

[raven hare]

one sec

[small timber]

so if your background is something closer to red colour it is likely a bug

[still zodiac]

so that's probably why it's hard to see them

you could try fighting her underground

[still zodiac]

cause the background there is dark

also yes, it's an issue with tmod

[raven hare]

well cock

[still zodiac]

go try and fight her underground

[small timber]

ya that is definitely a bug

[fossil finch]

yeah her background is normally pitch black

[raven hare]

its pitch black for roughly 5 seconds after spawning her, then it changes to that colour

[fossil finch]

Yeah that's a bug

[raven hare]

delightful

[small timber]

for reference (while not super high resolution as I print screen it from an old video), this is how it is supposed to be

[raven hare]

still heck of a lot better than what im dealing with :/

[small timber]

ya, so the suggestion is probably like, invalid? and should go to bug report instead

[raven hare]

yeah ill delete it

[small timber]

but ya I assume this is true too

[still zodiac]

apparently it's funky with astral infection too

and I assume with any other boss filter as well

(can't test it rn though)

[fossil finch]

#suggestions-posting message you guys should tell him then

@novel belfry so that's a bug

[fossil finch]

Supreme Box already uses the lava one?

Literally saw this just yesterday

[worthy lintel]

yea it already uses it

i smell a case of not playing the latest version

[drowsy plank]

does it inherent the effects?

might be a bug where it says it does but doesnt or smthn idfk

[fossil finch]

Yes i imagine

Then the sugg should be about that instead of the recipe lmao lo

[drowsy plank]

@jade barn just change it to say it should inherent the effects of the lavaproof tackle bag, it already uses it

gonna test to see if he's right or not

[worthy lintel]

interesting

the tackle box does allow to fish in lava but its missing from description

[drowsy plank]

huh

amazing

[worthy lintel]

ill check if issue is already submitted in dev

[true gust]

should i do a suggestion about updating the photos of the musics on Soundcloud? they are kinda old.

[drowsy plank]

...we have the ost on soundcloud?

[true gust]

y e s

[drowsy plank]

yeah that sounds like a dm dokuro thing and i dont think he cares

[gaunt tiger]

what happened with dokuro

did he get a bunch of hatemail?

[drowsy plank]

people kept pressuring him when he was composing scal's theme + a bunch of other stuff

p sure he has a video on his yt talking about it

[swift wharf]

and he's no longer a part of calamity

[drowsy plank]

^

so the sugg would be useless

[true gust]

i guess i wont send it seems like a personal thing

[gaunt tiger]

it's a damn shame

[true gust]

yeah

[swift wharf]

anyways
it's music
...why does it need images

[gaunt tiger]

but CDM is doing great

[true gust]

seemed a little weird to me but i guess its not that big of a deal

[drowsy plank]

just listen to it on youtube or spotify or where ever else he put it up if you really care about the pics that much lmao

you can download the whole thing for free off bandcamp lmao

[true gust]

or mp3 converters

WHY DIDNT I THINK OF THAT

[drowsy plank]

i have the full album, the experimental one, and his cave story mixes all on my phone lmao

[true gust]

anyways i'll alt f4 this is turning into a general conversation

[swift wharf]

There's an app that downloads entire playlists on youtube

[true gust]

god im so dumb

anyways cya

[drowsy plank]

it's also FREE on his BANDCAMP lmao
and it'll have the right pictures you dont even need yttomp3

[swift wharf]

yea I'm just saying more options

[drowsy plank]

fair enough ig lol

[jade barn]

didn't see in game, that is on me. the wiki is not updated yet for the recipe so thought it still needed angler tackle bag not lavaproof tackle bag

[drowsy plank]

no the uh... the wiki definetly is

are you using fandom?

[jade barn]

yea

[drowsy plank]

wiki.gg

https://calamitymod.wiki.gg/wiki/Calamity_Mod_Wiki

[jade barn]

ty

[worthy lintel]

however it made you bring up an inconsistency with the item

🤝

[hollow shell]

whoops, that Boomstick suggestion shouldn't have gone through

Someone ping the author of that sugg, I can't see who it is cuz mobile

(also broomstick lmao)

@queen nova You should remove that bit about this being a follow-up to your previous suggestion
Suggs all stand on their own individually

[queen nova]

Oh ok thanks

[crude geode]

@queen nova Make it so the icon shows up in the bottom right of the weapon in your inventory/hotbar. There’s a precedent for that via vanilla with ranged weapons’ ammunition, while there is far less of one for buff icons outside of cooldown.

[hollow shell]

(That is a specification that I am not sure is needed)

[queen nova]

I feel like that would be less useful than for ranged weapons, since if you're making more than one summon at a time, I at least usually keep those out of my hotbar

[crude geode]

Fair

[queen nova]

The buff icons are always visible though, and are already a part of summoning

[violet pivot]

why the Flowers of Mortality uses 2 and a half minions if there isnt any weapon that use half a minion in that tier of weapons?

the only weapons I can think of are post Polterghast and providence

[hollow shell]

((If you summon 2 or 4 of the Flowers then you fill up that half))

[violet pivot]

I used to summon 4 but you cant summon 6 so or you loss 1 flower for another minion or have 5 and lost half minion

why not summon up to a max of 6 so you dont have that half minion problem?

or just 4 idunno

[fossil finch]

That's not a reason to rename the item but it'll happen anyway

[gray nebula]

yes it is?

iunno why it wouldn't

[crude geode]

Yeah

It creates confusion extremely easily

[drowsy plank]

@quick crag you should include elder berry as well

and dragon fruit

[eternal escarp]

those are all known

so lol

[swift wharf]

elden berry when

[icy saddle]

Huh my pre hard mode summoner suggestion is doing better than I expected

[violet pivot]

I love summons that go through walls

[icy saddle]

Same, it's just some good QoL stuff

[hollow shell]

Alright I'm back home

[hollow shell]

@hard marlin

Arms Dealer sells the Boomstick

[hollow shell]

I was unaware of this CV mechanic..?

[dawn moat]

yeah i dont see it on the cv wiki page

[icy saddle]

I also did not know about it

[hollow shell]

I have to assume this is unintentional

Binding the player to the floor is pretty punishing

[dawn moat]

thats what i thought

but i got a very matter of fact answer when i asked about how to deal with it

so i just assumed it was known

[icy saddle]

Most of the fight I'm flying or grappling so uh

Never noticed it?

Multiclass is not a good idea

[crude geode]

Multiclassing is something Cal actively works against

[icy saddle]

It would need some specific armor and stuff because the weapon would basically benefit from only one armor set or the other?

Plus there's already the neutral weapons the ones that scale with every damage type

Often applying debuffs and overall a good support tool to have

[proven vortex]

Prismatic breaker exists if you really want a multiclass weapon

[crude geode]

Prismatic Breaker

[proven vortex]

donor item moment

otherwise it would've been changed already

[drowsy plank]

@tropic sleet literally just removed a weapon effect like this last update with aether's whisper, no way they'd go with adding one back in

[inner anvil]

Tester here.
Wait, this was unintentional?

Bruh.

[crude geode]

@uneven field Zerg pot exists yknow

[gray nebula]

i mea

n

it sounds like a bug

lmfao

even if later it was said to be intended it feels so hard like a bug

[inner anvil]

This is a certified bruh moment then.

Lots of things make sense now.

[gray nebula]

probably not very hard to guess why either, the player velocity needs to be reset back to zero to get a jump back

[novel belfry]

that would be one weird ass mechanic

[gray nebula]

and if theyre constantly getting sucked in , even if they dont move or move agaisnt it, they wouldnt be able to have that ig

depending on where it happens in the update order

[violet pivot]

most of the bosses has a summon item why not for anahita as well?

maybe something like the perforators where the item is craftable after you defeat them

[novel belfry]

yeah

i'm still shocked that Anahita STILL doesn't have her summon item

sure, she's basically a guaranteed spawn if you just wait around in the ocean... but that's still waiting

[proven vortex]

correct me if im wrong but isn't this boss the only one that doesn't have one?

she's definetly an odd one out

[novel belfry]

yes

[proven vortex]

and zerg pots help but they get in the way since a bunch of enemies will screw you over at the start of the fight

[swift wharf]

idc if it's a sis who tf has difficulty dodging while invisible

[icy saddle]

I think it's like pretty useless ngl

[proven vortex]

you also don't become invisible during boss fights anyways

[icy saddle]

Tru

[crude geode]

@hollow shell SIS

[grim tusk]

@hollow shell #suggestions-posting message aint these ones not allowed? Also we got a SIS

[crude geode]

Which one you referring to (pisscord mobile)

[safe oasis]

if you mean storm, then the 2 by mr. sword

[gray nebula]

rouge

[safe oasis]

[grim tusk]

red

[proven vortex]

rouge slash? ||i know what this is about||

[tawny needle]

Im wondering if theres any demand for more sentry focused post moon lord armor classes

[drowsy plank]

i think so, hasnt there already been suggestions about sentry items or buffs?

[tawny needle]

Idk

[drowsy plank]

well search the suggestions

if you wanna make a sugg about it

[gaunt tiger]

sentries
are cringe

[grim tusk]

there used to be a lot but then whips

[violet pivot]

I did a suggestion about it so yes

[tawny needle]

bruh playing as a sentry summoner in vanilla is one of my favorite ways to play summoner

(ack sorry for the ping)

[small timber]

Will the multiclass suggestion really do anything other than just for the 'multiclass' gimmick? Since your gear generally only benefit 1 class, you will just end up having a weapon that is useless half the time (if it is automatic)

If it is manual (eg: left/right click like old aether whisper), I dont think classes except.summoner are exactly lacking weapon choice

[hollow shell]

The suggestion is indeed questionable
I was personally unsure what feedback to provide

[frozen hornet]

@vernal pike server suggestions have to be sent to mod mail

[fossil finch]

Mp hookups more like the twilight zone

The distortion world

The other side

[swift wharf]

Dante's inferno

[crude geode]

wouldn't this create the problem of more carpet

of creating 3 different channels for the same purpose

@hollow shell server sugg

[novel belfry]

maybe if there were more dual class armors, it might work

[small timber]

even if there is dual class armor I dont think it will work, because there is really no point to multiclass other than summoner or you just want to do it

because the main issue is still that you can only use 1 weapon type at a time, or in this case you just use a weapon that basically autoswap the damage type, which makes multiclass pointless

[drowsy plank]

@fallen cradle you suggestion is good but you need to format it correctly, read the pins

[fallen cradle]

mb

[unique vector]

@weary ledge

sinec the bot didnt send a notif, letting you know that this suggestion was changed to be denied instead of approved

mostly because upon actually discussing ways to implement it we could not find a way to do so that wouldn't be messy due to ore drop pool overlaps or it being functionally unintuitive for the player

[hollow shell]

(dev server version of the sugg ooo leaks)

[unique vector]

OH my god i leaked the reaction labels how carelessof me

😭

[gaunt tiger]

low effort
relatable

[hollow shell]

(Low Effort to implement, not as in it was written with low effort)

[unique vector]

[gaunt tiger]

it's still relatable

[vernal pike]

Okay thank you

[dawn moat]

so after hitting my head against the brick wall that is ceaseless void for a while, i think theres no way in hell that the ground stick mechanic isnt a bug of some sort, but im not really sure what that means for my suggestion

[thin hill]

Funny suggestion

This idea is brought to you by #calamity-mod-talk

[neat linden]

incredible suggestion

10/10

[thin hill]

I agree

[dawn moat]

i think im gonna leave it up because if the bug isnt or cant be patched i think having the game acknowledge it with a ui prompt would be good

[thin hill]

Add now

[small timber]

I actually thought the CV cant jump thing is intended since you have a black hole actively sucking you

and + cv's suck phase energies is turning clockwise anyway so you are mostly moving right or down, and even if you need to fly and run up of flight hook is still very effective

[dawn moat]

could be

honestly since im too lazy to build a big enough arena to do that, ive now adopted a strat that is just lure cv to do the suction way above or way below you, and then you have enough space to just stand or dash between the orbs

[small timber]

ya in a small arena you need to either lead it to the middle or to the side of the arena, depend on your dps

[dawn moat]

but i have no room to dodge the last orb phase lol

[eternal escarp]

@balmy adder thats not how you make suggestions
you need proper reasoning

[hollow shell]

^

[fossil finch]

oops! Iban forgot something

(Now he'll come and say why it doesn't have a relic

[small timber]

@nocturne hemlock suggestions cannot be that specific, specific item suggestion (SIS) is a dont

[nocturne hemlock]

ah ok

[small timber]

adult eidolon wyrm is intended as an optional superboss (to certain degree, you are not supposed to fight it), giving it relic kinda incentivize actually having to fight it especially for people who want full collection of relics

not sure how I feel about it

[crude geode]

Isn’t your trophy for doing it literally halibut cannon

[small timber]

(and while the suggestion did not specify, that looks like master mode stat which makes the fight way harder than it is supposed to be, considering it is not really balanced to begin with even on expert)

(and ya, the argument that relic is master mode only dont really work since cal bosses drop relics on expert rev)

[golden tulip]

aew relic

yes

[ruby plover]

I like the idea of there being an AEW relic, but at the same time I agree with xpc’s points

[golden tulip]

it incentivizes fighting it?

[ruby plover]

Yea

[golden tulip]

thats a dumb point

whats so bad about that

its not like mc's warden where you should do everything to not fight it

"noo dont fight this boss pls!!!! it has nothing!!!"

[ruby plover]

Well I mean I feel like it wouldn’t be bad to incentivise fighting it, unless you factor in the sheer amount of stats it has. I guess

Idk it weirdly doesn’t feel like much of a boss to me

Or a mini boss, or a super boss

[golden tulip]

its only temporarily a superboss iirc

[ruby plover]

Ah yeah right cos xeroc and noxus and junk

[golden tulip]

i just think its stupid to make a boss and then do everything in your power to get people to not fight it 😐

@true pagoda hammer the platforms

[true pagoda]

idk I just think it’d be nice to have clean falls through platforms a la smash bros

[golden tulip]

then hammer the platforms

[inner anvil]

We were already planning on making you fall without hitching without the need of hammering your platforms, but we'll see.

[golden tulip]

hammering the platforms works fine

albeit a long process

[inner anvil]

I know hammering platforms works fine, but we want to make it so you don't need to, because it shouldn't be like that.

[golden tulip]

k then

[inner anvil]

But we'll see when we do that.

[subtle sapphire]

Maybe special platforms that work like hammered ?

[inner anvil]

Why a special platform? Why not every?

And plus, I have no idea how you would be able to do that, but I'm not a coder myself. Shrug.

[subtle sapphire]

If someone wanted to keep current behavior idk. But honestly it's really not important

[echo cloud]

That doesn't change my point though

Queen slime is optional

Most bosses are optional

[golden tulip]

all of calamity's preml bosses are optional.

[echo cloud]

Exactly

[golden tulip]

idk people really dont like the idea of giving a superboss a relic ig

[echo cloud]

I know; but it's not like the game tells you it has a relic??

There's not some compendium of relics that you have to fill out

[golden tulip]

well like i said, its only temporarily a superboss

[echo cloud]

Really?

[golden tulip]

according to ozz

[echo cloud]

Huh

Yharim still exists for the final boss slot iirc, but yeah; probably retier if that happens

[echo cloud]

Maybe there will be no retier and it just becomes weaker in comparison to the likes of Yharim and the planned superbosses

Who knows

Either way, superbosses deserve relics

[golden tulip]

agreed for sure

[echo cloud]

Relics aren't a "boss thing", they're a badge

[golden tulip]

well actually aew doesnt have a trophy either. pepesad

[echo cloud]

Well yeah, or a mask; but those kinda are boss things

If we're running with the idea that superbosses are separate; that makes sense

[golden tulip]

why does this even exist

is it expected you kill aew before those

[echo cloud]

Literally everything about AEW feels placeholder besides the fight itself ngl

[golden tulip]

well it isnt finished

[echo cloud]

I didn't know that until you told me so

I just thought it was kinda... there

[golden tulip]

the reason it sucks is because it isnt finished

thats literally what i said

[fossil finch]

Its a global thing applied to all abyss enemies

It was never removed for aew

[golden tulip]

oh

lmao

[fossil finch]

Before aew did drop ectoplasm pre plant though

Hilarious low% skip

[frozen hornet]

there's the inanis AEW from a real long time ago but idk if that's ever gonna happen

[fossil finch]

It's probably not considering it was based off the cultist thing

Which now would be,

[frozen hornet]

What was the cultist thing gone'd

[frozen hornet]

The thing in question
https://orig00.deviantart.net/64b5/f/2018/156/5/1/eidolic_concept_by_00_inanis-dcdk9yj.png

[golden tulip]

yo epic

[fair stump]

that looks so sick

[spark pulsar]

Zenith fits perfectly where it is right now, making it only post moon lord would make it way too good

[hard hamlet]

I kinda agree, but I think it should be more nerfed and put in like the polter tier, cause pretty much any other weapon outclasses it at auric tier

[frail mantle]

no reason to rebalance it when it was found to be literally perfect in auric tier during testing

moving it any lower when it's already good where it is would be a waste of time

[hard hamlet]

I feel like the issue is that weapons like the ark of cosmos does like twice it’s damage

[eternal escarp]

^ to what Leon said above this, all the reasoning you provided are really just "i dont like it there"

which is highly subjective

[frail mantle]

counterpoint: ark actually takes skill to use

[golden tulip]

i dont really get where the constant "lazy" word calling comes from when talking about what happened to the zenith

its perfect at auric tier

[frail mantle]

zenith is much easier to use

[eternal escarp]

"they didnt bother completely rebalancing it even though it fits perfectly into a spot they are SOO lazy"

[golden tulip]

its just

convenient

[fossil finch]

Make armors materials *dies

[golden tulip]

which isnt the same

[eternal escarp]

so @north stone do you have any real reason that isnt just "i dont think it fits" and "its a lazy solution" because one is pretty much entirely subjective and the other is not very right tbh

[golden tulip]

also noone said anything about my sugg which is good? i suppose

[eternal escarp]

usually that means good yea

[fossil finch]

It would go down the drain quickly because armors are getting reworked anyway

No more 5 class helmets

No more

Freedom

[fair stump]

😢

[north stone]

wouldn't it make more sense for it to have later game items in its recipe if it's a nearly endgame sword?

[fossil finch]

No

[eternal escarp]

no

[north stone]

and how is just adding 5 auric bars to the recipe not lazy

[north stone]

why no

[eternal escarp]

its not lazy to retier Zenith to the progression point it perfectly fits in
its convenient

would you want to completely rebalance zenith?

also, just slapping more random swords doesnt mean its a good thing

you have Exoblade for that

[fossil finch]

Because
it's just a crafting recipe for a vanilla item who cares
It also opens up to the thing people may ask for the attack weapons to be changed to the new ones and they don't wanna do that

And who cares its "lazy"

This isn't a "lazy" vs "non lazy" thing

It's just a smarter solution to the zenith op problem than rebalancing it

Absolutely no one cares it's "lazy" because work should go to more important parts anyways

[golden tulip]

hell half of the things that got cut from the draedon update arent even in yet

[fossil finch]

Not really just exo armor is left i think

[golden tulip]

signus rework

[fossil finch]

Cosmic Discharge is fake and signus and guardians rework also are

[lucid fiber]

I thought the gem armor was the exo armor?

[golden tulip]

guardians rework (partially)

gem armor is dono armor

[eternal escarp]

no

[lucid fiber]

Oh

[eternal escarp]

yeah gem armor is just coincidentally from exo prisms

[lucid fiber]

I mean we got a storm weaver rework not the best tho

[golden tulip]

was demonshade already reworked?

[eternal escarp]

no iirc

[lucid fiber]

Nah, still the same afaik

[golden tulip]

so yea, half

[quaint kernel]

Lol every time my suggestions get like 30 votes

[golden tulip]

tbf it is a hard time for suggestions rn because everyones putting out like 20 thanks to the update

[quaint kernel]

?

20 thanks?

[golden tulip]

what

i just mean there have been a lot of suggestions recently

[fossil finch]

Not 20 thanks lmao

20 suggs thanks to the update

That's implied

That's how language works

I hate it too

[golden tulip]

fuck the blood moon

i just got another one and i just hopped on clash of clans while hiding on top of a living tree

[fossil finch]

Maybe get a good weapon

[quaint kernel]

Is that what theyre called?

Alright guess im just an idiot

[golden tulip]

either you dont understand it or i dont understand it but one of us is not on the same page

[drowsy plank]

@waxen cliff you need to format your suggestion correctly by including a reason that's seperate from the title

[waxen cliff]

Ok

[violet pivot]

Before I make a stupid suggestion again is the terraprism getting an upgrade post moonlord?

Like, in a later update?

[unborn oriole]

Not that i know

[golden tulip]

no plans afaik

[violet pivot]

isnt against the rules to ask for it right?

[drowsy plank]

an upgrade to the terraprisma?

[violet pivot]

ye

something like the zenith got this update

[drowsy plank]

what

the zenith doesnt have an upgrade

also yeah ig it's fine to sugg but even if it passes id doubt it'll get accepted, ur free to try tho

[violet pivot]

the zenith is now a post yharim weapon instead of post moonlord

[drowsy plank]

*yharon and that... isnt an upgrade. nothing was changed about it. they literally just added 5 auric bars to its recipe, im not sure what you're suggesting for an "upgrade" to terraprisma in relation to zenith considering zenith is literally unchanged from vanilla

[violet pivot]

wait the damege is still for the zenith?

[inner anvil]

The only thing we did for Zenith in Calamity is add 5 Auric Bars to the recipe, we didn't do anything else.

[night jolt]

Zenith got nerfed if anything

[night jolt]

@solemn solstice nobody wants to Spawn a boss on accident while just exploring or farming for a certain material

[solemn solstice]

Oh yeah now that i think about it that makes sense my bad I will delete it

[golden tulip]

isnt the mk2 new in 1.4

they havent properly done 1.4 balancing yet

[quick crag]

i mean a little hint for what to balance wont hurt

(yes it was added in 1.4)

[proven vortex]

also mini nukes are new in 1.4 and probably unbalanced things a little

ping a tester to get the weapon tested, read the pins

[golden tulip]

well my point is this wasnt an oversight or anything. they just havent gotten to it yet.

[distant gyro]

mini nukes buffing every existing rocket weapons by 10+ damage

[tropic sleet]

Before anyone tells me, i am indeed not very good with names

[proven vortex]

please read the doc in pins, you cant suggest specific items

[tropic sleet]

Got it

[icy saddle]

Is it only me that thinks hell doesn't need that many voodoo demons?

Like, it doesn't get harder because of them just annoying

[spark pulsar]

It’s there to make it easier to get them instead of waiting in hell 20 minutes for one to spawn

You can craft an item to disable them spawning if it’s an issue for you

[hollow shell]

@golden tulip Your Blood Moon suggestion should specify the difficulty you're referring to
Because Death Mode still blasts the spawn rates iirc

Also @north stone just a little rude

The reason why we tier-shifted it and didn't change its stats at all was because we wanted to not "nerf" Zenith
It was an intentional move cuz we know people like Zenith and how powerful it is

So we didn't change its power
Just changed when you get that power

Hardly laziness
Testers evaluate and adjust the stats of weapons all the time

[north stone]

oh

#suggestions-voting message

There's already a sword that counts as both melee and ranged

it benefits from both ranged and melee damage boosts

[fossil finch]

And it's worthless

[balmy adder]

Was mostly a meme request but also I don't know how you are meant to genuinely argue for a squirrel to follow you around without it being a joke.

[grim tusk]

@hollow shell SIS?

[hollow shell]

@proud plinth Way too much specificity with not enough of a reason why

[proud plinth]

k, then i got nothin

[hollow shell]

And as (I think?) you pointed out
We do have classless weapons already
Not ones that inflict every damage type, but rather no damage type

[proud plinth]

k, i was moreso talking about a weapon that consumed arrows and mana like magic and ranged classes but got bonuses from both ranged and magic proficiencies

like no matter what armour bonuses for a specific class you have, it will benefit from that bonus, like a non class specific weapon that uses all classes in one

[fossil finch]

Crying

[hollow shell]

@potent yacht You need a stronger reason than that, my guy

Explain why it would be cool, or useful, or thematically significant, etc

[potent yacht]

Instead of just a red tint the whole time, tints representing the phases of stained brutal calamity

Idk if thats a stronger reason

[hollow shell]

Yes you could mention the SBC video

You could mention the color changes adding some variety to a long fight

[fossil finch]

it makes no sense thematically more than referencing the video and the music box colors i guess?

Someone would be confused

[hollow shell]

True thank you for mentioning the music boxes

We reference the video with those already

so it wouldn't be particularly strange to add them to the fight too

[sleek turret]

uhh what's this for a suggestion?

Replace or change Ancient Fossil with Ancient Chisel in some way
Ancient Fossil is a pre-hardmode, easily crafteable accessory that increases mining speed by 15% while underground.
Chisel on the other hand it's an accessory that is found in Underground Desert chests, this one increases mining speed by 25% all times
In my opinion, I think Ancient Fossil should be replaced by Ancient Chisel, since they grant the most important part of their stats, the mining speed.
This would also include Chisel being on Archaic Powder.
Chisel's mining speed increase could be toned down by a bit since it's pretty much greater than Archaic Powder's one.

[hardy dock]

Powder is just a redundant accessory at this point yeah

[sleek turret]

yeah I think I'll post it

[small timber]

Mining speed do stack right? So you can just use both

[sleek turret]

I mean

Yeah

[ashen warren]

they should add this to the game https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/974033527412760636/993682896491642920/unknown.png

[sleek turret]

That doesn't stop Chisel being a better option until you craft Archaic which is still better than Chisel because of other cool and good stats

[small timber]

That doesnt make much sense?

[sleek turret]

It's still better than Fossil that's what I'm telling

[small timber]

Oh ok, fossil

Ya the suggestion do seem fine
Though tbh I just think Archaic Powder should just give bigger stat in general (namely mining speed), it is not exactly like having more mining speed will break the game

(and ya, the underground restriction on mining speed is really not necessary, other stats maybe)

[sleek turret]

I'm not saying it's going to break the game, it's just an inconsistency I think of

[small timber]

Oh sorry, the 2nd sentence was not referring to the suggestion, just archaic powder as an item

Isnt the world purifier suggestion abit out of the boundary of calamity? I can see a stronger purification option (like better clentaminator) but a one click world purifier doesnt seem like something calamity in particular will add normally

[gray nebula]

John ulfrum boss

[ashen warren]

what if we got some whips? :P

[spark pulsar]

Planned for future update(s)

[ashen warren]

that's cool :D

i'm a summoner alot of the time and i love the whips so it's cool to know that they'll add them :D

[golden tulip]

ah, right

[violet pivot]

isnt the sirius summon weapon a little too bad? literally does up to a max of 2000 dps with 16 minions

I did some testing and the sirius does almost the same damge with only one summon or 16

[small timber]

try it on bosses for more accurate result

[tawny needle]

That range tho

[night jolt]

I mean, why remove it when they could just make it another way to make the fish food?

[violet pivot]

I test it with polterghast and I was doing from 800 to 2000 dps

with all the minions

[night jolt]

In kill time?

[violet pivot]

wdym by kill time?

[proven vortex]

how long it takes to kill the boss

also you should be testing it against dog because that's what you'd use sirius for

[sick folio]

ik suggestions cant take extreme amount of time or require grand reworks

but is it okay to ask for new boss AI for certain bosses for multiplayer?

better boss multiplayer compatability

certain bosses like dog or most worm bosses aren't fun to play in multiplayer

[drowsy plank]

didnt we already have a sugg like that at some point

i mean nothing wrong with re-requesting but like i thought it was recent

[sick folio]

oh

something like that might require too much work so idk if im allowed to ask for something like that

ill try scrolling up a bit to see if i can find it

[drowsy plank]

just use the search bar lmao

[grave zinc]

@hardy dock - Your suggestion has received an updated status!

[Rename Victory Shards]

It has officially been implemented into the game, and will be available in the next update!
You can check out your suggestion again here: #suggestions-voting message

@unborn siren - Your suggestion has received an updated status!

[Add a bit about how Providence drops a different item depending on which biome you kill her in to the Profaned core tooltip]

It has officially been implemented into the game, and will be available in the next update!
You can check out your suggestion again here: #suggestions-voting message

[unborn siren]

I posted that in late march

it's now early july

[crude geode]

You at least got implementation lol

@hollow shell “but like c’mon” reasoning

(Also random ping)

[hollow shell]

@final bough 1. Don't ping Fab, there's a whole system for suggestion delivery
2. You need to provide actual reasoning in your suggestion for why it would benefit the mod
3. This idea sounds awful

[final bough]

e x a c t l y (also it wouldn't)

[hollow shell]

It wouldn't what

[cobalt rose]

benefit the mod i think

[unique vector]

congrats on the implementation

😃

(disclaimer: we do not prioritize community suggestions at all and are entirely based on whether or not a programmer and/or spriter decides to implement them, even if approved)

in most cases anayway

[unique vector]

heres the new tooltip btw

[unborn siren]

epic

[grave zinc]

@dusty path - Your suggestion has received an updated status!

[Add a part in the items that increases the player's mana/health permanently telling them that they already absorved it]

It has officially been implemented into the game, and will be available in the next update!
You can check out your suggestion again here: #suggestions-voting message

[hollow shell]

Not the solution I expected

but good

[unique vector]

(what did u want me to do for them)

i was talking abt it in suggs disc in caldev

amongst the other things i did here lol

[hollow shell]

Sorry I didn't scroll through dev sugg chat cuz I saw it got into programming and Visual Studio stuff

[unique vector]

i mean ig the actual tooltip could have updated but that sounds a bit funky sync-wise

oh yeaa no worries

my brain was all over the place

[hollow shell]

I was expecting tooltip change yeah

But if this is the more stable solution then that's a-ok

[unique vector]

its simpler

[hollow shell]

wait

[unique vector]

for my basic code knowledge

hai

whats up

[tardy geyser]

ask terry how he does the dynamic tooltips maybe?

[unique vector]

i aam not progam-head enough to know what he'd mean even if he explained it to me

👍

thats a job i leave to our more experienced

[hollow shell]

Okay in the future when we make the fruits all gen-based, it'll be a-ok
For the time being it can pose an issue with the fact that they're craftable

Someone could craft another fruit and not know until afterwards that they shouldn't have

[tardy geyser]

ig those cycle through while this one would have to have a trigger

[unique vector]

wdym

wdym by like, it being a problem & that they shouldnt have

are u saying that like ppl wont know that they shouldn't have made a second fruit until they try to eat it in the first place?

ig i could add "single-use" to their tooltips

not sure tho bc then i have to do it for the rage/adren items

for consistency

and life crystals/fruits dont have that so idk

[sinful steeple]

would it be alright to make a suggestion to give the eye bone item the ability to turn all pets into storage containers when right clicked/ an item that enables that functionality?

chester is really helpful since it's a more convenient money trough that takes up no inventory space but calamity has a lot of really goofy and cute pets people would probably rather use but don't because chester's just really convenient

[unique vector]

unsure

i mean, you could

its not against the rules

sounds technologically annoying tho

[crude geode]

Cal players when they have two money troughs now thanks to money trough and void portal: this isn’t enough

[sinful steeple]

fair enough

i don't want to make a suggestion that'd be annoying to implement

[crude geode]

@hollow shell this one feels self explanatory

[cobalt rose]

@alpine anchor

[alpine anchor]

fair enough

[hollow shell]

Bad.

[cobalt rose]

please take suggestions seriously folks

[alpine anchor]

i was serious.

[hollow shell]

No you weren't.

[unique vector]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/716867315869810770/988626382756126731/raidshadowiki1.gif

[cobalt rose]

im sorry but “make the music extra loud when you have max difficulty” is not something i would take seriously

[sand ermine]

[alpine anchor]

it is something i would, but anyways, no point arguing

[crude geode]

So true

[unique vector]

earrape will never be considered

DNC how serious you are

[crude geode]

Cal fans when devs remove jokes from the mod (their intellect is too low to understand burning sky is a joke)

[small timber]

@alpine anchor that will be extremely distracting, (and chat box spam)

it works well IF the player fought scal only once and succeed, but if you are reattempting at scal that idea will not gonna work

it will not be cinematic/climatic, annoying even maybe

[alpine anchor]

kk

[small timber]

if I dont misunderstood isnt prismite armor a mage armor? what does it have to do with rockets

[tidal sluice]

yeah

they break tiles

[distant gyro]

having rockets that explode in your ammo slot is not ideal

[tidal sluice]

OH THATS WHY

😭

that is so unintuitive i thought they always broke tiles

[frail mantle]

i don't think it's intended

[dire mural]

so i have an idea i need to discuss before i post

cause i checked the guidelines etc and i dont know

ahem

mounts like the DCU, but its from the DOG/EOW/Destroyer. It'd be like the DCU but weaker/stronger accordingly, and you'd be riding a mini dog/eow/destroyer.

im curious if this breaks any guidelines or anything, i dont think it does?

[frail mantle]

suggestions for adding items with specific stats, names, functions etc. are disallowed

[dire mural]

okay

dammit

[frail mantle]

you can be more general and just ask for an upgraded DCU, and then let the devs think of the specifics on their own if it's accepted

[dire mural]

hmm, okay

I could ask for an earlier DCU and upgraded DCU?

since its one of the more fun mounts

[frail mantle]

as long as you can write a good reason for why it should exist

[dire mural]

well, i think thats pretty easy to do

thank you

[frail mantle]

earlier DCU is kinda onyx excavator

[dire mural]

hmm, true

[frail mantle]

but upgraded DCU would be fine to suggest

[dire mural]

so does the "no suggestions" thing count for suggesting that it could be a combo of onyx and dcu?

🤔

wording matters apparently, and wording is one of my weak points

figured may as well ask

[frail mantle]

you can mention that it could potentially combine onyx and the dcu

[dire mural]

yeah okay, thanks

[frail mantle]

just be generally non-specific

[dire mural]

right, its the specificness thats not liked

[hollow shell]

#suggestions-voting message

There was one such suggestion somewhat recently

[hollow shell]

I personally never saw Earth Ele as being rare

(nor do I think its drops are particularly valuable)

[tropic sleet]

i was trying to kill an earth elemental for the Aftershock or the Earthen Pike, but one just wouldn't spawn

[hollow shell]

I see

[dire mural]

Well I was thinking upgrades and not just

“Mines fully all ores again”

Like calamity flare kinda upgrades the modders are known for doing

[gaunt tiger]

hey @hollow shell are there any plans to nerf saros possession? cos it's op

[hollow shell]

No idea

[gaunt tiger]

fair

[hollow shell]

I'll see if it's been mentioned in dev at all recently

[gaunt tiger]

it used to be post-p1 when p1 yharon was a thing but now it's pre-yharon and it just vaporises both him and Scal

[crude geode]

Just ping a tester?

[hollow shell]

Yes you can ping one of the testers in the big funny list

[gaunt tiger]

i will next time ty ^^ just saw you had posted recently

[hollow shell]

@proud plinth This is another very specific suggestion
You really shouldn't be including exact numbers like "1 second" and "25%", nor even most of the functionality you describe

You should be requesting more of a general concept, rather than explaining the exact mechanics you want to see

[inner anvil]

Do I hear summoner testing? Saraos Possesion it is?

[gaunt tiger]

morning memes

[inner anvil]

Morning, I can test Saraos Possesion if y'all want.

[gaunt tiger]

I was wondering if saros is getting nerfed

[inner anvil]

I do not know any plans.

[gaunt tiger]

bless

in my recent master run it absolutely shredded yharon and scal

[hollow shell]

Saros is a funny one cuz of the slot consuming scaling mechanic

[inner anvil]

True...

[hollow shell]

How many slots did you eat up Velvet

[gaunt tiger]

16

or possibly 15

all of them

[hollow shell]

It was your only minion?

[gaunt tiger]

yeah

[hollow shell]

Wow

[inner anvil]

Doesn't Saraos Possesion have diminishing returns?

[gaunt tiger]

who knows

it was significantly more damage than a full endo hydra spread

that is all I can tell you

[hollow shell]

Yes it does, it's a logarithm

[inner anvil]

Uh huh.

[gaunt tiger]

logs 🤮

[inner anvil]

Well, can test all-slot Saraos Possesion against Yharon? All fine?

[gaunt tiger]

🙏

thanks memes

I also used all slots saros against scal for my kill lol

[hollow shell]

(I too, barely understand logarithms
I just know their shape looks like this)

[inner anvil]

Thanks Rover.

[hollow shell]

np

[inner anvil]

[gaunt tiger]

thank also rover X_X

[proud plinth]

this is not what i said

it was more of a general baseline, i said it might take some tweaking

[gaunt tiger]

it's the rules tho they don't want specific item suggestions

more of a vague outline

[proud plinth]

wait so do they want a really detailed reason why it should be added or a really detailed suggestion, im confused

i think i understood the rules wrong 💀

[gaunt tiger]

detailed reason, not detailed tuning

[proud plinth]

k, how detailed should the reason be

[inner anvil]

As much as possible.

[gaunt tiger]

as detailed as you can

[proud plinth]

k

[gaunt tiger]

...says I, who wrote a short essay on master DoG

lmao

[inner anvil]

Okay, I tested Saraos Possesion against Yharon as requested.

[dire mural]

Basically they want a a basic idea and a reason for that to be added

[gaunt tiger]

oo

how was it

[dire mural]

Not specific numbers or effects or other things

[inner anvil]

Give me a second.

[dire mural]

So example

My idea for a DCU upgrade

[proud plinth]

wait so just to clarify where does it say it specifically disfavors very detailed suggestions

[gaunt tiger]

blade staff upgrade blade staff upgrade blade staff upgrade

[dire mural]

Pins

[proud plinth]

right but

[dire mural]

In one of the suggestion

I forget the exact

[proud plinth]

line number or whatever

[proud plinth]

k

[still zodiac]

Just refer from using specific number values unless it's absolutely needed

[dire mural]

Can @ one of the mods

They can help

[dire mural]

^

Basically

“Idea”

“Reason”

[still zodiac]

Something like that

[dire mural]

No numbers or specific effects usually

Or anything that tells the coders what exactly to do

That isn’t liked

[proud plinth]

ok ima rewrite the suggestion brb

[dire mural]

Yeah, just an idea

[golden tulip]

@hushed slate wrong format, please check pinned doc

[dire mural]

Like a DCU upgrade idea I gave

Here’s what I put

[still zodiac]

Something something achievements are planned but it has something to do with tmod

[dire mural]

Potentially add an upgrade to the DCU

The Drill Containment Unit is one of the most fun mounts in the vanilla game, however it feels like it could use an upgrade in calamity, something(s) to add that Calamity flare that everyone here loves. There's a lack of (subjective here) fun mounts in calamity, and a DCU upgrade could be a way to add some more fun.

Effectively this kind of post is fine

[still zodiac]

Although I can't exactly confirm what the situation is with achievements with tmod

[golden tulip]

speaking of, why dont achievements work with tmod

[proud plinth]

k rewrote it

[dire mural]

Something something coding

[still zodiac]

You're playing Terraria

[dire mural]

Best I got

[golden tulip]

what a genius answer

[still zodiac]

I mean

Am I wrong

[golden tulip]

thank you bruhimus i wouldve never realized

no you are 100% correct

[still zodiac]

Np bestie nut

[proud plinth]

is it any better now? i dumbed it down and removed all the things i deemed too specific, just giving a general idea

[muted osprey]

smth smth red is trash at coding

[dire mural]

Tmodloader isn’t actually separate from terraria, when you boot up tmodloader it also boots up terraria

So that’s probably something to do with it

[golden tulip]

yeah i always see on steam that both tmod and terraria are running

[still zodiac]

Seems the idea is more generalised, yea

[proud plinth]

k

[still zodiac]

I'd say it's better

Though that's for other people to decide

[proud plinth]

anything to revise now?

[still zodiac]

[golden tulip]

hope they manage to make achievements work someday

theyre cool

[dire mural]

Mmm, okay I see problem

Last part, you’re telling them how the mechanic should work in specific detail

For the shields

[proud plinth]

uhh k

hold on ill rewrite it

k

the baseline idea

[dire mural]

Essentially it should be fine if you say “the shield mechanic could have an adjustment change as it doesn’t do anything of note”

[proud plinth]

anything could be changed now, its just the main thought

[dire mural]

I’ll leave that to the mod or whoever manages that channel

[muted osprey]

shield rams are cool tho

:(

[dire mural]

I’m still new to the server for the most part

[proud plinth]

same 💀

[dire mural]

I’m just saying what I’ve learned from my own issues

[proud plinth]

man im not used to writing short suggestions or comments or anything

[muted osprey]

although paladin shield line needs a glowup asap

[proud plinth]

i usually have so much to say about a certain topic and minimizing it is genuinely hard

[still zodiac]

I'd recommend reading the suggestions in #suggestions-voting to see the general idea of how they're made. It obviously depends on the context if the suggestion but it's better than nothing

[proud plinth]

yeah i was just seeing a good bit of fairly detailed ones so i thought screw it

[still zodiac]

Yea, we all start somewhere so

[proud plinth]

even ones with numbers, specific numbers

[dire mural]

Usually those detailed ones are going over a general problem and vague suggestions of how to go about it

Specific numbers are highly unadvisedly unless necessary

Like math

If somethings problematic

[proud plinth]

like back to back too

[dire mural]

Like how someone gave end games drops for SCAL made no sense for being 2x as long as draedon

[dire mural]

Wording matters

[proud plinth]

i suppose, yes

[dire mural]

“Put X X X” instead of “maybe or some such xx x x”

Like for example

Someone talked about drop rates of ore from draedon and scal

Scal takes 4m longer then draedon on average

But drops less ore

[inner anvil]

@gaunt tiger @hollow shell Sorry for the wait, here's the result.

[dire mural]

So the specific number rates that it could be

Emphasis on could

They say Would make way more sense

Wording is very important here I’ve gathered

[inner anvil]

The test was done without Rage, Adrenaline and Whips.

[gaunt tiger]

I used profane soul also

and whips

and yeah, I guess maybe adrenaline pushed it to be so fast

[inner anvil]

Whips will not be taken into account, because we don't know how to balance them yet, we still need to figure it out.
Rage and Adrenaline because it's how tests are.
Profaned Soul does not do anything, minions don't crit.

[gaunt tiger]

it gives you a minion slot

[inner anvil]

Ah, profaned soul, the accesory.

I though you were saying the potion.

[gaunt tiger]

oh no that's profane rage or smth

[inner anvil]

Well, I chose Dark Sun Ring because it gives 2, and not 1 like Profaned Soul.

[gaunt tiger]

instead of bloodflare core

also I used alcohols

[inner anvil]

Alcohols are not taken into account.

For testing.

[gaunt tiger]

that does make sense

same reason as rage/drenaline

[inner anvil]

For testing we don't take into account tanking builds or glass cannon builds, we try to have a balance, that's why I have 4 Warding and 3 Menacing as well.

But anyways, in conclusion, this thing is overpowered.

[gaunt tiger]

wait actually or sarcasm

[inner anvil]

Did you look at the .txt I sent?

[gaunt tiger]

oh

OH

since when was this thing op

as in "when did this get so op"

[inner anvil]

Yes.

[gaunt tiger]

I thought you meant "this thing hasn't been op"

[inner anvil]

I always though it was bad.

[gaunt tiger]

m2 lol

[inner anvil]

But hell naw, this thing's OP.

[gaunt tiger]

it legit melts SCal

[hot zephyr]

summoner has been really strong at that tier for a long time now

[gaunt tiger]

in fact, could it be retiered?

instead of nerfed

[inner anvil]

I don't think so.

[hot zephyr]

doesn't seem likely tbh

it's a pretty big staple of summoner at that tier

it wouldn't be that difficult to reign it in

[inner anvil]

^

[gaunt tiger]

but it was nice to not have yharon's 3 kids running over my screen while I'm dodging scal attacks lol

[inner anvil]

Shrug.

[gaunt tiger]

fair tho

[hot zephyr]

it'd still be useful on scal, nerf or not

[inner anvil]

And plus, you can know this thing's OP because if you compare the intended time to kill Yharon to the actual time I got, something's wrong.

[gaunt tiger]

with full dps build I killed him before the chorus of phase 2 theme

[hot zephyr]

what probably happened was saros getting a relatively light nerf during curve flattening just due to yharon's speed

so by that logic, scal was getting nuked

[inner anvil]

Man...

[gaunt tiger]

oh, and shattered community is disgusting btw was it always so good? I've never used it before

[inner anvil]

It's kinda' the best accesory in the game.

[muted osprey]

it should be good

basically endgame

[inner anvil]

Do we intend that? No.

But we'll allow it? Yes.

[gaunt tiger]

is it meant to restore rage when you're currently in rage?

cos it does

[inner anvil]

Yes.

[gaunt tiger]

gross 😛

[inner anvil]

Well, it's the best accesory on the game, your reward for killing SCal, enjoy.

[gaunt tiger]

I think it's probably fine to be stronger for the second of the 2 final bosses tho ya

[hot zephyr]

it's comically overpowered and we're aware

[gaunt tiger]

fairynuff

[inner anvil]

Shattered Community is supposed to be the best offensive accesory on Calamity.
And Draedon's Heart is supposed to be the best defensive accesory on Calamity.

[gaunt tiger]

NANOMACHINES, SON

[golden tulip]

thats pretty epic ngl

😳

[hot zephyr]

i come back to main after like a week damn there's a lot of suggestions

[gaunt tiger]

welcome back 😄

oh, memes, did you hear I finished master rev on summoner?

[inner anvil]

Congratulations.

[gaunt tiger]

ty 😄

[gaunt tiger]

it was very fun

[fossil finch]

Because they aren't implemented for mods yet so they disabled them
When they are they'll be enabled

[hollow shell]

@primal laurel

By the way I am adding Levi&Ana summon item to Frequently Suggested now

[gaunt tiger]

lol

[hollow shell]

It's been suggested since.. I first joined the server, I think
Still hasn't been implemented

[small timber]

I think "add earth elemental to HOTE" is directly denied before, make earth elemental have a separete accessory is maybe acceptable

(but ya, need more reason to why earth elemetnal should have an accessory like that)]

@tardy flume ^ nvm I am dumb

[hollow shell]

Uh

I don't think the suggestion mentions Earth Ele at all

[small timber]

oh sorry

[hollow shell]

The sugg is referring to Bloom Stone, Chaos Stone, Aero Stone, and Cryo Stone

[small timber]

I see Stone of the Elements and thought "stone element" and think it is translation problem

[gaunt tiger]

isn't that going against "reverting a change isn't allowed"?

[hollow shell]

Kindaaa not really

The focus of the suggestion is combining the Stones into their own accessory
And even if it combines with HotE later, it still affirms HotE staying as it is now, summons-only

[gaunt tiger]

I have sooo many ideas I wanna suggest X _ X

[hollow shell]

You don't have any in posting rn, so you could

[gaunt tiger]

I have 4 in voting tho lol

[hollow shell]

That's fine

It only matters what's in #suggestions-posting