just a joke
#suggestions-discussion
earnest raptor
grim tusk
Would it be bad to suggest tier shifting disseminator to post-Polt? As its tier is bloated with shotguns that do its job better
earnest raptor
I think that approaches "post-moon lord balance suggestions"
hollow shell
Nah that would be valid
earnest raptor
oh ok
hollow shell
Option bloat is independent from stat balancing
grim tusk
Hows this?
cobalt pewter
Looks fine enough
grim tusk
Lets see post Polter ranger has:
Monsoon
Dodous’ handcannon
Daemons’ flame
Sulphuric cannon or smth
Halley’s inferno
Fetid Emesis (post-OD)
Skeptic Skewer (post-OD)
5 (7) weapons to use on the next bosses
Did i miss something?
@exotic stag you can use blocks to completely invalidate the turrets
hollow shell
Using blocks as shields is the optimal strat yeah
exotic stag
i know but then again noise and people not knowing that
grim tusk
Iirc their noise is getting lowered some next patch perhaps
Many have complained that they are very loud
exotic stag
and it'd make it in line with the draedon weapons too
hollow shell
Iirc their noise is getting lowered some next patch perhaps
Many have complained...
Ye it is
exotic stag
because wouldn't draedons turrets need a recharge anyway?
he cant keep them going forever
hollow shell
(I do kinda like the idea of them recharging anyway, I think it'd be a neat effect)
exotic stag
how about a sound for it too like a powering down sound
hollow shell
Yeah but that's..
electricity going out is a different thing from needing to recharge
grim tusk
Probably just reduce the fire rate of the turrets instead if they are too much of an issue?
This would still make em threatening but not that oppressive (keep current fire rate for death mode if you do)
exotic stag
i was gonna say like a 1s maybe cooldown for recharge?
cause draedon wouldn't want his stuff to be stolen so i assume he'd give his turrets faster ability to recharge
rather then the charging station
or. what if you could take the turrets?
grim tusk
You can disassemble em already
exotic stag
yeah but what i mean is take em and reuse em rather then just "alright heres some materials. nothing else"
grim tusk
Iirc there was a sugg for friendly draedon sentries (and you have pulse turret remote already)
exotic stag
hm. neat
if we could take that recharge idea i had with that friendly sentry thing
that'd be a neat idea
grim tusk
#suggestions-voting message and it has 🛠️
exotic stag
neat
so if we actually add the recharge sugg to that
that'd be neat right?
its a way to balance it kind of too
grim tusk
Maybe, but you’ll have to wait until its implemented to suggest that
hollow shell
@lavish lake Do not make suggestions about upcoming content
Wait until you can experience the finished system first
lavish lake
Oh ok sorry, I thought it would be an exception since it was something we already had all the info on.
lavish lake
Ah ok
fossil finch
i don't think this is necessary in any way still tbh
hollow shell
(Also this exact thing was considered, but the devs deemed it too difficult to program a way to tell if any given fight was a no-hit. Either that or too performance-intensive, not sure)
gaunt quest
that one suggestion where it's just i don't want my friend to cry because they didn't get pulse bow is oof
i mean it would be nice for those things to be craft able though
grim tusk
(Also this exact thing was considered, but the devs deemed it too difficult to p...
armaggedon?
hollow shell
@lapis canyon by "have been changed" and "later on" are you referring to updates?
lapis canyon
yea
hollow shell
Alright, that could be a bit clearer
The first sentence could accidentally be read as meaning
'In comparison to Revengeance, Death has all phases'
which afaik isn't true
lapis canyon
alright
hollow shell
This is not any more clear
lapis canyon
Is it not?
hollow shell
You could say something like "Death Mode used to make bosses skip phases, but in recent updates, most bosses in deathmode have been changed to include all their phases"
lapis canyon
Oh alright
hollow shell
👍 Much better
ashen warren
The last sentence sounds like you're saying he continues attacking in death mode
*compared to in revengeance mode where he continues attacking without pausing to change phase
Would sound better
hollow shell
Chances are if you came up with a rogue weapon idea and want to propose it, it will be too specific
But, you can send it here first if you want
sly crystal
i didnt really come up with it tbh
completely stolen
but basically just the ceremonial daggers from risk of rain
cobalt pewter
Probably not likely
ashen warren
listing the details is a no
not sure about simply saying add a reference from this game or smth
hollow shell
And reasoning that only consists of being a reference is also a no
There's gotta be some tangible benefit to the mod
sly crystal
dont really mean like as a reference, i just think the mechanic is cool
Kills create spectral knives that home in on enemies, and kills with those generate knives as well
hollow shell
I suppose I can't immediately think of any rogue weps we have that generate homing projectiles on kill
There are some which spawn homing projs on main proj timeout, though
like Shattered Sun
fuck there we go
sly crystal
nice
ashen warren
copy image on gif be like
hollow shell
We got a few melee weps which spawn homing projs on enemy kills, usually energy orbs
sly crystal
have you played risk of rain?
hollow shell
I've played a bit of RoR2. I don't know the intricacies of how that item functions
hollow shell
Yeah I deduced that much
That is assuming that the dagger hits land killing blows on those enemies
sly crystal
yes
frozen hornet
What if hadarian stays post-Deus and have it buff titan heart,like how bone wings work with necro armor
hollow shell
Huh
Astral Armor does indeed lack dedicated wings...
I uhhh
This knife sugg doesn't have very strong reasoning
I can only assume it boils down to "It'll be fun"
frozen hornet
I forgot about astral armor
sly crystal
I uhhh
This knife sugg doesn't have very strong reasoning
I can only assume it b...
yea
and good for ad clear
hollow shell
I would
appreciate it if you could expand upon your reasoning as much as you can
As-is, it's kinda
nothing
vital sorrel
I mean… that’s very loose reasoning but not too grounded is it? Like against bosses it would be basically useless since it wouldn’t get the multi-spawn off, and the only way it’s going to keep spawning is with one hit kills…. Which again makes the multi spawn pointless compared to so many other throwing weapons that just engulf the screen
I’m just trying to think of any point at all to an item like that, or where in progression it would even sit?
keen zealot
Only thing I can think of is that if it does enough damage it might be useful for QB or EoC or BoC?
vital sorrel
Queen Bee I could maybe see cause of all the little bees she has sure. But even then that feels ungodly situational
keen zealot
yeah
ashen warren
Not every weapon has to be a boss killer
vital sorrel
And you know another thing if the knife projectile doesnt pass through blocks then it's going to very quickly lose all those projectiles
ashen warren
And it would be good on worms
keen zealot
it only splits on kill keep in mind
definitely going to be wildly under or overpowered if it does see use
not much room for in between
solid folio
"Creates opportunities for kills to ball out of control really quickly" is basically as good as none for reasoning imo
vital sorrel
It only splits if it kills so it would hit worms like a regular kife
vital sorrel
Yeah, not every weapon needs to be a boss killer, but it's unique function should atleast be... functional
clever fog
What if change the "splits on kill" onto "can split x-times on hit". Let's say 1-3-5 knives
keen zealot
if it split on hit and had whichever type of immunity affects all projectiles of the same type it might be cool to have it early phm and do like... six damage
vital sorrel
Then the question becomes
Do the splits knives hit the same enemy a second time or pass through
sly crystal
yo yall r putting more thought into this than i did
keen zealot
pass through
ashen warren
It's still a sis tho and won't be valid
clever fog
Pass through, new projectiles
vital sorrel
That is literally the point of a suggestion discussion channel... yes...
ashen warren
If you want a knife like that code one yourself
keen zealot
yo yall r putting more thought into this than i did
you should also be putting a lot of thought into your own suggestion if you want it to be seriously considered
clever fog
It wouls be interesti g on bosses like WoF, who blocks projectiles behind it's body parts/spawnings etc.
ashen warren
There is zero reasoning for the suggestion
sly crystal
i just thought it'd be cool lol wasnt meant to be a deep dive
ashen warren
Literally zero lol
vital sorrel
Calamity is a big game at this point, there's a lot of rules for suggesting things because they can't just throw random stuff in at this point just for fun
keen zealot
at best this is a novelty that is extremely unbalanced no matter how it's implemented
vital sorrel
I agree
clever fog
If you want a knife like that code one yourself
Niw this is zero reasoning. This is a room for Suggestion, your statement was just being total overjerk
Why then make this mod, go and code yourselves one.
ashen warren
The suggestion had no reasoning and specific item suggestions are banned
vital sorrel
Okay okay, let;s not start a fight yeah?
sly crystal
no lets fight i want to see a fight
vital sorrel
That too has zero reasoning
keen zealot
not to mention making something solely because "it would be cool" is explicitly mentioned as a Don't
clever fog
The suggestion had no reasoning and specific item suggestions are banned
It was still a suggestion, if you aint clever enough to bash on person due to suggestion, please shut the heck up
ashen warren
That wasnt the reasoningz there literally wasn't any reasoning only a description of what it does
ashen warren
It was still a suggestion, if you aint clever enough to bash on person due to su...
I don't understand what you are trying to say
keen zealot
It was still a suggestion, if you aint clever enough to bash on person due to su...
what the hell are you on about
clever fog
what the hell are you on about
I am on about statements like "Code yourself one" which is just being shitheady
sly crystal
wtf have i done
keen zealot
wtf have i done
nothing really
vital sorrel
Not much
clever fog
Cause you can go and code yourself broken-op weapons aswell
solid folio
I dont see how that's shitheady at all
vital sorrel
Okay Bez... I think you have made your point and are now dragging things out, which in turn now makes you the shit head, does it not?
solid folio
Someone had a really specific idea for a weapon they want in the game, doesn't really have anything to do with calamity
ashen warren
I said code it yourself because if you want to have a weapon like that just do that, instead of suggesting another mod does it because it's cool or smth
If you have an idea do it yourself
keen zealot
which is valid
vital sorrel
It's quite valid
ashen warren
The devs have better things to make than generic auric tier weapon 103
keen zealot
or a third wulfrum throwing weapon
clever fog
I mean, why then take suggestions, when we are throwing all stuff to the garbage and shunning people with "Do it yourself then"
brisk bramble
What do you guys think of an Altered themes for the Frost moon, Pumpkin moon, and the Eclipse?
hollow shell
Hello
brisk bramble
Yo
hollow shell
Your suggestion is fine, Warper
brisk bramble
👋 
ashen warren
Not all stuff is being thrown to the ground, it's literally specifically specific item suggestions
vital sorrel
Okay... Lets try to reword this
keen zealot
don't we have a backlog of literally hundreds of donor items?
hollow shell
Not hundreds but like over 50
ashen warren
I'm not sure why you're generalising what we're saying to mean every suggestion
Ye there's a reason they stopped the donor items lol
brisk bramble
What is even goin on ere-
solid folio
I mean, why then take suggestions, when we are throwing all stuff to the garbage...
There's a pinned doc for what suggestions aren't allowed fyi
keen zealot
someone thought discarding SIS == disregarding the idea of suggestions altogether
brisk bramble
SIS?
keen zealot
specific item suggestion
ashen warren
Which is like
vital sorrel
@clever fog The sentiment was not "Throw your idea in the garbage, do it yourself"
It was "There are rules about what can and cannot be suggested, your suggestion currently either does not follow those rules or make sense in the context of the mod so it likely won't be made. If you still want to see it be made that badly, then maybe you could make one yourself and eliminate the middle man"
Does that make it clearer
hollow shell
okay I do not think this needs to be made any clearer
ashen warren
That's an overly detailed and clear way of putting it ye
sly crystal
knives = 3
while enemies > 0:
enemies = enemies - 1
knives = knives - 2
knives = knives + 3
print("You have" , knives , "knives")
print("There are" ,enemies ,"enemies")
Lol
sly crystal
not that hard
hollow shell
This is quite a pointless argument
keen zealot
indeed
ashen warren
```enemies = 100
knives = 3
while enemies > 0:
enemies = enemies - 1
kni...
What is that supposed to be
vital sorrel
You're just trolling at this point I see
ashen warren
Not even c# smh
blazing surge
he's trolling. he's gotta be
sly crystal
he must be
vital sorrel
blazing surge
brisk bramble
Heres a weapon sugg
Might not be a good idea
Give megalodon the rocket mechanic similar to the Seadragon and the SDFMG
Rn its just a MEgashark reskin but stronker
idk
ashen warren
..anyway
Was there anything about the post dog moons being changed in terms of gameplay
hollow shell
Your mum warped my pole if you know what im saying
Don't.
brisk bramble
Just the music
hollow shell
And uhh I think our plans at this point are to do away with the buffed moons and move the drops to a new biome?
Eventually
Somewhat long time from now
ashen warren
That works
brisk bramble
Alter the music n stuff of the Buffed Moons and Eclipse
blazing surge
i wouldn't mind post DoG moon difficulties, but my main issue would be "what more can you do other than HP inflation?"
ashen warren
Ye
brisk bramble
Heres a weapon sugg
Might not be a good idea
Give megalodon the rocket mechani...
but also what yall think?
vital sorrel
A new Biome huh? That sounds fun
hollow shell
We also have plans for unique Post-DoG Moon minibosses
ashen warren
That's a fundamental issue with them
hollow shell
So those kinda conflict atm
We'll see what we make of em when we reach that point
ashen warren
Heres a weapon sugg
Might not be a good idea
Give megalodon the rocket mechani...
That's specific you could just say
hollow shell
It's not that specific
blazing surge
sounds interesting.
vital sorrel
I'm always down for new biomes and bosses/minibosses
ashen warren
Give it a unique mechanic like its future upgrades as it's currently identical to the megashark
brisk bramble
Rn its just a Stronger Megashark
ashen warren
You could be more vague and get the same point across
hollow shell
Yeah that would be better actually
hollow shell
It would be kinda samey to have multiple ocean-themed gun upgrades that all have rockets specifically
ashen warren
Because you want it to be more likely to happen therefore make it vague as possible etc
brisk bramble
but this is like
a crafting tree of the Minishark series n stuff
vital sorrel
That kinda falls into the specifc range then yeah?
brisk bramble
ultimately ending at the Void Dragon-
ashen warren
You could retier it
ashen warren
So it isn't post one mech, post calclone then post one sentinal
hollow shell
Megalodon is indeed post-Clone
ashen warren
It's weirdly close to the megashark then there's a massive gap
Well not weirdly, I see why it is unlocked then
vital sorrel
I kinda like the gap in a weird way. Cause then when you upgrade it atlast it's like saying hello to an old friend
ashen warren
Or
brisk bramble
Megashark is kewl
ashen warren
Oh ye this exists
brisk bramble
I mean im thinking along the lines of
proximity mine launcher and Megashark n stuff to start things off
eternal escarp
Huh
Astral Armor does indeed lack dedicated wings...
wait, i was under the assumption hadarian boosted astral armor
hollow shell
Ah, it does
I appear to be a fool
eternal escarp
Heres a weapon sugg
Might not be a good idea
Give megalodon the rocket mechani...
also i remember ozz talking about that entire line of weapons getting some changes?
eternal escarp
Ah, it does
I appear to be a fool
eh, it happens 
hollow shell
Ozz does indeed have a plan for Megalodon
keen zealot
We *also* have plans for unique Post-DoG Moon minibosses
could move these to the new biome after some reworking
gaunt quest
New biome?
tardy smelt
I think there's some sort of plan for a post-DoG cosmilite-themed subworld tho that's quite far off and idk much about it
gaunt quest
Oh yah that plan
cobalt pewter
Huh
Astral Armor does indeed lack dedicated wings...
Doesn't Hadarian already boost Astral armor stats?
hollow shell
Ah, it does
I appear to be a fool
.
cobalt pewter
Heres a weapon sugg
Might not be a good idea
Give megalodon the rocket mechani...
Whether I'm dumb or I remembered megalodon already doing something like that already
But as far as I'm aware, ozz plans Archerfish to be vored by Megalodon in a future update
crude geode
Personally really don’t get the hype behind Archerfish anyways tbfh, besides it doing dps and having piercing. If it’s projectile actually did something unique (applied an effect or smthn) then I might get it but it’s kinda just like. Aqua scepter but not bad.
eternal escarp
the "hype" mainly is the fact its DPS and practically a hitscan ig
brisk bramble
Phoenix Blaster is more fun Imo
eternal escarp
and that its an abyss weapon which are seen as the beat options for wof
brisk bramble
Archer fish is just a stronger minishark-
eternal escarp
somewhat
cobalt pewter
Most people are just meta slave in some way, whether they want it or not, and despite the weapon being bland, Archerfish is just prime meta for WoF
eternal escarp
also it does apply an effect
Wet Debuff
brisk bramble
I honestly perfer the Phoenix Blaster, Lunarian/Goobow
eternal escarp
goobow is prty good yeah
heady lichen
Personally really don’t get the hype behind Archerfish anyways tbfh, besides it ...
it's by far the strongest option at that tier, fantastic against slime god and WoF
(though pre-nerf tracking disk was even more broken) -> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6H7X7OCclP4
crude geode
I mean. yay dps.
heady lichen
the hype is that it's stupidly strong
that's it
it does everything at that tier that you could ask for, and does it stupidly well
piercing, hitscan/speed, ranged (funny broken class), fairly easy to get
eternal escarp
i doubt its stupidly strong
its good, nothing too grand
heady lichen
i doubt its *stupidly* strong
its good, nothing too grand
it's better than literally anything else at that tier
eternal escarp
theres a difference between just being better and being stupidly strong
its not like the weapon itself in inheritly stronger then it should be
heady lichen
there's a difference but if something is the clear strongest weapon it should be nerfed
crude geode
^
heady lichen
its not like the weapon itself in inheritly stronger then it should be
it'd be fine if the projectile was slower, or didn't have piercing
but everything combined makes it do too much for too little
heady lichen
it's an ammoless ranged weapon that pierces and hitscans with the highest dps at the tier its at and the next one
how is that not broken?
eternal escarp
(its not ammoless, it needs bullets)
heady lichen
oh well, my point still stands
crude geode
Pre-Slime God and Pre-WoF might as well be the same tier, bar a few minor exceptions
eternal escarp
honestly they are the same tier
heady lichen
you have no reason to use literally anything other than archerfish unless you want homing for some reason
eternal escarp
theres so little difference because its pre-hm
crude geode
and an armor that everyone ends up using Bc final armor
crude geode
you have no reason to use literally anything other than archerfish unless you wa...
overloaded blaster is funnier.
tbfh
eternal escarp
overloaded blaster is funnier.
trueeeee
heady lichen
it's alright but not better
crude geode
Did I say better?
eternal escarp
the diff is that, even if archerfish is better DPS wise, its not like its way too good for its own tier
heady lichen
the diff is that, even if archerfish is better DPS wise, its not like its way to...
disagree tbh
distant gyro
Archerfish will be nerfed at some point
distant gyro
because the Abyss is way more accessible than it was 2 years ago
or whenever it was implemented
heady lichen
hear me out, buff abyss
make it way more dangerous
distant gyro
before it was practically the best because Abyss was the penultimate difficult biome
heady lichen
not to be a boomer but I miss old, difficult, scary abyss
distant gyro
same
crude geode
Ok boomers
heady lichen
speaking of which, might as well make a sugg for it
I've had a pretty good history with my suggs being accepted
distant gyro
Now the remedy gear from the chests alone aren't even worth considering
you can just speedrun it, get the weapon you want, and buckle off all in one run with gills and flipper
crude geode
mmmm disagree tbh, but may be just me
heady lichen
at this point abyss feels more like sunken sea to me
crude geode
The way you move through the abyss is so slow, giving plenty of enemies time to spawn, and it’s difficult to navigate at times, depending on space
distant gyro
(partially because the chests are buffed so that the weapons appear FIRST)
heady lichen
it's way too passive for a supposedly dangerous biome
distant gyro
so the first trip of the abyss is encouraged speedrun
instead of improving your loadout over time as you explore more and more, the accessories become fodder for a later tier
crude geode
I mean, is that a particularly bad thing? Especially when the end of pre-hm already has slime god and the dungeon/shadow chests to give you exploratory content. It’s just a small opportunity to dip your toe into the abyss, and then explore it more fully later
still zodiac
Well I don't really see how making abyss mobs more aggressive will make it any better
crude geode
^ this tbfh
still zodiac
Abyss kinda seems like more of an insidious biome, not a super in your face one
distant gyro
Abyss enemies was less of a threat in old Abyss
still zodiac
So the mobs should be more dangerous while not going through 15 layers just to find you
crude geode
The reason why I actually like it’s current design a lot, as the tight, confined nature of it forces you into certain enemies
distant gyro
the changes over time buffed their stats by more than double
heady lichen
Well I don't really see how making abyss mobs more aggressive will make it any b...
that's not what I'm getting at tbh
the enemies feel way too killable
still zodiac
Well you said the abyss is too passive
distant gyro
making the biome more enemy-centric than environment-centric
still zodiac
Not too squishy
heady lichen
and the vision thing isn't nearly important enough
still zodiac
Kinda need to be more specific on that then
distant gyro
A toxic minnow cloud now hits you for 120 (!) damage in Expert
eternal escarp
okay so im absolutely no tester but the diff i got from Archerfish to Overloaded Blaster is pretty minimal, on a mixed setup with 2 menacing reforged and unreal on both
(archerfish is the top one)
heady lichen
15 seconds is pretty huge
distant gyro
that's about 15% faster
heady lichen
lunarian is shit
brisk bramble
Whatever
If it Packs a punch
It packs a punch
distant gyro
anywho
crude geode
A toxic minnow cloud now hits you for 120 (!) damage in Expert
So how is different from a dart trap then? Both are (relatively) stationary but very deadly targets. Toxic minnows may move, but they’re easier to notice and avoid.
Some enemies may not be classified as environmental hazards, but the toxic minnow might as well be.
still zodiac
Make the clouds home in on the player 
heady lichen
now heres flash rounds Gunk Shot <:HDfailure:482263678150770729>
wait what the fuck
distant gyro
it's just an example of how enemies in the Abyss are pretty buffed to high hell and the environmental factor, being bleeding, breath, and light being nerfed significantly
eternal escarp
you see
there is indeed a difference between good and too strong for the tier
(although gunk shot does need to get rid of the fucker Hungries first and uh, aim)
distant gyro
Devil Fish does even more damage, 180 in expert
brisk bramble
Is Starcannon Meta against WoF
distant gyro
sure, you could say all enemies in the Abyss are theoretically a dart trap
eternal escarp
in modded
distant gyro
because they're too slow 'cept for the minibosses
eternal escarp
otherwise, good luck getting stars for ammo before AA
brisk bramble
Luiafk
crude geode
sure, you could say all enemies in the Abyss are theoretically a dart trap
I’m saying specifically toxic minnow.
distant gyro
but like why
brisk bramble
eternal escarp
luiafk isnt taken into consideration when you balance star cannon
brisk bramble
Lol
crude geode
and some of the other big boys that block you from descending like giant (not colossal) squid.
distant gyro
precisely
distant gyro
it's just an example of how enemies in the Abyss are pretty buffed to high hell ...
: this undervalues the relatively unique mechanics the biome has to offer
crude geode
I like those mechanics tbh, but I’m not sure if the community does
(Deathmode light complaints being my reasoning)
distant gyro
menacing biomes are something many people underappreciate
Something like Deepnest (HK) is infamous for this, and it's often either at the bottom or top of people's list
brisk bramble
I dont really wanna suggest something too major
Cause its not as simple as people think when it comes to changes
distant gyro
but many who don't like it should be able to understand that it serves its purpose
brisk bramble
The would it be cool
Is not an excuse
distant gyro
it's the abyss, not the puny 1.4 ocean cave
brisk bramble
Virgin Ocean cave
Chad Redpilled Abiss
crude geode
speaking of which, might as well make a sugg for it
You should probably wait for Sockurai to develop a suggestion first, if they are going to.
distant gyro
and that's accompanied by Abyss being optional after all
crude geode
indeed
heady lichen
You should probably wait for Sockurai to develop a suggestion first, if they are...
?
distant gyro
if tedium is ever a problem, a magical conch equivalent for the Sulph Sea (but official) may not sound so bad after all
crude geode
Mhm
distant gyro
Abyss buff suggestion
crude geode
Hopefully not.
eternal escarp
Belching saxophone -> Puking Clarinet
brisk bramble
Burping Clarinet
crude geode
Byeah the optional nature of the abyss would mean that the environmental nature of it should be better, but honestly who knows with this community.
eternal escarp
changing topic for a slight second, ive added more "material" to my Hadarian Wings sugg, is it missing anything to anyones eyes or anything i should remove / change?
frozen hornet
if tedium is ever a problem, a magical conch equivalent for the Sulph Sea ~~(but...
Is sulphurous conch really needed when the basic conch already lets you teleport to both oceans
distant gyro
fishing is always fishing
grim tusk
it's better than literally anything else at that tier
Can confirm, its even sort of decent vs Cryogen
eternal escarp
now heres flash rounds Gunk Shot <:HDfailure:482263678150770729>
@grim tusk yeah
grim tusk
Now thats dumb but does it beat eldritch tome mhage?
sleek turret
mhm yeah but what about dynamites this time
grim tusk
Also how much dmg flash rounds do? Would party bullets (from pigronnata) be better?
grim tusk
mhm yeah but what about dynamites this time
eternal escarp
Now thats dumb but does it beat ~~eldritch tome~~ mhage?
prolly not
eternal escarp
Also how much dmg flash rounds do? Would party bullets (from pigronnata) be bett...
and no idea actually, id assume Flash Rounds are better because the AoE and the damage is about, 11 iirc?
grim tusk
Flash rounds have 7 base, party have 10 base and acceleration have 11 base.
Then theres superball with 6 base
eternal escarp
hm
tardy smelt
Can confirm, its even sort of decent vs Cryogen
lmao last time I played rogue I got a twins summon from wof and I first-tried them with only sulphur armor and a lionfish
it was only normal mode but ngl I should try that on higher difficulties
dapper coral
gone
shell grotto
👍
buoyant idol
I have an idea for a suggestion to fix blood orbs replacing herbs
What if blood orbs only replace fish, so lifeforce needs no prismite, wrath needs no ebonkoi, etc
weak field
I mean the point of blood orbs is to replace herbs cause farming for herbs is kind of boring and doesn't even bring you anything other than herbs
Fishing can bring some cool weapons and other materials
ancient mirage
ah yes, steam comminuty
mighty knot
I wonder if they'll start using different links ever
wooden wedge
and I wonder if discord will fix this shit
fossil finch
just ban the link smhead
obsidian cove
What if you made a channel called don’t talk in here and set a bot to auto ban in it?
grim tusk
I wonder why suggs for minor changes get far more stars than suggs that could impact the game a lot
hollow shell
They're easier to agree with
The larger the change, the more opportunity there is for dissent
and the more natural resistance to change there is
crude geode
something like have the chest in the center of shrine instead of slightly off center is much easier to agree with, and generally likeable than remove evil islands bc it reduces the value of choosing evil at world creation
weak field
I thought deus lore already disables the low gravity
sleek wadi
That effect is both really late and dying next patch
hollow shell
Not recommended to give the item a name
grim tusk
Yea giving them a name makes the sugg a SIS
sly crystal
Nah I don't see any name
hollow shell
That's better
sly crystal
That effect is both really late and dying next patch
wdym by this
sleek wadi
Was replying to deus lore
hollow shell
ye
We could make a new inventory favoritable for it I guess
We made new items for all the lore items that suppress boss spawn NPCs
sly crystal
I feel like the texturing would probably be the most difficult part. I have zero modding experience but you already have the base concept (campfires) and the buff (gravity normaliser) so U can't imagine it's as difficult as it could be
hollow shell
Yeah don't even worry about that aspect
sly crystal
Although, disclaimer, I don't know what I'm talking about
Also rover just feedback on the whole mod in general
It's too good
I stayed home and played it instead of studying and now my career prospects are ruined
sly crystal
You have destroyed my life
fossil finch
I feel like the texturing would probably be the most difficult part. I have zero...
I'd say the favorite effect thing is better than a placeable because uhhh consistency 
+(relatively moot as hell point incoming) cv exists and he inflicts distorted and the potion gives you immunity to that so if an arena buff station thing were to apply it it'd be kinda lol for cv
sly crystal
Im more thinking like uh
Just placing it in like
Arenas or houses
Because unless ur up there for a reason
You won't be for long
fossil finch
That doesn't change what i said at all
sly crystal
Wait whats cv
fossil finch
Ceaseless Void
sly crystal
Oh lol I'm still pre ml
crude geode
@marsh girder suggesting new bosses is a don't, and yharon will no longer have an intermission between phase 1 and 2 next update
grim tusk
Yea and no title as well
And exo gear is becoming post-Draedon (you’ll still have auric (except arsenal that got shifted) and Yharon’s drops for Scal and Draedon)
fossil finch
Post dog bloated af now
marsh girder
And exo gear is becoming post-Draedon (you’ll still have auric (except arsenal t...
wait itwill
oh'
so drop get nerf?
shell moss
chimken cannon is getting an upgrade?
grim tusk
No
Chicken cannon is becoming a real viable option for Scal
Rather than being just a heart killer
shell moss
so everything else is getting on the level of chicken cannon?
shell moss
ok thats good
hollow shell
Yharon1 as a tier is getting removed, yeah
Yharon is a singular fight now
Darksun is now post-DoG, same tier as the holiday moon buffs
(in Drae update)
frozen hornet
Will drata still be auric because that would make it an instant upgrade
grim tusk
Yes it will not require RNGale now
frozen hornet
Lmao rngale
prisma flicker
finite smelt
dim star
#suggestions-voting message this is a weird suggestion
not good or bad just kinda
strange
hollow shell
Why do you say that?
dim star
i don't see any reason for the suggestion and it would be kinda out of place ingame
idk maybe it's just me
hollow shell
Well cuz
The point of the names of "???" and "Calamitas" is that they're from the player's point of view, it's something they don't know yet
They don't know that the mysterious ??? figure is Anahita, and they don't know that this Calamitas is just a clone
Both of those are revealed within/after the fights
So on re-fights, that element of the unknown is no longer there
You know what the figure is, and you know that it's not the real Calamitas
dim star
i can definably see the calamitas one being added ingame but the Anahita one is a little eh
hollow shell
(Dang, I thought it'd be the other way around.
Renaming a boss in subsequent fights would be too major while renaming the simple spawning NPC would be fine)
tawny garden
Blast wanted me to count up the suggs like I did months ago
so uh
Since 20 April 2020:
⭐ 3063 valid suggestions
✅ 984 of these were delivered to the dev server/mod corner
👍 562 were approved
🚫 199 were rejected
☑️ 77 were bluechecks
🏁 146 were implemented (42 of these were implemented before being delivered)
which gives a grand total delivery rate of 32.13%
an approval rate of 18.35% (57.11% of delivered ones)
and an implementation rate of 4.77% (14.84% of delivered, 25.98% of approved; 10.57% of delivered, 18.51% of approved if you exclude instant flags)
there ya go
hollow shell
Awesome
robust lava
Now the Suggs channel is restored
tawny garden
I'll get back to my hidey hole now 
hollow shell
Thank you for your stat work
tawny garden
fossil finch
atDom up your job at implementing
earnest raptor
Yay, the COP of 4.77%
eternal escarp
thanks philo, appreciate the salvation to my stat-oholism
runic wraith
tawny garden
hang on, why is #suggestions-posting message and co. still in posting?
hollow shell
Bot stalled
Happens.
@ashen warren
(Brav is usually the one to contact you for bot going down but iunno if there's anything special about his reports that I should know about)
tawny garden
aight
earnest raptor
Happens.
Is there a day when SuggestionBot is not broken/dead/on lifetime support/on vacation/subathon?
hollow shell
Yeah problems only pop up once every week or two
It's inconsistent
Sometimes there's no issues for a month
grim tusk
When will SuggBot stop visiting NohitBot on the graveyard
hollow shell
Amber's bot project might absorb suggbot too? Not 100% sure
grim tusk
Is there a day when SuggestionBot is not broken/dead/on lifetime support/on vaca...
Iirc yesterday there wasnt issues
hollow shell
ye, last issue was 1 week ago, then 2 weeks before that, then almost 4 weeks before that, then about 1 week before that
( from:Bravioli#7150 amber in:suggestions-discussion )
hollow shell
Coolio
hollow shell
Yeah true
I was about to speak against the sugg for thematic purposes, but you're right that Harpy Ring already introduces Aerialite as part of the tree
fossil finch
it's not a long recipe at all for calamity standards but sure whatever (also i don't see the unnecessary grinding part as true either, it's some aerealite bars you probably already have, not 100 of them)
dense locust
it's not a long recipe at all for calamity standards but sure whatever (also i d...
sure its not THAT long, however, most of the extremely long crafts are weapons that combine a large amount of other weapons together (most notably the auric weapons) rather than a large amount of generic materials
fossil finch
uh
said auric weapons
are made with a bar
that is said amount of "generic materials"
dense locust
keyword, most
fossil finch
auric bars themselves exist because 1.3 has a cap to the number of distinct materials a recipe can have, they used to simply use said materials before the bar
hollow shell
Auric stuff is kind of an extreme comparison
The entire point of that equipment is to shove in as many materials and weapons as possible
Angel Treads are not an Auric item.
crude geode
Having both aerialite and the harpy ring is realistically unnecessary.
dense locust
The entire point of that equipment is to shove in as many materials and weapons ...
fair enough, asgards valor might be a better comparison
crude geode
also idk if anyone even uses harpy ring outside of crafting Angel treads, my guess is a big no
fossil finch
may next update because the funny speed
byeah
my point was anyways that the grinding for like the
10 or 20? don't remember bars treads themselves use is
Minimun, doesn't make the sugg invalid ofc, it's just a point that i find rather moot
crude geode
20 bars
dense locust
~~also idk if anyone even uses harpy ring outside of crafting Angel treads, my g...
its an item that boosts flight time at a tier where no wings are available, so yeah, probably not gonna be used much
crude geode
Which is almost as much as a full set of aerospec armor which is just confusing considering you’re making boots.
fossil finch
they're some damn good boots
crude geode
Also uh technically speaking harpy ring should affect frostspark/downgrades? But unsure of if it does Bc again, never used it
fossil finch
with the speed uncap it will probably be more used in general remember how malice is a mode designed with you moving fast in mind also
dense locust
even if it does its currently completely outclassed by frog leg as are many other items
dense locust
with the speed uncap it will probably be more used in general ~~remember how mal...
agreed
crude geode
this look good?
hollow shell
You screwed up the top line
Would be a bit odd to move a WoF Emblem drop craft to PreHM
crude geode
got the names mixed up
hollow shell
Yeah there ya go
royal tapir
Was scrolling through #suggestions-voting, and noticed these suggestions have 200 stars but don't have ✅
#suggestions-voting message
#suggestions-voting message
#suggestions-voting message
#suggestions-voting message
#suggestions-voting message
distant gyro
soon
royal tapir
Aight
fossil finch
"Sulph sea gen"
AtDominic you hear that?
Are you sure your mod is updated?
Because the bugs have always been the least for me, and I'm more than sure sulph sea gen overrides whatever was on the ocean before generating, and i have like once got a dry ocean
steady parrot
Yeah I keep it updated, in my last 4 runs of calamity I got 1 sulf going to the dungeon, (just normal water) 1 where it was drained to the sea floor and took 15 in game ours to re-fill. And 2 more where the corruption chasms dug through the sulfur sea and drained it half
fossil finch
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
worn salmon
yeah i still have gen problems with it despite having the latest version
its empty sometimes
hollow shell
Strange.
full pivot
Are you sure your mod is updated?
Because the bugs have always been the least fo...
it doesn't override iirc
on my last world, only about a month ago, it was kinda broken
fossil finch
idk
truth be told i play always in large, the worldsize less propense to funnies
keen zealot
never play small worlds in modern terraria
they're just too small for all of the shit crammed into them
esPEcially in modded
medium is a nice balance, large can often be too big if you're going solo
brisk bramble
Well
Large worlds are going to be meta in the future
Since pylons
keen zealot
still have to traverse the twice as large world before you can get the pylons
not to mention unless you have specific mods that allow you to have infinite pylons in a world AND have them function regardless of the presence of NPCs or bosses they're still limited to eight safe places in the world, some of which are post skeletron or hardmode exclusives because of how they work
solid folio
yeah i still would never use a large world
keen zealot
the ONLY upside to a large world is that there's 4x the area to play with over medium
and that's also a major downside early on
novel belfry
medium is a nice balance, large can often be too big if you're going solo
I've always played large, never anything smaller, so I can't exactly have an opinion of this
twilit warren
I play medium on singleplayer and large on multiplayer
worn salmon
always large here
gaunt quest
medium gang
obsidian cove
Large world gang
cold cosmos
vital sorrel
My friend and I tend to stick to Medium. Mostly a time thing, trying to rush across the map for an event in pre-hard mode or digging down to hell for the first time can really eat at you on a large map. Especially if you hit a spot of bad luck and have to make that trip multiple times…
Ah the joys of reaching the last bit of corruption before the sea only to get T-boned into a pit by an eater….
frozen hornet
I like this sugg
It's one of the reasons I never go to sulph sea unless I'm going to abyss/doing acid rain
steady parrot
I enjoy large because I get more building space and materials
keen zealot
space makes sense
materials not so much
what isn't infinitely renewable is goddamn everywhere in even small worlds
fossil finch
i use large because the other world sizes are for plebeian rushers :clearly: (/j iirc)
regal prism
I use larg worlds, I looked at the entire map for building purposes and when I saw the abyss it looked tiny
hollow shell
Ok this conversation has probably gone on too long
ashen warren
Sad
hollow shell
@unique fable Fine suggestion, but you should replace the line "I think it would look really cool." with something else, as that's pretty weak and subjective
You could put more emphasis on how it would improve visual recognizability of the class helms, as it can be difficult to tell which helmet belongs to which class just by looking at em, and having class-themed colors would help solve that
fast viper
i like this suggestion
it seems kind of hard to implement though, cuz it's just the headpiece
"i think it would look really cool" is kinda weaksauce reasoning though, you should provide something more concrete
fossil finch
this is also kinda
Weaksauce in practice
this would interfere with texture packs and probably look odd as hell
grim tusk
Yea and armors are made of the same material so it doesnt make sense for em to be different color anyways, helmets being very different is enough
fossil finch
"diversity" is also weaksauce because there's hundreds of different sets to use for vanity and vanity is all this change provides
i you want other colors use, well, vanity armor
fossil finch
also those
vital sorrel
Yeah, just dye it. The aura idea isn’t a bad concept. But auras stop being special is every set can potentially have one
fossil finch
"recognition" as rover exampled would also be weaksauce because if you don't want to look at the tooltips that's 100% on you
keen zealot
text exists for a reason as well
fossil finch
a neon sign telling you "hey yeah use this" is unneeded, imo
Would be more understandable if you like, had to go to the wiki for this
But this is in game info, so lol
keen zealot
if you can't read you have bigger problems than determining which class helm to use
hollow shell
"recognition" as rover exampled would also be weaksauce because if you don't wan...
That's annoying, though
The fact that you cannot discern class at a glance, you must hover over and read the tooltip
fossil finch
not really?
it takes 5 seconds at most of looking at the stats the armor piece provides
keen zealot
generally melee hats are overbuilt and mage/summoner hats look very light
ranger is somewhere in the middle
that's your signposting
hollow shell
Bloodflare
fossil finch
byeah even if it's "annoying" (i don't see how is it any more annoying than booting the game up and learning how to use a computer to properly play terraria) i still stand on one of the main issues: texturepacks
fossil finch
having it be auras would be the saving grace of them but as someone pointed out before it'd end up being so common they stop being special
plus what if you don't want the aura
hollow shell
A lot of the game's armor sets actually have this problem, I realize
fossil finch
what if the aura ruins your thought out vanity set and you don't want it but you're forced to have it
keen zealot
oh right, the new graphics
keen zealot
generally melee hats are overbuilt and mage/summoner hats look very light
well this used to be true lmao
fossil finch
conclusion this sugg is not possible to save ~~it won't pass anyways, and if it does it'd doubt it'd be approved let alone done ~~
hollow shell
Kinda rude
crude geode
^
Also like look at titanium’s helmets, ranged has less face protection than mage lmao
fossil finch
i still find the reasons not to do it to have much more weight than the reasons to do it
crude geode
well this *used* to be true lmao
crude geode
hollow shell
hollow shell
smol
crude geode
Yeee
fossil finch
yet i still don't know how is reading any more annoying that doing all the grinding this game has for design
keen zealot
it's only grinding if you're looking for one specific thing
hollow shell
Because individual problems are fixable even if there are other problems?
crude geode
Consider the fact that people complain constantly about making wrong weapons out of rogue/melee hybrids
keen zealot
already been fixed, wait for the update
fossil finch
grinding is not a problem in terraria though is what i mean
not all of it
it's game design
crude geode
It’s the same principle, having the accents would let you identify the class for each helm easily
fossil finch
my point here is that like
it takes reading, if you want anything more easy than that then idk, not everything needs to be handled to a silver plate to you like this (i still don't get how is this annoying, takes some seconds of reading)
for vanity stuff already is available
texturepacks would get fucked by this, and i wouldn't like that and probably a lot more people wouldn't either
hollow shell
Explain the texture pack thing
keen zealot
they're taking the auras bit into consideration
fossil finch
assuming calamity uses own textures, those would override's texturepacks
fossil finch
and assuming auras, then i already said the thing about how people could also not like that (though truth be told it could be an item thing only, making vanity complaint non existant)
keen zealot
of course it would be super easy to make the aura effects textures themselves
(if it's on the worn version at least)
then you could just make the aura a 100% transparent image if you want
problem solved
hollow shell
We could have the class identifier only affect the item sprites, and not the worn sprites
hollow shell
Like if we gave each class helm a colored outline
or put a lil orb in the corner
Then when you wear it it looks the same as normal
keen zealot
this is also where the game could really benefit from sorting items by class in the crafting menu
fossil finch
people download that one mod that makes items have their thorium class thing that's standalone
That exists iirc
And affects armor helmets
(iirc)
((probably malding on these one, haven't opened 1.3 browser in ages))
hollow shell
I have never heard of that mod before and I, in fact, don't know what the "thorium class thing" is
keen zealot
this is also where the game could really benefit from sorting items by class in ...
but this has its own problems
fossil finch
thorium has a little thing on their own classes that displays the class the item belongs to just below the name
keen zealot
multiclass in a single item
hollow shell
I assume the mod does that for Melee, Ranged, etc?
fossil finch
uses the color usually associated with the class and puts a little
-- Melee item -- or melee can't remember
yeah but i think it's a toggeable config
hollow shell
That's pretty nice
fossil finch
haven't played thorium in a long while so not sure
i also recall seeing a mod that did that standalone
(what i said before)
keen zealot
coloured damage types was a favourite mod of mine when it worked
fossil finch
anyways i think everything has been said already, sugg's a sugg
gray nebula
cool idea
I like how it'd force us to make sets have more color variety but at the same time I don't like how it'd also prevent that variety from going very far and might feel contrived
a visual aura thing could be appreciated when in the crafting menus. but maybe that should be only activated through an item toggle or config or whatever
grim tusk
Maybe have a tool tip with the class color instead?
Like with the nature/fire weapons thing that is getting implemented
Or endocooper’s tool tip
hollow shell
Well part of the appeal is being able to tell what class it is at a glance
color in tooltips will help but they will still require you to hover over it
or, in the wiki's case, go to its armor page and find its infobox
grim tusk
Makes sense
gray nebula
which one of these few cases is htis reffering to
gray nebula
i have no idea how that can be considered very distinct
i mean yeah they dont look the exact same but
i cant tell by just looking at them which one is what class
earnest raptor
Ok
crude geode
yeah exactly
crude geode
How do accessories do this?
earnest raptor
Rogue and Ranged accessories can be very similar.
crude geode
Accessories have this thing to lesser extent
This line, how do accessories differentiate things in any way compared to class helmets.
unique fable
<@!393782248689893377> Fine suggestion, but you should replace the line "I think...
editeed
crude geode
Also if you're building a tanking build or a glass cannon build you might as well do the work yourself to find the best facetanking or glass cannon strategy
earnest raptor
Ok
hollow shell
editeed
You could still explain the differentiate-on-sight thing more, what we had a big long conversation about here
That, and vanilla does not really do a better job than Calamity does at defining classes by helmet
Like, look at these
#suggestions-discussion message
Your suggestion could even be made to extend to vanilla helmets
grim tusk
@white moat add reasoning to your suggestion
cobalt pewter
Also check the formatting
grim tusk
For me it seems he only placed the title but didnt place why
hollow shell
Yeah, you gotta add a reason/elaboration to your suggestion using a line break (Shift+Enter)
Yep, that looks good now
robust lava
It's a tML thing, no?
cobalt abyss
Oh I see
robust lava
There is an additional mod you can download called "Shader Library" or something that may fix it
grim tusk
Aint that a bug rather than a sugg
Hell a dont in the doc
“Fix …”
“Go to #bugs-read-pins “
grim tusk
https://discord.com/channels/225030931008847874/332659630087995392/8196818916906...
But yea good mod
weak field
I see nothing wrong with this
If you need that functionality you can always just put down a flare which isn't something that's extremely hard to get at that stage of the game
hollow shell
Which one are you talkin about?
keen zealot
Which one are you talkin about?
#suggestions-posting message this probably
crude geode
The latest sugg in posting
hollow shell
I see
Couldn't quite tell what they meant from the wording
I get it now, they support the sugg
hollow shell
Hm, this one focuses a bit much on the explanation and not much on the reason why
final bloom
ok, give me a second. I'll rework and add to it
hollow shell
Aighty
fossil finch
This (may) not be needed since, well
Draedon's logs are draedon's logs and lore items might be removed in 1.4 if they are eventually added to bestiary, which is totally on you devs to decide
final bloom
is that better?
fossil finch
Aside of that, lore gameplay integration, whatever and whatever
sleek turret
I like the idea of Draedon Logs being like a 'boss checklist' of some sort for reading them, and also for Lore items. Although probably those would be moved to 1.4 bestiary system.
final bloom
This (may) not be needed since, well
Draedon's logs are draedon's logs and lore ...
well I didn't want to base my suggestion on 1.4 content. I know Lore items are going away, which is one reason I made this suggestion
fossil finch
can you remove the line about it being good lore compared to others and it having depth or whatever because that's subjective and unneeded ((and many would argue it isn't true)) (not actually something you have to do)
final bloom
I'll reword it to be less subjective
fossil finch
I'd also say you could axe the entire explanation on how the item would work regarding drae logs and stuff, again not obligatory, keep it if you want, but specifics are not encouraged (and in this case you aren't adding much to the sugg as it's kinda logic how'd it work and stuff)
Sadly we can't poll the 200+ people that vote suggs so i may aswell be rambling about a length problem that doesn't actually exist because the people who vote don't actually care
final bloom
The explanation was more of just for visualization, to get people to see the type of thing I want. It's not really to say I specifically want this or that. I have zero artistic talent, so it may be better implemented in some other fashion. The main point is a centralized collection of lore that can be accessed in-game
twilit warren
I am in love with this sugg
one of the issues with calamity lore is a lot of players don't bother to check it out because it's only on the wiki
fossil finch
Tbf this specific sugg won't solve that
It's asking to putbthe lore items and drae logs in a sinfle place
Useful for this but not directly a full on integration
final bloom
To be honest even if this wasn't added to the base mod, even having a stand alone mod that adds lore functionality would be ok. Similar to how Calamity Vanities adds content to the base Calamity game
twilit warren
ye
fossil finch
It's up to the devs to include things in it (if it passes and gets approved) so it's not important to discuss it i think
final bloom
With the current amount of lore items in-game, this new feature would be very bare. But having the framework would let them more easily add to it later
fossil finch
In general more gameplay-lore integration is needed which is (hopefully) coming and, hopefully too, not all of it is doing ctrl c ctrl v over a lot of text inside a fancy book item
I mean it's not like the lore items entail a lot of the existing lore
They're yharim's short and concise thoughts on random thing #yes
twilit warren
yeah we definitely need more ingame lore integration
bold cypress
honestly the fact that so many bosses and enemies are immune to all debuffs is a bit annoying, as when playing with mods that add more damaging debuffs, things can just go 'lol no' and are immune to it.
cobalt pewter
Debuff immunity are going to be tanked in 1.5 afaik
Actually nvm
I thought it's debuff immunity
Turns out it's just the debuffs inflicted
crude geode
tropic yoke
Been a while since I've visited here
tropic yoke
Does furniture graphic fixes constitute this part of the server?
I find it kind of silly how statigel chairs stand on a single pixel
Or would that go in the art server
grim tusk
Maybe on #bugs-read-pins
hollow shell
Furniture is usually programmed to sink downward one pixel to prevent visuals like this on grass or other irregular blocks
tropic yoke
oop
hollow shell
You can probably report as a bug
grim tusk
Not really a bug as it is a kind of gross design
Well asking for resprites cuz the thing looks ugly is a dont, go read doc
But yea thats a bug and its present with some other stuff like silva platforms
hollow shell
(that's stretching the scope of the Don't)
grim tusk
Any suggestions asking for something to be resprited (based on poor quality)
?
hollow shell
Yes, that's supposed to catch stuff like full on resprites/redesigns
not minor visual fixes like this
grim tusk
Ah ok
sleek wadi
Boss suggs are a don't
round ravine
I was going to say that.
grim tusk
@exotic jungle boss suggs are not allowed
exotic jungle
ok
round ravine
But yeah, they won't be adding any more bosses in Calamity as far as I'm aware.
Aside from Draedon, Yharim, Xeroc and the other superboss (can't remember their name).
robust lava
Noxus
round ravine
Yeah, them. Thanks.
grim tusk
Why wouldnt they?
hollow shell
You can program your own boss if you want to
You can make your mod dependent on Calamity, that's fine
obsidian cove
the tmod discord has a channel for requests that you could try to use
eternal escarp
#suggestions-voting message , #suggestions-voting message
since this is manual i thought id help by posting the recent non-tagged 200 star suggestions i could find (hopefilly i got the message links correctly)
exotic jungle
Ok, im sad that no one got my reference tho
dapper coral
cheers, will send
fossil finch
clearly no one got their reference referencing one of the most popular games of the last decade
hollow shell
(What would spur someone to respond to it like "haha was that a reference to the obscure 2015 indie game Undertale?")
eternal escarp
hollow shell
(Also the phrasing doesn't make sense
You don't want hopes and dreams, you have hopes and dreams
You could have said you want someone to act on your hopes and dreams or something like that)
eternal escarp
funniest thing is if it somehow ends up referencing a totally different form of media 
hollow shell
... weird suggestion
It doesn't really work unless RLCraft already has a quote saying "Also try Calamity"
timid flower
Ik
I might as well put it there
IDC if it doesn't get implemented
Also I'd doubt adding an NPC quote to reference another game would be something the Devs are bothered to do in the midst of everything
But there's no harm in trying? If it gets the ❗ I'll just delete lmao
grim tusk
Does it have a practical purpose? No
Does RLCraft reference cal? Likely not
Is this just for the sake of having a reference? Seems like it
This will likely wont pass if it somehow gets 200 stars
fossil finch
this is literally a dont
grim tusk
Or would just get ❗
Cuz
- Any suggestions whose only reason for existing is to be a reference to something else.
Example: Add an item which stops time when used, because Za Warudo!
Reason: Simply being a reference is not a valid reason for a suggestion to be implemented. A suggestion should have actual reasoning behind it about why it would benefit the mod.
grim tusk
Well this sugg is pretty much a ❗ material isnt it
weak field
If everybody put a suggestion every time it pops up in their mind we would have a billion of them per second and 99% aren't remotely salvageable
dim star
rlcraft is trash therefore no
based
earnest raptor
eternal escarp
lofty lintel
Good idea.
marble hazel
gotcha
eternal escarp
danke
patent nimbus
@stiff crow read the don'ts doc
stiff crow
ok
hollow shell
What you're asking for has been planned already by the devs for like
3 or 4 years
From before I became a dev, even
dim star
💀
hardy dock
teal wolf
who do I contact for patron item stuff again?
hollow shell
Ah, you are the Face Melter donor, right?
teal wolf
yeah
hollow shell
You can bring up your concern here or in my DMs ig
teal wolf
there was a suggestion that lined up with my initial vision that I just wanted to point out
about it using a guitar riff sound similar to the reference material if that was possible
I didn't actually know if it was possible is the thing when I pitched the item
hollow shell
#suggestions-voting message This sugg, right?
hollow shell
mm You have brought this up before, too
teal wolf
yeah Im pretty sure it was because I was pinged because the guy suggested it
hollow shell
yeah
Well, it was a different sugg asking for the exact same thing
(didn't go through cuz of bot reasons)
teal wolf
I was gonna dm you, but I ended up forgetting
hollow shell
We have a policy against changing donor weapons after they're implemented on donor's request
but suggestions to change those items, with donor approval, are totally fair game
And this suggestion already got delivered and approved in the past
So, I'll bring this up in the dev server to draw more attention to it
Someone could repost the suggestion if they want, too
The other one is over a year old
vernal epoch
before i send the suggestion, what are peoples thoughts on possibly implementing the words before sCal theme starts into the game. right at the start of this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MT6HTpY_OyE. i was thinking this could be played as an introduction to supreme calamitas and really hype up her spawning. this would only play the first time you summoned the boss on each world, so it wouldnt get annoying having to wait each attempt.
and then bullet hell 1 starts at its normal point in the song
maybe sCal fades/flies into the screen and has some sort of animation from 0:17
hollow shell
You should probably hold onto this idea for now
SCal is getting a lot of changes in the coming update, including sound design and her summon method
vernal epoch
seems fair
fossil finch
[Insert generic "voice acting in terraria lo"]
grim tusk
lunar sky
Do they occasionally delete all the suggestions in #suggestions-posting or something?
sleek turret
Do they occasionally delete all the suggestions in <#699359022364491868> or some...
after 24 hours the suggestion is posted, what happens is that it goes to #suggestions-voting if it isn't marked with an ❗ on the reactions
lunar sky
Oh ok
sleek turret
if it occurs to have a ❗ its deleted 24 hours after
grim tusk
And now there isnt any suggestion
And there isnt much to suggest either
reworking obscure rogue accs
sleek turret
suggestion bingo I guess
fossil finch
Can't wait until 1.5 suggestions: "make scal npc dateable plz"
fossil finch
spring lantern
weak field
Why
short walrus
weak field
never mind whatever
grim tusk
brisk bramble
tardy smelt
crude geode
@marble hazel
dusty venture
wtf
marble hazel
@spring lantern dont talk about that shit here pls or any inappropriate stuff thanks
fossil finch
why not just use better multiplayer
formatting
eternal escarp
@wise niche yeah you need to format your sugg correctly
Title
Description + Reason
wise niche
ah alright
eternal escarp
using Shift+Enter
eternal escarp
> why not just use better multiplayer
> formatting
also prolly respond to this
earnest raptor
And there isnt much to suggest either
~~reworking obscure rogue accs~~
suggestion: release 1.5 faster
reason: we need new content for suggestions
lunar sky
frail mantle
suggestion: just wait
reason: just wait
wooden wedge
@primal python yea ^
DoG is already getting changed next update iirc
that and your sugg breaks several don'ts.
primal python
ok thanks
hollow shell
The entirety of Post-ML is rebalanced next update
primal python
that and your sugg breaks several don'ts.
witch ones
wooden wedge
read the pinned suggs doc
hollow shell
I don't know how many Don'ts it broke
but it was not formatted properly
Needs to be formatted
Like this. With a top line summary and a bottom section (here) containing elaboration and reasoning
distant gyro
I was waiting for someone to do that
keen zealot
watched it get a check in real time
distant gyro
in 4k
tranquil perch
ping me when discussing my sugg
fossil finch
when the sugg is su
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fossil finch
why
tranquil perch
sus jokes make me 
fossil finch
ok
distant gyro
@tranquil perch #suggestions-voting message
tranquil perch
untold pagoda
yea
ichor darts are insane
they split, and before it splits it pierces, so it can split inside of an enemy
tranquil perch
you should probably attach a video to your sugg