idk what's the average dps on that tier?
#suggestions-discussion
tardy smelt
like
10K at most
from what I can recall
the power curve isn't really that noticable until post-doggo
tardy smelt
Icebreaker 
gusty drift
undefined
tardy smelt
Icebreaker is not that great
except with a stealth build on worm bosses and if aimed and manipulated right
then it shreds
Early hardmode is definitely Stealth Rogue's strongest point in progression imo
though if we get siggy armor like how we came up with it then it'll get serious competition from pre-Yarhar P2 and pre-Doggo
brisk bramble
Deep Wounder vs Deus?
tardy smelt
it's post Calamitas
that's like too close in progression to deus for me
so it'll prolly work 
tardy smelt
yeah
looking at the stats
yeahhhh
on paper this would rip deus to pieces
tho imagine Deep Wounder titan heart build vs Doggo
tardy smelt
yeah
brisk bramble
Is Stealth Stellar knife Better than Spam Stellar knife/
tardy smelt
actually, imma go do that rq
the thing is that uhm
Deep Wounder has a base damage of 100 no?
brisk bramble
106
tardy smelt
I think that with stealth rogue boosts minmaxed it'd do like 20 damage per hit to deus
not counting his defense
brisk bramble
thats..
brisk bramble
How about stormfront Razor
tardy smelt
aight the body segments have 70 defense
I'm gonna allow myself pre-doggo gear tho besides my weapon and armor
so, reaper necklace for sure
Seraph Tracers?
frozen hornet
No other wings for pre-DoG
tardy smelt
well you could do wings+boots
frozen hornet
Fair but why even 
ashen warren
Soaring insignia is going to be sooooo overpowered
eternal escarp
take nor deal damage damage so
small nitpick but i think you meant to say damage once
eternal escarp
i think the suggestions is fine, the reason sounds like a reason and i think the idea is somewhat neat
heady lichen
I like it, more things like this should be introduced
more ambient enemies and more signs of bosses before you can fight them
fossil finch
:Overhaul:
grim tusk
Imma do a recap of all suggs reaching 200 (or extremely close 5 votes or less):
#suggestions-voting message 2 more votes
#suggestions-voting message 5 more
#suggestions-voting message reached 200
#suggestions-voting message 1 more
#suggestions-voting message reached 200
#suggestions-voting message reached 200
I dont know why but i expected to find more
Question: Is scuttler’s jewel not working on stealth strikes intended?
keen zealot
The self-knockback is intended to be a safety barrier against bosses and knock back immune enemies to allow true melee weapons to do an entire fight alone
you don't need this
part of the skill of true melee is learning how to properly space attacks such that you don't get hit while your foe does. this sugg throws all of that training out the window and suggests a new mechanic to actively fight against people who learned how while not really helping people who didn't
deft shuttle
hmmm, i guess i really hadn’t considered that.
tardy smelt
time to type out the CV/Signus armor suggestion we'd (Altraxia, Weaslecake, me and another fellow who's name I don't remember) been brainstorming before
tardy smelt
regardless
the main arguments are essentially
- consistency with SW armor
- despite that said stormweaver armor is a donor set it's still fairly odd there's no Signus/CV equivalent from a gameplay standpoint
- a chance for more variety in terms of armor options in the generally fairly barren post-moonlord (prehardmode has 39 armor sets, hardmode 43 but Post-Moonlord a mere 10 that you continuously swap out anyway)
3.5. Opportunity to add more class-specific Post-moonlord armor sets - more niche armor > more specialisation > more uniqueness
4.5. opportunity for more skill-based armor set bonuses
any issues with my reasoning
tardy smelt
I guess I could but I'm not keen on disturbing someone like that 
frozen hornet
fair
eternal escarp
- a chance for more variety in terms of armor options in the generally fairly barren post-moonlord (prehardmode has 39 armor sets, hardmode 43 but Post-Moonlord a mere 10 that you continuously swap out anyway)
could add that quite litterally every armor in Post-ML other then prismatic is either multiclass or omniclass
grim tusk
Yea the only class specific post-ML sets are lunar ones and prismatic
eternal escarp
oh right, forgot lunar exists
yeah they aswell count
grim tusk
The rest either have a helm from every class or are multiclass (Omega Blue and Fearmonger)
Speaking of Omega blue dont you feel that armor is near unusable outside of nohits (where stuff still beats it on glass cannon, unless its summoner or spam rogue) due to it completely snapping your life regen
eternal escarp
your supposed to use its setbonus for regen iirc
and healing potions at that stage are strong aswell ig
grim tusk
And get in a very close range and risk getting nuked by OD, DoG or Yharon’s contact dmg
eternal escarp
it is an armor more oriented for risk takers, so it seems
so honestly i dont really see an issue with that
grim tusk
and healing potions at that stage are strong aswell ig
Still cant outheal the brutal contact dmg at the tier + all of the debuff dmg of the tier
grim tusk
it is an armor more oriented for risk takers, so it seems
The problem is that its far too risky
While not having much reward
Reducing your life regen is alright but not completely snapping it
grim tusk
Yea maybe it will finally be used outside of nohits
It literally has that reputation of being the nohit armor
tardy smelt
> 3. a chance for more variety in terms of armor options in the generally fairly...
You're right yeah
Anything else that I missed/arguments that are too weak
frozen hornet
Omega blue becomes skilled-player armor instead of no-hitter armor
sleek turret
I'd rather say that Omega Blue Armor is infamously known as a glass-cannon armor rather than "only used by no-hitters" in there.
dim star
Imma do a recap of all suggs reaching 200 (or extremely close 5 votes or less):
...
He’s doing God’s work
solid folio
I think this suggestion would be pretty dope, just like aquatic scourge
The one in voting ofc
Seeing storm weaver weaving around would be v cool
fossil finch
gray nebula
develop on that pleas ,
i want to know more
i think it may go along nicely with my own epic suggestion to change yharon's treasure bag into a cracked egg, and to change every one of his drops into a malformed dragon fetus twisted into the shape of a weapon
fossil finch
When you kill yharon you can use his head as generic boss summon #39388483884848483858585848929494 but for yharim
fossil finch
i think it may go along nicely with my own epic suggestion to change yharon's tr...
Damn that's epic.,.,
gray nebula
yea
but i mean when am i not epic am i right
swap out r and s in eris for p and c and boom
fossil finch
Anyways this sugg is about future content and like not properly formatted so yeah
obsidian cove
@fickle dragon ^
hollow shell
Yeah you cannot make suggestions about future content
cobalt rose
ah the classic "i think it would be cool" reasoning
ashen warren
It does sound cool though
graceful hare
but it does sound cool...
fickle dragon
Yeah you cannot make suggestions about future content
my bad
but it does sound cool tho becuase it makes sense, like you would assume yharim would be angered by the death of yharon, so holding up his head would be basically like taunting yharim, thus summoning him, it would make sense
but again supreme calamitas does go before yharim and draedon so im not so sure
lapis canyon
Yharon doesn’t die tho
fickle dragon
yEaH hE diiiID
grim tusk
He resurects
fickle dragon
wait so what is that like in the lore
grim tusk
A phoenix dragon, dies then gets revived
brisk bramble
Hmm
Can we add the Rusty beacon Prototype the the Midnight Sun Beacon recipie?
It can make sense-
Cause Just building it out of just a xeno, Lunar and somre bars and fragments seems iffy
and the MSB looks similar to the RBP
distant gyro
maybe
brisk bramble
Itsl ike Restoring a broken piece of equipment to its former glory
frozen hornet
Quite the upgrade
ancient crow
pretty sure there are a few crafting recipes that use items or weapons from way earlier on in progression
brisk bramble
Rusty beacon Prototype rn does not have A crafting tree
It would be nice, however
Its going to be a pain to add different upgrades to one specific weapon
Or smthin
sleek turret
happens
frozen hornet
@safe tree suggestions to add specific items are not allowed
same with suggestions regarding future content like 1.4
frozen hornet
yes
safe tree
Well whatever i thought I'd try :/
grim tusk
<@!207350319779151882> suggestions to add specific items are not allowed
This doesnt mean you cant sugg items, but you cant suggest
It should be called [text] does [very specific function such as x amount of dmg of [class]]
Crafted with [text]
frozen hornet
ye
grim tusk
Things like add an item on say Frost/Pumpkin moon but not give any specifications is fine
safe tree
I'd need time, and a place to live again to be able to be more detailed and the like, life's been kicking me to the curb lately, moving this convo to general for rule reasons just in case.
grim tusk
It happens
gray nebula
suggest the removal of the javelin only restriction on scuttlers jewel instead
well
not instead, but as well
grim tusk
That would maybe be more fitting for another sugg but since the issue is similar sure
grim tusk
combining the suggs into one was easier than I thought
vital sorrel
Oh Id love that omega blue change. I absolutely love the way that armor looks and the ability it has, but purely no Regen made me shelf it really quick….
keen zealot
it might work better as both a boost and a downside if it just set life regen to 1 no matter what
disregard all buffs and debuffs
base regeneration and no more or less
that sounds a lot cooler than just lesser positive regen
grim tusk
well i didnt specify how much regen would be reduced so it can be reduced to 1 so ok i guess
grim tusk
that will cause issues with debuffs
keen zealot
yes
grim tusk
you will no longer loose hp since these lower your regen
keen zealot
yes
grim tusk
that be busted lmao
keen zealot
but what debuffs are really a major concern in the first place
grim tusk
that would be celestial jewel but stupid
grim tusk
but what debuffs are really a major concern in the first place
godslayer inferno, irradiated, venom, poison, feral bite, lethal lava burn and vul hex
from DoG, OD, Yharon and Scal
keen zealot
irradiated doesn't seem to do DoT to players
hex is only -8/s, not incredibly impactful late game
grim tusk
hex is only -8/s, not incredibly impactful late game
i have died to vul hex many times lmao
-8/s still chips your hp hard due to how long it lasts + other negative effects
keen zealot
wiki says only 8
also this doesn't negate all the effects of the debuffs, just the DoT
grim tusk
which is just celestial jewel
keen zealot
most sources of hex only give it for 2-3s
keen zealot
which is just celestial jewel
celestial jewel allows you to travel further into positive, this would just make it so your regen is the same no matter what
fossil finch
Something something alcohol poisoning
keen zealot
oooh
now that one is actually a concern
the enemies' DoT's are super tame, the strongest one is the godslayer flames with 15 dps, average sources being 3s inflicted
infinite alcohol is a whole other problem
keen zealot
that is rather aboozeable
grim tusk
n(ice) one
surreal drum
Good morning, lads, Im gonna post a suggestion soon
So, if you want, help me with the grammar, please
English is not my native language, so there might be a few a LOT of mistakes =w="
fossil finch
something something they're there so you don't run away
grim tusk
i only agree with making em not have em insta dmg but by having them not deal dmg the second they spawn
rest is :/
fossil finch
above
things shouldn't telefrag you by default
and even then, this is very easily evaded when it comes to rav's rock pillars
hollow shell
I thought the pillars were already coded to only deal damage after they jump and start falling?
Might be wrong
fossil finch
@bronze atlastester confirm kthanskbye (guy i pinged if you see this, ignore this, accidental ping)
hollow shell
...
fossil finch
why is there someone
hollow shell
Why did you not space the @
fossil finch
discord didn't even tell me someone was called like that
there was no recommendation
grim tusk
Good morning, lads, Im gonna post a suggestion soon
So, if you want, help me wit...
This is how i'd fix the sugg's grammar
Tweak Ravager's Rock Pillars
So, what's the problem with them you might say:
- They can hit the second they spawn, the most common situation being running away from the boss at full speed and get hit by the pillars.
- Dealing with them during Ravager's second phase is harder, considering Rav's speed, and again the pillars' ability to hit the player right when they spawn.
Perhaps make the pillars spawn further out to reduce the likeness of this happening, forcing the player to turn around yet not get hit unfairly when not trying to run in 1 direction.
surreal drum
I thought the pillars were already coded to only deal damage after they jump and...
It hit me at this distance
With their flying speed, it is most likely impossible to avoid the damage, even with RoD
hollow shell
This is how i'd fix the sugg's grammar
**Tweak Ravager's Rock Pillars**
So, wha...
(kinda impolite to rewrite somebody's entire suggestion)
surreal drum
This is how i'd fix the sugg's grammar
**Tweak Ravager's Rock Pillars**
So, wha...
Thanks nonetheless
hollow shell
wdym "at this distance"?
grim tusk
i can dodge the pillars in DAD mode in phase 1 with 0 issues, on ph2 its trickier but i feel its caused more by the floating head and trying to avoid the head and Rav at the same time, causing you to jump into the pillars
fossil finch
doesn't rav lack contact damage in p2 unless it's stomping now also
surreal drum
wdym "at this distance"?
It started to move (fly up) when I was this close to it
hollow shell
I see
grim tusk
(kinda impolite to rewrite somebody's entire suggestion)
yea my bad, tried to fix grammar but i kinda went too far
dapper coral
<@!275441687013228544>tester confirm kthanskbye (guy i pinged if you see this, i...
hi hello
i believe there is a very small period of time where the pillars don't do damage but i don't think it lasts until they start falling
i haven't looked at ravager for a couple weeks though so maybe i'll update later
fossil finch
thanks
surreal drum
Might be wrong, but isn't their purpose just to keep player close to Rav in order boss to not despawn?
Btw something should be done about him despawning
fossil finch
it's to keep the player close to rav in general
not only for despawning
a funny little problem 90% of the bosses in this game have is that you can press one of the direction buttons with a large enough arena and win
Rav specifically evades this with the pillar and his jumps
fossil finch
This is literally a don't
(Because the toggle is called toggling death off when doing x you don't want death to affect)
regal prism
Oh, sorry, won't do again.
keen zealot
discord didn't even tell me someone was called like that
funny thing: there isn't
that person isn't in this server
keen zealot
???
keen zealot
yes
fossil finch
anyways they are in this server, let it be, offtopic anyways
keen zealot
one of the reasons it can decide to not load it is because of that setting that doesn't let people see your profile if you don't share servers
fossil finch
except they are
swift wharf
aren't leg drops being reworked?
gray nebula
nohitters
dapper coral
@full thistle legendary drops are already being reworked for 1.5, check the pins in #calamity-update-talk for details
shrewd solar
Whoever suggested making brimstone elemental “sfw”. Just no
livid linden
wooden wedge
someone just made a post to make brim more "sfw" because she had boobs
that's about it
hollow shell
YouTube thumbnails
crude geode
Also anyone who wants to play with a younger sibling
it’s not a popular suggestion Bc horny (and also things like Cirrus exist) but it has it’s reasonings
grim tusk
Also Vanilla: Dryad
brisk bramble
Zoologist-
ashen warren
Well drunk princess is an optional npc
hollow shell
(Brim is also an optional boss)
wooden wedge
[how dare female characters in vidya game have boobs >:( ]
crude geode
Like I said, not a popular suggestion for obvious reasons, but there is actual logic and reasoning behind it. Just let it stay dead unless someone suggests it again, it’s been 18 days.
fossil finch
The logic behind it is stale when terraria has piss book
brisk bramble
And it has gore-
Literal Flesh biome
crude geode
Also gonna drop this here as well, since it links to the convo previously held when this suggestion was actually in posting.
fossil finch
blood and gore doesn't do shit here
Recolors/removes some dust particles, that's it
crude geode
I mean yes, but it’s also pixelated gore.
and at it’s heart it’s still pretty much a family friendly game
fossil finch
Idk about that
brisk bramble
Calamity is probably around 13+ or smthin
crude geode
Eh, probably not that much. The community here on discord prolly.
brisk bramble
dapper coral
Eh, probably not that much. The community here on discord prolly.
~~which is partially contributed to by the fact that it is illegal for people under 13 to be on discord ~~
hollow shell
@pure verge You need to format your suggestion properly
A title/summary at the top, with reasoning/elaboration below, separated by a line break (Shift+Enter)
You should also expand more on the reason why it would be awesome
hollow shell
This is better, Daniel, thanks
obsidian cove
Is terraria ambiance another mod?
hollow shell
I assume so yeah
brisk bramble
For a weapon thats hard to obtain
It aint a good support minion too
hollow shell
I have not heard of it before but it sounds neat
mighty knot
I thought cross-compatibility suggestions were disallowed?
hollow shell
Are they?
pure verge
Is terraria ambiance another mod?
yeah, I use it for my playthroughs because I like giving the world some more life.
hollow shell
~~I thought cross-compatibility suggestions were disallowed?~~
Nah I don't think that's a rule
There haven't been very many
I was gonna post the suggestion to do Census compatibility, as evidence of not bein against the rules, but
#suggestions-voting message
It's from 2019, lol
But either way yeah this is fine
frozen hornet
I love ambience but the mod makes me lag hard 
hollow shell
True! I'm surprised this doesn't get brought up more often
Rarities change with reforges in vanilla, but not in Cal with the post-ML raritites
wooden wedge
there might just be a technical reason for that
since custom rarities work weirdly iirc
distant gyro
why do modifiers even do that
it's not like your items are more rare if you hit the weapon against the tinkerer like 5 times
or 500 times in the public version
sleek wadi
On the first craft it makes sense, a rare item having an even rarer alteration
earnest raptor
since custom rarities work weirdly iirc
Yes, but it's pretty easy to implement.
When I saw the decompilation of clam, rarities were defined as custom field separate from vanilla rarities.
As all default custom rarities are Red.
And they change to Purple on reforge.
You would just need to check if item became Purple in tooltip rendering.
cobalt pewter
Reforging changing rarities is kinda weird anyways
Especially with the new reforging changes in cal, I'd honestly consider removing rarity changes in reforges
imo
tardy smelt
woooo- this is going swimmingly
distant gyro
Especially with the new reforging changes in cal, I'd honestly consider removing...
my thoughts exactly
seems like a pointless mechanic
hollow shell
It's decently useful when spamming reforges for quickly seeing which ones are potentially good
so you don't skip the good ones as quickly
though we don't need to worry about that anymore
distant gyro
you generally don't know which rarity is above which
and also the best modifier has the same rarity as the 3rd best
wooden wedge
If anything reforging should just be suggested to be better lol
Like a locking mechanic where you choose what reforge you want and you get stopped from reforming past that
Also fuck my phones autocorrect for actually not letting me write the word I've been trying to write several times
dapper coral
(reforging is becoming awesome in 1.5)
dapper coral
Like a locking mechanic where you choose what reforge you want and you get stopp...
also this is just autoreroll iirc
or autoreforge, or whatever
mod
it exists
eternal escarp
autoreroll also forces you to delete huge amounts of money iirc
because you cant stop on a mediocre reforge if you get tired of it
eternal escarp
you can, but it goes through every reforge randomly anyways
it just does it automatically
and if you, per say, want to take Ruthless instead of Unreal, you cant stop the automation in the middle, i think
dapper coral
oh i see what you mean
eternal escarp
the automation continues until the previously desired reforge or until your money gone™️
dapper coral
idk if you can, actually
dapper coral
I have been out of the terraria loop for like 2 years lol
who actually plays this game anymore lets be real
eternal escarp
wooden wedge
Tru
eternal escarp
i love this quote and it somewhat fits now aswell
distant gyro
you can stop if you pick the item up mid animation
eternal escarp
well i think the reforges are way to fast for it to be usefull iirc
brisk bramble
Ruthless is better than Mythical for summoner cause 18% vs 15%
cobalt pewter
Byeah, cal's progressive reforge won't need the
Rarity changes tbh
Though I def can't suggest it because future content
frozen hornet
Ruthless is better than Mythical for summoner cause 18% vs 15%
Summoner reforges when
fossil finch
Doesn't ucmm add modded biome ambience
real steppe
I wonder if the Sentinels patrolling sugg would get approved if it ever gets 200 stars..
fossil finch
I don't think they'd be against that to base levels, even if not directly what was sugged
real steppe
The changes in 1.4 such as swaying trees, moving flora, and others are what makes 1.4 feel alive in my opinion
That sentinel suggestion can help bring some of those immersion to Calamity
fossil finch
Especially considerin' after 1.5 planned stuff to add is basically better biomes and that type of stuff
graceful hare
No more floating islands pog
fossil finch
wh
ashen warren
i have a suggestion but it has to do w the ambrosial ampule
does anyone know if its alr being reworked in 1.5
grim tusk
Iirc it aint getting changed
eternal escarp
the Ampoule isnt known to have any changes, afaik yeah
grim tusk
Besides now requiring cryonic bars rather than frigid
ashen warren
okay
fossil finch
ended up checking, @pure verge gonna let you know the mod Unofficial Calamity Mod Music, aside of adding music for vanilla stuff to fit with calamity, has ambience too for the vanilla and calamity biomes, just letting you know
grim tusk
I’d change the title to Buff ambrosial ampule’s components
Otherwise yea its fine
gaunt quest
there already is a boss being added at the bottom lol (well an enemy is being turned into a boss)
plus rip the suggestion format
worn salmon
the suggestion is cool but sounds kinda vague
fossil finch
something something bad formatting no reasoning
gaunt quest
it's also suggesting something that is already happening in a way
short walrus
@exotic stag you can right click it with the summon staff and the minions will target it
exotic stag
no actually they dont.
i've been right clicking on this same piggy with the scab ripper for like 5 minutes now
they dont target it
crude geode
You can always just catch it
exotic stag
yeah but monei
crude geode
Sells for almost as much as it drops
still zodiac
Pretty much
crude geode
Depending on difficulty
just confirmed this in game, could probably be extended to other passive mobs you can't target such as ??? and the cysts
exotic stag
actually yeah thats also probably a good idea
should i perhaps add it?
or just keep the suggestion the same and add a little P.S thing in the bottom
still zodiac
Would be neat
fossil finch
pretty sure ??? and cysts aren't targeted because, well
it'd be a pain in the ass if they were
crude geode
right click.
fossil finch
(i believe they used to)
still zodiac
But in that case the title should probably be changed
still zodiac
(i believe they used to)
Not to my knowledge
exotic stag
But in that case the title should probably be changed
i put it in a little "p.s"
still zodiac
Yea but what if people don't care about the piggy
crude geode
if you're making this a config I think it would be best if it was something more significant, such as targeting passive mobs in general and not this one singular mob.
still zodiac
And won't see the main point
exotic stag
if you're making this a config I think it would be best if it was something more...
k..
hows that
eternal escarp
@waxen ruin you need to format your suggestion correctly and give proper reasoning, "it would be cool" isnt a proper reason
gaunt quest
plus abyss boss is already a thing in the next update
eternal escarp
(technically yes)
waxen ruin
<@!862045914511835186> you need to format your suggestion correctly and give pro...
uhh i was just saying that i thought it would be cool, my god
still zodiac
Well there are rules to suggestions
gaunt quest
it's not formatted correct and that isn't good enough reasoning
eternal escarp
i was just quoting the rule
it wasnt directed directly at you with any reason of attacking
waxen ruin
Is it really that big of a deal
eternal escarp
yes
waxen ruin
bruh\
eternal escarp
thats why rules exist
(they are at the top of #suggestions-posting and the pins of this channel)
and without proper formatting the sugg cant be picked up by the bot so that one is 100% neccesary
fossil finch
suggestions are filtered about 2 times before going to dev
here we make sure suggs aren't shitposty or extremely vague on why
voting makes sure people like the sugg
then the sugg doesn't pass by anyways because this whole thing is a lie
calamity was never real
eternal escarp
waxen ruin
wtf
eternal escarp
in reality, #suggestions-posting is where people post the suggestions at first and you can weed out the memes / the ones that cant work / are too vague
and #suggestions-voting is to ensure the sugg would be worth while and not directed at about 5 or 6 people
waxen ruin
ok dude i get it
eternal escarp
and in dev place they vote if they implement the sugg or not so technically theres 3 steps
fossil finch
literally what i said though
eternal escarp
well you memed the explanation so bad iirc
still zodiac
You're not blast so yours doesn't sound cool
waxen ruin
You're not blast so yours doesn't sound cool
wut
eternal escarp
he said a joke, basically
fossil finch
me omw to arson so mine sound cool
tawny garden
m, duplicated
ashen warren
Ravager’s gigantic rock pillars of towering might iirc.
proper grail
fossil finch
Welcome back
who are you
fossil finch
true
hollow shell
There's a reason for that 
grim tusk
hollow shell
I guess they could.
Their intended purpose is more to be like an obstacle while fighting the minibosses, as they eat up all of your proj's pierce
I dunno how well they serve that purpose, though
grim tusk
Bloatfish should drop something
Drops voidstone iirc, other than that yea
grim tusk
I dunno how well they serve that purpose, though
Minor inconvenience
I rarely ever see them inside combat
worldly cypress
I think some of the Abyss enemies could drop more loot
not all of them, but some at least
Bloatfish are just a minor inconvenience when you encounter them
Bobbit worms actually drop the hook which is useful
but Bloatfish and the Puffers are just fairly useless
grim tusk
Puffers drop chaotic ore iirc
worldly cypress
scoria?
worldly cypress
but thats not really useful especially for an enemy only encountered very late game
grim tusk
Maybe
There isnt any rogue bomb at post-Polter, but neither is an abyss ranger wep drop
distant gyro
what do you think the bloat in the bloatfish means
worldly cypress
maybe an accessory
distant gyro
but yeah I expect it to have no new drops
worldly cypress
rip
distant gyro
Calamity doesn't have a lot of PML enemies that serve no true purpose but the regular game is full of it
worldly cypress
Regular game has tons of useless enemies
worldly cypress
calamity has some useless enemies but not too many which I appreciate a lot
obsidian cove
theres only like 40 ai styles total for enemys
worldly cypress
only ones i can think of are like those spaceships you encounter
what are they called
shockstorm shuttle I think
those things are pretty useless
but at least they look cool
frozen hornet
they drop martian conduit platings if you don't want to have to deal with the martian invasion
worldly cypress
yeah but martians give good weapons
like the thing that becomes alpha ray
and influx waver
and other stuff
plus who even uses the conduit plating
frozen hornet
Builders
worldly cypress
true
frozen hornet
I like this sugg
hollow shell
Yeah I like the idea
mighty knot
||you can star your own suggestions btw||
@summer stump looks good, just format it with the header and body (detailed in pins of #suggestions-posting). I'd also suggest you elaborate on the reason a bit, though it's probably fine
distant gyro
chlorophyte bars drop from jungle crates post-plantera
summer stump
chlorophyte bars drop from jungle crates post-plantera
Oh, wait, they do?!
distant gyro
yeah
distant gyro
25% 5-10
summer stump
Ok
cobalt pewter
@wary kettle
- Get good with stealth lol
- Check pins, you're probably violating a good bunch of stuff in it
distant gyro
if you want that just make your own mod
tardy smelt
||you can star your own suggestions btw||
||I'm too proud to do that - but sure||
earnest raptor
||you can star your own suggestions btw||
||isn't that very scummy?||
earnest raptor
||#suggestions-voting is for community support measure, not how much you want it||
eternal escarp
its just 1 vote out of 199
it wont go a long way alone
earnest raptor
Yeah
But I remember than somebody said here than self-star is bad practice.
Found only this right now.
earnest raptor
199
Wait, since when
distant gyro
that's when suggestions required 35 stars or something
earnest raptor
fossil finch
It's not like people are gonna check
distant gyro
1/35 is a way bigger fraction than 1/200
fossil finch
> 199
Wait, since when
Bot's reaction is the first one
earnest raptor
that's when suggestions required 35 stars or something
I am living the past, yeah.
earnest raptor
Found only this right now.
earnest raptor
Muscle memory!
fossil finch
#suggestions-voting message smh this isn't flagged
distant gyro
technically it's not the same item
fossil finch
It's extremely similar smh
earnest raptor
Technically two spoons are not the same because atoms, molecules and alloying
And this sugg is from legacy era, when only checks were blue and green.
tardy smelt
well it got beyond 200 anyway
crude geode
Starring your own suggestions being a scummy thing is kinda a bygone thing, considering bot gives you a star for free and you can always just go ask someone/a friend in dms to do it
eternal escarp
this used to be a thing, and was removed
just use the dash you want to use
(also you should format your suggestion correctly else the bot cant pick it up)
robust lava
Isn't it still determined by order of accessory slots?
eternal escarp
modded and normal dashes merge and shtuff iirc
t'is a bug thing i think though you prolly already know considering where you exist most frequently
robust lava
Yeah I did quite a bit of testing on this. Modded + vanilla dashes interact weirdly and buggily.
However, two modded dashes like Asgard's Valor and Counter Scarf should just be determined by order of slots, which is what I'm seeing in game right now when testing
robust lava
The lower slot takes dash priority
olive orbit
Oh wow, I never knew that
eternal escarp
ah, like wing vanities iirc
makes sense then, the lowest slot is the most dominent basically, then
robust lava
As I said though, if you're mixing vanilla and Calamity dashes, don't expect them to co-exist nicely
That may be fixed next update ™️
olive orbit
I have one more suggestion, but I'm waiting for the time limit unfortunately
eternal escarp
(also you should format your suggestion correctly else the bot cant pick it up)
re-sending this message
olive orbit
Oh, I wasn't aware there was format we were using
eternal escarp
also, i think the dash sugg is pretty dull, seeing as the first example is a thing and the last example was a feature that was removed
yeah the format is basically
Title
Reason and Description
(using Shift + Enter)
olive orbit
I'll go ahead and remove mine and reformat
eternal escarp
you can edit the second suggestion so you wont have to wait
fossil finch
already done next update generally, currently the spawnrates are simply higher than originally intended
wintry wharf
grim tusk
@olive orbit aint defiled feather doing that on next patch
distant gyro
I really don't understand what that means
wing flight times are already reduced by 100% in defiled
unless it really means disable all forms of jumps too, in which case, how are you supposed to dodge
robust lava
@olive orbit Sorry for double ping, but do you have Rocket Boots or any of its upgrades equipped as well?
distant gyro
on a second read I think there's some core misunderstanding here
Rocket Boots are the ones providing "flight"
by equipping wings you are making the rocket boots activate on the single instance you jump, instead of having to jump then press again to activate rockets
robust lava
This is my guess as well
olive orbit
I use angel treads
grim tusk
In defiled Bundle of balloons is better than MOAB due to it providing jump boost, making it used til Yharon (on nohits at least)
fossil finch
moab shall never get buffed exclusively to spite defiled players :troll:
olive orbit
@distant gyro When I use Angel treads, the sponge, and the sandstorm jump from a bundle of balloons or sandstorm in a balloon, with the buff you get to movement speed after being hit and using the sandstorm jump at the same time, you can go really fast, hitting 91 mph. As soon as you equip any sort of wing, even in vanity, or you cannot do what I said above. If you would like, I don't mind demoing it to you since I may not be conveying what I mean through words clearly.
grim tusk
Maybe a post-ML upgrade to MOAB rather than an alternative upgrade to bundle
BFB or smth although it may be a BAD idea
olive orbit
I forgot that the wing flight you get form Seraph's Tracer's are actually the rocket boots with a wing animation
fossil finch
BFB or smth although it may be a BAD idea
i am gonna
give you an award 🚎
novel belfry
Are @ everyone pings disabled? I cant tell
ancient mirage
yeah they are
mighty knot
ofc
novel belfry
thank god
grim tusk
@olive orbit specific item suggestions are not allowed; make the suggestion less specific
And go 
cobalt pewter
Would this be able to be technically flagged with the recent changelogs?
#suggestions-voting message
eternal escarp
really remember that sugg for this long
frail mantle
grim tusk
#suggestions-voting message also aint this one partially in?
Actually, now that i think about it. Why there isnt a partially implemented reaction?
distant gyro
that's kinda untrue
none of the "hote components" are reworked
because they are taken out of the recipe entirely
hote change is a byproduct of taking off a few items and stat changing the elementals
fossil finch
Aerostone when it's even better next update because of the speed thing
fossil finch
we know
grim tusk
@hollow shell aint the last sugg a bit too specific? At least the requires mech souls part?
hollow shell
I think that's the only piece of problematic specificity
The rest of it looks good
@olive orbit You don't need to mention a tier for it or what it should be crafted with
ancient shard
sunken seas ambeint objects is at 200!
hollow shell
Questionable Bloodworm suggestion
frozen hornet
Bloodworm spawns are buffed right
hollow shell
Material specification in the top line isnt needed
and yeah, rates are buffed next update
mighty knot
+spawns from start of post ml
tardy smelt
my suggestion looking good so far?
dapper coral
i disagree for the reason that iron is already renewable in the form of fishing crates
i think it's valid as a suggestion, though
crude geode
This being the resource sink for Wulfrum would be weird but nice
tardy smelt
yeah
it's been suggested before to make a resource sink for wulfrum
what would also be nice is if this station would be able to duplicate higher-value bars using a singular unit of said higher-value bar and a phletora of lower-value metals in its crafting recipe
so one Uelibloom bar + several misc lower-value metals = 2 Uelibloom bars
but I feel like that'd be too much for one suggestion
distant gyro
I think I prefer the Ozz method better by just making iron less relevant in most of the recipes and properly distribute it across the different PHM bars
big contrast
eternal escarp
tleast gold and plat appear sometimes
tardy smelt
yeah
hollow shell
Questionable Bloodworm suggestion
@tranquil basin Sorry, should have pinged for this.
ashen warren
I think it's an interesting concept tbh.
hollow shell
@ashen warren So, pistols from vanilla Terraria?
Weapons that Calamity gives autofire too?
hollow shell
I dislike the change to make them autofire, personally
ashen warren
wait it's not stupid?
hollow shell
Just turns them into machine guns, which ranger is already drowning in
ashen warren
yeh i was thinking that too
exotic stag
why not make them burst?
burst fire
we could use more burst fire guns
since i think the only vanilla burst fire is C.A.R.
ashen warren
it could also train you to click faster so you can wean off of autoclickers?
exotic stag
and does calamity add any other burst fire weapons?
hollow shell
Your suggestion could be rephrased a bit, because what you're describing is pretty much just a high fire rate weapon with no autofire
You could suggest that the vanilla pistols become fire-on-click again
ashen warren
that works too.
hollow shell
((also you need some stronger reasoning, all you have is that it's an "interesting concept"))
exotic stag
hey rover have you ever thought of adding like more burst fire weapons?
sleek turret
imo weapons such as Venus Magnum auto-swing on calamity should be revolvers like that PBG weapon
exotic stag
uhh so about burst fire weapons..
hollow shell
Yes swag I believe Calamity does add a few burst fire weapons
sleek turret
Lead Wizard and its normal version, Clock Gatlignum
exotic stag
the burst shotgun idea is good
but we can expand it to other things like burst fire bows or rocket launchers
grim tusk
Animosity is another good one
grim tusk
the burst shotgun idea is good
Dragon’s breath?
hollow shell
That's just a normal shotgun
exotic stag
like maybe having an upgrade to snowman cannon in which it fires 3 3 round bursts of homing snowmen
grim tusk
Iirc Astral bow is burst
ashen warren
does calamity have a weapon that's just a straight-up glock?
sleek turret
Burst fire bow(s?) alredy exist which is Astral Bow
ashen warren
they should do that
hollow shell
Swag why are you adamant about this
sleek turret
does calamity have a weapon that's just a straight-up glock?
Dodu's Handgun or something like that.
exotic stag
mostly cause its actually a good idea.
exotic stag
its not just like the casual repetitive: " heres an automatic gun or heres a shotgun or heres this pistol"
crude geode
Can’t wait to return to breaking my hand to use pistols
ashen warren
welp uh
gonna go play tmodloader with like 6 mods cause my computer has shit memory
hollow shell
hrm
fallow hedge
ehhh, at that point just make a small resource pack that simply replaces the default heart
hollow shell
This bg sugg is fine. It'll be a bluecheck I think but that's alright
eternal escarp
this is being suggested quite frequently recently it seems
grim tusk
And rejected as well
distant gyro
yeah
you'd think it'd help with weaker pcs
but it'd lag everyone including the people with stronger pcs
eternal escarp
i think a reason as to why this is bound to be rejected should be on the doc? still not sure what are the requirements to document freqsugg and stuff tho
fossil finch
it'd only really reduce screen clutter, not lag
dom has reworked the visuals on some weapons that used a lot of dusts, iirc?
that sure hopefully helps with this kind of issue
distant gyro
the requirement is that someone actually updates the doc
which in itself is a rare occurrence
eternal escarp
~~more doc admins when 😳 ~~
lethal oar
an upgrade to the moab would have to be like a bfb
and then if you're doing that then you'll have to add the zomg ddt and bad
ancient mirage
so can you just not refight it?
eternal escarp
also, sacrificing the guide with a voodoo doll only for him to come back makes no sense
from a gameplay standpoint, it does
it allows you to
-still use the guide
-refight WoF
-have an NPC for NPC related goals
besides
when you enter HM
you lose your sanity
thats enough
gray nebula
trureeeeeeee so trueee
kill the guide
make all bosses only be able to be defeated once as well
gray nebula
this would encourage playthrough variety and actual strategy since the player can't farm an infinite amount of times until they get the best armor and weapons possible
eternal escarp
obsidian cove
Wait so does that mean wof is only fightable once?
eternal escarp
according to their sugg it seems so
obsidian cove
Or you don’t need the guide to spawn him?
sleek wadi
Impossible elemental gauntlet lets gooooooooo
wooden wedge
you need the guide to spawn WoF
eternal escarp
yo do need it unless you have external mods
this sugg is really just "itd make sense" to the extreme tbh
obsidian cove
Well if this gets accepted then I would assume they would make the wof not need the guide
wooden wedge
it'd make sense IRL but like
this is a game
eternal escarp
yeah gameplay > "makes sense"
obsidian cove
Remove the mage class because magic doesn’t exist irl
wooden wedge
that and some people actually use the guide for recipes
iirc
a small amount of people but they probably exist
eternal escarp
it is the guide for a reason ye
the only thing that keeps terraria somewhat playable without a wiki
dont kill it
wooden wedge
@dusty hamlet can you explain why it makes no sense
eternal escarp
(and ig they should read from the top since this is a short convo anyways)
obsidian cove
Yeah unless you use recipe browser the games basically unplayable without guide
wooden wedge
"only for him to come back makes no sense"
then should all NPCs permanently die since them coming back after death makes no sense?
like skeletron
cobalt pewter
Guide is still mad important if you're new to the game or cal or any mods really
eternal escarp
Yeah unless you use recipe browser the games basically unplayable without guide
(i mean terraria is a wiki based game, but thats an issue in and of itself)
sleek wadi
The player themselves keeps coming back to life outta nowhere, I think spontaneous resurrection is the rule and not the exception
obsidian cove
I played through like 3/4 of pre hard mode without the wiki because I didn’t think it existed
gray nebula
I mean to be honest terraria isn't the worst
eternal escarp
The player themselves keeps coming back to life outta nowhere, I think spontaneo...
this is why hardcore is the correct playstyle and the rest should be deleted...........
obsidian cove
Also missed like 3/4 the bosses
gray nebula
a surprisingly large amount of bosses can be found naturally
eternal escarp
oh yeah absolutely, atleast it does great job at making wiki not a must
sleek wadi
Terraria makes sure that if you don't discover the bosses they'll discover you in vanilla
eternal escarp
atleast, to my eyes it does
gray nebula
KS spawns naturally, so does eoc, popping shadow orbs is kinda a weird thing to do without being told but it's plausible, QB larvae are easy to understand, old man is litterally there
WoF can spawn naturally if you fuck around in hell and kill an unfortunately placed voodoo demon etc
eternal escarp
its just that usually, the wiki helps the player know what to do and progress, without it they are prolly banished for eternal platinum mining until they get armor and ask themselves "what now" assuming they dont get an evil presence in the next night or so
sleek wadi
Everything that doesn't naturally spawn tends to stick out. Lihzarhd altar looks pretty important if it's your first time seeing it
gray nebula
compared to some calamity bosseq where its like "lmao just craft this obscure item" at least
obsidian cove
There are a couple that bosses I don’t think you could find in vanilla without a wiki
eternal escarp
(crab is practically a secret to non wiki/external help people ig)
gray nebula
besides Duke Fishron idk who
eternal escarp
QS, maybe?
gray nebula
nah
eternal escarp
all i can think of is DFish and QS
gray nebula
her crystal grows in the caves
sleek wadi
Drops a treasure bag, thats enough for me.
eternal escarp
hm
gray nebula
too bad ooa is very well integrated because there's litterally the barkeeper there to tell u abt it lole
anyways this isn't the topic
eternal escarp
LC isnt a boss then damn....
gray nebula
eternal escarp
byeah
pulsar marlin
Guys. I think PBG is the only hardmode boss who is locked after a boss
eternal escarp
behind Golem?
gray nebula
yea
eternal escarp
ML is behind LC
sleek wadi
PBG is one of the only 2 that have a hard boss lock yeah.
gray nebula
1 : Secret plans
2 : Doesn't even matter that much since I mean it's really just a side boss
eternal escarp
(and technically everything that isnt prehm is locked behind WoF excluding AS and levi)
sleek wadi
PBG being a side boss is what makes it being locked behind golem especially weird. You'd think the only bosses that would warrant a lock like that would be a major one
eternal escarp
i mean
a plague themed boss not using plague canisters to be summoned would also be quite wierd, i think
actually..
pulsar marlin
Or maybe the plagued enemies would spawn after WoF but rarely
sleek wadi
True which is why a couple of early PBG summon suggestions focused on stuff like finding abombination in jungle lab
gray nebula
i mean h,
idk why everything needs to be quirky and nonlinear tbh
like it can be nice but tryign to force everything to follow that is a bit ❓ like ok but why exactly
but anywyas
Secret plans
eternal escarp
ig because thats what calamity intends (or intended)
sleek wadi
BEcause calamity made an effort to make everything not linear and thus PBG ends up the odd one out here
eternal escarp
Secret plans
just tell us and we will shut up iirc.,.,.,.,,.,.,.,.,.,.,,.,..,.,.,,..,,..,.
🚎
gray nebula
sleek wadi
PBG wouldn't stick out like this if more stuff was locked behind other bosses like say, having deus locked behind aureus
pulsar marlin
Oh yeah...And Ravager exists....
eternal escarp
you can enter the temple by making the key iirc
and Bouhldors drop the blocks needed i think
pulsar marlin
He is just...Flesh Golem fought after Golem...but Bouhldors drops lihzarhd bricks so you can summon him before Golem
eternal escarp
the amount of times Cursed tried suggesting to move rav to post provi fully...
keen zealot
(i mean terraria is a wiki based game, but thats an issue in and of itself)
(only a wiki based game if you want to be told what's happening instead of finding it out for yourself )
fossil finch
Incredible suggestion
Another one: this applies to all npcs globally If they die
You also die irl if you die in game
dusty hamlet
<@!629033556789821451> can you explain why it makes no sense
well, you're sacrificing him for the beginning of hardmode, so he shouldn't come back
wooden wedge
you also sacrifice the old man to summon skeletron, why should he respawn as well?
you need the guide to re-fight the WoF
dusty hamlet
oh im stupid
hollow shell
you need the guide to re-fight the WoF
Yeah I was gonna say
This kinda implies that a new summon method for WoF must be created
wooden wedge
that and some people actually use the guide
fossil finch
Another one: this applies to all npcs globally If they die
should this happen because npcs "shouldn't come back"?
hollow shell
@ashen warren Two things
- Most people are going to be playing with vanilla textures, it's why Rogue Emblem looks the way it does too
- We cannot change Fearless Goldfish Warrior, the donor wanted it to look exactly how it looks
grim tusk
Is Cal texture pack actually official? (My guess is no)
gray nebula
not exazctly?
ashen warren
<@456226577798135808> Two things
1. Most people are going to be playing with van...
Ok
hollow shell
We don't show CTP textures on the wiki either because of its dubious officiality
(for areas where vanilla content is shown)
brisk bramble
Dont fix what aint broke
fossil finch
i mean
"not fixing what's not broken" also brings "not doing everything ever because no one complains"
brisk bramble
Oh
fossil finch
at the end of the day, people are gonna like changes even if they weren't needed and are gonna dislike changes even if they were needed
balance is good
brisk bramble
Balance, in all things
wooden wedge
@covert sigil this isn't a meme channel
hollow idol
ok but actual shroomite visage sprite sug: the outline color changed for vanilla shroomite in 1.4 and tml pulls sprites from 1.4, but shroom visage still uses the old outline color from 1.3
literally unplayable inconsistency
hollow shell
You know what?
You're right, I'll bring that up in dev
hollow idol
ashen warren
<:wedragud:704834472050425937>
Good enough
crude geode
Yeah
small plume
It's still eventually going to be relevant.
crude geode
in regards to future content
also
-The sugg kinda brushes aside the almost emblem level stats up if you’re wearing the matching armor set (something you’re already gonna be doing)
-Moon Lord’s summoning changes+ Luminite spawning naturally make it less of a bitch to farm next update, plus many recipes have luminite cost reduced #changelogs message
-All the lunar wings have better flight time than Seraph Tracers. You may run slower/be able to reach less heights (only for Nebula/Vortex), but that’s the trade off for better flight time and the bonuses for associating with the armor set.
Stardust in particular is the best one, as it gives you a max minion slot and 5% minion damage
@small plume
@hollow shell dyou know why this sugg was denied? #suggestions-voting message
hollow shell
Unfortunately there was not any verbal discussion about it
crude geode
"reduced tracer line wing flight time slightly"
"buffed all post-ml non-tracer wing flight times"
so yeah
also this
"445 - Having any type of wing accessory equipped will increase jump speed by 24%, this is on top of whatever jump speed the wings already gave. This was done because Frog Leg and other jump speed accessories can feel almost mandatory due to how slow some wings can feel."
small plume
"reduced tracer line wing flight time slightly"
"buffed all post-ml non-tracer w...
Hmm, that's good. I hope the exodus flight time is also fixed. It's probably lower due to the strange recipe placement.
covert sigil
how do you guys feel about the suggestion of the snow ruffian armor being added with leather?
Also I personally don't think being able to convert other ores into lead/iron really matters. I mean by the time you are at Plantera you pretty much have enough Iron to last you the rest of the PT.
Probably just not worth the time coding that in.
crude geode
I mean it would be nice to have a use for tin/copper and tungsten/silver
as well as a resource sink for wulfrum
fossil finch
oh this one's approved
some day
vocal grotto
If someone makes a sprite for it I'd more than happy to implement it
dapper coral
dom been on the suggestion grind iirc
tardy smelt
oh this one's approved
~~some day~~
Same here
fossil finch
that one is easier to properly introduce, we will hopefully see it in some next patch or 1.5.x if not in 1.5 itself, world feeling alive is GOD
storm gust
@delicate heath s' suggestion is lit fr
Add an Option to toggle On/Off Ally Projectiles
Absolutely useful in teamplay fights
display/gameplay/performance wise
eternal escarp
performance wise
this was proved wrong on several occasions iirc
fossil finch
(it's been denied anyways)
fossil finch
and into voting it goes
hollow shell
It's okay for a previously denied suggestion to end up in voting, people just usually delete it beforehand because of the unlikeliness
(tis a shame he couldn't edit out that last but about performance though)
delicate heath
to bad it wont help performance wise, was just a thought of me. But it would help new players that play with friends cause some fights can be confusing to see through all that is going on. Thanks for posting it inside the voting channel ^^
fossil finch
good ol' hitting enter too early (ironic it just happened to me)
hollow shell
(gonna assume they're adding a reason right now)
worldly sparrow
look idk how to go to new line on mobile
hollow shell
If Enter doesn't do it by default, then there's a Discord setting that should allow for it
grim tusk
Or return on Ios
eternal escarp
this bottom right button assuming you have a keyboard like mine on phone
worldly sparrow
for me there is no enter it’s just hashtag below backspace
eternal escarp
uhh
can you show us your phone keyboard?
sounds illogical to not have a button like that
worldly sparrow
dude this isn’t even my phone idk how to screenshot
hollow shell
True
fossil finch
copy paste
worldly sparrow
ok
eternal escarp
on every phone you screenshot by holding the home button and the turn on button on the side, afaik
byeah that works too
fossil finch
depends on phone.
ashen warren
for me there is no enter it’s just hashtag below backspace
press the “123” button then press “return”
hollow shell
on every phone you screenshot by holding the home button and the turn on button ...
My phone does not have that yeah, it can screenshot by pressing the power button and lower-volume button simultaneously (i.e. "clench" the phone)
Android
eternal escarp
huh
worldly sparrow
It’s just anticlimactic to just pick it up from some random chest in a lab, it would make sense to craft it with the muramasa and auric bars or smith. I just feel like it’s lame to pick it out of some random chest.
hollow shell
Do you know the reason why it's in that chest, Pusheen?
Did you read any of the logs that are found alongside it
worldly sparrow
no idk lore
ashen warren
bruh
hollow shell
It's a lore reason, yes
eternal escarp
its made by the person who owned the lab
so he kept it in the lab or smthn
yeah i dont remember
hollow shell
Yeah, it's his pride and joy, and one-of-a-kind
so it already exists and you can only find it
eternal escarp
its basically a lore integration that doesnt hurt gameplay
ashen warren
makes another world to have 2 murasamas hey shitass wanna see me dual-wield
worldly sparrow
the chest you find it in doesn’t even look that great, it could at least be on a pedestal
eternal escarp
(unless you do the funny easteregg to use it ahead of time byeah)
pedestal?
like, the enchanted sword shrine but pedestal sprite instead?
worldly sparrow
no like
ashen warren
i believe pusheen is suggesting to make the chest with the sword look more important than the other labs chests
fossil finch
i don't think draedon would go around pedestaling his thing like that
worldly sparrow
i believe pusheen is suggesting to make the chest with the sword look more impor...
EXACTLY
eternal escarp
draedon does whats efficient iirc, not what looks cool
grim tusk
Maybe change the sugg then
fossil finch
he does both
eternal escarp
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hollow shell
It could be neat to make it have a more grandiose container
fossil finch
anyways, even if draedon was amused by murasama, he doesn't care enough about it to take it with him
hollow shell
like a technological display case or pedestal
grim tusk
specially when it comes to killing things.
Or turns a harmless excavation machine into a tool of destruction
hollow shell
You could make that your suggestion instead.
fossil finch
Or turns a harmless excavation machine into a tool of destruction
a drill like destroyer isn't harmless by definition even if it's not meant as a weapon
eternal escarp
byeah uh, i guess it could be on a Mutant Statue kinda thing, where it holds the eternity toggle or whatever, i dont know what to call those other then "enchanted sword shrine-like" background objects
eternal escarp
thats longer then id like but sure
eternal escarp
okay fair enough ender
fossil finch
Murasama and its related log are poggers tbh
for once, it makes both us and draed question "HOW (is draed)"
kinda weaksauce reasoning, or, at least, wording
hollow shell
This suggestion is more valid yeah
fossil finch
i don't think the sugg should read like you're mad because of the random fact sword is on chest
hollow shell
Reasoning may be a bit overly emotional yeah
worldly sparrow
dude you don’t know how angry I am for every melee play through I’ve done
eternal escarp
angry that a sword is laying in a chest..?
eternal escarp
i mean
worldly sparrow
just angry about how anticlimactic picking up the weapon is