İ would be cool with calamity breaking worldgen again and making the world wider to add something to the main ocean
#suggestions-discussion
safe oasis
lame
spare prawn
Probably the most boring biome after the forest/purity biome. Which is fine with it being boring because thats just the generic starting biome
safe oasis
if giving it a shrine would solve its problem, then the easy source of water chests should be plenty
they're awesome early game
spare prawn
Hmmm
What if
.Ocean biome chest wth an all class item
İnstead of a shrine
Similar to the astral chest
spare prawn
¯_(ツ)_/¯
gray nebula
squixed
dusty stirrup
spare prawn
is gods paranoia actually any good?
rose latch
knives dont have an auric tier either
and there are way more of those than spiky balls
trail fiber
it remind me to the pearl wood armor and weapons set, its usseles, only exist because all the types off wood have one
exotic stag
uh no
because its wood
you should be able to craft stuff WITH wood
(Thats just like saying "give spooky wood a sword bow and hammer")
ashen warren
what if holy ray magic weapon
exotic stag
what if: no
ashen warren
why
ruby plover
ashen warren
dam..
orchid turtle
I thought I’d put it here instead of a normal suggestion because of how small it is, but the pulse pistol can’t be used with the mana overloader because it has no mana cost. So I say it should cost a small amount of mana to cast.
ashen warren
what about a peace of dogs armour that can shoot lazers and ram tings
crude geode
I thought I’d put it here instead of a normal suggestion because of how small it...
Pulse pistol is like 3 tiers outdated at that point.
orchid turtle
Bro I used that to beat mech bosses
exotic stag
I thought I’d put it here instead of a normal suggestion because of how small it...
thats uh
exotic stag
yes
orchid turtle
It’s really good, but the mana overloader means that it gives no healing even though I have almost no mana after using other weapons.
It shreds wall of flesh and tears through skeleton prime limbs
It’s a great magic weapon, I just feel that the mana overloader in general should react to magic attacks.
ruby plover
if the accessory only doesn't activate it's effect for one specific weapon tho
orchid turtle
It might in the future though
I’m saying that a magic weapon that costs no mana can’t activate the effect
Even if you have low mana
crude geode
I mean that’s kinda the point ngl
So you don’t just empty your mana and spam spectre healing for the low low cost of a accessory slot
orchid turtle
Yeah but the healings value is already questionable. You have to be close to a boss which is already the opposite of where a mage wants to be. It seems like a weird exception on an already questionably useful accessory.
ruby plover
"you have to be close to a boss", true but it's the only lifesteal for mage you have at that stage, and in a way risking damage is being rewarded by healing damage
orchid turtle
If nothing else the description of the item should reflect that mana needs to be spent. I tested for 30 minutes to see why the healing hadn’t started working.
ruby plover
why would it need a clarification when it only affects 1 weapon
ashen warren
*mana polarizer
orchid turtle
Do no other magic weapons have no mana cost?
ruby plover
not that i know of...?
crude geode
It’s extremely rare
because it’s kinda the fuckin point of mage
Otherwise you’re just Ranger with weirder projectiles
ruby plover
and by the point that you might have another mage weap that doesnt use mana (if another exists), mana polariser would be irrelevant
ashen warren
otherwise youd play melee
orchid turtle
Just seemed like a weird exception that confused the hell out of me
ashen warren
i mean it doesn't sound that hard to figure out why it wasnt working
sleek wadi
It could use a mana cost of 1 or something
ruby plover
yeah, i feel like the better way of fixing this issue is making pulse pistol cost mana
sleek wadi
Practically free, just consumes mana for the purposes of accessory effects
orchid turtle
That’s what I said to begin with
ruby plover
oh okay
orchid turtle
It’s the only weapon like that. It’s cool to have a side weapon to use while mana is charging, but if that’s your main weapon against a boss it can screw you.
It took me like 5 wall of flesh attempts to realize what was going on.
Again, small issue, but I feel like it could be easily changed by the gun costing 2 mana to shoot.
Also whoever said it was outclassed by the time you get mana polarizer, you need to use it more often. It tears through the wall of flesh while killing the hungry, and has utility for mech bosses because of the damage boost to inorganics.
crude geode
I would but my ears bleed whenever I use it
Also other weapons like black anurian exist
real steppe
Ah, the irony that the suggestion that recommends to reduce the amount of stars needed for it to pass isn't making it out (yet)
Why was it raised to 270 in the first place?
crude geode
to counteract the star flood that was expected to happen with Draedon update
crude geode
Little did we know it would actually be a drought, not a flood
fossil finch
technically the flood was of suggestions
reason there is not as many stars is because suggs get buried faster
real steppe
Even then, I already thought that 200 is enough
From my experience, only suggestions that are unanimously or near-unanimously accepted get sent to the dev server anyway
But I hsve no data to back it up, pure anecdote lol, so don't take me seriously at all
hollow shell
In the weeks leading up to 1.5's release, around half of all suggestions were reaching the 200 star requirement
when ideally it'd be around 20% of all suggs
And we expected a lot more server activity and therefore a lot more people starring suggestions once 1.5 released
So we raised it a good deal pre-emptively. 270 would've placed us at the 20% delivery rate that we desired, if the trends from the weeks prior had continued
But
yeah basically the opposite thing happened
And right now we're having active discussions about suggestions and the suggestion bot in the dev server, so don't worry, change will be coming soon
obsidian cove
@rain dawn pretty sure that’s a don’t
rain dawn
Dang
trail fiber
the yharim's army sounds great, but probably its a lot of work
rain dawn
guess just a new event for post-moonlord
violet dagger
obsidian cove
Yeah another event is under to high effort
hollow shell
Yharim's Army is already planned
for the relatively distant future
trail fiber
Ö
hollow shell
And yeah no suggesting new events, cuz that's big effort
trail fiber
Yharim's Army is already planned
for the relatively distant future
well, that's a win
hollow shell
(no that would be Yharon's Army 
)
trail fiber
cobalt pewter
@vestal ibex unfortunately more spiky balls might not happen
trust me, I tried pushing exo balls for as hard as I could
small timber
Since no one mentioned it... Bot seem to had died again
orchid turtle
Wait, a bot puts suggestions into the voting area?
Well now that I look it’s obvious
fossil finch
damn i wonder
exotic stag
(they used to be underground desert exclusive. but now not)
fossil finch
exotic stag
(so reverting update change..)
trail fiber
cnidrion isn't that bad
fossil finch
They're aren't even that annoying or common tbh
orchid turtle
Let me just say that it took me 30 minutes of attempts to cross the world so I could do my friend playing the sulphurous sea for the first time.
fossil finch
I haven't had much issues with them
orchid turtle
If a desert is big one will spawn
trail fiber
probably only bad luck
exotic stag
i havent had any issues. i just make a climbable wall and jump over
fossil finch
That's not really a good measure because it's just one personal experience so like,
orchid turtle
And with no cloud or blizzard in a bottle their attacks are unavoidable unless your out of range.
exotic stag
they are avoidable wym
violet dagger
maybe decrease spawn chances until first boss dies
they can be very annoying exploring the underground desert imo
orchid turtle
They become a nothing enemy with any gear at all, but exploring a world at the start is so annoying if they get in your way.
violet dagger
they don't even drop anything good anymore
exotic stag
they really arent that bad though
violet dagger
imo they should drop more stuff after ds
fossil finch
They have plans for them regarding their usefulness
orchid turtle
Without a double jump their water blasts are unavoidable.
exotic stag
no they sure are
trail fiber
imo they should drop more stuff after ds
maybe
orchid turtle
With no gear?
exotic stag
yep
orchid turtle
How do you do that when they spawn in front of you on the surface
exotic stag
all you need is like an early game aglet which is really easy
early game aglet and some blocks
orchid turtle
Some people don’t like trashing their world with dirt structures to cross a desert
deft yew
why not just
orchid turtle
Not only that but they phase through blocks
deft yew
get to the root of the problem
slap amidias's spark on stormlions or smth
remove cnidrion
freaking irritating and useless enemy
trail fiber
Some people don’t like trashing their world with dirt structures to cross a dese...
dude, it's only a dirt bridge, isn't really big so you can take it off later
deft yew
cragmaw mire and sea floaty are both getting un-memed next patch
orchid turtle
If they dropped victory shards I would have no issue
exotic stag
Some people don’t like trashing their world with dirt structures to cross a dese...
then remove em when you get stronger
exotic stag
Not only that but they phase through blocks
just place a wall and wait. then jump over them
orchid turtle
But they are annoying to fight at the start, can kill you quickly, and drop nothing useful
exotic stag
boom bada BOOM
exotic stag
But they are annoying to fight at the start, can kill you quickly, and drop noth...
"amidias spark:"
small timber
With 100 hp and 0 gear cnidrion spawning in front of your face is irritating
orchid turtle
Most underwhelming accessory in the game
trail fiber
But they are annoying to fight at the start, can kill you quickly, and drop noth...
probably only in the first 3 hours
fossil finch
They have plans for them regarding their usefulness
Corite i will KILL you
small timber
You basically just cross the desert hoping it just dont spawn
orchid turtle
Cool that antlion guard that was already half dead will die after they hit me.
fossil finch
Why are you crossing the desert with 0 gear doe
orchid turtle
Yo get sulphurous sea fishing loot
exotic stag
okay but sliec
slice.
im hating to say this but
you have a genuine
skill issue with them.
small timber
And in death mode if your otherside is corruption you basically just dig underground
kindred relic
simply go to the nearby cave system when starting
exotic stag
there.
kindred relic
if you dont have one then get a better seed
exotic stag
just get 5 bars a lead. some wood. and jump over the darn cnidirions
fossil finch
Yo get sulphurous sea fishing loot
That's your problem imo
You shouldn't be doing that either with zero gear either
fossil finch
You can sure... and that's why the bridging or tunneling options exist
small timber
Putting them underground will be an issue because cnidrion has block phasing
trail fiber
That's your problem imo
yes, it's like someone ask to nerf duke fishrone, but he is fighting him pre plantera
exotic stag
Putting them underground will be an issue because cnidrion has block phasing
and is very hard to see
small timber
I will argue no spawn/lower spawn rate before DS will make more sense
orchid turtle
I think that having 2 spawn while I walk across a desert is to common
small timber
Since if you can deal with ds you defintlitely can deal with cnidrion (so we can finally buff cnidrion)
exotic stag
an XL one?
orchid turtle
Large
exotic stag
because i hardly encounter 5 before im done with brain
orchid turtle
I’ve encountered at least ten and beaten no bosses on that world yet
exotic stag
then your being VERY slow on your world
orchid turtle
Other mini boss enemies I haven’t encountered nearly as often
Cnidrions are much more common then other mini bosses
For seemingly no reason
dense ferry
I just want to say that I read your sugg as "Lower Children spawn chance"
exotic stag
LO
exotic stag
Other mini boss enemies I haven’t encountered nearly as often
they arent even
small timber
Cnidrion spawnrate is just extremely random, sometimes it spawn as soon as you step into desert and sometimes you dont see him until hardmode
orchid turtle
Then an elite enemy or something. I encounter more Cnidrions then I encounter perforator cysts.
They are so common
exotic stag
they are just called "rare enemies"
trail fiber
They are so common
you only have bad luck
small timber
I still think you can keep the part about lowering spawnrate (ideally before DS only so Cnidrion dont go extinct), but underground desert part probably dont work
orchid turtle
Was it mentioned why they don’t drop victory shards anymore?
trail fiber
but i think, why cnidrion still exist if they don't drop anything really usefull now?
small timber
There are reason why mantis shrimp dont spawn on pre-HM, it is not necessary hard to deal with
exotic stag
they drop amidias spark
orchid turtle
Because I wouldn’t mind killing all the ones that get in my way if a sub par accessory wasn’t the only reward
Again sub par
exotic stag
Again sub par
its upgradable
orchid turtle
It’s not
exotic stag
and its very god vs DS
orchid turtle
It does more damage in hard mode
trail fiber
they drop amidias spark
yes, but is not really usefull, if you have it, great, but if you don't, it doesn't matter
small timber
They want victory shard/victide to be behind bosses only basically
small timber
Ya you slap it on if you dont have good acces, you take it off when you have better
orchid turtle
I’d rather not take the time to kill them
small timber
The only problem I see is just when you have 100 hp wooden bow and a cnidrion stand in front of you, any other point it really is not a problem
trail fiber
for me it's nothing, normally i encounter him at HM
orchid turtle
Maybe if spark was part of the recipe of a batter accessory
exotic stag
(literally its good at killing DS which gets you victide. there. you happy?)
orchid turtle
Because the effect does not warrant an accessory slot on its own
exotic stag
it does vs DS which unlocks you victide which unlocks you like
orchid turtle
Again so are many other things
exotic stag
the rest of PHM
exotic stag
yeah because warding shackles give you like 5 defense
kindred relic
(even more in .004 
)
exotic stag
(what? in phm?)
small timber
What if: Lower all rare enemy spwanrate before 200hp
fossil finch
They have plans for them regarding their usefulness
Recordatory for the yes time
exotic stag
What if: Lower all rare enemy spwanrate before 200hp
no
because then you wont get pinky or y'know
orchid turtle
This has changed more to make Cnidrions better at this point
exotic stag
other rare useful enemies
small timber
Oh ya I forgot piggy is rare
orchid turtle
Like seriously let spark be rolled into a late game accessory, and I wouldn’t mind them at all
Ike maybe the absorber
small timber
They have plans for them regarding their usefulness
^ so probably best not argue his drop tbh
exotic stag
iirc spark used to be part of absorber but was removed
orchid turtle
Honestly the amalgam fits it better
small timber
Amalgam is pure expert drop now
orchid turtle
Yeah but it would fit since it also has shade rain
exotic stag
(honestly just combine all the "on hit summons/drops stuff around you" accessories into one)
exotic stag
(also can i bring up the sugg about "making levi + ana spawn faster")
exotic stag
(also can i bring up the sugg about "making levi + ana spawn faster")
(or some like that)
orchid turtle
Honestly just put it in something
exotic stag
(also can i bring up the sugg about "making levi + ana spawn faster")
yes thas literally the ???'s notes
fossil finch
Throwing spark into a random acc doesn't solve anything
orchid turtle
I’d rather a more useful combination accessory sit unused in my storage system then spark
fossil finch
:youarethefailure:
orchid turtle
Also my suggestion kinda changed more into a rag on how useless the Cnidrion is as an enemy.
trail fiber
(also can i bring up the sugg about "making levi + ana spawn faster")
it's rare because one time it appears to me while i was trying to get in the abyss
so i spawn anahita accidentaly in the abyss xd
yeah thats not rare
small timber
I still think you can keep the part about lowering spawnrate (ideally before DS ...
^
orchid turtle
Throwing spark into a random acc doesn't solve anything
If it’s accessory could be passed into something else it would maintain usefulness outside of being better then the stupid vine book. Because that’s all it has going for it.
small timber
Just dont care about his drop first since your suggestion is on cnidrion spawn being annoying early game
fossil finch
That's not how usefulness works
exotic stag
usefulness only works on how useful the accessory is currently. and if it can be useful later
"does the item have a good crafting item later? yes? then its probably useful later so keep it."
"Does the item have use right now? yes? Keep it."
orchid turtle
I use spark until I have any accessory slot that isn’t actually useless is filled
fossil finch
A random acc requiring another random acc isn't making it useful
It's making it one in a chungus list of tasks to get something you want
exotic stag
remember: spark vs KS and DS are useful.
orchid turtle
If it had use later I’d actually kill cnidrions and wouldn’t be so bitter that they keep spawning
trail fiber
remember: spark vs KS and DS are useful.
who's the first boss that you're saying?
orchid turtle
I’d be happy to kill them
exotic stag
who's the first boss that you're saying?
king slime.
trail fiber
oh, ok
orchid turtle
I guess it’s fine when you have no other accessory to go in a slot
exotic stag
or: when your fighting DS/KS. exploring. or need to take out a crowd below
orchid turtle
Again, so many things shred those bosses
orchid turtle
I’ll delete the suggestion, since the point has changed so much, but tldr make the cnidrion have actual purpose.
trail fiber
well, if isn't useful just don't kill cnidrion
unique vector
thinking of ways to make him better
exotic stag
(other tldr: cnidirion has a use. you just gotta find it)
fossil finch
They have plans for them regarding their usefulness
Anyways pipis
unique vector
feel free to suggest changes to him tho maybe we'll uh take inspriation from sugs
orchid turtle
(other tldr: cnidirion has a use. you just gotta find it)
Also see, jester arrows, vilethorn, any piercing weapon in the game.
fossil finch
(This is what we have been told by other devs how do you dare contradict the clear words of plans existing to "we're thinking of plans"
Crying
exotic stag
Also see, jester arrows, vilethorn, any piercing weapon in the game.
Vilethorn: Requires bombs to obtain or whatever else the pickaxe requirement is.
Jester arrows: NOT unlimited.
Also vilethorn: Requires mana
Also the other piercing weapons? Rogue has like a few. summoner im not even sure other then cringelion. melee?? i dont think theres any
trail fiber
feel free to suggest changes to him tho maybe we'll uh take inspriation from sug...
this discussion has no point
exotic stag
(you'd have to: make it to the corruption. actually HAVE corruption. and survive falling down the pit with nothing)
orchid turtle
You also spawn with rope
trail fiber
however yea avoid cyclical discussions
yes, i refeer to that
why still arguing? (i'm not sure if i write right that word)
orchid turtle
I will die on this hill, but I will stop arguing, mostly because I’m going to eat food now
cobalt pewter
nohitting dog (cringe)
small timber
normally I would say yes but I get so used to bashing his head now I will say no
if something it should be malice, though it will make malice ultra bullshit due to random speedup
cobalt pewter
instakill isn't unique and fun
cobalt pewter
besides, the head just depleting defense on hit serves more than enough to replicate the effect
small timber
because currently dog head hit less than yharon charge
cobalt pewter
puts you in a big pinch for follow up attacks while not immediately fucking you over from just a hit
kinda like dog chewing off your armor in a sense
plus DoG's AI as it is needs to be expanded
the boss is less the worm and more lasers and the stupid guardians
small timber
malice EoW is more DoG than DoG
solar kayak
jagged spade
why readd it several updates later
plus that wont change the fact that the fight is just boring in general
solar kayak
No, it really isn’t tho. Well now you can make that argument cause it doesn’t matter, but there was a genuine threat in Death Mode.
jagged spade
No, it really isn’t tho. Well now you can make that argument cause it doesn’t ma...
there was no threat it was just annoying
solar kayak
Uh no, he killed you in one hit. That was the threat lol. Me and many other players enjoyed the fight for that reason
The thrill of avoiding the head when he's rushing at you
Etc
jagged spade
The thrill of avoiding the head when he's rushing at you
there's still the thrill
you can die easily
solar kayak
Nah, I see people commenting that malice mode DOG is a joke etc. "doesn’t even kill you in one hit lololol"
I don’t see why removing what the fight was designed around, is a good thing
jagged spade
Nah, I see people commenting that malice mode DOG is a joke etc. "doesn’t even k...
you shouldve asked to move that to malice then
tacit tide
but malice doesnt change stats
solar kayak
I’m just making a point cause people mentioned it in DMode malice
Which is the ultimate challenge in a sense
trail fiber
but malice doesnt change stats
well, increase the velocity, that counts
solar kayak
I’m arguing that it shouldn’t have been removed at all, it was fine as is
I loved the fight how it was before
tacit tide
well, increase the velocity, that counts
ye that but nothing damage or health or dr or defence
solar kayak
And they could’ve improved it by adding different patterns to watch out for, or made him even more fast and aggressive
trail fiber
ye that but nothing damage or health or dr or defence
except for provi i guess
tacit tide
except for provi i guess
wht
solar kayak
you can die easily
And no. The main reason people die is from the Insta kill head. It is the great equaliser. Regardless of your DR, Defense, Shadow Dodge, Health, you will always die if you get hit by it. That's what made it scary. It was an imminent threat. Without it, at that stage of the game, you can tank a few hits. It’s no different to Revengeance.
trail fiber
well, there's a lot of people that doesn't like it, maybe was the main reason for that change
solar kayak
I just want the devs to be confident with their prior decisions, keeping modes challenging, and not shifting the difficulty between things.
solar kayak
well, there's a lot of people that doesn't like it, maybe was the main reason fo...
That’s irrelevant. Don’t play on Death mode then
Play Revengeance
Also, the fight is literally designed around the head
It’s not an argument
solar kayak
The head is the weakness, so you are meant to effectively dance with death and chase the head to deal the most damage, but at the same time you have to be weary of the head itself as it can kill you in one hit; great equaliser.
trail fiber
the weakness is also the tail
solar kayak
your unique argument it's because you enjoy the fight, it's ver subjetive
Everything is subjective in life bro. The nature of criticism is subjective. You obviously can’t please everyone, but I argue, don’t even play that mode then if you dislike the difficulty.
I just explained what made the fight so great for me and many others.
solar kayak
the weakness is also the tail
Takes less damage than the head
tacit tide
The head is the weakness, so you are meant to effectively dance with death and c...
but how can you dance with the head if DoG just tries to hit you once and goes then into blue sky phase?
solar kayak
Plus you rarely get to hit the tail lol
tacit tide
Plus you rarely get to hit the tail lol
„rarely“
solar kayak
but how can you dance with the head if DoG just tries to hit you once and goes t...
What? It's a figurative statement. It refers to being very close to the head, as if you're teetering between life and death, because one hit from the head can kill you.
tacit tide
What? It's a figurative statement. It refers to being very close to the head, as...
why dont you just attack the tail? its easier to hit
solar kayak
„rarely“
Yes, because he moves rather quickly, and his head is usually circling back to chase you.
solar kayak
why dont you just attack the tail? its easier to hit
But it isn’t
trail fiber
Everything is subjective in life bro. The nature of criticism is subjective. You...
still exist armaggedon if you want, i know that this is for al damage, but most of his attacks can be dodge easly
tacit tide
But it isn’t
it is its much more predictible then the head
solar kayak
still exist armaggedon if you want, i know that this is for al damage, but most ...
Armageddon is artificial difficulty. I’m saying the fight is designed around the head killing you in one hit, not every single conceivable hit box lol
trail fiber
anyway, there's no way that the devs consider that suggestion, did you read the things that you shouldn't suggest?
solar kayak
it is its much more predictible then the head
Bro you are just saying shit without any substance. The tail isn’t easier to hit DOG's head is usually circling back. You can’t reliably follow the tail aside from certain instances. Especially in phase two when he starts to teleport
solar kayak
anyway, there's no way that the devs consider that suggestion, did you read the ...
I just asking to change the head back to what it was before.
They can take it or leave it, idrc. I haven’t even updated the mod to the latest actually
Cause I’m doing BR
Might stay that way if things don’t change soon tho 😵
tacit tide
Bro you are just saying shit without any substance. The tail isn’t easier to hit...
then just dodge the head. you can follow the tail easily because you know where it will be next. also head is the same speed as tail
trail fiber
I just asking to change the head back to what it was before.
exactly, anything that was removed from the mod has no possibility of returning
solar kayak
then just dodge the head. you can follow the tail easily because you know where ...
Why not just hit the head, and make your life easier? Either way, you're engaging with the head whether you like it or not. Something tells me you haven’t fought DOG before in Deathmode
Given these ignorant comments lmao
tacit tide
what
solar kayak
Did I stutter?
tacit tide
what is wrong with you. i just want to say something about your suggestion and youre just being mean
trail fiber
he gets cocky xdxdxd
solar kayak
What I’m saying is that the head is always going to follow the player, and so the player in encouraged to engage with the head.
solar kayak
what is wrong with you. i just want to say something about your suggestion and y...
And I’m saying that you're not really adding anything to the discussion. You're just making ignorant assertions about the fight that won’t work
trail fiber
if it's easier for you go to the head, great, but each person have his way to play so it's ok
solar kayak
Yeah I agree
unborn siren
one of the suggestion dont's is:
- Any suggestions involving re-adding removed features or sprites
solar kayak
I’m saying that the fight incentivises the player to go for the head
jagged spade
one of the suggestion dont's is:
- Any suggestions involving re-adding removed f...
yes
solar kayak
one of the suggestion dont's is:
- Any suggestions involving re-adding removed f...
Ah I see
Rip
unborn siren
trail fiber
one of the suggestion dont's is:
- Any suggestions involving re-adding removed f...
i told him but he is to arrogant to hear
trail fiber
yes yes, wathever you say
tacit tide
its just funny watching you 2 telling the other arrogant xD in need popcorn
solar kayak
humble rain
Idk if anyone saw my suggestion yesterday, but the scar from fortnite would be a cool gun to add for the ranger class. or any gun from fortnite, I'm up for suggestions! 😄
crude geode
Idk if anyone saw my suggestion yesterday, but the scar from fortnite would be a...
references for the sake of references are a don't
crude geode
solar kayak
Idk if anyone saw my suggestion yesterday, but the scar from fortnite would be a...
Fortnite is mid I’m afraid
solar kayak
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JD6
jagged spade
Idk if anyone saw my suggestion yesterday, but the scar from fortnite would be a...
nope
solar kayak
"Za warudo" JoJo fans are cringe
humble rain
Fortnite fans are not cringe
jagged spade
Fortnite fans are not cringe
these species are even worse
humble rain
I think the semiauto shotgun would be cool
It would shoot shotgun bullets but fast
Any thoughts?
solar kayak
I think sugon is a cool weapon
solar kayak
😵
crude geode
just don't bother tbfh, calamity players tend to have an elitist complex.
crude geode
I think the semiauto shotgun would be cool
also references for the sake of references are still a don't.
solar kayak
just don't bother tbfh, calamity players tend to have an elitist complex.
Damn, exposed
frail mantle
Specific item suggestions in general are a don’t
crude geode
also that
solar kayak
I feel like weapon switching and weapon combos would be a cool implementation
Further benefits and practicalities to using multiple weapons
humble rain
So you can double pump someone
solar kayak
I mean the game intrinsically does that, but it would be cool if there’s more
humble rain
I agree
solar kayak
So you can double pump someone
I was thinking more combining the effects
humble rain
Add double pump from fortnite
solar kayak
Like in Doom Eternal or Devil May Cry
humble rain
Its where you switch weapons like you said
solar kayak
Uh ok
humble rain
You shoot someone once with pump shotgun then switch to another and shoot again so you son’t have to reload
Sorry I’m very knowledgable about fortnite
solar kayak
Yeah however you call it, I think it would create an interesting dynamic that encourages smart weapon usage and manually dexterity
humble rain
Me too
I agree
Like switching from the bolt action sniper to a supressed smg when someone gets close to you
solar kayak
You shoot someone once with pump shotgun then switch to another and shoot again ...
That’s the basic principles of Weapon Switching, cutting down on reloading frames
humble rain
So you can break their builds faster and kill them
solar kayak
Terraria currently has things like, using Golden Shower to lower enemy defence, then swapping to something else
The summoner class has whips and sentries
And minions
So you're constantly swapping between those n stuff
humble rain
Thats pretty cool
Anyways, the fortnite rocket launcher would be cool. It could like break blocks and do a lot of damage
solar kayak
I believe there should be a greater benefit to swapping weapons, maybe more elemental interactions n shit
solar kayak
Anyways, the fortnite rocket launcher would be cool. It could like break blocks ...
Let’s cool it with the Fortnite, yeah?
humble rain
Idk I think its more interesting than your suggestion
solar kayak
I mean to you it is
But I don’t think anyone here wants to talk about Fortnite
At all
Lol
frail mantle
i think ranged in general needs weapons that aren't just Gun That Shoot Bullets #4
crude geode
same
frail mantle
vanilla has enough of those
crude geode
or bow that shoots arrows
frail mantle
calamity too, to some extent
solar kayak
Ranged could greatly benefit from weapon switching tbh
crude geode
(please more rocket launchers for the love of god)
humble rain
See he wants the rocket launcher
solar kayak
Like it could make weapons like the sniper rifle viable
crude geode
not le random fortnite rocket launcher.
solar kayak
See he wants the rocket launcher
Bro there are several rocket launchers in the game
robust root
Maybe the rpg from FortNite and You could Rocket-Ride
solar kayak
Like they should add more guns that are single shot, long reload time, but have interesting synergies with other weapons so players are encouraged to swap guns constantly
How about we don’t add anything from Fortnite (mid ass game)
humble rain
Rocket ride would be so epic
solar kayak
snore
humble rain
You shoot it then ride it into moonlord
solar kayak
Zzzzzzzzzz
humble rain
It could do like 130,000 damage or something (just a suggestion)
solar kayak
There already is a cursor controlled rocket in Calamity
frail mantle
specific item suggestion are disallowed anyway so like
robust root
Might be a little too high damage number
solar kayak
It’s the Flamsted ring
humble rain
True 90,000
solar kayak
Allows you to change into a homing rocket
silver silo
i think ranged in general needs weapons that aren't just Gun That Shoot Bullet...
How many crossbows exist
frail mantle
in calamity or in vanilla
silver silo
Yes
solar kayak
Why are this children making these hypothetical Fortnite guns overpowered
silver silo
robust root
Rocket-Ride isnt mouse controlled (ore controller controlled for that matter)
humble rain
I’m literally 15
solar kayak
Too redpilled
robust root
Whats MGR
frail mantle
perennial one, arbalest and condemnation
solar kayak
LMFAO
frail mantle
with all due respect what the hell are you talking about
humble rain
Mgr is Former Chief Minister of Tamil Nadu
solar kayak
with all due respect what the hell are you talking about
U asking me or the Fortnite kids
frail mantle
you
solar kayak
Oh
robust root
The 15 year old is the only ine who knows what ur talking about
frail mantle
i can tell
solar kayak
Tryna protect the mod from selling out and adding garbage
frail mantle
anyway go somewhere else if you're not discussing suggestions i think 👍
solar kayak
Bro I was literally discussing a potential mechanic
crude geode
Can we really not.
frail mantle
stop
crude geode
Like this was already way out of fucking hand but are we really going down this path.
solar kayak
Alright kids, let’s get back to discussion
Instead of complaining about fake beef or whatever
robust root
Autisome started it
solar kayak
"Autisome"
humble rain
Sorry, I didn’t mean to say anything mean
frail mantle
Autisome started it
don't care
solar kayak
Lmfao
humble rain
Yes sir, sorry
robust root
Go where
solar kayak
Bro changed his actual username to it as well
Not even the server nickname
I’m fucking dead
😂😂😂
frail mantle
if you're gonna keep arguing, preferably somewhere that isn't this server
solar kayak
Look bro, I’m tryna talk about game mechanics, these kids don’t get the memo that whether they like it or not, Fortnite won’t be referenced in the game
frail mantle
i don't care
stop continuing the argument if you're trying to talk about game mechanics
robust root
You got kids on your mind
frail mantle
👍
solar kayak
It was my bad fueling the flame, but I’m tryna get passed it
solar kayak
stop continuing the argument if you're trying to talk about game mechanics
Kinda hard when I’m getting tag teamed on Squads
(Le cool Fortnite reference)
humble rain
I think it would be cool if there was some type of mechanic in the game where you could switch between weapons and like certain weapon types would combo off each other causing effects based on which weapons you used. Especially mage for example bc of the class’ high weapon diversity
Original idea btw, trademarked
frail mantle
something interesting for mage would be weapons having cooldowns of sort after you use them enough or whatever
solar kayak
I think Ranger could benefit from it
frail mantle
doesn't need to make you completely unable to use the weapon, but maybe something like reduced damage while it's on cooldown to encourage using a variety of weapons
mana makes it feel like mage is meant to be a burst damage class but in practice that's not really what it feels like
solar kayak
Actually some Ranger players mix and match their bullets n shit
humble rain
Autopause gamers
solar kayak
But I think overall, there should be some powerful, slower guns
That have great synergy with each other
silver silo
perennial one, arbalest and condemnation
So it’s not a super lacking area ok
frail mantle
no references just because it's a reference yes
solar kayak
@marble hazel I find this guy's (@humble rain) username very insulting and is clearly done to harass me. 👉👈
solar kayak
No references
Wasn’t making one vro
ruby plover
<@!318561450279043073> I find this guy's (<@221489436691660801>) username very i...
...what are you even doing at this point, dude...
solar kayak
Uh getting justice served
ruby plover
you're both being bad but like. from what i've read, very much you for these last messages
frail mantle
references can work if there's some actual reason to add them that isn't just the fact that it's a reference
but you aren't allowed to suggest specific items anyway
solar kayak
you're both being bad but like. from what i've read, very much you for these las...
Wat
humble rain
My name has been like this, I’m a biology major. Its a reference to autosomal cells in a plant
solar kayak
You should replace the v in your name with a t
.
ruby plover
you do realise they may have said that because then your names would both be the same
also that is so not what qualifies as harrasment...
solar kayak
you do realise they may have said that because then your names would both be the...
Bro, it is clearly an attempt to harass me. He got his Fortnite alt to repeat the same shit
solar kayak
also that is so not what qualifies as harrasment...
It is I’m afraid
humble rain
?
solar kayak
Autisome started it
.
ruby plover
...regardless, if you wanna keep this conversation goin, we should head out of suggestions discussions
because this is going nowhere, and helping no one
cosmic jungle
wtf is going on here
ruby plover
...i don't know, it was a wild ride reading through all these messages
solar kayak
This person changed his name in an attempt to insult me indirectly
cosmic jungle
what bullying
solar kayak
By calling me Autistic
humble rain
Shield of cthulu dash should be shorter to encourage upgrading your dash sooner
solar kayak
You should replace the v in your name with a t
@cosmic jungle
cosmic jungle
well that was uncalled for yes
solar kayak
Then he proceeded to change his name to that
cosmic jungle
but also you're arguing here like actual children
cosmic jungle
not sure
solar kayak
Shall I explain the situation? We were originally talking about game mechanics that could be added
unique vector
i can tell the situation from the chat history
solar kayak
Then the guy kept talking about Fortnite guns
Then it got out of hand
We made fun of each other’s games etc
unique vector
i think im gonna bop the dude with a warn and leave you off at a verbal
cosmic jungle
yeah makes sense
solar kayak
🤝
unique vector
@humble rain bopped (dont mock people your autism jokes arent funny)
humble rain
Yikes kinda offensive to assume I would tease someone based off mental illness. Especially when I clearly explained my use of autisome in reference to plants
😬
humble rain
Yes sher
unique vector
not the place to argue yes
solar kayak
unique vector
again
silver silo
🤫
unique vector
move on
cosmic jungle
final warning
unique vector
you arent in the right here either auvi
solar kayak
Tf is a jackhammer
silver silo
Exactly
solar kayak
In Terraria
frail mantle
what a chainsaw is to a normal saw
solar kayak
Yeah but I mean functionally?
silver silo
Yeah why it’s sad
solar kayak
So it's just a drill then
cosmic jungle
functionally it's literally just a hammer
solar kayak
Oh
silver silo
It’s a hammer drill
solar kayak
Nvm
silver silo
A hammer but it goes brrrr
It’s kind of weird they just made a chloro one of all things then just said lol no more
frail mantle
there's the hydraulic volt crasher but other than that there aren't any jackhammers i can think of either in this mod or vanilla
crude geode
I remember someone bringing up give drills/jackhammers charge so they’re not just pickaxes
silver silo
Wait so does chloro have one of every type
cosmic jungle
I think so yeah
silver silo
Chainsaw axe pick axe drill hammer jackhammer
silver silo
The only “full set”
cosmic jungle
it also has 2 swords and a bow
silver silo
Unless we count hamaxes
There’s also oddities like the picksaw drax and pick axe axe
frail mantle
chloro pickaxe is just pickaxe axe but without the axe part and you need the pickaxe axe to get it in the first place
crude geode
chloro pickaxe is just pickaxe axe but without the axe part and you need the pic...
That sentence is such a mouthful
frail mantle
it has a 1 block longer range than pickaxe axe
this will be great for the economy
silver silo
I don’t think anybody uses chloro tools because they do nothing relevant
crude geode
Their gimmick is being irrelevant because you get shroomite/spectre tools one boss later
silver silo
Maybe there should be more in between to use them for?
crude geode
just get a picksaw
Because getting a picksaw in vanilla is hell
frail mantle
shroomite claws is the fastest pickaxe in vanilla i think
silver silo
Oh yeah ahroomite claws is another weird ass tool
umbral cairn
Real chads use Cuppertools the whole game
silver silo
Shroomite doesntbhave an axe or hammer right since they’re sold
solar kayak
Drills are better than pickaxes in vanilla now
umbral cairn
Change my mind
solar kayak
Less range tho
crude geode
spectre tools feel irrelevant af tho
I like it mostly for thematic purposes of matching tools with armor set
raw veldt
because farming spectre bars is ass
you aren't wrong they are irrelevant
considering that the next upgrade is always picksaw
silver silo
Maybe matching set tools should have a bonus for wearing the set?
cosmic jungle
you can just beat vanilla with a pickaxe axe and be fine tbh
raw veldt
Maybe matching set tools should have a bonus for wearing the set?
they would have to be really good to even consider
so meh
raw veldt
yeah
silver silo
Scoria doe
cosmic jungle
in vanilla
crude geode
We’re mainly talking vanilla
silver silo
Ah
crude geode
Cuz in calamity everything is a different beast
silver silo
Vanilla has no ore past chloro yeah
Luminite was made an ore for no real reason
Since it’s a drop
cosmic jungle
building I guess??
cosmic jungle
some odd people
silver silo
Maybe if you wanted to make a giant luminite moon
crude geode
I mean technically there is a purpose to mining post plant/pre-golem, and it’s called where the fuck is my jungle temple
jagged spade
Maybe if you wanted to make a giant luminite moon
basically the post ml luminite planetoids
cosmic jungle
yeah but like
is it REALLY worth grinding that much for the shroomite claws
when pickaxe axe does the job fine
silver silo
Luminite also doesn’t make the ore mining sound when hit, it makes the dirt sound DEVS PLS
It feels a little odd that once you get the pick saw everything becomes irrelevant same with the uelibloom pick
You can ignore multiple tiers
small timber
it don't "ignore multiple tiers", you get pickaxe post mech (pickaxe axe), then plantera have no pickaxe, next tier is golem for picksaw, then next (usually is lunatic cultist) then moon lord
because of the luminite/exodium cluster planetoid you usually do have to craft luminite pickaxes
just that the end game don't have ores to mine so blossom is used until auric
cosmic jungle
we were talking about vanilla
crude geode
I do think that it’s exacerbated by calamity since even like reaver stuff exists, and everything still just goes down the drain
cosmic jungle
in calamity you have no reason to make shroomite, spectre or chloro tools either really
you'll get a picksaw anyway so why bother
silver silo
Nerf picksaw lo
crude geode
If we can argue for using weapons a tier later why can we not use pickaxes a tier later, especially when dynamite is still usable
small timber
the problem is post-plant tools mines nothing, and picksaw do mine something, so you can't really "buff them"
unless you make only post-plant can mine perennial
silver silo
Make them same tier?
small timber
cannot, scoria is in the abyss, which is supposed to be post golem
silver silo
Hmm
crude geode
You could just let shroomite digging claws/spectre pickaxe mine scoria post golem
silver silo
True
cosmic jungle
the only real thing you could do is some other gimmick
like making them mine faster or with more range
small timber
but... do you really want to spend mats to craft a pickaxe instead of use the free drop?
crude geode
I mean if the original spectre/shroomite was buffed yeah.
silver silo
the only real thing you could do is some other gimmick
Spectre tools I feel like should have some ghostly ability but I’m not sure what
crude geode
release spectre souls on block break
cosmic jungle
make them mine dungeon bricks instantly
silver silo
It’s like what can you do with “breaks block” to make it interesting
cosmic jungle
(joke)
silver silo
Honestly omega
let’s be real with dungeon mining to make arenas for void and polter
I wouldn’t mind that
small timber
if it is for dungeon (post-ml for void and polter), isnt it make more sense to buff luminite pickaxes?
instead of post-plant tools
silver silo
Actually imagine if the chloro pick axe had a vein miner effect but only on chlorophyte ore
People love vein miner so give it to them in a balanced way
silver silo
if it is for dungeon (post-ml for void and polter), isnt it make more sense to b...
Just thematic and gives it a use
cosmic jungle
after being upgraded
crude geode
if it is for dungeon (post-ml for void and polter), isnt it make more sense to b...
luminite already has the purpose of mining something, uelibloom
cosmic jungle
that too
crude geode
Make shroomite digging claws not kill truffle worms
silver silo
crude geode
Or critters in general tbfh
crude geode
Yo wacky thorium item
crude geode
Very true
silver silo
Pixl we’ve tried that for ages
cosmic jungle
rewriting dungeon worldgen is like ass tho is it not
silver silo
You do it
unique vector
welcome to 1.3 dungeon hell
silver silo
Journeys end dungeons 
cosmic jungle
now we know why red never made a dungeon boss
crude geode
(Personally I think Journey’s end dungeon is pretty cool and adds to the thematics and traps without explicitly adding dungeon exclusive traps.)
Dungeon generation tends to be pretty wacky and unpredictable, unlike jungle temple which always at least has a shitty altar room
silver silo
I like the pitfalls and such just not the blocked hallways
Also water pits give natural fishing spots
The hallways having to be mined is just a chore for a mostly fight themed area
crude geode
Blocked hallways need to just not take like actual effort to bust through
silver silo
Idk why they don’t crumble in a chain reaction he made it use the “sometimes it breaks” mechanic he gave to desert fossils
lone geyser
based
small timber
it already works no? I used it against destroyer and it was no way as rippy as people claim
oh ok the damage portion probably, I did not check for it
lone geyser
i tried it and didnt notice any difference in the damage
small timber
I will just try it too for double confirm
lone geyser
👍 thanks
small timber
because I remember destroyer laser dont do anything to me in death malice with transformer
ya it definitely do not work, I guess I had more defense than I thought
transformer do give electrified immunity but the projectile do same damage
(although tbh it might be intentional since 90% of malice destroyer is laser spam)
grim tusk
@solar kayak although i agree that DoG needs to be more of a menace, bringing the head instakill is a bad idea as it forces back the reason of why it was removed in the first place: forcing the player to play glass cannon, sometimes being way too punishing. However the idea of making the head more active in the fight is very good, I feel that DoG needs to be overall more aggressive to be more of a menace rather than relying on an instakill to be threatening
exotic stag
(just make dog fire lasers out of his mouth. boom solution)
small timber
just give dog head hit 1k damage
grim tusk
just give dog head hit 1k damage
Malice DoG in a nutshell
small timber
at the very least you can still do something about it, just not instantenously unconditional one shot
distant gyro
780 + 5 seconds of GSI is good enough i think
grim tusk
780 + 5 seconds of GSI is good enough i think
Ye
Leave the brutal oneshot to Malice, BR and Infernum
small timber
ya in death he is a bit underwhelming, though I will definitely prefer changing his charge pattern rather than more damage
malice EoW has more aggressive charge pattern than DoG
grim tusk
Malice DS has more aggressive charges than Dmode DoG
exotic stag
(why not instead of making his head a giant hurtbox. make his head actually do more)
small timber
malice DS has more aggressive charges than 90% of things in the game (on its tier)
exotic stag
(like y'know. lasers cause he should be able to use lasers for more then one attack)
small timber
I would definitely prefer a more charge-based DoG than laser DoG, laser wall kinda become his hardest attack
it slowly losing its boss identity
exotic stag
(yeah but making him rather then just charging worm number 5 it'll be more like he actually has more then one different attack)
small timber
that is when he can be different, he is not the charging worm number 5, he is THE charging worm
he is a post-ML boss and one of the (if not) most iconic boss of the mod
exotic stag
(hes iconic cause of his music pretty much. his fight is just charging worm number 5 though)
small timber
(ya it currently is, I mean he can be THE charging worm if he gets reworked, he is now laser spammy worm number 500 not even charging worm)
grim tusk
His fight is what if destroyer was post-ML
exotic stag
yes
exotic stag
(i mean he uses lasers like what? for one attack?)
small timber
and his blue/purle gimmick simply don't work in current days when many bosses get much better
it only make him "give up" on attacking you for a slow hawaiian travel
grim tusk
and his blue/purle gimmick simply don't work in current days when many bosses ge...
:noted: for infernum
small timber
ya haven't try infernum yet, they probably expanded on it (since it is suppose to be crazy version of the boss)
since it is in beta and I am not aware if it is even available to public
grim tusk
I’ll tell something about the bg there
exotic stag
i also havent tried infernum cause i already have 60 mods
small timber
they should be, passive dog is like one of the massive weakness that still exist for some reason
not a single other boss in the game randomly give you 15 second free downtime
grim tusk
not a single other boss in the game randomly give you 15 second free downtime
OD but at least he gives less down time
exotic stag
(does infernum DoG use lasers for more then one attack though)
grim tusk
(does infernum DoG use lasers for more then one attack though)
Yes
Although not so sure
small timber
(I was referring to base calamity since I haven't try infernum) but ya I definitely will welcome a more aggressive dog
grim tusk
He was reworked again, but hes epic
small timber
even if it will be fucked
grim tusk
Anyways back to vanilla Calamity
exotic stag
(can we just give DoG something more to do then just "hehe charge worm" though)
small timber
I mean we can't just suggest "yo rework DoG to stop being post-ML Destroyer", so probably case close
grim tusk
(can we just give DoG something more to do then just "hehe charge worm" though)
Yea
Laser wall can be kept but DoG needs to spice up everything else
exotic stag
yes
exotic stag
I mean we can't just suggest "yo rework DoG to stop being post-ML Destroyer", so...
i didnt mean that
small timber
if I am to make a suggestion:
- throw away the two phase gimmick, 2) less laser spam more charges, 3) much more aggressive in general (no run off the map), 4) give him like 5 different charge pattern, example is DS have a burrow attack (so just give DoG like 5 different variants from all angles)
exotic stag
i meant improve off of his already decent attacks and use more of his lasers in attacks other then just charging and randomly using walls
small timber
if he is to be "more lasery" just give him a circle version of thanos' laser spam
small timber
the one that follow you and spam literally a wall
exotic stag
literally
just make him shoot a laser pattern out of his mouth
(like y'know how bosses will have the 3 - 2 - 3 pattern with lasers?)
small timber
I will be honest that attack seems very random on DoG, same with laser walls, he had been having identity crisis since a long time ago
fossil finch
if I am to make a suggestion:
1) throw away the two phase gimmick, 2) less laser...
I'm pretty sure it's 3 not 2
At least i swore it was 3 movement patterns instead of 2
small timber
and also 5) why does he only do portal attack ONCE, his entire lore is based behind space manipulation, he should have some sort of attack where he open multiple portals to simulatenously charges quickly
like exo twins' charge, but by a gigantic worm and portals
fossil finch
Also it can be kept because it's not the problem
It can be used perfectly to signify him doing a different attack
exotic stag
(just make DoG have the ability to invert gravity like palkia in SSBU)
(or invert the camera)
(being flipping it)
unique vector
not everything has to be lore hyperfocused
small timber
not necessary "lore hyperfocus", more like lore can help build uniqueness in bosses, which can be reflected in its attack
because there are no other opportunity for something like this, it is unique to DoG especially considering his status as an iconic boss
unique vector
not if a big and flashy attack is overused
but i see your point
dont think lore explains why people want him to instakill again though 
small timber
instead it is post-ML malice destroyer with lasers but less laser and more walls
oh sorry we gone off topic in the previous convo
exotic stag
okay but how about my idea about makin him flip the camera
small timber
(just use gravity pots for uno reverse problem solved)
exotic stag
(not like that because its camera inversion not gravity)
late elk
This one surely will get rejected (ceaseless void)
exotic stag
your already trying to dodge bullet spam
ashen warren
As it should
exotic stag
your now just giving it dmode dog priority
ashen warren
One shots are unfun
Especially when it literally is pulling you into it
If you wanna get one shot use Armageddon
small timber
I think just again, massive damage is enough
there are reason insta kill is removed
exotic stag
if you get sucked into it just make it do DoT
small timber
I think the idea is just make it more punishing, because currently if you just use hook you don't really get sucked in, at all
ashen warren
That
Doesn't solve that issue at all??
That just encourages you to hook more to not get one shot lol
Put a bit of thought in it
small timber
if I am to use unpolite word it will be just "if you are bad enough to get sucked in here take massive damage git gud next time"
late elk
Alright, DoG is unfair on instakill, but it does massive damage
small timber
contact and energies share i-frame
ashen warren
contact and energies share i-frame
As you leave the succ..
small timber
it deal significantly more damage by getting stucked in than trying to get out, it is super hard to get out without nr/rod, usually it is just wait for phase end
ok words
exotic stag
just make it if your in ceaseless you get inflicted with a DoT
hardy dock
There’s a good reason why DoG lost his instakill
late elk
How many damage Ceaseless deals when the player gets sucked?
hardy dock
And CV’s would be so much worse lmao
small timber
348, energies are like 250, in Dmode
ashen warren
also your not confined to dungeon
You aren't technically with CV either tbf
small timber
for reference about same as signus contact
late elk
I've never been sucked into the void, but the energies are the problem at least for me
small timber
just make it if your in ceaseless you get inflicted with a DoT
I agree that this will probably be more sensible, instakill is still too punishing (even for an attack that have counterplay)
you will still get punished, but at least not instantaneously die
late elk
in the void-
exotic stag
you will still get punished, but at least not instantaneously die
yeah its like provis going too far DoT
you got punished for it. but its recoverable
late elk
Hmm, but what if it does deal damage and also gives debuffs to the player?
small timber
DoT don't give iframe so it already do what you said
just dont make it a 500hp/s dot then it will be fine
small timber
the more you get sucked in the more damage it deal?
exotic stag
the more you get sucked in the more damage it deal?
no
if you just get sucked into ceaseless you take a DoT but its escapable.
it just does the same as provi's debuff except less stoopid
small timber
getting tear apart, darkness,blackout, and... damage,probably
exotic stag
your already having gravitational pull which could do slow dot because your getting stretched
small timber
tear apart one is not a terraria mechanic (except in the form of dot)
late elk
what is dot
small timber
damage over time (DoT), or debuff, like on-fire,frostburn...
late elk
Ah well
unique vector
please understand proper and enjoyable game design before you try to make everything in-game lore relevant
im not gonna mark it with an exclamation unless someone else comes by and does it but this is like, a bad example of sacrificing design for the sake of realism/lore relevancy
small timber
just make it harder in malice only
unique vector
good tip: dont do it just bc u want it to make sense, do it if its interesting to the player from a gameplay or visual perspective
exotic stag
~~ lore relevancy has to take a part in something though. you dont want them being a swordsman and then just summoning god out of nowhere~~
unique vector
i do not think instaadying to the gores of a boss you just killed is good design or falls in the reign of interesting
unique vector
~~ lore relevancy has to take a part in something though. you dont want them bei...
dont strew what i said ngl ngl
ofc there has to be a balance
im just saying, on one end try not to suggest things to be more realistic or lore relevant for the sake of it
small timber
insta kill is just bad design, same reason why yharon bordernado no longer have insta kill despite enraging yharon is basically insta kill
it is just completely unfun when you make a tiny mistake and die (while not deliberately setting for it like arma)
unique vector
instakilling isnt rlly the main issue i have with this sugg
its moreso throwing in a mechanic to make CV more “realistic” when it doesnt really need to be IMO
small timber
just as long as it is not literally instakill I think the idea of your suggestion still works
currently it is a bit too not punishing for literally fucking up on a desperation attack
late elk
debuffs work?
small timber
ya just as long as not literally die (which give no chance to recover at all)
DoT give room to recover after you basically screwed up
late elk
DoT just in the desesperation phase or any phase of the fight?
small timber
depend on what you want, you are suggesting
we are just arguing that insta kill might not be the best idea, we are not trying to discredit your suggestion so just suggest what you want
gray nebula
average debuff as cooldown indicator fans vs average unique visuals as cooldown indicators enjoyers
small timber
I think just slightly more reason, like for a phase where the entire mechanic is to get the player sucked into the void, somehow the energies are much more dangerous than getting stucked in the void itself
otherwise I think it gets the idea across
late elk
yeah