suggestions-discussion

[small timber]

maybe, in that case I will just make it separate suggestion

[hollow shell]

All your movement complaints are generally centered around DoG moving in an incredibly quick and unpredictable manner

[small timber]

ya I think in that case I will cut the suggestion down to only movement

[hollow shell]

Yeah

Your video is a pretty good demonstration of that.. core idea

It is very telling

Oh right, what difficulty is this?

[small timber]

it is death, but when I tested it on Rev it is mostly the same

[hollow shell]

Alright

[small timber]

since most of his AIs function the same (he still speed up absurdly during blue)

[hollow shell]

Could include that in the sugg just so people know

[small timber]

I will just reassure it if it also apply for rev

since I think it should completely apply for rev too

[hollow shell]

And don't have the ambiguity open for it being a Malice thing or w/e

Yeah

[small timber]

ok I think it is actually death/malice specific, not because he don't do it, but because he is not fast enough to get way too far away from the player on his own

since at death/malice he is at max speed from the getgo, while rev he have to be very low hp to be at the same speed (therefore the same problem), but since he is at low hp it become just "this is a final phase thing"

[cobalt heath]

I Hope this guy gets to test calamity

[supple plover]

I think upbraphile armour should be buffed

It doesn’t feel like a very good armour

So having it buffer to about the same level as spectre would be good

[small timber]

ok deathmode phase 1 is straight up harder than rev mode phase 2 10% hp

[small timber]

try to list stat and compare with other armor

other armor of around the same tier

it will make you more convincing

[supple plover]

I’m probably just bad at the game

[small timber]

no don't worry about it, armor is just stat stick, so you only have to list out their stat and compare

you don't have to like fight a boss with it or something

(preferably armor of the same class, since different class is balanced differently)

I just look at it, it probably should not be that bad?

since your other options is just ore armor, daedalus armor and chlorophyte armor

spectre armor is not that good tbh, especially that calamity nerfed it

[supple plover]

Oh

I was looking at vanilla spectre

Spectre is like the only option for moonlord in vanilla

And has similar stats to hydrothermic

But umbraphile has a worse set bonus IMO, less defence, a chance not to consume rouge weapons

[small timber]

hydrothermic can look abit weak but its set bonus is pretty strong

generally comparing armor between different classes can be very misleading, since in umbraphile's case it gives a lot of stealth benefits compare to other armors

hydrothermic case is mostly that it has high defense and most of its strong point is on its set bonus, which is not reflected in stats

[supple plover]

I already struggled against ML with hydrothermic so umbraphile would be even harder

[small timber]

against ML accessory choice is a lot more important than armor tbh

[supple plover]

Whereas when I did my vanilla playthrough with mage/ summoner I didn’t have much of a problem

[small timber]

most armor will not be extremely helpful (except just defense or damage), most set bonus dont hit

[supple plover]

Imagine reforging accessories lol

[small timber]

you should try Calamity ML with mage/summoner tbh

before making the comparison, it will be more accurate, Calamity Moon Lord (you fought with umbraphile/hydrothermic) is significantly harder than vanilla ML

[icy plover]

if you wanna tear through moonlord weapon choice matters a lot more in my experience

shard of antumbra is several times stronger than every other option at its tier and it’s not even close

the prismalline upgrade is also viable if you wanna focus on dodging more but takes more time

[icy plover]

I actually think calamity ml is significantly easier than vanilla at least on rev+ because they removed all the cheap bullshit like eye synchronization and the eye mini lasers

the fight is the same except the beam is faster and happens in every phase

that’s about it tho

[small timber]

I think death is way harder but rev ya maybe

death is buffed considerably with all the predictive bullshit

[icy plover]

I did it on death

it just takes longer

but that aside it’s the same strat as vanilla without having to worry about the uneven eye beams at all

[small timber]

because vanilla ML you have soaring insignia now so it is kinda a joke

[icy plover]

it does tp more often but

that isn a big deal

but yeah shard of antumbra absolutely demolishes him

100% recommended

[small timber]

infinite flight + making every vanilla wing a drew's wing is a big deal, but ya if you can offscreen him death ML is not really a threat

[icy plover]

and if you have a skybridge aiming it during phase 2 is as easy as shooting stright to the side

[small timber]

I think I mixed it with malice ML or something maybe, or my melee playthrough throw me off

[icy plover]

I like how rev+ removes a lot of the dumb cheap hits from vanilla

like plantera not having hook tentacles

just wish it was the same for expert lol

those changes, as well as EoC not spazzing out randomly under 20% hp, make rev+ significantly more fun than expert

(except golem and lunatic cultist)

(those got worse somehow)

[small timber]

golem and lc is not too unfair, just have to get used to it

[icy plover]

golem just feels like a step backwards with the random bounces and fireball placings

making things needlessly hard

it didnt take me as many tries as other bosses but it wasnt an enjoyable time

[small timber]

golem I think is arguable, lc I don't think is unfair at all (except the shadow ball is not really well telegraphed)

[icy plover]

I think my gripe with lc was mostly how tanky it is

for some reason it felt like it took no damage even with the best on tier weapons and stealth strikes

the attacks arent exactly unfair but not really fun either imho

better than ravager at least

[small timber]

@swift sinew if you get the permission from the owner (you already do) I think it get passed for being specific I guess?

since the owner basically have the call on the vanity side of things (balance excluded)

[swift sinew]

Well I did get permission, so does that mean I still have to suggest a more vague idea, because that makes no sense as they only gave me permission for this specific vanity suggestion

[small timber]

I think you can be more specific, but probably best ask Rover

[swift sinew]

Rover?

[small timber]

what I mean by "get passed for being specific" is referring to the fact that you probably is allowed to be specific

@hollow shell is the profaned soul crystal suggestion allowed to be specific? since he did get permission from the owner

[swift sinew]

Although, what do you think about the suggestions I said, too extravagant?

[small timber]

not sure, since the owner basically get to decide on that so I have no comment

(also not exactly sure how owner works, like if they get to decide the vanity/visual aspect after the item is done or not)

[hollow shell]

This actually isn't that specific. It could be improved but it ain't terrible

[swift sinew]

Ayyy, how could it be improved? I am definitely willing to hear

[hollow shell]

What I will say is that you do not at all need to include that whole explanation on what PSC is and how to obtain it, @swift sinew

The entire top half of your reasoning can be cut down to one or two sentences

(ah sorry for ping)

[swift sinew]

Don’t apologise it’s 100% fine

[hollow shell]

Also, the title line of your suggestion needs to be the very first line of your sugg
(cuz that's how the bot processes it)
So take out that "terraria calamity suggestion" line

[swift sinew]

Okay thank you I will make the changes, but how about the vanity features are they doable? Coding wise

[swift sinew]

Yeah that’s because it was a title in notes I will make the changes now

[hollow shell]

Those vanity changes all sound doable, yes

[swift sinew]

Okay I am going to edit it now,

Is my edited version fixed?

[swift sinew]

Great, although, do you think they are fair? Like would you like to see these changes?

[hollow shell]

It seems like an alright idea yeah, the ability to show off the completion of a challenge

And yeah the sugg is better, thank you for adding the line spaces

[swift sinew]

Yeah, more or less it was too long so I remove the spaces, not the best idea 😂

[small timber]

@swift sinew I think you can delete this line "I propose two changes, both vanity wise; although some may see this as a specific item suggestion, I have no idea how to make it not. " since you got confirmation that you can do it

the bolded line is kinda redundant

[grim tusk]

#suggestions-posting message
This is just not being used to the boss. DoG aint a pushover like he used to be

Also you should likely run more defensive accessories if you’re losing 80% of hp on Rev with a single chomp

[warped tide]

Unless he has the nohit thing enabled

which would make sense considering the World Wide Arena

[swift sinew]

Okay cool

[swift sinew]

So get rid or not?

[small timber]

(I mean I was nohitting), but I think you should refer to the video for more accurate of what the suggestion is referring to

although I do think on a not extremely defensive (like balanced build), dog actually deal 80% in 1 charge, because of god slayer inferno

since it still hurt a lot on a completely defensive full warding build

[small timber]

(I keep turning off to ping) ya I think get rid of it, it is not really necessarily to be put in the suggestion (since now you are certain what to do)
at least the bolded text is not needed

[swift sinew]

So just say the two suggestions instead of saying here are the two suggestions, isn’t this just a little Pedantic?

[small timber]

I don't think so? since you do get permission from the owner

if you feel bad about it you can just slightly change the wording

like "therefore I will suggest two vanity changes to differentiate acquiring the accessory through the challenge"

(your english is better than me so you can find better wording)

[grim tusk]

Train worm moment

although I think worms do the train more often in nohit arenas

on regular arenas they do not as much

[small timber]

not necessarily, it is almost death/malice dog specific, and I think I have a pretty good idea how it happen, because dog has a new "turn and chase AI" which makes him turn faster, if he just don't disable it in time/combine with the 200/350+ blocks speed up he just turn and charge at the player before able to turn it off

the alternative is that if you fly during blue phase he can just wander off too far (get too far away from the player), and during the 350+ blocks speed up he just continue speed up despite nearing the player

[grim tusk]

i literally beta tested all DoG modes when making sure he was not bugged

although idk how tf SW ended up being bugged in public despite being perfectly fine in test build

[small timber]

then I don't know how to explain it other than like 20-30% of my attempts he will do that, he only stop doing that after I manipulated his AI so he never get too far away from me during blue phase

I think beta build and live build for some reason is slightly different, otherwise some big bug can't really be explained

[grim tusk]

that AI already existed but had an issue where it increased speed and took a very long time to turn around, which now he doesnt

but now it is fine

[grim tusk]

actually I think they might be nohit arena issue

[small timber]

because my arena is not exactly no hit arena, it is just long platform with candles tbh

since I used my own world

[grim tusk]

maybe he just increases and increases speed in the air due to no friction with blocks

[small timber]

(unless the wall counts)

[grim tusk]

also that arena in that vid is 100% nohit arena

[small timber]

I mean I build a similar arena in most of my playthrough for dog, besides maybe 1/2 less platform due to candle cost (and lazy to farm)

since my first playthrough fight on dog is a 2k block wide just platform I always kept that habit

the video didnt show it very clearly but my platform end if I move like 300 more blocks to the right (as in it is not a global platform arena)

[west jackal]

why is that video of dog you posted so fucking funny to me

[small timber]

have you ever been punched by a fist moving at the speed of light

[cobalt heath]

didnt journeys end make it so that gb larva needs to be hit w a tool to break

cause if it did my sug would be irrelevant

[fossil finch]

My favorite part of this sugg is that cinder would apply the worse debuff because terraria

[untold pagoda]

the worse debuff

huh

[west jackal]

When the sugg includes that debuffs make a difference now

Doesn’t frost blossom do less damage

Yeah

Cinder would be better regardless of the debuff

[unborn siren]

Cinder inflicting on fire is probably fine

but frost inflicting frostburn seems a bit op

[west jackal]

It wouldn’t be op if a damage nerf came with it

But it already does only 10

[unborn siren]

it would be effectively around +24 dps against DS

(3 segments hit per explosion x 8 dps debuff)

[eternal escarp]

it could very well be a short debuff time, slowed down fire rate and or damage to account for it if the sugg is passed and seen needed

[unborn siren]

or only the main projectile could inflict it

but not the explosion

[soft quest]

what are your guy's opinions on malice twins?

i think they are waaaaaay to fast

yesterday i tried testing a build for them, and i kid you not i had to put on 6 movement accessories and they still were having no problem catching up

they move above 100mph, and the base calamity running speed is 27

and no i dont think its a skill issue, i put down the difficulty to death mode and did it first try, but i died 27 times (in one fight with instant respawn) with malice

idk maybe im missing something

[soft quest]

i mean i am limiting myself with potions (a limit to 7) because thats how much i realistically would have in a run (so im not doing luiafk potion stacking 🤢 )

[golden tulip]

i stopped caring for malice when basically all devs decided to call it shit one day

[grim tusk]

#suggestions-posting message my opinion:
Frost blossom no
Cinder blossom yes

[eternal escarp]

frost blossom.could inflict chilled tbf for normal rnemy usage

you could broaden the debuff up so theres more options

[grim tusk]

That would make it even more stupid

Lol

[eternal escarp]

people dont care about enemies these days so

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[west jackal]

I stopped caring since it was released 😎😎

[hard bronze]

What if you could fight a post ml enemy thats sort of like zombies and stuff and it would be like the tyrants troops or something trying to find u after killing yharon

like they would be the equivalence of a zombie in pre hm

but with post ml gear

As in like the difficulty of killing that zombie

[keen zealot]

we could take advantage of the Hellfire debuff once we move to 1.4

[unique vector]

mid sugg

why not make them actual interesting enemies instead of just

boring copy paste zombie AI

[gaunt quest]

yah

making boring copy pastes of enemies is oof

[fossil finch]

Mid sugg? You're giving them too much credit

[fossil bronze]

post-ml needs more enemies, but retextured vanilla enemies are not the way to go imo

[west jackal]

Make a sniper enemy that one shots you from off screen

[fossil finch]

True

[sudden monolith]

Worst suggestion possible: wave pounder stealth strike destroys tiles

'time to make an arena'
one attack later
done!

[keen zealot]

!wiki wave pounder

[red storm]

https://calamitymod.wiki.gg/wiki/Wave_Pounder

[keen zealot]

a bit too late to save me time on plantera

[sudden monolith]

It's fun to take it to the dungeon and see the radar go from 23 enemies to 0 in one hit

[keen zealot]

I'd imagine

that looks way better than the wave pounder I hated

[unborn siren]

random enemy ideas I have:

• Holy variants of the Profaned enemies that spawn after Provi, are stronger, and spawn less often, but drop divine geodes
• more pumpkin moon, frost moon, and solar eclipse enemies/minibosses that spawn post DoG and drop more of the energies
• Astral infection variants of Wulfrum enemies
• Sulph sea jellyfish

[fossil bronze]

small suggestion idea
make cosmic plushie and fox drive drop directly from the boss when killed instead of from the treasure bag, like levi & gael's greatsword

so that you can't "cheat" and beat the boss without rev/death/hardcore enabled, turn them on/make a new character, and open the bag

[keen zealot]

it's vanity

I don't really think it needs anticheat

[fossil bronze]

i guess

scal's levi already does it though

[fossil finch]

Wave Pounder is comically op

[crude geode]

ig this is probably fine for a sugg, would prolly need permission but that's typical

[hollow shell]

Fuck, I guess I didn't exclamate that one?

🤔 🤔 🤔 🤔 🤔 🤔 🤔

Dunno if I should delete or not

[balmy pike]

Hi, this is the first time I speak in this channel, and I really want to give a suggestion about Crystyl Crusher. I'm pretty sure it's been suggested before as I searched, but I don't know what the outcome is. That I wonder whether it's acceptable to switch the left/right click of Crystyl Crusher, because at least for myself, I use the normal swing function for most of the time, but it's kinda annoying when you are trying to dig the gravestones or chests as it always shows the gravestone messages and opens the chests when you click on them, unless clicked on an empty space and then move the cursor to those items you wanna dig. Plus sometimes it's possible to mistakenly use the left click function and cause some unwanted results. I'm not sure if you folks feel the same. I hope this is reasonable for a suggestion discussion 😁

[safe oasis]

Terraria's right-click functionalities are poorly programmed. The laser beam function cannot be on right-click, because all "channeled" functionalities (that is, continuous effect on click-and-hold) do not work properly on right-click.
from the don't doc in pins

[balmy pike]

ohh I see

thank you for pointing that out

my apologies for not reading carefully the pinned messages

I'll go through the documents

[hollow shell]

Oh hang

on

That is indeed something that is in the doc as something that shouldn't be suggested

because of the fact that channels can't be on r-click

But I think we have actually made progress towards fixing that or making that completely possible now, recently

@gray nebula You have this informations right?

[safe oasis]

was that a 1.4 thing or just a new method to do it?

[gray nebula]

being good at code solved it

[cobalt pewter]

yooo

[gray nebula]

(gigachad gif i won't post due to meme gifs not being awesome to post 😇 )

[safe oasis]

(gigachad emote instead)

[gray nebula]

But yes you can use right click channeling, the biome blade attunement already uses that

[hollow shell]

aight cool I will remove that from the sugg Don'ts then

for Crystyl

[safe oasis]

hey you can suggest that now (lol)

[balmy pike]

wow

u folks r the heroes

thank you very much

🙏

[hollow shell]

👌

[balmy pike]

and thank you for the hard work in porting to 1.4

[fossil bronze]

shouldn't that don't about leg weapons be changed, since they're reworked now?

[hollow shell]

Oh uh

[fossil bronze]

should be something like "don't suggest malice/super-rare rev drops to be added back in" imo

[hollow shell]

I guess Legendaries don't exist anymore yeah

I can't remember if we planned on reinstating their statuses at some point in the future

The Death Mode enviro effects died too

This one will probably go once we port to 1.4, too

Probably. Hopefully.

[gray nebula]

for sure iirc

i am almost sure i asked ozz and he went yes its fixed

[hollow shell]

Epic.

[fossil bronze]

"Hey there everybody, it's me again, coming at you live with a hot new suggestion:"
lmao

[gray nebula]

actually i gotta ask ozz for some more help with stuff

the great thing w 1.4 tmod tho is that you can always fix huge bugs that have been annoying everyone forever since breaking changes are fine in beta

[small timber]

sorry I just want to get more confirmation from this, in 1.4 tmodloader multiplayer does using clentaminator still crush the server?

since it had been a problem that I (assume) 1.4 probably fix in someway

[fossil finch]

they don't know the mod hasn't compiled

[dense ferry]

Truly insightful

[tardy frigate]

nerf dog pls

hes insanely hard right now\

[dense ferry]

Could explain on your sugg why you think that

Detail the attacks you think are overturned and such

On your sugg

Not here

[small timber]

I usually don't like to post link but I think this is basically what DoG is right now https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6lLVL2PhpoQ

[golden tulip]

@neon spire

1. no boss adding suggestions
2. incorrect formatting

[neon spire]

@golden tulip sorry I did not know

[golden tulip]

its alright

(i would advice removing the suggestion)

[hollow shell]

I got it

[golden tulip]

ahok

[eternal escarp]

@wary silo that is not how you make suggestions

and you definitely do not need to ping fabsol for them

[wary silo]

but what if i want to get banned from the sewrver

[eternal escarp]

then you can just leave the server and do it faster

[wary silo]

that is not as fun

[eternal escarp]

too bad

[wary silo]

nah

[frail mantle]

that is your personal problem

[worn salmon]

bruh

[cobalt pewter]

mf pinged fab in a botched sugg

not like he'd ever response

[worn salmon]

i love suggestions like those

[small timber]

I mean what these type of person are trying to do is pretty obvious, no need to give them extra attention, just let mods deal with them

[frozen hornet]

huh why hasn't the bot sent any new suggs?

to dev that is

[supple plover]

Is this channel also for ideas

About content

[golden tulip]

ur right

@inland saddle

[golden tulip]

depends on what you mean exactly

there is a pinned document about don'ts in #suggestions-posting

[hard bronze]

Ouch

[digital saddle]

https://i.imgur.com/MGXYzvf.png

sugg of all time

[warped tide]

fabsol should ah ehll naw… now!

[hybrid steeple]

!!

[hearty obsidian]

@wary silo brhu

[golden tulip]

what is going on

lmfao

[cerulean trench]

we do a little trolling

thats what

[golden tulip]

wow you sure trolled us

epicly

[cerulean trench]

fixed it for proper formatting

[golden tulip]

astoundingly funny

[cerulean trench]

indeed

very

comical

[golden tulip]

@hollow shell unepic suggestions

[pulsar marlin]

Talking in #suggestions-posting

That's kinda cringe innit bruv

Like for real, this channel is aimed to make suggestions, not to talk here

[cobalt heath]

3 warns to be given

[ashen warren]

Lmao

Immortalized image.

[untold pagoda]

what the fuck

[fossil bronze]

why did they ping fabsol

wha t

[neat linden]

the what

[winter moth]

Because kids have no impulse control.

Why else do you think?

[grim tusk]

@zenith hazel kill

[eternal escarp]

those stayed for long enough i think

yeah okay i was just about to ping em

cool

[unborn siren]

it’s edited, so they probably edited in the @

which doesn’t ping

[zenith hazel]

@wary silo don't post meme suggestions, and don't ping fabsol for smth random

@rigid tiger @cerulean trench that goes for both of you as well, if you're going to discuss smth then do it here, instead of posting one-off messages in #suggestions-posting

[cerulean trench]

understood, but it was worth it 🚎

[rigid tiger]

whoops

[inland saddle]

[whole wedge]

Goddammit

i just posted something and it wasnt ready yet

i hate when i accidentally push enter

[wary silo]

im sorry i realize now that what i did was wrong and i wont do it again. although the part about malice being too easy and needing a higher difficulty i actually meant. the rest was a joke and a bad 1.

[inland saddle]

Okay this time it wasn't my fault

[golden tulip]

what happened

actually i probably wont understand kek

[grim tusk]

Try completing malice without wingslot, alch npc (even lite) and luiafk if you did
But in the end difficulty is subjective. If you even then found malice easy then, good for you I guess

[hollow shell]

@inner lark #suggestions-voting message

[hollow shell]

Brimstone Hearts are just impossible to balance eh

I know they've had a history of specific resistances

[gray nebula]

the joke is that apparently murasama is true melee

damn i rly do hate true melee being just smth thats arbitrarily defined through code

[unique vector]

so true

when do we change brimstone hearts to puzzle-based fights that you have to kill to break scal's shield to do damage to her

[digital saddle]

Alternatively sep could just be like a 15 second phase where you need to dodge

But I think that's beyond the scope of a sugg

[inland saddle]

Bot is going to be offline for a while

[grim tusk]

Make hearts take reduced stealth damage
Same reasoning as above

(this is satire)

[grim tusk]

i'll have to recheck Seared pan eventually cuz hearts and Thanathos def cucked some of its testing

and it feels extremely powerful if you dont miss which considering how fast the pan is...

[warped tide]

Give Hearts Hitscan Lasers with no warning and Timed Damage Reduction
“i hate fun”

[blazing prism]

NERF TRACKING DISC HARDDDDDD

[grim tusk]

known but rebalancing will not be soon

that will be after port update

[crude geode]

is the great pre-hm to hm rebalancing a thing that's happening (after far more important port update happens)? or is it just a couple of weapons that need to be adjusted

[hot zephyr]

tracking disc my beloved

[fossil finch]

tracking disc nerfs be like
just nerf the damage,.,

(of the ss lasers

[grim tusk]

both

[crude geode]

makes sense

[hearty obsidian]

@digital saddle but sep2 hard

(it will still get shredded)

VV

Enforcer

Chicken cannon

Etc

[wary silo]

today i almost did malice leviathan as a first boss

[grim tusk]

With shitton of “QoL but not really” mods imma assume

You’re gonna need proof of that

And this is also not the channel to post about that

Use #calamity-mod-talk

[unborn siren]

Malice Anahita + Leviathan is rather easy compared to other malice bosses imo

[grim tusk]

yea but even then on pre-hm you aint doing that shit

[unborn siren]

time to try to do Anahita + Leviathan in pre hm on malice

[inner lark]

13/11/21 is my first one. Was in limbo and before new system so reposted. Link is not my suggestion

[small timber]

I think the concern is that the suggestion (that is almost the same as yours) recently get denied so chances of it getting approved is not high

[slate turtle]

Yeah you're aren't doing pre-hm malice anahita & levi lol

[small timber]

since that batch of suggestion are all sent at a period of the new suggestion bot, meaning that the approve/deny of the suggestion is much more recent than it seems (like jan/feb this year)

[unborn siren]

not as first boss, but with pre WoF equipment

[inner lark]

Well idk how this new system or the star requirement needed for it to be accepted

[small timber]

star requirement is whatever right now (not the concern), the concern is your suggestion is almost the same as that one, and that suggestion just very recently get denied

probably around January/February 2022

[inner lark]

Well I did not actually post that suggestion, probably did it in November, one around mid Feb and now

[small timber]

this is the exact date it get denied

[inner lark]

Oof

[small timber]

ya, but since it is a similar suggestion (if not identical in the idea), it is basically same suggestion despite not you posting it, and since it gets denied very recently ya chances of your suggestion getting through is very slim

[inner lark]

So no repost of failed suggestions from 2.5 months ago?

[small timber]

not sure the verdict on it, just that you have to rely on devs basically flip their decision in the span of 2.5 months

since many other "repost" suggestion are more often that it never got enough votes to go to the devs

[inner lark]

Well my current suggestion is probably the 4th one ever about said situation so I'll take the odds

Even if they're against me

[west jackal]

I think the last sugg I made got accepted

But no update since the bot sent that message

[grave zinc]

@unborn siren - Your suggestion has received an updated status!

[Add a bit about how Providence drops a different item depending on which biome you kill her in to the Profaned core tooltip]

It has received enough votes to be passed on to the dev server for voting! You'll be notified again when a verdict is reached.
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@frail moth - Your suggestion has received an updated status!

[Make Meteorite Turn Into Astral Ore When Sprayed With Astral Solution]

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@gilded scroll - Your suggestion has received an updated status!

[**Wulfrum Furniture. **]

It has received enough votes to be passed on to the dev server for voting! You'll be notified again when a verdict is reached.
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@cobalt pewter - Your suggestion has received an updated status!

[Make Uzi more accessible.]

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[grim tusk]

Alive

[grave zinc]

@elfin plover - Your suggestion has received an updated status!

[Let worldgen spawn an arena in dungeon like temple golem room]

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@dapper thicket - Your suggestion has received an updated status!

[Convert Pre-Hardmode, vanilla ores into astral ore within the initial Astral Biome creation]

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@rancid jasper - Your suggestion has received an updated status!

[Have the Drunk Princess' Death Message be "[insert Drunk Princess name here] passed out..."]

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@cursive briar - Your suggestion has received an updated status!

[Give Summoner weapons their own set of reforge modifiers]

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@digital saddle - Your suggestion has received an updated status!

[Despawn Cosmic Guardians during DoG's death animation]

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[grim tusk]

Time for judgement

[distant gyro]

suggestion jumpscare

[inland saddle]

We love Discord :)

[unborn siren]

cool

I hope it passes dev voting

it would save me and a lot of other people from the repeated questions about it in #help-advice-read-pins

[unique vector]

among us

[grave zinc]

@elfin plover - Your suggestion has received an updated status!

[Let worldgen spawn an arena in dungeon like temple golem room]

It has been add to the devs' to-do list and planned for implementation!
You can check out your suggestion again here: #suggestions-voting message

@hardy dock - Your suggestion has received an updated status!

[Rename Victory Shards]

It has been voted upon, and the devs decided it would be a good idea to implement it. This doesn't guarantee implementation, as plans may change/alternate plans may be made, but it does highly improve chances!
You can check out your suggestion again here: #suggestions-voting message

[frozen hornet]

Pogging

[distant gyro]

wtf did someone voteskip

[small timber]

I mean isnt the dungeon arena thing kind of like on todo for like forever, just didnt happen yet due to technical issues

[unique vector]

i think bot is

actin sus

[distant gyro]

when the discord is

suspic

[inland saddle]

(It was intentional, a result of Discord shitting itself and making un-announced changes)

[small timber]

I mean I do have this file if decided to post it manually, I prepared it after seeing last week didn't get notified

(should be correct I assume)

[inland saddle]

Everything has been fixed now

Unless Discord makes more un-announced changes, the bot should no longer shit itself

[small timber]

since weirdly last week suggestion did get reaction in the voting server, just didnt get notified in discussion

[unique vector]

until discord does another api update where they delete every bot for safety reasons

[small timber]

so not sure how the bot will react to it

[unique vector]

[inland saddle]

I know why

I can explain if you'd like

But essentially it was a result of those un-announced changes

And proper notification will be happening again

[sleek wadi]

Any sugg updates that happened in the period the bot was screwed up?

[small timber]

^ , except the victory shard one that only got a reaction today

[inland saddle]

All the messages that were just posted by the bot are it getting caught up

All suggestions are accounted for

[sleek wadi]

Alright sick

[cobalt heath]

hailfail its a really good sugg but i will have to tell

people dont like their damage reduced

[ruby plover]

it's the fate of nerf suggestions

people don't want their super strong stuff to no longer be super strong

[cobalt heath]

even if it was a good nerf people dont like nefs

but i hard agree whit the sugg

melee and murasama is way too strong in that phase

[ruby plover]

you can literally use murasama/dragon rage when you aren't using melee, and it can often just be better

[cobalt pewter]

hail better off be using his available connections to discuss about that rather than making a sugg

literally better chances of happening

average calamity player doesn't like when their beloved numbers are reduced

there were people who were unironically against the post-ML curve flattening

most games*

Dead Cells community, for example, has been banded against the dumb exponential damage system, which hurts the game more than it helps

which is a relic of the early stages of the game that's pretty much irreversible now

[swift sinew]

I am surprised my suggestion on voting isn’t getting much stars; it probably means it won’t be added, but I have hope

The suggestion about profaned Crystal

[small timber]

I think the main one is just 0.01% of playerbase actually do the challenge

and they dont want a brand of "you didn't obtain this the legit way" to be on the accessory

[swift sinew]

Possibly, but I didn’t mean something that blunt; although I get it, either which way making it known will upset some people.

[unique vector]

we discussed this when going over legendaries in a meeting

we decided its fine if ppl wiki dive for its stat boosts

we’ll gve an indicator for when it upgrades itself tho

[swift sinew]

Sorry what thing are you talking about?

[unique vector]

the community

[swift sinew]

Oh, I apologise, continue

[unique vector]

no im done wirh my explanation lol

[frozen hornet]

So it'll have an indication like shattered community to let you know that it gained some more stats?

[small timber]

although does the stat it gives is still given? or just when it is upgraded

since the upgrade stat given is not exactly uniform (each late game boss make the accessory much more powerful than each pre-HM boss)

[unique vector]

@small timber

[small timber]

ah, in that case do I just delete the suggestion?

since if devs already plan on it (somewhat) the suggestion will be kinda pointless

[unique vector]

i mean you could keep it ig idk

we could reconsider

[small timber]

then I will just keep it, probably good to see how popular the idea is anyway

[small timber]

@digital saddle probably change the word use "recharge", I cant figure it out what it actually means
what I means is probably just change it to another word that have more clear meaning

[digital saddle]

he does his recharge phases

where his fire extinguishes

on all difficulties except malice

[small timber]

malice specific change can be abit confusing, I think it will be better to just keep it short and simple, and say that he will teleport into your face

since otherwise people who never touched malice will have no idea what you mean

(and also for people not knowing the internal reference/wiki they will have no idea it is referred as "recharge phase" anyway)

[vast summit]

DUDE

CALAMITY NEEDS TO BE SIGNED OVER TO RELOGIC

[fossil bronze]

what 🤨

[vast summit]

I know some lawyers

[grim tusk]

🤨

[frail mantle]

nah

[half sage]

[warped tide]

and

why exactly

fabsols doing a good enough job managing this clusterfuck and relogic is probably done with terraria

[golden tulip]

theyre literally working on the next update

they are clearly not done with terraria

[eternal escarp]

i think they mean, major work

[golden tulip]

1.4.4 is pretty big

but not 1.5 true

[eternal escarp]

ye

[cobalt heath]

1.5 is gonna come in some way or form

[grim tusk]

1.5 Calamity is already here

[cobalt heath]

(i mean vanilla)

[eternal escarp]

the context is vanilla yeah

[grim tusk]

no lol

1.4.4.4 hasnt even released yet

[eternal escarp]

and yeah i doubt, the engine barely handles terraria as is

[cobalt heath]

it will prolly be terraria 2 or just updating the old

[grim tusk]

likely the former

[eternal escarp]

yeah a whole new sequel is more likely

[cobalt heath]

but as they said, the team is studying unity atm

unity based terraria would be cool to see

[ashen warren]

@keen depot

[grim tusk]

@elder mist

They have done this on every channel

[cobalt heath]

@north plank can you do something w this guy

atleast delete the sugg message one

pls

thank you

[north plank]

@ashen warren please don’t do that anymore, take a day to reflect

[golden tulip]

how can i

vote

the fuck

[cobalt heath]

truly

a epic moment

[grim tusk]

What the fuck

[cobalt heath]

bot didnt know what to do

[golden tulip]

[cobalt heath]

it saw a profile and decided that it should be voted

[small timber]

@quasi barn yharon's bullethell (most notably the final bullethell pattern at 15%) have a very distinct pattern that once you figure it out you can dodge it super consistently

Because despite what it seem, Yharon bullethell patterns (all) is not random

[grim tusk]

Yea they are not

[small timber]

Ya, the more difficult part of the fight is probably remembering where he leave the lingering flares or tornado (or dont get locked at a bad position before horizontal flare attack)

[grim tusk]

And also thank fuck the predictive shots got nerfed

Those before were awful, now they are bearable

[hearty obsidian]

@digital saddle not sure how well malice-based suggestions are received

Likely not good considering its not made to be fair

[grim tusk]

Malice is scheduled for a rework

But Death needs to be finished first

Also he could have jumped and dash and possibly survive in that clip

[digital saddle]

i mean

old boc also could be dodged technically

it was just

extremely hard

you technically have enough time to rod away from aureus if you get teleported on top of as theres like maybe 0.5 seconds before he has contact damage

that doesnt mean its not dumb/shouldnt be changed though

[hollow shell]

@inland saddle 🤔 🤔

[inland saddle]

?????

What the actual fuck

[hollow shell]

Also @magic bear shrines are going to do a big die in the not-too-distant future

[inland saddle]

Oh

Wait

Fuck

I know what it is

I was testing the reaction code when I was debugging

I forgot to remove it

Shit lol

[hollow shell]

lol

[inland saddle]

I’ll fix as soon as I get home

Could’ve sworn I did remove it

But evidently not

Thankfully it won’t affect #suggestions-voting since the reaction it adds is a star anyways

You can delete the star it doesn’t do anything

All I did was make it add another reaction based on if the reaction initially added was in a guild or in DMs

Since the ❗ was added and it’s in a guild the star got added

[hollow shell]

aight

[distant gyro]

[digital saddle]

[inland saddle]

Oh my god lol

It added stars in dev too

No idea how I missed this

[crude geode]

sugg bot just really likes suggs

[inland saddle]

Can suggbot see this channel?

No

Okay

Forgot lol

[hollow shell]

I thought I pointed that out to you lol

[ruby plover]

the bot seems to like that one

[grim tusk]

@inland saddle again lol

[ruby plover]

PFF this is brilliant

a belief system??? wha

[sleek turret]

religion

[ruby plover]

also there really do be 3 suggestions in a row with improper formating

bruh

[small timber]

@rustic magnet the lore of the game is that the player is literally killing gods it will be extremely counter intuitive to believe in something you are trying to kill

let alone that is probably a major content/gameplay change (which is unlikely to go through from a suggestion)

[sleek turret]

king slime secret cult

[slate turtle]

Deleted moment

[rustic magnet]

my bad, thanks

dont make suggestions when its like 3 am folks

[whole bridge]

What if there were summons that somehow synergies with different summons? Or summons that worked differently than others so its worth having some instead of just your highest DPS summons

[inland saddle]

I’m not gone

Home*

[small timber]

extremely problematic to code

[inland saddle]

It’s gonna be like ~2 hours

[small timber]

at least I assume

[sleek turret]

would be hell to balance I think

[whole bridge]

I don't think it would be that bad

What if

There was one that just carpet bombed the whole area instead of targeting one thing?

[small timber]

that will more likely to be just a weapon

instead of an entire mechanic

since most summons (what I assume you are talking about) do not work with the idea

[whole bridge]

I'm trying to think of ways to make summoner a bit more interesting

Like instead of just using what has the highest dps

[small timber]

I mean 1.4 do add whips (LOL) so ya, it is at least something

not exactly amazing, but it is something

[whole bridge]

I like em :p

[small timber]

whips is kinda just "yo have this melee weapon for summoner you are melee class now"

[whole bridge]

Well i mean mage is just ranger but with mana instead of bullets

[small timber]

and for a 0 defense class where the entire gimmick is you don't have to aim so you can dodge better, now must use one of the most close range weapon in the game

[whole bridge]

I'm not trying to start an argument x_x

[small timber]

nono, I am just stating what whips kinda do

I know in some sense it make summoner more interesting, but ya, just not perfect

[whole bridge]

I think, there should be some sort of way to reward being risky

Like whips,

Or just more depth in general

Autocorrect why

[small timber]

calamity kind of do it with true melee and rage/adrenaline (and whips are coming), what they need is as you said, someway to not make spam 1 minion = only viable option

like more limit to 1 minion maybe? not sure

[light marsh]

Whip are good things,before they were add,the gameplay was the same.spawn your minions,don’t go too far,take a weapon and do some damage.

[small timber]

I tried to get a suggestion of "using multiple different summons buff summon damage", but everyone just say it will be super hard to balance and also kinda just a gimmick for a gimmick

[whole bridge]

Maybe a summon that supports?

Like the more of that one summon you have the faster u go

Or something

[small timber]

it will be (again) very hard to code, unless it is just a stationary summon that provide player buff

if it actively support other minions it will be nightmare to code (and too high effort)

[whole bridge]

Not really

[small timber]

on the other hand sentry do kinda feel the role (not perfect example, but you get it)

oh that type

[whole bridge]

?

[small timber]

sry referencing to this, not sure if it fits with your idea

since it will kinda force 1 summon spam even more

[whole bridge]

How so?

[small timber]

because you are rewarded even more for spamming just 1 summon (when it currently is already just spamming the strongest summon weapon you have)

unless said support summon weapon do no damage (then it will be pointless because minion slot is precious), unless the buff is gigantic

[whole bridge]

But the support ones won't do damage

Oh we both typed that at the same time lol

[small timber]

minion slot is super limited in calamity is the problem

[whole bridge]

Hmm

[small timber]

and calamity kinda balance around you having set amount of minion slot at certain point of progression, so even just using 1 for non-damage can make you deal much less damage

[whole bridge]

What if there was a summon that worked kinda like the buff banner in tf2

[ruby plover]

for summoner diversity to be promoted, summons would likely have to be moved from being buffs as well

[whole bridge]

Only that minnion could fill up a gauge that gave a buff

[small timber]

that will be the closest one to what you want to achieve I think, just minion slot problem (unless it dont take minion like borealis bomber)

ya, buff slot with summon is a problem, especially that it can get deleted

[whole bridge]

Like a buff that increased dmg by a multiplier or gave life steal for a bit

[small timber]

I will be honest some sort of gigantic mechanic change usually is hard to come through a suggestion

[whole bridge]

Eh, i like thinking anyway :p

It's fun

[small timber]

considering "too high effort suggestion" kinda just dont go through, the closest idea is really just summon that provide buff

ya can think about it, although if you want to make a suggestion for it probably have to be more limited in scope

[whole bridge]

A summon that works as a platform

[small timber]

ice rod kinda do that, but similar to the summon it will likely be extremely clunky to use

[whole bridge]

it was a joke

[violet dagger]

lmao what

[river glen]

LOL

[small timber]

wait sorry what is your suggestion about? like change the projectile?

since didnt weapon elemental type kind of died? or at least have no gameplay impact now

@river glen ya after reconfirming in-game I think all weapon elemental tag are removed, so it being a fire/frost based weapon no longer have any impact

[dusty saddle]

What did those tags even do?

[small timber]

previously eskimo set (and Drunk Princess alcohol) basically increase weapon damage with respective elemental tag (eg: cinamon roll increase weapon damage with "fire" elemental tag)

basically now those things only affect the debuff you apply, the weapon themselves no longer have any tag

eg: cinamon roll now increase "fire" based debuff damage, like on fire, frostburn, cursed inferno etc

[unique vector]

i alr have a plan to rework frigidflash

[fossil finch]

Pog

[river glen]

oh?

[river glen]

oh?

i read on the official wiki

hmm

[small timber]

wiki change take times (or maybe missed), since this is a rather recent change

[maiden tartan]

@gray nebula Hey I didn't notice this earlier but the current exploding Pumpler you updated has a new major issue. Since it's an explosive weapon that fires multiple projectiles at once it runs into issues with immunity frames. There are often times you'll shoot the weapon and literally deal like 6 damage in total because only the contact damage occurs and this almost invalidates it against anything that isn't a segmented enemy.

[small timber]

@steel kernel necromantic geode item drop is kinda just to reduce the grinding on 2 specific item, particularly life alloy and core of calamity (+bloodstone since ravager drop is part of the bloodstone boss)

not necessarily that it drops all materials at the tier

[steel kernel]

i see

[cobalt heath]

oh god did the bot break

btw newest sugg has format issue

[dense ferry]

May I ask if a Aquatic Aberration nerf is planned already?

[inland saddle]

Forgot about this lol

Just fixed it

[ruby plover]

suggestion bot is starting to have a mind of its own

it's making votes by itself

[gray nebula]

@maiden tartan I'm pretty sure I gave it local iframes (aka every projectile can hit despite the i frames from other sources)

[fossil finch]

the plan??????????? What

[eternal escarp]

The Plan, the Ankh Shield material accessory

[fossil finch]

o

[river glen]

what about a suggestion to remove the 1 evil block that spawns from breaking a demon alter or is that no longer a thing.. it just adds more work for no reason and you already have to deal with a giant stripe to contain it and making it more tedious just makes an average player take more work constantly esp if they not on new calamity progression

[tardy smelt]

well i mean

smashing evil altars isn't really necessary anymore

since ore spawn is tied to the mechs instead

[river glen]

well people can also play on non calamity progression

[fossil bronze]

that's just temporary iirc

[golden tulip]

but they are balancing around the hope that they are

[fossil bronze]

i think the early hardmode rework is going to be forced enabled once it's finished

[fossil finch]

It's not

[digital saddle]

i think its only disable-able cause mod compatibility

[maiden zodiac]

What do you think about this, I found it on Reddit.

Got soul for rogue class?

[small timber]

not the right place for this, #calamity-update-talk is more appropriate

[fossil bronze]

there already exists lunar-tier rogue items

[small timber]

also something like this will be a very major change, considering devs apparently don't want to touch lunar pillars (codes)

[hybrid steeple]

also meld exists already

[fossil finch]

dies of death

[cobalt heath]

and no we dont want a 5th pilar

[small timber]

oh ya, 5th pillar

I still like fun

[cobalt heath]

I would like to stay sane thank you

[small timber]

since it is rogue pillar every enemy is completely transparent until they are near player like Dmode mimic, do super high burst damage from stealth/ambush, plant traps and mines

[fossil bronze]

where would the 5th pillar even go

right on top of spawn

[maiden zodiac]

A new pillar would be amazing!

[cobalt heath]

to the spawn

[cobalt heath]

you stop right there

[fossil bronze]

there's no room lol

[unique vector]

i am

[small timber]

theoritically it makes a lot more sense than meld, but at the sametime 5th pillar is pain

[unique vector]

pretty sure we do NOT want a rogue pillar

[cobalt heath]

you realise how awful pilars are now even?

[unique vector]

the whole point of meld is so we dont add a 5th one

lol

[cobalt heath]

and a rogue pilar would require in that theming some kind off blood enemies

[small timber]

astrum deus literally exist just so the player don't have to redo pillar ever except rogue which for once in their life take the L

[unique vector]

meld also rewards u more for fighting pillar enemies

[cobalt heath]

meld is perfect

meld is like

you dont have to do a 5min extra thing to get rogue stuff

you just get it as playing trough lunar event

[fossil finch]

it wouldn't: there is no room on a world to place it without it being dumb, the event is already long enough as is, and it in general just wouldn't save much purpose

[small timber]

I proposed something like this but pretty much is denied because lc is vanilla

and I thought just enlarging his sprite will kinda make him just look weird (like Dmode destroyer right now)

[cobalt heath]

lc should not be touched

he is very good atm

like he is not as much off a joke as in vanilla

[digital saddle]

i respect your incorrect opinion

[small timber]

I mean hitbox wise he is not really fine, I just feel he is too weapon dependent

[cobalt heath]

lmao+don't care+ratio

[small timber]

he has little HP to balanced for the fact that he is hard to hit which also results in weapon that can hit him just melt him completely

[novel belfry]

but at the same time non homing weapons struggle over homing weapons, and we dont really like cheese here

i respect xpcqe326's opinion here

[warped tide]

No

theres Exodus armor though

which acts like Rouge Post ML

[maiden zodiac]

There's plenty of space!

[cobalt heath]

i hope your kidding

[fossil finch]

extra large isn't real and you have to cater to all world sizes about things like this

it would also be assymetrical anyways because of 5 pillars instead of 4 and that'd look bad

[cobalt heath]

and you have to think about how the other ones are placed

[fossil finch]

point being no one wants a 5 pillar

[half sage]

only mod to add a 5th pillar as far as I'm aware is tremor, let's keep it that way

[sleek turret]

Tre[censored]

[hard bronze]

They should make crystyl crusher post yharon instead of post scal

[sleek turret]

crystyl crusher is a dev item

[hard bronze]

Cuz i hate mining out a huge arena ith a blossom pickaxe

for the exo mechs

[sleek turret]

and dev item tier is after scal and exo mechs

[hard bronze]

oh

fuk

[sleek turret]

you can use scorpio right click with rocket IV ammo

[half sage]

the dev gave permission for a sugg in the past that wanted to make it auric tier

[sleek turret]

so you destroy large areas wth it

yeah that's in the past

[half sage]

don't think it got to dev server tho, or if it did I forget if it did anything

[full root]

Dug

Sub

Sug

Sugon

[gray nebula]

it's cool that lc switches things up. imo

[unique vector]

true andlre

LC is honestly one of my favorite vanilla bosses

hes just

very squishy

[golden tulip]

player sized bosses are cool and based

funny how the final 3 antagonists are all player sized, counting yharim

[unique vector]

draedon is technically at least 3x your height

[golden tulip]

oh

close enough

my point still stands

yharim is a little taller than the player as well iirc

[sand ermine]

yeah

yharim is like at least over 6 feet tall or something

[golden tulip]

nothing compared to basketballers

[fossil finch]

we are like 6 feet tall

yharim is like 9 feet tall

[golden tulip]

imagine being 9 feet holy fuck

[ashen warren]

dont need to

[fleet igloo]

Can I suggest adding Infernum title cards into the base mod

[hollow shell]

@muted vale You need to include a reasoning with your suggestion, included in the same message, separated from your title line using a line break (Shift+Enter)

[muted vale]

sorry

[hollow shell]

Also yeah @fleet igloo you could suggest something like that, as long as you can substantiate why

[gray nebula]

Unpopular opinion and no offense to dom but na

itd work for like, some bosses

putting it on every boss makes it feel not as cool

Like, Crabulon getting a titlecard kinda cheapens the swag of dog getting one if you get me

Radiance hollow knight's full screen whiteout only works so well because she's the only boss to have an effect like that u get me

i mean in infernum all the bosses are meant to be boosted versions so its reasonable but yea mayb not for the base mod 💅

(imo)

[hollow shell]

Makes sense

[cobalt pewter]

actually treating it like HK is good

[hollow shell]

(also Revenant it would probably be good to have an image reference for what these look like for people who are not familiar with Infernum)

[cobalt pewter]

most bosses just have their name fade in on the corner

[unborn siren]

Draft:

Remove Spectre Staff from the Magnetic Meltdown recipe

Magnetic meltdown is crafted with Magnet Shpere, Spectre staff, and 3 Dark plasma. This is very similar to the Phantasmal fury recipe, which is Spectre staff, 2 Ruinous souls, and 1 Dark plasma. Both use the Spectre Staff and Dark Plasma, so Magnetic Meltdown using 2 weapons doesn't match up with all the other post ML upgrades to post Plantera dungeon weapons, like Shadowbolt Staff (3 Armored Shell, 2 Ruinous souls, Shadowbeam staff) or Vensuian Trident (Inferno Fork, 2 Ruinous Souls, 1 Twisting Nether). It's fine that Magnetic Meltdown isn't the same tier as those other weapons, but it shouldn't use Spectre staff in it's recipe.

[cobalt pewter]

with grand exceptions taking up the entire screen (Radiance, NKG)

[fleet igloo]

Hmm, so I could change it to be just "add title cards"?

I'll delete it for now while I rewrite it

[warped tide]

I mean adding Title cards, Dialogue appears over the Boss while its talking, and maybe more bossess with Dialogue would be cool

like the Brimstone Elemental, Ana, Cal Clone, maybe the Ravenger, Yharon, Polter, and Storm Weaver?

[unique vector]

@river glen thats a 1.4 feature

omegalul

[river glen]

is it?

[unique vector]

afaik

@hollow shell

[gray nebula]

no

1.4.4

iirc

labor of love

[unique vector]

oh

[gray nebula]

or something

i forgor

[unique vector]

mung

[river glen]

i never heard of that change..

k.. then...

[fossil finch]

It is a feature for next update

[river glen]

next calam update?

[grim tusk]

Vanilla

[river glen]

so is the suggestion still valid?

[unique vector]

prolly not if its eventually going to be in vanilla

so

technically falls under future content sugg

[river glen]

shit...

"- Any suggestions regarding future/upcoming content which has yet to be implemented.

Note2: This also includes anything related to Terraria 1.4: Journey's End. Wait until tModLoader and Calamity have been updated to be compatible with it before suggesting anything related to it. This includes Master Mode, hold off on any ideas."

but i am not suggesting for stuff that are in 1.4 vanilla.....

[unique vector]

it is in 1.4.4

which will eventually be in tML

which will eventually be in calamity

[river glen]

oh

i see

[unique vector]

yeyeye

its uhhh

techncially* not disallowed

but you'd effectively be suggesting something redundant

[river glen]

i see...

[hollow shell]

I mean

for context:
"Make buff stations (ammo box, sharpening station, crystal ball, bewitching table) last forever

The tediousness of constantly having to reset them is just not needed and you should be able to not constantly have to refresh them especially as summoner. This makes it less tedious of having to constantly having to worry about mainting the buffs especially as a ranger who often times with fast weapons needs to worry about their ammo usage or summoners not losing a minion. This makes it more convinient is just a huge time saver in the end"

I feel like you could suggest this now, considering it could be done wholly independently to 1.4.4 doing it

((I do not know if tMod 1.4 is the release version of 1.4 or the most recent one))

[swift sinew]

What’s the minimum required stars for a suggestion to be approved?

Also how long do the voting suggestions stay on

[cobalt heath]

there is no req

[frail mantle]

there's no minimum

[cobalt heath]

read the pins

[small timber]

top 20% of each week get in

[cobalt heath]

in posting

[small timber]

please correct me if my suggestion is wrong, since I can only based it on observation rather than having information on the actual code

[golden tulip]

seems more like a bug than a feature

[unique vector]

seems like a bug

or an oversight

[small timber]

I will probably create like 10 worlds later and check each of them to see if it is consistent, to make sure that if it is an oversight/bug at least it is consistently happening

[small timber]

ok since there is no way I clear planetoid by hand this is the best I can do, but it is completely whack

though I think several thing is consistent:

1. Luminite Planetoid basically only spawn around centre of map (except small world where it gets a bit whack, as it is still centre but pretty much half way to left/right)
2. If centre is blocked, Luminite Planetoid refuse to spawn eventhough there is empty space elsewhere
3. Sometimes Moon Lord just don't spawn planetoid
4. Killing Moon Lord at the edge of the map apparently have some impact on whether Luminite Planetoid spawn or not

the rest will probably have to rely on someone who can check the code

[golden tulip]

again, this sounds more like a bug than intentional

intentionally making world gen mechanics optional is an odd choice

[small timber]

I think the "only spawn at centre of world" can be intentional, others not sure

since there is no way for me to confirm which part is intentional which part is not

[fossil finch]

Always the most recent one: now that preview system exists stable will take some time to get it but updating tmod doesn't take much time

[pastel wind]

nkg

me when dev ping (i forgot to disable)

but either way the point is that barely any bosses have that fullscreen introduction which makes them stand out and it's really makes the figts feel quite a bit more important

[gray nebula]

ngk has a screenfade to black

[pastel wind]

same shit

also isnt it red

[gray nebula]

no

it fades to black and his name appears in red

p sure

[pastel wind]

had been quite a while since i played hk

but either way both these effects have the same meaning

emphasize the boss' importance

although i dont get how nkg is any amount important

that mf is just hard

[short walrus]

inspiring the proper amount of fear when you go into him for the first time

[gray nebula]

I mean lore wise he's kindof a big deal I guess since nightmare heart and all that and also it was DLC so like they wanted to make the expansion hit harder ig

[safe oasis]

literally the king of the entire nightmare realm

[small timber]

I mean if something like this happen for major calamity boss, what will be the title of devourer of god?

considering well, devourer of god already sound like a title rather than a name

[unique vector]

he wouldnt get a title

scal would probably just get “brimstone witch”

to befair i feel like short single names are a lot more menacing than weird titles but

dark souls moment

[golden tulip]

dog has "The Conceited" in infernum

[small timber]

I will assume infernum is kinda non-cannon

(and also the conceited for DoG do not sounds fit, since using a personality only as a title sounds weird)

[cobalt pewter]

so true

honestly the titles are kinda weird in cal to me

Providence makes the display name way too long

Signus doesn't need one

Yharon is what

[small timber]

I mean the single name treatment should probably be reserved for yharim only (soon™), others getting a title while he don't will give the impression that there is a huge different

[fossil bronze]

yharim has a title doesn't he?

jungle tyrant yharim

also if the infernum title cards were to be added i assume the titles for existing bosses would be moved to those?

[fallow edge]

add in an endgame item that can grab bosses and use them as a weapon

I Can finally use DoG as a belt weapon against yharon

[cobalt heath]

is that sugg allowed

it looks sus

[fossil finch]

remove all of this weapons actually

[fossil bronze]

pretty sure the way night's edge/bloody edge works is for mod compat

in case a mod needs you to use a night's edge for something

idk though

[cobalt heath]

new weapon posting look sus

but i guess it isnt a specific item but like it also is a specific item

[fossil bronze]

also

[north plank]

specific item is more so if they have stats, a name, or specific details how they would work, etc iirc, I could be wrong as suggs aren’t quite my forte

[fossil bronze]

it'd be kinda redundant

there's not much you can do with shortswords

[drowsy plank]

i guess a crimson variant of the night's stabber is... something i guess, but bloody edge already is the crimson counterpart so idk what you're even asking. id really prefer to cut down on world exclusive items personally, so i dont see why they'd change the recipe to make them exclusive.

[fossil bronze]

so a crimson night's stabber would just be "night's stabber but different sprite and slightly worse/better stats"

[cobalt heath]

it seems that its not sus

[dusty path]

[[Exo Gladius]]

[red storm]

https://calamitymod.wiki.gg/wiki/Exo_Gladius

[cobalt heath]

and that is almost never used at that stage

[dusty path]

THIS IS MY FAVORITE NON-TRUE MELEE WEAPON

[fossil bronze]

mmyes
exo gladius, known pre-hardmode shortsword

[cobalt heath]

plus it isnt that interesting

[dusty path]

Wdym

[fossil bronze]

i mean like

[dusty path]

No

[fossil bronze]

later game weapons are usually more complex/interesting than earlier game ones

[dusty path]

I wanted to tell you that there is something to do with shortswords

[fossil bronze]

ok

[dusty path]

Understandable

[fossil bronze]

what i mean is
in the context of where a crimson night's stabber would go
i don't think it would be very interesting

[warped tide]

Ah

yeah we do lack a Crimson Alt for the Nights Stabber

oh and

the True varients of the swords do not inflict Ichor or Cursed flames despite the energy part of the weapon implying it

[dusty path]

[fossil finch]

NIGHTS EDGE

IS NOT A CORRUPTIOn

WEAPON

slam slam slam slam

[sleek turret]

graaaaaagh

[fossil finch]

DO NOT ADD A CRIMSON ATL FOR THE NIGHT STABBER

SLAM

[sleek turret]

tbh it just exists for funny thematic reasons

[digital saddle]

specific item suggestion
someone alert the police, ill get the shotgun

[drowsy plank]

mod said it was fine, still a bad sugg tho

lmao

[minor coral]

I have an idea for a debuff in future updates ( if its gonna happen lol) its called Earthen Curse, its inflicted by terra weapons and it inflicts On fire! Frostburn and Cursed inferno and lasts 5-10 seconds (depending how long target got hit with it) if it gets realised i think its gonna be cool.

[fossil finch]

no

[minor coral]

ok

i just wanted to do a suggestion

But i guess not in this life lol

[grim tusk]

Specific feature suggestions are not allowed

Especially if as complex as this one

[minor coral]

Oh

[gray nebula]

We Love debuff spam

DoTs :heart_eys

also isnt bloody edge already just crimson nights edge

oh you mean how its not exclusive

eh

Also shortswords are mid

[fossil finch]

Mid more like meh

[dusty path]

Correct

[drowsy plank]

uh, think the latest suggestion could use some revisions

[unique vector]

i concur

[golden tulip]

1987

[grim tusk]

@green surge
1- wrong formatting
2- balance suggs are kind of not recommended you can just ask tester team to check it out (Last time i checked it was ok on everything but demon vs worms)
3- vague reasoning

Pretty sure there where plans to kill Sandstorm in a bottle

Too strong

[tepid wadi]

4- Dm'ing me with just "nerf blazing star" will not help either.

[fossil finch]

the interaction is ok

Because siab is too strong with that unintended speed boost anyway

[golden tulip]

oh

[tepid wadi]

[golden tulip]

hi kendra

[gray nebula]

Dang i was gonna asl why not me (sob emoji) but then i saw that asterisk..

trolled

[tepid wadi]

[fossil finch]

Iban vs metarex being top of the dev list

Merk is literally like 5 devs below

[gaunt quest]

ah right you meant username list

uh no one saw that comment

[gaunt quest]

metarex won

[tepid wadi]

@gray nebula How long we going to do this shenanigans?

[gray nebula]

idk

[tepid wadi]

[unique vector]

are u guys battling for the top dev throne

[west jackal]

I am already seated upon it

[unique vector]

i will claim bottom’s barrel

[keen zealot]

@dire parcel can't tell whether that's a joke or serious but underexplained but regardless neither is allowed