eclipses fall maybe?
#suggestions-discussion
cobalt heath
cobalt pewter
Venerated Locket is like
ass wtf
its design lends itself to a really unstable balance
digital saddle
Not to mention the visual clutter
It's super bad with seraphim and supernova
Using seraphim for scal is 
small timber
since it is pretty close I will just post the entire file (this is stealth strike only)
I think weapon matters a lot, since some stealthstrike have much more multihit which either benefit rtn (armor pen) or ven locket (spawn more projectile) more
but considering yharon have 90 defense probably rtn more
cobalt heath
exe blade prolly is better w rtn
but the guestion was mostly about s-rogue, where vene shines
small timber
ya considering locket should be better on stealthstrike, that it is 1 tier behind (polter vs dog) AND deal only slightly more damage, ya ven locket is not very good
I will do a test but I think there is a slight chance ethereal extorter might be better than ven locket
Ethereal extorter
2:49 | 31939, 74510
3:10 | 31732, 74016 (this is a bad attempt I miss way more shot)
2:58 | 31100, 67532
frozen hornet
Try fighting in mp
well, "mp"
Just fight it in an mp server except there's no one besides you
Apparently it fixes it somehow
small timber
well, "mp"
this is pointless, I tried to do DoG because I forgot ven locket is actually post-DoG, so doing test on yharon is more accurate
frozen hornet
Ah fair
digital saddle
Why is venerated locket a stealth accessory
Iirc the secondary projectile doesn't even benefit from stealth
calm elm
The cosmilite knives do iirc
calm elm
i thought that was the secondary proj
small timber
I assumed it is a stealthstrike accessory since it has stealthstrike effect (I didnt know exactly how strong it is)
I will do a different spam rogue test with exe blade later
ruby plover
The secondary projectile cannot stealth strike
It will just be the regular weapon projectile
calm elm
The secondary projectile is also classless though iirc
Both are classless, however the cosmilite knives can be boosted by rogue bonuses
Unless that changed
calm elm
The secondary projectile cannot stealth strike
And rightfully so
Thatd be absolute hell to balance
small timber
is nanotech and eclipse mirror still used in spam rogue?
small timber
replace it with?
(not super familiar with rogue since all my playthrough are stealth)
to not be too offensive I will just slot in cotbg for now
calm elm
vampiric talisman? Idk
digital saddle
the secondary projectile (if it hits) deals 6.5% of the damage of the weapon's base damage and cannot be boosted in any way
it seems
calm elm
yeah
slate fjord
Idea for the boss yharim in front of the boss there will be something like boss rush from his circle of trust: this is anahita,the god of slugs, draedon and a CLONE Calamitas
digital saddle
The God of slugs
slate fjord
Slimes*
calm elm
what does this message mean
cobalt pewter
Idea for the boss yharim in front of the boss there will be something like boss ...
no.
slate fjord
what does this message mean
I meant that how would (probably) look better boss fight with yharim
calm elm
from what ive heard yharim is planned to be more of a 1 on 1 fight
frail mantle
By the time you fight Yharim you’ve already fought his closest circle
Yharon, DoG, Draedon and SCal
slate fjord
As if the logic of the game is that you can call them again
frail mantle
Yharon is already planned to appear (but not directly) during the fight, Draedon doesn’t care about the fight and just wants to watch, SCal is on your side at that point and DoG is fucking dead
calm elm
Yeah
small timber
suggestion for yharim will be pretty pointless
calm elm
Also true
small timber
considering we have 0 idea what is the devs' plan on it
digital saddle
Isn't yharon dead too
frail mantle
Kinda
small timber
the lore item doesn't imply it, but maybe
frail mantle
He can revive because wacky zany phoenix powers
ruby plover
suggestion for yharim will be pretty pointless
Also it’s beyond pointless, cos it’s not allowed
small timber
Also it’s beyond pointless, cos it’s not allowed
ya that too
frail mantle
Either way yeah the devs have some plans for the fight already
slate fjord
Either way yeah the devs have some plans for the fight already
Well, it depends more on the developers.
small timber
I don't know why but everytime I spam exe blade without adrenaline or super high damage spec the dps just feels so bad
distant gyro
eblade would be pretty bad with venerated since it is clockwork
small timber
sorry what exactly does clockwork mean? max proj per sec limit?
distant gyro
click left click once
frail mantle
Fires multiple times per use
frail mantle
Clockwork assault rifle and the like
small timber
oh ok that clockwork
distant gyro
so for each 3 throws you get 1 projectile
instead of 1:1
even worse for hypothermia which is like 7:1
calm elm
Ouch
small timber
not sure what other good spam rogue option is there, maybe I will just try to spam eclipse fall later, just to make sure it is a more fair test for ven locket
considering that (maybe) become a suggestion
grim tusk
Locket + eradicator could work
golden tulip
Idea for the boss yharim in front of the boss there will be something like boss ...
anahita
what
what does anahita have to do with yharim
slate fjord
what does anahita have to do with yharim
Well, as I read anahita, this is something like a Yharim's military leader
Yeah
small timber
anahita is a random sea monster, yharm is like an army commander
calm elm
Tfw total calamity
half sage
💀
small timber
I dont exactly know if my setup or my playstyle don't suit midrange weapon/spam rogue, but anyway it is for consistency and comparison
distant gyro
for potion sickness that is
ashen warren
Oh
small timber
I typed something along the line of "it is probably deliberate to either keep balance or don't want to do significant vanilla changes", since it is likely false I deleted it
ashen warren
Ok
distant gyro
for mana sickness that is a legitimate penalty especially for prism weapons where your damage is suddenly snapped in half
frail mantle
i think having both a cooldown and a debuff was intentional
not sure
can't remember the reason stated either
distant gyro
and by extension validates the point of chaos stone's existence
ashen warren
True
small timber
I think it is ok, since health potion is still a cooldown (and it is easier to see from the 21 other debuffs)
ashen warren
So they shouldn't remove mana sickness, just potion sickness
small timber
i think there's no way around that
potion sickness is probably this ^, from a technical standpoint
unique vector
exclaiming that suggestion
you shouldnt rlly use extremely anecdotal evidence for mana sickness being “irrelevant”
purely stat wise, a -20%+ debuff is huge
small timber
isnt it up to 50%? if you spam it
distant gyro
fonde
unique vector
plus plus, i think we have a genuine reason against removing the vanilla debuff icons for mana /potion sickness
yeah thats why i said %+
^ basicallt what iban said
ashen warren
Gone
unique vector
explode
small timber
#suggestions-posting message also should this be exclaimed? since from the earlier convo it seems like that is dummy dps not against actual boss (at least the suggestion didn't stat/prove otherwise)
so like, very inaccurate
analog ferry
Let me know if you want me to rephrase anything from that
small timber
Let me know if you want me to rephrase anything from that
I think that might somewhat count as reverting changes (which is disallowed), but probably let the mods judge
and also pretty big sprite change from a suggestion
analog ferry
I think that might somewhat count as reverting changes (which is disallowed), bu...
Oh wait really?
I didnt know that
small timber
and another thing is lore-wise, I think scal is never intended to be an eye so her being an eye for the first 50% don't really make sense?
distant gyro
there is a pretty big opposition to using the eye sprite again except for the brimstone jewel
analog ferry
Where'd you find that
small timber
pinned message, "suggestion don't" document
analog ferry
Gotcha
small timber
or this https://docs.google.com/document/d/1OA3GxJ4w4QA4pCkngwt8kqW8Qq18U5KOCUJEucUS8ck/edit?usp=sharing
analog ferry
I'll keep it in mind
cobalt pewter
have someone told the poster of the last sugg about calval and how the hote vanity is actually from there
small timber
oh ya I didn't use calval so didnt know about it, probably best to tell them
distant gyro
yeah, simply
cobalt pewter
@vagrant spindle hote vanity is part of calamity vanities mod, not base cal
better to sugg the similar idea to calval instead
vagrant spindle
oh really? i actually didn't know
i remember the HotE showing up in vanity before i used calvan my bad
cobalt pewter
you probably already had calval mod in the first place for that to happen
distant gyro
the two vanity pets the main mod has support for is daawnlight and howl's heart
everything else is vanity's mod
vagrant spindle
alright, thanks for the info
cobalt pewter
byeah, it's a nice idea but shouldn't be suggested here
since it's calval's expertise
unique vector
stop thinking
golden tulip
ok
unique vector
ok continue
golden tulip
thanks
what do you think of making draedon labs
inaccessible based on what your last decrypted schematic is
so you actually have to explore and not hoard all the schematics you found in prehm
small timber
that will be extremely annoying, depend on what makes it "inaccessible"
golden tulip
just make tiles unbreakable and instakill if teleport
small timber
unless calamity plan on going super plot heavy (like how mod of redemption make an entire indestructible lab) makign it completely unbreakable is probably not preferable
small timber
probably can add more plot elements, but I think thats about it, since the discovery will be much more linear
golden tulip
because
- solves the issue of not getting the schematics in order
- finding everything prehm and then not having to find any labs for the rest of the playthrough is boring
small timber
but I think main concern is still having 5 randomly indestructible structure in the world that the player cannot access until way later (dungeon and temple is only 1, here you have 5)
eternal escarp
yeah tbf the dungeon is enourmous in comparison to any other structure in the game
granted, its one of the earliest structures unlocked
small timber
then if that is acceptable then move onto the second topic, reason for the change? other than basically delay lab discovery
small timber
since to my knowledge it is actually the exact opposite, where most player only try to get all 5 labs at post-Yharon
golden tulip
i stumble upon all labs when exploring in prehm
small timber
they dont bother to get to the lab (except one that just run into)
space is very likely, underworld depend on how much you expand hell arena, others actually have some random element (to naturally discover)
golden tulip
because
1. solves the issue of not getting the schematics in order
2. finding e...
this way you also dont have to bother "adding references to the previously unlocked schematic" because youll go in order anyway so that problem is solved
small timber
ice is ok since the biome is rather small (at least not massive), I cannot find jungle most of the time and sunken sea can be rather random, as sometimes a massive sunken sea is generated
eternal escarp
since to my knowledge it is actually the exact opposite, where most player only ...
i know many people who rush ice lab for the item in the chest, and usually youd want to get ssea, jungle, ice and hell labs for their locked weapon gear
golden tulip
ive found all of them just randomly in a lot of pt's ive done in 1.5
small timber
I just think suggesting the change purely to delay discovery is not a very strong reason
eternal escarp
sky lab is usually rushed for the materials as the immediate first thing you do as you spawn
golden tulip
you are ignoring the 3 times ive mentioned the other reason
small timber
if you mean just to make sure the schematic is found in order I think this is good enough
eternal escarp
id personally say that lab rushing is an issue
not exactly a major one but it is definitely an issue
small timber
what I mean is you need a stronger reason for it to be completely locked, considering some lab will be locked until post-Providence because of decryption
eternal escarp
(the ice lab is the last one right?)
small timber
ya ice is the last
eternal escarp
h
theres likely a reason but hell lab wouldve made better thematic sense i think
regardless
small timber
not the issue with space (since you guys say it dont matter much), more of the issue with something locked until so much later into the progression
golden tulip
idk i think locking labs is a better solution than just referencing the previously unlocked schematic
because you can still run into the same issue
small timber
ya it is a solution, although just my opinion that reason is not strong enough (at least not to completely lock the labs to be progression tied)
eternal escarp
i can see the reasoning to make it more of a progressive gameplay thing rather then something you will just do immediately out of order
small timber
for me at least it must have some plot element for the lab being locked to at least make sense (or in another word "worth it")
considering draedon lab do tied to exo mechs fight
golden tulip
locking labs also makes it less boss rush, albeit only a little bit
i will suggest this later since this wasnt an immediate shutdown so far 
small timber
tldr (just my opinion), I think the idea definitely can work, but probably not only to make schematics obtainable in order but also for another reason (not necessarily have to be plot, that is just an example)
(and rushing schematics kinda depend on person, since there are also people who don't bother with it till exo, or don't even know they exist)
golden tulip
cool
cobalt heath
what do you think of making draedon labs
inaccessible based on what your last de...
wouldnt that be an issue w the non linearity policy
cobalt heath
if you mean just to make sure the schematic is found in order I think this is go...
funnily enough this was your idea
golden tulip
wouldnt that be an issue w the non linearity policy
i have never understood the issue with linearity so idk
fossil finch
wouldnt that be an issue w the non linearity policy
No?
You aren't locking anything behind something it wasn't already locked behind
golden tulip
also true
cobalt heath
cool idea!
fossil bronze
iirc you can only craft them if you had already obtained the schematic you want to craft or you're in a pre-1.5 world
oh wait it said that fuck
gray nebula
woww haha wowww haha
god i hate that it has a reasonable chance of getting enough stars
itll get denied but zamn
also i mean it wouldnt be breaking the nonlinearity but itd be kinda just annoying like
sky lab locked till hm woohoo
golden tulip
you mean mine?
gray nebula
Yeah the text after the crossed out messages are abt yours
And i mean while some labs are easy to find some others like the ice and jungle lab are kinda harder to find and well i mean i guess you can find em all pre boss u gotta epxplore a lot like idk
golden tulip
in like 4/5 playthroughs ive found all of them randomly prehm/ early hm
gray nebula
in any case itd just be "ok i beat X boss now rush down to [wherever] to grab the schematic
i mean like thats awesome
its when most of the exploration happens anyways
golden tulip
exactly
gray nebula
so itd be super artificial and not really exploration to force players back to the labs then.
Just go back thru whatever tunnel you found, or go drop down in hell for a sec, grab the schematic lab you already scouted out, and magic mirror ur way back to the codebreakr
no real difference
golden tulip
you commented on the last one didnt you
gray nebula
i commented on the 2 last ones
cuz its basically the same thing
"schematic rushing" is .. a non problem? imo
Like it just rewards players that took their time with complete exploration with having the arsenal stuff available as soon as they get the materials
golden tulip
that makes the lab just not important at all for the rest of the run tho
thats boring
gray nebula
well ok but
i don't think that "just speed back down there with your high level gear to open the chest and tp out after having scouted it originally" does . much
to help that
And not all players are gonna do as much exploration as one another u get me
golden tulip
it's better than what it currently is imo
gray nebula
no
So anyways
The last point i mean true but i dont think its that horrible of an issue
golden tulip
i mean the sugg itself isnt that important, its just to fix a small issue i personally have
the way it does it now works, but i think it could be better that way
gray nebula
idk
i mean itd even introduce the separate problem of players still being confused
Like if i find 3 labs that are locked (including the sunken sea one which i assume would stay locked..? until aerialite is available... (?)) and then the player just
doesnt know what to do or what causes them to unlock
if a new player found a locked SS lab post DS i don't know how theyd just go "oh yeah let me just re check there just in case"
Its not exactly an improvement in terms of new players being confused about the schematic ordering
golden tulip
thats where the schematic comes in play
golden tulip
schematics literally say "go to the jungle and find my lab" blah blah
gray nebula
and even then the schematics don't tell you when
so like hypothetically "oh but the sunken sea one is always open" ok imagining that, i get told to check out space , and then i go there and its locked
so i guess i'm just supposed to go check back on the sky lab every once in a while just in case
hot zephyr
also stuff like the sky lab is meant to be an earlygame, pre-boss means of getting a fast potion farm
locking it behind the sunken sea would make it post DS
ashen warren
ik it wont be voted in but now someone on the dev team has the idea of intro animations and even if it may be in 3 years it might be added as a major update
but prolly not
golden tulip
it will just be exclamation marked
ashen warren
I am aware
golden tulip
..so just delete it
its not allowed
do you want a dev to see it that bad
its literally in the doc
its a don't
hot zephyr
golden tulip
dw this guy always makes good suggestions
untold pagoda
sotrue
golden tulip
what were they
ashen warren
adding telegraphs to boc dashes to prevent telefragss and an aura around wof that indicates if your in range for it to enrage/tentacle you
golden tulip
neato
ashen warren
everyother suggestion I have made can simply be summed up as "skill issue"
golden tulip
if you know that, why suggest it
ashen warren
I dont anymore
golden tulip
A91 hero arc
gilded scroll
i really wanna make a suggestion for Wulfrum Furniture, give the scraps some other use
gilded scroll
<:taxevasion:611637175381000193>
listen, smartarese
fossil finch
Did you mean to say smartarse or something
fossil finch
truly
gilded scroll
time to do it
ashen warren
gl
also I still think that the idea of a naturally generated arena in the jungle would be a good idea
gilded scroll
it is done.
golden tulip
also I still think that the idea of a naturally generated arena in the jungle wo...
no
hot zephyr
john wulfrum toilet
@sinful violet my sanity is gone
gilded scroll
why?
hot zephyr
y'know
golden tulip
we NEED a john wulfrum toilet
golden tulip
no you dont get it its funnier the 37th time
hot zephyr
stop posting about john
i'm tired of seeing it
sinful violet
I love john wulfrum he’s hilarious
golden tulip
john wulfrum will never die
sinful violet
I’m going to go post about john wulfrum on reddit
gilded scroll
what have i done?
what have i unleashed?
sinful violet
🖕🖕🖕🖕🖕!
golden tulip
in time (plural)
hot zephyr
And it will grow
gilded scroll
i regret what i just did
hot zephyr
nah it's a fine suggestion
sinful violet
blame these pinheads
gilded scroll
i mean, what are you gonna do with the scrap after you make the armor? nothing really
sinful violet
you're fine
hot zephyr
who you callin pinhead
golden tulip
i mean, what are you gonna do with the scrap after you make the armor? nothing r...
hoard
gilded scroll
ill let you two have your moment
hot zephyr
fossil finch
What is this interaction
unique vector
true
hot zephyr
hi choomfie
unique vector
@hot zephyr chungfie
crude geode
#suggestions-posting message @hollow shell Could we get an exclaim on this since it has no actual numbers behind it in terms of kill times or anything
half sage
speaking of, how'd the ark go through to voting when it didn't have kill times
hollow shell
It did have DPS numbers but yes kill times are indeed better
Doesn't matter much cuz the testers are still workin with the AotC line
@plucky gale #suggestions-voting message
meager cave
unborn siren
Arsenal toilet
cobalt heath
we need luminite toilet
worthy orchid
arsenal toilet 
cobalt heath
we need exo toilet
worthy orchid
also does a shadowspec toilet exist
cobalt heath
statigel toilet
worthy orchid
true tyrant's toilet
unborn siren
Chlorophyte toilet
ruby plover
I mean. Yeah it would be a joke suggestion
cobalt heath
IT DOES??
frozen hornet
fuck i actually want those but mods may see it as joke sugg<:HDfailure:482263678...
"may"
unborn siren
fuck i actually want those but mods may see it as joke sugg<:HDfailure:482263678...
just make several seperate suggestions at different time periods to add furniture sets for each type
each furniture set has a toilet
cobalt heath
just make several seperate suggestions at different time periods to add furnitur...
not allowed
i would need to sugg em all at once
frozen hornet
If you want furnitures so bad just sprite them yourself smh...
crude geode
so true
cobalt heath
Perennial toilet
i got an idea for this one
time to try making it
i just need to get the base model for a toilet in terraria
muted osprey
just ask YuH or some other calval dev to add them :tro
cobalt heath
If you want furnitures so bad just sprite them yourself smh...
but like this
golden tulip
please no more lab furniture
theres the furniture you can make from lab tiles and the exo furniture that is the exact same but more futuristic
hollow idol
just ask YuH or some other calval dev to add them :tro
I will pull the teeth out of the next person who suggests something arsenal themed to vanities. Too many arsenal suggs
cobalt heath
it was about making toilets
hollow idol
O, was going off the latest sugg
cobalt heath
we need more toilets
hollow idol
wait for 1.4 iirc
cobalt pewter
don't add toilets
cobalt heath
why not
cobalt pewter
it's been unfunny since its inception
tardy smelt
wait for 1.4 iirc
1.4 toilets 
untold pagoda
toilets in general 
golden tulip
(he doesnt go to the toilet)
cobalt pewter
not sure why it needs to have flight time boost
I think changing the dash itself would be better than slapping a stat boost on related accs
right now tabi dash is just "haha me go far"
small timber
I mean that kinda is the main point of the accessory (compare to valor/aegis)
cobalt pewter
while bonk and rams give iframes when going thru enemies
(hitting would be a better word, but you get the idea)
small timber
there was a discussion before for buffing ninja gear but it basically went "make it scuffed valor/aegis make the accessory less unique/distinctive"
basically instead of the lots of advantage you get for valor/aegis, ninja gear is better (much better) at moving away from boss/attack, mainly for kiting from the bosses
but only just at it
since it was super hard to decide what actual buff (to the dash notably) ninja gear needed, I focus the suggestion more on making ninja gear worth using than to give it unique buff
cobalt pewter
hmm
small timber
(although tbh ninja belt upgrades do not exactly have unique effect either, they are essentially master ninja gear with jump speed)
cobalt pewter
well that issue stems from the fact that they're just reusing Tabi dash ig
frail mortar
AS is really not that hard to fight especially with the gear available before fighting it. A large arena and dodging help.
I mean yeah the homing can be a nuisance on occasion but you can just outmaneuver them
digital saddle
unless malice moment
unborn siren
just be fast
hot zephyr
so true king
grim tusk
dude really sugged two things at once
grim tusk
actually ye lmao
fossil bronze
six suggestions in one
damn
neat linden
invite, void slash upg, dash menu, more vanities, more animations and camera thingy??
gilded scroll
nad wulfrum furniture 
fossil bronze
void slash
golden tulip
i think he tried to beat this sugg in most rules broken
neat linden
exactly
gilded scroll
im gonna be honest, i did wulfrum furniture as a joke. i was just memeing lmao
fossil bronze
there's someone working on wulfrum furniture to submit in the art server iirc
grim tusk
mf "just install Cal Vanities"
gilded scroll
as i said, it was supposed to be a joke suggestion
fossil bronze
isn't there already a mod that adds overhaul's camera anyway
gilded scroll
once its being voted on, there aint nothing i can do about it
fossil bronze
how is it determined which dash is used currently?
is it the bottom accessory or the highest tier dash
south flint
i can't believe i missed it
unique reef
Lol
ruby plover
i think something specific to have in malice brimmy would be for her to reset acceleration when teleporting
cos she often comes out of a teleport at ludicrous speeds
and in an unpredictable direction, often
hollow shell
Hm
This suggestion could definitely be worded in a way that would make it be not SIS-like
But I don't wanna backseat and tell em how to rewrite it
unique vector
backseat suggesting
cobalt pewter
yooo
crude geode
But I don't wanna backseat and tell em how to rewrite it
isn't that the whole point of #suggestions-discussion tho?
fleet igloo
i think he tried to beat this sugg in most rules broken
Which one tried to beat it
hollow shell
It had the 🗜️ on it so I didn't bother but I'll do that
grim tusk
The 🗜️ no longer deletes suggs
small timber
is the meteorite turn into astral ore suggestion even possible? I mean from a technical sense
also the suggestion kinda has false information since you can replenish astral ore with astral slimes (and it is impossible to mine astral ore before deus which will make astral slime drop ore)
ruby plover
it's kinda a fair sugg but to me it would be pretty redundant, cos there's already a renewable source of meteorite (astral crates) and astral ore (fishing, astral slimes, beating aureus and spawning another meteor)
small timber
ya kinda, but I am worry more about from technical perspective
because I have a feeling it is either gonna be buggy or impossible to implement
ruby plover
well, astral solution exists, so making clentaminator stuff has been done in calamity
so surely it would just be a case of adding meteorite to the list of blocks that it can convert
small timber
you probably have to ask rover for that
not sure what is the rule for resposting, some say 2 weeks, 1 months or even 4 months
thorny mason
I probably could reword my suggestion indeed, I should have more thoroughly looked through the pins.
I'll have a think and try and make it less specific
small timber
I think your suggestion is more of a matter of technical difficulty
since well, not sure how they can code plant growth stage
thorny mason
Perhaps, but I don't think its too outrageous.
Anyhow, I've revised my suggestion, I hope it falls more in line with requirements now, and if you have any suggestions feel free to ping me with them, as I'm likely to otherwise miss them
small timber
I think specifically for herb replanting it is actually not much of a time save (or issue)
replanting herbs is not exactly the hard part, the hard part is to acquire the necessary amount of herbs to constantly supply potions (along with other materials), assuming no alchnpc/luiafk infinite duration potion is used
so probably something like make herbs grow faster will be more direct at accomplishing what you want? not sure
thorny mason
I mean its twice the work is it not? To break them and then replant them?
sleek wadi
Herbs do still need a buff as in my eyes, NPCs and blood orbs both make herbs obsolete.
thorny mason
If breaking them also replanted / reset them, thats half the effort you have to put into herbs every time you farm them
sleek wadi
Money farming isn't hard and the potions you can't buy are all fishing gated so herbs get no time of day there.
small timber
I mean maybe, just that replanting is not exactly the issue
the issue is that unless you have a massive herb farm (like 100+ for each herbs) you can easily run out of herbs
considering some herbs only bloom at a weird time (eg: deathweed only at full moon and blood moon)
thorny mason
No more having to select each seed in inventory and then replant, its just done. Makes it much much more convenient.
Currently harvesting herbs is an annoyance imo.
I have to take out the item, harvest, replant, put away item, delete spare seeds.
With that, it'd just be take out item, harvest, put away item.
You could autotrash the seeds you get if the plants just reset
small timber
I mean maybe, just that replanting is not exactly the issue
nono what I mean isn't that "you should remove replanting part from your suggestion", what I mean is that if you want a more direct way to accomplish your suggestion you can ALSO (maybe) suggest make herbs grow faster in general
since to my eye that is even more of an issue, not that replanting have no problem
thorny mason
Herbs do still need a buff as in my eyes, NPCs and blood orbs both make herbs ob...
I'm almost in hardmode atm (only WoF left) in my playthrough, 2 player multiplayer, malice mode.
We die. A lot.
If we bought the potions every time, we'd be broke super fast. Just did the math, it'd be 49 gold each fight!! After hoarding cash all game, no reforging
And that'd also drain the blood orbs super fast too.
I still find herbs mandatory at this stage in the game
sleek wadi
Will concede on the blood orbs, bit of a bitch to get a lot of before the end of the game, but money farming has not been an issue for me. Especially now that boss items aren't consumables
Multiplayer+Malice is also really extreme conditions
small timber
personal opinion but I just think potion buying should not be too forced into the game
currently herb farming is so inefficient that you probably need at least 50 (most likely 100) of each herb to efficiently supply your boss attempts
and also herbs do help with non-vanilla potion so not exactly irrelevant
considering not everyone can first attempt all bosses, even on lower difficulty herbs consumption can be quite high on each failed attempt
sleek wadi
In a fairly ordinary run, being singleplayer rev, the potion costs are super managable. Multiplayer AND malice exponentially increases those costs by introducing another goon to juice up and having them die significantly more often thus needing more buffs
thorny mason
Though the suggestion of faster herb growth is also a suggestion, they already grow fairly fast - improved yield would be more pertinent imo.
That way you'd get improved total herbs, without having to micro manage farming herbs more often.
small timber
maybe, to me herb growth is a bit random, sometimes they don't grow for 5 days sometime they grow 1 stage like 1 min after planted
thorny mason
I haven't needed a massive herb farm, but I have been tending to it fairly often, and been conservative with potions overall.
Blinkroot is the most annoying - unlike other herbs the bloom timing for each one is different
small timber
personal opinion but I just think potion buying should not be too forced into th...
^ regarding potion buying my opinion is still this, I vaguely remember convo (not sure if is devs) about potion buying being somewhat of a temporary measure before a better potion/herb acquisition method is introduced
so I think there is no harm in buffing herb farming which can be rather inefficient right now (and exponentially so with higher failed attempt, so inefficient herb farming is explicitly very new player unfriendly)
considering there are also combination potion like yharim stim and cadance potion which requires large amount of herb per potion
thorny mason
Another herb farming tool I just though of would be a seed planting tool - let you replant your seeds easier.
It would automatically switch to the seed type of the planter you're placing on.
You'd be able to break every herb type, and then replant them all in the correct place w/ auto place, all in one go.
Currently I have to break one type of herb, then replant, then move onto the next one. This would eliminate that.
There are just so many possibilities for improved farming.
If there is already planned improvements for herbs, I very much look forward to it.
I also changed my suggestion post again - broadened its scope of improvements somewhat based on our discussion.
small timber
it can work, but ya probably have to wait for someone who is familiar with terraria coding to tell if that is possible
since many of it (I think) can be a technical difficulty
thorny mason
These guys are wizards I believe in them
cobalt pewter
no they're Patrick
small timber
currently herb farming is so inefficient that you probably need at least 50 (mos...
it is still a lot (and this is singleplayer number)
hot zephyr
i've honestly never needed a farm bigger than 15 tiles per herb
small timber
and herb growth can be a bit weird, as in inconsistent, some common herbs like daybloom are fine but things like deathweed can be rather hard
depend on how many potion is used, if you are to use most of them 50 is likely what you need (or 100 if many failed attempt)
hot zephyr
they bloom during a full moon or a blood moon
small timber
ya it is a lot better now that blood moon relic is inconsumable, previously it was wait full moon (I forgot if Cosmolight advance moon phase)
hot zephyr
either toggle to a full moon with cosmolight or a blood moon with a blood relic
it does
honestly if the potion grind becomes too much, you can jjust
lower the difficulty
if you're racking up hundreds of attempts slamming your head into a brick wall i'd just
go from malice to death?
i understand that potion farming can be repetitive but if you're still needing ways to speed up the process when the mod spoonfeeds you an entire farm pre-boss, a simple lowering of the difficulty would reduce the farming a lot
or just expand the farm outwards, the only limit to how big a farm can be is the world size
keen zealot
i've honestly never needed a farm bigger than 15 tiles per herb
I've never needed anything bigger than a 12x16 area
ruby plover
and herb growth can be a bit weird, as in inconsistent, some common herbs like d...
i think the worst herb, worse than deathweed, is shiverthorn. it blooms so, so, SO rarely
keen zealot
it was fixed in terraria 1.4 but you don't get 1.4 changes yet unfortunately
small timber
ya shiverthorn have weird bloom
keen zealot
fortunately once it blooms it stays bloomed unlike blinkroot
it is literally just rng otherwise
small timber
the only reason it isnt out of stock is because I dont think that many potion use shiver constantly (other than exploration ones)
wait what even use shiver
hot zephyr
1.4 should hopefully be out sooner rather than later
small timber
oh lifeforce basically
keen zealot
oh! heads up by the way
if you grow the plants on their actual tile, such as snow for shiverthorn, ash for fireblossom, etc. and use staff of regrowth you can get seeds out of a mature but not blooming plant
can't remember if this a 1.4 change or not though
just uh, be careful around them lol
frozen hornet
english is funny
unborn siren
You bake cookies but cook bacon
Why is it called a building if it’s already built
Buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo is a valid sentence
grim tusk
you can drink a drink
hard bronze
This is kinda just me going on about some random idea -- so it may not sound that good but what if there was a bumblebirb - or mini dragonfolly swarm event post moonlord that can happen in the jungle
cobalt heath
sounds annoying af
golden tulip
as long as you can control the event
cobalt heath
if it was a natural event i would start hating dragonfolly
hard bronze
Yeah that would be awful
And what if dragonfolly was like the t3 acid rain old duke except for the bumblebird swarm
and the bumblebirbs are easy to kill they can just overwhelm in numbers
cobalt heath
i like the idea but man are you putting needles just to the right spots
hard bronze
wdym
cobalt heath
i would hate the event to pieces if it was the way to summon dragonfolly
cause then i would actually need to grind events for main line bosses
hard bronze
Ok fair point
cobalt heath
and there is a reason i only summon old duke after i have done t3 acid w bloodworms, even if i have to cheat them in
hard bronze
what if u need it to craft certain items
like the drops from the event or something
and theres no boss tied in with the event
cobalt heath
put ellugent feathers for the event or like put darksun fragments there for silva armor?
that could be interesting
hard bronze
yeah
or like u know how theres endo and exothermic energy and darksun fragments
u could also do like draconic fragments which can be used for auric tesla armor?
or in silva
cobalt heath
draconic frags should stay yharon exlucive
hard bronze
Except the thing is that the frost moon and the pumpkin moon & solar eclipse change something with the setting
hard bronze
draconic frags should stay yharon exlucive
I thought that was yharon soul fragments?
cobalt heath
wait ye mb
hard bronze
that wouldnt work tho because idk if the bumblebirb event would change the celestial body in the sky
cobalt heath
but idk i dont see a purpose for this? We have buffed solar moon and dragonfolly imo is fine as is
hard bronze
yeah
drowsy plank
a way to get more effulgence feathers faster would be nice i guess
maybe just make draconic swarmers have a chance to spawn during a solar eclipse or something?
drowsy plank
it's a pretty useless change but im trying to find literally any reason to make this change lmao
ik, the enemy was p rare so maybe if it had more ways to spawn that could be... interesting??? it's really a stretch at all tbh
eternal escarp
why make DFolly just have no purpose with it though 
in a progression way, making the feathers easily achieved elsewhere would pretty much remove any reason for DFolly to exist
as most of the weapons it drops could very well just be random crafts / drops elsewhere
digital saddle
i wanted to add "there could potentially also be some kind of special effect when doing so (like firing water blasts or something)." to my sugg about wave skipper but I dunno if that would be too SIS-ey
eternal escarp
summons not critically striking might be some issue with source vanilla, but i am not a coder so what would i know
not sure why its something calamity specifically would need to add though
eternal escarp
summons not critically striking might be some issue with source vanilla, but i a...
actually now i think i remember a whip that allowed summon crit chance (why) so maybe not an issue
golden tulip
whips :)
eternal escarp
ashen warren
Its possible because summoners amulet did it
eternal escarp
destroying it is the purpose (altix' mod (i gave them this shrunken calamitas
eternal escarp
not sure why its something calamity specifically would need to add though
this is the main issue
safe oasis
allowing them to crit is a giant damage boost
ashen warren
wait it doesn't huh I thought they did
eternal escarp
and would very likely cause a need for a massive rebalancing of damage values and the placement of crit boosts (possibly) in all summon weapons and accessories
for such a small unneeded change itd require quite a bit of effort
there is really no reason why summons need to crit
safe oasis
(the sugg is now gone)
eternal escarp
h
ashen warren
why is it that they don't take down the calamity wikia so when you search calamity wiki the inferior version pops up instead of the new .gg version
golden tulip
cus it
hasnt been taken down yet
idk
probably because terraria was supposedly their biggest page and attracted the largest amount of people so they want to squeeze out as much as they can
ashen warren
understandable if its attached to the calamity wiki is attached to the terraria one but GOD I hate wikia fandom
digital saddle
Fandom will never take the wiki down because it's a passive source of revenue
ashen warren
wait so its up to fandom to remove it
digital saddle
yes
it will just fall into disrepair and eventually become so unusable and outdated that people will use the new one
ashen warren
well thats nice I guess
crimson fern
what do y'all think about a male heart of the elements?
basically one for husbandos? (earth elemental, ice golem)
hard bronze
I feel like supreme calamitas should be more hyped up throughout the playthru -- sort of like draedon
Draedon teased his exo mechs to the player in pre hm and sort of added hype to the boss fight so it didn't feel anticlimactic. I feel like SCal should have the same treatment as she is intended to be fought around the same time as SCal
untold pagoda
what do y'all think about a male heart of the elements?
🤨
hard bronze
Ok but does calclone mention her final form and stuff
imagine ur first playthrough u would probably think ur done with calamitas at that point
untold pagoda
imagine ur first playthrough u would probably think ur done with calamitas at th...
boss checklist users
i guess to differentiate between the clone and the real one
or smth
and also supreme court jokes
hard bronze
Actually rereading this i guess i see where ur coming from but idk i just wish there was more hype leading to the scal fight
like just some mention of scal
hard bronze
Wait amidias has scal dialogue?
untold pagoda
yea
hard bronze
Ah then im an idiot
untold pagoda
im pretty sure he mentions her evaporating the ocean
though to be fair
who interacts with npcs these days
hard bronze
Me
untold pagoda
based
hard bronze
Hopefully they fix it witht he biome update
Wait am i allowed to suggest an option for infernum mode or should i go to #other-mod-talk
Oh alr
Thank u
eternal escarp
calamitas is mentioned in Amidias, CClone, i believe Permafrost mentions her atleast once, and is related to the lore of the Brimstone Crags and the Desert (former sea)
its possible the crags will make note of her more when they get reworked
desert? no only via amidias
crags dont mention her directly yet afaik, nor with the lore item
hard bronze
They should mention her in the schematics for the sunken sea then too
eternal escarp
those have no correlation to her
they are draedons research on the sunken sea, not the former ocean that was the desert
tro
hard bronze
True
But it could also be in a mention
Or something
it doesnt have to be the entire focus of the schematic or the log
dense ferry
Something along the lines of
"Damn Calamitas made some very cool shit because she burned the ocean"
hard bronze
Or the witch's desecration of the ocean has made an impact on the life that was present
Idfk im not a calamity dev
dense ferry
Neither am I
hard bronze
Or a developer at all
eternal escarp
draedon really couldnt give the slightest of shits on anything else
fossil bronze
imo there should be a way to see the full lore in-game
eternal escarp
he isnt there for the drama
hard bronze
Yes he is
fossil bronze
desert scourge is the first boss in the game and its lore mentions scal destroying the sea
hard bronze
He says that in the fight between him and the exo mechs
eternal escarp
the new lore isnt really publicised because lmao update spoilers!
eternal escarp
we know what bosses are coming thats not what the "secret" is
eternal escarp
when i mean drama i mean yharim's whole shebang, more so the "so she did this because of hurdur bad auric guy"
he is there to research and work on his things (and get payed iirc
fossil bronze
he got payed?
i thought the lore just said yharim was like "hey bro you wanna come make me some armor for my space worm"
oh that makes sense
eternal escarp
"Your information is old. Very old. We live in warring times. If you desire something I can provide it. All I want are your services."
"If you can provide me with resources and a directive, I will create all you need."
And that was that. Yharim did not care for the story behind the ruined planet, and Draedon did not care for Yharim’s grim resolve, nor why he sought such armor. This interaction established the relationship the Tyrant would have with his smith until the day his kingdom fell.
yea h
(the only nowadays official lore is on the wiki until the full new lore doc is released iirc)
((and 80% of ingame things
hard bronze
we know what bosses are coming thats not what the "secret" is
Yharim?
eternal escarp
Yharim, Noxus and Xeroc
hard bronze
Didnt xeroc die tho
eternal escarp
no
and nor will you kill it yourself when he presumably gets added
byeah more so #lore-discussion topic then suggestion
hard bronze
Yeah
cobalt heath
Whats the topuc
hard bronze
What about telling the set bonus of an armor before actually going out of ur way to craft it all
dense ferry
Actually there could be New Bosses. I mean, the Yharim > Noxus > Xeroc stuff has been on for a ungodly long time, yet we got Old Duke
hard bronze
So u know what ur self getting into
dense ferry
But I don't expect that
hard bronze
Actually there could be New Bosses. I mean, the Yharim > Noxus > Xeroc stuff has...
Old duke goated tho
dense ferry
Considering we are getting a Biome Rework soon enough and most of the Biomes already have their Bosses
Unless there is a Boss planned for some sort of future event
The Yharim Army™️
hard bronze
Im noticing that all of the hm enemies get crack in post moonlord
hard bronze
Ex.
Old duke - duke
ravager(isnt post ml but still) - golem
exo mechs - mechs
dense ferry
Not likely
hard bronze
the only one that hasnt gotten a rework is lunatic cultist
or an upgrade
Oh yeah
And moonlord
Isnt an aew the final evolution of an eidolist tho
Good
I like the aew having a ton of mystery behind it
A lot of the post ml bosses are just the hm bosses but on crack tho
eternal escarp
if you dumb the bosses down, maybe
the only exception is infact OD
as it is indeed intended to look similiar
fossil bronze
i'd say some of them just take inspiration from other bosses
eternal escarp
some inspiration, maybe
byeah
dense ferry
But on so much crack that it's literally just something else
eternal escarp
Exo Mechs dont play like normal mechs at all, unlike OD which can be argued to be played half similiarly to DFish in some cases
eternal escarp
new CClone has a similiar phase plan but yeah the fights are still distinct enough id say
crimson fern
well, this is a new group of people, so im gonna present my dumb idea(s) again
dense ferry
Ok
crimson fern
imagine heart of the elements but its like men
eternal escarp
no
crimson fern
like what about the earth elemental and ice golem
dense ferry
No
crimson fern
;-;
dense ferry
Actually give me a second
crimson fern
wait what?
dense ferry
!wiki Hearts of the Elements
red stormBOT
https://calamitymod.wiki.gg/wiki/1.1.6.15
Not the correct result? Use !wiki page Hearts of the Elements for a direct link or !wiki search Hearts of the Elements for a list of all hits.
eternal escarp
adding earth elemental to the HotE is a dont
dense ferry
Hum
crimson fern
not that, i mean a new heart of the elments
a completely different item...
with new elementals
and they're all dudes
eternal escarp
making a male HotE isnt a dont since it isnt a common sugg
still doesnt mean its a good idea
dense ferry
!wiki Heart of the Elements
red stormBOT
dense ferry
Ok that's the one
crimson fern
i don't really know what purpose it serves, i kinda just want to wear it on vanity xd
dense ferry
Honestly I had this one idea of just making so Heart of the Elements buff Summon and Magic Damage, and the dude one could buff Melee and Rogue, but
Yeah, just a random idea
And yes, Rangers get fucked
Still, your sugg wouldn't make past it
crimson fern
also, my script talks about how the other relic accessories are kinda useless now 'cause of the new HotE crafting recipe
dense ferry
It's a Specific Item Sugg, after all
crimson fern
i think those could be another accessory...
what exactly does specific even mean?
is that specified in the doc?
crimson fern
it's not really that specific though?
i don't give it a name, detail the function, a very vague crafting recipe, and i don't know what it even looks like
dense ferry
You can suggest a completely unispecified item if you think that would be of any use, but
But by unispecified I mean
Add a Mage Weapon to Post Yharon
And then you need a REALLY good reason to add it
crimson fern
i think im gonna go edit my script... i still feel like posting it, though i doubt it'll go anywhere : D
eternal escarp
the idea from its core will definitely not pass
crimson fern
i just don't get why though ;-;
eternal escarp
as there really is 0 reasoning you can give it
dense ferry
Needless effort
The Devs don't want to spend time coding something just because someone said it's cool
dense ferry
Cya
crimson fern
ok
geez that took like 2 minutes
well, it was just editing
Make some more Hearts of the Elements-like accessories
Now that the relic stones can't be fused together, I often just find them taking up space, and not worth using in general. Many of accessories in the previous HotE crafting recipe are not useful because every slot can make the difference in harder difficulties. Perhaps the non-waifu summoning relic stones could be made into some sort of combined accessory. However, this doesn't entirely solve the problem since there are two elementals that never really go anywhere. The Earth Elemental and Ice Golem don't drop accessories that summon them, and I think they should. The Earth Elemental is already designed, and if the Sand Elemental gets two accessories, the Ice Golem should at least get one. Additionally, not everyone wants to look at waifus, including me.
Unless you're a summoner, the entire Heart of the Elements lineage is not very useful,
yeah, its a summoner accessory
crimson fern
good point, but it wasn't always
eternal escarp
Perhaps the non-waifu summoning relic stones could be made into some sort of combined accessory
considering how some of them fill specific niche (or specific classes in Chaos Stone's case) this wouldnt go well
eternal escarp
good point, but it wasn't always
it is now, so that point remains moot
Ice Golem isnt really an elemental afaik
hell i think Ice Elementals are a random enemy in the UG tundra
crimson fern
so then how come anahita is?
eternal escarp
because lore
fossil finch
golem's not an elemental and "elementals" are as weak and artificial as the tundra itself is, they're very much lesser compared to the ones that are part of HoTE
lore is funny
hard bronze
Ok but what about before you craft an armor it tells you the set bonus for that armor before u actually craft it, so that way, you know what ur getting urself into
muted vale
thats a good idea
just let each piece of armor list its set bonus
it wouldnt take much effort from the devs
just a tooltip edit
fossil finch
LET'S FUCKING GOOOOO TOOLTIPS X3
@cobalt pewter look your favorite thing
(It's not a good idea because now every armor piece has a fucking paragraph of effects)
unique vector
@vestal ibex we expect better of u being a patron tsk tsk
vestal ibex
corn
unique vector
(dont send meme suggestions please)
vestal ibex
<@!671826937617842204> we expect better of u being a patron tsk tsk
its a genuine suggestion :(
but ok
i will make a scientific explanation for why corn will benefit calamity
unique vector
if its genuine you really didnt give it any reason for me to believe its serious,,
gray nebula
yeah as i said, no one else but you is laughing rn
unique vector
can you please not waste our time
gray nebula
vestal ibex
<:peepobedcat:866392180473069598>
:<
unique vector
you can do your haha laughs without needing to make it a pointless suggestion post hahaha,,,
unique vector
ty i appreciate u
fossil bronze
specific item suggestion moment
gray nebula
What was it i ddidnt catch it fast enoug
fossil bronze
yes
worthy lintel
I'm more concerned by if its possible to make things bounce on liquids in this mess of a game
cobalt pewter
terraria death
ruby plover
well i mean there are weapons that have interactions with water...
mainly what i'm thinking of is burning sea
nimble berry
They should make it so that shrines are easier to find
ruby plover
iirc there are plans to change shrines, like how they work and stuff
nimble berry
iirc there are plans to change shrines, like how they work and stuff
coolio, cause trinket of chi is super good at the start but you never get it till like post ml
grim tusk
@fleet igloo i suggest you remove that last bit of your sugg not getting in due to vote count
Also it may still have a chance to get in
fleet igloo
That one is a pretty old sugg though
grim tusk
If its older than 14 days it wont be but aint its young enough to still have a chance iirc
fleet igloo
It's been 2 weeks I think
distant gyro
@frozen veldt just saw this but did you know that 1.5.1.1 reduced the cost of Shroomite Bars from 15 Glowing Mushrooms per bar to 5?
in regards to: #suggestions-voting message
no one seemed to talk about it
fossil finch
Wasn't documented either
hard bronze
i will make a scientific explanation for why corn will benefit calamity
Corn that gives u the ohio debuff which turns u into a skinny 14 year old whiteboy
dim osprey
So I had an idea for the aotc and galaxia rework
I love the new rework but some aspects of the previous swords get lost along the way
So my idea was to have a hot key added for galaxia that cycled through 2 new “passive” atunements that didn’t make it along with the other 2 we have already. So we have the healing one from the sanguine fury and the projectile blast one from sword smiths pride, but we’re missing the meat hook from lamentations of the chained. So we could have a meat hook type thing that spins around the player And for the mercurial tides one I think should get reworked completely but whatever. That would do basically the same thing with roughly the same chances
And obviously all of these could work with any of the 4 main atunements and have a chance to trigger them
I’m looking for feedback and all before I start making the suggestion
cobalt pewter
@gray nebula < dude makes it
gray nebula
I love the new rework but some aspects of the previous swords get lost along the...
intended
galaxia fades out the quirky wacky unique attunements in favor of something more like , well
i mean you dont even have to change biomes anymore
To prepare for the transition into aotc
cobalt pewter
I personally don't like how many of Galaxia is basically vored into AotC
but hey, I don't play melee
don't need to touch em
dim osprey
intended
That’s unfortunate cause this was only part one reworking galaxia to have the little passives still be choose able, but that makes enough sense
The second part was to give aotc 4 new combos which relate more to the 4 atunements of galaxia
They would still have the parry and all
The current combo would still exist as a sort of average or “all” atunement
For example the Phoenix pride combo would be more focused on the projectiles and the arcing swings going all the way behind the player
The Aries wrath combo would be more focused on the chain based extension not too sure how it could be a “combo” but I’ll think of something
The Polaris gaze combo could be more focused on quick stabs or dashing similar to the ghastly rapier atunement from the biome blade this one could also have a focus on releasing the weapons similarly to sanguines fury in the true biome blade
The andromedas strife combo could be more focused on charging the dashes and sending shockwaves with the charge
These may not be too great but it’s also 10:40 pm where I am so my brain is fried
More feedback is appreciated
hot zephyr
The second part was to give aotc 4 new combos which relate more to the 4 atuneme...
nooooo
unnecessary complication will just make the weapon feel worse
and also way worse to test 
we aren't going to rework a weapon literally less than a month after release especially when other things need it way more (and the fact that we're uh, working on 1.4 porting lol!)
if you're going to suggest big changes to that line i'd
- wait for the reworks to settle, give it a month or two
- you will need a substantial reason for these changes
gray nebula
The second part was to give aotc 4 new combos which relate more to the 4 atuneme...
,,, ;,,,;;
oomfie
😭
grim tusk
@hollow shell SIS spotted
hot zephyr
its like
kinda?
but definitely a suggestion that has been made a thousand times before
grim tusk
also reasoning is vague and invalid
hot zephyr
true!
hollow shell
byeah this is the one millionth iteration of this sugg anyhow
novel belfry
is there a reason why the devs aren't interested in implementing earth elemental accessory? aside from the horny
unique vector
we havent really had the time to look at miniboss related stuff
probably sometime later we'll consider something, but rn we arent really sure an earth ele summon accessory is the right move
crude geode
Wouldn’t adding an earth ele also kinda cramp the screen unless you removed like rare sand ele
novel belfry
why not just make earth ele armor instead
eternal escarp
there are a lot of armors early hm
enough ti not warrant any armor addition i think
cerulean trench
is there a reason why the devs aren't interested in implementing earth elemental...
replace brimstone with earth elemental
ee is based and grugpilled
because no tits
frozen hornet
ah yes fighting the earth elemental in the brimstone biome and the brimstone elemental in the underground 
hot zephyr
enough ti not warrant any armor addition i think <:HDFailure:512929640659288075>
considering there are currently armors that are underwhelming atm in cal and vanilla in early hm I think reworking those are higher in priority
cobalt pewter
ye
eternal escarp
yeye exactly
cobalt pewter
Earth Elemental is just vibin, they'll probably know what to do with it after the more important stuff in early HM gets addressed
warm jetty
Against the rules to suggest they re-add Armageddon?
tardy smelt
yeah
suggestions for re-adding removed content are a no
plus, Nycro's mod exists if you really wanna nohit
cobalt pewter
yes
warm jetty
Not that I can see.
frozen hornet
It's in the mod's config
tardy smelt
Unless it is a different item that does the same
nycro's mod adds a config which makes everything kill you instantly
golden tulip
ah
tardy smelt
essentially, what armageddon does
frozen hornet
Instant death or something like that
warm jetty
Do they drop the extra treasure bags though?
warm jetty
That's what I want Arma for
golden tulip
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
frozen hornet
Just cheat them in if you want 
cobalt pewter
p sure no
tardy smelt
Do they drop the extra treasure bags though?
nope
if you really wanna do armageddon farming
downgrade your mod
golden tulip
trolled
tardy smelt
or just... don't do armageddon farming because its no longer a part of this mod
small timber
@dusty path your suggestion is on the way, at least planned
dusty path
Oo, cool
small timber
I heard demonshade will be reworked into scal armor basically
dusty path
That's amazing
small timber
not sure if something else will use shadowspec, but basically scal will get its own armor
so ya no need to suggest it, since it will happen (anyway)
frail mantle
demonshade rework that'll make it scal armor instead of shadowspec armor is planned yes
coming whenever the devs feel like doing it™️
frozen hornet
There'll also be another post exo mechs armor (because gemtech is a dev armor 
) that focuses on survivability instead of damage like demonshade