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#suggestions-discussion
eternal escarp
inner anvil
My face when.
tardy smelt
the idea of dog actually being on something that can be called an intended difficulty (for most) is terrifying frankly
eternal escarp
well not you specifically ig
but ive heared a lot of people say how DoG is "a joke" and "needs to be harder" so ye
warped tide
the idea of dog actually being on something that can be called an intended diffi...
moth 
tardy smelt
but ive heared a lot of people say how DoG is "a joke" and "needs to be harder" ...
i did use to say that
tardy smelt
then i got my nickname thrown in my face by fab himself
inner anvil
but ive heared a lot of people say how DoG is "a joke" and "needs to be harder" ...
This same situation reminds of Yharon, people were complaining he was a Duke clone, we gave him bullet hells, and some are questionable, but will be fixed.
warped tide
I said stealth was janky and fab simply replied “blocked”
inner anvil
Guess what happens to a person when you say their work is bad.
warped tide
Guess what happens to a person when you say their work is bad.
death
inner anvil
To the surprise of literally nobody, they get mad.
warped tide
oh well
tardy smelt
Stealth is not janky lmao.
i did hear it was somewhat difficult to balance
inner anvil
That is correct.
tardy smelt
if im not mistaken it'll get finished alongside the Yharon biome
not entirely sure why but yeah
inner anvil
Well...
I cannot give you a proper answer.
tardy smelt
and i wouldn't be surprised if dog's resprite came along with his subbiome
warped tide
thats not a thing anymore is it
tardy smelt
and like
when you're dealing with such a huge mod of an already huge game
shocker! you get bugs
inner anvil
thats not a thing anymore is it
No wonder.
inner anvil
We all do in some points.
warped tide
tardy smelt
thats the wonderful part about game designers
they all have their own bits of wisdom
and the fact that difficulty is subjective (for players, you can and should still somewhat objectify it as a designer) is one i did in fact get from fab
grim tusk
Stealth is not janky lmao.
Stealth is jank as fuck, in a good way
inner anvil
I mean the formulas.
The meter itself, not the things it interacts to, that's a story that you will deal with.
grim tusk
i did hear it was somewhat difficult to balance
Cant wait to nerf a weapon 10 times and have it still be op
deft yew
at least, on thanatos
worms™️
grim tusk
The meter itself, not the things it interacts to, that's a story that ***you*** ...
“The problem is dragon scales accessories and potions”
inner anvil
You'll deal with that champion.
distant gyro
the problem is everything
grim tusk
Seraphim <:LeviKek:658879621198118918>
I prob overnerfed seraphim 
deft yew
i mean when you have to give thanatos 95% resist
warped tide
the problem is clearly the fact your not playing mage
grim tusk
But like how tf Seraph used to nuke Thanathos when it was 85% (granted stealth also used to fire 9 lasers instead of 7 and did more dmg)
tardy smelt
I prob overnerfed seraphim <:HDfailure:482263678150770729>
i dunno
warped tide
unlock the ability to kill bosses early
grim tusk
the problem is clearly the fact your not playing mage
Mage also has a lot of issues
tardy smelt
weapon balance sounds kinda fun tbh
inner anvil
Until.
tardy smelt
even though actually designing weapons and then balancing sounds more fun to me
warped tide
Aquatic Scourge? Pulse Pistol and Nights Ray!
Dragonfolly… damn what did i use again
inner anvil
grim tusk
i dunno
Seraph on Scal is perfectly balanced
On Exos Thanathos’s resist was prob a bit overkill
warped tide
oh right
inner anvil
Unforseen consequences.
warped tide
the Swarmer and Lazhar
eternal escarp
the broken weapons
eternal escarp
swarmer is great
warped tide
Yeah its
tardy smelt
honestly i can't complain doe its been helping me a lot on jumpless deus
grim tusk
For a moment i thought we were in #calamity-update-talk lol
warped tide
tardy smelt
lo
inner anvil
Not with that attitude.
warped tide
I think I mainly used the Swarmer during the fight because I cant aim
grim tusk
No killtime 
warped tide
I wouldnt call the Swarmer broken but it is very powerful
worthy lintel
testers when no killtime
warped tide
No killtime <:CirrusAnger:658878290034950184>
No clue how to pull up that
inner anvil
testers when no killtime
No Killtimes? :(
warped tide
And Im just playing though this casually lmao
grim tusk
No clue how to pull up that
Nycro’s nohit efficiency or CalTestHelpers
tardy smelt
nycro my beloved
left elbow
Just would like to point how this entire convo from a while back literally aged like milk
I had a really good point that I just did an awful job at defending
but still, this entire convo is still hilarious now that Death Mode is no longer an Eternity Mode copy
eh
Old Death Mode was cringe, am glad it got changed
That convo is literally one of the biggest arguments I had on this Disc
it's probably not what influenced the final decision but I'd still like to think I was onto something back then
Even though I hadn't played Death Mode, I still knew its random boss spawns were an objectively awful idea from a game design standpoint.
i just did an awful job defending my claim
but yea looking back i honestly think the arguments were terrible from both sides
deft yew
but still, this entire convo is still hilarious now that Death Mode is no longer...
Eternity copy?
moyai
Death makes tiny boss changes compared to Rev
left elbow
not a copy more like
Eternity Mode Lite
temperature mechanics were removed first because it limited early game exploration too much and punished non linearity, which was literally against the idea of Calamity
and then Boss Spawns went because everyone finally realized they were an awful idea that added nothing to the mode
left elbow
yes
deft yew
Like, the lightning bolts and the icicle storms were cool
left elbow
Temp mechanics made exploring for materials early in the game absolute hell
deft yew
Hell effects were cool but kicked in too fast
left elbow
The Tundra changes were most egregious
left elbow
Made early game Mage hell because passing through it is necessary to get books from the Dungeon
deft yew
What space should have had is suffocation
left elbow
which are needed for plenty of early game spell tomes
umbral sonnet
NO
DoG
is supposed to be hard
Dont nerf it because its hard
this game isnt supposed to be easy
I beat it
in death mode
melee
During my first playthrough
3rd try
you actually have to prepare
it was a fun challenge preparing
crude geode
Least gatekeeping calamity fan
languid meteor
Dont nerf it because its hard
Something is able to be hard while also remaining fun and fair
DoG is plenty of the former, but rather lacking on the latter imo
umbral sonnet
Something is able to be hard while also remaining fun and fair
DoG is plenty of ...
no
its fun
definitely
dense ferry
You know that's not objective, right?
unique vector
Least gatekeeping calamity fan
dense ferry
Besides, the idea is super cool
umbral sonnet
Besides, the idea is super cool
im saying this because imo the ceaseless void rework has caused him to once again, i feel be way easier, he is no longer any bit challenging, if he were reverted i would be alright with this
dense ferry
That's your problem
orchid briar
When people are never satisfied with ceaseless void
crude geode
you can never satisfy everyone
warped tide
No killtime <:CirrusAnger:658878290034950184>
Going to refight the Damn thing with like
25 extra hp and 50 extra mana
with everything I actually used during the fight
lets see how this goes
warped tide
wait i think I know why but why it over Chaos stone
I just dont want to use Mana Potions
lmao
also swapped out the wings for the Hadle Mantle lmao
There
Eye of Magnus really pulled through
this thing is Scarily easy in Pre ML
and it gives Supreme Healing Potions
It can also open up
Blunder Booster
Dynamo Stem Cells
Mad Alchemist's Cocktail Glove
Golden Eagle
Gilder Proboscis
oh and Yharon I guess
short warren
Dont nerf it because its hard
Yharon, Scal, and the Calamitas clone are pretty hard, but fair enough so that I don’t have to spend hours to beat.
DoG on the other hand, is a long as hell fight, and pretty unfair as well
The nerf isn’t for the difficulty, it’s for making it actually fair / fun
short warren
Going to try another weapon on this thing
Use the Elemental Staff
It’s really fucking good
night jolt
I just dont want to use Mana Potions
But you are well beyond the point where Mage has options that are objectively better than the friggin Mana regen band
crude geode
But you are well beyond the point where Mage has options that are objectively be...
that's the funny thing, mana regen band is usable throughout the game lol
warped tide
theres no actual upgrade to it
crude geode
mage is just that stupid
warped tide
Use the Elemental Staff
using pre ML here
Bat Scepter and Orians Belt arnt as good
after testing
short warren
Oh
warped tide
Im trying to address if maybe some items may need to be brought down against folly
or something
i think just generally Swarmer is stupidly good against dragonfolly
like specifically The Swarmer
fringe notch
Yharon, Scal, and the Calamitas clone are pretty hard, but fair enough so that I...
||Wait, calamitas is hard? Oh...||
short warren
Brimflames from the brothers and the last phase are pain
umbral sonnet
yea
pure bluff
the brothers and second bullet hell are still a pain with that but the rest of the fight is pretty easy
umbral sonnet
2ND is hardest imo
crude geode
not the place for this topic
dusty stirrup
im saying this because imo the ceaseless void rework has caused him to once agai...
🥶
short warren
not the place for this topic
Sorry
fossil basin
The suggestion saying dog is too long a fight is exactly the opposite of my opinion, the bosses one shot attacks are easy to dodge and well telegraphed if you use the minimap, calamity is meant to be hard and dog is one of the final bosses and should have a difficulty reflecting that
ruby plover
one shot attacks?
Are you confused or are you stuck in the past
Oh okay it says that in the suggestion
frozen hornet
It is hard but I can't say I enjoyed it a lot in the 7 pts I've done
small timber
the issue is less that DoG is "super difficult", it is more that currently DoG's difficulty is build on it being bullshit
frozen hornet
I wouldn't say it's bullshit either just bleh
CGs are the only thing I really dislike
ruby plover
Fireballs are a pretty big issue
crude geode
trying to please everyone is impossible and dog is the best example of it lol
small timber
because the current difficulty of the boss is pretty much that if you are in the air, DoG speed up massively (in Death +) when it turns blue/air phase, but since the phase transition is super inconsistent especially in Death +, this ends up having DoG just randomly speed up and hit you when you are not expected
ruby plover
trying to please everyone is impossible and dog is the best example of it lol
Yeah….
“Dog is too hard”
“Dog is too easy”
small timber
the phase 2 fireball is not really a problem, the problem is DoG does these "small head twitch" to line itself up perfectly with the player, and when DoG does this it can spray fireball at super random direction (and because it accelerate it turn into sniper shot super quickly)
small timber
and ya other than that it is pretty much DoG's starting laser wall super suddenly and cosmic antifun guardian
slate crater
is it weird that the only DoG thing I struggle with is laser walls?
crude geode
@hollow shell shitpost
hollow shell
@elder path Hello do not post shitpost suggestions please
crude geode
(Pretty sure he’s a repeat offender)
hollow shell
They posted one low-effort suggestion before but it wasn't an outright joke that time
crude geode
Fair
sleek wadi
DoG out here staying Calamity's problem child
crude geode
and also it’s poster boy
gray nebula
trying to please everyone is impossible and dog is the best example of it lol
me after i make an easy boss but a small group of people struggle with it so actually its just subjective in the end and all is good
not saying its dog or anything cuz i havent foguht him in forever
jus like any subjectivity haters in the chat? anyone just bearing a profound hatred towards the ability of "subjectivity" to handwave away issues? anyone here is a Grindset user?
unique vector
Grindset mindset
gray nebula
like theres the hilarious moment of malice being "this mode is subjective (???)" because i mean yeah ok but actually it wasnt even "subjective"i n the sense it was meant to entail it being subjective (aka it was never really intended to be a refight mode) and subjectively it doesnt have the best reception am i right
😭
crude geode
What
unique vector
basically hes saying ppl use the term subjective to the pt where it loses meaning
and like is ignorant of actual prevalant issues
crude geode
This is true
gray nebula
i'm commenting on subjectivity being used sort of as a shield agaisnt real issues by usign the example of malices tooltip which makes kinda no sense
gray nebula
when the word subjective ends up being thrown around so much it just becomes a one-size-fits-all fix
unique vector
literal coping mechanism
gray nebula
since im more on the art side of things and on the Grind side of things and having gotten raised by votes on sprites and comparisons between resprites and current sprites ans such im way mroe abt like idk finding some proper qualities to stuff instead of like making a sprite and shrugging off issues as "well you don't like it subjectively but others do
crude geode
Yeah I would agree using the word “subjective” for malice is. really bad.
gray nebula
idk i jus see some ppl do it often and personally i am not a fan but subjectively u can do it if you enjoy doing it
unique vector
ironically when someone says something is subjectively good usually that means its coontroversial in some sense
gray nebula
yea
like i mean once again i litterally havent fought dog in a super long while but if it ends up having a wildly varying percieved difficulty level mayb its becous its too random or not consistent enough or something u get me
and i mean i wouldnt be surprised because its a worm boss and those guys are funny
grim tusk
DoG used to be extremely easy, until 1.5.1
grim tusk
crude geode
DoG is a fucking mess yeah
gray nebula
trollface emoji
unique vector
gray nebula
yeah from videos i saw (and messages i read) he did look kinda easy becous of how passive he often was
but apparently now he is angrier so good
but maybe he is too angry ? idk
worm boss moment
sand ermine
simply put, dog shall become a fruit by the foot in calamity 1.4
unique vector
grim tusk
but maybe he is too angry ? idk
That seems to be the issue most people have due to it somehow nyoming the fuck out in certain arena types
grim tusk
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/382184799407964160/916153423961915402/f...
:literalyfuckingdead:
grim tusk
Yep it will eventually get fixed given that convo
gray nebula
cuz its just like inherently kinda unpredictable i guess i mean it could be made predictable and stuff im sure but itd require heavy changes the "just moves around by thrusting forward and sometimes taking sharp turns does happen and yea
ends up with le funny cheap(?) potentially hits
grim tusk
By looking at the git commits it was prob fixed already
And in today’s test he also did not suddenly speed up
dusty stirrup
every other update
DoG has had atleast 3 final changes in 3 different updates
grim tusk
And i fought it on my exos world lol
gray nebula
omw to make ibanfernum to make dog how i would do it myself gg ez
dusty stirrup
give him a rooar sfx maybe
woahhhhhhhhhhhh actually following the trend DS seemed to be setting up 😍
crude geode
ds best worm boss
Based
gray nebula
its simple but cute like only thing id really add to it is like sand rumbling in the spot its going to erupt out of from
grim tusk
On dmode i think he’s a close second with EoW
On Rev best worm for me is AS, with DS being second
dusty stirrup
ds b est worm boss (not on malice on rev)
Actually true though
grim tusk
Probably one of the best introductory bosses
Unlike KS
One of the introductory bosses of all time
dusty stirrup
KS is like a large enemy instead of a proper boss
dusty stirrup
Mother Slime EX
gray nebula
well i mean he got the jewel thing in rev so thats a thing thank god
imagine if we got king zombie and its just a big zombie
crude geode
Byeah I have no clue when dog will finally have an actual solid identity to his fight
It feels like it changes every other update
night jolt
Change the tool tip for Malice Mode
"This mode is subjective" Fuck does that mean?
gray nebula
cuz if its just more and more individual small "tweaks" that don't really change the core of his design well uj
hell evolve for sure but itll still be mostly aimless besides just awnsering an immediate demand for difficulty or fairness or
thas why I rly like ds i feel
because in its simplicity it can have a stronger core identity
like, the floor is lava, and then avoid it's lunges by listening out for roars (and then weave around the sand bullets
it's simple because it's an early game boss but it's quite memorable to me,
small timber
I still think this will fit malice tooltip a lot more (with slightly different/more formal wording of course)
gray nebula
yes it would
grim tusk
I still think this will fit malice tooltip a lot more (with slightly different/m...
This sounds good
small timber
ya I put that previously in a suggestion, didnt quite get enough vote (I assume people just dont care about tooltip enough, especially Malice)
crude geode
that would indeed make sense
small timber
I just think that tooltip above is much more fitting (and accurate) of what malice is
(especially that Malice drops is removed, so it is a pure challenge mode now)
gray nebula
warning!! this is a mod for noshitters
hot zephyr
ds best worm boss
i'm more of a deus guy tbh
that's why I made sure to sneak astral bars into the true biome blade recipe 
]
no longer skippable boss :)
hot zephyr
many worm
i really enjoyed 11 deus too
deus does so much right, i love the funky little guy
small timber
just make new deus also split into like 16 worms and each shot projectile
tbh it will be pretty cool having 16 splitted deus worm moving in unison to perform a scripted bullet hell or something like that
hot zephyr
all sixteen rotating the player
tardy smelt
i love his guy
unironically, DS is kinda cool yeah
warped tide
Personally Im fine with him being agressive as shit, I mean hes an endgame boss you need some kinda of challenge
just... its a 4 minute fight
tardy smelt
deus does so much right, i love the funky little guy
many people hate him
...which is a shame, he's one of my favourite bosses as well
warped tide
Dues gang
I killed that thing with
an Eye of Magnus
thats it
that was the loadout
tardy smelt
warning!! this is a mod for noshitters
many of said people are also nohitters
i find it hilarious how they hate some specific bosses far more than anyone else does just because they generally struggle with nohitting them consistently or whatever
tardy smelt
i find it hilarious how they hate some specific bosses far more than anyone else...
for example: Skeletron Prime
warped tide
for example: Skeletron Prime
vanilla prime is a disgrace
tardy smelt
it is
warped tide
calamity prime is actually fun to fight
warped tide
I think like
the only boss I could probably nohit
or at least try
is Dragonfolly?
on/before tier that is
I am
suprisingly good at fighting Dragonfolly
warped tide
Astrum Aureus
(Ravenger also kinda sucks because of how the Rock Walls work but otherwise hes fun)
(OPINION!)
pure bluff
a lot of people hate ravager but i find it surprisingly more easy and fun idk why lol
also i like deus but i dont like deus in malice because from what i've seen it always does the lightspeed deus thing
warped tide
Generally the fights fun but the Rock Walls are
very very annoying
pure bluff
i just try to alternate platforms of my arena a lot and it helps to avoid them
warped tide
Dues is my favorite worm boss (In calamity, generally its Starplate Voyager)
pure bluff
and dont stay above them either bc they jump
tardy smelt
a lot of people hate ravager but i find it surprisingly more easy and fun idk wh...
fun is subjective
as is difficulty
i find ravager enjoyable too even if its got its issues
well
the fact that the head's killable now doesn't help in that regard
but since its getting reworked anyway it doesn't matter much
frigid rapids
Yharon mount?
thorn spoke
Naturally spawning smaller version of desert scourge in desert
After WoF or something
hollow shell
Reason?
thorn spoke
New mob
royal turtle
why though
frozen hornet
It would need a purpose
thorn spoke
It would be fun, also could drop something
frozen hornet
There's already like 3 desert worms excluding ds itself
eternal escarp
it would be fun isnt a very good reason tbf
frozen hornet
making a completely new one with items would take a lot of effort
eternal escarp
and "it could drop something" sounds like an afterthought
thorn spoke
There's already like 3 desert worms excluding ds itself
But only when boss is alive
frozen hornet
And it wouldn't accomplish much
frozen hornet
But only when boss is alive
That sounds like a bad idea
frozen hornet
people already get annoyed at wyverns for spawning mid fight
short walrus
desert nuisances?
frozen hornet
I said there's already about three desert worms that spawn naturally
short walrus
oh true
thorn spoke
But not lore worms
frozen hornet
why would you need lore worms then
What would it achieve
What would it solve
Why should the devs spend effort on it instead of working on the other things that need reworking
Like the sunken sea rework
or the port
thorn spoke
It's just an idea
royal turtle
suggestion: fishing themed whip that can be fished up in the sulphur sea like the hardmode biome weapons, it could be fishing line or an eel. currently i don't think calamity has any sulphur sea based weapons that arent abyss or acid rain themed and a whip you can get via fishing would help fill out the prehm whip roster, of which there are currently Literally Three
small timber
No whip suggestion yet since it is future content (not in the game yet)
short walrus
future content sugg
royal turtle
ah ok
small timber
Ya probably wait for 1.4 port to be done before posting it
frozen hornet
It's just an idea
you'd need to justify why the idea should be made, give it a reason.
eternal escarp
so it could possibly pass if its slightly trimmed, for after the port
pass to, #suggestions-voting , i mean
eternal escarp
that isnt *too* specific
.
eternal escarp
so it could possibly pass if its slightly trimmed, for after the port
,
just asking for "a whip from (general area / point of progression) for (valid reasons)" is a fine suggestion
arctic apex
Honestly something like a Poseidon fight would be cool this way there’s a second sort of ocean boss, but it wouldn’t be like actual Poseidon it would be it’s own version, I’d think something like that would fit in since we do fight gods in game
eternal escarp
we fight a god and a half in this game and they are all weakened
frozen hornet
we have enough bosses tbh
And anahita already fills the role of oceanic god thingy
small timber
I feel like if something named "Poseidon" exist in the game chances are it is some kind of Draedon abyss diving machine that somehow turn into a murder machine
small timber
I mean artemis' emblem is not connected to artemis
short walrus
Poseidon is, actually, a magic weapon Tome dropped by the Giant Clam in hardmode
Dumbass got himself turned into a book
eternal escarp
~~I mean artemis' emblem is not connected to artemis~~
well yeah but you just said "exists in the game"
tardy smelt
if it were a boss, he probably meant
tardy smelt
I feel like if something named "Poseidon" exist in the game chances are it is so...
also that sounds fun to fight tbh
gray nebula
"a second sort of ocean boss"
Aquatic scourge, anahita and leviathan, old Duke, arguably aew, arguably giant clam as a miniboss, the acid rain minibosses
eternal escarp
normal dfish too ig
tardy smelt
an eight sort of ocean boss :clueless:
arctic apex
Aquatic scourge, anahita and leviathan, old Duke, arguably aew, arguably giant c...
I didn’t mean it like that I mainly meant like ocean ocean
gray nebula
anahita and leviathan
gray nebula
and theres regular duke fishron
arctic apex
Ye forgot about that tbh
leaden lynx
Arkhalis?
drowsy plank
not to go back to the previous convo (plus this would kinda be something more oriented towards the calamity texture pack people anyway) but it would be neat if the other random ass "desert worms" that just exist looked more like ds
hollow shell
Maybe not worms but enemies in general
We have Cnid which follows the theme, but iirc none else
I guess it makes sense that a vast majority of the old sea creatures couldn't adapt and just died, but still, would be nice to hint at that lore a bit more with more dried ocean-themed enemies
tardy smelt
or maybe just having a few "fossil" blocks/structures embedded in the ground generate all-round
it'd be a cute little nod to the lore
dusty stirrup
deus does so much right, i love the funky little guy
It's true
Deus is a solid contender for best calamity worm boss
arctic apex
Something cool for the sunken sea would be an Atlantis type thingy
Like maybe at the center there could be some sort of Atlantis connection
Unless that goes against like lore or something
hollow shell
We do have plans to add more mini-structures to the Underground Desert and Sunken Sea
Not a full city but the destroyed remnants of one (as was the success of Calamitas's attack)
dusty stirrup
I don't see how it doesn't fit its own lore aside from looking like another robot worm
arctic apex
We *do* have plans to add more mini-structures to the Underground Desert and Sun...
Oh that’s sick
dusty stirrup
That's a common issue across the mod anyway
Which would hopefully be lessened by the upcoming biome reworks
crude geode
@dapper coral Spam
dapper coral
dead
oblique talon
https://tenor.com/view/pogchamp-triggered-gif-21422383
Damn
hollow shell
Unsure if this sugg counts as subclass or not
What true melee weapons are there at that tier
worthy lintel
not a lot
murasama, dragon rage
and huh something else?
but yes its 100% subclass material lel
hot zephyr
murasama, dragon rage, enforcer, the tainted weapons
cerulean trench
ye
sleek wadi
Murasama struggles to reach exo-twins but its not like its impossible.
hollow shell
Enforcer is true melee now?
sleek wadi
You can either wait for their dash, spend RoD/NR teleport, or spend GS dash to get an opportunity. You can also use Fungal Symbiote to get more damage.
cerulean trench
idk
cerulean trench
it wasnt always
ruby plover
It functions the same as pre-1.5, just without the fireball
sleek wadi
Enforcer was changed to true melee in 1.5
hollow shell
WoF is my favorite proj melee weapon
sleek wadi
I think you should emphasize the smaller screen bit more than the true melee part
crude geode
making the boss stay closer to the player would come with projectiles almost spawning on top of players tbfh
hollow shell
Make them slower
sleek wadi
True melee struggling to find damage opportunities is part of their balance and its not like Exo mechs are outright impossible for them without fungal symbiote
hollow shell
@short warren Is your main concern the lack of effect it has on your stats?
short warren
mostly
hollow shell
It would be good for you to lay out your concerns more clearly, so that the suggestion is more actionable
(do note that proficiency is intentionally weak by design, not meant to be significant, just a little indication of progress)
(you can agree or disagree with that intent but that's the intent)
bright crag
WoF is my favorite proj melee weapon
Ah yes, Wall of Flesh is my favorite projectile melee weapon
hard bronze
Is there a way to remove a suggestion, i dont think galaxia should be changed but i still think true biome blade should be
True biome blade as a crowd control weapon is kinda weak, and u can kinda only use it for the lunar pillars and after that it becomes obsolete which is such a shame because the biome blade line is so fucking cool
galaxia is fine tho however, because it works well enough for bosses + crowd control
hollow shell
We typically don't delete suggestions from #suggestions-voting unless something is wrong with it (i.e. it broke the rules and slipped through)
You can re-suggest it a week after your original sugg, with your desired alterations
gray nebula
cerulean trench
@kindred creek add a description (reasons, examples, etc)
kindred creek
i did, but my shift key is busted so it accidently sent it early
when ii tried to hit enter my shift key didnt work
unique vector
hollow shell
"Astrum Aurus fight is boring and way too difficult for progression, and the drops are not very good."
This is pretty tangentially related to the point of your suggestion
Not a content quantity problem
But uhh yeah we are indeed planning on adding more to the biome, it'll have a dedicated expansion update down the line
hushed jetty
Astral expansion 2.0?
hard bronze
You can re-suggest it a week after your original sugg, with your desired alterat...
Thank you ^_^
warped tide
"Astrum Aurus fight is boring and way too difficult for progression, and the dro...
(I 100% agree with this I hate current Aureus)
warped tide
Astral subworld maybe?
No sadly
though the corpse of the OG Dues would be fun to run around and mine in
small timber
mostly
this suggestion did get into dev server before (just didnt get a reaction), while different approach the main idea is the same to basically rework proficiency
however I remember the reason is that the devs simply dont want to touch proficiency system yet (or they have plans to it?) or they didnt like the idea
one thing I know is that they will be very unlikely to revert to making proficiency matters (in combat stats, eg: summoner have +1 minion slot) because that is the direction they are moving away from
unborn oriole
Make it so if you spawn the destroyer with an Orichalcum spiked Gemstone in your inventory, it spawns as "The destroyer" instead 
crude geode
Me when a weapon is broken (this is completely shocking and never heard of in the calamity community, and it’s totally original for jokes)
distant gyro
clearly because a broken weapon lasts forever and there is no such point it gets nerfed
hot zephyr
i think there's a far greater chance of prof getting removed entirely than getting reworked
cerulean trench
i forgot about subclass changing rule so i deleted the old message and i have a shiny new one
is anything gonna get me kicked in the kneecaps for this
small timber
I mean, it will be the equivalent of say, perforator hive without the worms
ruby plover
i dont really see a purpose to it
you learn the fight by... doing the fight how it is normally done
cerulean trench
you learn the fight by... doing the fight how it is normally done
yeah, i know
but thats tedious
small timber
ya the only reason is pretty much a practice mode thing, and it will be weird for calamity itself to add a practice mode for their own boss
cerulean trench
and you dont know which projectiles come from which mech sometimes
small timber
when the "practice mode" is just fight the full fight
cerulean trench
bc for most of the fight 2 or 3 are out
small timber
basically this is not an idea the calamity itself should carry out, there simply isnt really any point to
cerulean trench
k thats fair
small timber
this is more suitable for other mod that is like "calamity boss practice" or something like that to add this
cerulean trench
understood
soft quest
"Astrum Aurus fight is boring and way too difficult for progression, and the dro...
How, how, and how
Fight is one of my favorites, it isn’t hair ripping hard, and some items he drops are pretty good
soft quest
Hard disagree
unique vector
little bit of an oversimplification
but i can see where you draw the ai similarities
crude barn
crab and aureus aren't too alike
other than the fact that they're both crabs and can jump the fights play out differently
dusty stirrup
Aureus isn't really much like Crab but I still wish it could be more than what it is rn
unique vector
boss changes
ruby plover
it's a speed demon on malice but. thats something different'
unique vector
unique vector
i believe i said my piece abt boss changes in gav's server already i am too tired to go on another rant
dusty stirrup
I just wish it felt like a heavy recon robot created by Draedon and powered by Astral like it's supposed to be but 😭
unique vector
boss identities when they
crude barn
lasers and summon orbs that explode!!
soft quest
Aureus probably has my top 3 favorite themes in the mod, he’s pretty tanky which is always fun and his attacks seem to discourage wings (or at least in my experience) which I like because it mixes up otherwise monotonous gameplay. He’s mediocre to most but I just love him for some reason
dusty stirrup
i believe i said my piece abt boss changes in gav's server already i am too tire...
My focus priority is still on biomes anyway but if we're gonna do related stuff at some point we might as well
dusty stirrup
Aureus probably has my top 3 favorite themes in the mod, he’s pretty tanky which...
I get you
I actually like ravager but people seem to hate it
soft quest
Ravages is pretty cool but the rock pillars can be a bit too punishing
crude barn
why move up when you can just keep falling and win
dusty stirrup
It's mostly about keeping your ground and baiting ravager really
soft quest
Isn’t ravager not supposed to be fought with wings?
crude barn
if you do move up you kinda die
soft quest
Hence the debuff
crude barn
Isn’t ravager not supposed to be fought with wings?
ravager decreases wing time but wings are still intended
without wings you really can't do anything other than fall god
unique vector
My focus priority is still on biomes anyway but if we're gonna do related stuff ...
you are doing a great job keep it up
unique vector
environmental design is such a cool thing but i cant wrap my head around it i dont have enough experience
sleek wadi
I only remember Aureus for 2 things: He's one of like 4 bosses where Coldheart Icicle is viable, and if he somehow jumps away from you he leaps into the background and despawns
unique vector
https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/775613478185467909.gif?v=1
tweakin
soft quest
I’m completely all for the biome update
sleek wadi
Good ol' Astrum Adios
crude barn
an update doesn't need a new boss for it to be cool
soft quest
So far the updates have all been guns guns guns, I’d think it’d be nice to chill with just revamping and expanding stuff that isn’t bosses and weapons
dusty stirrup
ENVIRONMENTAL BOSS PRESENCE WOOOOOOOOOOOO LET'S GO
soft quest
Oh yeah
You know how a bunch of planned respites where mentioned
Did aureus ever get concept art
crude barn
So far the updates have all been guns guns guns, I’d think it’d be nice to chill...
I feel like a lot of people play calamity just for the bosses/weapons
dusty stirrup
Did aureus ever get concept art
No
soft quest
Because he looks nothing like a robot
crude barn
well it does
dusty stirrup
~~I feel like a lot of people play calamity just for the bosses/weapons~~
A lot of people play Terraria Modded just for that
😔
crude barn
when bosses aren't the only content that exists in the game
soft quest
5 seconds in suggestions and you realize people only want no grinding, no building, but just bosses and guns
crude barn
I didn't have to scroll too far to see a building suggestion
soft quest
“Remove everything from auric recipe.
We’ve all been there, takes forever, adds nothing to experience. I propose auric is made of 1 dirt to reduce pointless grinding”
unique vector
ENVIRONMENTAL BOSS PRESENCE WOOOOOOOOOOOO LET'S GO
i am so excited for our plans
we just need
porting
to finish
dusty stirrup
😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭
dusty stirrup
Singlehandely destroyed my motivation with anything to do with terraria
soft quest
Prob not the place to ask but will labor of love postpone the porting
crude barn
Prob not the place to ask but will labor of love postpone the porting
probably by a little bit
soft quest
probably by a little bit
crude barn
I think labor of love is coming in like early june or something? That's my guess
though dunno if tmod 1.4 or labor will come first
sleek wadi
When terraria devs hand it off to the modders but pranked ya not really
small timber
I actually like ravager but people seem to hate it
in my opinion the biggest flaws of ravager is still its fist, all other mechanic are designed to fight in enclosed space while there the fist requires super fast fire rate weapon or forced to move away
sleek wadi
A miniscule amount of tomfoolery
dusty stirrup
Prob not the place to ask but will labor of love postpone the porting
Balancing-wise only, most likely
There has not been really deep balancing done yet anyway so
probably not that much
left elbow
proficiency rework suggestion would defo take way too much time
and imo Astral Infection has a decent amount of content as is
inner anvil
If it was a lil' bit less subjective it could go through, though it's public that there'll be a biome rework update, in which it includes the Astral Infection, so this suggestion is not needed to be honest.
inner anvil
That I do not know or remember.
small timber
while I do think astral infection can use more content (and there is planned astral underground content soon™), I definitely do not agree the reasoning of the suggestion, with astrum aureus being "too difficult for progression" and "no reward"
the main thing about astrum aureus is just it is overly tanky, its moveset is widely regard as on the easier of hardmode, meanwhile Astum Deus regarded as "only for farming lunar fragment" is a big deal considering the chore that is pillar events, and astral bar is no small rewards, it unlocks a bunch of moonlord ready weapons and even true biome blade, astral armor/hadarian wing and deific amulet, even aureus have good reward such as aureus cell, astral chest and or even if you use none of them, an adrenaline upgrade
tardy smelt
Afaik itll focus on the underground section
Not much is known of it yet, but we might learn more about it once the Sunken Sea and Brimstone Crag updates are completed
pure bluff
while I do think astral infection can use more content (and there is planned ast...
as the name of the person who just came in chat says, difficulty is largely subjective. personally i find astrum areus challenging but fair but there are bound to be people who have more trouble with it than others right
small timber
the thing is the suggestion used bosses as the entire reasoning for astral infection's existence (or rather its lack of purpose), so I have to argue from the same angle
tardy smelt
And yeah
Ive found out that i'm actually kind of terrible at astrum aureus, funnily
It varies
arctic apex
Tbh I really like astrum aureus lore is cool music is cool design is cool and I like the fight too, however I do somewhat agree with drops the drops feel a little bit underwhelming
Also about the grind stuff I actually really like the grind
It would be boring af if I fought all the bosses without needing to properly prepare
tardy smelt
Im really not big on Aureus as a boss, but opinions opinions whatever. Honestly, Aureus is kinda fine in terms of what it unlocks, which is a variety of weapons for all classes all over the Astral Infection even if the way its distributed in is kind of lame
night jolt
I think the real problem with Aureus is the same problem with Golem and to a certain extent Ravager
The fact that pretty much nothing stops you from just getting the height advantage and keeping it for the entire fight
I honestly think Aureus is too easy
pure bluff
doesnt aureus jump higher the higher you are above it tho
or is that malice only or smt
small timber
that is malice aureus, other aureus dont quite catch up to you
malice aureus is a different entitiy to other mode aureus
night jolt
I think Aureus should either inflict distorted to make flying more difficult, or a crackhead idea, start flying at like half health
pure bluff
mb it would be a good idea to suggest they give that ability to normal aureus so you cant use height advantage too much?
arctic apex
Maybe he could shoot projectiles out of those eye things on his legs
eternal escarp
that issue does not occur for ravager because he quite litterly snips your flight time in P2, and in P1 if ypu fly away you are actively hindering yourself
golem it doesnt happem because the boss is litterally fought in the temple on expected terms
it happens with aureus if you dont want to actually know where the boss os but he will eventually teleport back to you
or despawn
so either way i dont think it happens that often for it either
small timber
just make both astrum aureus and deus inflict special gravity debuff that reduce flight time
pure bluff
~~just make both astrum aureus and deus inflict special gravity debuff that redu...
deus already does that right
eternal escarp
i believe deus already has a form of debuff?
also no why deus that fight does need you to use some flight time
pure bluff
or is that DoG
small timber
ya deus does that, but it use the DoG's extreme gravity
arctic apex
I think Deus boss fight is fine tbh
pure bluff
went to wiki it and the wiki is down lol
night jolt
Shrine Seeking Mechanisms
One of the first complaints made about this mode is how its impossible to find the shrines, meaning the shrine items for the most part go to waste mcause nobody is using them. Considering there are items for finding Draedon's labs, it makes sense to me that there should be a series of items that you can use to seek out the shrines
Anything wrong with this?
night jolt
OK then
pure bluff
iirc shrines are getting changed completely
small timber
onyx excavator is extremely good despite how clunky it is (overpowered even), but ya, shrine rework soon™
sand ermine
onyx excavator is extremely good despite how clunky it is (overpowered even), bu...
i literally didnt even know that existed lmaooooo
small timber
@carmine dagger the effect is way too strong (even game breaking) for it to affect all players on the team
melee and ranged effect is whatever (it is good but not the main purpose), but global mana cost, rogue damage and especially +2 max minion for entire team is straight up broken, because of how much minion scales
the thing about team effect is the more you have they exponentially become stronger, eg: we have affliction which is super strong for teamplay; if we add a 2nd affliction (that stack) then the combined 2 effect become extremely strong; if you add a 3rd affliction it suddenly becomes game breaking
if you just want the accessory to be more useful a more direct way is to just suggest to buff it, instead of like making it have teamplay effect
eternal escarp
as blast says
its not my saying i stole it
also spul artifact is really just
one size fits all accessory
it allowes for slight multiclassing even, it doesnt need to affect all players
hollow shell
Wait those projectiles home?
small timber
ya death mode (and malice)
small timber
but since death only fire 1 laser (rev fire 2) the player can just go the other way and ignore the homing
eternal escarp
though, weird, i couldve sworn she fired lasers twice when i fought her on death
hollow shell
I feel like the homing kinda defeats the point of the touhou-like pattern...
small timber
I think it is just when she get lower hp she attack faster, her attack pattern only has 1 laser
since death have the "lower hp slowly enrage" thing
eternal escarp
ah yeah that would make sense
eternal escarp
I feel like the homing kinda defeats the point of the touhou-like pattern...
also kindof, but yeah what nspqce said
it is more difficult then none homing
hollow shell
Make Death Mode shoot an identical laser out the back of her head simultaneously
so nowhere is safe
small timber
(tbh that will probably look super weird), but ya I think just firing 2 lasers is the more natural approach
considering Revengeance do fire 2 lasers in a row, just Death mode make it 1, for some reason
carmine dagger
the thing about team effect is the more you have they exponentially become stron...
Multiple afflictions do not grant stacked bonuses, so neither should this, and while certain classes get pretty good bonuses, like summoner, others barely matter later in the game, like velocity for ranger, god slayer slugs are like laserbeams anyway.
small timber
Multiple afflictions do not grant stacked bonuses, so neither should this, and w...
the "multiple affliction" thing is just a description of what will happen by having many teamwide effect, in this case, the "2nd affliction" is the eldritch soul artifact you suggested
what I mean is that while having a single exceptional teamwide effect (like affliction) is still fine, the more teamwide effect there exist in the game the stronger they exponentially become (together), which is why eldritch soul artifact becoming teamwide will be very broken
and this is on top of the type of effect the eldritch soul artifact stacks, most notably +2 max minion and mana cost, which is much more valuable than affliction which is just general "good stats"
so if you want the accessory to become teamwide, then it definitely cannot have "+2 max minion" or reduce mana cost because it will be way too broken, maybe even change the rogue bonus just so it will not become a weird "multiplayer all player rogue class item"
soft quest
i thought afflictions didnt stack because it's a status effect that it gives to players and buffs dont stack
sorry i shouldve read
night jolt
@white ice OK that would be cool, but you forgot to add a justification
Like, what is the reason for adding that, and "it would be cool" doesn't count
ruby plover
and also there is no real reason to add it methinks
cosmolight exists
comes off as a SIS
grim tusk
@white ice 
suggs like that are called SIS (Specific item suggestions) and are nto allowed
Also as mentioned here before cosmolight (and also enchanted sundial lol) exist
hollow shell
@umbral sonnet You forgot to actually mention the Seafood item in your sugg title
umbral sonnet
<@714921109962752050> You forgot to actually *mention* the Seafood item in your ...
fixed
thanks
hollow shell
👍
@ashen warren You need to add a line break (Shift+Enter) in between your sugg's title and reason in order for the bot to accept it
small timber
<@456226577798135808> You need to add a line break (Shift+Enter) in between your...
Also I think the title do not have to include the lunatic cultist part,just:
Make the Katana (key component for the omniblade) craftable
Because there is like, 4 other class that do not have to get omniblade and around 500 broadsword you still can get for melee
gray nebula
we already have better ideas for aerialite sorz
umbral sonnet
we already have better ideas for aerialite sorz
YAY
umbral sonnet
dangit
small timber
we already have better ideas for aerialite sorz
@ashen warren ^ (the devs have better idea for aerialite spawn already, though currently 1.4 port is still taking priority)
besides, cloud elemental becoming a pre-HM boss do not really make sense when they can just, you know, make a new boss for that (since it will serve the exact same purpose) instead of reworking a specific HM rare enemy (since it will take about as much effort while not having to be restricted to the design of cloud elemental)
if you just want Cloud Elemental to be relevant it will be easier to just suggest Cloud Elemental to be reworked into a (proper) hardmode miniboss that have actual moves
and ya, boss suggestion is disallowed, eventhough in this case it is "reworking cloud elemental to be a boss" instead of "adding a new boss" (but considering how basic cloud elemental is, it is basically the same)
ashen warren
ah, well at least something's being done with aerialite
pure bluff
is there a good reason that multiclass armors that include stealth dont give any max stealth cus i think that should be done instead of this sugg
small timber
I assume oversight, because only rogue can use stealth anyway
because the rogue beta tester do say multiclass (are) supposed to have stealth, just... they dont right now
pure bluff
maybe make it so stealth from all class armors dont give enhanced movement speed and whatnot and only boosts to rogue weapons
im assuming it would be too op only because stealth gives movement speed and reduces aggro
using weapons from other classes depletes stealth without giving bonuses to that weapons damage
spare hazel
Yeah, I only just thought about just adding stealth onto the multiclass armours after posting. But also it doesn't make too much sense to me to have stealth be tied directly to armor.
spare hazel
Also @ashen warren wdym about stealth having different playstyles? How would this change remove that? In fact it sort of adds to playstyles by letting rogues use multiclass armors
small timber
because if stealth consume like mana it will mean you can stealth strike a lot of time before running out of it
and it will, to put it simply, requires rebalancing on EVERY single rogue weapon in the game
spare hazel
Sorry, my post must have been worded very poorly. I meant to make it work exactly the same as it does now, just have stealth be enabled even when not using specific armors and increase max stealth with consumables.
Rather than using armours to increase max stealth
small timber
if you mean that, it already currently does work like that, except the permanent upgrade part
you can have +max stealth accessory and I think it do work
spare hazel
Yeah, but that wouldn't remove those extra playstyles
spare hazel
if you mean that, it already currently does work like that, except the permanent...
What? Isn't stealth only enabled when wearing rogue specific armor sets?
pure bluff
maybe if proficiency isnt getting removed more rogue stealth can come with proficiency levels so you can use stealth without armor its just very little
pure bluff
What? Isn't stealth only enabled when wearing rogue specific armor sets?
some accessories give rogue stealth
pure bluff
maybe if proficiency isnt getting removed more rogue stealth can come with profi...
stealth generates percentage based right
spare hazel
Yeah I know that. I am basically suggesting have the max stealth increase at the same pace it does now, just make it increase using consumables you would get at the same point as the armors
small timber
What? Isn't stealth only enabled when wearing rogue specific armor sets?
oh ya I forgot it is a bug interaction
crude geode
so make stealth more similar to mana 
spare hazel
Well in the sense of how you get more, not how it is used
small timber
although to put it simply, there are plans on stealth rework (which is soon™) that should make stealth work like the way you suggested (basically armor is not mandatory for stealth strike)
but ya, the permanent upgrade part do not make a lot of sense (until they rebalance it), since otherwise it is free damage
spare hazel
Also, if it is getting reworked I guess this is all moot
pure bluff
what they mean is that using a rogue weapon would still consume 100% of stealth its just that instead of stealth coming from armors it comes from consumables
small timber
the reason mage get it (mana permanent upgrade) is probably just, because vanilla have upgrades and calamity have upgraded life fruits
spare hazel
Well you already get increased max stealth as you get better armors right?
pure bluff
Also, if it is getting reworked I guess this is all moot
but yeah stealth gets reworked some time anyway so ur right
crude geode
haven't heard anything about a stealth rework lol
small timber
thats why it is soon™, if the suggestion get through it likely will have to wait until said stealth rework to be implemented anyway
crude geode
all I'm hearing is randoms saying it
small timber
I heard there is plan to rework stealth, just exactly how is not stated yet
spare hazel
Where did you hear about it?
small timber
since I dont think they like the current stealth system very much
let me see if I can find it
spare hazel
What do they not like about it right now?
small timber
stealth strike being bound to armor
and how every +max stealth accessory basically multiply your damage, even with just +10
drowsy plank
what's the rework planned for mana?
i didnt know that was happening
bleh
aight
guess we'll see
spare hazel
I guess so
crude geode
@hollow shell Do you know if there's any plans surrounding stealth and reworking it?
(not that it really makes this suggestion invalid, just curiosity's sake)
hollow shell
It has not come up in the dev server that I have seen
Maybe in the tester channels I don't look at
Nothin on dev side tho
I was going to say this is a too-grand-scope suggestion but I suppose it wouldn't really be
It's just moving the source of max stealth throughout the game, the mechanics of stealth remain the same
I do think the title line could be worded a bit better
"Change the method of increasing maximum stealth from armor sets to instead be permanent consumables" is a potential rewording
spare hazel
Yeah, I mainly am just suggesting removing stealth being tied to armor. The upgrades was just sort an example of how to go about it.
small timber
Where did you hear about it?
(I am not sure when he become beta tester, but he is basically the main rogue beta tester right now, so I think his word can be taken as true/partially true)
so there is at least plan to rework stealth, just a matter of when it will actually happen
crude geode
considering it's coming from a tester, it might just be regarding damage values/how it scales, and not the overall concept of stealth.
spare hazel
Do I just edit the suggestion or do I resubmit it later?
hollow shell
You can edit it
small timber
I think he did talk about to rework how stealth (stealth itself, not how stealth strike is performed) will get a rework alongside it, but ya
and just for clarification, there is 2 stealth rework, first one is the current system (which basically make stealth generation stacking not as powerful), and then there is a plan one (soon™) to basically solve problem like stealth being armor bound
spare hazel
So the power of stealth was already reworked?
small timber
basically previously you always max stealth regeneration because it is the best dps, now not necessary
spare hazel
I am in a rogue playthrough rn and I still feel that stealth striking is usually better for dps.
hollow shell
So you can have fast weak stealth strikes or slow strong ones
small timber
nah, not "nerf stealth striking", more like "nerf stealth strike with massive stealth regen" and "buff stealth strike when you have low stealth regen"
small timber
basically super fast stealth regen/all reforge to stealth playstyle is no longer essential
spare hazel
Oh I see.
rain blaze
#suggestions-posting message
Ik you've already discussed this one and also this might not be the channel for it, but does the Affliction currently even properly give bonuses to the rest of the team? Because I swear I've not been able to get that to actually work.
small timber
@spare hazel ok regardless of if stealth rework is coming (it probably will be more safe to ask the man directly), the title of your suggestion do not quite fit the reasoning:
The title should be closer to like:
Make Stealth Strike Not Bound To Rogue Armor and add Increase Max Stealth Consumable Item
spare hazel
Are you talking about my old title or the updated title?
small timber
for me it is this, unless discord is lagging
small timber
oh the suggestion is to "remove stealth value from armor completely and make them only be increased from permanent consumable upgrade and accessories?"
spare hazel
I guess armor could be similar to some accesories and also increase max stealth. But yeah, that is the suggestion.
small timber
hmm in that case I guess the title do fit, but ya, just leave the balancing to beta testers
crude geode
hmm in that case I guess the title do fit, but ya, just leave the balancing to b...
this shouldn't really be related to balance lol
spare hazel
Yeah, the actual way they do it is up to them, but mainly just don't tie stealth directly to armor. It could be consumables or something else
crude geode
it's not like a "this weapon is op" sugg or anythin
spare hazel
Yeah, like what I am suggesting won't change the balance, just change the source of stealth
crude geode
(and even then we still get those suggestions cuz the 'don't' against it is down for the time being)
small timber
because you will have to be like, "pre-HM: you cant stealth strike until you craft this consumable which player might not even know exist", "HM: how many consumable do you need to craft since each rogue armor have increasing stealth value", "post-ML: same with HM", but ya
and other things like how do they split the consumable by tier so stealth value is still upgraded with each tier of (current) rogue armor upgrades, since they do have increasing stealth value for later armor
spare hazel
They dont increase too often, for HM, one after cryogen, calamitas, ML, polterghast, and yharon
And for pre HM, you get extra stealth after Desert Scourge and Hive Mind/Perforators, and that is it
small timber
they do upgrade here and there (and I dont know how large is those 5/10 increase), but ya, leave it for beta tester since I cant say for sure
fringe notch
@small timber beetle armour makes no sense to be included in your suggestion, as it's an upgrade to turtle armour, not a chlorophyte varient
small timber
<@290083110312214528> beetle armour makes no sense to be included in your sugges...
done
I think my thought process weird out in that I somehow thought it is possible to "revert" like shroomite/spectre back to chlorophyte therefore to make it into beetle, but it completely doesnt make sense (since even if that is the case, can just craft into turtle armor first)
short walrus
Why the fuck do I keep getting notifications from posting even though nothing is there
gray nebula
please adress how it would work with the different helmets
🥺 since it may feel odd to some
orchid briar
Allow for the uncrafting of every single item in the game
small timber
hmm that one I am not sure about, originally I thought for it to be like "you can just use any chlorophyte helmet to craft into any upgrade set helmet"
but then I realise each chlorophyte helmet is actually correspond to an upgrade set, since the chlorophyte helmets are melee, ranger and mage respectively
golden tulip
Why the fuck do I keep getting notifications from posting even though nothing is...
probably people posting and then deleting
short walrus
True
eternal escarp
but then I realise each chlorophyte helmet is actually correspond to an upgrade ...
tbf it doesnt matter they all use the same amount of bars
if the logic here is the recipe then i dont think it matters what the helmet is because in "theory" you can just use the same amount of bars / the helmet to "convert" it to the other in the recipe or whatever
soft quest
I love that chlorophyte idea honestly
I always want to Make chloro armor but then I’m like “do I really wanna get 400 more ore after this one fight”
So I 90% of the time skip it
small timber
tbf it doesnt matter they all use the same amount of bars
nah that one is for the "class", since chlorophyte do have melee, ranger, mage; corresponding to turtle, shroomite and spectre respectively
although I do think just have all of the chlorophyte helmet to be convertible to whatever upgraded class is better, since otherwise there is still a helmet cost (and possible confusion)
night jolt
Speaking of armor sets made with chlorophyte
Does anyone else think its weird how vanilla Terraria only has one of those sets be further upgradable?
small timber
I think it is more weird that for some reason only melee is immediately upgraded
night jolt
All of these sets have different helmests with different effects for their particular class, but only the Turtle armor is able to be upgraded
small timber
vanilla tend to have a melee bias (except for actual viability), simply see terrablade, zenith or even beetle armor
even the new 1.4.4 showcase/spoiler is almost exclusively melee rework
the only one that get even nearly the same treatment is summoner, but in that case is because summoner is so weak that the game basically only have 3 class before that patch adds whips and more summon weapon
arctic apex
That’s fax
Vanilla ranger class feels so dead
Idk about mage I’ve never tried that
But I’ve done melee and summoner
A few times as well
worthy lintel
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sand ermine
maybe the katana's crafting recipe could be like iron, wood and souls of light and night?
then again it is a pre-hardmode thing iirc
so maybe iron bars, wood, demonite/crimtane bars and shadow scales/tissue samples
grim tusk
why does everyone want stuff to be crafted
there are more ways to make items obtainable
umbral sonnet
why does everyone want stuff to be crafted
yea ya know what
warped tide
and yet
night jolt
Maybe have the Katana be a King Slime drop?
umbral sonnet
and make them only spawn once every hour
grim tusk
Maybe have the Katana be a King Slime drop?
thats what I thought of as well
umbral sonnet
and randomly make them generate
crude geode
why does everyone want stuff to be crafted
Calamity players only know crafting and killing bosses
night jolt
I know "piggyback suggestions" aren't allowed, but now that I thought of it, a King Slime drop for the Katana is so obvious to me that I want to suggest it
crude geode
Wait for the katana sugg to (maybe) fail lol
Honestly I think that adding Draedon was possibly a mistake. Just adds to the notion that calamity is only about bosses and nothing else.
night jolt
Its not the fault of the devs or the bosses they add that dumbasses are gonna generalize the entire mod
And even if it were, I don't think that wouldn't be a bad thing
half sage
Honestly I think that adding Draedon was possibly a mistake. Just adds to the no...
at least there'll one major non boss update before yharim
biome overhauls my beloved
crude geode
I doubt Yharim is coming anytime soon
hot zephyr
Yharim is coming in
half sage
I doubt Yharim is coming anytime soon
yea I wanted to say at least one cuz it'll probably be a long time until yharim but didn't wanna say at least twice in a row in the same sentence
arctic apex
Honestly I think that adding Draedon was possibly a mistake. Just adds to the no...
Tbh I don’t mind that
Bosses in calamity are sick and I like spending time on the game
I don’t mind grinding to farm each boss
Like so many people fight a boss and immediately wanna go to the next but I feel that grinding in between each boss is one of the things that makes the boss fights in calamity so enjoyable
dim osprey
There should be more intermediate content
Like mining
Building
Stuff like that
Fighting mobs
arctic apex
Yh see like that would be cool
arctic apex
So many people play the mod just for bosses
I like to play for the general progression
More to do
More replay ability
dim osprey
I remember someone throwing around ideas of a new event
Like a plague event or something
arctic apex
That’s what I think would be a cool next addition I was thinking of another event like that as well
arctic apex
Something I though that would be cool would be like a sky boss or something
Kinda like storm weaver but not a worm
arctic apex
That would be cool
dim osprey
I think statis was supposed to be like a mutated bird thing
And braleaor was like a bear or smth
At least that’s what I remember from the scrapped bosses doc
bright crag
Mutated dead ninja and mutated dead tank warrior respectively
dim osprey
Yes
arctic apex
I heard someone say cloud elemental could be transformed into a pre hard mode boss
Like brimstone elemental
Even tho it is hardmode
dim osprey
Could gain new drops in hard mode
Starting as a pre hm boss
Then gaining the drops it has now
arctic apex
Yh something like that
dim osprey
Or smth
night jolt
I heard someone say cloud elemental could be transformed into a pre hard mode bo...
Yeah, and that conversation got cut short by people rightfully pointing out that thats a stupid suggestion, and Aerialite can be reworked without the Cloud Elemental
umbral sonnet
That’s what I think would be a cool next addition I was thinking of another even...
what about some sort of underworld event where you fight past bosses reincarnated into minibosses
as like an endgame event
like you could have a golem miniboss where its just the head
arctic apex
Yeah, and that conversation got cut short by people rightfully pointing out that...
Why would it be bad?
night jolt
Because taking a random miniboss and turning into a full on boss is probably way harder than it sounds
tardy smelt
what about some sort of underworld event where you fight past bosses reincarnat...
How about no specific content suggestions
frail mantle
what about some sort of underworld event where you fight past bosses reincarnat...
sounds interesting
could be, like, an event where you fight every boss in the game back to back
a boss rush, if you will
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hollow shell
Slime God sugg may have better odds if it's edited somehow
Not sure what edits exactly, sugg seems to lay out its claims pretty clearly
Wait what the fuck I totally missed this
This ain't valid, fuck
Rework the Cloud Elemental into a pre-hm boss roughly around the same point of progression as HMind/Perfs
This may seem like a somewhat bold move, perhaps because it is, but I have some reasons. Firstly, the fact that the calamity evil boss is what spawns in aerealite doesn't make all that much sense, and the boss prerequisite might as well share it's theming. Secondly, the Cloud Elemental doesn't serve too much purpose as it stands, being little more than a challenging pre-mechs enemy to grind out it's HoTE component for summoners, and a uncommon nusiance for all the other classes (I mean, it doesalso drop a sword, but that weapon is little more than another straw in calamity's melee haystack). Lastly, the Cloud Elemental as a boss would be in good company, as it would be the third "elemental" boss, so it's rework and inclusion wouldn't be too completely radical in terms of making strong enemies into bosses ( cough Cnidrion cough cough ).
the text, for posterity
All it needed to do was change "boss" to "miniboss"
Just, moving the entity to PreHM and tying Aerialite to it
Can't suggest new bosses
@ashen warren Sorry for not saying/doing anything earlier
short walrus
@tidal epoch future content Sugg (don't)
small timber
and this is on top of the fact that calamity's health bar is completely disableable
lucid marsh
Hey what do you guys think about Cnidrion rehydrating if is in an ocean biome? Ocean biomes count as deserts so they spawn them sometimes, so instead of needing to fix that, which didn't work when it was tried, making them rehydrate and get stronger would be cool
hot zephyr
desert oasis
lucid marsh
I mean they could also rehydrate in those
Maybe this could make them drop victory shards again
fringe notch
Slime God sugg may have better odds if it's edited somehow
yeah, i guess, i just couldnt figure out what to edit if i tried, which i did