suggestions-discussion

[brisk bramble]

Rn he feels
Trivial

[fossil finch]

Because this

[eternal escarp]

glass cannon builds arent neccesarily nohit only anyways

and, SW wasnt stated to get anything new in the near future afaik

(and personally i think SW is perfectly fine)

[sleek turret]

you can totally use omega blue armor with quite a mix of both defensive and offensive loadouts and still do it good on DoG

[fossil finch]

I think sw got a better telegraph for the thunder attack in phase 2?

Or smt like that

Byeah i think no more changes are being made

[hollow shell]

@fathom maple Why would it be a "nice detail"?
You're prolly gonna need more reasoning than usual for this suggestion because Lava Slimes dropping lava is infamously annoying

Hellbridge perforation

[solid folio]

I really don't think that would add anything to the game

[sleek wadi]

Yeah you're gonna need some strong reasoning for this one

[solid folio]

Just makes the enemies slightly more annoying

[sleek wadi]

Either it does nothing because you're using planterboxes or it busts up your bridge even more than usual

[fathom maple]

They share a very similar naming (lava) but only one drops actual lava
Also I’ve personally never found lava dropping that annoying.

[sleek wadi]

I mean I GUESS you could make an argument for having lavabats drop lava to differentiate them from hellbats

It'd be better reason than "I just think its neat" but not enough to sell someone on the idea

[fathom maple]

Also lava bats are hardmode so no the bridge isn’t double messed until post mech

[sleek wadi]

It will be getting busted up for providence and signus though

[fathom maple]

By the time you’re at signus and prov you have lava walking

[sleek wadi]

Okay so if this doesn't end up having tangible impact, why bother?

[crude geode]

you're still gonna want platforms

[fathom maple]

You know what? You’ve put a good point

Yeah ima remove that suggestion it kinda sucked

[crude geode]

not all suggestions are winners

[fathom maple]

Yeah no

[tardy smelt]

maybe I do agree with that those two are too similar

but lava drops are by no means the way to go about that, far too big of a pest

[brisk bramble]

@hollow shell
Yo this is sent to most of the channels-

[hardy dock]

Interesting suggestion you got here

I’m in favor

[brisk bramble]

Sorry for the ping btw

[hardy dock]

It wasn’t a ping lol

[brisk bramble]

I mean Rover

[hardy dock]

@everyone pings are turned off for regular members

Oh lol

[eternal escarp]

tbf, relic of ruin is pretty much a close ranged weapon

and its a good one at that

[brisk bramble]

Was it broken before?

[eternal escarp]

broken? nah

its just good

[frozen hornet]

It's very good ye

[grim tusk]

Yes but now its just very good at where its supposed to be

[brisk bramble]

Noice

[fossil mural]

I'm honestly not a fan of it

[brisk bramble]

Hmm

[grim tusk]

Ok i did not expect the spectral veil sugg to get this many stars so fast

Passing even the momentum capacitator sugg that also asks a rework to buff the shit out of it make it viable

Does having the word “Buff” in the title maybe have a psychological effect to make people more likely to vote?

#suggestions-voting message a sugg for an Anahita summon item finally got approved

[keen zealot]

it's probably because more people know what the spectral veil is since it's just a rev drop from a boss most people fight

than the momentum capacitor, which despite doing a wiki-allowed rogue run super recently, I had never heard of until it was brought up

[grim tusk]

Thats why it needs a change

Old die was also never used until i nohitted Scal on defiled death it seems

And people figured out that it rigged dmg deviation

Other bandit stuff is never used sadly

Unless its busted

Like glove of recklessness and exhorter

Thats why i have been suggesting a lot of changes to bandit stuff, might do more soon™️

[grim tusk]

I should test this hypothesis

[fossil mural]

You'd need two near duplicate suggestions for a real test

To eliminate variables of the suggestions content being the influencing factor

[grim tusk]

I reposted my momentum capacitor sugg
But changed the title and some wording and spacing, idea is the same

[fossil mural]

I see

[whole sedge]

Words like "Buff" usually intrigue people more as it seems to make the game easier or more interesting while "Rework" is usually better than "Nerf"
Wording funnies pretty much

[grim tusk]

I removed the fact that its a repost but most people wont notice as neither they visit this channel or scroll more upwards in #suggestions-posting

[hollow shell]

@grim tusk Hasn't been long enough yet

s'only been 4 days, you gotta wait a week

[grim tusk]

Damn time has been feeling slow

[crude geode]

Was gonna say

[hollow shell]

I was thinkin the contrary
"Damn didn't he post this like yesterday?"

[crude geode]

it’s why nobody realizes 2021 is almost over

[grim tusk]

Imma check an older sugg of mine that could be reposted

[crude geode]

I meant same as you rover

[grim tusk]

Damn nothing that is a rework

[hardy dock]

Balance suggestions, especially post-ml, is pointless

Since everything is getting rebalanced anyway

[mighty knot]

@full thistle

[ancient shard]

POG!!1111!
#suggestions-voting message

[full thistle]

Yeah thanks sorry I deleted it

[hollow shell]

@lofty wedge What are some examples of melee getting improved speed?

I haven't noticed this

[lofty wedge]

ok

[grim tusk]

2 things
facetanking will die due to defense dmg so melee having the most defense wont matter much unless getting in close ranges for true melee
melee suffers in dmg department til very later where it has too much dmg
it is getting rebalanced next patch

[hollow shell]

(s'also strange that you're basing this off of the base game rather than Calamity gear)

[grim tusk]

also theres movespeed cap

no matter how much speed you get it will get stuck at 60%

until next patch where it will get risen to 200%

and the cap really hindered mobility builds that 1.4 vanilla straight up yeeted the cap

[lofty wedge]

Hmm

[grim tusk]

melee's defense is fine, giving it more will just worsen the facetanking problem there is now

[lofty wedge]

I guess melee was alot more op in my head thann it actually is

that was kind of a useless post

[grim tusk]

melee seriously underperforms until like Plant dies when it then begins to pick up pace and becomes utterly busted once post-DoG is reached

as you can either nuke bosses with your huge arsenal of weapons or tank the fuck out of everything which certain builds, or something in the middle while still doing extremely well

those problems are solved next patch though

[lofty wedge]

🤔

[brisk bramble]

I dont get the summoner rework thing

[grim tusk]

lemme give you an example using stuff from another game

currently minions is like spamming dart monkeys across the map

[brisk bramble]

Ah

so Lesser minions
That havemore dmg

kinda like that?

[grim tusk]

rework will make em wizard monkeys instead but you'll have less and will need less to have better offense allowing you to spend cash (or in this case accessory slots) on other stuff

[brisk bramble]

and this can also give summoners more combinations n stuff
instead of spamming the samem minion?

[grim tusk]

indeed

[brisk bramble]

Oooh

Will this Rework make Pole warper Powerful?

[grim tusk]

pole warper was retiered to pre-Yharon

[brisk bramble]

awww : (

[dapper coral]

(pole warpers are pretty viable in test last i checked)

[dim star]

#suggestions-voting message

[brisk bramble]

[full pivot]

i mean its only just over halfway done

[gray nebula]

awesome sugg

u could also mention the uh
. uhhh

the charred set summon

igneous exalatation

[runic helm]

fuel cell bundle

[grim tusk]

Borealis bomber and sentries

But other than that, good sugg

[crude geode]

Borealis Bomber is a magic weapon disguised as a summoner weapon

[fossil mural]

I like the suggestion. More stuff like what was mentioned and more stuff like borealis bomber would be dope

[stoic heath]

Hard agree on the more summoner secondary attacks, being stuck with golden gun all game long is pretty meh.

[grim tusk]

#suggestions-voting message so after messing around with Spectral Veil a bit more, it def needs a buff to its range but the invincibility it gives can be a get-out-of-jail-free-card at times rn. However if the bonus stealth aint triggered it does nothing but be worse NR

[brisk bramble]

What is that?

[vital sorrel]

If I recall didn't one of the updates a while back mention Summoners were getting a massive change anyway, like lowering the number of available slots from accessories and boosting damage to compensate? Kinda seems like a decent time then to consider the secondary attacks imo, unless that changed

[grim tusk]

thats next patch

[vital sorrel]

That's what I thought, then yeah seems like a good time to consider it then

[keen zealot]

but don't add too many secondary attacks, as they'll have to contend with whips eventually

possibly as soon as the end of this year

[grim tusk]

Whips will surely as hell get changed

[crude geode]

I mean

More variety isn’t bad

[grim tusk]

^

Opens new playstyles as possibilities

[crude geode]

Saying that too many secondary attacks will mean they have to “contend” with whips, is like saying too many guns will mean they have to contend with bows.

It’s just more variety in a class that severely lacks it.

[fossil finch]

Whips when they get destroyed completely (good)

[crude geode]

With the addition of point blank shots, whips have a bit more ground to stand on in calamity.

[fossil finch]

They're still ptty boosted

It's not about themselves i don't think they will like get removed or anything

They're just op af

[crude geode]

I mean.

Vanilla balancing
There’s your problem right there

[fossil finch]

Kaleidoscope is not "point blank" and the shit kills ml alone

Like obsidian armor whip only pt is legit viable

??????????????????

[crude geode]

Daedalus Stormbow is a weapon that is obtainable before any bosses are defeated in Hardmode, and carries to moon lord, and even with the nerfs it still reasonably can. Vanilla balancing has always been a train wreck.

Am I saying whips don’t deserve to be nerfed? No, they need to be balanced for calamity like everything in Journey’s End. But that’s normal for Calamity to (try to) do.

[fossil finch]

They need to be balanced in general*

But people will cry anyways because the balance was uncalled for or calamity always nerfs vanilla items or something right 🙃

[cobalt pewter]

I like how Cold Divinity is never mentioned in the sugg

[fossil mural]

whips, on their own, are mostly fine

its when you tack on obsidian armor

whip stacking

and whip special effects

that they get nutty

but like just running around with a jungle whip and not-obsidian armor wont do too much

[grim tusk]

Kaleidoscope crits

[fossil mural]

whip special effects

[grim tusk]

Summons with crits in Cal would be op as fuck

[fossil mural]

isnt there an accessory to make minions crit or is that a different mod

probs a dif mod now that i think about it

[grim tusk]

Diff mod

Fargo’s souls spider enchant comes to mind

[fossil mural]

yeaaah thats probs what i was thinking of

[safe oasis]

does +crit affect the kaleidoscope minion crit chance

[grim tusk]

Iirc no, still busted as hell

[hollow shell]

You wanna ping em about that?

[cobalt pewter]

Nah, it's not really an urgent thing

But Cold Divinity does have a sort fo alternate attack mentioned

[hollow shell]

Indeed it does

One of the very few summon weps that have functionality on right-click that isn't targeting

I think that's significant enough to at least mention

@vital sorrel

[vital sorrel]

? Wait what?

You saying I should update the suggestion to mention Cold Divinity? I was just listing the first two examples the came to mind originally

I suppose mentioning right click functionality is pretty useful though. Guess I’ll add an edit

Added it. Apologies

I actually never used Cold Divinity in my original playthrough so I wasn’t aware of it’s right click

[hollow shell]

👍 Thanks

Yeah, just felt like it fit right in with the alt attack ideas you were talking about

so it's good to mention

[vital sorrel]

No worries

Was just confused at first is all

[brisk bramble]

Hmmm
Make zooming (with scoped weapons) give minor stat increase like crit and Dmg?

Im not sure if I should suggest putting it on sniper scope tho

[eternal escarp]

the biggest question would be

why?

[fossil mural]

To encourage the use of zoom

Most people actively dislike zoom

[still zodiac]

Well yeah because it feels like shit to use

[whole sedge]

The issue lies more of the Zoom's not that useful and usually hinders my ability to play more than help it as your screen size in terraria's already enough plus it's a third person 2d game

[eternal escarp]

no idea about you guys, i absolutely love the zoom

[dim star]

The zoom just disorients me

Some extra damage would totally make it useable

[keen zealot]

just like... why

[brisk bramble]

The zoom can be helpful if used properly

[keen zealot]

to give a lesser used feature purpose just by giving it a stat boost is not a good way to go about it

it will polarise the feature into being used by many, but liked by few

the reason no one uses zoom is because there are very few targets that exist that you can't already see on screen

and if you can't see them, you could just... get closer

but designing targets out of reach specifically for the scope would prevent literally any other playstyle from being able to interact

so would it not be better to just leave the zoom alone? not every single feature has to be objectively useful

[hollow shell]

@bright crag You should word it more like a suggestion than a statement
"Cirrus should congratulate..." or "Make Cirrus congratulate..."

etc

[bright crag]

Oh, ok

I can edit it now, right?

[hollow shell]

yeye

[bright crag]

Done

Thank you for pointing out!

[hollow shell]

👍

The suggestion could probably also use more reasoning to it

it's a little barebones atm

[bright crag]

Alright

I'll write something more elaborate here

I have another suggestion incoming too

[hollow shell]

Ah
Like an actual shrine, and not Terraria unique-item small-room chest shrines

Could be neat.

[bright crag]

Yes

Should I change it to something less... confusing?

[hollow shell]

Maybe, though I'm not sure what a better word to use would be

[bright crag]

Altar?

I'll put that

[hollow shell]

Yeah sure

[gray nebula]

no way ...

i cant believe i get my ideas stolen by suggesters

[bright crag]

Oh, you had that idea too?

I can remove that and let you suggest instead, if you want

[hollow shell]

No lol don't worry

Devs have a lot of crag ideas that're down the line

[bright crag]

Hmmm...

[hollow shell]

You can suggest whatever you want for the time being

[bright crag]

[brisk bramble]

Would giving zoom a minor dmg and crit boost
While also giving it a minor move speed reduction a good ides?

[hollow shell]

What?

Oh, this is from the convo before

[brisk bramble]

Yeah
Idk-

Should it be on scoped weapons
Or the sniper scope itself?

I mean what Nimta said is true
Just pasting stat boost and buffing it aint gonna make it useful

[eternal escarp]

i really just agree with this

its usefull to the people who find it usefull

giving it bonuses to glorify it isnt a good idea, and would likely be worse

[brisk bramble]

Yeah

[eternal escarp]

and in any case

i personally like the zoom regardless

[brisk bramble]

Might be a little prone to exploits too

[eternal escarp]

so there are people who like it

for what it is, that is

[brisk bramble]

I mean
There aint much to make ranger an interesting class
Besides PBS in the next update

[eternal escarp]

it doeant really need to be a special and unique one, ranger is pretty much the "normal" class

its fine by its own, in my eyes

[brisk bramble]

I didmt want it More unique
Just a bit more variety

[keen zealot]

how exactly would zoom add variety though?

[fossil mural]

PBS with that one gun that deals contact damage

unless thats on the excluded weapon list

[keen zealot]

zoom only adds possibilities at ranges greater than you can see

PBS is absolutely and utterly irrelevant here since that is the exact opposite end of the distance to target spectrum

[crude geode]

thinking up a suggestion about renaming Cosmilite and Cosmic Worm. DoG relates more to dimensions (at least from what I've seen) and not as much to space, at least not when compared to the entire Astral Biome and the literal manifestation of stars itself Astrum Deus. My only issue is lore wise, but that's also being reworked so 🤷

[hollow shell]

I feel like that'd be strange at this point
DoG and the word "cosmic" are so intertwined, even if not technically fitting

[crude geode]

maybe it's just a personal irk from overanalysis then, cuz it just feels weird that DoG relates so heavily to the cosmos

[vital sorrel]

To be fair Cursed Being, albeit not connected via direct definition… Space and Dimensional travel have become near inseparable in popular culture. Everything from worm holes to breaking light speed, and even still outer space/the cosmos is often used as a backdrop for dimensional travel in fiction.

So while the two aren’t connected in reality, the concepts themselves share enough of the same mind space in society that I think it still works on a fundamental level

[fossil finch]

-cosmic serpent.

[eternal escarp]

theres 2, and they likely are in the PBS list seeing as they dont have a wacky and zany thing to their name other then a small shortsword like hitbox

[hollow shell]

Reasoning is a bit minimal

But, I guess it's fine

(Had to fact check the source to make sure that was actually correct)

(It is. CosGuards only appear in P1 during Rev)

[golden narwhal]

Nice

[eternal escarp]

@steep vine check the pins of #calamity-update-talk , and for the future, you need correct formatting and a reason for your suggestions

[steep vine]

Oh, sorry

[eternal escarp]

(aka, you should prolly remove your suggestions since it cant pass anyways)

[steep vine]

Aw man, I was hoping it would at least get into voting

[eternal escarp]

the only things youll get to see are things in #changelogs and #calamity-update-talk pins

(and, if you are a patreon, you get bonus stuff)

[brisk bramble]

Are server suggestuons ok here?

[grim tusk]

Sure

Unless its asking for emotes/stickers

[brisk bramble]

Oh nvm

I just like seeing the dancing toxic cloud

Its groovy

[keen zealot]

I like this one

considering it kinda has corruption-y vibes

[sand ibex]

i didnt actually think about that

[brisk bramble]

Bella donna?

Yeah

[fossil mural]

I personally didn't find belladonna to be that strong

[sand ibex]

yeah it has corruption vibes

[fossil mural]

If I'm being honest

Maybe it was just me

[brisk bramble]

Its too strong to be Pre boss

[sand ibex]

its not that strong, it just lasts too long

honestly it struggles at pre-boss

[fossil mural]

But I ditched that thing long before skeletron

[brisk bramble]

Probably like
Post EoW ig?

[sand ibex]

kinda sucks at king slime, outclassed at desert scourge, struggles for eoc

[brisk bramble]

Orsmthin

[fossil mural]

And is there an issue with a weapon having a decent shelf life?

[sand ibex]

yeah

[fossil mural]

I like when weapons don't last for literally one boss

[brisk bramble]

It has super strong Sense

It can attack enemies off screen

[fossil mural]

It's one of my sorta issues with post moonlord

[sand ibex]

ok but it ruins variety

[fossil mural]

Everything lasts 1 boss

Then it's off to the new bigger number toys

Then kill a boss

[grim tusk]

Belladona is outclassed by feeder but other than that it needs a nerf, a retier is prob too much

[fossil mural]

Then trash that stuff and get new toys again

[grim tusk]

I’d reduce belladona’s attack speed

[fossil mural]

At least pre moonlord some stuff can last multiple bosses

[frozen hornet]

That should hopefully be addressed next update

[sand ibex]

the thing is belladonna isnt even that good at the pre-eoc stage

[brisk bramble]

How about its attack radius?

Cause damn
Its Radius is off screen

[grim tusk]

Then u get shark tooth necklace

[keen zealot]

how big is your screen

[keen zealot]

shark tooth you mean?

[brisk bramble]

Like
16 inch or smthin

[sand ibex]

i tested it for king slime and eoc because of wiki stuff and it wasnt that good

[keen zealot]

pixel resolution, not physical size

but if I had to guess based on size it's probably 1366x768

[brisk bramble]

Its 1900 x 1080 or smthin idk

[sand ibex]

belladonna's prime is eow-skeletron so a retier seems like the best choice

[keen zealot]

that's really small for a 1920x1080 display

you sure?

[brisk bramble]

Or was it 1600

I dont remember

Ill look it up tomorro

[fossil mural]

I just think a retier would suck

It would take away a pre boss option

[eternal escarp]

this really

thanks discord for not sending the message when intended

also

[fossil mural]

And it's not like it's instamelting eye of Cthulhu

[sand ibex]

yeah it sucks against eye of cthulhu

[eternal escarp]

Belladonna is good for KS and EoC tbh

[brisk bramble]

RoF can be a good nerf

But qlso its attack radius

[sand ibex]

it wasnt good for either of those

[eternal escarp]

when i used it, it was good for both of those

[sand ibex]

when i used it it wasnt.

[fossil mural]

I think frost blossom is probably the best preboss option for eye and ks

[eternal escarp]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[fossil mural]

Iirc

[keen zealot]

of which summoner has plenty

[crude geode]

jungle pre-boss
did you mean pain

[eternal escarp]

Frost blossom is 1 summon, and yeah its still good

[sand ibex]

yeah summoner has a lot of options pre boss for whatever reason

[eternal escarp]

you can rock a blossom and a belladonna just fine

[fossil mural]

What does summoner have? Frost blossom, wulfrum, belladonna

That's all that comes to mind

[keen zealot]

no not really tbh

[eternal escarp]

it litterally has the least out of all classes

[sand ibex]

frost blossom, sun spirit, slime staff, stormjaw, wulfrum

[eternal escarp]

do you want me to show the list?

[fossil mural]

Oh yeah slime staff but actually getting that is a lol

[sand ibex]

slime staff is craftable

[fossil mural]

Stormjaw I get

It is?

[eternal escarp]

moment

summoner has like, nothing

[keen zealot]

it also has the least overall, bit of a moot point

[sand ibex]

thats just melee being melee

[eternal escarp]

yeah, saying it has a lot means nothing

[fossil finch]

Ah yes let me just kill a pinky pre boss with my dream luck

[brisk bramble]

RED RYYYYYYDER

[fossil finch]

Ranger when it

Lol!

[sand ibex]

most of melee and ranger weapons are kinda bad

[brisk bramble]

Rusty Beacon

[keen zealot]

eight options for summoner is pretty damn good

[fossil finch]

What does "OV" mean

[eternal escarp]

OverHead

wrong reply

[keen zealot]

all of prehardmode in vanilla 1.3 doesn't have that much

[eternal escarp]

byeah

[fossil mural]

Squirrel staff is like an old man with dementia who also is blind and is also deaf and needs a wheelchair

[crude geode]

Wow a class having eight weapons on a tier?????? Absurd.

[keen zealot]

nah just summoner

[eternal escarp]

even rogue has almost double

[keen zealot]

eight would be underwhelming for any other class but summoner has historically few options in general

[brisk bramble]

Conch

[crude geode]

Conch isn’t pre boss

[eternal escarp]

its post DS

[sand ibex]

lets say post ds weapons which are viable instead

summoner has plenty

[eternal escarp]

theres litterally only 2

[sand ibex]

theres like 10

[eternal escarp]

(although yes they are viable)

[brisk bramble]

Yeag
I was about to say

[eternal escarp]

summoner??

[sand ibex]

yeah

[brisk bramble]

Conch as Some Wack AI

[eternal escarp]

theres only 2 summoner weapons post DS

[sand ibex]

post ds and pre boss

[eternal escarp]

in that case

[sand ibex]

all the weapons you'd use for eoc

[fossil mural]

Out of that preboss list aren't like the blossoms the only ones that can really hit eye

[sand ibex]

conch can too

[brisk bramble]

Wulfrum

[sand ibex]

if used properly

[eternal escarp]

Frost, Bella, Seabound, Sunspirit and Wulfrum if you are really lacking

[brisk bramble]

Ig?

[eternal escarp]

conch works if you know how to use it

[brisk bramble]

Conch AI kinda wack

[sand ibex]

conch works for eoc pretty wel

its ai being shit doesnt matter when eoc dashes

[fossil mural]

Wulfrum felt very bad for eye when I messed around as summoner

[sleek turret]

conch is designed for ground targets

[sand ibex]

conch works for eoc too dont underestimate it

[eternal escarp]

(conch is kindof one of the better ones)

[keen zealot]

reaver shark is unchanged by calamity so in theory hellstone is preboss still

[sleek turret]

but if you can use summon re-summon the conch a bunch of times then go ahead

[sand ibex]

you dont even need to resummon it for eoc lol

[sleek turret]

imp staff pre-boss

[eternal escarp]

i listed it with an # but many dont count them

[keen zealot]

don't see imp staff there

[eternal escarp]

in that case i missed it

[keen zealot]

or is that modded weapons only

[eternal escarp]

thanks for the headup

its mostly weapons that actually matter in the long run

aka not fucking wooden bow funny hahah

[keen zealot]

flinx staff is also missing

[sand ibex]

i'd say most classes have even less optoins

options

[crude geode]

Idk why you say belladonna is the best summon until skeletron when there’s other options avaliable that do better against diff. bosses, as well as just mixing in other things as summoner usually does.

[eternal escarp]

thats 1.4 so ill add it when 1.4 comes

[sleek turret]

the thing is that belladonna being the best summon until skeletron is because people min-max

[sand ibex]

stormjaw/slime for ds which is slightly better than belladonna, frost blossom/sun spirit for eoc, thats about it

[eternal escarp]

tbf even if bella is viable till skele
its not always the best one

insert vile feeders

[sleek turret]

vile feeders before the bugfix

[sand ibex]

never seen anyone use vile feeders ngl

[eternal escarp]

retiering bella would also require changing the summon itself
its supposed to be a jungle weapon, it has the same recipe as the pre-boss jungle stuff, and is nature by its core

[eternal escarp]

i do, and they are good

[grim tusk]

viable til Providence

[sleek turret]

they're good

[eternal escarp]

better then bella most of the time

[grim tusk]

They are amazing

[sand ibex]

probably because i never play corruption

[crude geode]

There’s gonna be a class with more weapons on a certain tier. Even if there is a perfectly equal amount of weapons, some are not gonna be considered viable/good. Most of the time it’s melee Bc funny ore weapons/melee bias.

[eternal escarp]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[grim tusk]

When they had the bug they were stupidly busted lmao

[eternal escarp]

ye

[brisk bramble]

Hella good

Once they latch on to an enemy

They wont let go

[eternal escarp]

byeah retiering bella would really just be wierd because youd need to change the entire summon design and shit at their core tbh

and while its good its not that good

[crude geode]

A nerf would be better.

[sand ibex]

why would you have to change the entire summon.?

[eternal escarp]

its a jungle summon
its themed around flowers and the jungle

and its recipe is all jungle like

[sand ibex]

i feel like a nerf would either make belladonna unviable or wouldnt change anything

[eternal escarp]

a nerf doesnt always mean it will be bad

you can nerf something while it still is good

[crude geode]

ah yes nerfs historically make things bad

[eternal escarp]

example, vile feeders lol

[sand ibex]

in this case specifically

[fossil mural]

I just don't think a retier would matter either, it's not a super strong win button summon pre boss

Albeit I never used it against skeletron specifically

[sand ibex]

from my experience belladonna is far better around the evil boss tier than it is preboss

[fossil mural]

But like it's pretty dookie at it's intended stage targets

[eternal escarp]

belladonna is great at preboss tier aswell

[sand ibex]

i just tested it and it wasnt very good

[eternal escarp]

one second

[crude geode]

Non-testers testing things is not generally liked.

[fossil mural]

It's nice for exploration but I didn't like it's performance against bosses

So I ended up ditching it for the blossom staves when I played summoner

[crude geode]

Not using updated information, proper setup considered by devs when balancing, etc.

[sand ibex]

why would i use updated information while trying out a weapon in its current state...

[eternal escarp]

because the thing you suggest will come in the very next update (if it passes that is(and get marked as "will be done for sure"))
when updated information exists

[crude geode]

It’s sorta like saying “buff stealth it’s bad” when there’s already a buffed stealth going on in testing

[eternal escarp]

^

[sand ibex]

so are rebalance suggestions pointless atm?

[crude geode]

You don’t know everything and you’re not expected to

[eternal escarp]

well, yes

technically they are

[sand ibex]

k ig i'll remove the suggestion

[crude geode]

Not all rebalance suggestions iirc, just that you need an actual tester to do them. (Also post ml ones are.)

[eternal escarp]

you could ask a dev if they are even going to be tested or changed

if they arent then the suggestion would be up to date technically

and then it wouldnt be pointless

[sand ibex]

belladonna is definitely getting changed somehow so meh

[crude geode]

@hollow shell Do you know if Belladonna is getting any changes next update?

[sick bane]

677 - Perf Hive projectiles go through blocks until they go near or past the point on the Y axis that the target player is on. - Done

[green token]

Hi

I feel like Biome blade needs a nerf, it was able to kill the wall of very quickly, making all the other pre hm weapons obsolete

[fossil finch]

You'd better provide actual kill times comparing it to other weapons, or you aren't going anywhere

[hollow shell]

I don't see anything concrete

The testers talked about it being difficult to balance with armor penetration, but I don't think any changes were made

[golden kayak]

May I post a suggestion for discussion here first?

Pre-posting.

[hollow shell]

Yeah

[golden kayak]

Unique fishing drops for Mushroom and Forest biomes.
<><><><><><><><>

As of now, fishing in Calamity is quite versatile - it allows to farm vatious materials through specific crates, has unique drops, and can increase catchrate of crates and potion material fish, allowing to get a lot of ore/money and rare fish in quite a short time.

Despite all of that, some biomes are still pretty much useless farming-wise (if we do not take quest fish into account).

I'd like to focus on Mushroom and Forest biomes in particular.

Currently Mushroom biome has no unique drops besides that one quest fish. Neither does Forest.

I would suggest:

For Forest: Making Stuffed fish drop unique to forest, increasing catchrate/making it possible to increase it further.

Example: If you do not stack fishing power without thinking and use Alluring bait (Increases chance to get material fish), Enchanted Pearl (Increases chance to get crates) and Crate potion not in combination, but aeparately, you get significantly more biome-specific drops, e. g. Prismite and Princess fish in surface Hallow using only Alluring bait (without Pearl and Crate potions).
In forest though, you only get bass. A lot of it.
Making stuffed fish more easily accessible would make farming plants unnecessary if you spend more time fishing instead.

For mushroom biome: A counterpart for the "normal" Stuffed fish - a consumable drop that gives Mushroom Seeds and and Glowing Mushrooms when consumed.
As of now, getting mushrooms can be a bit of a hassle, especially early on, but this addition would reward working on a pond in the biome early on by making Crabulon summons and tier 2 healing potions farmable more easily, and getting Shroomite bars later in the progression.

---

Here it is.

[hollow shell]

This all looks fine, though keep in mind that the top line of your suggestion needs to be its topic/summary, for the sake of bot formatting

[golden kayak]

I found a mistake, I'll fix and poat then.

[golden kayak]

After I make this as well.

[hollow shell]

Aight

[golden kayak]

Sorry for the ping.
Can you please check it out, did I forget anything?

[hollow shell]

That looks fine
(iunno what "Discussion topic here" is supposed to be though)

[golden kayak]

That was something I wanted to ask about in this channel.

As in, which of the 2 options is better.

I'll remove it.

[hollow shell]

👍

I personally think that it is fine for the Forest to lack unique fish, so that you have a location to fish whenever you want to catch the generic drops

but, that's just me

[golden kayak]

I caught 90% bass

But I see your point

[fossil finch]

yes clearly

[grim tusk]

@hollow shell spam/scam

[fossil finch]

good suggestion

a forum post

it's not an scam it's just spam

(unwanted publicity)

[hollow shell]

@ashen warren What are you doing?

[sleek turret]

ok what

its incredibly specific

like

what the fuck

[fossil finch]

technically yeah because it's

like 3 weapons i think

ig the sugg is like

"add these weapons"

but

lol!

[sleek turret]

3 weapons with specific stats and specific references and designs

Including sprites

[grim tusk]

so not only spam but also breaking all of the rules in suggestions lmao

[ashen warren]

okk

my wrong

[pastel cedar]

suggestion for the server: Make a channel for major changelogs, so people who haven't looked for a few months can see an overview instead of scrolling through the channel for 5-10 mins

[safe oasis]

draedon update FAQ tbh

pinned in #calamity-update-talk

[hollow shell]

Yeah

[keen zealot]

I'd much rather see a changelog that includes EVERY little change you make succinctly in different categories

[hollow shell]

That's what the wiki changelogs are, pretty much

They have intentionally limited visibility atm but they exist
1.5's is being written in tandem with development

This is already in the plans Frostygale but it's very true

[distant gyro]

it's actually one of the most popular suggestions that i know of

[old venture]

Wait seriously?

[distant gyro]

yeah

[old venture]

Ahhhh crap…

My bad :(

[distant gyro]

it's fine

[old venture]

Thought everybody wanted less grind

And I figured I was the weird one for wanting more

[hollow shell]

Well the solution to that is making it not be grind

We're gonna add exploration-based stuff

(once we're done with the Draedon update)

[distant gyro]

yeah, everyone acknowledges that pml is a boss rush with boss grinding attached

[old venture]

Ah…

[crude geode]

There also can be a balance between grind and boss fights.

[old venture]

Welp, now I feel dumb

[crude geode]

It’s chill

If you don’t look into discussions surrounding the mod you might not be aware of it

[old venture]

Hardmode felt really fun with ore-hunting, biome exploring, along with new weapons and armour. Post ML always felt like the ores and biomes just disappeared in exchange for even more weapons and armour.

Maybe I’ve been sticking to too many “casual” forums instead of the discord

[crude geode]

Hardmode byeah. Hopefully it won’t take too long after the Draedon update.

[old venture]

Ah yeah my bad, one sec lemme fix that (fixed)

[safe oasis]

i think that mining for uelibloom should at least be mentioned even if it doesn't really fix the issue

[warped coyote]

Not very fleshed out as an idea, but i would like the abyss to be a bit larger, and alter how the dungeon is made so that they both stay more seperated from each other.
Have a mount that lets you travel more easily in the upper depths (2-3), I thought it could be a submersible of some kind, obtainable in tier 2-3 of the acid rain, or craftable using luminite or higher, as that is what the diving suit is made of.
Possible functions could be lights that can be toggled instead of attacking and a radar to more easily see the creatures around you which alerts the bigger ones of your presence.
widen the biome space but constrict the tunnels and add dead ends, with more the lower you are. make it so that you can't see the walls of the biome when falling to the 4th layer.
I think it would help add an element of being trapped, the small corridors reducing the ease of movement and limiting dodging capabilities without dedicated excavation, and the descent I feel would benefit from not being able to cling to the walls for slowly making your way down, falling without much control is pretty frightening when you don't know what's awaiting you.
The scope I would prefer would need even larger worlds, maybe even a new size option, so that other biomes still have room to exist and immerse you as much as the abyss does.
Also in 1.4, maybe have a secret seed that is all abyss, but lower the layer depth requirements to make it playable and add a patch of all the biomes near the center so it feels like the map is now a small island between an immensly deep sea.

Not final or thought through as a possible implementation

[brisk bramble]

Ik its probably late but

[keen zealot]

wacky resolution

why have you lost 79 rows of pixels?

[brisk bramble]

idk

[keen zealot]

oh yeah and while you're there uhh

[keen zealot]

what're your UI Scale/Zoom settings

[brisk bramble]

Here are the settins

[keen zealot]

in the general tab

[hollow shell]

Nimta were you being sarcastic

[keen zealot]

nope

[hollow shell]

How is
How is 1900x1080 "really small"

[brisk bramble]

Here

[keen zealot]

16" is really small for a 1920x1080 display on desktop

[hollow shell]

Oh, that's the part you were referring to

[keen zealot]

you're probably gonna want both to be 100%

[brisk bramble]

We were talkin about how Belladonna's attack radius is so large that it goes off screen

[keen zealot]

yepp

[ashen warren]

It doesn't matter the physical size for the zoom

Everything will just be smaller

[keen zealot]

mhm

these are two loosely connected but ultimately unrelated points

[brisk bramble]

Yo

Does RBP really need a Buff?-

[distant gyro]

yes

[brisk bramble]

Ayt-

Would Irradiated early game bea bit op tho

[distant gyro]

it lasts 1 second

that's 10 damage

[brisk bramble]

Ohh

Hmm

Yeah
RBP can be buffed

[distant gyro]

and the beacon minion consumes 1 whole minion slot

[brisk bramble]

How about
It qttacks three times
Beforr Ramming itself to the enemy?

[distant gyro]

squirrel is ironically better

[brisk bramble]

Well
The squirrel attacks

[mighty knot]

@empty oyster good, just change the formatting to have a header and main body and maybe a bit more structured reasoning
(#suggestions-posting message)

[empty oyster]

@mighty knot I tried to make it a little more specific and structured, I hope its better than it was!

[hollow shell]

It looks fine, although you need a summary/topic as your top line, for the sake of bot formatting

[empty oyster]

Oh, alrighty! Thank you for the heads up!

[hollow shell]

👍

[crude geode]

@empty oyster Could mention that almost no other class regularly makes use of these weapons outside of ranger (fairly rarely) using golden gun for it's debuff. Rogue and Melee already have flasks, and Mage has their books and upgrades to easily apply these debuffs. Ranger is the only one who can't apply it for "free" as they have to use bullets/arrows.

[empty oyster]

Thats a super good idea, thank you thank you!

[crude geode]

np!

[ashen plover]

Ichor arrow?

[eternal escarp]

ichor arrows exist

if you wanted to suggest that

[ashen plover]

Yea

[eternal escarp]

ah, you meant to the above

[ashen plover]

Yea

[eternal escarp]

yeah theres arrows and bullets, all that ranger has

and maybe 1 or 2 specific weapons endgame

[ashen plover]

Ranger doesn’t really have use classless weapons for their debuffs since there is always an arrow or bullet (albeit it’s a pain to switch ammo during a boss fight)

[hollow shell]

It is a lil weird to say that flasks are free while ammos aren't

[eternal escarp]

it becomes less free later on ig, when youd prefer to use better ammo types like Hyperius or Elysian and Holy fire and bloodfire.. ect

tho you coukd switch ammo mid battle

[crude geode]

The main point of flasks is to give you something extra, and there’s no real flask advancement like there is with bullets/arrows. You never really get more flasks like you do new ammo types post ml. You just have ichor and cursed flames being the best Bc funny debuff, and then brimstone flames.

[fossil mural]

Eh, usually as melee you just have ichor flask at all times

Ranger has to switch ammo usually

Which is a pain in the rear end mid fight unless you use auto pause

Especially since ichor bullets / arrows aren't DPS monster ammo

At least when compared to most post moonlord ammos

[grim tusk]

Or use another weapon with the other ammo (say ur main weapon is megashark with crystal bullets, but you have hallowed repeater with ichor arrows as support)

[fossil mural]

That is an option, although at that point it's not really any different than just using a classless weapon to apply a debuff

It's just instead of using golden gun

You use (insert bow here)

And maybe get a little more damage out of it

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[eternal escarp]

also raiders glory exists so lol

[full pivot]

would suggesting vehemence to be classless be allowed

i read through the suggestion donts doc and there didn't seem to be anything about it

[fossil finch]

vehemence is getting reworked, iirc

also no thanks because uhhhh

calamitas=mage
calamitas=vehemence
and uhh
a=b a=c b=c ((i dont like the idea therefore im saying i dont like it))

[full pivot]

yes butits a bit unfair that killing currently one of the hardest bosses in the mod gives something that only one class can rlly use

[eternal escarp]

you do know

she gets more drops

right

like

SCal drops

[full pivot]

yeah but vehemence is the only garuanteed one

[eternal escarp]

id assume itll behave like the rest of her real drops in 1.5

gives something that only one class can rlly use
so this reason is pretty moot

[full pivot]

hm

ig

[dapper coral]

vehemence is going to be one of X weapons that scal will drop, next update
so it's already being addressed, ig

[runic wraith]

it's not like every single other boss in the game has drops for all classes and give you a random one that may or may not be for your class

[eternal escarp]

(DFolly and Brimstone dont have a weapon for every class)

(Nor KS, EoC, EoW, BoC do)

[fossil finch]

ks eoc eow and boc when they SUCK and give NOTHING but their accs

(Skelly boy has no drops but a mage weapon lol, but dungeon exists so ig that counts)

[eternal escarp]

but dungeon exists so ig that counts
doesnt count imo tbh, otherwise id count all charred ore, demonite from EoC and hellstone gear for EoW and BoC

byeah

[fossil finch]

then skelly too

and wof!

[eternal escarp]

ye

WoF actually has drops for all classes

[fossil finch]

well yeah, emblems

oh, and calamity ones

[eternal escarp]

weapons aswell

yes

[fossil finch]

(Thanks calamity)

[empty oyster]

Just adding "primaries" for summoner would fix the issue even more, but I feel like making a suggestion for more weapons would just be unfair and then the classless weapons would kind of lose their niche after pre-hardmode haha

[grim tusk]

Why do people always forget about sentry spammming (sentries in general even)

Oh and not even mentioned borealis bomber as an unconventional summoner weapon

However that sugg idea is pretty good

Minion targeting can be kinda weird at times

[brisk bramble]

What is Borealis Bomber again?-

[grim tusk]

However the best option i find for summoner as most classless weapons are debuffs would be using a sentry as a secondary, you use your classless/debuffing weapons (Everglade spray, Betsy’s Wrath, Ultra liquidator, Debuffing ammunition and melee/rogue weapons with flasks all solid non-classless picks to debuff), then use a sentry for the purpose of extra chip dmg and retargeting until the debuffs expire

[grim tusk]

Aureus summoner drop

Summons a minion kind of like Aureus spawns, these do not take minion slots

You can use em just like most sentries, spamming the fuck out of it

[brisk bramble]

Is it good or smthin?

[grim tusk]

Very

Iirc its the only summoner class wep that does not take summon slots

[brisk bramble]

...

Excusemewhat

so Its like a Ranged weapon

[grim tusk]

More like magic

[brisk bramble]

How ling can it hold

[grim tusk]

Up to like Cultist

[brisk bramble]

bruh

[brisk bramble]

[hollow shell]

@onyx socket Can you not

[fossil mural]

Borealis bomber is a mage weapon wearing a summoner trench coat lol

[grim tusk]

[fossil mural]

Isn't there also the ufo one

That doesn't take slots

And the UFOs shoot beams upwards

[grim tusk]

Midnight sun beacons do take slots

[fossil mural]

They do?

[grim tusk]

however their spawn animation can still be used when at full slots, just no minion

[fossil mural]

Thought I remember spamming them when doing multiplayer summoner

Ahh

Okay

[ancient shard]

[cobalt pewter]

Sentry spam shouldn't be viable

[safe oasis]

@static wolf improper formatting and also why

[zenith hazel]

^

please provide a reason and format properly

Title

(reason)

[obsidian cove]

That’s a dont as well

[hollow shell]

It is.

It's an example

[fossil finch]

lol

[hardy dock]

@static wolf why tf would you want the old sprites

And many items have received multiple resprites, how would that work

[fossil finch]

Make the mod x3 bigger by adding every single sprite every item, npc and tile ever had

[hardy dock]

[fossil finch]

(Also, people that "want old sprites more" in the 99% just have nostalgia)

[hardy dock]

This server has some weird suggestions sometimes

[fossil finch]

If you want it that badly, make a mod yourself ig

Well, you see

It's suggs

Self-explanatory

[hardy dock]

Yeah

[earnest cape]

no specific item suggestions, read the doc

[wintry wharf]

right, forgot about that

hold on

[fossil finch]

SIS lo!

[wintry wharf]

there

[fossil finch]

It's
It's still a sis

[grim tusk]

@hollow shell SIS

[wintry wharf]

how

[fossil finch]

And there's also no reasoning

It still states what it does, the recipe, the damage.

[wintry wharf]

'kay i'll try and simplify it

[gray nebula]

i agree

[wooden wedge]

please read the pinned suggs doc to know what's fine to post

[wintry wharf]

how's that

'kay i just read the doc a little bit

gotta make another minor edit

[gray nebula]

kinda weaksauce reasoning as well

should the minishark and megashark also get a summoner alt

[fossil finch]

It seemed like a good idea to let Summoners use a weapon that looks more like it's meant for summoners.

Uh, what? Swarmer behaves like wasp gun and bee gun, both magic weapons, there's no "summoner" part at all there???

[wintry wharf]

it just looks like a summoner weapon, specifically the way it's held in-game also doesn't quite make too much sense

haven't done a mage run in a while though so i don't entirely remember

[fossil finch]

It's a gun it's held like a gun

[wintry wharf]

i remember it holding the bee by the abdomen

eh

i'm bad at remembering things

[grim tusk]

Maybe just suggest swarmer upgrade instead

Summoner has PBG stuff for bee summons

[grim tusk]

And is an upgrade to those

[fossil finch]

Looking at the weapon's sprite, the gun itself doesn't seem to have anything for you to hold it, and the bee is carrying it, so it's only sensical you hold it by the abdomen if it's even like that in game

Even then, guns are simply held weird when they're big

[wintry wharf]

true

[fossil finch]

I still like how plague hive tells you you can kill ml with it and swarmer

[wintry wharf]

ikr

[grim tusk]

Needs more reasoning

[wintry wharf]

you just need it and then the swarmer and then suddenly the Moon Lord is now allergic to bees

[gray nebula]

why should it have an upgrade

[wintry wharf]

i'd post MY reason but it's stupid

[eternal escarp]

the reason falls off a lot considering 1.5's changes

(curve rebalancing)

besides, some weapon lines dont have to last an entire playthrough

look at Opal Striker for example

which, iirc doesnt evolve into anything magnificent

[gray nebula]

add a retroactive line to andromeda for no reason at all. then expand the line into a full class

reason : cool

[eternal escarp]

iban being straight to the point,..,,.,. dam,,..,.,.,.,.

[wintry wharf]

y'know what

forget i ever suggested anything today

[fossil finch]

Damn but the payoff is that

You have like

To sprite them all

.,.,.,

[eternal escarp]

dont forget that it would be cool!?!?!?!,,!,!,!

[wintry wharf]

i came up with an animated version of the swarmer earlier

it'd be good for my rejected summoner version

[eternal escarp]

looks cool tbh, but dunno if this is really the correct place to show it off ig

[wintry wharf]

i'll try reposting the summoner version idea with a better reason if that's fine on your end

[gray nebula]

also i mean

even if the suggestio nwas made valid uh

[grim tusk]

Summoner swarmer will never work if branded as such, you’d need to rebrand and resprite entirely

[gray nebula]

having the same weapon but a different class would be wack

were removing rogue/melee alts next udpate

[eternal escarp]

especially when that idea is being removed

ye

[wintry wharf]

interesting

hm...

[eternal escarp]

(the only cross class weapon left is a donator one iirc, the prismatic breaker)

[grim tusk]

And aether’s whisper

[gray nebula]

prismatic breaker isnt cross class

isnt it

[eternal escarp]

its like

both classes at one

[gray nebula]

i thought it just looked like a sword

[grim tusk]

1 click is sword another is gun

[eternal escarp]

iirc it deals both ranger and melee on both?

[wintry wharf]

welp my brain is dead now since i've got no options

[eternal escarp]

with an attack that is basically mage

its a wierd weapon thats for sure

[fossil mural]

On the note of summoner swarmer

Idk what mod it is , but I had a mod at one point that actually let you turn piranha gun and bee gun into summoner versions by like right clicking

[fossil finch]

Mutant mod iirc

Our souls

[fossil mural]

Which was an interesting idea, but also didn't really make much sense and just made the mage / ranger weapons deal summon damage

[fossil finch]

They were removed though because they fucking sucked

[fossil mural]

And yeah they kinda were cheeks

So I would imagine summoner swarmer would have a similar fate if it were to exist

As much as I want summoner to have more
..active.. options for attacking

Slapping summon damage on existing weapons ain't it

[novel belfry]

maybe if it was a summon weapon that summon those swarmer bees

[wintry wharf]

that was the idea i had before the reasoning was dumb and it was too specific [the fact that there could be only one]

[novel belfry]

i mean

the summons would look like your animated swarmer

the summon weapon would look different

[wintry wharf]

yeah

that was the idea

[prisma flicker]

#suggestions-discussion

[hollow shell]

Correct

[gray nebula]

Friday night funking emoji: Suggestion invalid

[hollow shell]

We do have 12 new summon weps and 2 new summon accessories already programmed for 1.5
and 5 more that are in the works

[fossil finch]

Isn't this also formatted like hell

It's full of errors and we are really picky and profesional here

Byeah i think this doesn't have proper formatting?

Idk, i'm on phone so not sure

It is then

[hollow shell]

It does have proper formatting although it is redundant, cuz
yeah we are indeed adding more

[fossil finch]

12, according to flagged suggs some of them are probably from bars, and 2 accs..
Sussy accs

[grim tusk]

probably post-ml

hopefully not +minion slots and rather get summons now do x

[fossil finch]

Mmm yes

Bad community when it's actually a

[grim tusk]

actually another summoner pre-hm accs wont be bad

[golden kayak]

What abt melee

[fossil finch]

Melee already has more swords than summoner weapons

some of this swords were/will be reworked to be more interesting iirc

[golden kayak]

I meant accs

Plain normal melee has the tooth i think

But vanilla compensates ig?

Feral claws are cool

[fossil finch]

melee doesn't need accs.,.,. Fuck melee.,.,., (tbf it has much more later on and stuff, summoner doesn't even in vanilla so ye)

[golden kayak]

Idk I play true melee i have THE MUSHROOM

Seeing summoner being worked on is cool tho

[keen zealot]

melee is good at using anything really

doesn't need anything of its own besides what it already has imo

and I speak as someone who primarily plays melee

[earnest cape]

@ornate breach calamity vanity already has it

[ornate breach]

oh ok \

i didn't know tha5r

[earnest cape]

now you do

[ornate breach]

ima delet my post

[earnest cape]

[ornate breach]

bro itsb an inchyworm

nvm

[grim tusk]

Is there a way to get opposite evil biome mimic stuff in Cal?

[hollow shell]

Plant some Evil Island blocks underground and let it spread, ig

[grim tusk]

Besides that

[fossil finch]

No, i think

[grim tusk]

:noted:

Actually i also have some ideas for making evil islands better

But that is for another suggestion

[brisk bramble]

How about using a Biome key on one of those evil islamds?

Maybe that would work

[grim tusk]

Its already used

Biome chest

[brisk bramble]

I see.

[grim tusk]

My idea is to have a mini version of the biomes rather than lots of ore and sandstone

Shadow/Crimson heart included

Probably just 1

And a small lake to get the other orb stuff

The island will be roughly 40% bigger

[fossil finch]

Epic idea:
Fargos both evils but calamity

[grim tusk]

Corruption having 2 chasms leading to a tunnel, one end with the orb and the other with shrine (to give access to opposite evil effigy), biome chest is on the middle. Theres also a third and smaller chasm with water for fishing purposes. Demonite ore is spread across the island

Crimson will lead to a large cavern with 3 ends, one being heart, another being biome chest and last one shrine. Theres also a bunch of water in the middle for fishing. Crimtane is spread across the island

ofc thats my concept, it'll have to be changed and simplified

[grim tusk]

has a resource sink for energy cores been suggested?

[vocal grotto]

Islands have already been changed based on a prior sugg, though it's mostly visual in nature and doesn't incorporate more direct stuff from the respective biomes, like the hearts/orbs

[grim tusk]

clouds would be fitting on a floating island

[vocal grotto]

Yeah, that's what the sugg in question mainly referred to. The island is now held up by actual clouds and isn't just stone/ore/house in the sky

[grim tusk]

a decorative purpose goes well along some practicality

[hollow shell]

No iirc, but I have personally brought that up in the dev server

You can suggest it too (tomorrow)

Ah, there was this sugg for Wulfrum as a whole #suggestions-voting message

[hollow shell]

This sugg is okay but the title could be clearer

[lapis canyon]

Is that better?

[hollow shell]

Yeah that's better

[ashen warren]

Wouldn't this be awkward if you were high up

[lapis canyon]

Deal with it

Besides can’t be that bad

Nobody goes to space level to kill anihita

[ashen warren]

Her spawning offscreen would be annoying though

[lapis canyon]

Old levi

[golden kayak]

For the evil biome to count you need 200 blocks of it, and I would assume that the island has enough sand for you to just transfer it underground make a 200 block rectangle and spawn mimics, or am I missing something?

I do agree that buying opposite evil orb stuff is kinda inconvenient though

[grim tusk]

What i proposed would be faster and more convenient

[hollow shell]

@deft river Don't.

[hollow shell]

We "rework" fishing?

[eternal escarp]

you added to fishing
ig thats what they mean?

[grim tusk]

expands would be better

[fossil finch]

calamity reworks fishing no way

[keen zealot]

would add more to grind for while fishing

yeah definitely not

never

[hollow shell]

@rancid saddle ^ Might wanna look over some of the wording in your sugg ("rework" too)

[rancid saddle]

I still have no idea what i tried to say

[keen zealot]

probably shouldn't suggest things if you have no idea what you want them to be

[eternal escarp]

dunno why you crossed that, youre pretty much right

[rancid saddle]

done

[hollow shell]

Yeah looks good

[keen zealot]

still don't really see how more fishing armour is needed since fishing for buffs is already pretty easy with only a rod and some bait, and there are loads of other mods that make it easier in numerous different ways

that is, why does calamity mod have to do this?

[sleek wadi]

I think calamity already makes fishing easy considering the all the multiline rods, desert scourge dropping everything you could ever want fishing related, and all the high quality bait.

[grim tusk]

Bot went to visit OG nohit bot in the graveyard @zenith hazel
(Hey at least i got to edit a sugg before it went into voting)

[zenith hazel]

notified amber

[zenith hazel]

sugg bot should be back up

we in this

[patent nimbus]

would it be a dumb idea to have auto-mod instantly delete any message that attempts to ping everyone to stop the scam bots?

[cyan lagoon]

it wouldn't be, no

[fossil mural]

Why are scam bots such a big thing now

I don't recall them being so common in large servers in the past but I see a couple across a few servers every day now

[distant gyro]

because scams don't care about people's feelings

also I guess key words like free and csgo can be flagged

[hollow shell]

We have a filter that automatically deletes messages with ru domain links

That catches... a good amount of them but not nearly all of them

Deleting all @everyone attempts could be a good idea

though we are in the process of transitioning our delete bot to a link whitelist, to prevent any unidentified websites from being posted

so, may be unneeded

[patent nimbus]

ok

[fossil mural]

Darn no more diskoorb dot com links???

(also the fake everyone ping is kinda funny when a troll tries it and instantly outs themselves as a troll so it'd be funny to keep around)

[patent nimbus]

i was gonna suggest just deleting them, not muting/banning them since some ppl make jokes like that

and since mods can see logs they can then use their own judgement to ban the scam bots

[fossil mural]

But now how will I discuss csgo and how it's a great awful free to play game in calamity mod discord???

[distant gyro]

true

[brisk bramble]

Another bot?

Damn.

[fossil finch]

Wow so funny

And original

And epic

Ok I'm not fucking

[sleek turret]

@north kelp Read the pinned document here.

[keen zealot]

mega flagged

[hollow shell]

This is what's called a "Specific Item Suggestion"

[fossil finch]

This is clearly a meme sugg anyways

[hollow shell]

These haven't been allowed for a while

[fossil finch]

(Doesn't save it from being unfunny and stupid)

[hollow shell]

(I don't really see what was so meme-y about it, Ender)

(But maybe I'm missing context)

[sleek turret]

^

[fossil finch]

Did you look at the like

Crit chance

[keen zealot]

the stats

99.99%

[fossil finch]

You can't tell me someone suggesting a weapon with 99.9% crit is serious

If they are, well

[hollow shell]

I can see it being genuine for an endgame weapon

but, doesn't matter

Wouldn't be allowed in any case

[sleek turret]

Its gone anyways

[grim tusk]

@hollow shell joke sugg

[obsidian cove]

@topaz geyser read the doc

[wooden wedge]

@topaz geyser no meme suggs please

[topaz geyser]

oh sorry i thought my idea was good

[hollow shell]

🙄

[west radish]

what was your idea

[grim tusk]

Joke boss sugg, move on

And a very shitty one

[topaz geyser]

wdym

thats not nice

[west radish]

i wanna know what it was

[hollow shell]

There was literally nothing to it, just overblown stats. Not even a name.

[topaz geyser]

oh ok

[west radish]

thats actually really good idea tho

[hollow shell]

Don't start, Astro

[west radish]

sorry

[topaz geyser]

Yeah, ASTRO.

[west radish]

Y E S

[vital sorrel]

Hmm question

I'm looking through the suggestion don't and I'm curious about the extent of the resprite rule. Can it be applied to requests for a new building material?

Or to be more specific

I was looking at using Gemspark blocks to alter the color of flowing water, and was wondering how viable a request would be to create alternate colored waterfall blocks and walls based around the gems, to allow for more varied designs

[hollow shell]

Why would that conflict with the resprite rule?

[vital sorrel]

Because technically it would be a re-spriting or rather a recoloring of the existing waterfall blocks and walls to various colors. A bit of semantics but I wanted to be sure

[hollow shell]

Nah nah dw
The resprite rule only applies if the suggestion is about a sprite being low quality. "Resprite Yharon because he looks outdated compared to the rest of the game."

Asking for new aesthetic blocks (even if they're similar to existing blocks) is totally fine

[vital sorrel]

Gotcha, i figured that's what it was but never hurts to double check.

And posted. Thank you for the clarification

[hollow shell]

👍

[gray nebula]

wait can't you just paint the blocks? or do they have some special properties that makes this not work