instead of being able to click anywhere you now click on a block
#suggestions-discussion
small timber
they are more spawn animation not unique summon method
golden tulip
polter is unique
small timber
polter kinda, since it has both one click and unique method
golden tulip
yeah but that is exactly like vanilla
vanilla also has item summons but just for support
small timber
(also probably before this go too far away, spawn animation/method suggestion are don't so probably stop at some point because this can go very off-topic)
golden tulip
nearly all vanilla bosses can be summoned in a unique way while also having a summoning item for support (like poltro)
ye
frozen hornet
Perfs/hive too
frozen hornet
I find those two to be a better version of plant's spawn method
At least you can just wait in your arena till one spawns
unique vector
wouldnt rlly count duke and polter
golden tulip
why not
unique vector
polter’s 100 enemy killed thing is an outdated mechanic (and he still has a basic spawn item anyway)
duke’s spawn mechanic is the same thing as normal duke
and the event spawn version is like kinda cool but betsy loment
frozen hornet
duke’s spawn mechanic is the same thing as normal duke
Except you can't summon two with multiple lines 
eternal escarp
Leviathan is the only fully unique summon method iirc
golden tulip
fair
golden tulip
Leviathan is the only fully unique summon method iirc
oh true so perf/hive, poltro, draedon, OD, levi
unique vector
levi perfs and draedon yeah
eternal escarp
AEW, ig?
golden tulip
i suppose
eternal escarp
funny chaos state fucker
unique vector
(we dont talk about aew)
unique vector
i personally would love if we could nake every boss more unique than just “craft spawn item click”
eternal escarp
perfs / hvm have a summon only after defeat so yeah
unique vector
but yk
golden tulip
why are you guys not counting poltro and OD
unique vector
ol terraria veterans be like “how dare u make me think more than 5 seconds to summon this boss”
bc polter sucks
eternal escarp
because no one summons polter via the funny method
unique vector
polter’s enemy method is more of a nuisance than anything
golden tulip
nearly always the first time i encounter polter is because im farming the summon item lo
frozen hornet
Truly a forgotten apex
eternal escarp
wdym he has some good weapons
golden tulip
i personally would love if we could nake every boss more unique than just “craft...
do you think such a suggestion would get in?
eternal escarp
Tumbleweed is decent, Sandstorm is decent
besides he is fightable before LnA and Aureus and is objectively easier
so lmao
unique vector
do you think such a suggestion would get in?
too vague of a suggestion but theres a chance yeah
small timber
petition for DoG summon to be dropped uniquely through a challenge involving fighting all 3 sentinels and skip DoG sentinel phase
unique vector
die
golden tulip
thats just pillars reformed
eternal escarp
tbh why is cv a sentinel even its litterally just an anomaly of time and space
lore.,.,.,
small timber
for ultimate hardcore gameplay make their solo fight weaker while the back to back fight their current full version of strength
and then sentinels will be harder than DoG himself
bright crag
Make DoG spawn naturally if you have the (then added) trophy-like items of all three Sentinels in your inventory
unique vector
die pt. 2
eternal escarp
byeah unique DoG summon method could be uhhhh making something with the sentinel drops to open up a dog portal crcrcrcrcrcrc
bright crag
It would make more sense
DoG is targeting you for killing his Sentinels
golden tulip
make dog spawn immediately after killing his last sentinel
small timber
ya, considering DoG now has a weird "only one time sentinel phase" thing
golden tulip
tp to surface like br
bright crag
Cosmic Worm, or a Dimensional Portal Activator, would drop upon reaching DoG p2
For easy re-summons
bright crag
why :c
golden tulip
i dont think she likes the suggestion guys
unique vector
this is NOT unique
this is just making u take extra steps with glorified summon items
grr
golden tulip
ye
small timber
fine spawn a luminite planetoid-like structure in the sky after providence is defeated that contain altar to summon DoG
fossil finch
yall comically boring
small timber
(I mean just for reference a structure)
eternal escarp
just make DoG spawn randomly like mech bosses to be a true pest and a pain in the ass like he should be.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.
golden tulip
dog pulls you into his pocket dimension and youre stuck there till you kill him :)
eternal escarp
ender try not to be passive aggressive challenge (impossible
bright crag
this is NOT unique
How would you suggest we spawn DoG? :p
fossil finch
Anyways just make a cosmic portal structure you can spawn dog from after sentinels are down or whatever
He leaves it open when he spawns and after you kill him it's open forever welcome to distortion (this is the exact same idea you guys had but developed properly
unique vector
i cant suggest for that would leak dev plans ™️
bright crag
Hmm
golden tulip
didnt fabsol say he wanted to involve subworlds with dog's pocket dimension a long time ago?
unique vector
but the fact rhat a distortion subworld is public knowledge and this is the best yall can come up with is zzzz
eternal escarp
wasnt it for cosmilite though...
unique vector
the world may never know
unique vector
ill stab you
fossil finch
distortion pre dog sounds funny but idk I'm not a dev
small timber
I mean the last time subworld is mentioned it was something along the line of "it is barely starting to work"
golden tulip
i wonder if tmod 1.4 has any funnies that would help mod developers do more epic stuff
fossil finch
it does
eternal escarp
subworlds are massively buggy rn iirc so i assume its saved for TMod 1.4
it does yeah
fossil finch
Sublib 1.4 is also gonna be a goat
golden tulip
poggers
fossil finch
Multiprocessing in real (people can be on different worlds
eternal escarp
TMod 1.4 taking long because it fixes a lot of issues not because its hard to port 
golden tulip
yea i meant something different but after trying to answer my own question it sounds dumb
eternal escarp
fair
cobalt heath
i remember when xp said that the bad suggs are coming on the weekend
he was correct
crude geode
sees 2 bad suggs
bruh weekends bad 
cobalt heath
cursed you get sarcasm do you?
yeah the joke wasnt funny but like it was still an overexaturated sarcasm
eternal escarp
to be fair there was nothing in your message to denote sarcasm
this is text speech after all 
crude geode
indeed
cobalt heath
i mean fair enough
novel belfry
Until the Legendary Item's new acquirement method is finalized, revert their current acquirement method back to Malice Mode
unique vector
no
will never be approved
if we wanted to keep them to malice mode we would have left the ones we didnt finish making unique obtainment methods for as is
novel belfry
and why not?
unique vector
because we dont want them associated with malice mode at all
its propogating a very unhealthy mindset of "oh my god i have to do malice for X item" or "malice mode is useless without unique items"
& we're gonna change malice mode at some point anyway 
novel belfry
just delete malice
novel belfry
twas a joke
i dont actually want malice gone
i just vastly prefer it when challenge items were a thing
unique vector
i personally think you should be rewarded for doing something unique or cool
instead of forcing yourself into an arbitrarily balanced/unfair mode
frail mantle
malice was an attempt to fix rivs and leggies being stupid to obtain but people didn't really vibe with it so they're doing something better
novel belfry
its just that now its back to random drops, exactly what malice tried to move calamity away from
frail mantle
temporary fix
also the drop chance of the items that got returned to random drops are a lot higher than before
novel belfry
i'd rather fight a malice mode profaned guardian than god knows how many profaned nuggets
unique vector
im not a fan of the random drops either but eh
cobalt pewter
i personally think you should be rewarded for doing something unique or cool
tbf that's what I suggested initially too, idk how and when and why it mutated into malice
(I indirectly helped making malice happen)
unique vector
boss related challenges arent the same as buffing all boss AI and droping them that way
like, boosting a boss's stats isnt as unique as say "kill AS pre-HM" or something
cobalt pewter
byeah, I'll stop the malice hate for today (because I've had way too much of it the last few days and I don't want to bother atm, I have a lot of things to catch up)
novel belfry
malice shouldn't have been "Superboost the stats and speed of bosses, and maybe sprinkle in some change", but that's just me
fossil finch
almost like it's not just you as continuously expressed by everyone including its creator
unique vector
malice shouldn't have been "Superboost the stats and speed of bosses, and maybe ...
have you heard of this niche thing called "Master Mode"
surreal geode
master mode wasn't received particularly well
keen zealot
that's understating it too
it was mentioned as being just stat bloat before it launched and there was STILL massive backlash when it released
I and many others believe it has no reason to exist as a separate mode if it is just going to be increased stats and nothing else
the same goes for malice mode
surreal geode
Yeah I suppose there's no point sugarcoating it, it shouldn't be surprising that malice was received similarly
indeed
keen zealot
though I personally believe that For The Worthy seed would have received worse backlash if it were released as master mode
mostly because the stat bloat is more intense there
keen zealot
it did
but many are extremely dubious and not neccesary
there is a REASON why they removed prime cannon tile damage after they added it the first time in 1.1, and FTW perfectly showcases that reason
surreal geode
lmao true
lucid flare
malice shouldn't have been "Superboost the stats and speed of bosses, and maybe ...
malice didn't even boost stats wharg el hell
novel belfry
well...
how bout 35% something more damage and boss and every projectile go even faster?
and that's it (aside from a few other boss-specific changes that only exacerbate the former issues)
drifting osprey
there is a REASON why they removed prime cannon tile damage after they added it ...
1.1 clowns in bloodmoon
i lost so many bases that way
small timber
Tbh I dont even mind some of the malice bosses, the expectation was always for people who think death mode is too easy and have no expectation of it being balanced (at least for me)
I like some of the fights like twins, pbg, (pre 1.5.1) dog, even yharon to some extent
It is just it also have pure "tf is this" fight like astrum aureus and profaned guardian that obviously should not exist
I just think the "this is a boss refight mode but you can do it on tier" added many unnecessary inherent toxicity, rather than just say "yo we overbuffed these bosses in this mode good luck haha"
hot zephyr
does it really matter where malice is
to me this just kinda seems like pointless obstruction
cobalt pewter
what matters is the banishment of malice tbh ngl iirc imo
small timber
now that it probably will keep existing I am trying to suggest ways for it to be better perceived
small timber
if you keep malice at demon altar most player will not even know it exist, it will be only seek out by people who deliberately want to do malice
hot zephyr
to me this just kinda seems like pointless obstruction
.
it'll be better received when we do more with the mode
or if we remove it, dunno. don't really have any stake in the malice discourse
small timber
one requires significant dev input and extremely high effort that (we) don't even know if will happen anytime soon
the other is just to remove an item from the starter bag
I think I already made the comparison, the current situation is as if in difficulty selection below Master Mode it says "For the Worthy" as selectable difficulty, and trust it will likely be flamed much more than Master Mode
That is basically what is happening with Malice right now, because you put it together with Revengeance and Death activable item it is implied that it is the "highest default difficulty"
The suggestion is to make it much more optional
crude geode
It’s still just as optional lol
small timber
it is less about how optional it actually is, it is about how optional the players feel it actually is
unique vector
hm
kinda like weird suggestion
all i see this doing is making it arbitrarily harder to initially obtain its summoning item
thats like putting your "optional" mode in some other game into a separate menu window because its optional
also why deathmode and the like were moved to the starter bag
small timber
perception is a weird thing, when you move it out of the way people simply care about it less
considering most people do not like malice in its current stat I think it is a rather easy solution (for now), to at the very least make it feel less forced (despite it being as optional)
unique vector
you're making a change that, yeah, psychologically would make it "more optional"
but thats an extremely band-aid solution that i think still just adds more inconvenience just because you want less people to see it
it also would look like we're just tossing something to the side to rot bc we dont like it lmao
small timber
you can argue that, but currently the same people who don't want to see it is the same people who will likely never play malice and simply complain about it
unique vector
if it means anything i'd upvote a suggestion to remove malicemode before making it a demon altar craftable
unique vector
you can argue that, but currently the same people who don't want to see it is th...
they complain about it because of its existence as a whole
moving it to where it wont spawn in their inventory doesnt do jack shit
im sure they trash the item regardless anyway
small timber
if you argue in that way then I will just delete the suggestion for now, since perception is extremely subjective that you can argue in both ways
I feel like comparing it to FTW is the closest comparison to be made, and in that case most people simply don't know FTW even exist (or even will try it out other than just Youtubing it) which is why it is more well received despite it being much more obnoxious than Master Mode
crude geode
It’a better received cuz it has unique changes to both the world and bosses
Not cuz it’s out of the way more
small timber
malice unironically have some unique AI change on some bosses, , in other case sometimes just increasing the speed completely change the dynamic of the fight
but ya it might also be just me being more acceptable to malice, since I have no expectation of it being balanced to begin with
(except astrum aureus, profaned guardian and BoC, ya those can go)
novel belfry
(except astrum aureus, profaned guardian and BoC, ya those can go)
Agreed with Aureus, that shit can go back to draedon’s workshop and get scrapped
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keen zealot
perception is a weird thing, when you move it out of the way people simply care ...
this would have worked... if it were that way from the start
you can't really "do over" such a major launch like that
cobalt pewter
~~or if we remove it, dunno. don't really have any stake in the malice discourse...
personally, removing malice would save a lot on potential resources
golden tulip
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[**add ...
this actually got through
small timber
I mean it is not that surprising
sniper scope have no visual component so the disable visual actually work
cobalt pewter
yeah for accs that doesn't have visual sprite in the first place, visibility toggle is useless
small timber
@dense ferry what are you using trophy for? since it (by vanilla purpose) is basically obtained as a symbol of you mastering a boss (or in a non-glorified word, after you fight a boss a lot)
so it inherently do not make sense that you always get trophy on first kill, unless there is a specific need for trophy that it brings some benefit to the player for dropping on the first kill or not
or you can refer to vanilla master mode which has "relic" on first kill, but that is more the reward of master mode than anything else
unless you make your suggestion based on something like "trophy always drop on first kill for Death Mode" or something like that
golden tulip
no cool rare drop is cool
fleet igloo
"No, cool rare drop is cool" or "no cool rare drop, is cool"
swift sinew
With the ideas of trophy’s, I believe malice mode should be able fo drop them once you deafest then, however I don’t believe adding this feature to the other difficulties is good.
Terraria, involves grinding this is a fact, what’s the point in having a trophy you could have got without actually putting the effort in, killing it once is a good thing, but I generally believe you should keep the same skill.
So maybe just make malice mode drop it on kill, because at the moment there really isn’t any benefit to malice mode, well other than increased difficulty
eternal escarp
sniper scope have no visual component so the disable visual actually work
people really just malded for litterally 2% crit chance
darn
small timber
for me personally it is more like upgrading an accessory but have unexpected downside that I must remake the accessory
not necessary the 2% crit part tbh
since on paper it is pure benefit (you use right click you use the effect), until you use it with legendary weapon and the scope effect completely throw you off
frozen hornet
<@!498251962844839956> what are you using trophy for? since it (by vanilla purpo...
They made the sugg because they killed DS like 20 times and got no trophy
golden tulip
lmao
frozen hornet
Either that's horrible horrible RNG or something's bugged
cobalt heath
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oh no
what have they done
frozen hornet
Is it really that bad 
I doubt it would take more than half an hour to implement that
cobalt heath
they literally are removing the main part off scope and making it optional
and yeah its a simple code id imagine but still
frozen hornet
I still don't see what's wrong with it
Not like it affects people who use it
if you like it, turn it on, if you don't, turn it off
cobalt heath
the convo when the sug came out first explained why it is considered bad
frozen hornet
Why is it bad
cobalt heath
but basicly making everything a stat stick isnt good when the main function off an item is made optional
fleet igloo
Are there plans for Deus death animation
It feels a bit weird that on Rev- one worm dies then the other one just explodes at the same time instead of, say, retreating to the sky
cobalt heath
i would like a last sunder phase were the other worm goes berserk for few seconds before they both explode
like sions passive from league of legends
cobalt heath
would that be considered a too big off a change to be sugged actually
cobalt heath
cause im keen to sugg that it would be a cool idea
but my idea would basicly give deus a new phase
fleet igloo
You can try
cobalt heath
eh if it get flagged idc
ruby plover
i think boss change suggestions hardly go through, since Fab makes almost all the decisions regarding bosses
frozen hornet
i would like a last sunder phase were the other worm goes berserk for few second...
so technically this is already in the mod
cobalt pewter
what have they done
this sounds like overreaction
it's not the end of the world whether that sugg is approved or rejected
the fuck kinda beef they have over this sugg lmao
cobalt heath
for fuck sake this is basicly what my idea is about but just made longer
frozen hornet
cobalt heath
Give Deus a final stand phase
Astrum Deu:ses 2nd phase splits deus into 2 worms. In order to win, you only have to kill one. This makes an odd situation, were you don't have to do a single point off damage to the other worm, and it still dies. On ending the fight the other one just explodes.
This in my eyes has a room to be made into a new death subface, were the other not dead worm goes berserk for a few seconds before dying. It could be like Sions passive from league of legends, were the dying worm can't shoot but just ram you w amplified speed. This could take like 5 seconds, after wich the worm dies and drops the loot bag.
Reasoning is that now the other worm just dying is weird, cause the fight makes the worms not connected in the slighest. Thus the other worm has no reason to die, it could just keep fighting. They don't share a health bar, don't do pair attacks, just are two bosses off their own. (And the berserk phase would be cool cmon)
this is my idea written
frozen hornet
It's already known that fab did some changes to death before the update
Should've checked first smh ...
cobalt heath
well atleast i didn't put it to posting
fleet igloo
Can I suggest a death animation if it's just for one boss
cobalt heath
you can certainly try atleast
cobalt pewter
depends on which boss
fleet igloo
Does it still count as "frequently suggested"
It's for Deus, so that the other worm on Rev- doesn't spontaneously explode
cobalt heath
just adding the berserk phase to all difficulties
frail mantle
a deus death animation is planned iirc
probably gonna arrive along with the resprite
fleet igloo
Hmm alright
golden tulip
which is in like 3 years
ruby plover
@dull spear check the pins, re-adding past content is a "don't" in terms of suggestions. iirc, adding back the lorde is a specific thing that you shouldn't suggest
frozen hornet
lorde sugg 
golden tulip
john wulfrum
lucid flare
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easy w
stiff wren
lorde sugg combined with rock sugg
Best suggestion ever
thorny sapphire
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lets gooooo
cobalt heath
im inclined to make a sugg where i say using the rock summons lorde
stiff wren
Eventually someone is going to make a suggestion that breaks every single rule
small timber
@keen valley #bugs-read-pins , also known bug
keen valley
byeah it's a known issue that's getting fixed
thank god
lucid flare
🆑itches
yeha the exo mexhs are a prime example
artemis&apollo and ares are always hovering directly proportional to one player
lucid flare
mass produced exo mechs 
fleet igloo
Readd Braelor and Statis as bosses.
Health: Braelor 430000 Statis 350000
Damage: Braelor 250 Statis 295
Summoned with Soul Lantern, crafted with 100 of each hardmode soul
Fought just after Providence, and all other bosses cannot be fought until they have been defeated.
Braelor would charge at you and shoot soil blasts, and Statis would teleport around you and stab for massive damage as well as stop time and spam knifes (Sakuya reference).
Drops legendary weapon Hero's Last Hour and debris bars, which can be crafted into Braelor's Gauntlets (melee) or Statis's Knife (throwing, should be connected to rogue) with shadowspec bars and the rock as well as Soul Bombs, which deal (number of bosses defeated)^9 damage, plus Devourer's Will, a consumable which adds an 8th accessory slot and gives the ability to toggle deathmode changes besides boss AI changes.
If beaten with Crystyl Crusher, they drop Bedrock Blade, which inverts the right and left click functions of the pickaxe if favourited in the inventory. If entering a world without Bedrock Blade, all grounded bosses gain infinite jump height to stop players from cheesing them. By the way, Crystyl Crusher needs a resprite, the sprite looks mildly bad. All pickaxes should also deal rogue damage since they feel more like rogue weapons. This would also make pickaxe-only runs more tolerable.
After Braelor and Statis have been defeated, frames/mannequins/weapon stands can now display modded items. The bug causing this would have to be fixed, of course.
A buffed version of them spawns before the Yharim fight when it's added, and Yharim spawns in after they're defeated.
There, I think I've managed to break every rule under the mod suggestions section
small timber
oh god you go through all the way to violate all don't dont you
robust lava
inverting Crystyl Crusher left and right click
ok now you've gone too far
small timber
ctrl+F no LORDE I am disappointed
fleet igloo
LORDE technically falls under "readd scrapped content"
small timber
disappointed nontheless
gray nebula
What if removed the yoyos instead Huh
small timber
soon™
cobalt pewter
is scal arena enrage even permanent?
small timber
as long as you are out of the arena
but you have to wait 10 (or more likely 15 if you are using normality relocator as that have higher chance to misclick) and stay alive for 15 seconds against enraged scal
eternal escarp
@small timber just thingies, Adamantite is kinda eh since its bugged, not sure if the bug it has affects the killtimes but keep it in mind i think
if it does, note it in the sugg me thinks
small timber
<@!290083110312214528> just thingies, Adamantite is kinda eh since its bugged, n...
sorry for late reply, can you stat the bug?
if it is defensive it should not matter, the crit part I think is working as intended
because to my knowledge both seem to work, unless you mean armor base stat
I tested it with stat meter, unless the bug also lie to stat meter it should at the very least, the offensive part be working (unless it is the melee/MS speed part)
eternal escarp
its something to do with getting more stats then intended
small timber
oh then probably the DR part
eternal escarp
im not sure what is affected in Adamantite though, so thats what i mean
small timber
I will get a clean character to check the stat
unique vector
@split lava dont think it's likely we'll make it toggle-able
we rebalanced every vanilla and calamity resource-collecting tool to progressively scale through each tier consistently
making it toggleable would mean needing to find each of those individual changes and reverting them in a toggle config
split lava
Just feels weird to me I guess, but I'll see how it goes moving forward.
unique vector
yeye
split lava
making it toggleable would mean needing to find each of those individual changes...
Oh jeez, that sounds nightmarish
small timber
its something to do with getting more stats then intended
I think it is the half DR to crit part, weirdly enough on my clean character it didnt work, but on my yoyo test character it do work
unique vector
im not gonna remoove your sugg but just letting you know thats how it is
small timber
because I remember checking for it to work
unique vector
coincidentally we talked abt making it a config a few days ago lol
split lava
tbh the pick speed isn't even the main thing for me, it's the movespeed/tile placement
small timber
MS maybe, why are you complain about tile speed?
split lava
It just feels weird to be zooming around with no accessories or anything
Why do people keep saying 'complain'
I didn't say it was bad, I said it felt weird to me.
I like having to hunt for the Gizmo pack to start placing faster. shrug
small timber
well most of the case similar suggestion was about complaining of it (somehow), I think the tile placement one should be passable just because the base tile speed is way too slow
split lava
It's fine to feel that way, but just making it optional isn't the same as saying I want it removed
I get it that other people want it, and that's fine
I never said it was a bad thing to have
small timber
movement speed one I kinda can understand "feeling weird", but I think mining speed one is fine too, just assume it is calamity QoL to make you mine faster
eternal escarp
Movement Speed toggle will never happen because the game is balanced around it now
small timber
because the item you get that let you move fast (boots, gizmo pack, mining speed) DO still make you pick/move/place faster, just your base speed is faster
cobalt pewter
pick and placement speed are fine to be toggled tbh
small timber
pick is probably too high effort (due to how calamity implemented it), they increased the speed of each individual pickaxe
cobalt pewter
movement speed as blast said is pretty much impossible because it has a big hand on cal balancing now
cobalt pewter
pick is probably too high effort (due to how calamity implemented it), they incr...
hmm, that is fair
small timber
tbh is the base speed even that affecting? since the "removed MS cap" part is more important than the regular base MS boost the game give you at the start
small timber
<@!290083110312214528> just thingies, Adamantite is kinda eh since its bugged, n...
this sound super strange but having endurance potion effect make the adamantite crit "unbugged", coincidentally I was using it after 1st mech so it was working
small timber
and any other damage reduction effect do not work, only base vanilla endurance potion
titan scale yharim stim etc all dont work
dense ferry
<@!498251962844839956> what are you using trophy for? since it (by vanilla purpo...
Or you can get it on your first try
The trophies are just Vanity, really
Tho, yeah, I am making that suggestion specially because I killed Desert Scourge like, 40 times before I got the trophy
small timber
ya it is vanity which makes it hard to find a reason to make it guaranteed, because there are many thing chance based
most notably all boss drop (like ML weapon drops) and the (no longer legendary/challenge drop), all have 10% which you can argue it is QoL to make them 100% drop chance
especially with a vanity that somewhat signifies "mastery of a boss" I think it will be much more fitting to have it drop at 100% on higher difficulty (either Death or Malice, since Revengeance already have Adrenaline and Rage) will be more fitting, than just make it 100% on all modes
novel belfry
increasing the chances of the boss vanity as the mode difficulty increases? hell yeah
dense ferry
If it were for a difficulty, Death for sure. Malice is just 0% worth it
small timber
ya Malice is whatever, I think Death can fit
dense ferry
It's easier to just grind the Boss than killing it on Malice
SPECIALLY for Exo Mechs and SCal
small timber
saying "Make Bosses Have 100% Chance to Drop Trophies In Death Mode", something along the line
ya, for those you cant even outgear them until shadowspec weapon (especially scal that go invincible all the time)
@untold bay furniture stuff probably go to calamity art server will be faster
eternal escarp
not really even
either your sprite it yourself or hope someone would do it for you
small timber
(although I doubt they will add sofa since I dont think there is other sofa, and there is already chair)
go to calamity art just to get denied there
eternal escarp
besides that is not how you word a sugg
untold bay
(although I doubt they will add sofa since I dont think there is other sofa, and...
You underestimate my determination when it comes to couches, good sir
eternal escarp
also????????
small timber
wait there is actually sofa in game
untold bay
That’s a bench
dense ferry
Acidwood Sofa
eternal escarp
its litterally the same mechanically
a chair and a sit are both the same just named differently
golden tulip
does the Knight sit on a sofa, blast?
eternal escarp
nutella i will kill you
small timber
and somehow every single other major material have sofa so I cant even argue against it
untold bay
Sofa gang rise up
golden tulip
unborn siren
oh
unborn siren
I forgot that those gaps were fine
small timber
ya it seem to be the case
using profaned as example, bench seems to basically be sofa
small timber
(except without the cushion)
eternal escarp
(not seems they are litterally the same )
golden tulip
was that added in 1.5.2?
untold bay
A profaned bench would probably be pretty uncomfortable
eternal escarp
yeah Exo furniture was added along with Acidwood
golden tulip
oh wow
eternal escarp
(both were submitted as full sprite sheets so they got added)
small timber
ya, their approach seem to be bench=sofa
golden tulip
too bad noone builds at the last boss
small timber
so ya, technically acid wood sofa already exist
stable musk
Acidwood sofa.
golden tulip
who doesnt like sitting on acid wood
small timber
(because it is rotten wood?)
golden tulip
ok then why isnt it called corroded wood 5head
small timber
because how will corroded wood furniture sounds like? it is bad marketing
golden tulip
i wouldnt buy acid wood either lmao
small timber
acidwood can sound like some type of random fancy wood, while corroded wood have 0% chance to be decent
also abit going off topic about how to sell acidwood better
golden tulip
this is very relevant
gray nebula
forgor suggestin
crude geode
This just reminds me of all the suggestions about making it so you can craft melee/rogue weapons into the other damage type
novel belfry
see your hpbar and mana bar...
probably was referring to the cal upgrades
eternal escarp
so am i
small timber
The hp and mana bar actually dont change according to the fruit you ate, it change according to how many you ate
Eg if you eat elderberry first before others your hp bar will turn orange instead of blue
eternal escarp
oh yeah i forgot about that
but we can apply the same thing for Demon Hearts and Celestial Onion
...to a small extent that is
crude geode
Much smaller extent
Comparing it to rogue/melee weapons back when they existed is a better comparison
novel belfry
This just reminds me of all the suggestions about making it so you can craft mel...
oh i remember those accursed days
graceful pier
Eg if you eat elderberry first before others your hp bar will turn orange instea...
I thought you had to eat in order?
ruby plover
no, only rule with eating in order is you have to have max life fruit to eat any of them
graceful pier
Oh right I didn’t know that
ashen warren
pretty sure that is like, not doable as it would just lose the effect upon being reforged, and adding 5 different tracers is why
crude geode
movement speed buffs are like. half of the reason why wings are better now.
vapid mango
they're the same tracers but like with different effects like how biome blade has different attunements
gray nebula
also youd need to detect which one was crafted
vapid mango
ok i didnt think about that
i just thought about the idea and not about how you would execute it
ashen warren
ye
its not realistically doable
ifyou think tracers arent worth using at all suggest a different way to make them viable
vapid mango
i couldn't think of anything else
i mean like an activated ability would be cool but what would it even do
ashen warren
why do wings need that
vapid mango
to make them more viable as you just said
theres like no reason to use tracers over wings and i wish there was
crude geode
p sure harmie meant activated ability for tracers not wings
vapid mango
oh ok
ashen warren
and wings dont need activated abilitys really
honestly tracer line doesnt even need to exist
vapid mango
i still like it more for normal pts honestly
ashen warren
theres only 3 of them and they are just overshadowed by wings + treads
vapid mango
being able to run fast on the ground is cool
crude geode
it was more of a noticeable difference back when wings didn't have insane horizontal mobility
fossil bronze
tbh i haven't noticed tracers being particularly weak
maybe it's just because i haven't used wings at those tiers, but they've worked fine for me
grim tusk
maybe just giving tracers the rocket boot's extra flight back? or some slight flighttime buffs?
but yea Tracers are no slouches
grim tusk
theres only 3 of them and they are just overshadowed by wings + treads
who tf uses treads post-Providence?
grim tusk
Elysian wings supremacy
fossil bronze
i'd always rather have the accessory slot freed up than the flight bonuses from wings
there's only like one situation i can think of where i actually need the extra flight time
tardy geyser
buff tracers horizontal flight speed maybe? so tracers always have better horizontal speed while wings are better vertically?
grim tusk
i'd always rather have the accessory slot freed up than the flight bonuses from ...
and thats the reason why tracers arent as strong anymore
fossil finch
🤨
lucid flare
who tf uses treads post-Providence?
angel threads??? za Hell?
ashen warren
nono, angel treads
i use em because i like the wing flight speed n time but also the running speed
and its not like one less damage/defensive accessory makes a whole world of difference
small timber
The only tracer that is half decent is celestial, because in chaotic fight like exo sometimes the i-frame can save you (and you dont really need full flight time of drew wing with draconic elixir)
ashen warren
intentional spelling mistake
nice save...
small timber
Other tracer especially elysian just have way too little flight time for their tier, like HM level kind of flight time
The only realistic way to buff tracer I can think of is to give tracer wings hover (from an old suggestion), to emphasize their superior horizontal speed in both air and ground, with the trade off being their shit flight time
Since there is like no hover wing post-ML if I remember, or at least not the main wings
ruby plover
Auric Tesla has a “hover”, but you gotta run out of flight time to use it…
digital saddle
(defiled gamers malding)
unborn siren
Spider is really good aside from the low defense
small timber
This one
unborn siren
if anything needs love it’s the forbidden armor summoner + mage set
novel belfry
and really any cross-class sets
they deserve more respect from the devs
and i dont mean the all-class ones
small timber
Frost is getting buffed in 1.4 (soon™️) but ya forbidden as mostly forgotten
digital saddle
small timber
Although calamity have to buff both more with new tier3 armor
digital saddle
heres a table comparing it to other armors at similar points in progression
for context
spider is decent btw
just a bit boring
unborn siren
yeah it could use a bit of speed or a special effect, but it’s fine
the offensive boosts are really good
digital saddle
theres just an issue of vanilla summoner armors being incredibly boring
unborn siren
and anyone who wants defense should stop playing summoner
unborn siren
upside: Everything around you dies very fast
Downside: You die in 2 hits
digital saddle
thats at least just partially because hydrothermic's minion is extremely bad
unborn siren
yeah Hydrothermic summoner set kinda sucks
digital saddle
valhalla knight is only better for degenerate spikecrag abuse
it is insanely bulky though
like, more than more than beetle scale
unborn siren
yeah Hydrothermic summoner set kinda sucks
Hydrothermic is either incredible or useless depending on class
it’s great for Ranger, Mage, and Rogue
lucid flare
thats at least just partially because hydrothermic's minion is extremely bad
most armor set minions suck because they just hang out above the player
at least from my perspective but i may be wrong
unborn siren
it’s great for Ranger, Mage, and Rogue
but gets outclassed by other armors for Melee and Summoner
digital saddle
aerospec minion gud
daedalus crystal is pretty decent
silva is good
demonshade minion is perhaps good but everything dies too fast for me to know
lucid flare
aerospec valkyrie my beloved❕
unborn siren
Plaguebringer minion would be good if not for spooky armor giving way too much damage
lucid flare
i miss the valkyrie it actually moved around & shit crazy how it be sometimes
unborn siren
extremely powerful vs skelly
you should have Bee armor by skeleton
lucid flare
wharg?
unique vector
dude can we replace all of the weird calamity subredditors with stat frog users
plsplspls
i would read every single post i swear
digital saddle
unique vector
YEAHHHHHHHH TAHTS THE STUFF
digital saddle
summoner has one of the better aerospec sets
lucid flare
wjat is a "stat frog "
unborn siren
summoner has one of the better aerospec sets
2 minion slots from bee tho
unique vector
i challenge u to post this sort of analyzation on the subreddit
make ppl think and shit
lesgo
digital saddle
wdym
unique vector
wjat is a "stat frog "
stat frog is a term usually for redditors, basically means ppl who do hyper analysis of statistics related to their subreddit
unique vector
wdym
(i want to see more thoughtful posts on the subreddit basically)
or even in cmt
i love this sort of conversations
lucid flare
calamity mod talk will never be good unfortunately
digital saddle
2 minion slots from bee tho
the valkyrie minion is basically its own minion slot tho and its pretty good
lucid flare
they should make more minions like that
digital saddle
bee is comparable but aerospec is just around as strong and i find it pretty fun to use
tarragon minion is meme
digital saddle
"you deal low damage to enemies extremely nearby you every second or so"
uelibloom is such a cool concept i feel like theres gotta be something cooler than that
digital saddle
its not great for dog unfortunately
lucid flare
seems like the devs are more focused on making shit cooler rather than adding new stuff for the while
at least from what i heard from them lmoa
digital saddle
the issue is
you have to make it so the minions can work with auric tesla
without creating an ungodly amount of visual clutter
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1tBABlo6MGM1ppV1CMSf9g7v2nIt0lLtbLrojILpgTrU/edit?usp=sharing
This is that armor spreadsheet btw for anyone interested
unique vector
calamity mod talk will never be good unfortunately
suggs disc is the hideout for the last few sane cmt users
lucid flare
just don't put in the 8 minions from the sets that auric Tesla is made from and instead just create a new one (swag)
lucid flare
aural tesla fucking uhhhhhhh
mini dragon
because yharon bar
digital saddle
https://i.imgur.com/xUYRTpz.png the minion can look like this
cobalt pewter
chikin mcnuggies
cobalt pewter
dude can we replace all of the weird calamity subredditors with stat frog users
calamity subreddit's average intelligence doesn't allow for stat frogs
unique vector
:(
cobalt pewter
I should make these kinda tables with stealth rogue later when I finally got my pc
(I think my online endeavors rely a lot on this new pc)
lucid flare
<https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1tBABlo6MGM1ppV1CMSf9g7v2nIt0lLtbLrojILp...
me on my way to make a suggestion regarding the color choice for each class
anyway uh im here to
(color coding rant)
because you uh,like, uh! you see the ranger! section is green like the
like the vortex fragment and the other ones are like, you know, like, you know how the
ruby plover
ive been thinking about making a suggestion about the bloodflare, tarragon, and silva set bonus minions, cos they are either super inconsistent or never hit at all except in specific circumstances
tbf i think the bloodflare bombs are pretty good and diversify themselves from other minions in a hard hitting, but very slow, way, and they don't have much clutter, but silva crystal requires enemies to stay in one spot after it targets it because of the prolonged blast, and the tarragon life aura hardly does anything + it's so hard to tell it's actually there at all, doing anything, unlike any other summon. also, a separate thing, but the tarragon aura in lower light settings make basically the entire screen glow bright green and it looks kinda wack
i think the crystal can be easily fixed by having the crystal blasts occur immediately after the summon's like. light line things? hit their target, and actually upon thinking about it the bloodflare bombs are good imo, so long as they have sufficient damage. but the tarragon minion i think could be much different
blazing prism
Cnidrion spawns wayyyy to frequently and is too easy too kill I remember when it was considered a miniboss
blazing prism
But it still spawns too often
blazing prism
He still spawns too often
golden tulip
ruby plover
there's already dev plans to change cnidron iirc
there's been suggestions about it already
golden tulip
can still try
small timber
no point in trying tbh, 90% it will be just 🛠️
muted osprey
have cnidrion be a DS minion so we can get rid of those stanky ass desert nuisances
keen zealot
ooh! and make em match again!
spare harbor
have cnidrion be a DS minion so we can get rid of those stanky ass desert nuisan...
Imo, this would make the fight even more aids on Deathmode.
I hate Cndrions, especially the speed increase they get.
small timber
@spare harbor a literally the same suggestion just get rejected recently, like just last batch, so this is 100% not happening
and if you mean just an item that function just like how demon altar give souls of light, you can literally just fish for it, and it isn't that annoying to begin with, to certain degree it is not annoying it is just lazy
especially with the consideration that tmodloader is 1.3, so you literally can just spawn kingslime and get 100 in 5 minutes
spare harbor
I didnt even know you could fish up souls
small timber
hallow crate drops soul unless something is changed
but mainly that since king slime farm still exist, there is no reason for something that (to certain degree even super inefficient) method to exist, demon altar dropping souls of night is probably more of a compensation for the hardmode ore rework (since otherwise pwnhammer no longer do anything)
and ya I just rechecked, pretty sure calamity added a fish of light that you can open for souls of light
golden tulip
i entered hardmode an hour ago and got souls of light like 45 minutes later
how fast do you want to be
gleaming orbit
Ok what if items such as life crystal, blood orange and mana crystal could be "un-consumed" ie use them again to revert their effects
Just as a small feature for things like testing
gleaming orbit
oh ok cool
would still be nice to see in vanilla calamity
is "vanilla calamity" a proper term?
sleek turret
i'd prefer base calamity but ehh i do understand what you mean
gleaming orbit
ok thats a better term
small timber
in base calamity there is 0 reason for you to do it which is why the function do not exist
things like necklace of vexation etc (basically low life give advantage) is almost exclusively used by no-hitters, where all of them use nycro's no hit mod
safe oasis
would still be nice to see in vanilla calamity
it has 0 use in regular calamity
i do however feel like it should be put in the tester mod rather than the nohit mod since that has more uses though
unique vector
@steady sparrow may wanna fix your formatting
also didnt 1.5.1 add acidwood walls
[[acidwood walls]]
red storm
sleek turret
they do not exist afaik
ashen warren
i do however feel like it should be put in the tester mod rather than the nohit ...
It is in the tester mod
lucid flare
they should add that
slender ember
hardy dock
Ech
gray nebula
Could also be as easy as making the drops be tied to the first mech you chose to fight even if its not the last one
hardy dock
I had the title typed out normally I have no idea why it deleted itself before posting
hardy dock
Could also be as easy as making the drops be tied to the first mech you chose to...
That’s also the case yea
Do you want me to edit with that suggestion somewhere
gray nebula
uh yeah i guess
cobalt pewter
rework
yeah having the chosen boss drop the loot instead of the last killed would be better
and maybe get rid of the increased loot pool with it? since it'd end up way more controllable
hardy dock
Oh yeah I meant to include that
fossil finch
Dog's newly buffed ai stays close to the player GOOD
small timber
staying close is fine, I think the fireball only need slight tweak
since the current one is just "yo range is easier, I spew fireball really fast so you really need to stay range more"
meanwhile for close/midrange weapon "I will eat you if you stay close to me, btw here is a fireball to your face instantaneously"
small timber
because the other option is to deal with 97.5% DR of the body
tardy smelt
it works well on some weapons (and its a tad less than that)
small timber
or the tail (you have to catch it first with the new giga fast turn AI)
tardy smelt
it works well on some weapons (and its a tad less than that)
in fact, it works amazingly with the Last Mourning
small timber
because not all mid-close range weapon is true melee that does obscene damage due to its downside
tardy smelt
its not a downside
its dealing damage in the least respectful way possible by bypassing all of a boss's defenses and going beserk right in their face
tardy smelt
because not all mid-close range weapon is true melee that does obscene damage du...
most of them are supposed to be balanced towards dealing more damage due to being close-ranged I'd assume
small timber
yes, but turns out not all close-midrange weapon is properly balanced
and the only thing suggested change will do is literally make being near the head not getting unfairly hit, as in at the very least reactable, instead of just stay as far away from the head as possible
which again, is rewarding the easier playstyle, rather than the playsytle associating with high risk high reward
tardy smelt
yes, but turns out not all close-midrange weapon is properly balanced
that's not a dog problem
that's a close-mid-range weapon balancing problem
small timber
have you try not to basically use a mechanic to force close-mid-range weapon even more unviable than it already is? instead of just make them slightly more viable while mostly unaffecting others
tardy smelt
i'm not sure what the fireballs have to do with this
if necessary, just sugg nerfing body DR
or go do something wacky, give the tail a proximity-based shield but give it negative DR (make it multiply damage done to it a-la crawltipede)
small timber
because right now the problem is this: the fireball basically ONLY punish you if you are near the head, specifically close-mid range weapon
with range weapon you can just get out of the way super early, because you can always deal damage anyway
therefore the fireball being instantaneous speed the moment it is fired only super heavily affect close-mid range weapon, making them even more unviable than it already is against DoG
the suggested change is to make close-mid range weapon slightly more viable, while it do not really affect range weapon
what is the point of keep enforcing the easy to play playstyle? instead of making the high risk high reward playstyle actually rewarding? rather than just too high risk to balance the reward
tardy smelt
what's the point of getting near the head
the head isn't DoG's weakpoint
its the gonna-hit-you-for-a-freight-train's-worth-of-damage-point
small timber
that is why it is HIGH RISK, high reward, the head take 1.1x damage instead of 0.025x because of 97.5% DR, the current problem is the fireball basically make staying close to head completely more unviable than it already is because you will just get hit by the fireball (eventhough you dodged the head)
another problem is DoG actually stop firing fireball when it is close to the player, and then it can just randomly continue firing anyway, which causes the problem mentioned because you are expecting it to not fire
last phase (<16.5%) it is constantly firing a stream of fireball so it is fine, but before that it basically is a cheapshot by randomly changing mechanic
hardy dock
DoG’s fireballs don’t really feel appropriate for the rest of the fight somehow
Dunno what it is but they just feel out of place
golden tulip
these are 2 seperate suggestions
tardy smelt
that is why it is HIGH RISK, high reward, the head take 1.1x damage instead of 0...
its not high risk high reward its high risk and why the fuck are you even trying to get close to that thing get the fuck out of the way 
tardy smelt
these are 2 seperate suggestions
^^^^
tardy smelt
unbased
grim tusk
Doesnt murasama reach em both
west jackal
Don’t play true melee just use biome blades smh
grim tusk
And even then you can just use the wiggling back and forth strat for scal
tardy smelt
Doesnt murasama reach em both
only Ares
tardy smelt
And even then you can just use the wiggling back and forth strat for scal
^^^^
twins are the only mechs that are really out of reach for true melee
grim tusk
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/893948640161321031/928010357983834132/DIE.mp4 very old infernum testing mishap that is on the teasers. Its relevant again
gusty burrow
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/893948640161321031/928010357983834132/DIE...
what the fuck
gray nebula
When the aotc is kinda already pretty loaded for a weapon ‼️
plus i rly dont wanna add more keybinds to it
fossil bronze
in general there are already too many keybinds imo
we don't need more random keybinds that only do one thing with one item
crude geode
Keybind bloat is indeed a thing that exists
gray nebula
we don't need more random keybinds that only do one thing with one item
So true
I'm glad i got informed of the "up" key being available for grabs by rover tho
inland saddle
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/893948640161321031/928010357983834132/DIE...
Hey that’s me
golden tulip
frail mortar
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/893948640161321031/928010357983834132/DIE...
How the fuck? 
inland saddle
dusty path
https://images-ext-2.discordapp.net/external/K9jcmdBGVso3s3DIQV8m_zZVQ8BvkHnGlk6...
Indeed
crude geode
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/893948640161321031/928010357983834132/DIE...
worms when coiled be like
small timber
just out of curiosity does any beta tester had tested on the yoyos? at the very least a complete run of yharon, scal and exo mechs
because I just want to know if it is even remotely possible before I attempt it
small timber
no because I am planning to do a suggestion on giving an upgrade to yoyo bag, because the current one is way overnerf to the point that all post-ML yoyo is nearly unusable
and I basically tested every single yoyo against bosses until yharon
hot zephyr
just out of curiosity does any beta tester had tested on the yoyos? at the very ...
oracle was tested against scal and mechs
(it was me, i did the tesf)
small timber
sorry, if I may may I ask for the kill time for scal? (mech is fine after I tested it myself)
since in my test it was incapable of killing brimstone heart in particular that drag out the fight significantly, other phase is fine
(though mine you can considered non-official test since I only do it for suggestion, but I do follow the general testing rules)
hot zephyr
it's just not something that's designed around killing hearts
small timber
ya I guess as much, may I ask for yharon?
hot zephyr
wasn't testing yharon at the time
small timber
after getting confirmation in CMT by some testers yharon seem to be heavily dependent on tester skills, but for me (I think probably average performance) it extend up to 10 mins
since the purpose of my test was to see the impact of yoyo bag nerf
novel belfry
#suggestions-posting message
Any thoughts on my suggestion?
crude geode
pretty subjective tbfh
in terms of "astrum aureus is the most annoying boss ever in existence!!1!! >:("
small timber
Though this is mode specific, in Death Mode it is better to kill the spawn because it constantly release projectile
fossil bronze
about the minion target thing
small timber
Other than that, ya not much, since it is a subjective opinion to rework the attack
fossil bronze
imo a very nice change would be to make bosses keep minion targets when they tp/go invul
for example dragonfolly/yharon phase change removes the markers
small timber
Minion target maybe kinda weird, dont it just get removed if boss turn invincible? (As in it is like a debuff?)
And currently it is rather easy to retarget (just right click), even easier 1.4 (whip)
novel belfry
an active aureus spawn will run at you at really fast speeds, and will do so for a long period of time before self-destructing automatically
at least that's my observation
small timber
The counter is usually to make your arena bottom solid ground, it explode on block collision
Though it may be more difficult if you dont know about it
novel belfry
The counter is usually to make your arena bottom solid ground, it explode on blo...
i don't think that should be the counter, not exactly what a new player would realize quickly
hollow shell
@digital saddle Did you discern this via in-game usage or just by looking at the stats?
I have no idea how either actually perform but I've seen many an occasion where people see lower base damage and think 'weaker weapon'
without using it
digital saddle
yeah nights stabber has a lower kill time on plant by quite a bit
Against a target dummy, nights stabber gets ~3.5k dps and and terra shiv gets ~2k with the exact same setup
Terra shiv pierces one more time but thats it
ashen warren
Against a boss?
digital saddle
yes i tried it on plant
ashen warren
What were the actual times
ruby plover
I thought you had images with the kill times in nohit
digital saddle
https://i.imgur.com/7GMXyMx.png No rippers true Night's stabber
https://i.imgur.com/8az9q0p.png No rippers terra shiv
both vs twins obviously
hollow shell
Thank you, this is good data
ruby plover
ive been thinking about making a suggestion about the bloodflare, tarragon, and ...
if i were to suggest this, should I get some kill time data? like, do an optimal summoner setup w/ the set bonus minion, then do a seperate fight with only the set bonus minion to see how much DPS it contributes
well, do fights with on-tier bosses for each minion, with auric on both scal and exos (cos i know the crystal in particular thrives in certain circumstances in both bosses, but never hits in certain parts)
i know for sure the crystal can't attack through blocks
crude geode
Could probably just bring up the minions not doing a lot in tarragon and silva’s case
modest verge
did 1.5.1 make artemis and apollo shoot upwards at you if you fall in the same direction for too long?
it feels too aggressive
ruby plover
no, but they lie further down on the y-axis during mecha mayhem
modest verge
i feel like i cant go down at all
i feel forced to only go up and horizontal but i definitely dont have the space for that
ruby plover
i've done it, you can go down diagonally with the twins, you just gotta do a small wiggle as their projectiles approach you
they still almost always will miss, but they can now occasionally hit you if you fallgod it
modest verge
ive managed that too
its just one more thing to keep track of
before you could basically just be going up or down
i only had to pay attention to their timing when changing vertical directionj
but now i have to be aware of every shot
its still definitely better than before but i feel like that could use some slight tweaking
just trying to figure out how best to articulate it
buoyant idol
Would it be okay to suggest the addition of dev weapons to adult eidolon's loot pool?
ashen warren
too complex and this was denied ages ago iirc
too finicky to "figure out what your class is" without creating issues
fossil finch
that'd be weird as fuck
cobalt pewter
would be a major issue for multiplayer I think
it's doable if only single player, but totally not happening while mp is still alive
edgy sundial
recipe to convert loot bag to <CLASS> loot bags and back seems like the only feasible way
fossil bronze
or some kind of menu when you open the bag
ashen warren
recipe to convert loot bag to <CLASS> loot bags and back seems like the only fea...
what lo
and ye
this solves a problem that already has a solution
do the boss again
fossil finch
recipe to convert loot bag to <CLASS> loot bags and back seems like the only fea...
yes, and that's why we can point people to loot swapper if they feel inconvenienced by it
cobalt pewter
a
fossil bronze
terraria fans having a fucking stroke the moment you tell them to grind
anyway, idk about having aew drop shadowspec tier items, i just think it should drop something better than what it does now
also, that reminds me
aew should drop hadopalegic echo instead of eidolic wail imo
lucid flare
just make the most out of what you can with the current loot and fight the boss again lol
beat the perforators but you didn't get the [CLASS] weapon that drops from it? jjust make aerospec armor & maybe some new accessories and fight it again
(or maybe since its the perforators you could just make the weapon yourself anywa)
crude geode
@hollow shell Future content + custom item idea
gray nebula
hollow shell
@slim lion Do not make suggestions regarding future content such as the 1.4 port
slim lion
K k my bad just got a bit eager
cobalt pewter
also like
isn't Zenith planned to be just retiered?
slim lion
Idk
gray nebula
retiererd
zenith is an awesome weapon..
not as awesome as aotc tho (chunglasses) plus 1.4 isnt happening in MONTHS anyways (i turn to the camera and look at it straight in the eyes
dense ferry
IBan I think you're going insane
dense ferry
Fair
gray nebula
This but replace tarragon with most of the 5 helmet armors from post ml (tbh pre ml also counts)
and instead of rework you say "turn it into a single helmet set, while adding other armors to compensate for variety's sake"
and then as reasoning you put "this would increase playthrough variety and allow set bonuses to have a stronger identity instead of requiring 5 separate bonuses per armor, which can heavily limit creativity"
gray nebula
Yes:!
ruby plover
oh, seperate armours sounds cool
especially since there is prismatic armour already and yes i know that's different, being donor and being post SW, but still
the "armour with 5 different helmets" is a bit overused
gray nebula
Donor armor (very sad emoji, despite donor armors setting more of a precedent for unique single helmet class armors, its also a bit restrictive design wise and usually arent fitting thematically for their tier, but it is ok"
you dont need to do that ian actually we have a dev doc hiih
hihi
hot zephyr
i know 
OMBGUS among US!
cobalt pewter
least cryptic calamity development team
anyways
armors have been suckydooky in pml for ages
i demand
change
make tarra and bloodflare like gs and silva
ruby plover
...how so?
lucid flare
bed & bath & beyond & babove
ruby plover
fearmonger doesn't really count tho lol
lucid flare
...how so?
segregated by class
like how godSLAYER is melee/rangerogue &&then silver is mage & summmoner
ruby plover
oh. oh right, ic
i thought it was in reference to their special shared bonus, that being revive and GSD
lucid flare
god slayer DASH‼️(i always forget that it exists)
ruby plover
GSD is my beloved, i never forget it 💜
cobalt pewter
When do we get Darksun armor though
so true
umbraphile upgrade at least
also like
stratus armor
dude
the potential
lucid flare
plagiarize vinh's auric tesla set bonuses from the art server
cobalt pewter
auric tesla terror
lucid flare
what
gray nebula
When do we get Darksun armor though
Yes
lucid flare
goijg to clone the spriters so they make more sprinting
violet dagger
tbh I am surprised none of the spriters have just done god slayer wings
the message has been sitting in sprites needed for a while so I would expect that
cobalt pewter
there hasn't been any other submissions in a while
and none of the submissions have been accepted iirc
for the wings
unique vector
choomfie
hot zephyr
@unique vector toxic
unique vector
:))
stable musk
Summoner tarragon set just ruins profaned soul crystal quest
It deals almost no damage to next bosses
cobalt heath
the hole armor needs more relevancy
you use it for one boss
(i do sentinels before provi)
thank god ravager will be only post provi
small timber
meanwhile rogue just have titanium armor set bonus
distant gyro
whole
cobalt pewter
lole
distant gyro
words
cobalt pewter
thank god ravager will be only post provi
devs have never confirmed where it'll be moved, only the fact that Rav will move
the sugg was flagged because of the latter
small timber
feels like if around polter will be suitable, currently it do feel weird that (if ravager is the only bloodstone source), you access all bloodstone core weapon but bloodflare armor itself is locked behind an extra boss
or preboss of post-ML, but that will make bloodstone position really awkward
cobalt heath
its prolly near provi
swift sinew
Summoner tarragon set just ruins profaned soul crystal quest
Hell yeah it does, I didn’t realise after like 6h that it had an AOE and that’s the reason I was failing.
I ending up just using the profaned soul crystal, and no other accessories I tel you when you make a dent then the Guardian spawn and bring providence back fo full hp it’s soul destroying.
Also, the amour after that had the same sort of affect, they really need to remove these or add them as a toggle instead of passive as they mes up the challenge like you said
crude geode
News flash, a lot of suggestions come from complaints
cobalt pewter
tarragon (and by extension, uelibloom in general) is ass
rogue tarra is fucking dum
tepid mantle
There is no summoner armor that doesn't do damage
Tarragon - aura, bloodflare - orbs, silva - crystal
small timber
I think bloodflare and silva set BONUS is fine, they just need to buff damage
tarragon is just straight up awful
swift sinew
Tarragon - aura, bloodflare - orbs, silva - crystal
Actually fearmonger does
tepid mantle
Actually fearmonger does
It's multiclass and doesn't work with profaned soul artefact
swift sinew
Talking about the summoner head, which allows you to actually do the profaned soul crystal
swift sinew
It's multiclass and doesn't work with profaned soul artefact
It does…… I have done this, just use the summoner Helmet, trust me it activates the profaned artifact.
I did the challenge with it
stable musk
I did challenge in 2nd try with strategy called "NIGIRUNDAYOOOO"
swift sinew
It's multiclass and doesn't work with profaned soul artefact
Wait what the hell? , it’s the upgrade to spooky; it has no other class but summoner 😅
stable musk
Because tarragon set bonus is literally fr invisible
swift sinew
I did challenge in 2nd try with strategy called "NIGIRUNDAYOOOO"
Took me 6h, as I didn’t notice the buff of taragon AoE 😳
swift sinew
Because tarragon set bonus is literally fr invisible
Yep, really need to be able to disable it
stable musk
Stardust armor may work cuz guardian is useless. But it isn't really a thing because no offensive guard. It leaves useless invisible ruining tarragon set bonus.
For melee it was actually useful for polter earlier, but defense damage exists so no more facetanking. It's just decent for polter
cobalt heath
buffs and relevancy for tarragon
stable musk
godslayer wings
Elysian tracers
cobalt heath
were setbonus w godslayer
stable musk
Also WHY ARMOR SPLIT I LITERALLY WANT GOD SLAYER DASH AS MAGE BUT IM LOCKED TO REVIVE
cobalt heath
cause why have silva if no split
stable musk
Different option if you want revive or dash
stable musk
Revive may be better for someone because no need to press t to save yourself ||skill issue||
Also leaf crystal from summoner set
cobalt pewter
the split is a good step towards less cringe armor system in pml
cobalt heath
now we just need split from auric
stable musk
N O
cobalt heath
make demonshade mage and summoner exlusive
stable musk
N O
cobalt heath
there would be no problems w that idea
lets make auric run trough yharim and make it even more relevant
stable musk
You'll just shrink amount of choice you can have
cobalt heath
i know
cobalt pewter
the current 5-helmet formula is ass
stable musk
Ranged wants enrage? No, get locked into _____
Mage wants _____? No, get enrage
cobalt heath
make everything upgrade from lunar armor
cobalt pewter
and it makes designing those annoying and confusing as you need to cater to everything with an armor
stable musk
And single class armors are bruh
stable musk
- Ok I'll do multiclass. I can switch helmets so prob not much problem
Vs. - Ok I'll do multiclass... Autopause on
– look what cool armor i got
– i want it too. i like your set bonus : )
– lol no your mage