suggestions-discussion

[unique vector]

kalm

[crude geode]

it really doesn't serve a purpose in cadence

[warm jetty]

That's why I suggested it lol.

[crude geode]

remove calming potion period

not just the effects of it

[warm jetty]

Nah calming and Zen are useful for building, fishing, etc.

[crude geode]

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

please read the full message pls'n'thx

[warm jetty]

Well yeah, I was assuming it would be implied that removing the effects would remove the item from the crafting recipe too, sorry about that.

[crude geode]

Yeah it don’t tbfh

[warm jetty]

Ok.

I mean if we are being fair, your comment didn't make a lot of sense either, implying to remove it from the game. Context is important.

[grim tusk]

Last sugg sounds like lack of practice on the bosses

And not min maxing movement speed as its a necessity on malice

2 people have nohitted all of the malice bosses (and theres some that have nohitted most of em) and its usually the final ones (as well as BoC and Cal clone) which give trouble

Also third one is more of arena and worm spawn mechanic issue (which is all modes but more noticeable on harder ones cuz its longer)

(Why does it not spawn coiled)

(Its not like shitty EoW where its not vanilla hardcode)

[small timber]

perf hive maybe (I haven't really fight him a lot in malice), queen bee and skeletron is no WAY near anything he says

and I am not even that good

queen bee and skeletron sounds like genuine lack of practice

[crude geode]

@supple glacier see above

[unique vector]

you should also like

add some form of feedback/changes you want to have, and not just list your problems

what are you trying to suggest? what do you you want changed? why should they be changed?

and half of this list seems like subjective anecdotals

[crude geode]

None of this is a suggestion it’s just stating anecdotes

[frail mortar]

i mean, it's called malice for a reason

it's intended to be a challenge

[crude geode]

Personally I think there should be attacks you can’t dodge in malice mode

Just to fuck with no hitters

[frail mortar]

yes

XD

[crude geode]

I respect them but I also don’t

[small timber]

make every boss deal 1 damage to the player at the start of the fight

[crude geode]

to have somewhere to put challenge drops but now it just kinda serves as "death mode but fast!!1!1"

esp. now that death mode enviro changes are gone

[frail mortar]

It was intended to be reveangence on drugs and all the challenge drops got moved to malice

I think they're going back to rev for challenge drops though

Actually no

Challenge drops are becoming available as a boss' normal drop pool item

Just at a lesser rate

[brittle pumice]

rip burden breaker 😔

[frail mortar]

I feel like some items should at least be behind rev though still
Not all the challenge drops, only a select few

Like sea's searing which is capable of some ridiculous damage

[crude geode]

replace burden breaker with <insert random ass shit nobody cared about before it was removed like heart rapier>

[frail mortar]

They shouldn't put it behind malice, just rev

Rev is manageable

Malice is uhh.. not so much

[brittle pumice]

im p sure literally all content is getting stripped of difficulty locks as far as im aware

[frail mortar]

Ye

[crude geode]

indeed

[brittle pumice]

and frankly? hell yeah.

[crude geode]

not a hot take really. pretty cold.

[brittle pumice]

classic mode is for people who are too bad at video games to play higher difficulties (me)

[crude geode]

or it's

yknow

for people who don't play the mod 24/7?

[brittle pumice]

honestly i feel like people drag classic mode way too much, it's still a decent challenge and not dying 50 times in the first hour of a playthrough is nice

[crude geode]

people indeed do

it's because calamity, like most communities, has a pretty damn vocal subsection of elitists

[brittle pumice]

actually wait i have the perfect quote for this

[small timber]

they did not specify how the new challenge drop (ie legendary drop) will be available in all difficulty

[small timber]

because I will be surprise if it is back to 1% drop on boss considering the devs changed it on purpose

[brittle pumice]

yeah 1% chances suck, i would much prefer a reward for doing it in a specific way

[small timber]

it is just a wild guess, what if they took inspiration from night providence and day empress

[brittle pumice]

like killing dog without ever getting hit by head head for skullmasher or smth

[small timber]

basically they add a perma enrage condition to all boss and if you beat them that way they drop challenge drop

basically malice drop without forcing malice

[crude geode]

(it's also reaaaally not hard to see why a elitist subsection exists considering the types of games the creator of the mod is a fan of)
malice mode is just really really weird

[small timber]

@mighty schooner just find a mod that does it, it probably exist, no reason for calamity to add it specifically

not really a calamity function

[crude geode]

except calamity is the one to add chaos rod being unusable while chaos state is active but yknow

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[small timber]

I mean that is for balance purpose

[brittle pumice]

also its very minor but please bold the title text it just looks wrong without bolded title

[small timber]

and balance is part of calamity

[crude geode]

that doesn't change the fact that it's something calamity does

(also this reasonably is a calamity function considering stuff like adrenaline/rage have a sound cue when they're ready)

[small timber]

then calamity should also add item that stops evil spread, quick arena maker because many calamity boss require arena building, quick npc house builder because there is a lot of npc... I think you get it

[brittle pumice]

calamity does also have bosses that make rod or other teleports very valuable

then again so do a lot of mods

[small timber]

calamity can add it definitely, just whether it is necessarily something that only calamity can do

[brittle pumice]

i feel like if this happens it should be standard for cooldowns, like give gsd a sound cue as well

[crude geode]

it probably should be in general standard

[brittle pumice]

i think plague reaper has a cooldown end sound already

[eager salmon]

That’s literally what malice is

[crude geode]

I hate having to look not at my character to know when something is off/on cooldown, it's why adrenaline and rage have sound cues

[small timber]

except that bosses don't deal 35% damage, don't have 25% projectile speed (which make a lot of boss much harder) and force death mode condition basically

[brittle pumice]

and those are much easier to tell than whether or not one of the 15 status effects you have is chaos state

[mighty schooner]

chaos state sound cues for the win

[crude geode]

factual

[mighty schooner]

im working on DOG and its hard as shit to just notice chaos state at a glance

especially with cirrus buffs

[crude geode]

yeah

[mighty schooner]

that are the same shade of pink

[small timber]

I will be honest there is probably other mod you can find that does that already, if you want it immediately

I don't see how it don't exist yet

[eager salmon]

Malice doesn’t increase stats, it just gives the bosses an ultra-aggressive AI. It actually uses the standard enraged AIs for most bosses that have them.

[crude geode]

if you want you could also extend your sugg to involve other cooldowns (chaos state, godslayer dash, etc.)

[mighty schooner]

yeah it was literally just a quality of life suggestion

like how calamity has so many other quality of life changes

[brittle pumice]

why would that exist for vanilla, chaos state is much less of an issue there

[crude geode]

^^^^^^

[small timber]

I tested it, Malice definitely increase damage, AI change is just one part of Malice

and by a lot too

[eager salmon]

Maybe, but 35% damage increase in classic is still basically zero damage.

[crude geode]

very true!

[small timber]

that is when you assume you are playing it on classic, it stacks on other difficulty like expert, rev and death

[eager salmon]

Any damage below 100 rounds down to zero in my mind.

[eager salmon]

Yeah

I know

[small timber]

then what is this since you acknowledge that it do happen

[eager salmon]

You were talking about classic before, so I continued with those numbers.

[small timber]

not really, didn't specify any difficulty

changelog only stat all modes, so was talking about all modes

[crude geode]

I think qol changes are kinda cringe but the idea of adding sound cues to normal cooldowns (potions, godslayer dash, chaos state, certain armor set bonuses) is a good idea so that way you don't have to glance to a random corner of you screen during boss fights to see if you can heal or not, and would fit with how Calamity handles adrenaline and rage.

[eager salmon]

Sorry, not you. It was spooky.

[small timber]

oh ok sry, thought you are talking about the samething

[mighty schooner]

im not saying its a qol mod, there are far more additions in calamity than changes

im just saying qol is nice for a reason

[eager salmon]

Either way the damage isn’t the main problem on most bosses. Most two-shots are still two-shots. Most three-shots are still three-shots.

[small timber]

for potion the very least I know that I use a lot is Lan's Simple Healthbar which add potion CD icon and health/mana bar below your character

[eager salmon]

The big problem is how fast they become, and that’s a huge skill check.

[small timber]

I assume that there probably is other version of that mod that do add chaos state CD etc

ya if you are aruging in that sense, ya the malice damage only stacks when you put it onto other difficulty mode (most notably death mode), they go from bearable to chonks your hp

[eager salmon]

They were already chonks of hp on rev and death tbh.

And besides, malice is not meant to be fought on-tier.

You are meant to go back after you’ve gotten a boss or two ahead, then still have a difficult challenge.

[small timber]

not even close, in death mode if you go full tank you can tank end bosses really well (like super well), with malice you are complete paper with tank build, it matters a lot

[crude geode]

@mighty schooner If you wanna incorporate any of this ideas into your suggestion monu, feel free. Currently your sugg could use more reasoning on why it would benefit the mod (without leaning into the don't of "it would be qol" reasoning), so adding some other reasoning would be beneficial to it's validity. also bolding title isn't necessary but it makes the sugg look nicer in posting

[mighty schooner]

ok somehow there isnt a single working rod cd mod

[crude geode]

not surprising

[mighty schooner]

its such a simple thing i dont know why people havent made a mod for it yet

[crude geode]

contrary to some beliefs here there is not, in fact, a mod for everything

[crude geode]

(also on a personal note I think that this is more valid reasoning than qol, considering most vanilla buffs have a blue background that is very distinguishable from rod's pink)

[small timber]

have you tried chippy's rod of discord timer?

[mighty schooner]

doesnt work

not downloadable on tmod

dont know why

probably out of date or something

[grave zinc]

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[crude geode]

Smh my head bot spam

[fleet bobcat]

:D

[languid quartz]

spam p2

(awesome)

[grave zinc]

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[fleet bobcat]

that’s a pog

[violet dagger]

I predicted this like a week ago lmao

[fleet bobcat]

lmfao

[unique vector]

when the eyes are sus

[grave zinc]

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[fleet bobcat]

sab

[violet dagger]

tbf I mean it was pretty obvious

[fleet bobcat]

lol

[crude geode]

It really wasn’t surprising in any way

[unique vector]

we are removing lore from the mod

[fleet bobcat]

[crude geode]

Pixl when lore:

[fleet bobcat]

lmao

[unique vector]

me when im technically our other co writer but not really bc i never rememeber to write

[tacit tide]

no pls dont remove lore

[violet dagger]

also why are there none of the sent reactions on suggestions that just got sent

[crude geode]

This is why calamity lore is in a constant hyper state of both existing and not existing

[violet dagger]

the one that got locked got a reaction

none of the others did

[crude geode]

It did tho it got the ✅

[violet dagger]

is it just my discord being stupid

[crude geode]

Probably pisscord

[fleet bobcat]

make the lore gay pls 🥺 /j

[violet dagger]

ok yup now its fine

[fleet bobcat]

lol

[unique vector]

adding more lesbians to the lore

[tacit tide]

ok

[fleet bobcat]

let’s gooo

[crude geode]

True

[hollow shell]

Fuck

Whitelist

What're you doing

[eternal escarp]

its counted as a rare enemy, affected by the lifeform analyzer

thats what the suggestion talks about

[stiff wren]

Cnidrion more like annoying-little-shit-that-always-spawns-in-my-ds-arena-drion

[gentle fog]

also spawns during events lol

although iirc they're fixing the spawn issues in the next update

[stiff wren]

My favourite part of calamity mod is when im fighting an endgame boss and i see a cnidrion just slowly clip through the ground

[small timber]

post scal cnidrion as the second secret boss to adult eidolon wyrm

[knotty peak]

Giant clam when your a summoner

Stop it

[serene slate]

Good

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[dark herald]

wtf pogger

[frozen hornet]

Nice

[glossy stone]

Ooo nice

[frail mortar]

That didn't take long

[eternal escarp]

i think guardian phase rework somewhat

moots this sugg?

[forest terrace]

oh sorry i didn't see that changelog when i checked earlier

[small timber]

158 of next patch

or ctrl+f guardian

[kindred relic]

holy shit theres lots of suggestions going through

lfg

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[crude geode]

Pog

[dark herald]

wow cool

[silent verge]

@mighty schooner I actually made a mod for your Chaos State suggestion not too long ago, so not exactly sure how solid it is but if you're interested it should be called Cooldown Indicators or CD Indicators in the mod browser

[jagged spade]

when is there going to be any kind of activity on this one

[small timber]

the 👍 is only saying that the devs agree with the changes (basically ya we think so), but do not necessary mean they will do it

[crude geode]

Indeed

Like most suggestions with 👍 will not get much more than that

[small timber]

🛠️ this one is the one that the devs definitely is actively trying to do, and if it stays 🛠️ for excessively long period of time you can probably yell at someone (but don't do that, do acknowledge implementation takes time)

[jagged spade]

so its just gonna stay in accepted suggestions for now

[small timber]

depend on if certain devs will get to it when the time comes, 👍 basically says when we get over all the 🛠️ we might look at them

basically 👍 is just have higher priority to get look at not really guaranteed implementation

[jagged spade]

k

[cobalt pewter]

Bat Hook is post Eclipse in cal iirc

[hollow shell]

I usually get good use out of hooks in PreHM for getting around boss arenas

Like grabbing a higher platform when you're outta jumps

[small timber]

ya pre-hm for sure, but at the same time most pre-HM bosses don't pressure you to have fast hook

I reworded the suggestion, this probably sounds closer to what I want to make the suggestion for

[hollow shell]

Part of the problem is hooks having both send-out times and reel-in times

Hook of Dissonance in 1.4 I can see being an actually viable hook

[small timber]

ya, send out directly affect how long before you hook can't reach and reel in affect how much you can afford to use it before get hit by the boss

currently Serpent's Bite is doing better than all of HM hooks due to this regard (it simply have the highest launch (send-out) and pull (reel-in) velocity of all HM hooks except Lunar which its reach make it comparable

[cobalt pewter]

you're kinda missing the point of having a hook iirc, particularly on the "dodging the boss" part

the most effective way to use hooks in this instance is to immediately cancel the hook to preserve the additional momentum and move around with said momentum

even if they need a lil buff, the way they work will make at least most hooks usable with the way I said

[small timber]

that is why it needs buff, it is the fact that the most useful way to use the hook is to cancel it like 20-30% of its pull distance

[eager salmon]

That’s just because of how hooks work though?

If you don’t cancel, they eat your momentum.

[small timber]

is hook useless? not at all, it is extremely useful for resetting wing flight and jump, but the fact that it is their entire use is what the suggestion is trying to address

[eager salmon]

If you do cancel, you get a massive speed boost.

[small timber]

cancelling when it is close to destination sure, now you cancel it as soon as the hook reach anything because the momentum is still created

there is almost no reason to ever let hook go for more than 90% of its pull distance, but currently most of the time letting it go at like 20%-30% full distance is optimal

unless it is bobbit hook which is faster than even flying

[golden narwhal]

Letting it go after a short while is optimal when you want to spend all of your time flying and not getting to platforms (i.e. most bosses as you progress)

I don't it's a problem with hooks as it is a difference in playstyle as you progress

[small timber]

then we will talk from the other perspective: if the player is not using the hook in the most optimal way, hooks will be completely shit because of how slow it is

a.k.a. most of average player (hence it is called "average" player)

[golden narwhal]

I do agree with this, ye (except for 'completely' shit)

[eager salmon]

Problem: Making hooks faster and longer would only accentuate this skill gap.

[small timber]

ya completely shit maybe overexaggurating, but I think you get the point

not really, malice no hitters will still wingless sandstorm jump and normal player don't do it

[eager salmon]

Right now hooks are fine imo. They just aren’t mandatory late-game.

[crude geode]

The suggestion doesn’t talk about buffing reach

[small timber]

and "skill gap" is less of an issue in pve game, it extend skill ceiling but also higher skill floor

[crude geode]

It talks about launch and pull velocity

[small timber]

ya reach is good enough, even bobbit actually don't have super high reach, just high speed

[crude geode]

I think just the fact that so many hardmode hooks are just like. an immensely minor difference is just kinda cringe tbfh

[small timber]

and bat hook is better than lunar hook

[crude geode]

ye

[cobalt pewter]

just because you use hooks as a propel doesn't mean you're a DADI nohitting God

I'm just saying hooks are more effective to be used that way in combat

[stable musk]

it is invisible

[small timber]

probably need to address ceaseless hunger potion, I think that is the main thing people will criticise the suggestion

[short walrus]

also, how

[stable musk]

lunar fragments is visible on map

[small timber]

pillar fragments do show on map as far as I am aware, so it probably is doable

[eternal escarp]

yeah its a possible thing to do but

[short walrus]

neat

[eternal escarp]

Ceaseless Hunger is a thing indeed

which practically

nullifies the entire issue

and fixes it better then a map icon

because you straight up get it rather then have to look for it and collect

[stable musk]

some people might be just too lazy to kill cv again

[eternal escarp]

thats

a you issue then

[stable musk]

but yet yes

[small timber]

ya that is a very hard reason for suggestion

[eternal escarp]

"im too lazy" is not a good arguement whats so ever

[cobalt pewter]

honestly? stuff to increase grab range significantly earlier in the game would be nice

[eternal escarp]

you could argue im too lazy to look at the map and scavange the items

[stable musk]

some people might even not know about it

[eternal escarp]

so im taking ceaseless shunger

[cobalt pewter]

and make the succ potion last longer to circumvent the value

[stable musk]

or using it just crashes them

[small timber]

speaking about grab range, didnt they mention they will readd lore grab range somewhere or we get baited

[cobalt pewter]

uh

idk

[eternal escarp]

by that logic, not everyone will know about the nightmare / endothermic

[cobalt pewter]

Terraria has always been a wiki game

[eternal escarp]

Dark Matter is a direct drop from a main-ish boss

[cobalt pewter]

you're not going anywhere without some sort of a detailed guide

[eternal escarp]

even if we dont take wiki into account, theres the guide tro

[stable musk]

using ceaseless potion crashes sometimes

[cobalt pewter]

so true

[small timber]

I think people knowing about ceaseless hunger potion is very logical, it is used to craft cosmic worm (which is to fight dog therefore events)

[eternal escarp]

its 5 seconds, i doubt it can cause a crash

[small timber]

the only one argument really is "ceaseless potion can crash low end pc" as you mentioned

[eternal escarp]

i can see it making slight lag but

a crash?

if it crashes your game i think you just did something wrong that theres so many items on the ground in your world tbh

[cobalt pewter]

if you're doing a 10x spawnrate frost moon and with time lock at night, grinding till no end

maybe

even then there's a limit

on ground items

[small timber]

nah it can crush low end pc, not everywhere is first world country and pc is cheap

though it will still be hard as an arugment (a.k.a. mostly a "you issue")

[eternal escarp]

no i mean like

personally i never heard a crash from items all being bundled to one area

[small timber]

most notably old pc I think, low end old pc, I lagged in yharon fireball before switched to new

I think as long as you get out a good reason why ceaseless potion may not always be viable then the suggestion can work, as people who don't want their map to get clogged up by materials can just use ceaseless potion (while those can't just pick it up themselves)

[crude geode]

Fairly certain baited 😔

[golden narwhal]

Honestly "fighting a boss for this niche necessary task is time-consuming" is a good enough counterargument especially since yea, this still wouldn't invalidate ceaseless hunger ('good enough' because ceaseless likely gives you enough mats on first kill anyway )

[small timber]

the attack was probably weak because hell arena sucks, and player who wants difficulty in providence will just fight night version instead

I think the day crystal staying weak is fine, considering arena building limitation

[cobalt pewter]

the game will be ruined if only nohitters balanced it

[small timber]

step 1: make every boss deal 9999 damage because you only have 1 hp anyway so it don't matter

step 2: increase boss hp by 5x but remove rdr because bosses are very squishy
step 3: adrenaline deals more damage the more you stay no hit, it is a no-hit incenvitizing mechanic anyway so I dont see why not

[eternal escarp]

@agile thorn you need to format your suggestion correctly and give a better reason then "they are cool"

[agile thorn]

ohh alr

[fleet bobcat]

that’s only if there’s a lot of items on the ground

[gray nebula]

i agree with that suggestion

i dont agree with making it useful for much longer than early game so like i mean cuz like im ean in the end its wulfruml

[unique glade]

:D, yeah- Though you could potentially make a more permanent but less strong use, like blood orbs

[exotic stag]

blood orbs are potion makers. more useful then an early game armor that you use to gain more things

[unique vector]

im like p sure this was a suggestsion in thep ast

nvm

its just very similar

[unique glade]

Well yeah but blood orbs are allways usefull to some degree

[gray nebula]

nono

[unique glade]

So perhaps Buff items? I was thinking maybe a buff furniture that didint do anything crazy like sunflowers

[gray nebula]

there was an accepted "add a resource sink for wulfrum" sugg

[exotic stag]

blood orbs are useful because they are made for POTIONS. which are universally useful

naturally

[gray nebula]

rover even made some cool concepts and i started some sprites

[exotic stag]

they are just an easier way for potions

[unique glade]

Oh

[gray nebula]

id like to get around to maybe coding em but they require a bit of effort but yeah

well not so much effort as just , idk how to code em

[unique glade]

Nice

xp

[gray nebula]

yeah thats the one

[unique glade]

Ahh, he makes an argument for its similarity to gel

I didint think of that

[unique vector]

wtf i couldnt find it

OH i fucking looked at the

wrong channel

wait

[unique glade]

Tbh something that would help too is a wulfrum table and wulfrum chair

[gray nebula]

(wulfrum furniture in general then?)

[unique vector]

oh

[exotic stag]

wulfrum barriers

[unique vector]

guhfhfh

i didnt scroll down one message

[unique glade]

yeah, make it a more versatile construction material so you can make platforms & NPC houses out of it, ideally withought having to dig up stone 1 for 1 too

[exotic stag]

hear me out. make wulfrum useful in events by allowing you to craft barriers that guard against enemies. and they have health, but when killed they take a full ingame day to regenerate. unique

[unique vector]

omg actual versatile traps

we should make wulfrum like minecraft redstone

[exotic stag]

yes traps but instead its a barrie

barrier

[gray nebula]

thoufh even with a wulfrum furniture set i dont think itd really act that much as a resource sink

[exotic stag]

my idea gud yes.

[unique vector]

it wouldnt

but furniture is cool

[unique glade]

I also had this neat idea for a consumeable made of energy cores and wulfrum scraps that would summon a bunch of wulfrum enemies

[unique vector]

didnt someone make a wulfrum set in calart

what happened to that

[exotic stag]

thats just

pandoras box

[unique glade]

No no no, you see

[gray nebula]

#458432092301295618 message

here (for pixl) (this is a dev link the populace may not access it

[exotic stag]

thats pandoras box for wulfrum simon.

literally

pandoras box for wulfrum

[gray nebula]

ppl made wulfrum stuff for calamity vantiies

[unique glade]

I say "a bunch" not that much

and you would summon them into the blue buff thing

[exotic stag]

pandoras box summons like 6.

[unique vector]

wtf

[exotic stag]

6 enemies

[unique vector]

wulfrum idea jumpscare

[exotic stag]

which can spawn more sure. but like

[gray nebula]

actually are the wulfrum ideas on the trello

[unique vector]

i dont think so?

[exotic stag]

your just sugging pandoras wulfrum box

[gray nebula]

probably throw them on there if they arent

[unique vector]

ive never seen them

okay yea ill dot hat

[unique vector]

ohhhh it was for calval

sadge

[unique glade]

I mean it was more of to make harvesting energy cores easier if you have a lot of energy cores, and also a nice mini-mini boss event where you are trying to fight the buffed enemies

[exotic stag]

"if you have a lot of energy cores. it'd make it easier to get more"

you already have a lot.

[unique glade]

Ok fair enough, its a flawed idea, but I liked the idea of being able to get a bunch of enemies into the buff and having to fight them

[fossil finch]

you can always like steal those

[hollow idol]

Triangle (wulfrum furniture spriter) did ask if he could submit em to main but got no official response

[unique vector]

i mean nothing is stopping them from doing so

i liked the set

[hollow idol]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/721194748240592977/924145774592405514/unknown.png

[violet dagger]

yeah it looks good

[unique vector]

@hollow idol tell them to submit through sprite submissions in calart

[hollow idol]

don

e

[unique vector]

[fossil finch]

poggers

[tawdry iron]

Quick question: was there suggestion about some sort of search for biome shrines?
Would not post it myself.

[hollow idol]

they just need to be sheeted (they have been done for months but nobody wants to sheet em)

[small timber]

The purpose of biome shrine is that they are rare and something you feel excited to get when you just come across it

[unique vector]

shrines are

funny

i will not say more

just know if u make a suggestion like that, its gonna get a 🔒

[exotic stag]

just make shrines nonexistant. or make them cooler looking rather then just "Chest in a tiny little hut"

[hollow idol]

no > : /

[exotic stag]

github link

[tawdry iron]

VIRUS

f*ck

Anyway

ty for answers, now going to deal with that sh*t

[hollow idol]

@unique vector it is also here

[unique vector]

bot is not having a good day rn

[hollow idol]

github is whitelisted

[exotic stag]

it wont filter github links thats probably why

[violet dagger]

well it was a github link wasn't it

yeah

[hollow idol]

theyre learning

[exotic stag]

no

its an old trick of they want you to test their game but the game has a virus in it

[unique vector]

most likely yea

ill ask if we can make an announcement

[exotic stag]

just blacklist github links except for the calgithub

[hexed hamlet]

🚆

[small timber]

just blacklist posting links by people other than mods and devs

[exotic stag]

then we cant post the mirror.

[tawdry iron]

.rar file, instantly downloads, cancelled midway, still got alert from windows defender, immediately deleted manually (report for future cases)

[exotic stag]

why would you ever need to click on that link. just dont click on githubs?

[violet dagger]

well github is usually trustable

how would you get smth instantly downloaded from github tho

[exotic stag]

just dont click on non-trusted githubs though..

[exotic stag]

you can hide links within other links

[violet dagger]

oh

[exotic stag]

i.e you can hide a virus link within a discord embed

like it'd say "discord.com" like it should. but it'd be secretly like "virusgetter"

[unique vector]

link pointers yeah

[hexed hamlet]

Well i asked if i could in cal art since some people asked me to submit to main and i was told a wulfrum furniture set was not needed

If i remember well

[fossil finch]

well pixl just gave you the go so like

r

[unique vector]

@hexed hamlet submit it anyway

we can just deny it if we dont want it

[hollow shell]

@stable musk The Lunar Fragments showing up on the map is not a vanilla nor Calamity feature

[eternal escarp]

oh huh

[hollow shell]

iirc it's part of Boss Checklist

[eternal escarp]

that does make sense actually

byeah the main counter to the sugg is just

using Ceaseless Hunger

[unique vector]

i mean map icons are usually nice

but like

at what point does it become clutter

[hollow shell]

That is actually available to the player at that point so actually valid feedback for once

shit

[eternal escarp]

kek

[unique vector]

god

[hollow shell]

Meant to reply to Blast

[eternal escarp]

they did have the counterarguement of

1. its bothersome to fight CV for a potion (eh)
2. it can cause lag (yeah this i can see)

[hollow shell]

It can indeed

[eternal escarp]

first point, imo, is not really good
but the second is an arguement yeah

[exotic stag]

byeah just imagine beating DoG. not saving. using ceaseless hunger and crashing

[hollow idol]

I think having 135 endo energy icons on your map might affect performance .

[eternal escarp]

thats also true..

actually

wait no

doesnt DoG already do that and more

[hollow shell]

But uh yeah the sugg is valid
as long as it acknowledges that's a Boss Checklist feature (or whatever mod it's from)
and instead asks that we add compatibility for that, use their ModCalls or something

[hollow idol]

DoG has 102, fair
I do remember the fragment map icons causing a lil bit of lag for me tho

[eternal escarp]

ah

[exotic stag]

boss checklist

it is boss checklist lo

[sharp pond]

Name the owner role Yharim, Jungle Tyrant for April fools

And have the staff have their roles to other calamity bosses

[meager geyser]

[sharp pond]

And then have them RP as them

[brittle pumice]

i can't tell if that's amazing or terrible

[sharp pond]

Both

Be really funny once mods role turns to “Servants of Yharim”

Head admin
“Yharon, Jungle Dragon”

[crude geode]

cringe

[unique vector]

calamity rp server

[sharp pond]

Based

[grim tusk]

:cringescene:

[stable musk]

if you had a stroke

i suggest making tooltip less confusing by changing it to just "Able to mine uelibloom ore"

Picksaw said where scoria ore is located, which is good because there is no message hinting about it

But Uelibloom ore location is revealed on providence's death

Making "Able to mine Uelibloom ore located in the jungle" confusing for a newbie

ill send some screenshots

[small timber]

it is not just that

if I am not mistaken uelibloom is not jungle exclusive

for some reason

[ruby plover]

yeah it spawns in mud, not just jungle

though of course its much more common in the jungle

[small timber]

though I think having the tooltip there is still good, there is not much reason to specifically remove it

[small timber]

it is more that there is "no reason to remove it" than there is "reason to remove it"

even if it spawn post-providence only

[stable musk]

Problem is what scoria ore is already generated

making picksaw tooltip helping

But for lunar pickaxe it just says the same like it was already generated

[hollow shell]

Aight, I understand the issue after reading the whole sugg
Didn't realize the problem at first

I suppose not specifying where Ueli will spawn is good for deterring players from looking for it..

[cobalt pewter]

the solution: get rid of Uelibloom

it's a redundant ore

in the biome with the most content in cal already

and Silva is literally Tarragon but fancier

[grave zinc]

@small timber - Your suggestion has received an updated status!

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[hollow shell]

mm status s

[unique vector]

mmmmmm

[inland saddle]

m

[silver silo]

poggers?

[eternal escarp]

nice

[eternal escarp]

oh wow that changed fast

[unique vector]

it was worked on p wuickly beforr it got officially approved

some rrcipes use them now

[half sage]

changed so fast I thought it was repeating the message again

[crude geode]

My favorite thing about this mod is how many jungle sets there are

Say what you want about cold/fire weapons but at least there aren’t 4 nature esque bars related to them

[small timber]

does cold alcohol still not exist? I remember seeing the suggestion in the pass, not sure it got voted up or not

[cobalt pewter]

Uelibloom should just be

rebranded and moved outta jungle

why does Jungle have 4 ores

[crude geode]

perennial and uelibloom should just not

[small timber]

more like why does uelibloom and divine geode exist at the sametime

[cobalt pewter]

perennial is a bit of a weird case

[crude geode]

perennial sucks balls and you know it

[cobalt pewter]

it tries to not be a jungle thing

[small timber]

it is literally the same as cryonic bar and that old cryogen bar

[cobalt pewter]

but it's nature theme

[crude geode]

Regardless of the armor set being changed

[cobalt pewter]

and it's what

[distant gyro]

perennial is flower themed

[crude geode]

So

[cobalt pewter]

still nature

[crude geode]

Nature

🤨

[distant gyro]

is nature exclusive to the jungle

hell, aquatic is nature

[cobalt pewter]

as I said, perennial's a bit of a weird case to me

so Uelibloom imo is a stronger candidate for a rebrand in comparison if it happens

[crude geode]

It feels like splitting hairs at this point

[distant gyro]

also elemental tags are being abolished anyway

[cobalt pewter]

meanwhile evil content stops at early HM

[crude geode]

Indeed

[distant gyro]

cryonic is also not ice themed

it's crystal themed

[cobalt pewter]

so basically all life alloy materials but scoria are dumb

[crude geode]

Indeed

[cobalt pewter]

scoria ore is fine, but hydrothermic armor is ugh

[crude geode]

(Then why does it not generate in the Crystal biome instead of ice)

[distant gyro]

uelibloom i think is fossil themed and is the worst case of themes

[crude geode]

Fossil???

What

[distant gyro]

yeah

[cobalt pewter]

it's fossil?

what?

[crude geode]

I never got that fucking vibe

[cobalt pewter]

shouldn't it be desert then?

wtf

desert literally HAS fossil blocks

[distant gyro]

it's an ancient organic material of sorts

and also tenebris is supposed to... not exist

[cobalt pewter]

also this is a good point

[crude geode]

Tenebris not being herb

[distant gyro]

planty mush is the sole soul of silva

[crude geode]

Indeed

[distant gyro]

tenebris is an imposter

[cobalt pewter]

sus

[distant gyro]

and lumenyl is also a crystal

[cobalt pewter]

[crude geode]

ok looking at the sprite for ueli ore/placed block

ig????

[cobalt pewter]

the equipments do not give the vibe to me

they're just another nature set

[crude geode]

but still like the weapon's theming does not represent a fossilized material yeah

[small timber]

frigid bar and cryonic bar exist at the same time from the same source, frigid bar got removed
living shard and perennial bar exist at the same time from the same source
divine geode and uelibloom bar exist at the same time from the same source

[cobalt pewter]

frigid has a lack of use for sure

[distant gyro]

a lot of these bar weapons are a mold of whatever themes

[cobalt pewter]

it's the main reason the bars are die

[crude geode]

perennial bar also exists right after chloro, and right in the middle of events/dungeon happening

which is why I hate it

[distant gyro]

i think frigid is just outed because they're both bars

same for enchanted metal

[cobalt pewter]

enchanted metal

the funny

[small timber]

ya frigid and cryonic is literally two bar at the exact same progression

[half sage]

enchanted metal, for when you're too lazy to craft mech summons so you buy a random bloat material to craft them

[small timber]

living shard and perennial being separated I can see, but divine geode and uelibloom is more of a stretch (both are "hard" material)

[half sage]

[distant gyro]

anyways

items themes go do whatever

[half sage]

(not to your comment, to the scam getting insta deleted)

[crude geode]

personally would love if both ueli and perennial were obliterated from existence tbfh

[distant gyro]

reminder that cryonic bar items somehow associate with light and dark

for reasons no one will ever know

[small timber]

and spawn from an ice theme enemy

at least it fits WoF

[crude geode]

cryonic just needs to uh

naturally spawn in hallow instead

[distant gyro]

abyssal warhammer, shadecrystal barrage, darklight greatsword, starnight lance

or whatevrr

[crude geode]

indeed

[cobalt pewter]

fun y old content

[crude geode]

scoria is kinda neat in comparison because it's slightly more unique than "theme but slightly varied from generic overplayed one"
flames but it's underwater geysers
ice but it's crystals
plant stuff but it's flowers specifically

[distant gyro]

the main dilemma is that

chlorophyte is worse imo

i think like

even thomas agreed that chlorophyte is worse

[crude geode]

arguably worse with the hm rework making hallowed post 3 mechs

[distant gyro]

it's like bad in every aspect from how you use it to mold into other bars

to the fact that you need 6 whole ores to make one

and now it's being placed in the same progression as hallowed bars

[crude geode]

literally just increase it's growth rate to fix this problem, so that farms are more viable

byeah it's just in a extremely awkward place of progression

[distant gyro]

and all the items in that set are godawful

except generic bow that has viable damage

[crude geode]

can't you say this about all early hm sets

[small timber]

and make bullets

[distant gyro]

right

and aim assisters

[crude geode]

like there's nothing that makes chlorophyte claymore really stand out but does anything from the early hm ore sets either?

[cobalt pewter]

cal has been messing with vanilla for god knows how much at this point

[distant gyro]

i think the effects added to like

[cobalt pewter]

reworking chloro isn't an option?

[distant gyro]

cobalt and stuff is a bit better

[crude geode]

which devs know of

[small timber]

the only possible one I can see is literally delete perennial and move chlorophyte post plantera if they want to rework it

all other approach will not make much sense

since post mech have hallowed

[distant gyro]

the thomas approach

[crude geode]

perennial does indeed step on chlorophyte tbfh

[cobalt pewter]

make chloro the

life alloy material

poggere

[distant gyro]

completely overhaul chlorophyte and make it post plant

perennial becomes a post-pbg material

[small timber]

and also like all chlorophyte armor sets are post-plantera (except the shitty pure bar one)

[cobalt pewter]

turtle is not

[distant gyro]

unfortunately that constitute a grand scale rework

[small timber]

oh ya turtle

[crude geode]

except the shitty pure bar one
reject 5 helmet armor sets, return to unique class armors

[cobalt pewter]

shroomite and spectre bars derive from chloro tho, for whatever reason

I can see shroom

[crude geode]

adaptability of the material

[cobalt pewter]

but spectre?

[crude geode]

spectre is indeed wack

[distant gyro]

wtf is shroomite

[crude geode]

also can we move cryonic to underground hallow pls n thank you

[cobalt pewter]

shroomite is funny

[distant gyro]

not for as long as hallowed ore exists

[crude geode]

right hallowed ore

[cobalt pewter]

a crabulon upgrade should be added when you gained access to shroomite

[crude geode]

that completely generic fucking set of gear

[cobalt pewter]

mech crab

no aureus is cringe

[crude geode]

me when I sugg the thing but it gets rejected

[small timber]

crabulon and cnidrion upgraded post-scal to serve as optinal final boss like AEW

[crude geode]

hallowed bar set sucks balls. barely represents the hallow in any regard aside from name.

[distant gyro]

is it really generic with valk ray, pwnage, exorcism in that set though

[small timber]

hallowed bar also is unlocked by literally mechs, for some reason

[crude geode]

when it is expanded by cal yeah

but like

vanilla it sucks balls and the weapons don't really resemble the hallow they resemble the mechs

[distant gyro]

yeah but

we already established that hm vanilla is a mess

[crude geode]

rainbow rod is far more hallow than valk ray and it doesn't even use hallowed bars

[cobalt pewter]

rgb hallowed gear?

[small timber]

now cal just also have to somehow fit EoL into the lore when 1.4 comes

[cobalt pewter]

she's provi's cousin

boom

[crude geode]

yeah pretty much

[distant gyro]

hallowed bar is probably more of a noble set than eol rgb go brrr

it's like a kingly attire

[crude geode]

yeah but tbfh I hate that

[small timber]

and somehow make slime god being weaker than slime queen make sense or rework slime god to post-ML

[hollow idol]

weakened god and/or empowered by hallow slime > : /

[crude geode]

(tbfh talking about lore when the whole concept of lore is questionable isn't really a good idea)

[small timber]

or just make slime god get empowered post-ML like astrum aureus

[hollow idol]

balanci

[small timber]

and only drop a pet

[crude geode]

(let's not)

[distant gyro]

no thanks

[crude geode]

also can we make rav just the bloodstone guy instead of three random ass shits

[hollow idol]

queen slime'll probably be in a much lower tier than slime god in boss rush anyways

[crude geode]

Baffles me that calclone and brimmy continue to be associated with bloodstone while ravager is just sitting there as a necrotic pile of stone.

[small timber]

on the topic of 1.4 boss, now calamity also have to somehow rework deerclops to not be dogshit, its difficulty is literally that its attack have no telegraph

[frozen hornet]

what

[crude geode]

when it happens it happens.

leave it alone until then

and let the devs (try and) handle it

[hollow idol]

imo Ravager feels more fitting for Bloodstone than brim and cal ., dude is made of corpses (BLOOD) and has bricks (stone) all over em, brim is fire and stone, cal is yes atm)

[crude geode]

that is indeed the general theming of ravager byet brimmy and cal clone continue to drop bloodstone

[hollow idol]

options ⭐

[crude geode]

fuck options

you don't get options in where you get divine geodes afterall

or most other shit post-ml

[frozen hornet]

I just rewatched the fight again and it telegraphed every attack

what do you mean no telegraph

[small timber]

mainly the hands

and it is the thing that will hit you most often

[frozen hornet]

can't you just slow down

Rev golem has a similar (I guess) attack

The lingering fireballs

[small timber]

the difference is the fireballs is fired from golem so you see it travels, deerclops make it appear in the air

and it can appear when you middash (to dodge other attacks) so slowing down is not always an option

[frozen hornet]

fair

It still looks better than most pre-hm bosses

maybe even some hm ones

[small timber]

ya, just that it is designed... weirdly, other attacks are fine, I don't get why the hands are designed that way

the attack just seems so random compare to their previous 2 boss (EoL and QS)

[frozen hornet]

I see it as a way to make the player slow down

[fossil finch]

Ya'll are too boring
Cryonic should just be leftovers of daedalous' old machines, perennial should literally just be chloro and uelibloom ?????

[crude geode]

Who the fuck is Daedalus the only inventor I know is John Wulfrum

[fossil finch]

daedalous is implied to still exist and be the cause of tundra on draedon's ice logs and perma's dialogue

it could be renamed to whatever byeah

[crude geode]

I’d prefer hallow getting some actual content ngl

[fossil finch]

The other option i see would be making cryonic cryo's remnants

An ore isn't giving a biome actual content, no

[crude geode]

Ok

[eternal escarp]

the age old ravager suggestion

[crude geode]

Indeed

Hopefully this time it gets to dev

[eternal escarp]

yeah

maybe with the new system

[fossil finch]

It already got to dev once

Was denied

[small timber]

I mean they have to completely rebalance ravager if it is post provi only

currently it is not even very balance

[fossil finch]

????

It is balanced like

Ok

Rav's already got the ability to deny your wings from existence so mobility is barely a problem

[crude geode]

I don’t recall it ever getting to dev, I assume you have a link

[fossil finch]

His post provi health buffs should be good

Mmm, true, i don't seem to be able to find it now
Must've confused with another sugg or smt

[crude geode]

Must be

Byeah ravager is fine for a post ml boss

[eternal escarp]

yeah tbh, to balance rav to post provi is rather not as big of a hassle as thought

honestly itd make his wing-nullifying gimmick more unique

[crude geode]

I’d argue he’s better in that position cuz he throws a ton of shit at you

and like it’s not like Duke or Plague where it’s spaced out he just kinda spams stuff at you

But that’s leaning into my personal gripes bout his fight

Oh no!

Anyways, onto non niche concepts

[fossil finch]

Low would literally not get changed

You'd just fight rav later

[stiff wren]

this will affect the trout population i think

[stable musk]

"calamitous beings were blessed with bloodstone"

calamitous beings

[exotic stag]

and also rav is a good farm for bars/cores

[cobalt pewter]

who the fuck cares about chat notification? you can change that easier than the suggestion

literally just change a string variable

[fleet igloo]

Ok this is surpisingly good

oh hey if this is done Catastrophes before the Calamity will have only post-ML leitmotifs; seems to fit more considering Ravager is no longer the penultimate boss before ML?

So will they also remove ruinous souls from bloodflare

[frozen hornet]

Why though

Would be funky if you get tarra and immediately get bloodflare after one boss

[fleet igloo]

Locking bloodflare behind two bosses is uh

Also tarra could be an alternative to bloodflare instead

Also you could technically get brimflame and immediately get reaver after one boss

I was actually thinking more of a brimflame/reaver situation

[frozen hornet]

Reaver is all class so troll

[frozen hornet]

Like GS/Silva?

I'd like that actually

Though it would make auric need a unique set bonus even more

[gray nebula]

yes!!!

YES!!!!

make it happen for every single 5 class helmet armor set!!!!!

Make it happen harder than silva/godslayer don't even just split it in half, make unique armors for all the classes

[cobalt pewter]

so true bestie

that should be the standard

in a sense, Chlorophyte already kinda does this, though with extra steps

turtle, shroomite and spectre are class armors deriving from Chlorophyte

same tier except for turtle, which is a step before

[gray nebula]

yeah

i mean vanilla does it always

minus the early hm ore sets

[cobalt pewter]

that one's funny

[gray nebula]

(and even then summoner got trolled until recently)

[cobalt pewter]

(they're still partially trolled because onyl hallowed got a summon helm)

[gray nebula]

but yeah imo its a lot less awesome to have the final armor be just auric where its the same for every class and its just a lot of already seen partially underwhelming set bonuses all frankensteined together

compared to the unique stuff from vanilla's lunar armors

[cobalt pewter]

GOD SO TRUE!

AURIC

I think I've talked about how shit auric is conceptually more than I should

beyond the fact that it's a cookie cutter 5head set, it really do be like everything is Frankenstein-ed with glue

[eternal escarp]

the general lack of class specific armors in post ML is

sad

Lunar and Prismatic (dono saviour)

[gray nebula]

but yes dw oomfies we area ware of the problem

[cobalt pewter]

Empyrean is post ML by sheer technicality, but even then it's super bland compared to other lunar armors

[eternal escarp]

tbf i personally call Emyprean "lunar" since its rather made the same way

[cobalt pewter]

well what do you use to craft lunar armors

[frozen hornet]

there was this

Seems to be stuck hanging though

[cobalt pewter]

exactly

[gray nebula]

blah blah blah too much text didn't read

xd..

[cobalt pewter]

I think I proposed a funny about

[frozen hornet]

fair...

[eternal escarp]

a pillar related drop and luminite iirc

[cobalt pewter]

Umbraphile armor upgrade for darksun

surprised that never happened yet

[frozen hornet]

Gwyndolin armor no way....

[frozen hornet]

(the sugg is basically armor made from sussy and succy's drops kinda like stormy's prismatic armor)

even though prismatic is donor

[cobalt pewter]

the solution is clearly to donate to make these items

oh wait

[frozen hornet]

Trolla

[gentle fog]

I love that ravager suggestion

especially since ravager is really easy to forget about in normal progression

[tardy geyser]

thoughts on scal and exos dropping a rage and adrenaline upgrade? or should there only be one of each post ml?

[cobalt pewter]

the rest has been that way I presume yea

1 rage and adren upgrade for each third of cal's progression

[tardy geyser]

ye, and they usually arnt on the same tier

[cobalt pewter]

phm has crab for rage and sg for adren
hm has rav for rage and oreos for adren
pml has folly for rage and polter for adren

wait final rage upgrade is from folly right?

[tardy geyser]

yeah

i just think rage and adrenaline fit scal and exos themes well and a 4th upgrade could also round out odd numbers in the adrenaline boost stats

[small timber]

there is no one to use the rage and adrenaline on

until they add future bosses there is really no point in doing that

[tardy geyser]

theres aew and boss rush, other than that i see your point

until yharim and the other superbosses are added they wouldnt be too useful

[unique vector]

suggs disc popped off today

zamn!

[dusty stirrup]

Uelibloom my beloathed

[cobalt pewter]

soo true

[crude geode]

tbfh I personally think this can apply to almost every conversation in this channel, similar to Rover's quote being applicable to every calamity mod player

[stiff wren]

how many days do we have left before "add more uses for wulfrum scraps" gets added to the donts list

[crude geode]

bruh there's like 3 suggestions about it

[stiff wren]

thought it was more than 3

[eternal escarp]

plus frequently asked != a dont

[crude geode]

technically it might, depending on how frequently

cuz there is a frequently suggested section that counts as a "don't suggest these"

[eternal escarp]

to be fair some of those are like

things that are somewhat planned / happaned

like, plague structure (drae jungle lab

[crude geode]

Indeed

almost like it should be updated

[eternal escarp]

true

[round ravine]

Is that supposed to be a hamburger?

[exotic stag]

no

[buoyant sphinx]

Scorpio..can be made from mythril anvil which means is a post-plantera weapon. Why?

[ashen warren]

no it cant

[buoyant sphinx]

What ‘bout beating the Deus instead

[ashen warren]

post cultist

and even if you could kill deus before cultist youd then be post deus, not plantera

[buoyant sphinx]

I see

But yeah it’s post deus instead of cultist

Kinda inconsistent

[ashen warren]

no its post cultist

lo

its tier lock is vortex fragments

[distant gyro]

that sounds unintended

[buoyant sphinx]

Yup Just got one before cultist

[ashen warren]

..how

[buoyant sphinx]

Beat deus w/ fallen paladin hammer

Got fragment

[ashen warren]

and how did you spawn deus without killing the cultist

oh what you can spawn it pre cultist now

[cobalt pewter]

you can

[buoyant sphinx]

The beacon..

[cobalt pewter]

Astral Beacon + Titan Hearts

you can spawn them anytime in HM now

[buoyant sphinx]

Isn’t it HM

[half sage]

yea it's just HM, the message after cultist just means atlas spawnrates get increased iirc

so you can get hearts easier

[violet dagger]

iirc some bosses have the health bar gain a red glow when enraged

so that could try to be used here

[ruby plover]

There could also be an indicator on the boss itself, I had this idea the other day too

Like some shield icon when they gain huge amounts of defence or smthn

[small timber]

sorry for late reply, only very few bosses actually have invincible as their enrage noqw

to my knowledge only plantera and providence (and skeletron if you count it)

so I think a special effect so some cases like these is still applicable

[ruby plover]

Some bosses go invincible outside of enrage

Like either one of the twins if one reaches phase 2 before the other, or hive mind if any dank creepers are alive in phase 1

Oops I didn’t read, you mentioned the twins

[small timber]

does hive mind still invincible with dank creepers? I thought it was removed

he only have slightly increased defense or something

oh ok, it still does, I will mention it

[ruby plover]

yeah, i think with hive mind especially its kinda random that it does that and a normal player may not make the connection

though of course the dank creepers do have a high incentive to kill, with their highly aggresive AI

oh btw, though its quite an insignificant thing when reading your sugg, hive mind only becomes invulnerable when dank creepers are alive in phase 1

[small timber]

oh no wonder I dont notice it since you always kill adds first in phase 1

[exotic stag]

woah woah woah @tardy harness thats uh

4 things in 1 sugg

[cobalt pewter]

what

[exotic stag]

four different things

[cobalt pewter]

just say

[exotic stag]

with four different explanations

[cobalt pewter]

rework Cnidrion

lol

[exotic stag]

^

yeah dont need to title stretch

[tardy harness]

Cnidrion has problems idk

[exotic stag]

cnidirion doesnt really

[cobalt pewter]

plus the 4th point is plain dumb

[exotic stag]

hes meant to be that early game obstacle.

[cobalt pewter]

Cnidrion already has a long ass delay between bursts of shots

[exotic stag]

^

making them faster is even worse because rn they can be outsped iirc

which is what your meant to do

outspeed to go over the projectiles then shoot cnid down

[gray nebula]

🛠️

[fossil finch]

Certified, then

[unique vector]

🛠️

there was already an earlier suggestion like this iirc

im judt gonna mark it with a blue check once it passes

[gray nebula]

epic

[crude geode]

Truly

[half sage]

ore armors are already planned to get rogue and summoner helmets

[unique vector]

so epic

[opaque gate]

lets gooo

[river glen]

epic

[small timber]

Is it even possible to increase biome height range during boss fight only?

I thought the only thing they can do is just reduce biome block count so that it is easier for it to be considered as a bione

The better alternative is probably just make these boss enrage slower

(when out of biome)

[lapis canyon]

not sure if its a vanilla or cal change, but eow and brain just slaps the bg no matter

[small timber]

Ya then I am not sure,probably wait for someone familiar with the code to answer

[frail mortar]

I feel like a way around this would be to make the clentaminator either craftable or become available to buy near the start of the game for a much lesser price

It would allow players to extend the biome easily

[unique vector]

(the suggestion is abt the vertical space)

[frail mortar]

Ye

You can extend the biome vertically with walls and then using a clentaminator to make it a natural wall

I had to do this with dragonfolly and yharon on one playthrough

You kind of have to artificially extend the biome vertically

[unique vector]

yea but isnt the whole point of the suggestion to lessen the need to do that in the first place

[frail mortar]

Ye

[small timber]

The main thing is it is unrealistic to clear that much space in a normal playthrough environment, especially evil biome (you have to do it with bomb)

Unless you are willing to spend an hour building the arena

[frail mortar]

It would make sense to either raise the biome's vertical area or make the clentaminator available at an early stage

Via crafting or otherwise

Or both

Both would be nice

XD

[small timber]

(or just remove hard biome enrage why does it need to exist)

[unique vector]

because vanilla rules

fuck you

(mainly to prevent world bounded arenas)

unintentionally large arenas would trivialize bosses

esp earlier in the game

[small timber]

Ya kinda, then at that point the least is to make biome enrage take longer, like 10sec

Main point is to keep player in biome anyway,if they exploit returning to biome every 9 sec then it is on them (just build world size biome correct arena at that point)

5 second is improvement on previous immediate enrage,but still a bit too short

[unique vector]

idk i think its fine personally

if ur out of the biome for like more than 6-7 seconds what are u doing lol

wow this chat rlly is on a boss sugg spree

[small timber]

5 second put a strain on "oh you fly too high return to the biome NOW", 10 sec is you can fight normally as long as you return to biome later, at least in my opinion