we're all clowns
#suggestions-discussion
swift wharf
inner anvil
How many of these emotes you have by the way? Holy. 💀
fossil finch
Infinite
swift wharf
feelschungusception
fossil gazelle
lol this comes from Arment Display
- I disabled the arment display auto swing
swift wharf
did you save with discord or
gray nebula
this, is the regular wulfrum bow
auto reuse, 25 use time, 25 use animation
one click = onea rrow
fossil gazelle
I hate my self for no reason now that I created this argument
hollow shell
@supple moon The incentive to do Malice is that you want to play a difficult mode
gray nebula
this, is the wulfrum bow with auto reuse turned off, with use animation = 5, and use time = 25
as ytou can see even if im spamming, itll only fire one arrow every 5 "shoots"
fossil gazelle
this, is the wulfrum bow with auto reuse turned off, with use animation = 5, and...
I didnt meant auto reuse I meant force auto swing
hollow shell
That's the same thing unless you mean only melee weapons
gray nebula
This is the wulfrum bow, with auto reuse on, and use time = 5, but use animation = 25
as you can see, it fires more per click
hollow shell
^ This is how Clockwork Assault Rifle and all weapons similar to it work
mismatched usetime and useanimation
Just a little fun fact
fossil gazelle
^ This is how Clockwork Assault Rifle and all weapons similar to it work
Pov: me
👁️ 👄 👁️
gray nebula
so basically it's not stats about autoreuse or force auto swing whatever that means
tldr: you were wrong, pwned, #mlg etc, etc, etc. got damn was it that hard to just listen to what a coder had to say 😭
fossil gazelle
tldr: you were wrong, pwned, #mlg etc, etc, etc. got damn was it that hard to ju...
UHhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh-------------_______________________________
gray nebula
Back to Being awesome (Back to Calamity)
fossil gazelle
Back to Being awesome (Back to Calamity)
f you
gray nebula
worldly token
Why is there a stackcount on a Weapon? :D Why is there a 3?
gray nebula
thas a bug
worldly token
oh well then
hollow shell
@ashen warren You need to format your suggestion properly, with a title above and a reason below, separated using a line break (Shift+Enter)
night jolt
The only problem with mimics is that they Spawn too often and clutter the inentory
And we already had the conversation about how adding rarity for its own sake is stupid and dumb
hollow shell
@dapper tendon Why?
dapper tendon
Beacuse cool
hollow shell
Invalid reason.
dapper tendon
And maybe add the true eye of Cathal
dapper tendon
Invalid reason.
Ok using one light per while there are a lot of other cool pets is annoying and being able to use multiple pets will be useful
And nice
hollow shell
Surely then you would ask for a system to enable the use of multiple light pets at once, and not just these two specific unrelated pets?
dapper tendon
Done
hollow shell
Okay that is better
I wouldn't say that having multiple is "useful"
But, you could say that only having one pet equipped at a time is an unnecessary restriction for what is ultimately a purely aesthetic choice?
(I don't agree necessarily but it'd be a stronger reason)
@jovial pelican That's uhh, in the mod, already
jovial pelican
oh, huh. well, there's no astral pottery though
hollow shell
You can suggest that exactly that get added if you can provide solid enough reasoning for it
which would probably be quite difficult
supple moon
insta banned
jovial pelican
You can suggest that exactly that get added if you can provide solid enough reas...
made edits to my suggestion. I largely made my reasoning from a builder's perspective, as furniture is a builder thing
deep lotus
I was gonna suggest the ability to put sunflowers on planter boxes for better arena building, but i'm a little busy rn, so i'm gonna leave this here
hollow shell
made edits to my suggestion. I largely made my reasoning from a builder's perspe...
Alright that suggestion works
Just remove those crossed out bits cuz they won't make sense to an outside observer
jovial pelican
alright
hollow shell
Vanilla doesn't have much in the way of pottery but I suppose
Astral Clay is its own unique block
so, sure I guess this is a logical step
jovial pelican
and a cool step too, at least to me
hardy dock
Honestly uh
Boots really shouldn't be a requirement to making the early game feel fun
quaint kernel
i mean they are a pretty important point in progression
hardy dock
Not really they're just an accessory that allows you to run
And lowering the movement speed just to make boots required is dumb imo
It just eats up an accessory slot and makes the game unnecessarily sluggish for the first hour of gameplay
quaint kernel
It just eats up an accessory slot and makes the game unnecessarily sluggish for ...
my bad i forgot to clarify something
ill edit it
fossil finch
Crying
Why does getting hermes boot need to make you feel anything
It's just one of the accs you're getting out of the pile and that you need anyways
quaint kernel
Why does getting hermes boot need to make you feel anything
i mean satisfaction is a pretty normal feeling when playing a game
hardy dock
Make hooks worse to make getting the climbing claws more satisfying
crude geode
This has been suggested a lot
hardy dock
Never understood why people dislike the speed increase
It's subtle and the vanilla move speed is unbearably slow
quaint kernel
nah i still think there should be an increase
just less of one
idk i feel like in calamity the boots are pretty important
crude geode
Still is gonna split votes and be cringe
quaint kernel
i mean they are just an accessory but they're just as important as wings to many players
quaint kernel
Still is gonna split votes and be cringe
?
fossil finch
It is a normal thing in games
hardy dock
idk i feel like in calamity the boots are pretty important
Most people don't even use the post-Moon Lord upgrades
night jolt
Like every other suggestion is: Remove this thing that makes the game more fun
Reasoning: It makes the vanilla content worse
fossil finch
Why is hermes any more important than any other acc
crude geode
Like every other suggestion is: **Remove this thing that makes the game more fun...
Calamity fans when the game doesn’t move at Mach 1 speed
fossil finch
Isn't it already satisfying to have the base speed be upped
quaint kernel
Why is hermes any more important than any other acc
because theyre borderline required for most players
quaint kernel
Isn't it already satisfying to have the base speed be upped
not rly
fossil finch
Yeah? That doesn't mean it needs to be impactful when you get it
It's still important
quaint kernel
i mean again there still should be an increase just less of one
hollow shell
The reason why Hermes feels like an impactful accessory is because of vanilla's awful sluggish movement when you do not have it
hardy dock
^
unborn oriole
Why are there so many people recently who don't like the base player buffs
quaint kernel
Yeah? That doesn't mean it needs to be impactful when you get it
yeah but it turns from "finally i can run" to "oh wow i move like 3mph faster yay"
fossil finch
Because their feelings or something
night jolt
because theyre borderline required for most players
Have you considered that isn't a good thing at that making it bearable to walk without them is better?
unborn oriole
Running from the beginning is like a fucking blessing
fossil finch
Instead of having to suffer to get that sweet sweet fun chemical you can get it right at the start
hollow shell
Have you considered that isn't a good thing at that making it bearable to walk w...
you wanna try again with that sentence
quaint kernel
The reason why Hermes feels like an impactful accessory is *because* of vanilla'...
thats why i suggested to still have an increase, but less of one, and instead have like half of the increase be in the hermes boots speed instead of the player
fossil finch
~~psychology
hardy dock
thats why i suggested to still have an increase, but less of one, and instead ha...
Why not instead just
Keep the move speed
And just,
Buff hermes boots,,,
night jolt
Hell, boots as a whole pretty much become irrelevant the instant you obtain wings cause you can just jump and get wing speed
fossil finch
Boss balance
fossil finch
Would you rather any boss be faster atom
unborn oriole
Hell, boots as a whole pretty much become irrelevant the instant you obtain wing...
Post moon lord be like
quaint kernel
Hell, boots as a whole pretty much become irrelevant the instant you obtain wing...
i mean eventually you just end up combining the boots with wings so either way
hollow shell
We do plan on eventually splitting them apart
fossil finch
Yes and said combo sucks
hardy dock
Nobody uses the tracers
fossil finch
Compared to having wings
night jolt
i mean eventually you just end up combining the boots with wings so either way
Not exactly, Tracers aren't a strict upgrade to the stuff you use to make them
fossil finch
(It is legitamely worse
hollow shell
Nobody uses the tracers
Very untrue statement
fossil finch
Tho, ^
quaint kernel
Buff hermes boots,,,
cuz then the hermes boots would be overpowered
swift wharf
tracers are a sidegrade
quaint kernel
tracers are a sidegrade
good point
night jolt
Drew's Wings have much better flight time than Celestial Tracers for example
swift wharf
although I prefer wings until elysian tracers
hardy dock
Simply hovering in the air gives better speed than the tracers
night jolt
I'm pretty sure same is true for Elysian, don't quote me on that
unborn oriole
Elysians go at the same speed as Seraphs on ground
hardy dock
@cinder jolt pylons are being added in a future update iirc
hollow shell
@cinder jolt Already in the plans 👍
It is sprited, too. We'll be implementing all the Calamity pylons soon-ish
cinder jolt
oh thank god, nice
quaint kernel
nice
cinder jolt
will NPCs have their own happiness as well?
night jolt
The only reason people use Tracers is because they've only ever unequipped boots to upgrade them
swift wharf
ye
unborn oriole
Already
night jolt
When the truth is that they should've unequipped boots the moment they get wings
unborn oriole
The only reason people use Tracers is because they've only ever unequipped boots...
I only use tracers on scal because of the increased I-frames
crude geode
Cal fans when they don’t personally use tracers (some no hitter said it was bad)
hollow shell
will NPCs have their own happiness as well?
If they don't already then yes
crude geode
I’m pretty sure a decent chunk of people still use tracers.
night jolt
I have no justification for this that is substantial in any way, but I think it'd be neat if Cirrus always had maximum happiness in a drunk world
quaint kernel
When the truth is that they should've unequipped boots the moment they get wings
again thats why im saying for half of the speed increase to be in boots instead of the player, then people with wings will still have the movement speed they need while people with boots will be happier with early game progression
swift wharf
I stop using boots after plant so like 
quaint kernel
win-win
night jolt
again thats why im saying for half of the speed increase to be in boots instead ...
No, because EVERYONE needs to walk for at least a bit of the game before obtaining wings
Even in Journey cause lol Fledging Wings
quaint kernel
No, because EVERYONE needs to walk for at least a bit of the game before obtaini...
?
thats why i said there can still be a speed increase?
night jolt
I think its dumb to remove the speed boost from the player just because "Hermes Boots are an important accessory." Some people don't wanna use Boots, ever considered that?
quaint kernel
I think its dumb to remove the speed boost from the player just because "Hermes ...
thats why im saying to find a middle ground
tardy geyser
currently boots still give like a 10-20 mph run speed increase, thats plenty.
quaint kernel
some people DO use boots, ever think of that?
night jolt
Thats like deliberately clogging up sequence breaks in a Metroidvania
hollow shell
Thats like deliberately clogging up sequence breaks in a Metroidvania
I did want to bring up metroidvanias
night jolt
some people DO use boots, ever think of that?
Ah yes, all those boots users just hate the speed boost in Calamity
hollow shell
Toyota is seeing Hermes Boots as a 'milestone' kind of item
Like getting Mothwing Cloak in Hollow Knight
quaint kernel
a bit yeah
what im saying is that there are a ton of people who feel the same way and a ton of people who feel the opposite so its good to find a middle ground
hollow shell
If the player was already able to dash from the start of the game, but at say 1/2 the distance, then Mothwing won't feel like as much of an upgrade
quaint kernel
If the player was already able to dash from the start of the game, but at say 1/...
thats a really pretty good way to put it
hollow shell
You NEED the Mothwing Cloak
Shade Skip
night jolt
Unless you're a super duper speedrunner guy who knows every trick in the game, the Mothwing Cloak is 100% required to beat Hollow Knight
tardy geyser
accessories are more like charms tho, if you had to use say 5 charm notches to have a nerfed mothwing cloak would you?
quaint kernel
what im saying is that there are a ton of people who feel the same way and a ton...
i mean at the end of the day this is really just my point
hollow shell
(The analogy fits quite closely with the existing Dashmaster charm actually)
night jolt
I think its just you man
hollow shell
I do not think that
this needed to continue as an argument for however long it's been going on
Because the suggestion is not invalid
And star voting exists
night jolt
I've never seen someone whos a diehard Boots fan and really hates the speed increase from Calamity
frail mantle
Unless you're a super duper speedrunner guy who knows every trick in the game, t...
uhm actually it depends on what ending you're going for 🤓
quaint kernel
oh yeah also what you said about using wings but not boots being viable kinda isnt in malice mode which is what im playing on
night jolt
Not everyone plays Malice lol
quaint kernel
well there are people that do
im just using it as a point
not a main point
thats why i didnt point that out in the suggestion
hollow shell
I do not think that
this needed to continue as an argument for however long it's...
(this was subtext-speak for "Shut up now please")
quaint kernel
(this was subtext-speak for "Shut up now please")
my bad didnt see that
night jolt
That reads more like a bug report
Or is it like that for stuff like Paladin in vanilla?
distant gyro
if AS has it it's definitely a bug
for rare enemies or minibosses, it's less so
but also that should apply to banners as well
hollow shell
distant gyro
you also do need to kill 50 nymphs for a nymph banner
hollow shell
I guess the bestiary thinks AS isn't a boss
distant gyro
or 50 juvenile eidolons for its banner
night jolt
Probably cause of the wierd spawn thing
hollow shell
Indeed
crude geode
Because the suggestion is not invalid
And star voting exists
mr. mister ranting everytime a sugg he doesn't like comes up
byeah this sounds like a bug @dawn trellis
hardy dock
mr. mister ranting everytime a sugg he doesn't like comes up
(They)
crude geode
True apologies
hollow shell
@gaunt tiger Perhaps clarify that you mean minions (and sentries)
Because whips exist now
hollow shell
👍 Thanks
hollow shell
Ye that there is the proper channel
pastel crow
@unreal lark Jungle roses are actually quite easy to get
obsidian roses are easily obtainable in calamity (once you are post EoW/BoC)
swift wharf
Being able to craft it with obsidian skull rose would still be nice, no?
sand ermine
My solution to that information: AlchemistNPC Lite 
swift wharf
I will murder you
sand ermine
Come over, I am at 3-
swift wharf
sand ermine
hollow shell
Your suggestion is fine RocketBat, just gotta correct that bit about Jungle Roses
pastel crow
My issue with the recipe being added is that Cal has made Obsidian Skull Rose upgrade line at least a little more stand out than just the accessories combined by introducing increased defense as the accessory is upgraded, and loosing that defense when turning it into lava waders seems a bit strange.
swift wharf
a recipe with water walking boots, osr and lava charm would be neato
pastel crow
Though to be honest, I think my previous point is nitpicking, adding the recipe I feel would make little difference, but it wouldn't hurt to have it.
swift wharf
Well some items lose stats when upgraded into smth
like emblems
byeah it wouldn't hurt to have it
dapper forge
so I'm playing in journey mode trying to 100% all item research with mods and i couldn't help but notice quest fish don't have research. can they have? like in the base game.
i confused channels sorry
dapper forge
prolly
hollow shell
@spare tulip "on a multiplayer server it can get very difficult to tell people that they should not abuse it"
That's more of a.. problem with your friends?
spare tulip
yes i agree but i can imagine many others can have friends like this, for me it's rather many people on my server who are against this because they feel like grinding normaly is a waste becaue you can just summon EoC 50 times
worthy lintel
another config...
spare tulip
their arguments lack a bit of reasoning but i want to make it an enjoyable experience for everyone anyways
ashen warren
by that logic a toggle would change nothing
as then they would feel grinding normally is a waste because you can just turn on the config and summon eoc 50 times
doesnt solve anything and just adds uneeded config bloat
spare tulip
isn't it so that only the server hoster can change the config?
or more server side config (example boss health scaling)
swift wharf
and at one point you just casually have 100 plat tbh
dapper forge
ye
drowsy plank
@unreal lark you can buy the jungle rose from the dryad, y'know, right?
unreal lark
already mentioned
swift wharf
there is a faster extractinator mod
fossil finch
Ore slimes implodes
crude geode
It really isn’t that annoying?????
Cal fans when they actually have to mine (this is a travesty)
swift wharf
if your problem is lava the demolitionist sells obby skin potions ai think
spark pulsar
Hell stone is one of easiest ores to obtain, it’s all over the biome
half sage
Ore slimes *implodes*
spare harbor
Cal fans when they actually have to mine (this is a travesty)
yeah but idk i just hate mining hellstone
frosty trellis
Cal fans when they actually have to mine (this is a travesty)
Me who mines for every calamity ore even after doing 4 solo playthroughs and a co-op without complaint
dapper forge
Mining is pog tho
distant gyro
slimes (not good)
swift wharf
me when aero cryo perennial chaotic uelibloom slimes and maybe more
drowsy plank
please no more ore slimes im begging
crude geode
@hollow shell does latest sugg have enough reasoning or can you shoot it down
fossil finch
Ore slime don't
swift wharf
ore bats
fossil finch
Fuck you
swift wharf
<@149223721700163584> does latest sugg have enough reasoning or can you shoot it...
it appears that another sugg has been posted
hollow shell
@gaunt tiger Sounds like a bug
swift wharf
I think they mean hell critters
fossil finch
Those aren't calamity
swift wharf
o what
hollow shell
Either that or they're playing with CalVal
fossil finch
R u sure this isn't about calval yeah
gaunt tiger
I think they mean hell critters
it's only the calamity critters that it happens to
I guess it's probably a bug
night jolt
Only critters in Hell are the bugs that let you fish in lava
hollow shell
it's only the calamity critters that it happens to
I guess it's probably a bug
What Calamity critters?
fossil finch
Not calamity
gaunt tiger
What Calamity critters?
astral squirrels, brimstone boyes, plague froges, etc
hollow shell
Yep, those are from a different mod
fossil finch
Not calamity
distant gyro
calamity has like 5 critters only
fossil finch
Not our problem
distant gyro
baby flak, baby ghost, piggy, sea minnow, twinkler
swift wharf
@ yuh fix your mod smh
fossil finch
Not our problem, yell at yuh for that
distant gyro
i think that's all
gaunt tiger
(I really love calval please don't kill me yuh)
swift wharf
critters are secretly evil
jovial pelican
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2773928114&searchtext=ext...
welp, that works only for 1.4 calamity, and I'm in 1.3 for my current run. I tried the other extractor mods, and aside from one that straight up made extracting use no blocks, none of them work.
hollow shell
Doesn't Fargo Mutant speed it up?
swift wharf
also that
jovial pelican
what's Fargo Mutant? Does it change a lot?
hollow shell
It's a QoL mod primarily
Adds NPCs which sell boss summons
Adds some "create a thing instantly" items
dapper forge
baby flak, baby ghost, piggy, sea minnow, twinkler
false
hollow shell
And I think faster extracts is among its changes
dapper forge
blood worm is a critter
distant gyro
repair unit and bloodworm e
dapper forge
ye
distant gyro
(there are no cages i do not know of their existence)
dapper forge
ik check suggestions
jovial pelican
And I think faster extracts is among its changes
I'll go for that, though I'll see if I can turn off the instant builder things, cause taking the time to build stuff is fun
hollow shell
You can simply choose to not craft them
half sage
the instant builder things are things you craft
hollow shell
(they're crafted)
jovial pelican
true
half sage
don't have to turn them off just don't use them
dapper forge
it seems like people aren't able to research cal quest fish
uwu
crude geode
<@149223721700163584> does latest sugg have enough reasoning or can you shoot it...
@hollow shell (apologies for double ping) was referring to hellstone ore sugg
jovial pelican
well, apparently Fargo's Mutant mod requires other mods to attach to it to fulfil requirements, and does not say what those are
since I don't want to stray too far from Calamity itself, I'm going to just give up on the whole speedup thing for the extractinator
dapper forge
well, apparently Fargo's Mutant mod requires other mods to attach to it to fulfi...
that's a bug
hollow shell
But yeah if it's just this little timesave then it's nbd
jovial pelican
it says it's trying to make a recipe in the game that has no output
dapper forge
fargo's mutant needs no other mod
hollow shell
<@149223721700163584> (apologies for double ping) was referring to hellstone ore...
The reasoning is indeed minimal
myeah fuck it
@spare harbor Acknowledge fishing crates in your suggestion.
spare harbor
wait...you can get hellstone from fishing
crude geode
Cal moment
swift wharf
thry don't drop hellstone
crude geode
Hellstone crates don’t drop hellstone 
hollow shell
@empty kestrel Direct server suggestions to our staff mail bot
empty kestrel
oh
fringe notch
@empty kestrel Incorrect place for such a suggestion, AND it's formatted incorrectly
empty kestrel
i got pointed to this channel, my apologies
hollow shell
Ah @inner anvil You messed up
inner anvil
I wasn't referencing that lmao.
hollow shell
Oh LMAO
swift wharf
scenic pine
Bro what
inner anvil
I was referencing Brain of Confusion's Cooldown.
crude geode
hollow shell
That's hilarious
crude geode
Fantastic
inner anvil
Sorry for the confusion!
swift wharf
fringe notch
@spiral nest get a bigger monitor, idk
scenic pine
Sorry for the confusion!
Brain of Confusion
fossil finch
@spiral nest this is an intentional deadmode change that makes him shorter but thiccer
swift wharf
Better Zoom and Camera Control tm
spiral nest
<@348139765088124940> this is an intentional deadmode change that makes him shor...
what does it add though, i dont get it
and i have that mod but still, seems like a useless change
fossil finch
Please guys inform yourself what you're talking about before suggesting anything
Doesn't it also happen in ftw
Idk
grim tusk
#suggestions-posting message never had an issue with those even in malice.
fossil finch
Anyways it adds i don't know either ask fabsol
gray nebula
any sprite upscaling haters in the chat
crude geode
any sprite upscaling haters in the chat
True.
fossil finch
Pretty sure it's just changing the fight from prevent getting enclosed to prevent getting hit
swift wharf
I will downscale the sprites
hollow shell
Please guys inform yourself what you're talking about before suggesting anything...
🤨
fossil finch
Make a new sprite for chungus death des
grim tusk
#suggestions-posting message add ore slimes to every ore returns
fossil finch
I'm talking about latest
They should at least like
Mention it's not a global change
swift wharf
#suggestions-posting message btw this sounds like a bug
grim tusk
It indeed is an oversight
grim tusk
Researching quest fix
fossil finch
"Add item that fixes bug until bug is fixed" is one of my favorite suggs btw
crude geode
Mobile 
swift wharf
not being able to research quest fish
hollow shell
That is probably an oversight but not a bug
fossil finch
It's like a workaround over nothing
fossil finch
Theres like 20 suggs in voting
I'm worried about devs now that drowning isn't exactly a thing
Though it's a large enough quantity it probably does drown
crude geode
It’s truly an update moment
It’s kinda just natural tbfh, I guess you could adjust things but that’s the glory of top 25%, they don’t have to.
swift wharf
feedback \™
grim tusk
This aint as bad as Rust and Dust or Draedon update
fringe notch
there's been so many damn suggestions since the update released
crude geode
This aint as bad as Rust and Dust or Draedon update
Disagree but did we even have the 25% bot during drae or rust and dust
crude geode
God right we didn’t
grim tusk
Draedon update was ~15 malice suggs per day
And exo suggs too
(Until they got better visual telegraphs and bug fixes)
swift wharf
btw storm do you know if whips were tested with mounted scanner?
grim tusk
btw storm do you know if whips were tested with mounted scanner?
Whips are bugged and so is scanner
swift wharf
oh
inner anvil
Whips...
grim tusk
Yes but they ended up breaking
crude geode
Draedon update was ~15 malice suggs per day
Just wait for the ~15 daily FTW suggs
fossil finch
Also I'd like you guys to check mage's strenght early
inner anvil
Eventually™️.
grim tusk
Yes but they ended up breaking
They did very well vs Malice Aureus and Empress
fossil finch
Like, frost bolt up til waywasher type of early
It's been feeling very weak to me
inner anvil
Unless Storm has too much free time.
grim tusk
Exhaustion man
inner anvil
Break time?
swift wharf
duke got shredded
grim tusk
Been taking a break ever since the plasma grenades suggested balancing since they can now get reforged :cirnosip:
And that doc
inner anvil
I haven't done anything for a while, so as soon we get decided with whip balancing, I'm hoping I will grind summoner testing.
swift wharf
terraprisma was also very funny against polter
grim tusk
Last time I played tml, i went back to try to nohit shit. EoL is very fun on shroomed. Unlike Scal and exos
inner anvil
You always do these challenges bruh.
grim tusk
I am it for the trill and occasional adrenaline
Otherwise I’d would not do them at all
inner anvil
I guess it's fair enough.
grim tusk
Also helps me check how fucked up is rogue min max
Malachite can kill EoL in 30 seconds 
inner anvil
Least Dedicated Rogue Player.
crude geode
Truly
inner anvil
Obviously joking by the way lmao, you're very dedicated.
crude geode
I’ve been debating starting a new playthrough of cal because I did like. One playthrough of Draedon with friends and that was about it.
Would help me find new content for suggs (like we need more)
small timber
(though probably worth pointing up if the wiki is true, that is an extremely small amount of hellstone per crate)
crude geode
who designed new coral sprout btw
small timber
Most crates drop vanilla ores/bars in equivalent of 10+ (considering crate is somewhat rare)
distant gyro
that is true but brav forgot to do anything to brimstone crate
note the lack of charred ore
crude geode
typical iban designing cool weapons
lavish condor
How would a sugg about resetting dash cooldown when a boss spawns do?
I find it annoying when you're heading over to spawn a boss and a random enemy hits you and puts you on cd for 2 minutes, and is especially impactful for a fight like S-Cal, where the beginning is the most dangerous and punishing part and a dodge could save a run
hollow shell
I suppose that makes sense as a suggestion
I'm trying to think of the ways it could be used as a cheese
Like spawning EoC in the middle of a fight
crude geode
only if a boss isn't already present?
hollow shell
^ likely.
lavish condor
Yeah I thought about that but didn't want to risk the issue with being too specific
crude geode
I think it's fine to be specific here so people know you don't want cheese or anything
lavish condor
Maybe it would be an issue with summoning something like King Slime in out-of-boss scenarios to refresh dodge in places like post-ML underworld/hallow but that's all I can think of
crude geode
eh that's fine prolly, go ahead and sugg it with the whole only if no boss is present condition
hollow shell
((could make it only work for bosses you haven't beaten yet
Immediate refights are a thing tho, for getting your class's item n stuff)) 🤷
fossil finch
I don't think it will be abused in enemy fight situations
small timber
is the ore slimes rework (removal, basically make renewable ore source more interesting) on the priority list or soon? since if it is already in devplans.png it will be kinda useless for me to post the suggestions
(the suggestion is just to gouge public interest)
night jolt
OK I understand what you mean, but name a single dodge that has a cooldown longer than 2 minutes
I'm pretty sure the longest one is Void Sash at 90 seconds lmao
small timber
most of them are 2 minutes I think?
(oh right they removed a few)
90 seconds is still a long time though, if it is a time you have to physically wait when you get hit at the start of an attempt
(other case like healing potions, even Silva cooldown in some case) maybe also applicable
night jolt
Yeah thats just me deliberately arguing in bad faith, I 100% back this suggestion otherwise
ashen warren
The exclamation point reaction means people agree with your suggestion, right?
night jolt
The opposite actually
hollow shell
It means invalid
night jolt
You probably broke a suggestion rule
hollow shell
Sorry for not pinging you earlier, channel's been busy
hollow shell
I exclamated it because it's more or less a bug-fix suggestion
night jolt
Well for one, I have no idea what this suggestion is about
hollow shell
We will likely have that bug fixed by the next release
ashen warren
Oh
drowsy plank
what even is the bug
hollow shell
(hopefully)
(hopefully)
ashen warren
Will it be able to unfuck the worlds that are already affected?
small timber
sulphur sea/abyss and the ocean can just swap randomly iirc
hollow shell
I actually have not seen a suggestion to work around a bug in, I dunno how long
small timber
(as in the recognition of the biome, so you can breath freely in abyss or drown suddenly in ocean)
ashen warren
Unfuck your world
small timber
ya
ashen warren
Put the biome where it needs to be
drowsy plank
yeah okay buddy how coding wise
hollow shell
I can see the motivation behind the suggestion
ashen warren
idk. how, coding wise, did it happen in the first place
drowsy plank
i mean at that point ur just asking "fix the bug"
night jolt
Yeah, know almost nothing about coding, but why add an "unfuck the world button" instead of unfucking the world intuitively?
ashen warren
Because right now there is no other way to do it
but hopefully next release comes soon
ashen warren
I just entered hardmode so i dont need abyss stuff that badly yet
drowsy plank
it took me a second to process that they meant like, where the abyss is identified, and not just like. swapping all the blocks. cause the abyss always generates on dungeon side
ashen warren
yeah the mod always places the abyss biome on one side regardless of the blocks there
drowsy plank
wait doesnt the bug make it easier to traverse? just go grab the stuff lmao
ashen warren
mine worked at first
ashen warren
wait doesnt the bug make it easier to traverse? just go grab the stuff lmao
Yeah but that isn't fun
plus i cant get depth cells later on lel
night jolt
Yeah but that isn't fun
SMH just grab Terminus pre hardmode
ashen warren
or whatever drops from abyss enemies
ashen warren
SMH just grab Terminus pre hardmode
You mean you don't do that everytime? also already did lol
I swear you used to be able to get to the bottom pre hardmode, is that still possible
small timber
it is still possible just you have to be extremely fast
because you will drown REALLY quick
ashen warren
last time i did that was like 3 years ago or something lol
Also now that I have played subnautica i have a new appreciation for abyss biome
grim tusk
I swear you used to be able to get to the bottom pre hardmode, is that still pos...
you can
"Just don't get hit..."
Amidias
small timber
ok fixed I keep confusing the name
gray nebula
Cloud Sprities
half sage
based suggestion, all my homies hate ore slimes
hollow shell
@thorny smelt Boss suggestions are not allowed
thorny smelt
Ok
hollow shell
(also the world evils don't have much to do with Calamity's lore either) 
true inlet
(also the world evils don't have much to do with Calamity's lore either) <:HDFai...
they just exist, right?
hollow shell
The Crimson actually has/had(?) some lore explanation on Calamity's part
Of being Cthulhu's living corpse
The Corruption uhh hasn't really been touched, it just exists
small timber
(and the mod havent been updated for a long time before 2.0 so they kinda run out of complaints suggestions to make)
frosty trellis
cobalt pewter
why did 2.0 drive so many people to make a suggestion
that's just what happens when a large update drops
and 2.0 is relatively large
(no major content yet but it's the first patch on 1.4 tmod)
golden tulip
i guess
celest sonnet
💀 the suggestion
small timber
@coral pumice backup your suggestion with data on how terrarian is better than zenith
because I will WISH terrarian is better than zenith, since zenith is scal and exo viable to kill them under 4 minutes and terrarian takes 12 minutes
coral pumice
4 minutes is still bad
small timber
4 minutes is standard, you are confusing it with nohit timer
in fact, if a weapon can kill scal and exo under 4 minutes on a 'balanced' setup (as in, no super glass cannon/super tank setup), it is considered to be incredibly broken
celest sonnet
zenith is ass bro
celest sonnet
<@191304409798541312> backup your suggestion with data on how terrarian is bette...
he doesnt need to back up his suggestion, hes just spitting straight fax ong ong
coral pumice
tbh maybe the whole speedkilling meta and not getting hit is corrupting my mind, or maybe it's just bad
half sage
also aren't balance suggestions meant to be done via pinging a tester in this chat now, since that's way more direct then having it go through voting
celest sonnet
they should really leave the zenith how it is
olive tapir
small timber
nohitter setup numbers don't really compare to how long a boss normally is killed
celest sonnet
it cant even kill cal clone that well
small timber
for example on a super minmaxed nohit setup, exo can die under 50 seconds with rancor
however if you use rancor with a normal balanced setup the time will be like 3.5~4 minutes
coral pumice
Yeah no hit corrupts my mind
small timber
another consideration is adrenaline, because nohit ALWAYS have adrenaline, and when I mentioned 'balanced setup' kill time, do know that they NEVER include adrenaline
which means if you use it (in your fight) and you get adrenaline, you get significantly below 4 minutes
coral pumice
OK here me out
I may be stupid
small timber
post provi calclone is tanky
not like extremely tanky, but definitely not HM level of HP
celest sonnet
post provi calclone is tanky
i didnt use it on post cal clone
stable musk
zenith can easily reach auric tier dps without minmaxing
so auric bars here are just for temporary craft fix
golden tulip
i dont think its temporary my dude
zenith fits there just fine why would it not go there
stable musk
it may be changed to some other swords instead of the 5 bars
stable musk
having almost all key swords from pre-hm and hm and then just keeping them until yharon's death
the same issue as hote
golden tulip
i dont think any dev has ever mentioned any plans of adding new swords to zenith
and i had gotten the impression that the auric bars are permanent
small timber
it is (in the word of beta testers), as strong as other auric tier weapon right now
it is probably the 2nd best melee weapon for scal right now except for aotc which apparently the melee speed thing make it way overperforming
frosty trellis
Yeah
frosty trellis
I would if I didn't suck at SCal
golden tulip
clueless
frosty trellis
?
frosty trellis
Okay then...
If it weren't an endgame weapon, and therefore supposed to be very good, I would of asked someone to test Contagion out, bc with my standard more defensive build, one use of rage and no adren, killed AEW in 42 seconds Expert-Death lmao
small timber
I mean if I am to test the weapon I will probably use a similar set up and get similar result, maybe slightly higher time because my aim bad
frosty trellis
I just don't want to sit through 20+ SCal fights bc I suck at fighting her
20 is an exaggeration, but besides the point
eternal escarp
dev tier isnt really a focus of balancing and wont be for a while afaik so enjoy it for now ig
frosty trellis
Which is why I wasn't going to suggest balancing it, since it's supposed to be very, very good lmao
stable musk
aew lacks worm boss disadvantage and advantage
lucid marsh
Thoughts on adding the mana cloak effect to the ethereal talisman?
It gives a fun way to play the mage class instead of spamming mama potions
That being picking up stars that fall from the sky to restore your mana
hollow shell
It's technically a possible crafting component so you could suggest that
lucid marsh
Yeah it's my favorite mana flower alternative
robust lava
This is a specific item suggestion, which aren’t allowed. Read the pinned dont’s document @rugged vector
small timber
@keen zodiac the same suggestion is approved just like 3 days ago I think, too recent
ya just here
keen zodiac
<@766511001356468237> the same suggestion is approved just like 3 days ago I thi...
oh cool
brw there's also no acidwood fences...
ashen warren
they should add murasama shortsword
celest pivot
jes
small timber
hardy dock
Wasn’t the challenge item thing removed and just made into normal weapons
quaint kernel
well weapons and accessories
at one point they were revengeance exclusive, then they were changed to malice mode exclusive, then finally they were changed to just drop in every difficulty
they still all drop from bosses
eternal escarp
they arent actually
the - Challenge Item - tag is completely gone since uhh
i think it was 1.5.1
quaint kernel
i thought theyre main intentions were to just make them accessible to all difficulties
eternal escarp
mhm
challenge item tag and stuff removal is part of it
the only things locked behind difficulty is like
Gaels Greatsword and relics i think
and MM pets
so the sugg is kinda irrelevent since challenge items as a concept doesnt exist anymore
small timber
i thought theyre main intentions were to just make them accessible to all diffic...
ya currently challenge item is just completely gone
it is not that they are accessible in all difficulties, it is more that they are just normal boss drop now
quaint kernel
eh changed it a bit
small timber
I dont think you can change much, the suggestion dont really apply anymore
quaint kernel
wdym?
small timber
challenge item dont exist anymore
they are just normal boss drop now, they are not tied to any sort of challenge or difficulties anymore
you beat a boss, you open the treasure bag and there is a chance you get the item from the treasure bag, thats all, just like all other boss drops
quaint kernel
ill keep up my suggestion tho
i still think it would be a lot more fun than just items with lower drop rates, plus it would change getting them from artificial grind to getting them through practice and skill
small timber
@ashen warren boss spawn animation is part of the frequently suggested suggestion, don't have to post anymore, they eventually will get added
eternal escarp
quaint kernel
yeah probably
small timber
i still think it would be a lot more fun than just items with lower drop rates, ...
the devs are currently actively make items less requiring nohit/take low damage (as the idea is obviously related to nohit I will treat it as nohit) so I will say unlikely they revert it
eternal escarp
preferably
small timber
if they want nohit challenge item to continue existing they will not rework day EoL and stuff
currently all (kinda "challenge") item are almost exclusively meant to be pure cosmetic, like dye
eternal escarp
(would not have, its not the future the change already happaned)
eternal escarp
i mean youre basically asking for specific items to become "challenge rewards" agian
items that are now just plain normal items
small timber
I mean last time when challenge item exist people hated it, and it was malice; nohitting bosses is even harder than malice in general
so it is gatekeeping people even further than what malice drop once do
hardy dock
Don’t be a Polarities
quaint kernel
yeah but i saw the drop rates for the items and got flashbacks to grinding plaguebringer goliath for the accessory you used to use to make heart of the elements and just thought "man why would there be one like that for every boss"
eternal escarp
10% isnt that low tbh
small timber
and made especially worse considering the server no longer give nohit roles specifically to discourage everything about calamity being no-hitting, reintroducing it like this is super counter-intuitive and backward
eternal escarp
most of these used to be 1% to 2.5%
at this point youre better off
suggesting to increase their rate
small timber
ya 10% is seriously not that low
small timber
suggesting to increase their rate
^
eternal escarp
rather then this side-ways way to bring back a feature that was changed deliberately
hardy dock
Flashbacks to 2019 when every mod wanted to make half their content 1% drop chances
quaint kernel
i mean this isnt no hitting i was talking about
hell i could change it to just no using healing potions
eternal escarp
its not about nohitting its about just needless "challenge rewards"
quaint kernel
that would be pretty accessible to people who dont like no hit challenges
eternal escarp
youre practically asking for old content to return with a slightly new shift in tone
frozen hornet
Former challenge items that are 10% drops will get a new obtainment method eventually so I don't see why this is needed
quaint kernel
Former challenge items that are 10% drops will get a new obtainment method event...
i did not know that
eternal escarp
(SHPC already has one)
fossil finch
Specifically legendaries
frozen hornet
oh I thought it included former RIVS
small timber
I forgot the specifics but RIVS used to be just nerfed-down version of legendaries I think
at least many of them are
frozen hornet
RIVs were better versions of normal items
small timber
and since the previous RIVS are completely removed (as in don't exist in the game now, even without being RIVS) the suggestion really only apply to (previous) legendaries
frozen hornet
true
swift wharf
evil smasher when no hammer power
inner anvil
@cedar lantern Sorry, we are removing Whip Stacking, so this suggestion won't happen.
cedar lantern
wait wtf
night jolt
Whips were changed to give percentage bonuses in Calamity
tired coral
Would this ever get implemented or not?
Abyss Concept
Make it so that the deeper the Abyss gets, the more convoluted it becomes. Also try to make it so that the Abyss eventually "falls" out through the world. I'm not saying to make an entirely new biome, I'm just suggesting a way you can somewhat change it without affecting the overall Abyss biome too much. I got this idea from the fact that the lower Abyss is already filled with Voidstone, so you could somewhat implement it once you get to the Voidstone layer. Something to add on would also be like a few special environment affecters, such as extra breath loss, and that this area is blocked off and will not be accessible UNLESS Adult Eidolon Wyrm is killed, and like the wyrm could be this "Guardian" that protects what lies below(hence it's convoluted appearance, which could be affected by staying down their for too long). I know this will MOST LIKELY BE REMOVED, but im still pitching it just in case. Even if it doesn't work, there's another idea I have in mind.
night jolt
Anything other than Blade Staff would be fucking insane if whip stacking were still a thing
half sage
if by "fall out" through the world, you mean it penetrating all the way through hell to the bottom of the explorable map, that conflicts with crag rework plans
tired coral
if by "fall out" through the world, you mean it penetrating all the way through ...
o then how about it like just has a void
and the Crag is seperated from it
no they have a cover up so it doesnt fall through
like you cant enter crag through abyss and vice versa
from the Crag view it looks like regular stuff
and from the AByss view you just see black stuff
timid talon
and plus, the abyss isn't always above the brimstone crag. the sulphurous sea/abyss is always on the same side as the dungeon, while the brimstone crag is always on the left side of the underworld
huh, didn't know that
tired coral
I mean if we have a void thing
it might somewhat work
or it could just straight up look like nothing there
OR
what you could do is just make sure the Dungeon and Brimstone Crag never spawn near each other
like Dungeon always on the right
or if you really wanted
make it so that crag can spawn left or right too
so then dugneon can be both left and right
small timber
they main question is why does it need to exist?
tired coral
they main question is why does it need to exist?
what?
small timber
is it purely for flavour? because currently I don't see a purpose for abyss to have an area that is like, directly connected to the void as you say
minor shell
the abyss can be on the right side of the world?
tired coral
Bruh theres an entire soundtrack and block DEDICATED TO THE PURPOSE
Voidstone
and the "Void" theme
so technically speaking
minor shell
is it more common left? ive made various worlds and never seen in on the right.
small timber
so purely for flavour?
tired coral
so purely for flavour?
yeah
small timber
oh ok, I was confused by the suggestion
minor shell
interesting
tired coral
and you could even make it post eidolon wyrm content
small timber
I thought it was like, use the area to fight AEW or something
(but then it is locked behind AEW)
tired coral
and you make it literally a horror game
small timber
@toxic quartz boss suggestion is disallowed
tired coral
with frickin jumpscares and wild shit idk
toxic quartz
<@207521159384793088> boss suggestion is disallowed
oh ok
done
still a post moonlord slime boss would be nice tho
small timber
depends on the developers, boss is too big of a concept to come from suggestions
(though seeing their current plan, they probably will not add a new boss, since the next planned boss is the story final boss)
they might rework the current existing one, but probably not new one
tired coral
Yharim
minor shell
i wonder what happens after yharim
if anything
how tf are we gonna be able to kill xeroc? were but a small little terrarian
small timber
basically xeroc will intentionally scale down his power to fight us, but we won't be able to "actually kill him", something like that
tired coral
they might just add post Scal content and exclusive content to each of the elemental areas
like Abyss
Brimstone Crag etc
frail mantle
minor shell
oh so yharim already beat boss rush and fought xeroc?
tired coral
i made an enitre massive text wall concept about that too lol
minor shell
thats cool ash
tired coral
Bruh Xeroc be op
toxic quartz
storywise, it would, but content wise, you always can add more
tired coral
storywise, it would, but content wise, you always can add more
true
If im being completely honest rn, I feel like Abyss needs a big update for some reason
it jsut doesnt feels complete
warped tide
if by "fall out" through the world, you mean it penetrating all the way through ...
which has a literal fucking ocean of water that is From the abyss
because SOMEONE cough cough calamatis cough aimed a little too high and hit the area right below the abyss and created a crack
small timber
ya, and it really only happen if you use like permanent buffs from other mods
(or use way too many buffs), it is mostly technical implementation problem I think, worse case scenerio use a mod that uncapped buff slots
sand umbra
false
eternal escarp
yeah ive heared of examples
sand umbra
in fact, this is the main point of contention with sentries
sand umbra
there's no status effect tied to them
which means you can't dispel them like you can minions
which greatly reduces their versatility, as it means you can't easily resummon them without stallin' out the sentry timer (which is gettin' 5x longer in Labor of Love, so glhf with a 10-minute timer)
small timber
when you have potions buffs and minion buffs which one get cancelled first or just at random?
small timber
since I only really have that problem when I am specifically using permanent buffs from other mods
raven hare
my main gripe with it is when the boss
- hits you (bad)
- gives you a debuff
- debuff then removes all youre minions meaning youve now got to break youre momentum to re-summon them all
small timber
@gaunt tiger only 2 suggestions max per 24 hours (basically in suggestion-posting not more than 2 suggestions at once)
(and ya buff limit exist for a reason, though for summoner it is indeed an issue)
sand umbra
between the 50+ potion types you can use, the about 4-8 buffs common to boss arenas dependin' on whether or not you use stars in bottles and/or Cirrus' candles, your class furniture buff, room for status effects like Chaos State, Potion Sickness, and Boss Effects, and the status effect each unique summon takes up...
gaunt tiger
<@512439572097925141> only 2 suggestions max per 24 hours (basically in suggesti...
apologies, I didn't know, the buff limit suggestion was deleted
small timber
apologies, I didn't know, the buff limit suggestion was deleted
ya it is fine, just post it after your first suggestion in suggestion-posting entered voting
sand umbra
like
it's not difficult, by any stretch of the imagination, to reach the status cap of 22 in Calamity
gaunt tiger
ohm, I mean it's gone, I deleted it
small timber
the 2 suggestions system is mostly just to prevent drowning out other suggestions, it is not like "this suggestion is illegal" or anything like that
I think for most class (other than summoner) and stupid case like pets and light pets taking buff slots 22 is actually sufficient/balanced, it is mostly summoner that need fixing since buff slot is their damage
raven hare
like
it's **not** difficult, by any stretch of the imagination, to reach the sta...
and thats with light pets etc cancelled
ngl i forgor
no campfire either
timid talon
that's why potions like yharim's stimulant and cadence potion exist
and if you're using alch npc, then the battle combination and tank combination (vanilla) also exist
small timber
@magic verge can you recheck? as of right now I check in game and both recipe exist
beetle armor still requires turtle armor, just turtle armor have 2 recipes now
magic verge
small timber
(then I am not sure what is causing the problem there)
at least that is definitely not intended for beetle armor to have 1 recipe only, in fact I don't have the recipe to directly craft beetle from chlorophyte
magic verge
magic verge
(then I am not sure what is causing the problem there)
is it like this for everyone here?
just want to check before removing the suggestion and start troubleshooting
gaunt tiger
I deleted one, and then @small timber said I could re-add it
small timber
(no I mean re-add after your first suggestion enter voting)
small timber
#suggestions-posting message (basically after this one enter voting ya)
small timber
is it like this for everyone here?
I think mine should be correct since it aligned with changelog? though just to be sure can wait for other's answer
(and ya as you said, making chlorophyte directly into beetle while skipping turtle makes no sense/redundant, especially calamity don't often change things like this unless for the purpose of nerf/tier shift like fire gauntlet)
drowsy plank
can someone please flag the acidwood wall suggestion that one literally just got passed like yesterday and it's gonna be really annoying if it enters voting again
prime laurel
where can i find a good version of calamity mod for terraria 1.4?
golden tulip
theres been a ton of messages i assume someone already corrected the abyss sugg
(due to biome update etc)
fossil finch
no you see they are asking for the good version
fossil finch
theres been a ton of messages i assume someone already corrected the abyss sugg
theres so much shit honestly i don't even think someone properly adressed this
golden tulip
@tired coral
tired coral
Hey
golden tulip
next content update is going to be 1.4 stuff, then biome reworks
which means they already have plans for the abyss as well
granted its going to take a long time until that update is done byea
golden tulip
idk it might
but its going to get invalidated either way
they already have their own plans
tired coral
O
fossil finch
Love how you say that instead of telling them it's a dont
small timber
it is 'adding a boss', so yes it is a dont
fossil finch
Boss sugs are a don't
small timber
eye, brain, stomach of cthulhu
fossil finch
No
golden tulip
if you want more cthulhu family content try the Anarchy mod on 1.3 @hidden dagger
it has the Nose of Cthulhu
small timber
bloody tear is the new one, blood relic is the removed one, bloody tear I think can be crafted or drop from blood moon enemy
tbh they have to get astronomically unlucky for blood moon to not happen once in pre-HM let alone until post-ML, but the suggestion is not technically invalid
(it is just weird that the suggestion ask for the summon of an event item to be acquired from a completely difference source, like say goblin battle standard is crafted from random hell slime drops)
magic verge
not really
the suggestion is asking for a material thats not included in the own event, the same way the goblin standard is not crafted using materials from the goblin invasion
small timber
ya, though if it is up for me, I will just put the downside say if you didn't have blood orb the alternative recipe is harder/later into the game
say if bloody tear is craftable pre-HM if you have blood orb; but if you don't have blood orb, the crafting recipe will be like HM requiring charred ore, that is what I mean
magic verge
it can be crafted with, i dont know, blood water, which is accessible in hm
small timber
I need to check, I thought bloody tear recipe is pre-HM, since I assume it can still drop from blood moon enemies
small timber
(ok I missaw it), though bloody tear with blood orb recipe is super easy right now so I think the downside I talked above is justified
(though it is up to you if you want to put it in your suggestion, I just personally think having a downside if you dont want to craft with blood orb makes more sense)
trail pivot
maybe more blood orbs?
trail pivot
magic verge
i dont care about the recipe, if its expensive, or the progression stage
i just want what the suggestion said
small timber
ya I understand, since it can happen
magic verge
alternate craft recipe that doesnt involve blood orbs
ill leave the balancing to what the dev team considers appropiate
i just dont want blood moon to be completely rng dependant
and by consequence, bloodflare armor and such
grim tusk
@cedar lantern pretty sure that contradicts the direction we’re taking with whips, go read the FAQ on #mod-announcements
@hidden dagger boss suggestions are not allowed, heck you did not even add any reasoning which also puts an unnecessary nail in the coffin to your suggestion
stuck ocean
hopefully my suggestion hasnt been posted before, but it prob might've
small timber
(I assume this is probably more of an oversight and less of an intended feature)
fossil finch
Bruh
eternal escarp
what
golden tulip
thats actually a pretty cool sugg
eternal escarp
i mean
the idea is, decent
everything else isnt
@alpine herald you need to format your sugg correctly, and provide reasoning with it
also likely ditch the specification on "sharpening station"
terse sundial
I assume another mod changed the recipe, we did nothing to beetle armor
magic verge
hm, i see, ill remove the sug
any idea which mod could do so?
im only playing with the big ones like fargo
alpine herald
<@357581318047006721> you need to format your sugg correctly, and provide reason...
i have issues with english, wait a minute
eternal escarp
any idea which mod could do so?
shouldnt it be saying what mod made the recipe change
if you hover over it
magic verge
it doesnt
terse sundial
not it its a vanilla override
eternal escarp
ah i see
terse sundial
The only thing Calamity does to bettle armor is swap the material order for visual purposes
eternal escarp
also for your latest sugg, i'd add this aswell for your consistency sake ig
i mean it doesnt really matter here tbh
terse sundial
A lot of these recipes will get overhauled in the future
but it's a fine suggestion for now
alpine herald
<@357581318047006721> you need to format your sugg correctly, and provide reason...
now its good?
alpine herald
what is the best word to use you think?
drowsy plank
hopefully my suggestion hasnt been posted before, but it prob might've
you need to add reasoning just so the formatting is correct, but tbh this seems more like a bug then an intended feature considering you can't normally mirror during a fight
golden tulip
what is the best word to use you think?
idk i cant think of a proper word rn
alpine herald
despite the fact that it is incorrect, the meaning is clear?
golden tulip
well like i said i already agreed with the sugg before you changed anything about it so
should probably ask Blast seeing as he's the one who corrected you
alpine herald
i hope its good now
golden tulip
@eternal escarp
eternal escarp
formats correct yeah, i'd still get rid of the sharpening station specification myself but eh
works ig
@magic verge 2 suggestions per 24 hours
just keep one for later
small timber
And yharim stimulant not being a combination potion have a very important feature, that being it stack with others potion
The buffs it give while seen like minor is actually very good buffs, because it just buffs everything
magic verge
i know, its written there
"Turn Yharim's Stimulants into a combination potion
On an effort to battle the buff limit, Yharim's Stimulants joins Cadance Potion and Omniscience Potion to combine the effects of well feed, endurance, ironskin, swiftness and titan, instead of being a strange potion that provides small bonuses of potions that youre already using.
Logically, the effect of the potion would need to be severely buffed."
i aknowledge that it buffs other effects that you have, however, you could simply buff the potion effects to match the already present effect
just without 5 less buff slots
the same way cadance potion is better than the individual sum of the potion it combines
drowsy plank
that's a valid argument, and tbh it'd be nice to not have to get two stacks of those potions to have the full strength of the effect
small timber
5 less buff slots is a lot, considering the max is 22
Cadance while looks like a huge combination potion, realistically only combine 2 that matters (regen and lifeforce), omniscience combine 3, but none of them are combat stats
magic verge
as long as pets, debuffs, light pets, hp and mana sickness, and other arbitrary states are considered buffs, i wont mind getting 5 more buff slots
drowsy plank
you could always just move yharim's progression
magic verge
also you could remove well feed buff since 1.4 introduces different ones
and youll have the option to get the better well feed one
exquisitely feed or whatever its called
so that would be 4 more buff slots if that sounds better to you
also, the same way cadance potion "realistically" only combines 2 that matters, ironskin doesnt matter neither on yharims
so thats another excuse to buff it for later progression
instead of funny 4 less damage
small timber
Ok i actually never realise how broken yharim stim is
At this point your suggestion will actually end up nerfing the item, because yharim stim already provide better stats than its materials component while.only taking 1 slot
And you have the option to stack the material potion on top of that if you want to due to it not being combination potion
night jolt
what is the best word to use you think?
I think the best way to put it is to say something like "Because its really annoying to have to kill the Wall of Flesh multiple times just cause RNG screwed you over"
magic verge
this is further derrailing from the original suggestion
the point is to turn yharim into cadance
night jolt
Of all bosses to be pretty much required to farm, WoF is easily the worst one
magic verge
just make sure yharim provides a better buff than the sum of all its counterparts, and were fine
small timber
It already does
alpine herald
I think the best way to put it is to say something like "Because its really anno...
thanks
small timber
The only one that is not really is MS since it is actively being balanced, knockback in 90% of the case is a useless stat even against normal enemy because it knock them out of the projectile/true melee range
magic verge
also that ss is outdated
as you can see, dr is 4%
which is lower than the individual potion
same with movement speed
which is 7.5 compared with 15
small timber
I still dont like the fact that it will just stop any possibility of stacking potions if it is made a combination potion
eternal escarp
could just make it
have the buffs of the normal potions instead of being lesser of them all ig
small timber
And if I will be completely honest, another reason I dont particularly like the idea is because I think buff limit while clunky is still a limiting factor for player to not just stack whatever they want, which forced consideration and choice of the buffs they choose to use (only exception is summoner since it is actually a problem)
Freeing up 4/5 slots is a lot of leeway in thats sense, which is why I am fine with yharim.stim having lesser effect, since you can choose on the effect you decide to stack
Also while a bit late
@quaint kernel sorry but there is a limit of 2 suggestions per 24 hours period (basically no more than 2 suggestions in #suggestions-posting at once), please hold off your third suggestion until you first one gets into voting
ashen warren
@cerulean condor change it to say all of the throwing weapons which are now ranged tbh, its valid for all of em
cerulean condor
good point
golden tulip
good sugg
drowsy plank
@ashen warren @cerulean condor guys...
ashen warren
id argue that this wasnt what that rule was intended to mean as throwing doesnt exist anymore but clarification if it is would be nice
grim tusk
Pretty sure that sugg is invalid due to that rule
Also throwing internally still exists on tml
swift wharf
@tight hill Perforators and Hive drop ichor and cursed flames in hardmode
tight hill
Oh
nevermind lmao
I thought I remembered something being like that but I forgor about hive mind and perf
swift wharf
Nah it's fine
night jolt
I wouldn't be opposed to them dropping the souls in hardmode tbh
swift wharf
You can get souls of night by breaking altars
night jolt
Oh yeah
tight hill
Ok I replaced it with something that isn't already in the game for a different boss
drowsy plank
i dunno what the original sugg was but this is a good change i think
tight hill
i dunno what the original sugg was but this is a good change i think
It was to make eow and boc drop flames and ichor because i forgor it was already ingame
swift wharf
Farming souls of light is horrible and I agree with this
hardy dock
I had actually mentioned that idea a while ago when the port was still in progress and I meant to post the suggestion after it released 💀
crude geode
@cerulean condor this is a don’t
