suggestions-discussion

[keen zealot]

#suggestions-voting message @pastel wind there's already a mod that does this, it's called 'The' Fixer

not sure if anyone already said this but it is worth mentioning

[pastel wind]

oh lmao

[frozen hornet]

Yo nice

You're a lifesaver I've been looking for something like that for months

[hearty oyster]

some modded weapons, especially ones that give you multiple buffs when you summon it, still have issues. Like kifrosse from the stars above, when you die it still keeps the summons but there is no buff icon which allows you to summon a second one (it uses all minion slots normally)

[cobalt heath]

bad sug

[small timber]

technically it is to make calamity's vanilla changes more consistent, because things like hermes boots, aglet, water walking boots all have crafting recipe, but I will like to quote rover again

[cobalt heath]

becides, those items are really easy to get

[ruby plover]

ah, the good old rover quote

[small timber]

something something "Calamity player want to play the game less"

[ruby plover]

also, pretty sure the shoe spike thingies can be found in wooden crates

aaand, bandit sells tiger climbing gear

[warped tide]

This

[cobalt pewter]

hot take: instead of crafting, climbing claws and shoe spikes should always be sold by Bandit

oh wait

I am dum

I forgot she sells the combination acc instead

[calm elm]

lo

[cobalt heath]

specific item sugg

BANNED

[calm elm]

Bad suggestion yes but a plague dye would actually be sick

Doesnt warrant a suggestion though nonetheless

[cobalt heath]

im sorry i have to pull out the mod card

wait do i?

no i dont

[ripe owl]

It sounds like irony

[eternal escarp]

none of these are self explanatory and none of these have good reasoning
and the first two were already removed from the game

[dark marten]

I just want them back cause it was fun

[eternal escarp]

you cant suggest for content that was removed, its a Don't

[dark marten]

ah

[small timber]

and also it is multiple suggestion in 1

[dark marten]

well gimme a sec

[small timber]

1 shot mode is now part of nycro's nohit proficiency mode; malice challenge item you have to replay old version of the game (since suggestion to revert is prohibited), or you can just get them right now, they still exist just not as powerful (though different acquisition method); evasion scarf upgrade will be kinda pointless (and overpowered)

[digital saddle]

Omega cringe behavior

[dark marten]

nycro's nohit proficiency mode???

[eternal escarp]

nycro's nohit efficiency mod*

[small timber]

basically the mod you use for things like 1 shot mode now

(don't criticize my potato memory)

[eternal escarp]

[dark marten]

oh

well ok

but I still like the evasion scarf idea

[eternal escarp]

and youd still need to give reasoning for it

"itd be fun" isnt a great reason

(also using dodges for nohits is kinda cringe.,,.)

[dark marten]

bruh

[small timber]

evasion scarf upgrade "kinda" exist, basically just ninja gear line or asgard's valor line

[eternal escarp]

you need a valid reason as to why it needs an upgrade

[small timber]

an actual functionality similar evasion scarf but late game level will unironically be extremely overpowered

you can use evasion scarf on scal and it likely will work

[eternal escarp]

ramming is already really powerful

[dark marten]

fair point

welp

[frozen hornet]

I thought dodges are banned?

[small timber]

dodges with the default setting do not work now

including GSD, counter scarf don't even work even if you use it to bonk contact damage

[frozen hornet]

For nohits?

damn

[small timber]

nycro's nohit default nohit setting, basically it is armageddon right click by default (and I am unsure if you can turn it off)

[sleek turret]

I think you can actually

[unique vector]

based sugg

[cobalt pewter]

dog has always been an enigma

on surface it's the most praised boss but when people play it there are problems

[sudden monolith]

My brain just can't wrap around it somehow.

I thought I was the only one but then I saw Phantasm's stream where he had to cheese it while literally beating every other boss with true melee - in expert.

So i wasn't the only one who thought Expert DoG was harder than expert Yharon, Exo mechs, etc

[grim tusk]

I did not find DoG harder than Yharon in general

[sudden monolith]

what mode?

[grim tusk]

Rev, Death and Malice

[sudden monolith]

Right, I'm only talking about expert

I think revengeance makes DoG easier since the gaps in fighting help with building up adrenaline

[grim tusk]

I did not use adrenaline btw (except malice)

Gotta test DoG not bugging the fuck out and weapons

DoG requires to have a well rounded loadout

You cannot longer run glass cannon and get away with it

What I see with players fighting DoG is that they try to fight it like old DoG

[sudden monolith]

My suggestion relates to Devourer of Gods being harder than other bosses only in Expert mode. If you ever have time, it'd be interesting to have you try the last 5 bosses in expert only to see your opinion then

[grim tusk]

Last time I tried expert it was too easy

Scal having less moons makes her a breeze

Exos give you far more breathing room

Yharon also is easier to get away from

[sudden monolith]

Yes, I agree completely. That's why I think those bosses are all easier in expert. But I don't think DoG is easier enough in expert compared to them

I'm going to draw a picture in a sec

[grim tusk]

For new DoG, since he accelerates a lot I like changing my direction so that it doesnt coil me up

If it does just RoD/NR/Spectral veil

Or ram through its segments

[sudden monolith]

I think bosses get harder smoothly in each difficulty except Expert

I never though of ramming through segments, good idea

[grim tusk]

Ramming can save you in a pinch from the head

Very helpful

[small timber]

does dog accelerate extremely fast in expert? I thought it is rev (or death+) only

[grim tusk]

DoG train can happen in many situations, the most common being: using nohit world

[small timber]

@coarse tartan #suggestions-voting message this suggestion already exist, on the other hand a suggestion that is solely for the purpose of "this will be cool" need additional reasoning

I am surprise it is specifically because of using a nohit world, I just thought it is his AI being funny

didnt expect the worm phase AI block collision thing to be this big of a deal

[sudden monolith]

Doesn't DoG just do a catchup thing if you're far away? It's nasty but not too bad to avoid. I think it happens in all modes

[small timber]

nono I was referring to this (at least partially)

[grim tusk]

Yes which causes train worms if too far, blocks slow it down and make it not that fast

[grim tusk]

🚅

[sudden monolith]

I think I found 'the issue' I have. Look at these damage numbers from the 1.5 patch notes:
"Increased phase 1 head damage from 250 / 500 / 550 to 300 / 600 / 650 / 680.
Increased phase 2 head damage from 300 / 600 / 650 to 350 / 700 / 750 / 780."

Expert is literally double normal but almost the same as revengeance

and death

[small timber]

although I am unsure how many people use long platform for DoG, not necessarily nohit world level, like 10+ row super platform, but just like 1-2

rev and death tend to actually not increase damage number by too much

[grim tusk]

Expert in vanilla is basically x2 dmg, which caused that

[small timber]

^ ya and this

[grim tusk]

Now imagine Master mode DoG

[sudden monolith]

yeah I just cheked other bosses and they're the same, so I guess I'm wrong here

[small timber]

(thank god there is rumour that rev will be intergrated or master gonna be painful)

[sudden monolith]

I know it's a skill issue, I'm just hoping for a nerf for the non-skill issue modes

[small timber]

just for reference may you describe how you generally fight DoG?

[grim tusk]

There are no plans for master atm

[sudden monolith]

two long asphalt platforms, run away and jump over when it gets close, fly in circular motion when it teleports

shoot at head/tail

[small timber]

hmm, then the problem you face is him just charge extremely fast at you? I assume

[sudden monolith]

Mostly it's in the second phase where when you dodge he follows your dodge

[small timber]

because I dont see anything wrong with that strategy

oh that one, to put it simply DoG now is much more capable of doing sharper turn, you basically have to tilt him much more before dashing

it is basically just a slight adjustment you have to make and you will be fine

[sudden monolith]

I think it's due to lack of practice. I've beaten MMFTW before without cheesing, but it's because I had 1400+ hrs and knew the patterns. Calamity's just new for me

[grim tusk]

Yea that too

[small timber]

ya I think get more practice and it should probably be no problem

[grim tusk]

Never expect to beat Cal bosses under 20-40 tries if its your first time

[sudden monolith]

What reforges would you recommend for DoG? That's my last real question

[grim tusk]

3 W, 1 Q, 3 M

[small timber]

(although abit out of topic), just full warding should just work

[grim tusk]

Unlike vanilla warding is very valuable here

[small timber]

this work too but if you are using tracers I think full warding will be more friendly to fresh fight

[sudden monolith]

hmm well thanks for the help. Maybe I'll withdraw my suggestion and just go practice more

[grim tusk]

Elysian wings give +15% movement speed

[small timber]

wait doesn't the tooltip say 15

no wonder it is so good if it is actually 40

[grim tusk]

Oh yea its 15

Still extremely good

[small timber]

I think (assuming new player), cant really expect to full buff potions so tracer likely will work slightly better

[sudden monolith]

Any video recommendations? A lot of them are outdated/old strategies

[grim tusk]

I dont think people have recorded new DoG

[sudden monolith]

That would be fine, actually

Thanks!

I've got it saved now

[grim tusk]

Nohit

Yea it could be useful for seeing how to dodge boss, but gear def no

That gear leaves little to no room for error

[sudden monolith]

I'm just looking for movement ideas, so this is great

That makes sense

[cobalt pewter]

pff

#suggestions-voting message

@coarse tartan you might need to elaborate the existence for said attack in the context of gameplay, how it'd help the weapon etc

and a visual reference on the sugg could help too (like the sugg i linked)

actually

what's the consensus with an already approved post ages ago

[small timber]

^ this too

[coarse tartan]

Yeah I didn't see it

And they did do it much better

[small timber]

@dusty path #suggestions-voting message this suggestion already exist (and seeing the vote amount, very likely get to the devs)

while not exactly the same idea, it is about the same intention

[dusty path]

Did you even read it?

[dusty path]

Oh, ok

[small timber]

intention is you can damage it (just not nuke it) during spawn, right?

[dusty path]

Yes

[small timber]

since the tagged suggestion basically is for the samething, just through implementing a different mechanic

[dusty path]

But the invincibility of a segment is shared with all of them

[coarse tartan]

I think the current wormness is alright as it makes pierce better

[small timber]

I think that will be a bit weird, because it causes piercing weapon to be completely useless at spawn (instead of at least still can damage)

so basically will be very similar to how it is currently, where you cant deal damage, but only for piercing weapon

the tagged suggestion will be more applicable to different type of weapon

[dusty path]

And DoG doesn't has a spawn animation

[small timber]

DoG one I think is just straight up the body and tail don't have a hitbox after teleport (as in, you literally cannot hit it)

so a different situation, if that is what you want to suggest then go ahead

since if that is what you want to achieve it should be distinctly different from the one I tagged

the one you are suggesting right now is basically "if I hit head I can't hit body/tail", DoG is "only head can be hit, other part is straight up invincible"

[grim tusk]

If all worm segments share the same iframes it will completely make AoE kind of pointless
Furthermore i highly doubt it is possible and if it would be laggy as fuck

@dusty path your sugg also no reasoning

[dusty path]

I can't create one

[small timber]

I mean it is just on spawn (basically replace 99% DR)

[grim tusk]

Then you cant make a sugg

[small timber]

just ya, it will make certain weapon basically useless (just instead of all weapon useless like right now) on spawn

[grim tusk]

@upper merlin @dapper thicket i suggest you add more reasoning so that it is not as vague

[cobalt heath]

destroyer reasoning!^¨

@hollow shell i think we have a reasoning issue here

[hollow shell]

Dr Moo's sugg looks good now

Redestroyer definitely needs more. There's no reasoning atm, only a proposal

Quartz needs more too. And they should acknowledge the Bandit selling Tiger Climbing Gear

[cobalt heath]

and to quote you

it seems that people don't want to play the game nowadays

[hollow shell]

We should triple the ingredient costs for all our existing vanilla recipes

[fossil bronze]

iirc climbing claws are pretty common from crates anyway

even if you don't find them from exploration, you'll probably find them just by fishing up crates for other loot

[cobalt heath]

just for the common items

[small timber]

currently you can craft hermes boots immediately with items from starter bag if you acquire like 50 spider webs and some wood

[hollow shell]

That was originally because early game movement sucked ass but we added another questionable solution to that since then

buffing the player's base movespeed

[fossil bronze]

actually, the fact that a lot of the items from exploration/fishing can be crafted is kinda weird

[drowsy plank]

items like band of regen and shoe spikes really should have renewable ways to obtain them i feel, regardless of the fact that they're much more accessible now with the early game fixes, especially when they're part of massive trees

[fossil bronze]

some stuff like lava charm makes sense, since you can't fish it and it's really rare in 1.4 fishing anyway

[small timber]

I think fishing is a vanilla fail safe, but ya them being craftable is a bit weird, or redundant, with the new movement system

[fossil bronze]

but things like ice skates don't make much sense
unless they were changed in 1.4

[drowsy plank]

i still dont get why only claws are fishing obtainable

[small timber]

although I do think those items being craftable still have benefits, because it prevents the unlucky situation that the player just cant find it (which sometimes happen), just ya, higher cost

eg: accessory like anklet of the wind have reasonable crafting cost

[hollow shell]

Can't remember, did we remove the debuff versions of Health Potion Sickness and Chaos State since we added them to the new cooldown rack?

[small timber]

they still exist as debuff yes

[hollow shell]

Ok

[small timber]

and it is intentional, if I remember, some devs/tester said

[hollow shell]

I remember that was a slightly contested topic in the dev server yeah

That it would be safer to keep them in both forms

[drowsy plank]

is it for mod compatibility or something? or to make sure accessories that effect them still work?

[hollow shell]

I'm surprised your suggestion doesn't mention pets and light pets at all

And yeah mod compatibility was a factor

[small timber]

I wanted to avoid it (since it can be argued to "just turn it off lol"), but since it is mentioned I will add it too

[hollow shell]

Yeah I think it's worth mentioning

Cuz it means that vanity now becomes a balancing concern

when it really should not

[small timber]

ya on that sense definitely very relevant

I dont think the solution is perfect tbh, but it had been a problem for so long that it need to be brought to attention (again)

otherwise it will likely just stay that way

[hollow shell]

I mean

The Wolf and Angry Dog are not directly correlated

And Angry Dog is not that much larger than Wolf

btw we're renaming Angry Dog for the 1.4 port cuz its current name sucks

[small timber]

and wolf is a lot more dangerous than, you know, angry dog

Time for the classic Rover quote of something something "I believe Terraria player really dont want to play the game"

[hollow shell]

booooo "make this rare item not rare because I don't understand that that's what makes it hype in the first place"

[gray nebula]

[sleek wadi]

I'd argue Arkhalis' hype comes from its unique attack style in vanilla moreso than the rarity but the rarity does enhance that

[hollow shell]

The hype is indeed twofold

[sleek wadi]

I wouldn't mind a more consistent arkhalis but I'd prefer bringing say, mycelium claws to its level

[frail mantle]

arkhalis when 1.4 added a weapon that was literally completely identical but green and with slightly less damage

[fossil bronze]

iirc that was just because they wanted to make it part of a developer set

[sleek wadi]

Vanilla dev weapon moments

[fossil bronze]

but also to have a rare sword shrine sword

[drowsy plank]

i like rare items but i also like actually bothering to use them, and arkhalis doesn't really fall into the space of good enough to go out of the way to get or common enough that you might try using it anyway, so i get it, but i also dont think you explicitly need it for anything, so i think it's fine where it is

[outer root]

I get having rare items in games and those items being hype beacuse of their rarity, but it is strange to see things like the Blossom Flux be moved from 1% in revengeance drop to malice drop to 10% drop while the Arkhalis is kept rare.

[distant gyro]

it used to be 0.1% tbf

[fossil finch]

legendaries are also on a comedically different branch than arkhalis

[distant gyro]

from never get it% to never get it%

[fossil bronze]

the 1% rev drops drop rate sucked because iirc they were actually really good

arkhalis doesn't look extremely powerful to me

although i've never gotten it so idk

[sleek wadi]

Don't know if it received the same sauce as other pre-HM true melee weapons in 1.5, but I'd imagine it's outclassed by Blade of Grass entirely in pre-boss, both of em being similarly hard to get at that point

[bronze summit]

Arkhalis is basically a nice beginning weapon to shread monsters

(got it from the first ever cosmic elemental in a world twice)

[outer root]

what is that, a 1/40000 chance?

[bronze summit]

can agree tho that it feels like have it or not

1st time was literally my first time playing calamity

bless the elemental

(and the incredible luck)

[calm elm]

Arkhalis is just one of those neat little rare weapons you might come across

I personally believe it doesnt need to be touched at all in terms of obtaining

[sleek wadi]

If it ends up performing similarly to other on-tier true melee weapons, it could do with either a buff to justify the rarity or to not be rare in the first place. If it doesn't have the power to back up its rarity it goes from "really hype to get" to "oh that's neat, trash it". Gonna have to test it against some early bosses and compare to stuff like Blade of Grass

[frail mantle]

suggesting shadowspec items is disallowed

shadowspec is restricted to dedicated dev items only, and dev items are only added when a dev asks for one

[hollow shell]

@golden kiln ^

[golden kiln]

Ah

[hollow shell]

I suppose you could change your suggestion to refer to endgame (i.e. SCal and Draedon drops/crafts) but not specifically Shadowspec

if you want

[golden kiln]

I've fixed my suggestion. Sorry I didn't know shadowspec was stuff specifically suggested by the devs

[warped tide]

i will single handedly become dev just to have an item

[hot zephyr]

i actually kinda agree with the arkhalis suggestion

although I think the recipe should be locked to hardmode

[warped tide]

aka cosmic moth armor that makes mage fucking broken

[hot zephyr]

[warped tide]

death

no more mage armors

ever

period

[hot zephyr]

my concepts for a true melee mage multiclass armor and a movement-based mage armor:

[golden kiln]

They need more items that add effects to mage weapons

[muted vale]

Rouge needs more armor, it can't even use multiclass armor

[fossil bronze]

i kinda want to make a sugg to rework how rogue stealth is enabled

so that you can use multiclass or classless armor

but idk how to handle it

[muted vale]

it would be cool if there was a buff that increases max stealth

Also stealth regen is either perfect or awful depending on the boss you're fighting

If you can take a break for a moment and sit still, it's great

If the boss is 'run in a straight line always' (WoF), then its godawful

[fossil finch]

this is in no way true

you are absolutely never required to remain still to properly use stealth and even then all fights do have moments where you can stay still for a second or two of faster regeneration

[muted vale]

3 times slower steath regen is still a lot, considering stealth rouge is far better than spam

Perhaps WoF was a poor example, but it does depend on the phase and usually phases where you can regen stealth are easier to dodge

It also depends on your playstyle

And the weapon

For example, using a shorter-range weapon against slime god will make you take triple-digit damage in a matter of seconds if you sit still for too long

I understand what you mean, and it gets better if you're careful about balancing stealth and mobility

[fossil finch]

The solution is simply getting good

[golden tulip]

huh ur right

never noticed theres this little amount of accessories post-scal or draedon

[fossil finch]

cuz' it is virtually useless to have accs there
anyways what

unless i'm absolutely forgetting something, post scal and draed accs are:
Angelic Alliance (Dev)
Draedon's Heart
Calamity

where is the other summon acc??????

psc i guess

[distant gyro]

psc

real

[fossil finch]

in any case both are dev so we should be only counting heart and calamity here i think

[golden kiln]

Well no bc you still have wyrm and boss rush

[fossil finch]

wyrm is a meme and boss rush

[fossil finch]

oh and shattered community

[golden kiln]

Yeah I forgot that one

[fossil finch]

you should at least acknowledge the existence of calamity, draedons heart and shattered community

[violet dagger]

I think that's the point...

the second phase is supposed to be harder

responding to the latest suggestion in posting

[boreal prairie]

I accidentally pressed enter twice on my suggestion but hopefully it makes sense

[unique vector]

many dog suggs

what they doin

[boreal prairie]

dog has been very frustrating for my first death mode playthrough and just pretty unfair and boring

[distant gyro]

no one can conclude what the dog doing

some people saying phase 1 is harder after the buff

[boreal prairie]

what are they on

[golden kiln]

I adore DoG he's was my fav. Especially with the sentinels

[boreal prairie]

I have no hit the first phase and died to the second phase when its below 20% health like 10 times

[golden kiln]

Kinda the point.. the first phase is a much easier version of the second

[unique vector]

when the player difficulty is subjective

imagine if this was elden ring suggs

the amt of boss suggs abt removing first phases LMAO

[half sage]

80000 "nerf malenia" posts

[boreal prairie]

yeah but if I have to grind the first part until it becomes free I just dont see a point to it existing

at least make it significant enough to like matter is what im saying

[golden kiln]

Ok would you rather start at the hard phase and take down it's full health like that

[unique vector]

then what about the initial experience

[golden kiln]

It's like how calamitas clone is an easier scal it teaches you how to do it

[boreal prairie]

I didnt say it had to be harder

[unique vector]

as a counterweight, you're also making it more of a time-consuming slog for someone who wants to practice the 2nd phase of a boss because they now have to get through a harder first phase

🤨

[boreal prairie]

harder than the second half I mean

[unique vector]

i also dont rlly see how more health = more challenging

that just sounds like stat bloat

are you complaining phase 1 is too boring? doesnt have enough player interaction to be enjoyable? is it too easy?

[boreal prairie]

its too easy in comparison to the second half

[golden kiln]

THATS THE DAMN POINT

[unique vector]

calm down

[boreal prairie]

from my perspective that makes it boring

but I guess thats subjective

[unique vector]

im only being critical here bc boss rework suggs need a LOT of effort and thought behind it for us to consider it

everyone has a subjective take on whats fun or interesting

and since bosses are a really big portion and undertaking of game design u need to be precise with what u want

how would you make phase 1 harder without being annoying to get through?

[boreal prairie]

I think I should probably rephrase what I mean with it

[unique vector]

what problems or weak areas of the fight do you want to highlight?

i would reword your suggestion yea

[boreal prairie]

ok let me work on that

[fossil finch]

blah blah farming blah blah can we make not everything crafted for the sake of grinding reduction blah blah whatever

[errant cloud]

is that in a reply to me or

[ruby plover]

i'd assume so

also, having the recipe contain 2/3 of something that drops from the enemy that the necklace drops from is a bit eh

at that point, just boost the drop chance on the necklace

[errant cloud]

It's a good alternative, but I see no reason to when many other accessories are craftable

[hollow shell]

Preliminary recipe prolly isn't needed at all

You'll get complaints about it

[boreal prairie]

ok I rephrased my ideas

hopefully its coherent and makes some sense

definitely not the best writer

[errant cloud]

If you'd rather me remove the recipe I can; I'm equally as willing to work with those who complain in an effort to find a balanced crafting recipe

[fossil finch]

just buff the drop rate imo

the fact there's precedent doesn't make it good
Not everything should be obtainable through crafting "because it is needed and rare/semi rare"

[hollow shell]

This sugg being to add a recipe is perfectly reasonable imo

Jellyfish Necklace is an item that is very much similar to other items that we give recipes to

I am not a big fan of the trend in general but it would fit our trend totally fine

[errant cloud]

In an order of importance though there's a difference between "this is somewhat needed and I have lots of time to craft it so it's not a big deal" versus "this is literally a child item to one of the most important items in the mod for non-linear progression"

[fossil finch]

i'd argue diving gear isn't that important but that won't go anywhere

[unique vector]

i thought a jellyfish necklace sugg got denied a while ago

[fossil finch]

yes and the point would be again that the trend would be better off killed and replaced with something better than expanded infinitely because "it fits"

[errant cloud]

Well that's neither here nor there Neko, a better system for obtaining accessories is a nice thought but takes a lot more work than merely doing what Rover suggests (sticking to the trend)

As I've generally seen it so far I'd ration out the recipe could be removed

Is that also your opinion Rover

[fossil finch]

don't think workload is a concern here tbh

[golden kiln]

Eh abysal diving gear is helpful

[errant cloud]

I would have no idea, I haven't checked previous suggestions but I'll do that

[fossil finch]

read the message you just answered

[errant cloud]

The answer is no, there is no previous suggestions for it

o7

[fossil finch]

in any case uhhhh there's no more points to be made honestly so i'll just leave it here

[errant cloud]

it's fine

[fossil finch]

there is

[errant cloud]

oh, i just searched jellyfish and left it at that

[fossil finch]

this is literally also searching jellyfish

just in #suggestions-voting specifically because i don't want the 3 billion mentions of jellyfishes on caltalk

this is the only one to have ever been delivered

[errant cloud]

i had searched in #suggestions-posting, maybe that's why

[fossil finch]

suggs posting literally deletes all messages over 24 hours old

[errant cloud]

ok

[boreal prairie]

im gonna delete my suggession I think in hindsight I kind of just made it out of frustration

[swift wharf]

By the point that you need the necklace you can farm enemies easily

[warped tide]

Wait wait tell me more

[hot zephyr]

no

they exist only in my mind

[swift wharf]

And the accessory on its own is not useful enough to get a recipe imo

[fossil finch]

rebecca has been at this since long ago

[warped tide]

but CONCEPT

also if it restores mana on hit i want a refund

[boreal prairie]

I think DoG has problems but I cant really think of how to improve it so its probably a skill issue

[errant cloud]

it's used to make the abyssal diving gear/suit. >.>

[swift wharf]

I know

by that point

you have zerg

I play too much payday

so you can just
farm it easily

[golden kiln]

Just take two minutes to farm it in the ocean

[swift wharf]

You get too many jellyfish necklaces in a playthrough

[golden kiln]

If you try to get the community more than likely you'll get one

[errant cloud]

If you have to resort to using Zerg Potions to farm enemies, that's a good sign the drop rate of the original accessory item is too low. You can either approach it by making the item freely craftable, or you can alternatively do what Neko suggested (buffing the drop rate)

Zerg Potions are a crutch argument

Theoretically, I could obtain all the dropped accessories to make the entire Ankh Charm using Zerg Potions. Does that mean I should? No

[crude geode]

When players generally want to explore the abyss pre slime god for the weapons, it would be nice to not just have to rely on chance + water candle/battle pot

[golden kiln]

Yeah but those enemies are out of the way unlike jellyfish which you see all the time

[crude geode]

either through increasing the drop rate or by making it craftable

[errant cloud]

Not really, the spawnrate of jellyfish are highest in the ocean, and there's generally only ever 3 jellyfish every 10-25 seconds

It sounds like a fair amount, and it would maybe be for a 1/50 drop chance (2%) but not a 1/100 drop chance (1%)

[fossil bronze]

maybe hardmode biome jellyfish could drop it at an increased rate?
although idk how much harder they are to kill than normal jellyfish

if we want to keep the focus on drops

[crude geode]

consider: pre-hm abyss exploration

[errant cloud]

Consider: the only enemy I know of that drops a Jellyfish Necklace in the Abyss is the Mirage Jelly, at an equal 1% drop rate

Also, the Mirage Jelly is on layer 3.

[fossil bronze]

mirage jelly also drops the vital/life/mana jellies at a doubled rate t ovanilla jellies

[crude geode]

I'm talking about this message

[errant cloud]

Oh

[crude geode]

[fossil bronze]

so it could also have an increased chance to drop the necklace

maybe like 5-10%

[crude geode]

doesn't sound like the best solution over just increasing the drop rate from normal enemies/making it craftable

[fossil bronze]

that works too

actually, scratch my previous ideas, i like that the best

jellyfish also drop the mana/life/vital jellies, which are better than the necklace iirc and have a much higher drop rate

[errant cloud]

Suggestion has been tweaked

o7

[hollow shell]

This looks aight

[outer root]

no glow sticks in the recipe?

[errant cloud]

No. Ideally, you never want to go over 3 required items for the stage you would craft the necklace at

[outer root]

i mean it misses the point of providing light without it

[errant cloud]

I edited it to list 25 glowsticks as an alternative

That's about all I'm willing to do as I'd like the suggestion itself to not become cluttered

Also as I said likewise

It should be noted that the proposed drop rate change/crafting recipe can be tweaked where needed.

[crude geode]

I think you might just wanna remove the recipe

seems a bit specific for not much benefit to the sugg

[errant cloud]

I dislike writing suggestions out in a static manner because often times once they're past voting stage, the devs like to tweak them to what feels most fair

Also the crafting recipe I'm leaving in

It's important to realize where I can't please everybody, and this is that point

(also, at this point I will be out of #suggestions-discussion to play the game and relax in cmt/1.4pt, so @ me if something is needed, thanks)

[gray nebula]

oo aa add recipe to every item in the game

[unique vector]

insanity

[gray nebula]

there you go

[fossil bronze]

calamity players when they have to fight enemies instead of just crafting everything

[gray nebula]

just make it 5% instnatly good

not that much more cuz jellies spawn in caves as well and i keep getting mana/whatever/fuck jellies in my inventory

[swift wharf]

2% would make it twice less rare

[crude geode]

if you dislike item recipes so much, then sugg to remove them

[gray nebula]

no cuz it would get denied

and it would make people annoyed if they saw it in the changelogs

just imagine

"but i liked being able to craft it " "wow so now i have to go back and waste time farming" etc

but i can advocate to not further the issue

😇

a little crafting is nice but everything being graftable is grahh grahhh growlll bark bark

[errant cloud]

no yea i side w iban

that's why when someone out of here suggested indirectly to get rid of accessory recipes, i disagreed

[fossil bronze]

personally i'd rather have common drops from rare/powerful enemies than rare drops from common/weak enemies

but that would require rebalancing basically the whole game so

[errant cloud]

in an ideal world the accessories with child items that're higher drop rate would be w/o recipes

and the ones with child items that're lower would have them

but

mod evolved to be a certain way

so it go brr

[hollow shell]

@hearty warren Don't.

[hearty warren]

do

[hollow shell]

Please don't put garbage WIP suggestions in that channel please

[hearty warren]

fine

okay

i wont

[errant cloud]

.>

[errant cloud]

btw i had 10% but 5% also satisfactory;;

1/100 drop rate is garbage blame red

[hollow shell]

In fact I'm going to time you out @hearty warren. PLEASE learn some restraint and not post messages literally as fast as your fingers can move

[unique vector]

if u make rover's job any harder than it has to be im going to personally request to be repromoted just to kick ur ass

[crude geode]

just kick their ass irl instead

[unique vector]

i am a Stick i cannot do that

[errant cloud]

pixl

you're forgetting most of us are sticks

or fat

its ok

[mint egret]

a fat stick

[grim tusk]

@golden kiln Shattered Community, Draedon’s heart and Calamity

And the 2 accs you infer of Angelic Alliance and Profaned Soul artifact are developer items. And with that basis you’re essentially suggesting dev items which is a dont

[hollow shell]

Yeah we already addressed that last bit

It was a shadowspecc sugg but they changed it to just be "post scal/draedon"

Even though those summon accs exist as dev items, we kinda do still need to account for their existence balance-wise, considering those endgame items are what need to be used during the Boss Rush

[grim tusk]

The reasoning still is shadowspecs

[hollow shell]

?

They don't mention Shadowspec

[grim tusk]

They infer it

[hollow shell]

They say SCal's and Draedon's materials
which would be Ashes of Annihilation and/or Exo Prisms / Miracle Matter

[grim tusk]

Where

[hollow shell]

"made with materials from after beating these bosses"

[grim tusk]

Currently in game… two accessories… locked to summoner

[hollow shell]

Dude

The bosses
drop

materials

[grim tusk]

Ik

Rest of the reasoning is still dev items

[hollow shell]

You are being obnoxiously averse to the idea that they could even be implying the usage of Shadowspec even though they never say it

[grim tusk]

PSC and Angelic alliance are being used as their reasoning

[hollow shell]

Yes because they exist

[grim tusk]

And those are dev items

[hollow shell]

Boss Rush exists too

[grim tusk]

These exist too

[hollow shell]

Yes indeed the suggestion should acknowledge those three accessories

Granted, they are classless

[crude geode]

outside of those two typical "expert mode" (but not expert mode anymore) item drops and Community meme, there really aren't accessories post scal and draedon

[small timber]

I think currently there isnt just much need for post-scal/exo accessory?

[grim tusk]

Also yea

[small timber]

and also what will it even be, most accessory kinda reached to higher up of balanced number (15%) so above that will have to entirely rely on unique effect

[grim tusk]

And balancing with BR is…
No one wants to do it

[small timber]

the last actual accessory is like, yharim's gift

[grim tusk]

Yharim’s gift and Dragon scales

[unborn siren]

Godly soul artifact is also post Yharon

[grim tusk]

3 accs

[small timber]

and 2 of them are class specific, so general accessory only 1

[grim tusk]

Then theres these 3 and those are the last non-dev accs

S.Community is a dev item but it doesnt take shadowspecs so lol

Just like rotom pet, brimrose or bean

[small timber]

if assuming shattered community is the upper limit for an accessory (draedon's heart and calamity is probably way weaker than that), post-scal/exo accessory will have to have bonkers effect

if its intention is to not be a dev item (that is entirely unique), but rather a general, combat accessory

[grim tusk]

Draedon’s heart is a mega bonkers defensive acc
Calamity is some more dmg and the only way to get vul hex outside of aflame enchantment

[small timber]

draedon's heart is a weird case, if you beat exo first then you can only use it for scal (not sure if can tank bullethell), if do scal first then exo welll... use it for AEW?

since heart is kinda restrictive

[unborn siren]

I think Angelic alliance is a good example of a bonkers post both accessory

[grim tusk]

Draedon’s heart reduces defense dmg a fuckton

Even when not standing still

[small timber]

I mean angelic is also dev no

[unborn siren]

but Heart isn't that good, it only gives good bonuses when standing still

[grim tusk]

And when still “nanomachines son”

[grim tusk]

You underestimate it

[unborn siren]

reduced defense damage doesn't help that much against the absurd base damage of Scal's attacks

[grim tusk]

Angelic alliance is dev item

[grim tusk]

You underestimate defensive accs

[unborn siren]

ik, just using Alliance as an example of a post both

[unborn siren]

you pretty much always have the big 3 defensive ones equipped (sponge, COTBG, and Rampart)

[small timber]

if wiki is updated, isnt vul hex just a dot debuff + movement speed reduce (that late probably only used on boss)?

so no dr reduction or anything

and calamity only apply 0.4 second so basically only when you cursor on bosses

[unborn siren]

it is a 2664 dps debuff

[grim tusk]

You can swap sponge or CotbG and get heart.
You can also use other accs like Spectral veil, Evolution and Bloodflare core for defensive. Theres also darksun ring, affliction, community and Gift, good stat sticks

[grim tusk]

Doesnt Vul hex also reduce DR?

[small timber]

according to wiki no

only dot, and MS reduction (which is irrelevant for bosses that late)

for heart, is heart even better than sponge?

[drowsy plank]

it reduces DR for players

[small timber]

for being a purely defensive accessory

[drowsy plank]

and a bunch of other stuff, but not for enemies

[grim tusk]

Both have their advantages

[grim tusk]

Its only on player, F

[small timber]

I think for draedon's heart the part where damage is reduced hurt too much

[grim tusk]

Thats only when standing still

[small timber]

with a strong defensive buff like that, it is either you take 0 damage (making the accessory super inbalanced/invalidate bosses) or it is straight up unusable (don't have enough defense, stand still get destroyed)

just personally I will rather it not reduce damage but the defensive buff is also weaker, so that it is more usable other than niche/specific build

[grim tusk]

Defense dmg reduced by 50% tho

[grim tusk]

Also this doesnt happen in my experience

If you stand still too long you die

[small timber]

wait I will check how much you can absolutely stack defense against scal

[grim tusk]

But you can also be quite bulky when still

[small timber]

defense damage reduction is a weird thing, because DR give more room for error by preventing too much hp loss in the first place, defense damage reduction only works the same way if the player take too many hit in short succession

[grim tusk]

Actually does the defense dmg reduction work with bloodflare core?

[small timber]

I actually thought bloodflare core become so powerful is because of defense damage, I never properly see how it work

although it will be much faster to check the codes, since you cant disable defense damage so it is super hard to test

[grim tusk]

Bloodflare core is very strong yes

At one point before stuff’s dmg got buffed/fixed it invalidated Polter and OD

You could just heal the dmg off

Bloodflare core + heart sounds very good

Your defense is increased by 75%

You take dmg

You start moving and yet you still heal off that dmg

[small timber]

bloodflare core also nuke your defense after you get hit no, or draedon heart work on that part too

[grim tusk]

Granted you dont get adrenaline with this (just use occult skull crown to make it easier to get lol) but who cares

[grim tusk]

Your defense gets boosted by 75%, then you lose 50% of that, then you start to move while you heal off

[small timber]

also (for scal testing with heart), rampart, aegis, affliction, sponge, cobg, tracer, heart; is there anything more fitting than cobg and affliction?

for pure defense build (with some dr)

[grim tusk]

We should move to #calamity-mod-talk

[small timber]

ok

[grim tusk]

#calamity-mod-talk was fine

We were flooding chat here

Thats why asked us to move

[unique vector]

@steep shuttle malice bosses dont drop anything unique anymore

so if ur suggestion includes reverting them back, we will never do that

and that also falls under suggesting content reversal soooo

[steep shuttle]

thats not what im saying

im saying have them drop all of a bosses loot 100% of the time

no unique items

[unique vector]

OH

sorry im tired

[steep shuttle]

its good

[keen zealot]

that's actually pretty nice

just make it drop all of anything it can, I like that

[stable musk]

i want last sugg

but

that's a ❗

[hot zephyr]

couldn't you just save a bag, swap to malice and open it for every drop

[unique vector]

yes

this is the exact problem defiled had

[hot zephyr]

it seems kinda

counter-intuitive to the changes that were made to defiled and arma, before those were removed

[small timber]

I mean if the player bother with something like that then nothing is really stopping them from installing cheat sheet

the intention is still to (at least in some sense), reward malice by making grinding bosses at least not as essential (especially considering the bosses are way harder), though I do think the suggestion need slightly stronger reasoning

[ruby plover]

i dont know if this is the perfect strategy, but maybe there can be a seperate type of treasure bag that malice bosses drop

and that treasure bag is the one that drops all the loot

[cobalt pewter]

make the items drop directly from the boss 🚎

[hot zephyr]

full circle

[cobalt pewter]

so true!

(inherently flawed)

(malice is better off not existing)

[hot zephyr]

it's fin

[golden tulip]

malice is finnish ??

[cobalt heath]

malice is finnish???

PERKELE

[keen zealot]

this

[small timber]

what if malice just drop an additional material that allow you to create any 1 drop from the boss?

[keen zealot]

that's too little a reward for what malice puts most people through

[eternal escarp]

and its also cringe

whats the point of a drop if its once agian from a material

[small timber]

@wheat ocean the purpose of the starter bag is, as stated, just to allow you to start as a specific class, it does not necessarily is meant to be extremely viable

otherwise mages will have started with a diamond staff instead of an amethyst staff

[wheat ocean]

all the other weapons in the bag work fine as starter weapons

its just the squirrel squire staff i feel has this issue

[small timber]

you are meant to use the starter weapon to get onto the next weapon, not necessarily to use it for extended period of time

[inner anvil]

Squirrel is pretty based right now.

[small timber]

I think squirrel squire staff is more of the fact that summoner is balanced for 2 minion slot at the start as otherwise summoner will immediately double in power after wulfrum, so the problem is more with summoner not having access to 2nd minion slot sooner than squirrel squire staff itself

[inner anvil]

Plus I would hate everyone if it was replaced with Slime Staff, that thing is broken, as in it doesn't work properly.

[small timber]

tbh I will really hope the starter bag just give an item where "if you have only 1 minion slot, this accessory grant the 2nd minion slot" in the starter bag, just so summoner is playable before wulfrum armor

not like it would make multiclass broken at starter level, it is still 1 accessory slot + summoner nerf

and this #suggestions-voting message doesnt have any answer yet, which is a shame

[fossil finch]

Just don't have a dash acc equipped

[small timber]

#suggestions-voting message
#suggestions-voting message
existed 2 times but ya not sure if this count as a repost, since those have no chances to get into dev

[small timber]

also this do not work, as long as you have solar armor you can only have solar dash that get disabled when you dont have shield (no matter if have dash accessory or not), only way is to use beetle and equip a dash accessory

the problem is less with the fact that solar dash sucks compare to other dash accessory, it is more with the fact that solar dash can be disabled

[fossil finch]

This does work????
You just go a period dashless

[small timber]

@hollow shell also #suggestions-posting message is probably not a valid suggestion, at least I will assume

[fossil finch]

just go along with it and replace your dash acc with something else

[small timber]

it is the fact that you go dashless, and said dashless cannot be avoided even if you equip a dash accessory

[fossil finch]

Charges don't even consume if you don't hit an enemy if i remember correctly

[small timber]

as long as you use solar armor

because if you get hit 3 times the shield (therefore) dash is disabled, and can't really just tell people "just dont get hit"

[cobalt pewter]

are the screenshots necessary?

I don't feel like it really helps the sugg aside from the fact that it's commonly pointed out

even then that's literally the point of voting the sugg

[digital saddle]

Squirrel squire staff should ignore defense

Or something

[keen zealot]

that reminds me, y'all should get local immunity on all of your piercing attacks

or rather, everything except stuff like stardust dragon which makes sense in being static, as it is in 1.4

for those that don't know, terraria's immunity frame system is a mess

ignoring the player's own damage immunity, which functions almost completely differently, there are three kinds of immunity frames:

actually before I list em off should probably mention

[fossil finch]

Pretty sure calamity already does that for the major part!

time to pull out the dev ping

[keen zealot]

wait really?

I mean if slime staff is broken, you can't have fixed everything, right?

anyways

[keen zealot]

non-piercing attacks do not apply immunity frames, this is why you can hit however fast you want with weapons like the halibut cannon so long as you have non-piercing ammo

[fossil finch]

with their weapons*

[keen zealot]

ahhh

[fossil finch]

lo

[keen zealot]

I have not tested with meteor shot in years so I will decline to make a statement on how well they perform together

the three types of immunity frames, which apply only to piercing weapons:

global immunity is per-player, and affects all other piercing projectiles. both you and your friend can use slime staff on the same target, but having two slimes on yourself is not nearly as helpful

static immunity is per-projectile: only one stardust dragon on your server can hit a target at a time, no matter how hard you try, however, any other projectile will hit no problem

local immunity is per-projectile instance: this is very rare in 1.3, so I will resort to my 1.4 explanation of meteor shot minishark actually working now. before it was global, so it would not work.

in true terraria fashion there's probably some extra jank hidden in there that not I nor anyone else I've met knows

[sudden monolith]

The squirrel staff sprite is well-done but doesn't fit with calamity art-style as well; squirrel staff is goofy while calamity is more like heavy metal

[short walrus]

calamity style

(it doesnt exist)

[sudden monolith]

lol. I guess vanilla does have the advantage of having producers who oversee art direction and style

[cobalt pewter]

????

[[tgc:Bloody Machete]]

[red storm]

https://terraria.wiki.gg/wiki/Bloody_Machete

[cobalt pewter]

this goddamned bastard

[short walrus]

vanilla is like

[fossil bronze]

1.2 sprite

[short walrus]

all over the place

[fossil bronze]

ok but like all of the 1.3/1.4 sprites are way better

but anything before that is almost always ass

[short walrus]

1.4 especially

[fossil bronze]

they really should've resprited everything from before 1.3, with a few exceptions

[cobalt pewter]

1.4 definitely sees an improvement in consistency

[short walrus]

the point is that vanilla is almost as varied in sprite style as calamity, if not more

[cobalt pewter]

hopefully 1.4.4 addresses some older content

(no one remembers frost legion)

[short walrus]

doubt

[west jackal]

yeah make frost legion drop ice along with snow

[small timber]

@digital saddle I highly doubt it will get changed, charging is literally the entire gimmick of the weapon, no matter if it actually matter or not

they denied a suggestion that is just "make draedon logs decryption faster", and since draedon arsenal entire gimmick is charging rather than just artificial waiting time of decryption I can only imagine the chances of it getting passed is even smaller

[west jackal]

I think charging is a cool mechanic but it just kinda

Doesn’t do anything rn

[digital saddle]

its a minor inconvenience

thats literally all it adds to the game

[west jackal]

Also @dusty path I’m pretty sure the solar dash is a bug

[small timber]

^ if they are denying even smaller of an inconvenience I doubt they will change the gimmick that make draedon arsenal different from normal weapon

I also agree charging does nothing, just I dont think they will change it

[keen zealot]

they were definitely trying

[gray nebula]

it was denied because the long decryption time was intended as an incentive for players to unlock stuff throughout the game

instead of decrypting it all at once after yharon

[keen zealot]

long waits are still long waits no matter when you do them

and if you're really the type to ignore it until after yharon, you won't notice the wait until after yharon

[eternal escarp]

but if you do it in the end its dead time that stockpiles

if you do it through the game you can use the time for other things so it doesnt really matter

[small timber]

I mean this can also apply to new player who are not aware of codebreaker until yharon where they don't know how to fight exo mechs and search it, tbh I don't think the wait time is even that bad, just ya, I don't really feel it really incentivize decryption throughout progression rather than all at once

since the main incentive is unlock draedon arsenal weapons (which some are very powerful on tier), that I don't think the wait time actually do much

[eternal escarp]

they are expected to know about DS via some sources and therefore explore the sunken sea
and even then theres the other 4 labs + the seeking mechanisms

[small timber]

although since a devs do confirm on the actual reason that suggestion is get denied, I guess there is a slight chance charge get remove?

[eternal escarp]

and the many scattered labs that provide the items for the seeking mechanisms

[small timber]

since my original assumption is just the wait time is intentional to create tention

[gray nebula]

new player moment

hate tehse guys not my problem if theyre clueless

[west jackal]

I mean, there’s almost nothing telling them what to do

[gray nebula]

exactly

[west jackal]

There’s a couple things

[muted vale]

As long as they fight DS

[west jackal]

Like the sunken sea lab schem

[muted vale]

they will probably find the sunken sea

And the schematics say where to find the next one

[gray nebula]

i mean in the end terraria is a lot of a wiki game

achievement suggs in 1.4 could help i guess

[eternal escarp]

massively in my eyes tbh

[fossil bronze]

i wonder how much it would help new players to just
tell them to use the wiki with a message in-game

[quiet kernel]

a lot

[eternal escarp]

alot in a horrid way

[quiet kernel]

in unspeakable amounts

if the amount would be a god, even DoG couldnt eat it

[keen zealot]

not unreasonable to expect them to have internet access, they would need to have installed at least three separate things from online to get to the point where they need a website

[gray nebula]

thatd really suck lmfao

new players already know to use the wiki bro

😭

don't break the 4th wall for that rofl

[fossil bronze]

ok

[fossil finch]

If youre gonna tell them anything in game just tell them the info

Lole

[unique vector]

troll

[fossil bronze]

what the fuck

[ashen warren]

Average zoologist simp

[short walrus]

@marble hazel

[inland saddle]

Bro what the fuck man

[sleek turret]

Jesus christ

[eternal escarp]

oh god

[sleek turret]

This is the worst I've seen

[eternal escarp]

yeah there might just be some "trollers" in the server that came in at once

[pulsar marlin]

whistles
RAPE!!

[inland saddle]

Tiki is on dnd

@worthy lintel

Oh

Fuck

Gone

Oops

[pulsar marlin]

No seriously, who ever thought about this suggestion should be punished

[inland saddle]

Teehee sorry spider

[worthy lintel]

teehee

[zenith hazel]

you can handle that

[worthy lintel]

the comedian is gone

moving on

1984

[golden tulip]

did i miss a funny

[worthy lintel]

funny between thousands of quotation marks

[golden tulip]

[cobalt pewter]

least horny Terraria player

[west jackal]

From the context here it was either someone being horny for zoologist or porn

[warped tide]

That, and it balences some of them out a bit

like the Pulse Pistol not using Mana

its really good as backup for a while while your mana is recharging if your going with absurd mana regen

[sleek wadi]

I don't think charge impacts balance at all, its not like they are so power hungry they run out of charge mid boss. Its cool flavor but not much more

[eternal escarp]

@warm dagger first of all, your suggestion isnt formated properly
second of all, why?

"itd be cool" isnt exactly a great reason

itd make sense is also, not a good reason
@kindred creek

[kindred creek]

i mean it is

[eternal escarp]

youd need to expand on your reasoning

its not a good reason on its own

[fossil bronze]

i don't really get how it'd make sense

[sleek wadi]

"Its makes sense" is the result of good reasoning, not reasoning on its own

[fossil bronze]

space has nothing to do with evil or the hallow

[sleek wadi]

Convince us that it makes sense

[eternal escarp]

the don'ts exist for a reason

and to the new reason i say:

whats the point of having them both in the same place

defeats the whole point of two souls

[fossil bronze]

there's another issue as well

harpies are pre-hm enemies

whereas underground hallow/evil has mostly hardmode enemies

[eternal escarp]

well it doesnt matter the enemy its the state of the game

[fossil bronze]

which makes it much easier in general

[muted vale]

plus you'd still have to wait

moving from two biomes on a minecart is faster than waiting for nighttime

and it's not really in theme

light means hallow, not literal sunlight

[sleek wadi]

I can sorta see the theme in it but the souls are tied moreso to the thematics of the spread biomes than time

[muted vale]

that's why we have essence of sunlight

and souls of flight

most soul-themed items are related to evil/hallow anyway

[eternal escarp]

the whole suggestion is the embodiment of rover's quote above

[muted vale]

yes

[cobalt heath]

my god we need it pinned so bad

[golden kiln]

Like if you want fast souls just summon king slime it's that simple

[fossil bronze]

i thought that got disabled?

or was it biome keys or something

[hard bronze]

What if the dev do something involving the AEW dropping the terminus key considering its the guardian of the terminus

Or they could powerlock it so like it can give a warning in the description or something that you can not take the terminus out of the chest until you've faced the guardian of the abyss or something idk and once ur ready to face the AEW then u summon it either by rod of discord or terminus

[cobalt heath]

no

aew is an optional superboss

locking the main post game thing is bad game design

[hard bronze]

True

That is very true

Ok then nvm thats a bad sugg

[hybrid steeple]

its
not?
it's the guardian of the abyss itself

[hard bronze]

Oh my b then

Or what if u could hear faint adult eidolon wyrm echos throughout the abyss then and make the aew's roar a little different than the juvenile

and make it more phantom-like

[cobalt heath]

aka make it more like a ghost leviathan?

i like the roar idea

[hard bronze]

Yeah

Yay thank u

[cobalt heath]

aew is based on that

abyss is supposed to be scary

thus i support it

[hard bronze]

Like once u reach the 2nd level u can sort of hear it

[cobalt heath]

just make it into a sugg w reasons and correct format

[hard bronze]

like faint roars

ye

I just wanna refine it before i post it in posting

[cobalt heath]

ye come here before you post it

us veterans will help

is gud

[hard bronze]

Thank u bro 👍

[crude geode]

this seems like something for a QoL mod to do on it's own?

[gray nebula]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/759234723322134568/942135277621739550/ezgif.com-gif-maker_35.gif

least extremely nitpicky calamity mod suggestion

the hud barely hides anything

how the hell do the half transparent mana stars hinder your view like come on

[river glen]

ive had some of my friends complain about it.... thought it would be worth a shot but i guess notworth it

[gray nebula]

kill your friends

[cobalt pewter]

it's not exactly blocking anything major, but I find it jarring that a resource that's used for a single class (one and a half, if you're that reaching) always appear on the screen all the god damned time

[fossil finch]

you ignore the fact you start with one star that blocks literally nothing

and you can freely choose to not get more mana

[river glen]

hmmmm

with what

[cobalt pewter]

I didn't ignore that, as mentioned on the first sentence

[fossil finch]

(You did no

[cobalt pewter]

it never had and will never block anything major in its current state, but its constant visibility bugged me

[fossil finch]

you just said it didn't block anything major which is true even if upgraded to max

[cobalt pewter]

even only 1 star

[fossil finch]

the reason of permanent mana presence is because magic mirror and star fury used mana probably, y'know, before classes random items would use mana

then red added classes and removed those things

[cobalt pewter]

that is probably fair, relic of ancient times

[tardy geyser]

#suggestions-voting message arkhalis will be a dev item in 1.4 anyway, terragrim is the item you want to give a recipe

[ruby plover]

doesn't matter literally just had a name and sprite change

[hard bronze]

angler voodoo doll

[turbid zinc]

as wack as a suggestion as it would be i would LOVE to have the AEW pet also be effected by configs>true size instead of this primarily being for a dog pet

having a full sized aew pet would be tremendously cool as is the full sized dog pet

[fathom junco]

Senator Armstrong Pet

[turbid zinc]

calamity vanities^

[fathom junco]

Oh yeah that exists

[fossil finch]

This isn't the place for that

[fathom junco]

;p

[fossil finch]

Bosses are immune to debuffs because it doesn't make any sense for certain things to be poisoned or lit up on fire

You say it doesn't fit a system that came later which could also be easily adjusted or just ignore it
Also things taking less damage to on fire is literally the same thing as things being immune to on fire because on fire barely deals damage

[small timber]

providence getting inflicted with holy fire, brimstone by brimstone flame, cryogen by frozen... etc just do not make sense

and it will have like 0 effect anyway

[fossil finch]

no

[crude geode]

please no more mgrr references

@hollow shell epic reference pet

[hollow shell]

@fathom junco 👎

No joke suggestions please

[fathom junco]

ok ok

ill delete it

[turbid zinc]

What about eidolon furniture, eidolon stuff is very visually pleasing with its color scheme and concepts while there are eidolon building blocks (sold from jelly prestress) and eidolon walls (made from said blocks) , there is no actual themed eidolon furniture or lighting which i think would be a good edition for the building aide of the community, i tried making an eidolon themed build however due to the lack of furniture everything except walls and blocks were made using stratus furniture

[ruby plover]

there are already 2 abyss furniture sets, and also the eidolic slab block is a calamity's vanities thing

[turbid zinc]

oh really I thought it was just a calamity thing

[ruby plover]

jelly priestess is a calamity's vanities npc lol

[turbid zinc]

is there a separate server for calam vanities suggestions or is that its own separate individual thing

[ruby plover]

calval have their own server, ye

[stable musk]

skill issue

[steel minnow]

Can we have "Planetoids" theme in game?, that shit sounds beautiful, lol

[short walrus]

something about it being a hassle to add a new music layer or something

[grave zinc]

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[Have the Goblin Army, Pirate Invasion and Martian Madness be unable to occur naturally after they've been completed once.]

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[Rename Rogue's "Stealth" system.]

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[make supreme calamitas teleport back into the arena if she is outside the arena once she is at 1% health]

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[Make the Indicator for Increased Boss Defense/DR and Enrage More Obvious]

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[Give worms reactive DR at the start of the fight instead of just cranking their DR to a ridiculous amount]

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[keen zealot]

there's already a mod that does this

I think it's "Calamity's Lost Themes", could be something else though (I have four music mods with "Calamity" in the name right now and it would be a hassle to see which one does it)

[keen zealot]

also just found out that Trinity's main swing blocks its own projectiles from hitting reliably

I would imagine a lot of "classic shortsword/broadsword" style weapons have similar problems with immunity

[keen zealot]

inferna cutter's sparks also prevent it from being remotely usable as a weapon

probably for the best since it seems to do absurd amounts of dps once you start missing the sparks

but if you hit the sparks it is unusably bad thanks to their low damage and the permanent immunity clash

[austere cargo]

so do suggestions that don't get enough stars to be submitted to the devs just get ignored?

[short walrus]

Yeah

[ruby plover]

there is always a chance that a dev could see it and like the idea ig? but it's safe to assume that yeah, it'll be ignored

[austere cargo]

and what determines which suggestions get submitted?

[short walrus]

Top 20% get submitted

[unique vector]

reaad the pins here

tl;dr it has to have 20% more stars than the average star count of the suggestion pool its in

which is from two weeks ago

[austere cargo]

hmm, that's different from top 20%

[inland saddle]

It’s the top 20%

Not 20% more stars than the average

It pools all the suggestions from a given week (read pins to see how the grouping works) into one group and then sorts them based on their star counts

Then takes the top 20%, rounded up

[unique vector]

oh sorry

this is why im failing stats

[burnt beacon]

perhaps it'd be better if draedon weapons had to be charged just the once so that the cool charger ui doesnt go to waste, but the annoyance of needing to do it every few boss attempts is gone

[supple plover]

How do you make the writing bold

For suggestions

[burnt beacon]

2 asterisks around the text

[supple plover]

like this

[hybrid steeple]

(that would make the ui go to waste anyways)

[burnt beacon]

only partially

[supple plover]

Nope

[burnt beacon]

twice the asterisks

2 each side

[supple plover]

hi

Thanks

[inland saddle]

You do a line break by pressing shift+enter on PC

Or on mobile pressing return

If you’re on iOS you need to press the 123 to see it

[acoustic mortar]

Ban the kid who said to change elementals

[digital saddle]

Earth elemental

[cerulean trench]

earth elemental is the coolest elemental

[acoustic mortar]

The Thicc ones

[unique vector]

least horny calamity user

i will personally make all of the elementals Buff Men

[acoustic mortar]

😭

That’s the whole point tho they Thicc as fuck

[swift wharf]

that changes nothing

yeah

[unique vector]

no more horny for women

problem solved in my books

😎

[swift wharf]

make them ugly

[small timber]

petition to make every elementals 1.4 stardust guardian style

[hollow idol]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/731401484125732915/855672889567084565/DrFuqcoqbang.png

[unique vector]

LETSFUCKING GOOO

wtf why is junko there

[hollow idol]

shh

[swift wharf]

now they're even hotter

[hard bronze]

Bro they hotter than the current elementals

[warped tide]

I hate this

this mf Asgore

and FEMBOYFEMBOYFEMB-

[fleet igloo]

Signus is an elemental confirmed

[warped tide]

the cringe elemental

[obsidian cairn]

male rare sand elemental be lookin like palossand from pokemon

[cerulean trench]

HELL YEAH

[cerulean trench]

https://tenor.com/view/roaches-funne-games-megamind-meme-ironic-gif-24191984

[warped tide]

oh lord

[gray nebula]

inb4 ppl whine about a config suggestion when yes in fact it messes with other mods

[unique vector]

i HATE configs

[warped tide]

gonna be honest
a config to swap the elemental’s presented sex would be cool i guess

[unique vector]

grgrrrrrrgrrrrrrrrr

[warped tide]

suffer

[gray nebula]

shovel knight

[supple plover]

How do you create lines

Like you have to fkr suggestiona

[grim tusk]

Text (shift+enter)
More text

[supple plover]

Thank you

[muted vale]

solved

its perfect

[fossil finch]

just go up or down wh

this alone doesn't make the projectiles undodgeable you're gonna have to reason that better

[supple plover]

This should happen when you drink a gender change potion with heart of the elements equipped

[stable musk]

Hell blast sugg is more skill issue rather than real suggestion

But when transitioning from bullet hells it's ok to get hit

because they just snipe you from 387338m away

[grim tusk]

I agree

[grim tusk]

This is why you start moving right when a bh is about to end

[last lintel]

hm yes very long suggestion for the mod over something that really just mildly annoys me at most

It'd be nice to see but I'm not gonna hold my breath over it

Re: An Alternative to the Heart of the Elements

Honestly I think it's a neat concept! I can see this working decently well as a pre-hardmode option (after some tweaking) before you can assemble the full heart and then combining the two somewhere near the end with powered-up versions of these.

[warped tide]

#suggestions-posting message

jesus fuck i was half joking

[cobalt heath]

i see no point

like does the guy want a male waifu squad that bad

[warped tide]

I mean a HoE like item that summons the sentinels of the devourer is

a funny idea

[sand ermine]

men exist

[warped tide]

MEN

[sand ermine]

it doesnt mean they should be an accessory though

[warped tide]

yeah

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