suggestions-discussion

[drowsy plank]

you totally could've and it would've been based and i would've agreed

but yeah that's fair

[novel belfry]

its a dev item, i dont think its getting renamed anytime soon unless we asked the person who named the item if we could change it to extinction alloy

[drowsy plank]

shadowspec crafting into demonshade armor doesnt help much either
also i mean we

[rocky jasper]

"shadowspec is a bad name" doesn't explain, leaves

[frail mantle]

You did do a good job of creating an entire large paragraph out of “shadowspec sounds kinda wacky ngl”

[novel belfry]

and even then, that's unlikely

[drowsy plank]

could just do that

ThatTerrariaGuy/AstroKnight

[rocky jasper]

the other idea i had was "Umbralite" cause its still a play on Shadows, even though it doesnt sound much better and makes no sense as a SC drop

[dusty stirrup]

I mean the dev for said item is long gone and I don't think most people on the dev team rn even know about them

(It's kinda weird to have a bar as your dev item anyway and Demonshade will just become a SC set anywya)

[frail mantle]

Shadowspec isn’t Really related to SCal specifically I think

[rocky jasper]

so you're saying there's a chance?

well yeah, tis why i mentioned the Exo Prisms

[frail mantle]

It’s kinda just the dev material™️ with a name that sounded kinda cool at the time

[crude geode]

Classic Old Calamity

[dusty stirrup]

Yea

[frail mantle]

It’s also why nothing crafted with shadowspec bars has any sort of thematic consistency

[crude geode]

Endgame moment

[frail mantle]

You have metal gear rising reference #8 and hat in time reference and cryo sentry but cooler and I like. To read book

[novel belfry]

How bout this
Change the name for Shadowspec Bars
"Shadowspec" doesn't sound befiting an material created from an already endgame bar and the material drops from the current two final bosses, SCAL and the Exo Mechs. Shadowspec Bars should be renamed to something more befiting the endgame, perhaps something like Extinction Alloy, which is both thematically relevant to SCAL (The Void of Extinction, being created from regular Calamitas drops) and the Exo Mechs (Alloys are metals.)

[rocky jasper]

i like it

[novel belfry]

you can literally just copy it

i'm fine if you take credit, i tried to use your logic anyways

[rocky jasper]

better?

[novel belfry]

i suppose so

[drowsy plank]

looks good to me, and it's short, which typically benefits suggs to get more votes

[keen zealot]

I like shadowspec more ngl

[drowsy plank]

lol

[novel belfry]

so long ago that the wiki editors thought his actual name was Shadowspec, not Shadow

[gusty geode]

Just feel obligated to point out that that new sugg in voting misses the entire point of the Bone Key
Yes, killing the DG is meant to be near-impossible
And the Bone Key was added specifically for those crazy few who could do the impossible
The vanilla devs only added it after someone killed a DG for the first time
They knew exactly what they were doing

[gray nebula]

shadowspec sounds good wtf

[frosty trellis]

Extinction Alloy sounds way cooler and more fitting, I would agree there

[crude geode]

Shadowspec more like shadow pecs

[frosty trellis]

The core recipe skip while also still containing all the original materials I would love

[frosty trellis]

LOL

[gray nebula]

I only support shadowspec shadoomfies

[drowsy plank]

shadoomfies

[crude geode]

Shadowspec sounds cool but also what the fuck is the spec part of the name

[drowsy plank]

the bars are really small

[fossil finch]

The part that makes it feel like a material name

easy

Like when you slap inum in a mineral name

Or ioum or shit like that

Cringium

Ite classic too

Magnetite

[rocky jasper]

If the plan is to add any progression beyond SCAL and Exo Mechs, wouldn't you want to push Dev item crafting down the line anyway? so the whole point of Shadowspec as it currently is becomes moot.

[fossil finch]

Shadowspec still would drop from xeroc

(And yharim then noxus before him

[gray nebula]

yeah

shadowspec is just the "endgame material

[grim tusk]

Essentially: when yharim is released shadowspecs will be after him, when superbosses release it will be locked after them

[rocky jasper]

so its less of a rename, and just outright naming the post-SCAL crafting material.

[gray nebula]

what?

weh?

the post scal crafting material is the ashes of anihilation* innit

[rocky jasper]

thats what she drops

[dusty stirrup]

What is being argued here

[gray nebula]

wait no fk i forgot the name

[frail mantle]

yea cause it's her crafting material

[gray nebula]

well then its not outright naming anything

[rocky jasper]

but you use it with the Exo Prisms to craft Shadowspec currently

[frail mantle]

ashes of annihilation

[gray nebula]

yes

because shadowspec is the "post everything" material

[gray nebula]

so i dont get at all what this means

😭

[rocky jasper]

so whenever there is a boss after SCAL, that boss will drop Shadowspec or an item that crafts into Shadowspec, so the item crafted with Ashes of Annihilation, Auric Bars, and Exo Prisms will need a name.

[crude geode]

||/s|| If shadowspec is the post everything material why don’t you craft it with rock

[gray nebula]

no?

cuz

no item would be crafted with ashes of anihilation and exo prism

s

[dusty stirrup]

??????????

[gray nebula]

the items crafted from shadowspec are part of the shadowspec/dev item tier

so everything will be moved

so there wont be a need for a new item to take the place of shadowspec

[rocky jasper]

Whenever SCAL and Exo Mechs are no longer the final bosses, Shadowspec will still be Shadowspec, but at a later point of progression because it is the final endgame dev item crafting materials. So is the plan to completely remove the current crafting recipe that uses Auric, Ashes, and Exo Prisms and have them each have their own separate recipes? or will they still craft into a currently nameless bar that is not Shadowspec, because Shadowspec would be crafted with whatever the new endgame boss drops?

[gray nebula]

i mean besides shadowspec theres nothing else thats crafted with auric, ashes and exo prisms

?

[rocky jasper]

im talking about in the future, moving forward.

[gray nebula]

yes

and

there is no item, besides shadowspec bars

that are crafted with a combination of scals and draedons drops

so, when we move shadowspec to a future boss

we will not have the need, to put a new material

because everything crafted by shadowspec, will be tier shifted alongside the bar itself

[rocky jasper]

yes.

[gray nebula]

ok well then we agree on it

[rocky jasper]

so what will be crafted by SCAL and Dreadon drops after that Shadowspec tier shift tho?

[gray nebula]

nothing????

currently nothing is crafted by scal AND draedon besides shadowspec (which will go away)

[rocky jasper]

SCAL and Draedon wont drop anything?

[gray nebula]

when shadowspec is tier shifted, you will have scal's drops and enchantments from defeating scal, and the exo mech drops/exo weapon crafts from defeating draedon

which aren't shadowspec

but theres no need to add new items that can only be obtained after both are defeated

the only thing that'd likely be crafted from both of their drops would be idk, an item to summon the next boss

[rocky jasper]

that's what i was asking. those drops are just gonna be their own thing. Ashes will craft into SCAL stuff, Exo Prisms will craft into Draedon stuff, both use Auric or it becomes obsolete. the current crafting recipe for shadowspec just 100% goes away?

[fossil finch]

Ye

[rocky jasper]

awwwww

[gray nebula]

Well yes it 100% goes away because it ends up tier shifted lol

and auric isn't obsolete, it's used for pre scal/draedon items lol

[rocky jasper]

well, once you're post SCAL/draedon it would be obsolete. i guess the confusion was i was assuming shadowspec would get replaced with something that functions kinda like luminite. like how you can use just lunar fragments to craft some items, but you need to defeat all four pillars and the moon lord to craft the armor sets. you could craft some stuff with Ashes, and some stuff with Exo Prisms, but you would use both with Auric bars to make the next teir of items from Auric Tesla stuff.

and we know what they say about assuming...

[frail mantle]

auric bars are still used for miracle matter/draedon's forge

so they don't become completely obsolete after Draedon

[fossil finch]

blah blah none of this convo matters more content will exist in auric tier eventually as content that is not a boss™️ gets added k thanks bye

Also materials getting obsolete with time is normal

You don't really go around using platinum late game (quirky calamity recipes don't count

(I'm looking at you silva armor

[hot zephyr]

that's it

every bar goes into auric now

[rocky jasper]

bet, now we can craft Drill Containment Unit 2.0. Its just a Crystyl Crusher that you ride like a witches broom.

[swift wharf]

that one thorium material moment

[gray nebula]

tell that to ppl suggesting to add recipes with (prehm ore like wulfrum) late game

🤓

[worn salmon]

new material: angry wulfrum

[steel wedge]

auric and shadowspec toilet mimics

[worn salmon]

true

[steel wedge]

i wouldn't mind ore slimes of either though in the future

soon.png 2026

[gray nebula]

i would

ore slimes are boring as hell

[worn salmon]

i cant wait for a future ore mob to be a cosmog and you reverse bong it to extract the materials

[half sage]

^

damn

blocked me

[worn salmon]

i gotchu there

[half sage]

but yea ore slimes boring

[worn salmon]

i agree too

honestly

[steel wedge]

well

[worn salmon]

bars are kinda boring

change my mind

[steel wedge]

if the calamity ores worked like chlorophyte

probably wouldn't even need ore slimes

afaik ore is finite and you just go to a new world or something to blow up chicken nugget to get more auric or something?

if you need it for your toilets

[worn salmon]

i hope we get more unique materials instead of boring bars

[steel wedge]

toilets are the real endgame

[gray nebula]

bars are fine tho

ore slimes are z

[worn salmon]

i think seeing them so much just washed any meaning for them for me lol

idk theyre mostly just rectangles and meh

not all are bad

i like scoria

and life alloy is sweet

[steel wedge]

what do you want then

spheres?

decahedron or icosahedron?

[worn salmon]

i mean

[steel wedge]

just curious

[worn salmon]

i really liked the ideas of ashes of Annihilation, exo prisms, plagued plating, solar veils, and meld
because they were not metallic bars

[steel wedge]

oh

it's ok

yharim is going to be one giant metallic bar

vent your dislike of bars on him

[worn salmon]

im getting off channel topic again

[vocal grotto]

So true!

[night jolt]

BRUH

[ruby plover]

@violet surge no references for the sake of references, read the document in pins about how to make proper suggestions

[night jolt]

Do people even read the suggestion guidelines?

[violet surge]

i didnt know there were any

[gray nebula]

• im sure theres a hollow knight in terrari mod

😭

[swift wharf]

joost has the nails

[violet surge]

i think hollow knight is the perfect game to crossover and the hollow knight would fit really well

[night jolt]

But why in the Calamity mod?

[ruby plover]

you'd need more reasoning than "it would be cool" tho

[violet surge]

calamity is hard

[night jolt]

Also, even if it weren't just a reference for the sake of a reference, its also a suggestion to add something very specific, which is a no go

[violet surge]

my dreams are crushed 😦

[night jolt]

Ah yes, Calamity should port the entirety of Dark Souls, that would be fitting

[half sage]

also boss suggestion

[primal cairn]

Hollow knight is the only other hard game in existence (it is not even hard)

[night jolt]

Also its an NPC suggestion

[violet surge]

its hard to get godseekers ending

[fossil bronze]

calamit wouldn't fit with dark souls, calamity is actually good

[night jolt]

Most reasonable Calamity Fan suggestion

[violet surge]

how about just adding pure nail as a true melee weapon?

a very small reference

[night jolt]

Thats a specific item suggestion

For the sake of a reference

[swift wharf]

If you want the nails, download Joost Mod

[violet surge]

i only want pure nail

[swift wharf]

It has that

[night jolt]

Hollow Knight is awesome, but theres no reason it in particular should be referenced in Calamity

[violet surge]

😦

[eternal escarp]

i mean theres already 1 reference iirc

[violet surge]

i thought that was my more reasonable suggestion idea

[eternal escarp]

but yes

[night jolt]

Least entitled Calamity fan

[swift wharf]

🤨

[night jolt]

Specific items were only for patrons, and were retired a while ago IIRC

[violet surge]

my other idea was adding the cuphead airplane as a mount and add the devil or king dice as a boss

[eternal escarp]

no

[primal cairn]

Hollow knight is mid anyways ngl even if this suggestion didn’t break multiple guidelines I think the calamity devs would probably be better off referencing the properties they enjoy

[night jolt]

please just stop lol

[swift wharf]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1OA3GxJ4w4QA4pCkngwt8kqW8Qq18U5KOCUJEucUS8ck/edit?usp=sharing

[eternal escarp]

please just read the Dont document

[night jolt]

Wrong + L + Ratio

[eternal escarp]

that

[violet surge]

chill i was just saying my less reasonable idea

[swift wharf]

It's a harmless suggestion overall, no need overreact over this

[night jolt]

Suggestions isn't for adding specific items, its for mainly for balancing

[dusty stirrup]

I think it would be cool if there were a reference to the medias I like

[violet surge]

i am going to college next fall and im majoring in software engineering so maybe i can learn to make my own mods

maybe i should as redigit to get that as a crossover in the main game

[primal cairn]

That’s great you do you

[gray nebula]

@inland saddle

[night jolt]

Funnily enough, there was a specific Hollow Knight reference, but it got removed

[gray nebula]

(i mean guidelight of oblivion still exists doesnt it)

so does that one darksun summon

[night jolt]

Never heard of those, I was thinking of "Pure Mode" or whatever it was called

[violet surge]

Pure nail is the strongest nail in hollow knight

[night jolt]

I know Hollow Knight, look at my PFP

[ruby plover]

was mantis scythe mentioned yet

[violet surge]

My PFP is a duck holding a nail

[night jolt]

Mantis Scythe?

[violet surge]

Mantis Scythe?

[fossil bronze]

astral scythe i think

[gray nebula]

yea

and irt does the same slash as the mantis in queens gardens

[ruby plover]

oop yea forgor the name 💀
astral scythe and the astral mantis thingies have those slashies

[night jolt]

neat

[inland saddle]

Ping as needed because I am not reading everything lol

[gray nebula]

what the Fuck

ùleaks

[violet surge]

That would be awesome

[inland saddle]

It’s my patreon item

So it will be awesome eventually

[violet surge]

Omg

When!!!

[unique vector]

looekad

[inland saddle]

Whenever they get around to it

But tbh

I might just go ahead and program it myself

Minus the visuals

To hopefully maybe possibly speed up the process

[violet surge]

I wish they would hurry

[inland saddle]

I mean they’ve got a lot on their plate atm

[violet surge]

How long would it take to add?

Like a day of work?

[ruby plover]

just cos one thing would take a tiny amount of time to add doesnt mean it will be added in that amount of time

there's other things that the devs will prolly work on first, like. you know. porting

[violet surge]

What if I paid them 20 dollars?

To make them prioritize it

[ruby plover]

are you actually considering that

[violet surge]

Well I have a visa gift card

I doubt I’ll use it

I never use gift cards

[inland saddle]

Don’t

I’ll just program it myself tbh

[ruby plover]

well, regardless
it costs absolutely nothing to just wait my guy

[violet surge]

Yeah

But cool weapon

[inland saddle]

And I know Iban and all the other sprinters are probably pretty busy but at least it’ll be ready for whenever they do get to it

[violet surge]

Ok

That would be the coolest weapon in the game once added

Very good idea

Way better than plain boring nail idea I have

[fringe notch]

thats not going to happen

[crude geode]

@hollow shell future content

[hollow shell]

@novel trellis Calamity isn't in 1.4 yet

You can save this suggestion for when we officially port

[novel trellis]

aw.

thats fair

[hollow shell]

You shouldn't have to wait long, hopefully

[novel trellis]

lets hope not!

[small timber]

@ashen warren there is like, a REALLY big reason why heart statutes is not craftable, because it is literally one of the most overpowered item in the game

[muted osprey]

also wrong formatting lol!

[small timber]

compare to like, cosmetic, of most other statutes, or at the very least dont matter outside of mob farming

[ashen warren]

compared to the nurse i can't see how heart statues are broken.

and honestly 90+% of the players already use mods to buy them from npcs so why not add a way to craft them? something like 100 stones and 10 heart crystals

[hollow shell]

(We have a nerf for the nurse)

(Maybe more than one? Can't remember at this point)

[muted osprey]

20 health every 2 seconds is kind of sort of alot

[small timber]

3 context here:

1. If the player choose to abuse nurse it is their freedom (basically), and Nurse can be killed by bosses midfight (while heart statue is invincible)
2. On Death (or Malice Mode), Nurse do not work in boss fight, but heart statue still does
3. when "External mods" is involved, player can do whatever they want, even Cheat Sheet is an external mods, Calamity basically balance around itself

[muted osprey]

and it ignores debuffs

[hollow shell]

Here is our Nurse nerf btw

Along with what XP said, in Death+ she is outright disabled during boss fights

[fringe notch]

Place like 20 statues and boom 400hp, unless it doesn't work as I 'member

[crude geode]

Pretty sure that all statues have a limit

Including heart ones

3 at once in a small area, 2 seconds between them

[ashen warren]

I mean, it's just a price nerf, her effectiveness is still the exact same. and in calamity you can get like 1 plat per minute with the unlimited boss summons.

and i didn't know about the death+ change, that's nice

[ashen warren]

there is a limit, 3 hearts every few secs

[fringe notch]

Ah

Still, that's 60 health

[small timber]

^

[ashen warren]

yeah i agree with all your points

deleted my sugg

[eternal escarp]

i hate the reddit
what does this recent sugg even solve?

easier difficulties also deal less damage

why does the defense and dr also need to scale

[small timber]

(tbh the clarification where boss damage will also be reduced should be like, tag in the changelog just below the DR nerf), but ya, the suggestion do not make sense

[eternal escarp]

im not even going to bother really pinging them, because theres 0% this would pass even when reaching dev

[cobalt pewter]

@dry scaffold pretty specific of a sugg

refer to pins

[dry scaffold]

What do you mean?

[small timber]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/859804429536198676.gif?size=96&quality=lossless

(but ya, basically you cannot create suggstion that is specific to the point that the developers have no wiggling room, the pinned document call "Suggestions Don't" will provide a general idea of what type of suggestion is not allowed)

especially that a major class-wide mechanic change will be super impactful and massively affect class balance (+ you need to provide more reasoning other than "it will be interesting")

[fringe notch]

@dry scaffold that's pretty much just giving mage some summoner weapons

[dry scaffold]

Ok,got it

Sorry

[dry scaffold]

https://tenor.com/view/well-yes-but-actually-no-well-yes-no-yes-yes-no-gif-13736934

[keen zealot]

@dry scaffold mana isn't supposed to be useful to summoners

ultimately this is pointless

since you're just creating items to service a niche that doesn't exist

[cobalt heath]

also wrong format

[thin hill]

Fucking

Super minions

Also formatting wrong

[cobalt heath]

idk why the bot didn't detect the format issue

[thin hill]

Yeah

I think it just thought the first part is the title

Since he distanced it

[cobalt heath]

should we ping a mod?

[thin hill]

Uh

Not sure

[cobalt heath]

sadge there is no usual sugg mods online

@elder mist #suggestions-posting message the sug has a format issue, there is no tittle and its not highlited

[elder mist]

guh..

lemme see

i have a feeling asking for a new class / subclass is in the same range as asking for a specific weapon / item no?

[cobalt heath]

it has a format issue anyways so you could count it as a sis

[elder mist]

jah

do i just delete the message or do i add a reaction

ill leave it at a reaction

then a mod more suited for da situation can judge

[frail mantle]

just a reaction works

the bot'll delete it tomorrow

[dry scaffold]

I can delete it,if you want...

[fossil finch]

@lyric depot mode conditional nerfs are a bad idea because calamity balances around rev anyways so it just upsets the balance of lower modes further

A lot of this type of changes used to exist but they were removed for this exact reason

[eternal escarp]

fyi that was not a format issue, the sugg did have a title and it doesnt need to be bolded

but yes what ein said still justifies an exclaim

if it had a format issue, itd be automatically marked with 🗜️

[cobalt heath]

ein is studying the sugg modding

we need a 2nd rover

[night jolt]

Reddit discovered the changelog, and they hated it so much they immediately went to put all their suggestions in

[unique vector]

@lyric depot

basically uhh tl;dr pls dont suggest things about stuff that isnt in a public release yet

also your suggestion lays out different alternatives but it doesnt really explain why you want the DR changes to be different

it sounds more like a rant/rambling than actually outlining a problem and solutions

gonna add an exclamation to it

feel free to suggest a revised version of this after the update is out and you’ve experimented with the DR changes yourself

[cobalt heath]

pinkle can we still ask you to exlaim things or do you just do it at random

[hexed hamlet]

the elephant

the snow wall elephant

:atone:

[cobalt heath]

oh god not another reddit sug

[lyric depot]

Sorry for the late explanation, I’m speaking for the behalf of people who don’t like the dr nerf or tank people in general. Im sure that there’s something I’m unaware of but It’s purely just a random suggestion

[night jolt]

That moment when 4 consecutive tagged suggestions

[cobalt heath]

there was a reddit outrage after the new patch notes

thats why we called it a reddit sug

[lyric depot]

Yeah

[night jolt]

Well those people are wrong, DR is fucking broken and the nerf is totally deserved

[cobalt heath]

and the reddits don't understand that devs balance around rev, aka it is supposed to be difficult-ish

[lyric depot]

Maybe not, like the some bosses do a fuckton of damage and only manage around 3-5 hits

[cobalt heath]

aka

get gud

[lyric depot]

That explains it

Oh yeah that’s somewhat right

[granite valve]

Does anyone know any update on calamity being compatible with V1.4

[cobalt heath]

and fabsol doesn't want face tanking to be that good as what it is now

[cobalt heath]

nope

[granite valve]

L

[cobalt heath]

it will come when it will come

we had a long as convo about the face tanking about 2 weeks ago in 1.4 discussion

you can atm tank 70% w the correct items of fucking scal

[small timber]

One context that is completely missed is the lead.dev of Calamity said they will also nerf damage of some bosses alongside the DR nerf

And yes, DR and defense in general is pretty.broken right now

[cobalt heath]

wait where did ossa say that

[lyric depot]

I guess you could introduce like a block mechanic? I know there’s a parry system but can there still be more blocking mechanics in the game?

[cobalt heath]

nah

that was also shot down

[lyric depot]

Oh

[cobalt heath]

someone did ask about it from i think iban and he said that the animations alone would be so much work

[lyric depot]

shield blocking is a thing

[small timber]

Ok i misremembered, it is one of the main beta tester

[frozen hornet]

It's not "fucking broken", it's just a little too strong

to the point that you can almost reach the cap with a balanced loadout

It's no spam click murasama or pre 1.5 skyfin

[gray nebula]

idk why i would say tja

[unique vector]

iban sus

[unique vector]

i can explain anythingthat isnt a future spoiler or outside my knowledge lol

[cobalt heath]

not explain

exlaim

[unique vector]

oh

[cobalt heath]

aka the sus sug thing

[unique vector]

normally i dont follow suggs to much to properly know whats bad or not but sure

[cobalt heath]

thank you

[lyric depot]

People say it’s gonna affect the core of the blood god, but how much would it really affect

[cobalt heath]

cause atm rover is hard spammed on this

[cobalt heath]

if i remember correctly the guy was pissing you off and you said that the animations would be painfull to do

and the systems on code around it

[small timber]

Ya core of the blood god is the only one that I seriously think gonna be unusable if they dont buff it, but the beta tester seems to disagree

[unique vector]

i wouldnt know how it affects cotbg

[lyric depot]

They have the half damage reduction right? It’s not totally useless

[unique vector]

you’d have to ask a tester yea

[small timber]

If they dont change anything according to chaneglog, its effect is like, 10% max hp, (10/15%?) Healing potion effect, half (there is a cap) enemy contact damage on a CD, and thats it?

[lyric depot]

Pretty sure

[gray nebula]

only thing would b em ore so that itd ruin the uniqueness of having it only on specific weapons

cough point b lank shots cough cough

[small timber]

If the contact damage is always useful then it is different, but the thing is it is post-DoG, it is usable against yharon but scal/draedon is no contact bosses, or at least theor main threat is not contact

Instead of having a good accessory with niche effect, it is just a niche accessory now

[cobalt heath]

btw amaizing work on the aerialite redesing, keep it up

[fossil finch]

The conclusion is thay mmmm armchair game designing i think!

reddit cal peeps have gaslit themselves into thinking tanking sucks after defense damage was added except someone tanked scal

[small timber]

I mean... Berzerk thanatos also has like, literal ocean of laser, contact is not exactly the main concern

[fossil finch]

shotout to funny cosmilite shield for being able to give you like 60 defense alone too thanks to the buffs to defensive equipment

[cobalt heath]

they saw the nerfs and thought oh that so bad without actually hearing the testers on actual impact

[lyric depot]

Make melee squishy like all the other classes. Very nice

[fossil finch]

Peeps at reddit dislike something in changelogs all the time so I'm not surprised lol

[fossil finch]

Not true

To begin with, defensive accs on calamity have never been class specific

[frozen hornet]

DR isn't the only thing making melee tanky

[fossil finch]

To continue with, no this isn't "making melee squishy"

[frozen hornet]

Jesus christ I've said this to 6 different people

[small timber]

The current tank situation is even summoner is tanky, as in, with the correct build you can facetank 60% of scal as summoner

[fossil finch]

Melee having too much tankyness is a problem to begin with

[small timber]

I always think they buff defense value (just defense, not DR) by so much it is approaching actual broken level now

[unique vector]

hi

[fossil finch]

True melee shouldn't be designed around tanking like reddit believes it should be

[unique vector]

ik im not a mod anymore

but do NOT start shittalking ppl

[frozen hornet]

It's not like DR is the only stat to dictate if a build is tanky or not

[unique vector]

ur not any better for calling ppl shitters and being a toxic asshat

stop it

[frozen hornet]

You have defense, regen and health

and potion heals

And of course DR

[unique vector]

be civil and respectful idc who you’re talking to

[frozen hornet]

Nerfing one part of the 5 doesn't make it suddenly bad

[lyric depot]

Looks like I sparked some heat, that’s unfortunate

[unique vector]

i mean you arent helping with ur offhanded comments lol

but sure go off

in any case im keeping your sugg exclaimed because its still asking to change something that isnt ingame yet

[lyric depot]

Yah, I’m just a random guy here

[unique vector]

once ppl have a few days to adjust to the changes then they can complain all they want

[lyric depot]

I’ll take my leave

Sorry for the intrusion

[unique vector]

you’re good

[cobalt heath]

i would like to hate on the new sug but low key the idea is good

[glossy marten]

wym

[drowsy plank]

it def has potential, having armor polish, or even a split line from armor polish, maybe even the occult skull crown line could have something related to it? i could certainly think of a few lacking accessories that could benefit from having interactions with def damage

[glossy marten]

ikr

a seperate upgrade for armour bracing would be based tho

thorium has one too I think lol

[drowsy plank]

was thinking you could probably mix it with some of the lacking random bone related accessories like archaic powder and the lines, since the bracing has connections to the dungeon and skeletons, but that's getting into SiS territory

[frozen hornet]

I personally think draeheart should stay as the single accessory that modifies defense damage in any way

[glossy marten]

why tho

it's borderline postgame

[frozen hornet]

idk I guess it makes it more meaningful

[cobalt heath]

eh idk

[glossy marten]

so you only really get to use it for boss rush meaningfully

scal too if you kill her second

[cobalt heath]

if the system exists i would like to use it more videly

[frozen hornet]

No other tank accessory in the game does it then there's this thing you get from one of the final bosses

[cobalt heath]

and the reductions could be relatively little amountts

[glossy marten]

yeah but like that isn't the main reason people use the item

[glossy marten]

yeah I'm not saying do the 50% thing

like maybe even 10%

[cobalt heath]

like 10% max

[drowsy plank]

it just makes draeheart shit because "oh it's the def damage one we can't change it too much" and at the point it's at the effect isnt even very good

[cobalt heath]

you defo have my vote

[glossy marten]

ty

[glossy marten]

I'd love a draeheart rework tbh

it's not bad per se it's just pointless

at that stage of the game

I know they're going for a senator armstrong type deal but defense damage really doesn't have anything to do with that

[frozen hornet]

Eventually there'll be more bosses after drae

[drowsy plank]

yeah, boss rush removes the arena restrictions, which are the bosses where something like def damage matters the most because you're more likely to get hit by contact damage that inflicts it in the forst place

[glossy marten]

well we're not living in eventually lol

we're living in right now

[cobalt heath]

did you mention METAL GEAR RISING?

[glossy marten]

I mean that's what draeheart is supposed to be

[frozen hornet]

it's referencing armstrong's stand-still-while-healing thing where he... stands still

and he heals

[cobalt heath]

Standiing heeere, I reaaaliseee, you are just like meee.....

[glossy marten]

yes but defense dmg ain't got nothing to do with that

the regen I get ofc

[frozen hornet]

DD forces you to dodge, halving dd means you don't have to dodge as much

meaning you can face tank again

If it didn't have the halved DD it would probably suck

And the stand-still isn't that hard to do with exo chair since you can just stop right then and there

[glossy marten]

I get that

[hearty yew]

I'm slow to the punch but

We've internally considered renaming shadowspec at least twice

So it's something on our radar

The compromise was that it got its "lore friendly" tooltip but we didn't change the name

[glossy marten]

what is shadowspec supposed to mean?

[hearty yew]

nothing it's some dude's name check the wiki

[glossy marten]

ah

[hearty yew]

That bar itself is technically a dev item

for some really really old dev

[cobalt heath]

the hole scal themeing needs renameing

cause supreme calamitas is cringe lets be honest (the name)

[hearty yew]

bruh

in this very channel no less, we've discussed renaming both scal and yharon

[cobalt heath]

i do remember

[hearty yew]

I just fully reworked DH yesterday

@glossy marten

[frozen hornet]

dam

What's it do now

[hearty yew]

it still reduces defense damage by 50%

[glossy marten]

that's cool

[cobalt heath]

damm

[glossy marten]

I stand by my suggestion tho I think dd reduction is something we need more of tbh

not up to me ultimately anyway

[cobalt heath]

true

they fit

but i hate the boss name

but I see the dev point where the rename is hard due to scal and cal being such stuck as terms

[hearty yew]

1 - Rev+: Replaces adrenaline with nanomachines
2 - Normal/Expert: gives you adrenaline nanomachines
3 - Reduces defense damage by 50%
4 - 48 defense
5 - Nanomachines aren't lost on taking damage. Instead they stop generating for 4 seconds
6 - When Nanomachines meter is full, press Adrenaline key to heal for 240 over 2 seconds
7 - While healing, wings and mounts are disabled, your movement is crippled and you fall like a stone

[glossy marten]

damn

spoiler pog??

[glossy marten]

also this is insanely cool

[hearty yew]

Same problem with the difficulty Rev itself. It's less than optimal but it's too cemented.

[glossy marten]

will nanomachines bar look different?

[hearty yew]

No, it looks the same in the UI. It just says nano machines instead of adrenaline.

[glossy marten]

ah

[violet surge]

I hate the adrenaline and rage mechanics, I wish the game didn’t have them and instead balanced better to make up for them not in the game

[glossy marten]

that's just you chief

[hearty yew]

Play on Expert

[glossy marten]

yeah fr

[hearty yew]

Shattered Community adds rage on Normal and Expert now

So that you can use the items full power

[cobalt heath]

scals new name could use the word servant in some way

[glossy marten]

that's cool

[frozen hornet]

have you considered naming it something other than nanomachines

[cobalt heath]

cause she is a servant off sorts

[hearty yew]

No.

[glossy marten]

uh oh it shortens to ss

[frozen hornet]

booh

[hearty yew]

That is lore inaccurate.

[cobalt heath]

well she is a servant to yharims command until we free her

[glossy marten]

we need more senator armstrong references in game on goddd

[frozen hornet]

Nothing wrong with the name but I guess it just sounds too reference-y for me

[hearty yew]

Then complain about the difficulty name, that's a way bigger problem

[frozen hornet]

Will it get a custom bar too?

[hearty yew]

...

[frozen hornet]

I'm blind

[hearty yew]

It's ok we all are sometimes

[violet surge]

Honestly I just wish some cool items would be added

[frozen hornet]

wait for 2.0 then

[glossy marten]

I mean to say calamity doesn't have cool items already is a lie

ark line my beloved

[violet surge]

It does but not the one I want

[cobalt heath]

is there a there the quote off ''Nanomachines, son!'' in the heart

[glossy marten]

yes

in the tooltip

[frozen hornet]

I know of at least two cool reworks coming

[cobalt heath]

perfect

[hearty yew]

The tooltip still has this quote even with the rework, yes.

[violet surge]

I wish calamity would add some items I think would be good

[frozen hornet]

it's not exactly their job to please you and only you is it

[hearty yew]

he's allowed to wish

[frozen hornet]

Fair

[hearty yew]

I'm curious what he thinks a good item is tho

[violet surge]

Ok

I have some ideas

[cobalt heath]

oh boi

[violet surge]

I think a mount that is the airplane in cuphead would be awesome

[steel wedge]

gaming chair

[frozen hornet]

So your idea of a good item is a blatant reference?

[violet surge]

Also the hollow nail someone paid to be added will be awesome but idk when that will be added

[violet surge]

It would be cool though

[cobalt heath]

tru

[violet surge]

Also the hollow knight as a boss

[cobalt heath]

and there goes the good idea

out of the window

[violet surge]

And also the smoke dash as an accessory from cuphead

[still zodiac]

a lot of things would be cool but it doesn't justify them existing if it's the only reason

[frozen hornet]

I mean yeah but at some point the mod just becomes full of references

[night jolt]

Bruh

[violet surge]

People would enjoy them and it make the game better

[frail mantle]

the mod is already full of references

too many, even

[frozen hornet]

I know that

[still zodiac]

more isn't always better

[frail mantle]

dreaded mgr brainrot

[night jolt]

You can say that about literally any new content tho

There are people who would pop off if they added a Poop bar that allows you to shit on bosses

[frozen hornet]

Something like borderlands guns at least aren't too obvious since not a lot of people know about them

[hearty yew]

There is actually a 1.3 mod which adds the "poopshit cannon" which is boss rush viable

iirc

as a joke

[violet surge]

I guess I’m just a huge fan of hollow knight and cuphead and would like a cool crossover update can just be a boss and a couple of items

[frozen hornet]

Terror

[gray nebula]

i mean just ask for a mod to b e made for indie game references

;

😭

insteado f wishing for calamity to have em lol

[unique vector]

ozz in da sugg disc chat

[frozen hornet]

truee

[unique vector]

no way

[night jolt]

Then install a Hollow Knihgt or Cuphead mod

[hearty yew]

@unique vector i expected you to tell me to stop talking in dev server

ngl

[glossy marten]

or better yet jsut make one lol

[violet surge]

Are there some? And do they balance with calamity?

[unique vector]

why would i do that

[hearty yew]

@violet surge my honest response to this?

We have too many Calamity things to add and our time and motivation is spread thin as it is. We don't have the resources to also add every cool reference we could, we're too busy making Calamity itself lol

[night jolt]

Its not the job for the Calamity devs to arbitrarily insert references to other indie games and insert a new boss that wouldn't fit in the lore cause its just a reference

[hearty yew]

This is why SIS are banned and why we closed patreon item donations.

We basically do not have time to add anything other than Calamity's own content anymore.

[violet surge]

Dang

[night jolt]

I don't want to be rude, but this comes across as extremely entitled

[frail mantle]

calamity development is just a motivation resource management game

[violet surge]

It’s not entitled to at least try asking to get content everyone can enjoy

[gray nebula]

(its entitled)

(like even if unintentionally)

[violet surge]

Do you guys have a giant list of stuff you want to add to calamity?

[cobalt heath]

and you have to account that he biggest updates in calamity are next on line

[gray nebula]

(even your behaviour, with asking repeatedly "when will the pure nail be added" and stuff)

(like broh just wait its ok

(making me regret pinging nycro in the first place

[cobalt heath]

if the time management even now is bad, imagine it later on

[night jolt]

Random Hollow Knihgt and Cuphead references are far below the expansion to the Astral Infection, the Yharim update, blancing, porting to 1.4, pretty much everything

[hearty yew]

Actually yes, my todo list has over 100 lines.

[cobalt heath]

i just want yharim like everyone else

[violet surge]

Hollow nail is someone’s paid item, and I asked a couple of times. I understand if it will take forever I was wondering where it fell on their priority list

[cobalt heath]

and lore

[gray nebula]

bro u asked like thrice

[violet surge]

I don’t even know what yharim is

[gray nebula]

[cobalt heath]

[gray nebula]

man's not a true calamity fan

[hearty yew]

To be fair, he's not in the game.

In any capacity.

So I don't blame him.

[night jolt]

Its not even an item you paid for, its just you despeartely wanting a reference to a game you played that you're already gonna get, just give it some time

[violet surge]

I am new to calamity I am playing through it

[hearty yew]

Also, isn't there already a mod which adds a HK nail as a melee weapon?

[gray nebula]

so its just a token "big mod" for references to be stuffed into.. zamn

but yeah anyways making Calamity cooler is more important than making calamity not calamity

[violet surge]

Yes I know I was just wondering if they know if it might take 6 months or even 2 years

[frozen hornet]

I'm more eager for the awesome spider tank item but you don't see me asking around twice a day

[hearty yew]

closer to 2 years

[glossy marten]

auric tesla armour..?

[hearty yew]

intentionally had its yharim style helmet removed

[frozen hornet]

That doesn't mention yharim at all

[hearty yew]

😎

[glossy marten]

dang

outplayed by the devs yet again

[violet surge]

That sounds pretty sweet I can’t wait too

[cobalt heath]

I will have starting med when yharim comes

[night jolt]

This chat is not for suggesting prioritzing some random new content, its for blance above everything else

[lucid flare]

i mean its 1 weapon it defintely won't take that long

[cobalt heath]

them i will be a boomer

[gray nebula]

well its got a sprite at least

[hearty yew]

this chat is where I go to comment about suggestions when I see them and people should know some dev-specific stuff about them

anything else that happens here idc

[violet surge]

I wasn’t suggesting it be prioritized here, just wanted to know where it fell on the list

[gray nebula]

also jax made most of those (late) reply

[glossy marten]

yharim flexing his full set of wulfrum armour under his auric tesla vanity

[night jolt]

If you're a Hollow Knight fan, you should already have 6000X the patience of everyone else

[cobalt heath]

yharim is john wulfrum

[lucid flare]

john yharim

[violet surge]

I wish hollow knight had as good of mods as terraria

[cobalt heath]

terrarias modding is way more establishded

[unique vector]

we have 3 different giant to-dos and a giant trello board with 500+ items on it

lols

[violet surge]

Wow

[unique vector]

content creep brainrot

[cobalt heath]

brim, astral underground and sunken sea?

[unique vector]

even beyond that

[hearty yew]

we actively have to constantly remove stuff from our todos

[violet surge]

How long does it take per item? Also how can terraria handle adding this never ending content?

[hearty yew]

we have to throw out the bad ideas and only keep the good ones

[unique vector]

a ton of niche things like sprites or balancing or weapon reworks

ton of other things like new mechanics

[hearty yew]

the mod loader supports adding 60k items, we are not ever going to get anywhere close to that

don't worry about that

[cobalt heath]

and now that porting has been pain

[unique vector]

ton of post-biome update plans

so much

so many

i will be out of college before calamity officially finishes its main content

like, genuinely

[unique vector]

it depends on a dev being motivated enough to program it and/or have it sprited

and when we want to implement it

[cobalt heath]

i hope you guys slow down on post game

[violet surge]

My first year of college is next year I’m going into software engineering

[unique vector]

i donttttttttt think we're adding anything post-game for a while

but i could be wrong!

and nice

[cobalt heath]

4 years atleast

[unique vector]

[hearty yew]

what classifies as "post game"?

[cobalt heath]

superbosses

to me

[hearty yew]

our main goals are to flesh out the Calamity biomes and add post ML non-boss content

oh yeah

no superbosses

not until after yharim is in

and that's the last thing on the main game todo list

[cobalt heath]

is dogs distortion world before superbosses

[hearty yew]

yes

[violet surge]

How did you even come up with calamity lore

[cobalt heath]

idk

ask mrrp

[unique vector]

uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

[cobalt heath]

and the lore at the start was funny

[unique vector]

early cal lore was just there to justify the game content

current cal lore is going throuhg second stage puberty

[violet surge]

Hmm

[cobalt heath]

its like confused about its identity but starting to form it

wait no thats 1st stage

[steel wedge]

the real lore is you're going to murder everyone and their family for sweet sweet loot

[cobalt heath]

2nd is that it has found a way to define itself but it still looks on different options and the specifics

aka around the human age of 16-17

[grave zinc]

@small timber - Your suggestion has received an updated status!

[Add Alternative Crafting Recipe To Allow Chlorophyte Armor To Be Crafted Into Their Turtle, Spectre and Shroomite Counterpart]

It has been voted upon, and the devs decided it would be a good idea to implement it. This doesn't guarantee implementation, as plans may change/alternate plans may be made, but it does highly improve chances!
You can check out your suggestion again here: #suggestions-voting message

@small timber - Your suggestion has received an updated status!

[Add Alternative Crafting Recipe To Allow Chlorophyte Armor To Be Crafted Into Their Turtle, Spectre and Shroomite Counterpart]

It has officially been implemented into the game, and will be available in the next update!
You can check out your suggestion again here: #suggestions-voting message

[gray nebula]

speed run

[terse sundial]

yep

[night jolt]

So Chlorophyte armor is officially usable (unless your playing melee lol)

[grave zinc]

@weary kestrel - Your suggestion has received an updated status!

[Add pocket mirror into ankh shield (or upgrades) recipe]

It has officially been implemented into the game, and will be available in the next update!
You can check out your suggestion again here: #suggestions-voting message

[keen zealot]

after finishing with the port, what's the next biome on the list

or is it an all at once situation

[steel wedge]

i think astral infection is a pretty big priority rn

[keen zealot]

rightfully so

[steel wedge]

because it is pretty boring

[inner anvil]

There was a list with the order we're changing.

First one is Sunken Sea.

[steel wedge]

you just go there to kill 2 bosses get ore and leave

ah

i'm forgor

sunken sea does need it too

[keen zealot]

sunken sea has more going on than astral imo

[steel wedge]

i know they're adding pylons and stuff

[keen zealot]

but then again it's also smaller and exists for longer

[steel wedge]

sunken sea has lab clam and prisms

[keen zealot]

yeah

[steel wedge]

it needs work

[inner anvil]

#calamity-update-talk message

This is the order.

[keen zealot]

I also think it's not really super appropriate for everything there to require nightmare pickaxe AND downed desert scourge just to hit

[steel wedge]

crag pretty smol too

what's wrong with desert scourge

it's my favorite source of fishing gear early on

[keen zealot]

not much really

the problem is that being able to mine in the sunken sea is locked behind it AND nightmare pickaxe

pick one please

[steel wedge]

no

commit mass genocide

do it do it do it

[keen zealot]

(I already kill everything anyways but I wanna reach the lab early damnit)

[steel wedge]

no

[hollow shell]

@lyric depot Your defense/DR suggestion is actually close to being valid
You just need to add a why

I know you probably think it's obvious, but explain why the decreases should only happen in higher difficulties

Also your title could be a bit less passive-aggressive

Well, hm

I am assuming your sugg is in response to the recent changelogs
in which case it wouldn't be allowed anyway

Would only really apply for the current Endurance Pot nerf

[gray nebula]

i mean also youd have to a

adress the elephant in the room

(that elephant being, bosses deal less damage on lower difficulties)

[hollow shell]

That is also true
The scaling would be two-fold

[lyric depot]

Oh, I never expected that

[lyric depot]

I might have to repost it

[fossil finch]

your reasons are not really strong i think

im not sure whether "reduce the flame in the community" counts as a valid reason and you don't explain what the "dr and defense nerf situation" is

itd be more substantial if you just said some random stuff about making the game easier in easier modes and harder in harder modes or something like that

[frail mantle]

i think the community being pissed about the changes is mostly because they don't understand why

which should hopefully be fixed by simply explaining why from the beginning

if explaining why doesn't change anything there's nothing we could have done anyway

[glad cedar]

not gonna post it as a complete suggestion, but imo legendary droprates should scale based on calamity difficulty
example:
rev - +5%
death - +10%
(+malice - +10%)
being 30% at malice+death

that would be good because grinding bosses is harder on higher difficulties.
so amount of risk and work will be rewarded

[ruby plover]

iirc, the current legendaries that are still boss drops are just there as placeholders, as in like. they will eventually be given a different method of obtaining

correct me if im wrong though, i have a bad memory

[glad cedar]

all of them will be craftable/buyable?

[ruby plover]

i dont know for sure

i could just be spreading misinformation for all i know

[half sage]

yea I remember hearing they'll all eventually get a new method like SHPC got

[ruby plover]

yeah yeah, given a lot of them have been moved away from boss drops, it makes sense the others would, in due time, have that done to them too

[glad cedar]

That's cool

[frail mantle]

Not all of them are gonna be crafting recipes

Some will be more unique

[unique vector]

(it also still is a sugg against a changelog change which is a dont)

[gray nebula]

Edited sugg still gets a lot wrong

-Assumes we are going to remove defense/DR altogether (hilarious but not something that should be in the suggestion)
-Nohitters don't care about defense lol. They nohit. Why bring them up?
-Still doesn't really talk about the fact that lower difficulties have bosses do less damage

[hot zephyr]

why not just nerf bosses more in lower difficulties

instead of going through a headache

programming adaptive tooltips that change based on difficulty

community 2 electric boogaloo

if we're removing 5% dr just decrease damage by a similar amount

there's also the issue where we'd run into defensive accessories being less useful in higher difficulties which was never the point of the DR nerf

in the end the DR changes won't actually be noticable, you'll die from the same amount of hits in 99% of circumstances

[swift wharf]

Tell that to reddit

[lyric depot]

I said it’s not the best solution in the end of my suggestion

[hot zephyr]

if you know of a better solution

suggest that instead

[night jolt]

"Its not the best solution" doesn't make you immune to criticism

[lyric depot]

I don’t have any better suggestions and I know it’s not the best solution according to the devs situation and standard

[hot zephyr]

you could make a suggestion for reducing the damage of endgame bosses because their damage currently scales much faster then defensive accessories

it would be both entirely valid and something we'd probably gladly accept

[night jolt]

If you think theres a really obvious probalem with your suggestion, maybe don't post it

[hollow shell]

(Brutal)

[lyric depot]

Well, It’s just a suggestion. I want to see if it works or not

And according to this, it’s not gonna work apparently

[night jolt]

Sorry if I come across as harsh, but as of recent, a lot of really smooth brained suggestions have been made and its been making me cynical lol

[lyric depot]

it’s ok

[gray nebula]

i mean ideally you just discuss the suggestion here and if other people say its reasonable you post it in #suggestions-posting

[keen zealot]

^

[lyric depot]

That makes sense

[keen zealot]

people tend to post suggs here first just like they would be shown in #suggestions-posting for feedback purposes

[night jolt]

Reddit discovered the patch notes and everything broke lol

[keen zealot]

ahh

[thin hill]

I have a question

If I suggest like let's say new ammunition, does that count as suggesting a specific item

[ruby plover]

depends on how in depth you go into its description i guess
like, are you gonna suggest new ammunition for a specific part of the game that is lacking ammo variety, or...?

[thin hill]

Yeah, I suppose

[frail mantle]

go "aye some new ammunition would be nice", not "add a poopshitler ammunition type that plays a compressed audio file of every single episode of the simpsons in half a second and explodes on hit crafted with miracle matter and mini nukes"

[thin hill]

so I can suggest that

Bruh that suggestion is just

"haha rhyme funny"

[keen zealot]

no modded rocket ammunition

[thin hill]

Anyways I'll suggest it after breakfast

[fossil finch]

Gravitron Sabatons sucks

They should be named Interestellar Stompers

[novel belfry]

i mean, sure, nice DM Dokuro ref, but I really like "Gravitron Sabatons", it rhymes, and it feels good to speak something that rhymes

[fossil finch]

you say this like you ever pronounce a calamity name

(I can confirm no one uses vc as i don't therefore no one does)

in any case interestellar stompers is better because aureus stomps that's the whole point

It's not just funny music name drop it completely fits

[worn salmon]

true actually

i think the current name is fine though

[steel wedge]

space cleats

[keen zealot]

I actually say things frequently because I play almost exclusively multiplayer

[steel wedge]

[keen zealot]

moon clogs

[steel wedge]

bruise shoes

[keen zealot]

what does bruise have to do with space?

[steel wedge]

i dunno

i'm just brainrot thinking about how I want HAN-D officially in RoR2 rn

[keen zealot]

gloves are hand shoes

[steel wedge]

i'm talking about a robot

could always use heavensfall or something too

we're probably not renaming that boot anyways

[crude geode]

#suggestions-voting message
@hollow shell this is the third time this has been reposted in like a month. should there be a cooldown or anything on it?

[hollow shell]

They obeyed the week-long repost minimum each time
We don't have a hard limit on how many times you can repost a suggestion because we figure the suggester will just give up eventually

[crude geode]

gotcha

[steel wedge]

what if they never give up

[hollow shell]

I have had to intervene on a persistent repost exactly once in recent memory

[steel wedge]

Oh.

[hollow shell]

I'd love to find it cuz it was funny

[steel wedge]

I too would enjoy the entertainment

[crude geode]

you can just look up global emotes and prolly find it (if it's the suggestion i think you're referring to)

[hollow shell]

I actually can't remember what emote it was, I am pretty sure it was an emote suggestion though

[crude geode]

it was peepoweird lol

[steel wedge]

was it?

[hollow shell]

Yesss

Thank you Cursed

[steel wedge]

the cursed sugg

well

not you

just the adjective

[crude geode]

np lol

[hot zephyr]

peepoweird sugg

i'm nostalgic

[hollow shell]

@thin hill A fine suggestion but no need to mention "not to mention the upcoming updates with 3 new bosses."
Cuz that is AEONS from now

[crude geode]

yharim and the other two are not coming for a long time

[steel wedge]

[night jolt]

What are the other two bosses coming after SCal tier?

[hollow shell]

Noxus and Xeroc

The ancient eldritch god duo

[warped tide]

(they dont like each other i think)

[steel wedge]

you can already bing chillin with xeroc in the boss rush

fight is later

[hollow shell]

Xeroc being essentially the real god of the universe, and Noxus being black hole cthulhu satan

[steel wedge]

noxus is probably just going to fart darkness everywhere anyways

[warped tide]

ive had like

multiple devs

[steel wedge]

south park satan or just rude dude satan

[warped tide]

basicly tell me “no”

with this

[hollow shell]

With what aspect specifically

[warped tide]

Xeroc is creator god man

(good)

Noxus is satan guy

(bad)

also caused the Astral Infection I think

and/or created it

[hollow shell]

Where does the "no" come in

[warped tide]

the

satan part

and abrahamic god level

part

[hollow shell]

Okay yeah Noxus is not an analogue for Satan

[warped tide]

strict “noxus bad xeroc good”

[hollow shell]

I'm just saying that because he's the counter-force to the real god

[warped tide]

more of a

anti god

?

[hollow shell]

Noxus is not conscious really
Animalistic primal eternal devourer

[warped tide]

devourer

[steel wedge]

oh

he's just hangry

forever

[hollow shell]

(no relation)

(afaik)

[warped tide]

omg calamity conspiracy theory!!!!!

dog = noxus lite!!!!

[hollow shell]

(it's just a common goal for a lot of entities to devour and consume endlessly)
(Slime God too)

[warped tide]

both messed with astrum dues somehow!!!!!

[hollow shell]

tru

[warped tide]

honestly i still wish

noxus was

like

goozma

if that was
a thing once

(i think it was)

[hollow shell]

Yes Goozma was the original plan that later got changed into Noxus

[warped tide]

All Consuming Slime Blob Thing

[hollow shell]

Goozma's premise was the theoretical Slime God that was allowed to spiral out of control

[warped tide]

yeah

[hollow shell]

Constantly consuming and gaining power without limit

[warped tide]

saw a fan made version of this

uh

wasnt the best

[hollow shell]

Yep there was a fan-made mod for it

[warped tide]

theres also Catalyst which basicly turned

Astrageldon into uh

pseudo goozma or something

[hollow shell]

Goozma got disconnected from the slime premise and renamed to Noxus
Re-established as a dark god (same family as Cthulhu and Moon Lord),
counter to Xeroc the light god (no others in existence I think? At one point it was the lore that Xeroc absorbed or destroyed them all so that he could be the supreme being, so not necessarily a good force)

[crude geode]

Isn’t all of this info in the air tho

[warped tide]

wacky

[crude geode]

Considering lore rework

[hollow shell]

byeah the lore is in a constant state of being reworked

[warped tide]

yeah pretty sure its

not going to be so light and dark soon

[hollow shell]

has been for the past like, two or three years

[crude geode]

Fuckin meme at this point

[warped tide]

me when angry dog lore

(i love angry dog he is a good boy)

[stiff swallow]

holy shit i agree 1000% on cosmilite/auric/exoprism/ashes/shadowspec ammo

mus have

[warped tide]

Shadowspec Ammo…

hm

wonder how that would play out

[crude geode]

Ashes sounds pretty weird considering it’s the mage/summoner material

[warped tide]

as a dev item

[hollow shell]

Auric/Exo ammo is possible

[warped tide]

Use it for Nukes

shrimple

[stiff swallow]

the virgin has a cool weapon as dev item vs chad makes dev arrows/bullets

[old phoenix]

so, what would yharon, exo and auric bullets loot like?
I was thinking for starters auric bullets would cost 333 musket balls, 1 auric bar and give you 333 tesla bullets.
They'd be golden ofc with a lightning effect and they'd scale off of your speed, so the faster you are the more damage you do but the harder it is to keep yourself from running into things...

[warped tide]

Yharon would just be firey

uh

[stiff swallow]

whats the difference between yharon and auric

[warped tide]

Auric would probably have instant travel like

uh

[stiff swallow]

ig uses yharon soul

?

[warped tide]

Electric Bullets from

[warped tide]

Folly Feathers + Soul Frags

[warped tide]

Polarities

[old phoenix]

bullets that just teleport to your target? so like, what if you miss? you dont see the shot and a shot gets used up?

[warped tide]

minus block piercing

no just

line

hitscan

[old phoenix]

whats hitscan?

[warped tide]

Like no

projectile

it just

hits

[stiff swallow]

yeah

that seems a bit op

[steel wedge]

sounds like you want an instant laser

[warped tide]

its

auric

[stiff swallow]

I know but

[old phoenix]

ok, but part of aiming, at least for me is seeing the stream of bullets

[warped tide]

dont worry it would probably work like the Shadowbeam Staff

in concept

based off

my

idea

[stiff swallow]

having chlorophyte bullets but higher damage seems neat

tho

[thin hill]

understood, sir

[warped tide]

not official

[old phoenix]

oooh, well wait, doesnt that invalidate the cog bullets? that move faster the longer they dont hit