suggestions-discussion

[fossil finch]

Not always

[lean bone]

most of the time

[weak field]

Thorium still has somewhat different style choices

[gray nebula]

they dont look like theyre from different games really

Everyone always going "calamity is not vanlla style xdxlmao" but like

it honestly iisnt that far off

[fossil finch]

They're just higher quality iirc (iirc) (if i remember correctly)

[gray nebula]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/733808275862192208/744449328747118702/NPC_222.gif

(by Jelly)

if calamity used a style that was ACTUALLY diifferent yea id believe the distinction but like cmogn

[gentle chasm]

i retract my previous argument

[keen zealot]

ok sure

[fossil finch]

Reminder you're talking with one of the 0.01% top pixelartists smh

[keen zealot]

by what metric?

if I didn't know these things and you told me that these two armours

coexist in the same part of the same game

I would not believe you

[fossil finch]

A random person on the pixel art channel on the calart server

Well that's like

[gray nebula]

your amount of belief is quite low

[grim tusk]

Also im surprised it hasn’t been mentioned but @novel belfry you need more reasoning. Also this channel already exists for telling that the suggestion already exists/is being implemented

[keen zealot]

[novel belfry]

hmmph

[fossil finch]

I'm surprised it's not exclamaimed

[novel belfry]

should I delete or nah?

[keen zealot]

if you told me that it was from the same series of games I could see it

[fossil finch]

I mean they're from a mod

[keen zealot]

like yeah the second one's from the sequel or some shit

but the same game? no

[fossil finch]

Not the same game

So like

:trolled:

[lean bone]

Stryke is said random person

[fossil finch]

I mean it's just funny joke

[grim tusk]

@zenith hazel bot dead

[zenith hazel]

notified amber

[keen zealot]

a strange arrangement

every time bot dies we notify brav to notify amber

[fossil finch]

Yeah

[hollow shell]

I personally think it is entirely unnecessary because the suggester is almost always pinged here once the ❗ is applied
Usually before the ❗ is applied actually, cuz usually that reaction happens in these cases when the suggester doesn't delete it themselves

[novel belfry]

then fair enough

[wooden wedge]

Why does the latest suggest have !

I never saw the person get pinged for their sugg

[hollow shell]

They did.

.

[wooden wedge]

oh it was just super super far back

[hollow shell]

Yeah it's from like 16 hours ago

17?

[zenith hazel]

bot should be back

[hollow shell]

Nice

[hollow shell]

@gentle chasm Boss suggestions are not allowed.

[gentle chasm]

sweet

[hollow shell]

byeah

We have all our bosses planned out already

[gentle chasm]

and i'm guessing bronze wall isn't planned for that?

[hollow shell]

Nah that's old old history

[gentle chasm]

oof

[hollow shell]

That name has not been mentioned in the dev server.. ever
It was created mid-2018

[gentle chasm]

that sucks, the frozen underworld would've been so cool (pun intended) to see

wow

[hollow shell]

I never even knew about that plan

[novel belfry]

hmmph

[gentle chasm]

wait so the frozen underworld could still be a possibility?

[hollow shell]

Hell no

[gentle chasm]

ok

[hollow shell]

We have other somewhat big underworld plans
Or more specifically, crag plans

[gentle chasm]

like making the crags span over a larger area of the underworld?

[hollow shell]

mhm

[gentle chasm]

cool

[hollow shell]

Whole thing's gettin reworked

In the future.
Right now we're focusing on Draedon and related content

[gentle chasm]

aight

so would it be fine if i steal the whole frozen underworld idea?

[hollow shell]

For your own mod? Sure

[gentle chasm]

yeah

[hollow shell]

Calamity didn't come up with the concept, it's a saying.

[gentle chasm]

ok

yeah

ik

[novel belfry]

frozen underworld would be interesting though

[hollow shell]

Unsuggestible

Huge scope.

[crude geode]

#suggestions-posting message
Surprised this is still up when it’s completely possible to reach the bottom of the abyss without bubble

[novel belfry]

i was not suggesting

[hollow shell]

@faint kindle Do not post joke suggestions.

[novel belfry]

I don't really like Mega's sugg, since that bubble is already very useless to most players anyways

[grim tusk]

Noh*tting

[keen zealot]

additionally I don't really see the point of gatekeeping Terminus

if you use it, you get fucked unless you're near the end of the game anyway

someone uses it once, goes "oh, I'll save that for later" and that's it

[sleek wadi]

Not like you can outskill terminus either, the bosses don't drop anything so no somehow getting idk Golem drops early.

[keen zealot]

yeah

first boss is queen bee which is insane-o hard for even late hardmode gear
it's not a question of if but rather when you get hit and die

[crude geode]

@hollow shell There’s been a couple of flaws brought up about the terminus/Amidias bubble and zen pot suggestion, and the suggestor hasn’t responded yet

[hollow shell]

Hasn't responded? Wasn't there a pretty lengthy discussion about the sugg when it was posted?

[crude geode]

There was, but more things have been brought up, such as the fact that you can actually reach the bottom of the abyss without the bubble

even with only pre-hm gear

[grim tusk]

Also bot shitted itself again

[keen zealot]

damn 😔

[grim tusk]

@zenith hazel bot died (again)

[hollow shell]

@vernal epoch Did you see this?

[zenith hazel]

notified amber

[vernal epoch]

yes i still think the bubble should be changed

[hollow shell]

Okay

It would be preferred that you include something in your suggestion to acknowledge that

like a counter-argument

Such as

The fact that Cursed's loadout was
"Arctic Diving Gear, Depths Charm, Iron Boots, Anechoic Plating, Ocean Crest, and Victide Armor with only the Zen buff."
which includes all of the Abyss loot and a post-Calamitas item nvm

whereas the bubble is post-DS only

[crude geode]

None of that is post clonelamitas

[hollow shell]

mb, misread

Not Abyssal Diving Gear

[crude geode]

Ye

[hollow shell]

but uh still, much more extensive

[crude geode]

Zen potions are the real problem, as it lets you ignore all of the enemies in the abyss

Including the mini-bosses which are what really makes the final layers dangerous

And it’s what makes the bubble “no risk” (even tho falling scoria debris still exist)

Without zen potion, your bubble is going to be broken pretty easily by cuttlefish just backstabbing you, or eels going through walls and surprising you

@vernal epoch I am fine with the idea of Terminus only being accessible later, I just don’t think nerfing bubble is the right way to go about it, as zen is what actually allows you to easily reach the bottom of the abyss.

[hollow shell]

🤷‍♀️

You can write up your own suggestion about-

wait hang on

[sleek wadi]

I like terminus being theoretically accessible at any point, serves as a neat challenge and terminus can't cause any progression breaks

[crude geode]

Indeed, to me it’s fine either way.

[vernal epoch]

cant change zen potions tho

they are good but able to be abused

[crude geode]

You can though?

[vernal epoch]

well you can

but i think zen potions are fine

[hollow shell]

Okay, I knew I remembered something about this

This is from 2019

The feature got removed sometime before Aug 2020
https://calamitymod.fandom.com/wiki/Zen_Potion?type=revision&diff=117209&oldid=109883

[crude geode]

Wack

Should still be in tbfh

[vernal epoch]

wait so it does or doesnt work in abyss?

does

[hollow shell]

As evidenced by your own testimonies, I'd say that it does

[crude geode]

If zen potions can be abused by bubble to reach the bottom of the abyss, it can also be used by other things such as the gear from the abyss

(Also since zen potions are post slime god, I’d argue the zen+bubble is later game than just abyss gear, if you can manage to get all the way down without zen pot)

[vernal epoch]

they dont require core of eleum do they?

[hollow shell]

Nah, they did in the past iirc

[crude geode]

Zen pots require purified gel from slime god

Tranquility candle needs core of eleum but that doesn’t particularly work in the abyss

[vernal epoch]

i still think the bubble should pop

but

it would be useless for that change to happen if other things relating to the bottom of the abyss were left the same

[crude geode]

Why? What reasoning is there for the bubble to pop as of now?

[vernal epoch]

the suggestion would have to ask to change more things

to justify the bubble pop

make the bottom of the abyss more uninhabitable in general

so zen potions being less effective there

possibly all breathing accessories

[crude geode]

[vernal epoch]

having less effect that low down

[crude geode]

Breathing accessories already have less effect

It’s why you lose breath even with a ocean few at

Crest*

[vernal epoch]

then maybe even the addition on top of all that for some lategame breathing accessories

that let you get down there

but that would all be too much

[crude geode]

Bubble is the only thing that gives you infinite breath specifically to help a bit with abyss exploration early game, until a single enemy inevitably touches you and it pops.

Zen potion negates the “no-hit” downside of it by making it so (nearly) nothing spawns

[vernal epoch]

yes

[crude geode]

If you wanna change your suggestion to nerfing zen potion, it would hold the same logic (keeping the lower abyss more dangerous).

[vernal epoch]

i might

change the whole suggestion to re-introduce the reduced zen potion effectiveness in the abyss

since that was a thing before

[wooden wedge]

if it was in the mod before but removed then you can't suggest that it's re-added iirc

[vernal epoch]

youre right

oh well

[crude geode]

Do we even know the reason zen potion nerf in the abyss was removed?

@hollow shell

[hollow shell]

Well

That Don't mainly exists for major features or full items/entities that got the boot
A minor balance change like this should be fine

Judging by my edit message on the wiki, I didn't even know that it got removed
I just decided to fact check it one time and found that it wasn't there

Was it ever there? I do not know.

[crude geode]

How odd

[hollow shell]

Okay it at least existed at one point

[fossil finch]

Damn what a suggestion
I'm sure no dev ever thought of it after all the reports of abyss not working on xl worlds and all that
Now they will proceed to immediately make it work automagically

When the sugg is s

[grim tusk]

This is more of a bug rather than a sugg

Go to #bugs-read-pins

[fossil finch]

A bug that's known

[grim tusk]

@bitter abyss

[fossil finch]

So there's no much point on reporting it again and all that

[bitter abyss]

I'm not only talking about Abyss.
I'm speaking for every biome.

[fossil finch]

Still

[grim tusk]

Same thing is just that abyss is the biggest biome atm

And thus more noticeable

[fossil finch]

I'm not even sure you can properly support xl worlds

[sleek turret]

That's one of the questions.

[bitter abyss]

You never know before you try. Devs ain't talking much about it too.

[fossil finch]

Idk how went ozza's attempts at fixing the abyss bug in the first place
Or if they even got to it

[sleek turret]

Although I do support the idea of XL words.

[fossil finch]

Don't lie kaizo you're an speedrunner and a low% runner both go against using worlds bigger than 1x1 block

[sleek turret]

calls me a speedrunner
no register of speedruns

[grim tusk]

[sleek turret]

I just did the low% .txt theoric stuff

[distant gyro]

in speedrun server therefore speedrunner

[fossil finch]

Ok but
Your honor

kaizo

What altix said

Anyways what were we in

[sleek turret]

Fair.

[fossil finch]

Oh yeah could

Could a dev

Or someone

Ask a dev
To see like
If you can even support xl worlds at all

[grim tusk]

Dom and Ozz are the worldgen devs iirc

[fossil finch]

At both

I'm not sure if ozz tried fixing the abyss thing but i know he has talked about it

also I obviously don't know how much work this would actually take but wouldn't it probably be a lot of work sugg to support a relatively small portion of players

[bitter abyss]

small?
like 40% of players are using 64 bits ig.

including myself.

[fossil finch]

And the 2683% of people make random statistics

[bitter abyss]

can you stop being jerk?
i'm just telling you the estimated number imo.

[fossil finch]

We clearly can't poll the entire modding community but chances are it's a minority because most players won't bother getting the 64 bit version (there's also a portion that maybe doesn't even know it exists)

Ok but like

That estimation is probably not close to reality

It's what im saying

[grim tusk]

I have 64 bit but it i have so much issues with res and lag that i use 32 bits instead

Specially res issues

[grim tusk]

And yea

[bitter abyss]

who even cares about for small group of ppl it is or not.
the fact dev can just look into it and say: "yeah, i can do that, why not"

[grim tusk]

Devs barely even look here

[fossil finch]

Maybe they're busy working on things that are actually impactful though

[grim tusk]

The only ones you see semi-often are also moderators

[grim tusk]

And yea they are busy working on 1.5 atm

[bitter abyss]

ok, another question.
how many suggested things were added ever?
no need of exact numbers.

[grim tusk]

Last analysis was April of this year, lemme find it

[bitter abyss]

at least dolos is adequate

[fossil finch]

I'm not even sure if this sugg is breaking or not the bug thing don't but it's not in my eyes so anyways whenever rover connects he decides that

[grim tusk]

#suggestions-discussion message January 9th, I wonder when Philo will make the next analysis

[fossil finch]

The number is less important than the actual suggs i think

Because most of those are small stuff

[wooden wedge]

I thought the latest sugg was already a thing

Or at least low priority

[fossil finch]

I mean abyss is still bugged but idk anything else about xl worlds

[bitter abyss]

ic.
not bad.

[wooden wedge]

I mean for later updates

[fossil finch]

ig ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

The sugg's valid anyways so like

[eternal escarp]

prolly never

[fossil finch]

wdym january 9th that message is sept 1

[frozen hornet]

Ye that's september 2nd for me (because timezones)

[exotic stag]

timezones sayin jan 09 because dd/mm/yyyy

[fossil finch]

that's not how it works

:la:

[gray nebula]

well i mean """that one mech ring"""" is quite cool already i ithnik wouldnt you agree i mean im sure that no one would really find any other appearance as nice and appealing as the current one since its so awesome right

[eternal escarp]

if you need to guess yourself on the reason you give

then uh

the reason is likely not the greatest there is

[gray nebula]

[eternal escarp]

this is basically

"its be cool"

[fossil finch]

damn i like uh yeah like then uh yeah lol the thing is yeah

[eternal escarp]

in big words

[fossil finch]

wouldn't this fall on the "too much effort" don't

[ashen warren]

Isn’t flamsteed dev weapon or smth

[eternal escarp]

it is

[spring lantern]

not exactly. Giant Death Robot from Sid Meyer's Civilisation 6 is even cute - it even has something like hare's eyes

[eternal escarp]

Iban's, to be precise

[spring lantern]

im not suggesting weapon, that's the catch

[fossil finch]

you're suggesting vanity for a dev weapon though

and like, the dev would have to like
approve the change

and like

you just saw his comment on the matter

:trolling:

[hollow shell]

Flamsteed is a dedicated dev weapon yes

[ashen warren]

Making variations to a weapon dedicated to a developer is prohibited without the developer’s approval iirc

[hollow shell]

Customizability would be...

weird

[eternal escarp]

tbf your reason is kindof just

an overworded "itd be cool"

[gray nebula]

"""""that one mech ring""""""

i would type out barks buti t would be too hilaroious for this channel

[hollow shell]

And yeah the reasoning is super lacking

[fossil finch]

literally the only mech ring in the game and one of the coolest weapons so far because yeah lo

[hollow shell]

"We should be able to customize the appearance of a dev item"
'Why?'
"Because in Calamity, you can choose which order you want to fight bosses in."

[fossil finch]

anyways when do we get flamsteed ring subclass
That'd be actually good
and flamsteed ring stays as the coolest one

[gray nebula]

i mean if yo uwant customizability you could always ask for mech class (mech class) that would be funny and cool

i agree

[ashen warren]

Technological magical summoner would be a cool class I think

[spring lantern]

not mech class, but i got the idea

maybe family of weapons behaving like it will work just fine&

?

[gray nebula]

if theres a mech class it means we can get a deus drop named deux ex machina which would be quite funny i think which justifies the existence of a whole class

[fossil finch]

~~also it's funny because the same logic could be applied to every sprite in the game "yeah i want it to look different"

holy shit

[fossil finch]

factual

[ashen warren]

Mfw thorium shapeshifting but it’s calamity summoner

[fossil finch]

true

((9which means it's cooler)

[spring lantern]

its a joke, I got it

[gray nebula]

no i mean like

it would be really cool (but also it would not happen because of the effort required sadly)

[spring lantern]

effort\outcome is the case here

[eternal escarp]

70 hours to code the weapon moment

[fossil finch]

me omw to learn C# so i can make calamity addon number infinity and it's just mech summon subclass

[quaint valve]

[eternal escarp]

the effort is for a very very minor and small and unneeded outcome here in that case

[quaint valve]

yeah

[fossil finch]

i mean calamity having a whole subclass of active weapons like flamsteed ring would've cool byeah

[jovial spire]

Too little effort to time ratio

[eternal escarp]

would be, wont lie
but personally i think Flamsteed being unique is what makes it cooler

[fossil finch]

true,,.,

[quaint valve]

yeah

[jovial spire]

Also, yeah, what blast said

[fossil finch]

i mean flamsteed can stay the coolest out of them reasoning: it's flamsteed byeah

anyways what was this sugg again

[eternal escarp]

disagreeing with the dedicatee.... no way.....

the sugg isnt related to this subconvo anyways so

trol

[gray nebula]

yea true but also mechs 🥺

[fossil finch]

actually god strat

[eternal escarp]

omw to transform into the twins destroyer or sprime mechs for a summoner weapon

[fossil finch]

someone makes that deus ex machina thing a donator item

[eternal escarp]

too late iirc

[fossil finch]

:infinitebrain:

[eternal escarp]

(deus ex machina scp 2000 refrence wtf no way,..,.,.)

[gray nebula]

scp restart

[fossil finch]

anyways squirrelfart has been typing for a long time and i wonder
Is it a shitpost?
Is it a sugg that ends in a "ok sure"
Is it neither?

is it a buff squirrel squire sugg?

[eternal escarp]

ender has been speculating for s long time

and i wonder

[fossil finch]

long time

[eternal escarp]

will they stop caring?
will they be patient?
will they let them finish?
is it non of the above?

[quaint valve]

Vsauce music starts playing

[fossil finch]

i didn't even take a minute to write those

smh

(or did i?)
(what is time)

[eternal escarp]

truth..

[spring lantern]

it is

[spring lantern]

noice

[eternal escarp]

(he was being sarcastic)

[spring lantern]

i dont remember that

[eternal escarp]

((they are litterally still typing in #suggestions-posting ))

[spring lantern]

a ok

[spring lantern]

what he/she had suggested previously?

[eternal escarp]

why would

i know

i dont stalk random people

[fast viper]

Add viable and interesting alternatives to healing potions

The health potion is probably the most important consumable in the game (especially during bossfights or combat), yet the implementation of it is somewhat lacking. You press a button and get healed, and a timer is put into place to prevent you from spamming the potions. While simplistic and easy-to-understand, this implementation is very uninteresting and leads to stale gameplay that mostly boils down to "press the quick-heal button sometimes to not die".

A viable alternative to healing potions that are more unique from the "press button to not die, sometimes" could help breathe life into a rather boring part of Terraria's gameplay.

Some possible ideas include:

• A healing item that puts you through an animation, requiring you to find an opportune moment to use it
• A healing item that requires you to fulfill criteria in order to receive the healing (for example, doing enough damage/landing true melee strikes/not getting hit)
• An item that uses the same timer as health potions with an equal or possibly greater defensive power than just healing (something similar in concept to purified jam)

this good?

[fossil finch]

uuh

[eternal escarp]

you should mention Bloodfins which are, while still a press-to-heal, unique in a way

same with Honey Bottles (in cal, where they give Honeyed buff)

[fossil finch]

something something relic of your mom

[fast viper]

relic of convergence sux

[eternal escarp]

relic of conversion iirc

that

ye its

bad

too sloe and healing is abyssmal for the tier it is in

[fossil finch]

it's being buffed next update

[eternal escarp]

troll

[fossil finch]

and even then it's still your first example

[fast viper]

also sand elemental is worth bringing up but i dont believe most people actually realise how good it is

[fossil finch]

the fact it's bad is a whole other issue

[eternal escarp]

ye but we arent in the next update yet so we cant really speak about its stats

[fossil finch]

ok but refer to what i just said

it still exists ( so it should be mentioned)

it being bad is another issue

[eternal escarp]

yeah you would gain better points if you refer to the few alresdy existing variations

it will give a bigger basis as to why they are helpful and inpirtant

[fast viper]

mhmm ok

[eternal escarp]

alternatives like Honey Bottles, Restoration Potions, Wine, Bloodfins

and wholely new items like Rune of converblah

[fossil finch]

margarite also counts ig?

it does heal you

wait was it margarite

can't remember all the names

[eternal escarp]

i think its only wine

[fossil finch]

pain

[eternal escarp]

idk im not very knowledged in cirrus drinks

[fossil finch]

yes margarita does heal you

and is the immunity GOD

used to, anyway

[fast viper]

Add viable and interesting alternatives to healing potions

The health potion is probably the most important consumable in the game (especially during bossfights or combat), yet the implementation of it is somewhat lacking. You press a button and get healed, and a timer is put into place to prevent you from spamming the potions. While simplistic and easy-to-understand, this implementation is very uninteresting and leads to stale gameplay that mostly boils down to "press the quick-heal button sometimes to not die".

There are a few alternative healing potions that we currently have, such as Bottled Honey, Bloodfins, Wine, Margarita and Restoration Potions, but they're still very similar to the base health potion and the essence of the items still are "press a button to not die". Other methods of healing, such as the Relic of Convergence, the Rare Sand Elemental, or even lifesteal and regeneration are used in conjunction with healing potions and don't really remedy the issue of the staleness of health potion gameplay.

Possible ideas for alternatives include:

• A healing item that requires you to fulfill criteria in order to receive the healing (for example, doing enough damage/landing true melee strikes/not getting hit)
• An item that uses the same timer as health potions with an equal or possibly greater defensive power than just healing (something similar in concept to purified jam)

[eternal escarp]

should be good tbh

[hollow shell]

Yeah looks good

I liked the idea of proactive "healing"/defense, as opposed to reactionary healing

I'm not sure how the first 'alternative' is different from lifesteal?

[exotic stag]

same here

second idea just sounds like a buff potion kind of?

like endurance

[hollow shell]

Yeah
Difference being that they would activate Potion Sickness

so would likely have much greater but more temporary effects

like
super high DR for a few seconds

[exotic stag]

mhm

i mean still acts like a buff potion

but i guess thats like a supercharged buff potions

[lean bone]

what about a potion that lets you dodge like a black belt or tabi but better but the downside is it lowers defence to encourage not getting hit?

[hollow shell]

Indeed. The important part here is it giving Potion Sickness, as that's what turns it into an alternative to Healing Potions

[exotic stag]

i mean potion sickness can be given to anything.

[hollow shell]

mhm

[fast viper]

first option isn't "technically" lifesteal, just the criteria of doing damage makes it super similar to lifesteal

[lean bone]

How about potions That give insane buffs but with an equal downsides

[fast viper]

besides, the idea of trying to stack conditional buffs or building higher damage ironically at the cost of lower defense to try to get the most out of a potion-sickness "lifesteal" potion is a pretty interesting one

[hollow shell]

Cirrus drinks.

[lean bone]

oh i forgot

[fossil finch]

alcohols are in fact that

[lean bone]

a meant something like a craftable potion that gives stuff like black belt dodging but reduces wing time or something

[fossil finch]

you can only have 3 (2 if you use everclear) and they all have downsides

[fast viper]

anyways, i posted the sugg

[grim tusk]

“Black belt dodging” alch npc moment. Also would be busted as it is on that mod

Also iirc there isnt any flight reducing drink

[hollow shell]

True
There are only lore items

[grim tusk]

Rav lore is the only one (50% reduced flight )

[hollow shell]

which will no longer be a thing

Doesn't PBG do something too?

[grim tusk]

PBG increases flight at cost of regen

[hollow shell]

Ah

so yeah I guess there's opportunity there

[exotic stag]

i feel like i can explain the reasoning for most lore items having their effects lol

PBG: its a plague so your withering away your regen via the plague. but its a bee so you would gain increased wingtime from the bee..

[fossil finch]

you can't they're sekiro references

:9head:

[exotic stag]

sekiro references or not. imagination

[fossil finch]

they're mostly related to the boss yeah

exceptions exist e.g cryogen

[exotic stag]

i mean cryogen could be his charge but then again most bosses have a charge

[grim tusk]

why is cryo lore so strong

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[eternal escarp]

a potion that instead of increasing HP in a gulp, increases Defense drastically in a gulp, but it also depletes about 15 seconds later or smthn

[hollow shell]

yes Blast

[eternal escarp]

maybe a potion that increases movement speed drastically and a small amount of HP, different healing pots for different platstyles

[exotic stag]

im imagining rn a potion made with shadowspec and every potion (vanilla) to make the ultimate potion lul

[eternal escarp]

thats what i think of specific ideas in relation to this byeah

nothing that increases damage though because theres enough of that kekw

[exotic stag]

yes

theres already enough accessories for that

[eternal escarp]

and potions

[fossil finch]

defense damage healing pot

[eternal escarp]

oh yeah defense damage is

close to that idea

actually defense damage buffs could be interesting as a major alternative

but thats 1.5 stuff so

cant suggest much about it

[fast viper]

there's plenty of cool ideas for potions that you can do

[eternal escarp]

a healing potion that produces stealth instead of HP for rogues.. ig

theres enough ideas basically and the idea gets across ig

[fast viper]

yeah the uh, the press button to not die is pretty good but the concept itself makes me want to fall asleep

[eternal escarp]

something as an alternative to healing but still usable to different playstyles / to suggest different playstyles

iirc thorium has healing items that increase stats like this but can only be eaten in the hotbar

[exotic stag]

how about a potion that grants a 100% chance to crit but lowers your defense drastically

[eternal escarp]

granted they had their own special timer and were different to healing potions

[eternal escarp]

glass cannon moment (honestly theres enough of glass cannon stuff tbh)

adding so many damage variables like that will just be pain

[exotic stag]

okay so uh. drastically increased defense but barely any movement speed

[eternal escarp]

and or useless about halfway to the game with some classess

[fast viper]

yall suggesting potions that sound just like demonshade set bonus

or brimflame bonus, actually

[eternal escarp]

yeah

[fast viper]

also we kind of have like twenty glass cannon potions

[fossil finch]

i mean i don't think terraria needs a healing system where they take you to play osu and solve modded portal puzzles to heal every time

[eternal escarp]

also this is basiclaly just a cirrus drink tro

[fast viper]

i mean yeah but it is very barebones even if its simplicity can be appreciated

[fossil finch]

(as in, it doesn't need to be ultra interesting because at the end it is just healing)
more interesting ways are always good so yeah

[exotic stag]

trol

[eternal escarp]

maybe a small like

"hit the button in the right time to gain maximum healing potential" short ""minigame"" on specific potions

[fast viper]

i've been playing games with more interesting healing systems and i definitely prefer them

[eternal escarp]

like Undertales Ballerina Shoes iirc

or uh

i dont have more example

[fast viper]

i remember a game, think it was eldest souls, in order to regain health you needed to "charge" your weapon and release it to get in a specific state where you'd get lifesteal on all your attacks

granted, it was melee combat so it wouldnt translate 1:1 to terraria, but it was still super interesting

you needed to play defensively to access your healing (until you entered lifesteal mode, then you go aggressive as fuck), as well as save all your on-timer abilities to try to get the most out of it

[exotic stag]

dauntless has an interesting healing system aswell.

[sleek turret]

I like the idea of alternate healing potions, I think of something like Bloodfin's regen buffs except remove the healing and increase the regen.

[fast viper]

have a potion that's just regen 🗿

[exotic stag]

actually we could turn potions into quick time events where if you failed you would get a weakened thing

like take the 250 healing potion for example. if you landed the bar in the middle you get an extra 50.

in the white (meaning avg) you get 250

in the red (non-avg or good) you get 200

[fast viper]

ok probably not that

maybe for a slower-paced game, but terraria is still pretty fast

[exotic stag]

i mean its a good though

thought*

[sleek turret]

hp potion rhythm game

[fast viper]

i would not want to be playing rhythm games in the middle of scal bullet hell

[sleek turret]

rhythm doctor except holy shit I can't

[exotic stag]

i mean my idea was good

[fast viper]

you dont need to defend the idea but it does at least fulfill the thought of "do something to heal"

cuz pressing one button isn't really "something" but playing a minigame technically is

the problem with a minigame is that they usually aren't integrated that well in to the main game, which is why people don't like them

see: trying to play rhythm doctor in scal bullet hell

[weak field]

Or just something close to PoE where potions can become a good part of your power with some grinding and modifiers and synergizing equipment and so on, but that's way too much work

[low remnant]

Hey, was just wondering if it would be okay to add a 'Rare' or 'Rare Item Variant' tag to those kinds of weapons?

something akin to how legendary weapons have the 'Legendary' tag, I think it would clarify that they're particularly rare

[fossil finch]

something something malice changes make them challenge drops though the tag thing would still be valid technically but it'd be better if you wait until 1.5 releases because referring to them as rivs would be pointless because they're fundamentally changed entirely but at the same time "future update content" don't kinda limits you from actually referring them as challenge drops in your sugg so it's better if you come back later to sugg this again if they don't have those tags

[low remnant]

all righty, cool. Ta for feedback 👍

[fossil finch]

now the question is if they have those tags next update anyways because as you mentioned legendaries do

[hollow shell]

(Spoilers, all challenge drops will be getting tooltip tags)

[fossil finch]

well then

[silver silo]

Is asking for jungle corruption immunity a “don’t”

[grim tusk]

iirc yes

just use BegoneEvil

[silver silo]

Well its less an issue with corruption as a whole and more just that jungle corruption is irreversible making you lose a progression biome

[keen zealot]

yes but that only becomes a problem when you play for hundreds of hours in one world and do jack shit to stop the spread

[silver silo]

Not really, I did a very short playthrough with a friend and the jungle was almost deleted by the time we got to yharon, even when I spent time clentaminating

Surface jungle that is

[keen zealot]

well yes but surface jungle means little to nothing and is easily replaceable by the time you might want/need it

it's super hard to lose the underground jungle, and you need it much earlier

[silver silo]

Maybe, but my thought process is I’d rather not have the risk of losing it at all than simply it being slow

Everything else is reversible but the jungle isn’t, so it seems a little odd

It’s also kinda inconsistent because hallow won’t convert mud but world evils will

[glossy reef]

Here's an idea

Yharon should drop auric ore

[silver silo]

Don’t we already get enough from mining?

[glossy reef]

True but even though it spawns in generous quantities it's still finite

[sleek turret]

cmon dude at that point you alredy have like a ton of auric

[glossy reef]

And if/when the game is updated to go on past Scal, you'll most likely need auric for future recipes

[silver silo]

It might be finite but there’s more than enough to make everything you could need easily

If it comes to that point I’m sure they’d introduce something, ore slimes exist after all

[sleek turret]

you don't need every single item that requires auric

that includes dev weapons considering SCal can drop them atm

[glossy reef]

An ore slime feels too mundane for such a godly ore

Yharon is a jungle god, it makes thematic sense

[still zodiac]

Not really

Auric spawns more than enough

[silver silo]

Considering they plan to remove much of the requirements for auric bars outside of the ore and yharon soul, I doubt they’d just decide to include auric bars in future stuff

[still zodiac]

In fact it's very generous

[sleek turret]

auric ore is generous when it comes to its ore veins

[still zodiac]

Even if they do it's not that big of an issue

[sleek turret]

as I said before you don't need every single auric item

[glossy reef]

Alright consider this

[silver silo]

Right but it’s probably unlikely

[glossy reef]

If the game is expanded, there won't be room for other ores

[silver silo]

It’s more likely that you’ll just use auric items/armour themselves in recipes rather than more bars

[still zodiac]

I mean

I doubt there will be mining session later into Post-ML

Atleast post-Yharon

Though who knows how they will expand on Post-ML content

[silver silo]

If they moved aerialite to be in the air there’d be more room

[glossy reef]

Aw man but i like mining from hardmode onwards

[still zodiac]

If you want to suggest Yharon dropping it, go ahead. I don't think it breaks any rules?

But like

I personally don't see any reason for that

[sleek turret]

aerialite out of nowhere appears in the sky as soon it reaches space layer

[silver silo]

I don’t think it would make the game worse at least, surely y’all can agree that

Having him drop auric

It just isn’t exactly necessary either

[still zodiac]

It's just unnecessary

[glossy reef]

Nah whatever it was a stupid idea

[still zodiac]

Someone suggested slime god dropping auric ore post Yharon

[silver silo]

Isn’t there already random prehardmode ores in planetoids anyway?

[still zodiac]

Yup

[silver silo]

Why not replace it with aerialite and have aero slimes spawn there too

🤨

[still zodiac]

Idk

[silver silo]

Also speaking of slime god he should get a buff in hardmode considering we’re gonna get queen slime who is stronger than it lol

[still zodiac]

Nah

That's a lore moment

[glossy reef]

I honestly fail to see how slime god is more fitting to drop auric than yharon is

[still zodiac]

Also why would he get a buff in HM

When canonically it's dead by the time we get in HM

Because we kill it

[silver silo]

I mean you could say the same about ravager

Post providence

[still zodiac]

Gameplay

🤷‍♂️

[glossy reef]

And brimstone elemental

[silver silo]

Gameplay moment

[glossy reef]

And cal clone

[silver silo]

Anyway just a thought

In terms of serious suggestions move aerialite ore ty

[silver silo]

I checked, we had 53 hours in our play through and that’s taking into account actual attempts to prevent it

[grim tusk]

#suggestions-voting message i wonder why it says #deleted-channel rather than here

[dapper coral]

donde

[dapper coral]

seems like a you problem iirc

[sleek turret]

probably discord mobile just piss and shitting itself

[dapper coral]

^

[grim tusk]

Yea probably

[silver silo]

what else is new

[lean bone]

hey the bot doesnt work

[grim tusk]

It hasnt been a day since the suggs on #suggestions-posting have been posted

[hollow shell]

Nah, there was a scam

Whitelist didn't auto-delete it for some reason

[grim tusk]

Oh that one people pinged Ein multiple times, got late to see

[hollow shell]

@buoyant torrent Modded achievements are not possible yet
In Calamity at least

We are not ready to port to 1.4.

[buoyant torrent]

ho i saw in #mod-announcements that they said its supports it and i thought they might start thinking about it

[hollow shell]

That'd be a future content sugg, which is disallowed
just like suggesting changes to things that are in #changelogs

[hollow shell]

Hmm

[wooden wedge]

Hmm?

[hollow shell]

You failed to mention two of its aspects, @left ice
One being that you get standing-still health regen regardless of whether you're moving or not
and its damage aura

The mobile health regen is potentially very strong, as you can dodge while regenerating a lot of health at the same time

[wooden wedge]

just readd in the bug to where the camper works when you're moving and doesn't work when you sit still

[left ice]

I suppose. The regen buff while moving is overpowered by the inability to deal damage during that time, though, I feel like. As for the damage aura, the wiki doesn’t actually list the DPS, just the total damage, so I can’t make a claim on that.

[dapper blaze]

they aren't possible yet*

there's no buts

they just don't exist yet

[left ice]

But… he did say yet…

[hollow shell]

Yeah apologies that the wiki doesn't seem to properly document all its effects

[dapper blaze]

#suggestions-discussion message

[hollow shell]

I'll make it so it at least mentions then

[left ice]

That’s fine. The wiki for Calamity is still better than most mods, even if it does have issues.

[dapper blaze]

calamity wiki is goated

[left ice]

For reference, what is the DPS of the aura? It appears to just be a default Calamity on fire debuff of -4/s, but some things change after all. Either way, by the time you get that accessory, -4/s from on fire is likely either already in effect (fire gauntlet, etc) or negligible -4/s when doing several k DPS is minimal.

[hollow shell]

After looking into it, the aura deals about 200 DPS

And it looks like it has a radius of 12.5 blocks

(so a 25x25 block (aka 400x400 pixel) circular area centered on the player)

Correct me if this doesn't line up with what you see in-game, I have personally never used the Camper's damage aura before

((It also inflicts On Fire))

[left ice]

Ah, the on fire is on top of the aura? I thought the on fire was the aura.

Well, +204 DPS is at least decent for that stage of the game, but given the fact that you have to be near an enemy to inflict it (and while being unable to move, assuming you want the buffs)…

[sleek wadi]

+200 DPS is way too low for the risk and stage of the game

[hollow shell]

Well, "near" as in 12.5 blocks away

It's probably enough to kill any normal enemy coming near you

[sleek wadi]

It'd kill OOA mobs I guess

If you're feeling like cosplaying as a lighting aura staff that day

[hollow shell]

I'll go ask the wiki people to make an image/gif of the aura's size

[left ice]

I can roughly visualize the size since I’ve been doing a lot of building with the tile measurement effect active recently. It depends on how fast enemies come at you and their health for lower enemies. For enemies of that stage of the game (plantera dungeon, pillars, etc.) have ~1k health, so it would fair decently against (though likely not kill them without damage being inflicted without using a weapon). But on bosses…

[weak field]

How about just filling the shrine chests with corresponding shrine item

[left ice]

I might support additional shrines for larger worlds. On large worlds, one shrine in the entire world is largely up to luck. You can easily go an entire playthrough without finding most of the shrines.

[weak field]

You can but you can also go through an entire world if you want the shrine items

[hollow sierra]

i dont mind the difficulty of finding the shrines as i usually plan on fully exploring playthrough worlds anyway, my issue is entirely contained within what i described in my suggestion

[weak field]

So how about my solution

Just a chest full of that one shrine item

[hollow sierra]

it is a valid option

[weak field]

If that's not enough for a playthrough, you might have too many players

[hollow shell]

Better yet, an infinitely re-usable item that gives you the shrine item

As filling the chest with the item doesn't give you infinitely many

[weak field]

Wouldn't that just be bobux generator

[hollow shell]

Well we'd make the shrine items sell for nothing

[hollow sierra]

i didn't really want to discuss solutions since letting the devs come up with their own is usually the way to go

[hollow shell]

Yes true

[weak field]

I guess

[hollow shell]

Your suggestion is fine

[exotic stag]

infinitely reusable potion or maybe something like a toggle instead of just "you use the item and its gone but it used it for every player"

[cobalt pewter]

@ashen warren no.

[hollow shell]

@ashen warren Keep each of your suggestions in separate messages, and make sure you provide extensive reasoning for each of them

Also, do not make suggestions about Malice until it's actually in the game (i.e. 1.5 releases)

[ashen warren]

Alr I'll repost them

[hollow shell]

(The Sentinels tag-team boss is also unlikely, but
I guess you can try if you want)

[serene berry]

ok

[exotic stag]

bruh

did you not read what was said above

@ashen warren not enough reasoning as to "why"

[hollow shell]

"It would be cool"
"it'll be epic and fun"

Pretty subjective and insubstantial

[ashen warren]

It would be challenging

[exotic stag]

still not enough reasoning..

[hollow shell]

Does DoG need to be harder?

[ashen warren]

Plus sentinels are better than a cosmic guardian

[exotic stag]

also arent death and rev getting changed entirely?

[ashen warren]

Yes

[hollow shell]

Okay, you might be onto something with Cosmic Guardians

[exotic stag]

i mean cosmic guardians are cool

they are literally named guardian.

[hollow shell]

They have zero lore significance and are very boring, just flying worms

[ashen warren]

Yup

[sleek wadi]

Cosmic Guardians are just wyverns

[hollow shell]

The sentinels returning mid-fight would make more sense

but

[ashen warren]

This what we need

[hollow shell]

It'd be pretty redundant considering Sentinels phase of the fight already exists

[crude geode]

I feel like we’ve demonstrated that shoving bosses into other bosses isn’t the best idea (providence)

[hollow shell]

It could get pretty chaotic yeah

[crude geode]

Especially when you consider all three sentinels at once would be fucking hell to dodge, in addition to the things dog already does

[ashen warren]

Like the devourer of the cosmos should be able to revive his minions if he is almost dying

[exotic stag]

and plus we cant forget enrage

[hollow shell]

@serene berry Do not make achievement suggestions. Calamity is not ported to tMod 1.4 yet.

[serene berry]

oh sorry

[exotic stag]

you defeated them twice..

[serene berry]

didnt know :/

just thought it would be cool

sorry

[ashen warren]

They will team up with final form D.O.G

And it revengence mode

[sleek wadi]

DoG himself would need a reworking should the sentinels join mid fight. All of the sentinels punish being grounded and DoG wants you on the ground so you get boned either way

[exotic stag]

uh zero.

you defeated them TWICE

[ashen warren]

Yes

Ik that

[exotic stag]

their like 90% dead now

[hollow shell]

We're talking about achievement names in the dev server atm, for later
I'll do you a solid and bring that up as a name possibility

[serene berry]

thanks man

[ashen warren]

But in REVENGEANCE it would be cool if they spawn in full power if final form dog is in low health

[hollow shell]

And yeah it's unlikely that DoG fight will be getting more significant changes like that

[exotic stag]

uh zero.

their still dead

[ashen warren]

They could act like swords and shields of dog

[serene berry]

i think DoG is fine how it is

great theme cool boos

[exotic stag]

just because its rev or death doesnt mean sentinels get the ability to revive from death.

[ashen warren]

They all spawn in with dog being on low health

Not one by one

[exotic stag]

the only reason you can spawn multiple is because terraria logic

[serene berry]

^

if calamity was realistic you'd only fight them once

[exotic stag]

yes

[serene berry]

like it was story

[mighty knot]

oh god fabsol should not have said that

so many achievement suggestions

[exotic stag]

and if it was. you would've been infected with the plague from pbg

[serene berry]

and DoG is already hard enough, he doesnt need changing

[crude geode]

It’ll prolly be banned if it becomes a problem

[ashen warren]

Devourer should of knew necromancy

[serene berry]

yep and you'd die before killing calamitas

[fast viper]

ngl I'd love a 14 minute DoG fight formatted like the nonstop mix where you just fight his whole posse one after the other, but kinda iffy suggestion

DoG is fine

[exotic stag]

bro.

he devours gods.

not performs witchcraft

[serene berry]

well that would be cool, that remix is a banger

[exotic stag]

you could add a config for changing the songs to be any song

[fast viper]

It would also require a pretty gross rework of the entire fight so I can really only dream

But I digress

[serene berry]

Most of the bosses are fine how they are, I especially like the Scal theme.

[fast viper]

There's no real reason for sentinels to come back at end of the fight besides "it'd be cool"

[serene berry]

its like ark's theme, it fits perfectly

[crude geode]

^

[exotic stag]

or "their his minions he can revive them" their already dead

[serene berry]

yea

[crude geode]

Also shoving bosses into other bosses isn’t the best idea, as shown by providence and nuggets.

[fast viper]

lmao I always interpreted the sentinels at the start of the fight just going matching the whole god slayer revive gimmick

but they're there to make the fake out less shocking

[exotic stag]

and also cant forget mostly any boss with miniboss minions

[serene berry]

yeah thats a real pain, i call the phase where the gaurdians of the profaned come back the frick phase

[exotic stag]

actually DoG needed power so he used a teeny weeny bit of power to revive the sentinels so he could charge.

[fast viper]

minibosses either get melted, tag team you, or kill you unfairly

[ashen warren]

Whatever you say I'll just try to make a fan made fight anyways

[exotic stag]

he cant really revive them

[serene berry]

^

[exotic stag]

he just let them have a bit of power so they can stall

[crude geode]

Eh miniboss minions are fine as long as it isn’t shoved in for no reason, see the brothers in Clonelamitas

[serene berry]

yea

and in scal's fight

she summons them

[fast viper]

The brothers imo are fine in cal fight

Cal's moveset is like

Three moves

[serene berry]

yeah it adds edge to the fight

[fast viper]

The whole fight is a twins clone, hope it gets reworked

[serene berry]

yea

[fast viper]

And not "yharon is a fishron clone" it's literally twins++

[serene berry]

yea

[exotic stag]

i feel like pbg having an endless supply of plaguebringers though

[serene berry]

but yharon has the same attacks as fishron

[crude geode]

You mean like queen bee has an endless supply of bees?

[serene berry]

^^

[exotic stag]

no

[crude geode]

Because pbg is a infected queen bee?

[serene berry]

yea

[exotic stag]

like an actual endless supply of the miniboss plaguebringer

[serene berry]

oh

well mass made mechs

[exotic stag]

he has one in his gut like every minute

[crude geode]

and also bees infected by the plague nanobots, just likely more of them

[serene berry]

yeah

[fossil finch]

Exclaimed bingo

Let's go

[crude geode]

Byeah throwing three separate and complete bosses into a already competent fight would just be a nightmare

[fossil finch]

also something about proper modals, about the screaming sugg and add pls!!!

[serene berry]

i do feel as though bosses that arent mandatory are sometimes skipped, and when getting mats you realise and then have to fight the boss. it would be cool to get a little hint as to what bosses to fight next, also yes I do know that the wiki exists but if a player who is new doesn't know about the wiki plays, then they wont ever realise those bosses exist

[exotic stag]

uh boss checklist

[fossil finch]

Got EPIC ai changes

[serene berry]

if a player just uses calamity and music, like me

[exotic stag]

also cant forget three different bosses spawning at once. could cause lag

[fossil finch]

99% of the playerbase does use checklist though

[exotic stag]

again. im PRETTY sure you could see hwat boss is next

by just

crafting

[fossil finch]

And there's status messagges there and there that hint some bosses

[serene berry]

yeah but like old duke,

i didnt fight him

only because we didnt need to

[fossil finch]

(Plus sudden aparition of enemies too in the case of provi, polter, and pbg)

Duke literally spawns after t3 acid rain

[royal tapir]

I mean, there is a status message directing you to the Tier 3 Acid Rain though

[fossil finch]

If you don't do that event that's mostly on you because above

[serene berry]

ok, ok you got me

[exotic stag]

and you cant say stuff about things like calclone or ravager. you can see them

[ashen warren]

I would laugh If there's a item that's makes all endgame bosses team up on you

[fossil finch]

Calclone and rav have more substance to the hint thing

Though they do use mats for their summons you use in a lot of other stuff too

So if you check guide chances are you won't miss those ones

[serene berry]

it also depends on your class

like if you arent mage you dont needa fight the brim elemental

[royal tapir]

What

[grim tusk]

Just use Fargo’s mutant and use the item for that

[fossil finch]

Brimmy's summon is amazing

Idk about the other weapons

[royal tapir]

Abaddon for Asgard's Valor though

[fossil finch]

Yeah that too

[serene berry]

yeah

[ashen warren]

Brimlash is cool tho

[serene berry]

i do feel sad that HoE is getting reworked

[fossil finch]

Not every boss requires to have a meta weapon for every class though imo anyways

[crude geode]

I think it’s fucking good

[fossil finch]

Hote rework suggs finally got somewhere

[grim tusk]

Having only one weapon for a boss is stupid

[fossil finch]

Remember those times where sugg posting was that all day

[exotic stag]

alr now what about frequency manip lmao

the thing literally shreds anything if you can tank

[serene berry]

o

[grim tusk]

Freq manipulator is an ok rogue weapon

What about it?

[serene berry]

why arent we talking about earth on stationary boss rush bosses

its literally free healing

like aureus

[fossil finch]

Because it's bossrush

It's not much important

[serene berry]

yeah

[grim tusk]

Boss Rush AI is getting reworked next patch anyways

[exotic stag]

sometimes it can literally pierce infinitely

which can cause even more dps then post scal weapons.

[grim tusk]

Yea and so can many weapons

[exotic stag]

(yes but its not designed to.)

[fossil finch]

bossrush ai is just malice mode ai

[ashen warren]

I think I fixed my suggestion

[grim tusk]

More dps vs worms is expected, idk what you’re on to

[exotic stag]

(its meant to be either "hit on swing once and explode" or "throw and hit once and explode"

[exotic stag]

aureus

[exotic stag]

still poorly reasoned.

[fossil finch]

+don't scream at the devs to add something

[grim tusk]

I have tested that weapon many times when finding what the best rogue weapon for mechs is (Skyfin ended up being the best) didnt find anything special (besides corrosive spine being busted but that is getting killed next patch)

[serene berry]

^

[fossil finch]

(Use of mayus is usually "screaming" on text and all that)

[exotic stag]

i found that it actually beats out most of the pre mech and post plantera rogue weapons.

[ashen warren]

I thought capping letter was highlighting it

Ig I'm dumb

[royal tapir]

Actually, I have an idea
What about adding a tooltip line in Death for items that help combat cave darkness?

[grim tusk]

Vs just aureus tho

[exotic stag]

plantera. golem. literally most of the hardmode bosses

[grim tusk]

And again check if you dont have any funny accs

[exotic stag]

other then prime and twins i guess

[fossil finch]

This discussion isn't getting anywhere

[grim tusk]

Old die, glove of recklessness, corrosive spine, those other shits

[exotic stag]

i dont even use old die or glove lmao

[fossil finch]

You both have to provide setups and killtimes and all that

[grim tusk]

And yea

[exotic stag]

corrosive spine kinda eh to me

[grim tusk]

Corrosive spine hella busted lmao, go try it on a thicc boi or worm. Destoyer dies in like 30 seconds with that + Stormfront razor stealth

[exotic stag]

sometimes i'll use it sometimes i wont

[exotic stag]

i would have a setup if i didn't format my old harddrive and get a new pc so uh thats funky

i lost 600 hours of prog

[crude geode]

If this isn’t related to any future suggs, it should probably be moved elsewhere

Such as #calamity-mod-talk

[fossil finch]

I don't think there's much of them
In any case, it'd be on the tooltips of those items, not on Death item tooltip

[royal tapir]

That's what I mean

Kinda like the heat/cold immunity tooltips

[fossil finch]

Anyways again idk if there's much of them

[grim tusk]

Yea would be nice

[grim tusk]

Every campfire, shine potions and nightowl potions iirc

[sleek turret]

doesn't ultrabright torches help too?

[fossil finch]

Also like
Ultrabright torches which despite not actually being brighter than other torches I'm 100% sure they interact specially with cave darkness

[grim tusk]

Kinda, cuz they are very bright

[ashen warren]

Does it look like that I'm not screaming anymore?

[royal tapir]

Counted 29 separate items

[fossil finch]

They're not actually brighter than other torches i just think they interact differently

Anyways you could sugg that yeah

[exotic stag]

they give longer light range

nothing else in terms of vanill

vanilla

[fossil finch]

also surprised no one mentioned the lack of good formatting in this both suggs or, well, i didn't see it but it's probably the reason they're exclaimed

It should be

[exotic stag]

i did.

[fossil finch]

Title of the sugg

Sugg

[exotic stag]

i'll write an example sugg as a format

[fossil finch]

Atm the title would be SUGGESTION: and that's not gonna help anyone know what your sugg is about

[crude geode]

The basic guide already gives a format

[exotic stag]

people dont read that.

[serene berry]

well come one mine was a little smart

on*

[crude geode]

Then why would people read your example sugg?

[exotic stag]

its incorrectly formatted. and i dont think the devs would add something based off of "haha funny reference"

[exotic stag]

pins.

[crude geode]

lol

People reading pins

Nice one

[exotic stag]

someones just gonna skim over the sugg thing when reading basic guide

[serene berry]

ttfaf is a good song

[brisk bramble]

Yo
What about this

[crude geode]

#suggestions-posting is where suggestions are reviewed and discussed

[ashen warren]

So is it now fixed or it's still has errors?

[brisk bramble]

make starcore make Deus spawn quicker

[exotic stag]

still incorrect formatting

[fossil finch]

It's future content anyways so it's invalid

[fossil finch]

That's already happening iirc

[serene berry]

yeah

[brisk bramble]

I see.

[fossil finch]

Search in changelogs to be sure

[crude geode]

Yeah #changelogs message

There it is

[fossil finch]

Pog

[royal tapir]

Aight

[fossil finch]

Good sugg now we move on to talking about the next obligatory funny calamity thing to be brought up

[exotic stag]

@serene berry @ashen warren format should be for titles: Suggestion: Suggestion title goes here dont just copy the example i posted

[royal tapir]

Sounds good to me

[exotic stag]

its to show you guys what the title looks like

rather then "suggestion"

[crude geode]

I mean.

[fossil finch]

no one ever has prefixed their suggestion with suggestion

because it's obvious

[brisk bramble]

Add different aesthetics to Post DoG moon events and Eclipse

[serene berry]

ok

[crude geode]

There’s already examples of properly formatted suggestions in posting

[brisk bramble]

?

[exotic stag]

yeah i just wanted to point it out

[serene berry]

mines alr been ruled out

[exotic stag]

since they seemingly didnt get the memo after 2 times.

[fossil finch]

Welcome to the post dog moon event changes already planned hell #3994¥4¥494¥

[serene berry]

but the guy did say he would bring it up

[brisk bramble]

Damn

[exotic stag]

yeah i mean you still had the incorrect formatting

so im pointing that out

[serene berry]

yeah

[exotic stag]

also having just a "Funny reference haha" wont get your sugg in there.

[fossil finch]

Idk if aesthetics bu buffedt seasonal moons may get totally axed in the future, may not

[crude geode]

References for the sake of references are indeed a don’t.

[serene berry]

well

[fossil finch]

Considering changes to them in any case have been planned since ages

[brisk bramble]

Why is my Discord so slow
its like sending Msgs every 30 seconds

[exotic stag]

probably lag

[brisk bramble]

I tested my wifi, its pretty fast

I tried with other sites
they dont seem to have the same problem with Discord rn

[crude geode]

Probably discord being pisscord

[exotic stag]

its fine on status

[brisk bramble]

Its discord being pisscord ye

All the other sites are fine
even got a very fast on my wifi speed test

[exotic stag]

no. discord status is fine

even downdetector.

[brisk bramble]

On mine
not yours m8

[crude geode]

Just because discord isn’t down doesn’t mean it can’t shit the bed and do very stupid things, such as removing all reactions

[exotic stag]

thats just called a bug.

not really "Discord pissy moment"

[brisk bramble]

True
Mine is just being shit rn

Msgs are being slow asf to send

[ashen warren]

Is it fixed now?

[exotic stag]

thats worse..

try and use this as an example of viewing

(dont copy it just use it as a "format")

since im not making an actual format rn as i need to sleep

[fossil finch]

We live in a society

[ashen warren]

Hmm I see

Lol what

[crude geode]

Suggestion Society™️

[fossil finch]

Storms momentum capacitor buff sugg only has 100 stars while funny auric toilet has 200

[brisk bramble]

Haha
overused funny joke

Haha

[cobalt pewter]

People don't like reading long suggs, and auric toilet

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[crude geode]

^^^

[vernal epoch]

https://tenor.com/view/discord-regular-show-pops-light-mode-scared-gif-21753497

[fossil finch]

counter argument: it had buff in the title

[ashen warren]

Yharims gaming chair

Lol

[cobalt pewter]

Counter counterargument: no one fucking knows momentum capacitor

[crude geode]

^^^

[cobalt pewter]

I can attest to the fact that only approx. 5 people knew it exists

[fossil finch]

Just remove it and readd it and everyone knows suddenly

Bigbrain stat

[cobalt pewter]

Momentum Capacitor can be "Holiday Halberd"-ed and no one will care

[lilac wasp]

Improve folly feed

[royal tapir]

696 - Removed Momentum Capacitor. - Done ✅
697 - Readded Momentum Capacitor. This exist too, guys. - Done ✅

[fossil finch]

This is where we ping rover

[royal tapir]

@ RoverdriveX#7729

[crude geode]

@hollow shell #suggestions-posting message kill

[grim tusk]

@haughty ledge invalid suggestion; no reason, no formatting, too specific, and many other stuff including being a joke suggestion

[brisk bramble]

I would rephrase it to
Improve the Folly Mount

[fossil finch]

I would kill it altogether

Bumbledoge is patreon item

[hollow shell]

@haughty ledge Don't do that.

[fossil finch]

And it's fine

[brisk bramble]

I see.

[royal tapir]

Damn, it got axed, I didn't get a chance to fully read it

[hollow shell]

It devolved into keymash

[obsidian cove]

Wasn’t even really readable

[crude geode]

Yeah

[royal tapir]

Well, ok then, guess I wouldn't have read it either way

[brisk bramble]

Its like Cat speak or sum shit

besides, if they wanna buff a pateron or donor item

[grim tusk]

improve folly mound i need ahiofhafhahfsalfhail...

[brisk bramble]

They need the dedicatte' permission

[orchid quartz]

doesnt slime god drop a healing potion like item that just makes you invincible for 10 seconds

[crude geode]

Wrong chat byes

[sleek wadi]

Yeah it do, it also sees 0 use due to its limited supply

There have been a couple of suggs to do something with purified jam such as just remaking it renewable

[fossil finch]

Damn just like if a sugg was made about that already

Timing

Isn't it also approved or whatever

[brisk bramble]

How can it be renewable?

Like, what
a 0.001% drop chance after first kill or smthin?

[fossil finch]

By making it not drop by slime god once per world AND character

[crude geode]

Just making it drop past the first kill

[sleek wadi]

Just let slime god drop it always lol

[crude geode]

Byeah latest sugg seems valid, gives more info to the player about cave darkness