It does make sense that she summons them but it really needs to be changed
#suggestions-discussion
small timber
first one I can see, second one should not get past at all (considering it is suggested 100 times)
ruby plover
yeah... so many suggestions about it...
cobalt pewter
those people just need to cope harder iirc
small timber
not all people are aware of the griefing dungeon entrance method (since it is hidden mechanic related), and even then not all people want to destroy the dungeon like that
crude geode
Once again
small timber
I think my statement above explain itself
crude geode
Not everyone wants to break the bottom of the dungeon entrance
small timber
ya, I think just missed it because there are so many suggestion daily
same for that one in posting for config to toggle malice drops (the lack of explanation and reason should probably already be exclaim worthy)
crude geode
@hollow shell Is the suggestion about reverting malice mode drops in posting valid or not
also mfw JFL completely sweeps the use in non-boss fights under the rug smh my head
@shell grotto Fluctuate
cobalt pewter
also mfw JFL completely sweeps the use in non-boss fights under the rug smh my h...
non boss fights are not real in cal
small timber
dude if you are not doing Death Mode Malice Defiled Armageddon Iron Heart Hardcore bosses are you even playing the game 🧂
crude geode
“This weapon sucks against bosses on tier”
“But it shreds normal enemies”
“…but muh boss damage”
small timber
in my dmode playthrough out of boss fights is literally 70% of the playthrough
having all items only work in bosses is just
crude geode
probably cuz 90% of what calamity adds is boss fights
unborn siren
Reminds me of my armageddon playthrough
unborn siren
The gear shredded bosses but I died in 1-2 hits from normal enemies
small timber
pre-boss gear grind killed me more times than all of pre-HM bosses combined pre-ML bosses combined
cobalt pewter
probably cuz 90% of what calamity adds is boss fights
ye
hollow shell
<@!149223721700163584> Is the suggestion about reverting malice mode drops in po...
aight thanks for pinging
shell grotto
<@353691694341947393> Flu*ct*uate
thanks, i'm too tired for this lol
hollow shell
It's not against the rules but I am going to use my influence as a dev and mod to personally tell them that it is not a good idea
crude geode
Also their username and about section is a bit conspicuous ngl
cobalt pewter
sounds like it kinda
hollow shell
@west bison It would be better to improve the Challenge Drop system and/or Malice, and fix what people dislike about it, rather than reverting it
north plank
I didn’t see anything tying them to each other, or infractions on them
hollow shell
Having an option to revert it is almost even worse
north plank
so it’s probably just a name
hollow shell
Because then we have to balance twice, basically
Or have one side of the concept exist in unbalance
north plank
you can have an alt for more than one reason 
hollow shell
Having an alt is only a problem if you have a punishment applied to you
north plank
not important for here really
shell grotto
could technically do both revert and maintain what currently exists so players can choose their grinds, then prevent 1st time drops in not malice.
obsidian cove
Does a suggestion have to purpose a solution on how to change something, or can it just say to in some way achieve a goal(do you get what I'm saying?)
west bison
it wasn't banned lmao
i dont think its even in the server anymore
2fa locked out
lost the codes on my other pc
which broke
crude geode
Wacky
west bison
@elfin nest @crimson breach
other 2 accounts
they're here
yeah not sure why snomii#1562 is here
you can kick that one
im not actually sure
hollow shell
you can kick that one
aight I'll do that for simplicity
west bison
i think i know why actually
i used to use 1562 as my main
friends & servers list got too cluttered
so i swapped to 0032 as my main
and kinda forgot about 1562
i dont care if it gets removed
ye
west bison
<@!577206981606244363> It would be better to improve the Challenge Drop system a...
the thing people dislike about it is that you HAVE to play malice mode now
and everyone is like aaaaahhhh noooo its locked behind hard mode!!
small timber
ya basically someone suggested the exact samething already, so go vote on it instead
west bison
im not saying fully revert the system
small timber
same for a config version of the suggestion
west bison
im saying add a toggle on and off similar to the early hm changes
crude geode
Malice is just cringe because it initiates death mode instantly, so you have to do death mode malice mode currently
hollow shell
the thing people dislike about it is that you HAVE to play malice mode now
What do you mean "HAVE to"?
Very few items are challenge drops
small timber
revert malice/config to toggle malice back to RIV and legendary is the two most common suggestion
north plank
the only rev drops people cared about was counter scarf, and that’s really it
and community I guess
west bison
What do you mean "HAVE to"?
Very few items are challenge drops
i was saying you actually are forced to play it to get said items
west bison
the only rev drops people cared about was counter scarf, and that’s really it
thats not exactly true
small timber
void vortex and yharim crystal, crown jewel, but cant think of other example
crude geode
Nobody complained about Rev lol
north plank
but you aren’t even missing out on much though
crude geode
locking things like crown jewel
north plank
a lot complained about 1% grinding
west bison
there were some really good ones like malachite
small timber
they like it, cant say much, dont use myself
malachite is replaceable with other rogue weapon
west bison
a lot complained about 1% grinding
yeah and a lot of people are complaining about this too
crude geode
It is.
cobalt pewter
Isn’t that Draconius? whatever that bow is
Drataliornus?
west bison
incase somebody would really just rather grind pbg for 6 hours to get the item
crude geode
Yharim Crystal and Void Vortex are both dropped by Yharon which is cringe
small timber
revert malice/config to toggle malice back to RIV and legendary is the two most ...
^
just vote on them instead
north plank
wait they both are malice items? nutty
crude geode
Yharim’s Crystal is probably the most boring fucking item calamity adds, mainly for it’s point in progression, ngl
small timber
just ctrl+F and search "malice drop" or something and you will see the exact same suggestion, just vote it
crude geode
It’s literally just Last Prism 2. At least Dark Spark inverts Last Prism’s gimmick.
cobalt pewter
personally I find the issue is more on Malice as a mode rather than the concept of locking the drops this way
(it's a bad mode)
(gonna be real)
north plank
nah malice items still go beyond their tier, sometimes
cobalt pewter
(just massive stat bloat, extra predictive attacks and timed DR because you definitely haven't suffered enough)
Dune Hopper sucks major ass
small timber
when they announced malice and i see the tooltip of "making bosses enraged", I have 0 expectation for it to be balance in any form whatsoever, surprise many people argue against it
cobalt pewter
malice drops are still not balanced on the mode itself
at that point just merge arma's nohit into malice and make the whole thing a nohit
small timber
it is an intentionally overtuned mode to give unreasonble difficulty for those who wanted to try, not Death Mode 2
cobalt pewter
bam
small timber
it is not a donor item so I think no problem
west urchin
A potential rework to the Big Gay Lazar could work, but as to how, lemme think.
ruby plover
What… what is the “Big Gay Lazar”?
west urchin
Any weapon that just shoots a massive singular beam
Like the Dark Spark, Last Prism, and Yharims Crystal
I know
But for now
Lemme think of something for Yharims Crystal
Potential Redesign:
Upon firing the weapon, the 2 side beams fire forward in a cone like pattern, dealing very low damage.
After 3 seconds, the weapon fires outwards, creating an initial beam of high damage, however, as it goes on, the beam expands into a tornado like cone in front of the weapon, dealing ~50% damage at max range.
ruby plover
I think specific item suggestions are a don’t
Like having specific guidelines on how it will be made/changed
worthy lintel
Balancing is under dev's belt so precise stats are a no
west urchin
Well, it's an idea
ruby plover
Yea
west urchin
Lemme get something
I don't have much artistic talent but it's something like this
The 2 surrounding parts of the crystal would spin the central beam into a tornado like cone
Said tornado resembling Yharon's tornados
frozen hornet
sideways Wand
west urchin
Perhaps
cobalt pewter
wait just realized
if anyone remembers and I don't, do remind me
keen zealot
it's fine
hollow shell
I did reset the bluecheck yes
Not that it matters much
I cleaned the Don'ts doc a lil bit too
but, could be looked at more extensively, I suppose
earnest raptor
at that point just merge arma's nohit into malice and make the whole thing a noh...
I just wanted to say than Malice items could additionally drop as arma rewards
also
it's interesting than 260 star have been not reached since update's inception
and suggs are just now noted by devs
stars system is outdated and doesn't matter anymore
crude geode
Has 200 been reached is my question
keen zealot
200 has been reached a good few times
I've already found a couple that have eventually reached their respective thresholds as well
I think suggs are getting less votes than usual because there are just so many of them right now
I've stopped reading through #suggestions-posting at all, and only lightly skim #suggestions-voting
377 suggs since the star count was raised and we have only four legitimate passes
I think there's a problem with the current requirements
keen zealot
it's interesting than 260 star have been not reached since update's inception
270 stars has been reached 4 times
earnest raptor
okay, I was wrong
fickle thistle
I'm probably the least likely person to say this since I'm a literal summoner simp but..... is it just me or does the class have way too much damage post pbg?
butterfly + wither blossom basically turns everything into ash
earnest raptor
0.796% delivery rate is still quite sad
keen zealot
and one of them wasn't technically delivered, just marked as done already
wait you already accounted for that
earnest raptor
that's why I am saying 3/377
keen zealot
well I can't just calculate an irrational fraction in my head
keen zealot
even if the count to pass remained 200 there would still only be 18 passes
small timber
there are plans for complete pre-HM and hm weapon rebalance so I think it will be fix soon
earnest raptor
even if the count to pass remained 200 there would still only be 18 passes
delivery rate is still 95% lower
keen zealot
up to about 25-30 if the ones very close got pushed through because they would then be considered close instead of 65 away like they are now
I saw a lot of 190's on the way back down the list
most optimistic scenario puts us at a 9%ish passrate
short dust
i like how someone was talking about the AEWs telekinesis attack and then they changed it so enraged AEW uses is every 5 seconds
earnest raptor
yeah, calamity devs have a trait of turning every idea they see into something worse
carmine lantern
isnt there a setting in the mod configuration letting npcs spawn at night
just go into that
And boom old man npc spawns
cobalt pewter
isnt there a setting in the mod configuration letting npcs spawn at night
yea
that + town NPC spawn speed to 10x
super fast old man respawns
cobalt pewter
I'm p sure DS is not a proper worm anymore in a traditional sense
i can't explain it
eternal escarp
its code is wildly differing from the average worm like entity i think yeah
same for AEW with his whole "body isnt real" thing perhaps
distant gyro
all calamity worms are like that except armored digger
eternal escarp
tro
well yeah that makes sense but i think feedz meant like
some change that changed DS further recently?
distant gyro
ds was the last boss to use worm AI which was terminated
cobalt pewter
yea
steady parrot
my bad
cobalt pewter
no prob
shell grotto
i like how someone was talking about the AEWs telekinesis attack and then they c...
tends to happen when every nohitter though to fight AEW enraged rather underwater as preference. A preference that many other people also did
frozen hornet
This just sounds unnecessarily annoying
also desert feathers are yellow and the plumed helm's feathers (they don't even look like feathers 
) are red
also also by this logic the wire-hemmed visage should require wires
which is also ech
exotic stag
red dye + desert feathers
frozen hornet
even worse
grim tusk
Harpy feather
grim tusk
This just sounds unnecessarily annoying
And ye very unnecessary
cobalt heath
I have a bad idea whit great discussion to be had
Lets add damage caps on bosses pre first kill
cobalt heath
On this boss you cant deal More than a certain amount off damage
There should be a cap to balance out stone skipping (and the scal draedon problem). This would cap your damage at a certain point on first kill. On farming its a different story
fossil bronze
this just sounds like reactive dr to me
sleek wadi
It is reactive DR and reactive DR is cringe
exotic stag
(pretty much everyone hates reactive DR)
cobalt heath
Basicly. So add a meter, where the system detects if you have yet to kill a certain boss. Add a cap then to damage, not allowing to go above it. This would balance the exo weapon problem at scal point. (I hate that problem btw)
sleek wadi
I have a suspicion that RDR is even kicking in on-tier for malice bosses already which actually just kills damage builds
fossil bronze
thats literally what the mod already does
small timber
- everyone HATE this kind of mechanic that Calamity is planning on removing them (but balance around it)
- RDR already exist for Calamity
- usually this kind of mechanic is only necessary when balance is poor or are specifically design for a challenge run
fossil bronze
if you deal too much damage to a boss it gains dr
and prevents you from shredding it
exotic stag
^ like an anti-butcher pretty much except not as "insta-kill"
small timber
and 4) this kind of mechanic basically make going damage completely pointless, which is toxic as it kills build variety
distant gyro
yeah it already exists
sleek wadi
Damage cap bad because it gimps damage builds and nothing more. I'm not gonna go for menacing and glass cannon accessories if tanky mc-tankerson who only has 1 damage accessory is getting similar kill times
cobalt heath
Well add that to all other rev+ difficulties (to My understanding its malice only)
exotic stag
no
frail mantle
it isn't
small timber
it already exist in the current version
exotic stag
even if it were malice only. we arent adding rdr to everything, it ruins glass cannons pretty much
or most builds
small timber
and people hate it so much that there are plans to remove it from non-Malice
cobalt heath
Class cannons should not exist anyways 
frail mantle
exotic stag
exotic stag
so your saying literally tanking every hit for 1 damage should exist over dps
small timber
the difference between the glass cannon you think and actually balanced glass cannon is different, balanced is +20/30% damage at the cost of defense, your glass cannon is deal double/triple damage
distant gyro
https://youtu.be/9W2r2symSgI found the
exotic stag
the difference between the glass cannon you think and actually balanced glass ca...
thats the whole reason its called glass cannon. its a frail high dps thing
deft yew
@carmine lantern I do agree with this, but Jared shouldn’t get segment icons because his segments are purely cosmetic.
exotic stag
^
distant gyro
everyone goes on a field day regarding rdr
deft yew
Heck, what about Destroyer?
exotic stag
destroyer would be weird.
cause if your like: i want it to be shown if theres a segment that isnt killed yet.
then destroyers gonna look like a messed up worm if you just kill a bunch of random segments. therefore making him look cut up
deft yew
Oh I forgot about the segment deactivation gimmick
Except doesn’t rev+ Destroyer just ignore the gimmick entirely?
fossil bronze
also if someone uses texturepacks
calamitys map icons would look jank
exotic stag
(oh and also EoW)
eow would look jank as hell on the map if you split him
since it only shows his head iirc
fossil bronze
for example ctp destroyer is blue not red
deft yew
EoW does look jank on the map
I guess adding a sprite for vanilla content is off limits
exotic stag
i mean just look at malice eow being long asf.
deft yew
I’ve never seen any mod change a vanilla sprite
exotic stag
like just imagine that
carmine lantern
i wouldnt mind if eow did not have its segments show
Because of it splitting
it would be an issue
exotic stag
destroyer.
carmine lantern
hm
fossil bronze
did someonr make a sugg already to change dog phase 1 dash
deft yew
destroyer more like remove astrum deus so destroyer can be improved without carbon copying astrum deus
fossil bronze
sometimes he dashes and stays away long enough for the music to change
deft yew
sometimes he dashes and stays away long enough for the music to change
And I hate that so much
DoG just does not attack you HALF THE FIGHT
fossil bronze
yeah
carmine lantern
sometimes he dashes and stays away long enough for the music to change
It also causes you to time out and result in an early phase 1.33 or 1.66
fossil bronze
its a pain in the ass
carmine lantern
Im just gonna refer to sub phases as 1.~~
deft yew
It also causes you to time out and result in an early phase 1.33 or 1.66
Is that just a malice thing or does rev do it too?
I mean phase time limits
exotic stag
nah i dont think rev does it
carmine lantern
Is that just a malice thing or does rev do it too?
it might be a malice thing idk
deft yew
I’ve had rev Yharon go invincible at the wrong time so I think it’s rev too
exotic stag
nah i never found that during rev..
the only time i've had it is when im intentionally only dodging and not attacking dog
fossil bronze
dog was so fast amd so far away i couldnt hit him
and he didnt attack me at all
also i was looking at the wiki page for aew and
his drops dont seem that good for a superboss
fossil bronze
how good is halibut cannon
i calculates its dps and it doesnt seem better than for example minigun or soma prime
but i havent used it ingame
fossil bronze
ah
deft yew
Hali cannon with reaper tooth and omega blue sounds like
Or does OB not have penetration anymore?
exotic stag
it does
fossil bronze
so recently calamity made it so that all broadswords swing towards where the player is walking
the issue with this is that its hard to hit things with the blade now, as you have to face them
im thinking about suggesting it be replaced with making all broadswords work like vanilla projectile swords, making the blade swing in the direction of the mouse
exotic stag
the same as RTN
deft yew
so recently calamity made it so that all broadswords swing towards where the pla...
Yes, yes, and YES
exotic stag
so recently calamity made it so that all broadswords swing towards where the pla...
or how about just allow like a quick turn keybind.
fossil bronze
indeed
deft yew
I had to bind exo chair slowdown to right click
exotic stag
Keybind bloat
theres already so many lol..
both my exo chair keybind are right alt and right shift
eternal escarp
yeah theres definitely no need for more keybinds for stuff like that
also not all broadswords are like that, im pretty sure some of the swords retain the point they were clicked at, even if you walk back
exotic stag
actually i have a big brain idea
just make the sword follow the direction of the mouse. like if its on the left swing to the left
eternal escarp
thats what they wanted to suggest, yeah
it sounds pretty valid if you give the reasoning i think
fossil bronze
draft sugg:
Change the way broadswords swing
A recent update to Calamity changed most broadswords in the game to swing in the direction the player is moving. However, this makes hitting enemies with swords annoying, as you have to constantly switch between running away and toward the enemy.
My suggestion is to make all broadswords swing in the direction of the player's mouse, like how vanilla projectile broadswords work.
it feels a bit
long
but idk what to trim off of it
eternal escarp
nono
its fine methinks
its better then having a short suggestion that doesnt convey the suggestion
fossil bronze
good point
i guess ill post it now then
posting suggestions gives me incredible anxiety
somehow
eternal escarp
earnest raptor
I guess this change is what allowed tru meme swords to have hundreds of base damage in pre-hm.
crude geode
The golem theme? What?
fossil bronze
if the cultists are attacked
the golem music plays
like during the lunatic cultist fight
crude geode
Yes but it also contradicts itself by saying the cultist theme
mild mantle
Yes but it also contradicts itself by saying the cultist theme
its the same theme
crude geode
Wack
grim tusk
as if devs didnt have trouble balancing rogue and its accs bloat already
crude geode
I think this less applies to rogue and moreso to just adding more enchantments
Because the ones already present are a headache to balance, so adding like double would make it even worse
exotic stag
as if devs didnt have trouble balancing rogue and its accs bloat already
ethereal extorter having like 4 different insane uses
wrong channel?
also just increase your ui scale
crude geode
This sugg seems fine. Done by other mods but if calamity is gonna add a boss health bar it might as well be good.
deft yew
Ok I agree completely @marsh obsidian
marsh obsidian
I'm big brain 🤓
deft yew
Inconsistency issues are pain
Exempla gratia: Victide Bar cannot be placed despite ALREADY HAVING A PLACED SPRITE
fossil bronze
calamity portable demon altar when
marsh obsidian
Exempla gratia: **Victide Bar cannot be placed despite ALREADY HAVING A PLACED S...
😬
marsh obsidian
I use luiafk for the portable altar
deft yew
or hallow altar <:HDfailure:482263678150770729>
Side note: please add an alternate way to get souls of light
fossil bronze
thorium also has portable altar i think
fossil bronze
Side note: please add an alternate way to get souls of light
yes
i hate farming underground hollow
grim tusk
Fargo’s makes crystal ball work as an altar
grim tusk
Side note: please add an alternate way to get souls of light
Fishing :))))))))))))
exotic stag
Fishing :))))))))))))
hallow becomes gone due to worldgen:
grim tusk
hallow becomes gone due to worldgen:
Hallowed seeds from dryad
deft yew
Fishing :))))))))))))
Fish of night already exists doesn’t it?
grim tusk
Well true
deft yew
You just naturally get way more night than light because of smashing altars
terse rain
I really disagree with that
on my current playthrough I ended up with 1.4k SoL from rod farming
crude geode
Farming Rod manually? Cringe
terse rain
I'm aware
tribal cedar
You just naturally get way more night than light because of smashing altars
At least right at the start of hardmode, 12 per altar is pretty significant
SoL farming doesn’t take a lot of time though, about twenty to thirty minutes to set up a decent sized farm and you’re set for the whole play through
terse rain
I mean I don't know if calamity does this or its just this way normally but both kinds of souls are like insanely common
ruby plover
I mean I don't know if calamity does this or its just this way normally but both...
They are common if you take a lot of time to make farming infrastructure
tribal cedar
Yeah, the problem isn’t quantity, it’s just motivation to farm for them rather than buy them
ruby plover
Which in calamity not many people would do, given the alternate ways to obtain
terse rain
farming infrastructure being 1 water candle and standing in a open cave next to a hellevator with an incredibly easy to craft zerg potion
ruby plover
Yeah, it just depends how much time it takes
marsh obsidian
farming infrastructure being 1 water candle and standing in a open cave next to ...
Just curious, why didn't you craft it instead?
terse rain
dont you need fish for that
I hate fishing
also absolutely gronking droves of zerged out enemies with proporse pistol is fun anyways
crude geode
to each their own
tribal cedar
Chaos fish are just a chore to get
ruby plover
you don't need chaos fish anymore, you can just buy the RoD from the wizard in the hallow
viral forge
pre providence acsessorys (antisocial on) melee
orchid briar
you don't need chaos fish anymore, you can just buy the RoD from the wizard in t...
wait is this real
ah yes 24 platinum
when does he start selling it
frozen hornet
wizard starts spawning in HM
half sage
anytime in hardmode as long as you're in the hallow
grim tusk
Resource packs 
There was some old Cal texture pack version that had rod of discord but its discord
I dont remember if it had a ping sound tho
And iirc you cant change sounds on 1.3.5 texture packs
Yes And then get muted
worthy lintel
yea huh about that
you are pretty close to crossing the sharking line
stop asking for a mute
once is too much already
you don't want to fuck over your rep for something that silly
silver silo
you are pretty close to crossing the sharking line
sharking? 🤔
worthy lintel
(rulesharking)
silver silo
theres no non fishing way to get a golden bug net is there
ruby plover
Desert scourge also can drop it from his angler bag
eternal escarp
its still possible
silver silo
I was gonna suggest levi drop it with a decent chance
eternal escarp
Levi has the hotline fishing hook iirc
so it wouldnt have been wierd per say, but regardless its already achievable from about 2 bosses
silver silo
theoretically
muted geyser
yea for total bisqiet right?
half sage
yep
muted geyser
the other half of the suggestion was add other weapons, like a god wyrm flail for melee or a staff that summons a much smaller wyrm god (example staff of the mechworm but for wyrm god)
cobalt pewter
and here we thought the term superboss was gone for good when scal was resprited
but ig not
AEW as a superboss feels tacked on
half sage
and here we thought the term superboss was gone for good when scal was resprited
more like the opposite, the only reason they still had Scal listed as a superboss was because they didn't want to remove the superboss wiki page only to readd it later for AEW
muted geyser
xeroc and noxus right?
tardy smelt
AEW as a superboss feels tacked on
Might get updated over time though
cobalt heath
but it may be important in lore
crude geode
Gameplay > Lore
distant gyro
is there even aew lore
cobalt heath
not yet but the lore channel has been having a shit ton off discussion about it
distant gyro
and how the fuck it is stronger than like every other entity ever
crude geode
is there even aew lore
is there even consistent lore
FTFY
distant gyro
mrpp
cobalt heath
mmrp
distant gyro
(cringe)
crude geode
mrrp
cobalt heath
we have made reguest to make some for it but our calls for aew lore have not been answered
crude geode
Lore has been completely fucked since before the draedon update even started development lol
Byeah
cobalt heath
but the general idea is that that aew is somehow tied to xeroc, hence it being so strong
cause most lore is old lore now cause the rewrite and its annoying
silver silo
is there even aew lore
large worm is very very upset :c
crude geode
The “rewrite” has been going on for like two years
cobalt heath
so thats why we have no answers to most guestions tied to lore
so thats why aew lore is so fucked and we have nothing about it. Just headcannons wich mrpp have not written down
crude geode
Back to AEW in game
It just feels super unnecessary since it’s kinda just rehashing shit from like 3 other things, one of which is a boss
cobalt heath
it should be dev weapon tier cause it being from a superboss
distant gyro
it's basically fact that aew is just there because of the select few reasons
which is move halibut in line with other super rare items and "im bored i might as well make this" - fab
there is no other reason
crude geode
Gameplay > Lore
distant gyro
there is no lore reason for aew
crude geode
Especially when the lore doesn’t exist
distant gyro
its conceptualization as a superboss just happened to be because of gameplay
cobalt heath
i hate it cause its a superboss for no reason
distant gyro
it's done as the successor of abyss dg
cobalt heath
its just there
distant gyro
which in turn is an abyss anticheat
the lore is irrelevant in factoring aew's existence
tl;dr
cobalt heath
it should work that you should not be able to go to the other abyss levels and it coming if you go there
if you havent done the requirement
crude geode
Breath literally exists for this reason bruh
hard locking people out of content is immensely cringe
distant gyro
no rod in the abyss --> eh here's an impossible worm boss
crude geode
I say just delete the damn thing until it actively serves a purpose lol
cobalt heath
but devs dont like to delete shit
crude geode
indeed they don’t but I still think it should be done
(Just like how I think ravager should moved to post provi even tho I know in My heart it will almost never happen)
distant gyro
it's not going to be deleted because of sunk cost
crude geode
Non-linearity moment
cobalt pewter
uh
eternal escarp
its a boss rush
which is supposed to make you fight all the bosses in a row
skipping tiers sounds counter intuitive
if you dont want to do the boss rush because it takes time then dont do it
it is*
cobalt pewter
.... actually
cobalt pewter
yea
eternal escarp
also lol
cobalt pewter
lo
eternal escarp
also also
couldnt they have just typed AEW
byeah
@muted geyser use a Line Break rather then space spam, otherwise the bot cant take your sugg
rugged belfry
Why would you even want Boss Rush to be easier
rugged belfry
Kinda the point of it is to fight all the bosses
eternal escarp
^
its a boss rush
which is supposed to make you fight all the bosses in a row
skipping tiers sounds counter intuitive
if you dont want to do the boss rush because it takes time then dont do it
eternal escarp
its not like the BR holds any importance to the gameplay
rugged belfry
^
eternal escarp
it is quite litterally, post-maingame
yeah the only real reward is satisfaction
(or a decorative rock)
rugged belfry
Why would you sell the rock 😭
lapis slate
yeah the only real reward is satisfaction
after failing the boss rush for 10th time i don't think i would get that
eternal escarp
after failing the boss rush for 10th time i don't think i would get that
then dont fight the boss rush, the intention is to fight all the bosses back to back
(besides BR rn is, as mentioned before, unbalanced and not really recommended regardless)
rugged belfry
I think the unbalance is part of the fun
eternal escarp
SCals projectiles are almost invisible due to the shader iirc
i mean if you enjoy that go ahead no ones gonna stop you
lapis slate
but i like the whole concept of br and difficulty is not the issue, time is
eternal escarp
agian, the time is the whole thing
you are supposed to fight all bosses back to back
making a shortcut is counter-intuitive
rugged belfry
You like the concept of BR yet your suggestion kinda counters the concept
Which is to fight all the bosses b2b
eternal escarp
yeah
lapis slate
look ok maybe my suggestion in this form is bad, but i still think that there should be a way to skip some amount of time in order to make the satisfaction/time ratio better
mild mantle
But
cobalt pewter
to be fair BR time is the major issue in post game balancing, but that's not related to the sugg at all
mild mantle
Boss rush
mild mantle
Boss rush is getting reworked in a few updates anyways
eternal escarp
(reworked? when was that mentioned?)
cobalt pewter
never heard of br rework yet either
mild mantle
(reworked? when was that mentioned?)
Music, visuals (which are already added), better ai and eventually xeroc
I think thats what they mentioned
Here and there
eternal escarp
xeroc is SO FAR in the future thats not something to even mention yet
mild mantle
xeroc is SO FAR in the future thats not something to even mention yet
I know
cobalt pewter
xeroc isn't real
eternal escarp
music and visuals arent a rework, more of an Overhaul
lapis slate
Boss rush is getting reworked in a few updates anyways
"Boss Rush rework: increased damage multiplier by 5x and health by 10x"
eternal escarp
better AI just ties into rebalancing
mild mantle
Well maybe my wording was off but you get what i mean
eternal escarp
look ok maybe my suggestion in this form is bad, but i still think that there *s...
satisfaction/time ratio is something very subjective
some people get more satisfaction the longer they try
some dont really move in either way
its not exactly something to balance on tbh
if you want to go to a certain tier you might aswell just turn on godmode and brute force your way there
rugged belfry
True
full pivot
jagged spade
i have a feeling i wont reach the 140 stars
the wof despawn on death is really needed and it might be drowned out by the other suggestions
tacit tide
yes
jagged spade
besides
when was the last time anything reached the dev server
because my suggestion is 100% going to get forgotten
exotic stag
seems this
exotic stag
why does it have only 51
some can be implemented without being star rq
jagged spade
well not mine for sure
exotic stag
unless yours is like a very good one (or phantasmal ruin thing)
jagged spade
unless yours is like a very good one (or phantasmal ruin thing)
who wouldnt want the wof to despawn on player death
exotic stag
some people
worthy lintel
the same people who think calamity mining speed buffs makes early game too fast 
(but also because if you die with WoF very low on HP you can salvage the kill if you drop to hell fast enough)
jagged spade
(but also because if you die with WoF very low on HP you can salvage the kill if...
kinda unfair i'd say
exotic stag
no
hes meant to cross the underworld
for him to go "poof i go bye now" is kinda weird dont you think
small timber
most of the time you can't catch up unless you start at the edge
depend on hellevator position too
jagged spade
hes meant to cross the underworld
okay well i really don't wanna reenter my world constantly
exotic stag
just be patient then
worthy lintel
its a bit unfair i agree but given you must kill the guide, coupled with the time between attempts, being able to clutch a failed fight is not a bad feature
it hurts the ego though 
jagged spade
bit unfair innit?
i just butcher it because wof on revengeance and harder
is just bullshit
no chances
worthy lintel
its a rhythm fight in rev+
exotic stag
no chances
tbh i had to cheat in a mechanical cart because a max movement speed in pre hm with EMM didnt work.
worthy lintel
problem is that you can't react to the lasers, you have to anticipate
exotic stag
problem is that you can't react to the lasers, you have to anticipate
then when you anticipate you get hit by fucking 999 mph scythes
worthy lintel
which is where the complaints stems from
but lets not be unfair to the devs, WoF as a concept is broken
they worked with what they had
jagged spade
true though
small timber
most other mods "fix it" by changing it completely from WoF
calamity's wof is still wof, despite it not being the best fight
jagged spade
they could increase the laser fire interval to a bit more
worthy lintel
same with destroyer, some bosses are just impossible to salvage
cobalt pewter
most other mods "fix it" by changing it completely from WoF
which is what should be done. i talked with some others, and wof is just eugh
cobalt pewter
cal only changes its stats and adds more laser spam
which doesn't do anything about the boss, it just becomes way more braindead
small timber
I always liked that calamity stay true to the original boss for vanilla boss changes, but I guess if it is bad enough of a fight then a revamp may be necessary
cobalt pewter
wof is one of those fights that is completely ass already in vanilla, and it's hard to salvage the boss off stat changes
even then many vanilla bosses are given new attacks in cal rev+
it's not that reaching to give wof some and adjust the boss in concept
frail mantle
#TurnWoFIntoTheWallmonger
exotic stag
also tenebrous tides:
cobalt pewter
for the uninitiated, this is wallmonger, a boss in Enter the Gungeon that is similar in concept to WoF
eternal escarp
WoF despawns in JE so there isnt much point to add it now if its not that annoying
(i mean TMod JE will never come lol byeah)
cobalt pewter
have scal tbag you when you die
eternal escarp
oh wow thats a lot of possible influences
worthy lintel
wallmonger is a concentration of references
eternal escarp
frail mantle
wallmonger is a concentration of references
That sentence applies to everything about gungeon
jagged spade
boss victory animations when
i imagine DoG's death animation to be like ender dragon death animation
just slowly ascend and die
frail mantle
Worm
silver silo
are there any dmc references in the mod
cobalt pewter
idk, search it
silver silo
how 🤨
frail mantle
You’ll see
jagged spade
You’ll see
mm alright
earnest raptor
i imagine DoG's death animation to be like ender dragon death animation
he is too much of a prick
he will run off into portal and flinger treasure bag out of portal
while cursing you
jagged spade
while cursing you
"fuck you, little leech you ruined my plan"
lavish cloak
dont know how i really feel about the suggestions being 270 if suggestions like this are gonna be getting overlooked
when theyre like
objectively right
also this
eternal escarp
dont know how i really feel about the suggestions being 270 if suggestions like ...
this bottom one was talked about just a few messages ago iirc
top one is pretty easy to counter by just using the (godforsaken) acorns
its not like they take years to grow
cobalt heath
the problem whit the terminus idea again, is lore.
cause it being in the abyss woudnt make sence if there were multiple off em
small timber
the most important point is that it is intended for BOSS RUSH, what is the point if you just skip 90% of the bosses in the game in a boss rush
cobalt heath
true
small timber
it is an optional event people do for fun, "wasting 15 minutes" is not a solid point when it is optional and he choose to do it
the event is design to explicitly have 0 reward (literally a rock)
cobalt heath
yup, no progression is tied to it
if progression was tied to it then hell yeah make it be able to be skipped but its a post game event for fun
twilit warren
dont know how i really feel about the suggestions being 270 if suggestions like ...
Is it just me or is 270 way too high
Have any recent suggestions hit that?
grim tusk
@muted geyser formatting, a bit more space between title and text i think
oak sage
not to my knowledge, ive looked
lavish cloak
its not like they take years to grow
ok but having to do that is extremely annoying considering a lot of tier-1 acid rain items use acidwood
grim tusk
Is it just me or is 270 way too high
It could be better like 260
cobalt heath
230 maybe
lavish cloak
i think the player shouldnt have to place down acorns to actually grow acid trees when the world gen is unlucky
small timber
in some sense you can plant the acorn and then when you done tier 1 acid rain it already grown, but the suggestion if totally fine, just that world gen is hard to work with
oak sage
ok but having to do that is extremely annoying considering a lot of tier-1 acid ...
thats not that bad to plant them. the problem is that new players might not know acidwood trees even exist
they might not know you can plant stuff here
especially when the biome is themed around being a wasteland
if no trees spawn, they might not know trees even exist and be confused as to what "acidwood" is
ive planted trees themselves, and you get more than enough acidwood for a playthrough out of 5 trees
myself*
eternal escarp
it is an optional event people do for fun, "wasting 15 minutes" is not a solid p...
yeah this is a condensed version of the convo about this sugg a while ago
oak sage
but new players might not know so
rugged belfry
Wood from the acid place
oak sage
ah yes, they must mean underground mushroom /s
rugged belfry
Obviously what else?
oak sage
i think its more likely that a player would assume youd get acidwood from fishing, should they have no knowledge of the trees.
since driftwood exists
not in terraria
but irl. theyd draw a line between the two
"there must be wood in the sulphur sea"
twilit warren
when I was new, I thought you could only get acidwood from fishing
because my sulphuric sea didn't generate any trees
deft yew
same with old one's army
oak sage
"hear this, and other heartbreaking stories of those simply born unlucky..."
but for just a dollar a day, you too can held donate an acidwood tree
twilit warren
😔
eternal escarp
Defective Sphere or something exists
oak sage
(why has no one made a fishing mod)
as in, one that reworks fishing
not just autofish
eternal escarp
could atleast acknowledge the (prolly singular) Rogue drop from any event in this game that was vanilla
oak sage
well when 1.4 comes spiky balls and other throwing stuff will probably be rouge
eternal escarp
i doubt it seeing as they turned Ranged
oak sage
i mean
eternal escarp
i dont see Calamity re-modifying those weapon's damage type
oak sage
yeah because vanilla got rid of throwing
they still fit better into rouge than ranged
but it doesnt matter that much ig
eternal escarp
Bonebreaker fits Rogue more
but its Melee
consistency with Scourge of the Corruptor and Daybreak and such
oak sage
yeah, some exceptions are fair
eternal escarp
byeah theoretically, yes they would fit Rogue way more
frozen hornet
Both moons have other stuff like hooks and wings
eternal escarp
(Spooky affects summoner, Tattered Fairy wings are meh iirc, Festive wings i have no idea what they do)
(((and Bat Hook exists lo)))
oak sage
festive wings make you drop ornaments when you fly
frozen hornet
Festive gives health
oak sage
its funny
frozen hornet
and ornaments
eternal escarp
oh right its
frozen hornet
Bat hook drops from vampires smh
oak sage
you shit glass
frozen hornet
vamps are eclipse enemies
eternal escarp
Soul of Cryogen and Fairy Wings combined
frozen hornet
was talking about spooky hook and christmas hook
Actually does spooky hook even exist
eternal escarp
yes
oak sage
ye
frozen hornet
wacke
oak sage
also bat hook is pre-hardmode btw
frozen hornet
Don't think I've ever found it
oak sage
the spooky bags
eternal escarp
not in Cal
oak sage
oh
eternal escarp
pretty sure in Cal it doesnt drop from bags
small timber
in some sense rogue get to most fed in eclipse by far
so in terms of events it is somewhat balanced
solar veil etc
frozen hornet
Even post-DoG rogue gets a ton from eclipse
eternal escarp
- the Defective Sphere weapon thing from the Deadly Spheres
frozen hornet
fantasy talismans too
eternal escarp
true ye
small timber
post-DoG is excluded, all class benefit from ascended spirit essence
frozen hornet
funny cards
small timber
it is probably best to argue on the vanilla version
earnest raptor
it is an optional event people do for fun, "wasting 15 minutes" is not a solid p...
there is different reason
it's a problem in boss rush events than if you want to practice some boss
you need to spend time to get it
through bosses you might not find as interesting
small timber
practice some boss is a rather weak point with boss summons being unconsumable
and if you are referring to practicing boss rush bosses, the point still stands
the event in its entirety is optional
eternal escarp
through bosses you might not find as interesting
this is just a personal issue tbf
earnest raptor
practice some boss is a rather weak point with boss summons being unconsumable
boss rush bosses are much stronger tho
eternal escarp
the entire idea of the boss rush is fighting all the bosses, whether you want or not
earnest raptor
it doesn't mean than idea is not flawed
eternal escarp
if you dont want to wast 10 hours getting to your latest point then dont fight it
id say it half is, if you argue about the whole idea of the boss rush being long then the only real solution is just not doing the boss rush
small timber
until the day BR has progression relevance, I don't see any point in any function like this
it is an optional event people play for fun, mostly for the challenges for smiting through all bosses in the game at once
eternal escarp
and it likely wont ever have any pre-endgame relevance
ot would likely always stay post game content
small timber
allowing skipping bosses defeat the point of BR itself
eternal escarp
^
frozen hornet
BR unlocks Xeroc (real)
small timber
ya, just have to wait for that day and post this suggestion, I might support it
soon™
eternal escarp
Ehhhh
not even
Xeroc is also post game content tbh
so all of these points still stand tall
oak sage
Bonebreaker fits Rogue more
but its Melee <:HDFailure:770386398955307019>
melee needs work anyways. that and summoner (in the form of AI fix and stuff. I hope that one 1.4 summoner rework mod will be compatible with calamity)
even with the addition of true melee damage boosts in calamity, it still doesnt feel like enough.
I think loosening the definition of true melee would be a nice start. for instance, some weapons that create projectiles still behave the same as a melee weapon in that the projectiles do not extend out like a normal ranged projectile. For example, the mushroom spear. These weapons should have like.. a half boost from true melee.
With that, more weapons should also only fire projectiles when hitting an enemy.
another idea would be to make it so that when a true melee user is next to an enemy and hitting said enemy, its projectiles do not spawn for a certain amount of time. We can call this mechanic stun time. basically true melee weapons have stun times. for instance, if i have a stun time of one second, it means that when hitting an enemy, i can continue hitting that enemy for an entire second without projectiles. after the stun time is over, you have some time to get away before it starts firing projectiles again.
so, for enemies like the destroyer, i can attack it with a sword for 1 second without projectiles messing me up. contact damage and such will still exist of course. after the stun time is over, the destroyer will be able to laser again after some time. i can continue to try and push it and keep damaging it, or i can move away immediately. stun time will have a cool down of course, you cant just immediately go back to hitting a boss after yoou go away. this would be an interesting way top allow for true melee users to nohit by staying near the enemy but not too close and predicting movement.
just a rough i dea
idea
eternal escarp
...to me the only issue with melee is the obnoxiously high amount of broadswords in general 
oak sage
and this would only apply to melee users
small timber
unless I don't understood, the "blade" portion of projectile melee weapons is still true melee no?
eternal escarp
make more flails, spears, bomerangs iirc
gray nebula
if your true melee sword is just sword that hits hard and has an exageratedly large hitbox itll still be boring and suck
oak sage
melee weapons are pretty cool tbh
gray nebula
frozen hornet
flails my bel
gray nebula
make more melee weapons like the phosphor gauntlets
oak sage
that too
eternal escarp
melee weapons are pretty cool tbh
when they arent the average broadsword projectile, prolly
frozen hornet
Are flails considered true melee actually
gray nebula
actually incorporating movement into the class that requires you to move around??? wow
eternal escarp
make more melee weapons like the phosphor gauntlets
true
gray nebula
eternal escarp
yeah just remove your sugg since its pretty much inplemented
gray nebula
like integrated dash slashes and iframes would rly help (source: mercenary risk of rain)
oak sage
yeah
eternal escarp
didnt play RoR but it truly sounds gaming
grim tusk
Kiting helps a lot on tru meme
frozen hornet
Trapjaw ant jaw but weapon
eternal escarp
byeah just litterally more variety in Melee imo would go a long way
the amount of Batons in this game is ABYSMALLY non existant lo
gray nebula
mercenary risk of rain is a melee 😨 survivor but hes got a lot of quick dashes and has got extra mobility integrated with a base double jump & stuff + he gets a truckload of iframes with his dashes = it works
grim tusk
Melee already has the most weapons lol
small timber
what true melee need is a safe way to enter into melee range without getting blasted, at least not dying immediately, stun mechanic will just have massive downtime due to balance reason
eternal escarp
Typhon's, Sleepy octopod and Dragons Rage
gray nebula
yeah do not add more melee weapons just throw the ones that already exist into the recycler
eternal escarp
yeah do not add more melee weapons just throw the ones that already exist into t...
yeah this exactly
frozen hornet
Wtf is a sleepy octopod
gray nebula
in comes a projectile sword #2403 out comes a cool flail or mace or whatever, something cool
eternal escarp
theres a LOT of fodder funny swords
oak sage
like my inspiration for the idea of Stun Time is literally just from games with better melee mechanics.
furthermore, a majority of enemies in terraria already are unable to fire projectiles when you attack them
eternal escarp
like, Mariana, Aquatic Dissolution, Seashine Sword (enchanted sword lo)
small timber
on normal mobs it is fine, on bosses it is different
worthy lintel
@urban epoch you already misused mod mail yesterday for the same topic, I'll have to warn
oak sage
on normal mobs it is fine, on bosses it is different
ye thats the point of stun time, to implement it in a way that makes it work for all enemies
small timber
it is super hard to put mechanic like that on bosses without massive headache
I don't mean code wise, I mean balance wise
oak sage
yeah. i think some idea similar to my stun time would be better than just iframes, since anything that gives you iframes without a cooldown tends to be abused. and if it does have a cooldown, then its just stun time without contact damage
slime mount iframe cheese my beloved
small timber
I think an alternative is to implement a mechanic to locks you from switching weapon but in some way grant you massive movement bonus for using true melee weapons
basically like above stated, make more true melee become phosphate gaunlet
oak sage
yeah
small timber
stun mechanic... just personal opinion, hard to fit, at least balance wise
oak sage
but again the problem will always be that enemies that fire projectiles continue firing projectiles. and this especially hurts when balancing around nohitting
gray nebula
we dont balance around nohitting
god imagine balancing true melee around nohitting thatd be painful
the stuntime just sounds hard to implement tho & also itd just need a cooldown as well lol..
small timber
most bosses have enough downtime that I can use pointblank ranger in my playthrough
not no hit of course, but downtime exist
(exclude Malice)
oak sage
yeah downtime exists but the problem is that its unpredictable
oak sage
the stuntime just sounds hard to implement tho & also itd just need a cooldown a...
i said itd have a cooldown. the main concept is that youd be able to have a duration of peace from projectile damage
small timber
or just give true melee a "stealth bar", but instead of stealth strike you take less damage when you trigger it
fill less quickly of course
gray nebula
just a split second of protection except in one case its cuz you cant get hit and the other its cuz theres nothing to get hit by
(minus whatever youre attacking) (cringe)
i mean tbh true melee support in a game where most of everything has contact damage is just rly silly
small timber
ya the true melee system currently is just to make them viable, not exactly to be balanced or to some extend an entire new class
sleek wadi
Perhaps allow true melee weapons to swat away projectiles on a cooldown that only goes down while the weapon is out?
small timber
you have to swat a lot of projectile for most bosses for it to function in the way you want it
oak sage
thats what im saying. but i really only think its needed for projectiles because part of being melee is staying close enough but not too close
cause the projectiles are the biggest problem from a gameplay standpoint. stuff like the phosphorus gauntlet knocking you back means nothing when you werent worried about contact damage to begin with
gray nebula
yharonadoes are projectiles
scal moons are projectiles
wed have to implement a bigass list of counterable or not projectiles and thats just painful
sleek wadi
Ah shit right. But the really important projectiles are also super large right? Perhaps a check for hitbox size instead of a whitelist?
gray nebula
thats what im saying. but i really only think its needed for projectiles because...
since no enemies really stay still enough for you to consistently be able to stay in the "safe zone" i think itd be kinda eh oh eh
like if youre fighting duke you're gonna get dashed into if you stray too close
oak sage
since no enemies really stay still enough for you to consistently be able to sta...
not really? thats apart of prediction. you gotta try and sorta follow the enemy
gray nebula
small timber
and also just comparison if you want to true melee yharon you have to swat all projectiles of its bullet hell for it to work, removing a single fireball is not enough at all
gray nebula
i mean yeah but the enemies are spastic as fuck (especially the bosses)
small timber
or you can just wait for his charge downtime
gray nebula
i think iframes is just more lenient and like, given true melee's huge fucking handicap, itd be better to go with the more safe option
would be more fun at least imo
sleek wadi
Speaking of true melee btw, having Yharon slow down during a few of his attacks while holding a true melee weapon would be real nice
small timber
it is either iframe or damage mitigation, if advanced movement manipulation
oak sage
i mean yeah but the enemies are spastic as fuck (especially the bosses)
ye ik this but my point is that we could balance true melee around staying within range but not getting too close. cause the only thing that ruins this idea is projectiles
small timber
otherwise it is super painful to balance (or to make it worth it)
oak sage
and i think some form of invuln is good because otherwise nohitting isnt viable
sleek wadi
We could also just steal WeaponOut's knuckle class 
gray nebula
staying within range but not too close is just kinda very hard to do
like
yharon
mf zips around the screen super fast
sleek wadi
True melee Yharon 
gray nebula
unless you do what 1.5 did and make a lot of true melee weapons look stupidly large
so i wouldnt say its just projectiles
the game just isnt really designed around true melee because yeah.
small timber
half screen large true melee is viable for yharon (real)
sleek wadi
He's either just straight up too fast to catch or the few times he is still he surrounds himself in a ring of oof ouch owies
oak sage
yeah i realize this but fucking i wanna be able to stab yharon to death
gray nebula
so i mean, you could balance true melee around that but itd imply entirely changing how some bosses work or whatever, to give them actual moments where theyre vulnerable and exposed
like the staggers in hk and everything
oak sage
without being hit
gray nebula
but thats kindof a lot of effort, so just balancing around properly zipping in and out of combat with iframes safety is good enough i tihkn
sleek wadi
Meaning you only got the dashes as a chance to hit him in p2
small timber
if you are playing true melee do not expect to not being hit, in fact the entire mod is not designed to not being hit
oak sage
i mean yeah i like that too
gray nebula
and itd make it less about being a hardcore gamer & open up true melee to more people
cuz like
small timber
no hit is dependent on player's skill not by design
oak sage
but thats kindof a lot of effort, so just balancing around properly zipping in a...
yeah i agree with that idea
oak sage
rather it be more accessable. im actually doing a vanilla 1.4 true melee playthrough
with some extra leeway for what counts as true melee but
gray nebula
i mean im just referencing the fun times i had in ror playing mercenary & loader (the two melee survivors from the game) where theyre all about movement and have some special stuff that lets them stay alive (invincibility frames & extra hp barrier when landing strikes respectively)
small timber
final dawn may be a good reference in this case
fossil bronze
if true melee is supposed to be high skill close combat
oak sage
yeah im going off my 1.4 true melee playthrough
fossil bronze
stuff like murasama feels weird as true melee
earnest raptor
I have a creepy feeling than I have seen this conversation before
gray nebula
murasama trollface moment
sleek wadi
Loader barrier but for projectiles exclusively (real)
fossil bronze
murasama is so much range you dont have to stay close
oak sage
stuff like murasama feels weird as true melee
not really since endgame enemies are super dashy and big
gray nebula
bloated to silly looking size because of scal being a coward
anyways i do have one or two ideas for melee weapons but cool but i am working on other stuff rnn... fail
sleek wadi
Just waiting for the angry auric man spear that reaches the left edge of the screen
Nothing special about it, no epic gimmicks, just l o o o n g
oak sage
MAN SPEAR (NOT SEXUAL)
fossil bronze
REAL !
oak sage
JUST LONG AND AURIC
earnest raptor
wed have to implement a bigass list of counterable or not projectiles and thats ...
why not at least try?
earnest raptor
why not just remove tru meme if any good attempt to fix it is too much effort?
gray nebula
