suggestions-discussion

[shut tide]

DoG

I've damaged DoG from like almost 700 tiles away

[hollow shell]

Don't the laser walls lock onto you anyway?
And DoG gets increased acceleration with distance

So you likely didn't stay that far away for too long hopefully

[shut tide]

tbh it would be hilarious if going into the mechanical cart during a boss fight in malice mode instantly killed you

[hollow shell]

The lasers travel slower than the cart so they fly back into your face and hurt you, like a cartoon

[shell drift]

or had the mechanical cart shoot lasers at you

[shut tide]

lmao that would be funny too

[river glen]

why post a not serious suggestions

that defeats the purpose of suggesting

they are supposed to benefit the mod

not turn it into memeing shit

[river glen]

huh, i didnt know that, i only thought it was speed if ur to fast he will go faster than u

[grim tusk]

Pretty much

Since more speed = you getting further away

Although it sometimes leads to funny stuff

[river glen]

i wonder what u mean by funny stuff

[grim tusk]

https://gyazo.com/290c20927a8b5d9add20b9c6884be054
NYOOOOM

[river glen]

lol

[grim tusk]

Deus also does this sometims

[hollow shell]

hey at least you dodged it

[river glen]

would destroyer do this to

[grim tusk]

That aint me but that happened to me on deus quite a bit (died a bunch)

I havent seen it do that

But maybe

[river glen]

this guy just went zooming

also, how is my suggestion

[grim tusk]

Uhhh?

I find oricalcum better than mythil

it also rips through AS appart

And iirc its getting buffed so

[river glen]

it is, but it misses a lot

[grim tusk]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[river glen]

on smaller bosses

such as twins, cryogen, and calamitias

especially when they dash/move a lot

[grim tusk]

Why would you use oricalcum on Clone

But on twins and cryo its understandable

[river glen]

clone was just an example

a bad one

[earnest cape]

aren't hardmode ore armors already getting a rebalance with the changes anyway

[grim tusk]

Ye

[river glen]

they are getting progression changes

but what is stopping from me going for the far better palladium

or mythril

even with iframes issue fixed, it still suffers from missing a lot

[earnest cape]

with the progression change it's still getting rebalanced

[river glen]

never said they are getting balance changes

it just said they are being shifted to that position

[earnest cape]

okay let me ask fabsol directly

[grim tusk]

For 1.5, the testers are going to go through every tier in the game and evaluate the balance of every weapon

currently early hm and post-Cultist (cuz imagine pillar and astral becoming meta after pre-Provi gets nerfed) and post-ML i've heard they are/have being/been balanced

[river glen]

well, maybe it was a bad suggestion

[earnest cape]

ye

[hollow shell]

I'm unsure

Some devs think that rebalancing the entire game is a terrible idea

But, yes we've shot down balance suggs before cuz of it, so

[grim tusk]

yea takes a lot of time

[river glen]

so should i remove it

[grim tusk]

probably

[hollow shell]

I assume the strength difference will get picked up on by the testers when the EarlyHM moves all happen

[grim tusk]

yea probably

but ranger and mhage still have Piky testers stuck

at least mhage's reign of dominance over the rest will be over

[river glen]

ive never found mage op because every weapon lagged the hell out of my pc

[crude geode]

idk why some people call mage mhage

[river glen]

[grim tusk]

its disgustinly overpowered for most of the game

[river glen]

seems like the wrong reply

[grim tusk]

SsV (rip), i've never lagged outside of lagstaff and SsV with mhage

[crude geode]

Idk really? Never felt that way to me at least.

[river glen]

hmm let me tell u how cryophobia lags my game

and then picture alpha ray

so suggestions that u can basicly do RN are suggestions that help the mod

[grim tusk]

We should prob move to #calamity-mod-talk for that

[grim tusk]

Or fix (not stats)

[river glen]

i was gonna make a suggestion about adding homing to petals

[grim tusk]

Could work

[river glen]

but.. now that its balancing season for the devs i thought maybe later

[grim tusk]

Stat shit is banned (like: buff Starfall by 30 dmg)

But like other stuff should be

[river glen]

eh, ill make it tomorrow

[crude geode]

How a weapon works is fine to be suggested about.

[river glen]

i have it posted in another server

its an armor

orichalcum is armor

[crude geode]

Same thing.

Does hell have a fountain?

[whole sedge]

I do not see why this is necessary when water doesn't exist in hell/crags and I'm pretty sure they don't even have "unique" water..?

[crude geode]

They do not in fact

Fountains are also you know

Water

Crags also doesn’t have a unique lava color iirc

[river glen]

rip

[earnest cape]

ye it only has a unique geyser color

[river glen]

maybe it can just be a red colour with lava textures?

idk

oh well

time to make the homing petal suggestion

[hollow shell]

Do you wanna edit your fountain sugg @river glen considering its not as clear cut as any other fountains?
No unique water or lava color in the Crag afaik

In fact I don't actually know what you expect this fountain to do

[river glen]

what do u mean

[hollow shell]

Does the crag have a unique water color?

So it would color water to look like lava?

[river glen]

maybe it will just work in the underworld

since making water look like lava but not actually being lava

[earnest cape]

but water evaporates in hell

[crude geode]

...but why though.

[hollow shell]

Indeed, water cannot exist in hell (for long)

[river glen]

lava fountain?

[hollow shell]

It could be a lava fountain.

First course of action would be actually tinting the lava in the crags naturally

[crude geode]

^
I think this should come before a fountain. to actually give the suggestion reasoning.

[full sentinel]

yeah i agree on that as well

[shell drift]

ice, snow, and other frozen water blocks are fine tho

[warm scarab]

you mean there is a disgustingly op armor that lasts up to scal

[frozen hornet]

Of course it's op if you're a no-hitter

[crude geode]

mfw judging things off of no-hit perspective

[hollow shell]

This sugg's fine

[vital condor]

yay

I must admit you inspired it with the earlier conversation about the fountain suggestion

[eternal escarp]

@lean orchid thats not really how you format a suggestion..

try looking at the pinned Document in this channel

and see other suggestions to get a view of how they should be written

[still zodiac]

Funny

[eternal escarp]

currently suggestion is lacking format and a reason prty much

and i think they just dingdongditched

[frail mantle]

Abyss doesn’t really need too much lore

Just a big hole with some fish in it

[frozen hornet]

We already have quite a bit of lore for the abyss,at least a lot more than a big deep hole in the ocean should have

Unless he meant abyss lore item

[frail mantle]

Abyss lore item would mean abyss boss

[eternal escarp]

just make it drop from a reaper shark tbh ngl iirc

[frozen hornet]

[rose latch]

lol wtf is this sugg

lore plz

[frozen hornet]

Lore's getting reworked anyways

[muted osprey]

I kinda want to make a sugg

remove wrath of the ancients entirely and replace it with light god's brilliance in the dance of light recipe

idk the people the items are dedicated to tho

[frail mantle]

Removing will probably never happen

[fossil finch]

Bruh

[frozen hornet]

Wrath of the ancients is that funny dungeon sentry right

I don't see why that'd be in DoL recipe so I agree with removing it from the recipe

[cobalt pewter]

@steep island what do you think?

Wait I'm an absolute dumbass

[cobalt pewter]

LGB and DoL's dedicatees aren't related to each other iirc

And aside from edge cases like PSA / PSC, dedicated items cannot use another dedicated item as part of their recipe

[muted osprey]

ok

[grim tusk]

Thats barely just scratching the surflace lmao, theres way more stuff other than brimflame (also who would use brimflame post-Plant other than nohitters with its paper defense, i asure you everyone else will prefer spectre’s survivability instead)

Have you seen how Piky reacted to the meta mhage weapons on Yharon tier during testing?

Or reaver mhage being too strong it had to be deleted

Again scratching surface and i wouldnt be talking about this if you didnt ping me DestroyerBoi

[pine star]

fortunately no

[grim tusk]

Abyss should prob get more love yes, but that belongs more in #lore-discussion or something not related to lore

[crude geode]

Abyss pretty much needs lore. That’s it. It has everything else it needs in spades, exploration and combat in three different parts of the game.

[grim tusk]

It just needs polishing which wouls be low priority

[crude geode]

Extremely low priority tbh, compared to uh

Mid-Late HM

[candid grove]

i never even went into the abyss until i went to get terminus lmao

[fossil finch]

Well you missed a lot of good weapons

[candid grove]

oh other than for tenebris and scoria

forgot about those lmao

[crude geode]

You can still avoid it mostly, Bc of funny ravager dropping every unique drop in existence

[cobalt pewter]

Or fishing

Fab did say Abyss is designed to not be mandatory, due to a lot of stuff from Abyss obtainable outside of it

Bruh crop

Byeah

[crude geode]

it’s nice

And pretty much the best biome currently

[sleek turret]

Even if you don't want to go to the abyss but want to get the loot, you can always fish for Abyssal Crates and get weapons, materials and other stuff you see normally on crates.

[fossil finch]

fishing

btw just reminded of bestiary's existence wonder how calamity's entries are

[frail mantle]

afaik the Calamity bestiary entries are done already

[fossil finch]

yes

[warm scarab]

reaver mage is viable on scal

[river glen]

u can go abyss fishing and get stuff that way

[river glen]

how

[warm scarab]

good question

[violet sierra]

this is one of the most hype things about the eventual 1.4

beastiary si gonna be great

[river glen]

calamitias beastiary

[grim tusk]

And get fucking oneshot trying to use it

Wait tenebris is fishable?

[rugged belfry]

#suggestions-voting message
I complained about this earlier. Thank you to whoever suggested this 👍

[uneven raven]

#suggestions-posting message

what do you guys think

[wooden wedge]

I think it needs a better reason than "it'd be awesome"

[uneven raven]

Cant think of any better reason

reason is still pretty good though

[wooden wedge]

Not really I'm pretty sure the reason breaks a sugg don't

[uneven raven]

aw frick

guess ill delete it

or not?

[worn salmon]

ngl would be nice

cal vanity vibe

[uneven raven]

:D

ill probably get warned for this, but for the waifus it will be done

[earnest cape]

no you won't

unless you do something that breaks the server's rules

[uneven raven]

If my post ever makes it to suggestions voting, is it fine to ask others to vote on it?

on the general channels

[earnest cape]

first of all your suggestion is marked as ❗, which means it has problems that needs to be fixed, in this case is having a reason that means "it'd be cool" which violates suggestion rules
second of all, advertising suggestions are also against rules

[uneven raven]

Thanks

[earnest cape]

you won't get warned for either unless you repeatedly do it after being told not to

[uneven raven]

Im trying to fix the exclamation point

[earnest cape]

to fix that add a valid reason about why your suggestion should be implemented etc

[uneven raven]

Yeah im trying to think of one

[earnest cape]

good luck

[uneven raven]

Okay I edited the post

[eternal escarp]

Because most of the items like these are mostly for the visual effects and not the support or combat effects,
im not sure if these accesories where ever made for vanity

im pretty sure their main purpose was and will be combat

[uneven raven]

Yes but players would rather keep an accessory that buffs their stats instead of a minion that just hits for a fraction of the amount of the damage they do.

[eternal escarp]

that doesnt mean the accesory isnt combat oriented

just means its overshadowed

thats a different thing entirely

[uneven raven]

Its a perspective kind of thing

from my point of view people would rather make those accessories for their visual effects

not cause they help in combat or anything

theres probably a niche

[ashen warren]

Just because you make them for the purpose of visual effects doesn't mean most people don't use them for their intended purpose

[crystal iron]

uh HotE is really useful, fungal cluymp as well

[eternal escarp]

their original purpose is still combat

[crude geode]

These aren’t dedicated items designed to look cool with combat effects being slapped on the side. It’s the inverse.

[eternal escarp]

yeah

[grim tusk]

Amalgam fungal clump in test version before nerf

[ashen warren]

Also most of the accs that summon minions are pretty good

[grim tusk]

Maybe fungal clump like light pet perhaps would be a more valid sugg but would break the “No SIS” rule

[uneven raven]

Ive tried them but they couldnt keep up with the amount of damage or heal i would do if i had one lifesteal accessory.

[cobalt pewter]

Ah yes

HotE

I'm not even gonna talk about it because it's just a big mess of stuff

[eternal escarp]

in that case it doesnt mean the item is vanity, just means the item isnt as great as you would expect

[ashen warren]

There's either something that's missing or you're testing them incorrectly.

also that still doesn't make them pets

[eternal escarp]

(also fungal clump uses Summoner damage so that might be why)

[cobalt pewter]

In any case you only really use HotE for jump speed (visibility off) or rare sand (visibility on)

The acc is pretty useless otherwise

[ashen warren]

unless you're summoner

[crude geode]

You joining the hote hate club I see feedzuh

[cobalt pewter]

Been there for a while

[grim tusk]

HotE vs Deus is amazing if summoner otherwise its

[eternal escarp]

anyways

[cobalt pewter]

But most of my focus had been on the materials

[uneven raven]

Well if it doesnt make it in that would be okay

Its 1 am where I am right now so goodnight or good morning to you guys

[grim tusk]

Afternoon

[crude geode]

Are you mentioning fuckin amidias’ trident

[river glen]

it was an example

[crude geode]

literally something that has no justification being in this suggestion or having homing

[eternal escarp]

arent those armors getting a rework anyways? or is it the counterparts?

[crude geode]

a pre-boss melee weapon that goes through walls, shoots a projectile, which homes

[river glen]

@eternal escarp its getting seperate iframes

[crude geode]

Melee my ass.

[river glen]

jesus christ

[cobalt pewter]

Ori won't be getting a major rework beyond separate i-frames

[pine star]

Its homing is quite a bit worse now iirc

[eternal escarp]

ah

[cobalt pewter]

But a homing on petals could be nice iirc

To make the petals a bit more reliable on anything but chonkers

[river glen]

I used Amidias' Trident as an example that it homes and it could have similar homing to Amidias' Trident

it dosent need to be spear of destiny homing

[crude geode]

Homing is changing next update anyways to be honest.

[eternal escarp]

i was aboutta say that

[candid grove]

how is amidias' trident pre boss

[crude geode]

Cnidrion

[river glen]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[eternal escarp]

actually

[river glen]

its post desert scourge

[crude geode]

Oh wait fuck brain

[eternal escarp]

giant clam doesnt spam post DS iirc yeah

wrong spear lol

byeah still

[river glen]

it was an example of a weapon that homes

ill use bee gun instead

since ur so fucking pissed at it

[ashen warren]

bee gun summons animals

[river glen]

idc

[cobalt pewter]

[eternal escarp]

i mean

you could just say

slight home

[crude geode]

^

[eternal escarp]

tbf

"slight homing capabilities" or whatever

[crude geode]

Specifying a weapon is going to be outdated in the dev team’s eyes, Bc of the changes to homing next update Anyways

[river glen]

i removed the weapon

i hope ur happy

[pine star]

Change "can" to "will"

[crude geode]

I’m not annoyed at you, I’m annoyed at Amidias’ Trident because it’s an “Incredibly Early Game AoTC” (aka fuck class identity and what it means.)

[pine star]

iirc the Amidias' Trident problem is being fixed

[river glen]

the game is being rebalanced

its gonna get shoved around

[pine star]

And so is AoTC, at least partially

[crude geode]

Seems like Ark of the Cosmo might not be moving, but I digress

Not heard anything about Amidias’ Trident moving in progression at all.

[eternal escarp]

also, it was said anything other then Post-ML (other then specific things) would prolly not get rebalanced this update iirc

just because of how big of a task it is and the fact the devs have alot on their list already

so amidias' trident is likely to stay in place currently

(and prolly for a long time anyway)

[crude geode]

and judging by the popularity of this suggestion, it’s gonna probably stay a class identity breaking dumpster fire for a while #suggestions-voting message

[pine star]

102/200

that sucks

[cobalt pewter]

Nohit

[eternal escarp]

yeah uh

also yharon is getting some changes in 1.5 iirc

[crude geode]

^
@tiny rain

[tiny rain]

What?

[crude geode]

Wrong reply

[tiny rain]

Nice.

[crude geode]

Balancing on No hits is generally regarded as horrific.

[tiny rain]

But like bro

[safe oasis]

tl;dr nohit opinions don't matter

[sleek turret]

balancing on no-hits is not good

[safe oasis]

:troll:

[tiny rain]

That dragon fireball attack

It is projectile spam

[safe oasis]

that is indeed what it is

[tiny rain]

Nohit or not it is projectile spam

Lemme change my suggestion a bit

[crude geode]

SCal’s bullet hell is also projectile spam.

[eternal escarp]

then the nohit part isnt needed for the sugg lol

[tiny rain]

Bcs I also fought him normally

Done

[safe oasis]

While the dragon fireball attack is cool that attack is just projectile spam, like how are you supposed to dodge projectile that rains down from the sky that comes in a massive quantity, cover a lot of horizontal space, and can explode as well
this sounds more like complaining than actual criticism

[grim tusk]

The fireball attack never was a problem for me in nohitting (even when i tried him shroomed)

[safe oasis]

i suggest rephrasing it entirely

[grim tusk]

Also yea is more of a complaint than a suggestion

[tiny rain]

Oh crap

[sleek turret]

the uhh, you mean the spiral fireball attack?

[tiny rain]

R&D Yharon?

No the one that goes up and down

[grim tusk]

Yes

Heck the ram/fishron clone pre 1.4.5 was harder to nohit lmao

[sleek turret]

because that thing is actually easy to do

[tiny rain]

Yeah I know

It was dash spam

Duke ai

[grim tusk]

Also lemme find some tips that i placed around here somewhere to make the bullet hells easier to dodge

#help-advice-read-pins message

There

[crude geode]

You talking about Detonating Flames, or Yharon’s Fireballs that explode into 3 shots each?

[tiny rain]

The 2nd one

Detonating flame is fine

[grim tusk]

To dodge those its essentially move away diagonally

And if you cant then dont move much to reduce the chances of one hitting you

[tiny rain]

But what if he does the attack around the middle in death mode?

That will cover a lot of spaces and could probably be very rng based

[grim tusk]

Same thing

[tiny rain]

Well I guess you have a solid point

[grim tusk]

Dash away or go downwards upwards not moving too much horizontaly

[tiny rain]

To me that is his most problematic atatack

And I think it has made me return to first phase many times

I guess I just suck

[grim tusk]

For me the ph1 flare ring bullet hell is the most problematic one, but seems like that one got tuned down by looking at Piky’s test vids

[grim tusk]

Practice is key

If you practice more and more you’ll eventually do the fight very efficiently

Yharon took me like 400 attempts to nohit on death defiled but revengeance when i didnt have as much skill took me like 2k

[tiny rain]

Ah yes that one is 2nd deadliest

Holy shit

Luckily it only took me 400

[safe oasis]

(prob not the place to talk about how to nohit something)

[grim tusk]

I was using is as kinda like a motivation to keep practicing so that he can do the fight better each time but ye

[crude geode]

This suggestion is probably gonna go the way of AoTC suggestions but I still felt it important to suggest

[tiny rain]

Well I mean it is always fine to suggest

[crude geode]

Indeed

[tiny rain]

Everyone has the right to voice his/her opinion

Even if some suggestions are a tad bit underwhelming

[grim tusk]

Iirc the trident only has homing after Skeletron

[candid grove]

what????

[cobalt pewter]

??????

That's confusing

[fossil finch]

i've never seen it homing i think

[safe oasis]

i've heard someone else say that too

but like never actually tested it

[cobalt pewter]

!wiki Amidias' Trident

[red storm]

https://calamitymod.fandom.com/wiki/Amidias'_Trident

[candid grove]

wiki doesnt say

[safe oasis]

someone on pc go test

[zenith hazel]

that's old trident

the one that was viable up till twins

[grim tusk]

Oh well havent touched pre-hm melee in long time

But yea old trident was

[crude geode]

I don’t touch melee in general
So you’re telling me the homing is gone off of it? (Except after Skeletron apparently but you’d be stupid to use it then tbfh)

[zenith hazel]

it does home

[grim tusk]

Wiki says it always homes

[zenith hazel]

ok wait

old trident only had a projectile after skeletron, not homing

[river glen]

LOOOOOL

[crude geode]

my brain hurts

[zenith hazel]

saying that it gains homing post-skele assumes that it had a projectile before that

which it didn't

current trident always has a projectile

and the projectile has always been able to home

got it?

[crude geode]

Got it

[river glen]

got it

[grim tusk]

Got it

[crude geode]

time to retype suggestion

[cobalt pewter]

Honestly having Amid Trident be somewhat of a true melee ver of Undine's / Divine Retribution sounds kinda nice

[crude geode]

Tbh it would be

[cobalt pewter]

So direct hits make the whirlpool emerge from offscreen, right under the player

[crude geode]

This suggestion isn’t gonna get to devs, but it would be nice

[hollow shell]

The whirlpool's homing got nerfed recently, right?

Still not good that it homes at all and I agree with the sugg

[crude geode]

It did, but the concept of a melee weapon with a homing projectile that’s available after one boss is kinda cringe to me.

At least AoTC has the decency to be end game before completely destroying class identity

[cobalt pewter]

Honestly I feel like broadswords and spears in phm should be mostly restricted to true melee

[hollow shell]

Another factor about it I noticed is that it shoots out projectiles more frequently than other proj melee weps around that tier, like Enchanted Sword
On top of the fact that its projectiles are much larger

[cobalt pewter]

Projectile melee do not have a major place in phm, there can be outliers like Enchanted Sword yes

But most phm melee should be oriented around direct hits / held projectiles imo

[crude geode]

agree, though I doubt others will

The fact that Night’s Edge, the final vanilla Pre-HM sword, doesn’t have projectiles should be a lesson.

[river glen]

should it have a cooldown when it spawns whirlpools

like it could be like a 5s cd

since its a very broken projectile

[pine star]

Maybe it spawns the projectile upon enemy hits?

[river glen]

dosent exactly make sense sicne ur gonna have a very strong true melee hit

since the projectile is gonna spawn from the weapon

[fossil finch]

of what really
Like, it is useless
It's mostly because of WoF's design, but that only shows how flawed was the game at trying to make the design of its bosses and true melee coexist

[crude geode]

the fact that pre-hm broadswords and spears shouldn’t be projectile spam.

[fossil finch]

they shouldn't maybe, not all of them

[crude geode]

There can be exceptions of course, as in enchanted sword

[fossil finch]

but again, night's edge is extremely useless because of that lack
same with dark lance, who at least has better range
while this does not apply to more early game weapons (which is the true scope of the sugg and all that) terraria design is just bad

[vital condor]

...starfury

[safe oasis]

what about it

[crude geode]

My point is that Amidias’ Trident is excessive. It’s not only a projectile, it’s a projectile with homing and wall piercing. Something not even given to any other pre-hm ranged or mage weapon, really. At least not within the same light year of tier.

[pine star]

yeah it's really excessive

[crude geode]

Storm Surge pierces through walls and provides light, but is post perfs/hive mind, compared to Amidias’ measly Desert Scourge.

[hollow shell]

And of course, doesn't home

[crude geode]

Yep

If you can name another (non-summoner/weird rogue) weapon in pre-hardmode that does as much as Amidias’ Trident, I’ll eat my sock, because I don’t think there is a weapon that comes close

[candid grove]

black anurian? that does quite a bit ig

[crude geode]

Doesn’t pierce through walls or provide light

[candid grove]

but it has le bubble

[sleek turret]

Abyssal Tome

Can go through blocks.

[candid grove]

doesnt home

[sleek turret]

But I think its fair at that point since its post-SG

[crude geode]

it’s also

Yknow

Belonging to a projectile class with funky mechanics, mage

[sleek turret]

yeah

mage

the funky class with funky proyectiles

[candid grove]

so it cant be summoner, rogue, or mage

thats the majority of the classes/??

[crude geode]

I banned summoner and rogue Bc I don’t know all the wacky stealth strikes, and summons can be summoned anywhere and attack enemies on their own.

but it’s a hypothetical

It’s pretty absurd that you have to go near the end of pre-hardmode to find good comparisons for Amidias’ Trident, meanwhile the on tier comparison of Coral Cannon is shoots big coral with big knockback that moves slow

[clever dagger]

enchanted axe

goes through walls, provides light, auto aims at nearby enemies

its not a funky stealth strike, its the normal attack

@crude geode

[grim tusk]

1- weird rogue

2- isnt it post-skele

[hollow shell]

That is post-Skele yeah

[clever dagger]

yes it is but he did say all of prehm

[crude geode]

^

[hollow shell]

But considering it's not a stealth strike I don't think it should be 'weird rogue'

thas just how it be

[grim tusk]

Some spam rogue weapons are weird, specially later in the game

[crude geode]

I was being extreme anyways

[clever dagger]

yeah i agree amidas trident is super funky for its tier

[grim tusk]

Yea kill trident

Or shift it tiers

[pine star]

eat your sock

[clever dagger]

yes

c o n s u m e s o c k

[hollow shell]

It would be better to make it more melee-ish anyway, even if it was made post-Skele or pre-WoF

Its current function is not the function of a melee weapon

[clever dagger]

tbh its current function seems more like a mage weap

[hollow shell]

mhm

[grim tusk]

Mhage is funky the whole game

[hollow shell]

It's like a precursor to Razorblade Typhoon

[grim tusk]

Melee gets funky as soon as plant dies

[hollow shell]

In fact, its more like Razorblade Typhoon than the actual arguable precursor to Razorblade Typhoon
https://calamitymod.fandom.com/wiki/Poseidon

[grim tusk]

Also yea its pre-hm melee razorblade typhoon

[hollow shell]

(actually nvm Razorblade can't go through blocks...
So Amidias Trident is stronger than Razorblade )

[crude geode]

Melee doing every other class better once again

[pine star]

:omegafailure:

[grim tusk]

So another op weapon bites the dust

[rugged belfry]

I wish that you would be given a buff when you had something like a Crimson Rod or Nimbus Rod cloud out, so you could turn it off entirely (instead of relocating it if it's distracting or you're not meaning to damage something, similar with minions).

[hollow shell]

The problem:
Summoner sentries do not have buffs.

[rugged belfry]

Couldn't you apply the same to sentries, so the player would also receive a buff to disable the sentry?

[hollow shell]

We could, but we should start with that before doin the cloud magic weps

[crude geode]

I mean...you always have the option of not using the weapon/sentry, or shoving it in a corner.

[hollow shell]

Well, maybe
There might be some difficulty in tying the buff to the sentry's existence

[rugged belfry]

You could, but it's much less of a hassle to click near your hotbar than physically relocate the sentry

[rugged belfry]

This is the other thing I was thinking; how would you go about doing it?

[crude geode]

Not that much imo? You just flick to the corner of your screen and right click lol

[rugged belfry]

Maybe you get the buff when you summon it, and lose it after how long the sentry lasts for (except that would probably be more inefficient)

[fossil finch]

paying attention to buffs is probably even harder for most people than simply, clicking again imo

[rugged belfry]

Here's another thought: you don't want the sentry spawned (maybe it's killing something you want alive, or maybe its just annoying), but you've put away the sentry weapon already. imo it's less of a hassle to click in the top of your screen than go back to the chest you put it in.

[crude geode]

who puts a sentry weapon in a chest

[fossil finch]

also, some people would probably complain it takes a buff slot in the first place
vanilla is really wacky with their usage and the fact they're capped makes it worse
While most people use lan's unlimited buff slots, it is still a valid complaint

also yeah

[crude geode]

after using it

[rugged belfry]

There could be scenarios when you do that.

[fossil finch]

if you just used a sentry-type weapon, you aren't putting it on a chest just after

that'd be extremely specific and mostly your fault
You are not even close to a chest 99% of cases you use a weapon anyways

[crude geode]

Keep in mind that altering vanilla code is sometimes absolute hell. Additionally, if the person can already solve the problem through fairly simple methods that they are not using...why add additional nonsense, instead of just using the methods avaliable.

[rugged belfry]

It's not necessarily "just used", you could've used it earlier.
But I guess it's just a matter of how lazy you are. It'd be easier to click away a buff, but more of a hassle to create.

[crude geode]

Buff slots are also a important note tbfh. Imagine punishing summoners even more for playing their class.

Summoners already have to deal with less slots than most other classes due to multiple minions eating up slots.

[rugged belfry]

It also doesn't necessarily have to be a buff slot, though

[fossil finch]

what's the other system you could use?

[rugged belfry]

I dunno, overall it's not a great idea.

Hotkeys possibly, but that's a hassle.

#suggestions-posting message
Normally, sure, why not, except for the fact that a lot of people use the social slot as a way to toggle the accessory off, maybe even to have it not appear.

[fossil finch]

bluecheck sugg incoming

[fallen plover]

ah its already been approved

ok i'll remove it then no point in suggesting again

[fossil finch]

what
no

i think

has it?

oh yeah it has

nvm then

[hollow shell]

(There's no problem with posting the same suggestion again, we account for that)

[eternal escarp]

@dire forum you need to format the sugg like the others, a title, line break and then a description with the reason

otherwise the sugg will just break the bot

[hollow shell]

That's better.

Just a quick informations though:
Heartreach potions work on Rare's healing orbs. They attract em.

[dire forum]

yea ive never posted before

but solid blocks still negate them tho

[eternal escarp]

is that a line break or spaces?

cant really see on ohone

[hollow shell]

It's a line break

Though there are excessive spaces too

[eternal escarp]

ah

so thats why its wierd on phone

[earnest cape]

rare... earth elemental? you mean rare sand elemental?

(in the title)

[ashen warren]

yea probably

[crude geode]

What do you mean you’ve never heard of rare earth elemental? You some kind of loser who doesn’t own one?
Yeah it should be changed

[earnest cape]

im a loser

[ashen warren]

agreed

[earnest cape]

[eternal escarp]

it was too rare for mis to find...

[hollow shell]

lol

[hollow shell]

Adamantine is getting buffed / new content next update

[distant gyro]

both ores also spawn in the next update

(if the "new hardmode progression" is on)

[fiery wadi]

well....

ok

lmaoo

[cobalt pewter]

Wait both will spawn?

[frozen hornet]

Yes

Lemme find the funne

[vital condor]

Issue I see is what if your inventory doesn't have enough space

@warm scarab

[frozen hornet]

Have it be like treasure bags and crates where they just spill out if your inventory is full

[vital condor]

For instance the devourer of gods bag can potentially drop 17 items

...this suggestion is ABOUT treasure bags and crates

namely making it so the items are never spawned in the world, and instead just appear in your inventory

[eternal escarp]

they always spill out, like already mentioned

you just pick them up instantly if you have space

[frozen hornet]

Huh0

My bad then

[vital condor]

but yeah. Certain treasure bags have a ludicrous number of unique items

[eternal escarp]

and yeah, that is an issue, if theres no space in your inv then will the items just delete?
unless its possible to code something to make the bags not open if you dont have space, then idk what solution there is

[vital condor]

but at that point, how much space do you reserve?

the maximum possibly needed? The average?

[crude geode]

A lot of grinding treasure bags for money is toned down tbfh next update.

Especially considering arma farm is dead

[cobalt pewter]

Yes

[crude geode]

Also if you’re worried about people taking items from crates and causing desync...just do it away from other people. @warm scarab

[warm scarab]

then it dros itens instead

[warm scarab]

problem is that doesn't helpo

i'm at the dungeon and my friend's at the ocean and i opened 20 stockade crates and 100 wood crates and when i went back to base i couldn't even open chests

nor can i put literally anything in magic storage

[warm scarab]

crates still exist

[muted osprey]

why is noone talking about AJ's sugg

[warm scarab]

and arma farming doesn't do that much

[warm scarab]

because yes

[crude geode]

people did.

[crude geode]

this was the start of the convo. very brief.

[muted osprey]

cool

[crude geode]

Did you seriously open 100 wooden crates not next to a npc or magic storage? That's kind of your fault if you're gonna complain about lag.

[warm scarab]

thing is i have the remote storage access that lets me put stuff inside the connected storage without having to be near it

and said storage access is an item

[crude geode]

If you open 100 crates at one time with no break, it's gonna be problematic.

[warm scarab]

ofc i opened them with breaks

or the items may despawn

because mp is wack

didn't expect the entire server to crash

i just opened like 30 crates and then put stuff inside storage and then repeat

and then i realized i'm not actually putting anything in storage and asked my friend what's going on

and he show me the crashlog

mmyes

and then i got yeeted

[eternal escarp]

in this case, whats different?

[crude geode]

30 is still a shit ton tbfh. I would like to ask though if this is a Calamity problem, or a Terraria Multiplayer problem.

[earnest cape]

then just don't open more than 10 crates at a time

[eternal escarp]

if it instantly places if you have the space, and the drops

its basically equivalent to just dropping and letting you instantly pick it up if you have the space, isnt it?

[warm scarab]

perhaps both

because cal adds bags

[warm scarab]

thing is, if you're on mp you don't instantly pick it up and instead the server need to sync the items first before letting you pick them up

which is what caused the desync and crash

[eternal escarp]

then in that case

its a MP issue

[warm scarab]

i guess

[eternal escarp]

since it happens when MP is a thing

[warm scarab]

time to yeet sugg

[eternal escarp]

not because calamity exists

[crude geode]

^

[eternal escarp]

the variable here is MP

so yeah

[crude geode]

@zenith hazel Is the most recent suggestion fine, considering the hardmode changes next update?

[eternal escarp]

the sugg is basically answered tbf

just in a diff way

(and only when the progression toggle is on byeah)

[crude geode]

(People are gonna bring that toggle up a lot I feel)

[eternal escarp]

(cant wait for "remove early HM changes" suggestions )

[zenith hazel]

don't think it's exactly necessary

[kindred sierra]

this already exists

[fading silo]

Yep

[earnest cape]

you're talking about another mod iirc

[fossil finch]

Yeah this sugg is uh
Not really needed considering hardmode changes
Also fishing but ig that was already discussed
insert the obligatory "get qol" argument

[earnest cape]

@burnt bough no joke suggestions

(read the "don'ts" doc pinned)

[cobalt pewter]

[zenith hazel]

deleted

[earnest cape]

thamk

[burnt bough]

worth a try

alr i wont do that agin

[earnest cape]

good

[burnt bough]

can i post suggestions about this discord, not about the mod?

[candid grove]

yes i think so

[earnest cape]

you can yeah

the difference between server suggs and mod suggs are.... that they're for the server and not the mod but besides that the star requirement is 140 instead of 200

this just sounds like a nuisance and unnecessary

like a lot bigger nuisance than what death gives

[wary canyon]

i can maybe see that being a thing post ML

[rugged belfry]

Makes sense.

[wary canyon]

cuz ofc all of the environment changes aren’t threatening at all by that point

[zenith hazel]

this has been suggested before

and somehow made it to dev

[distant gyro]

hardcore mode players getting randomly ko'd

[rugged belfry]

lol

[zenith hazel]

and then got downvoted to the fucking ground

[gray nebula]

fun

[distant gyro]

fun for the family

[rugged belfry]

Imagine spawning in and immediately getting clapped by DoG

[wary canyon]

well so much for that

[gray nebula]

and yeah it got the most amount of downvotes ever lmao

[rugged belfry]

How many?

[wary canyon]

dang

[gray nebula]

10 or so

[burnt bough]

so 10 devs voted against it?

[gray nebula]

and not a single one upvoted it, yes

[rugged belfry]

How many devs are there?

[burnt bough]

[gray nebula]

30 or so but not all of them vote

[zenith hazel]

some people just didn't vote for it

[gray nebula]

usually suggs get 5 votes or so

[earnest cape]

so what I'm getting is it's an okay suggestion(besides a small lack of reasoning ig) but won't even get through?

[zenith hazel]

there is no way we're doing that regardless

[gray nebula]

yea

[burnt bough]

[robust lava]

Surely that would just result in them flooding that channel instead?

[zenith hazel]

that's not why specific item suggestions were banned

they were banned because devs don't have the time to implement said items

[distant gyro]

(or are they good for that matter)

[zenith hazel]

I mean they also flooded the channel but the dev thing is the primary reason

yeah a lot of specific item suggs kinda sucked too

we're not allowing specific item suggestions again

[burnt bough]

whoops didnt mean to reply to a message

[river glen]

the dog should never randomly kill someone is a playthrough

and how would that happen

just insta kill at any moment

at any second

[candid grove]

wasnt the suggestion for the dog to randomly come and yoink an early game boss

not going for the player

[burnt bough]

ye, just the dog head coming out of a portal and killing you

[river glen]

i would use auto pause then

at every moment

[twilit warren]

sounds pretty cool but should only happen above ground, if the player doesnt have too much money and if there is no boss alive

[fossil finch]

no it doesn't
Hardcore players.

[candid grove]

dog shouldnt randomly spawn???? how is that cool at all???

[warm scarab]

mfw alt f4

[warm scarab]

if a boss randomly spawn just to one shot you

the boss is pointless

i mean the random spawn

you can just

kill the player in any other way

it doesn't make a difference to hardcore players

if they're dead they're dead

[river glen]

dog kills u while ur fighting dog

[rugged belfry]

DoG kills you while you're fighting King Slime

[burnt bough]

i updated the suggestion to account for that

[fossil finch]

y'know devs still literally talked about it above lmao

it won't get accepted if it somehow reach dev

but whatever ig

do your thing

also it fell in the "the idea is not that good so make it a config"

[gray nebula]

this suggestion isnt about calamity im p sure its like

bosschecklist or bosscursor or another mod

[fossil finch]

yeah iirc that's bosschecklist

[burnt bough]

oh my b

my ideas are terrible

[earnest cape]

happens

[mossy vapor]

what does the 👍 reaction in #suggestions-voting mean?

that it has been implemented?

[candid grove]

@burnt bough anahita drops those though im p sure

[cobalt pewter]

These 3 are dropped from Leviathan yes

[fossil finch]

they infact, do

[cobalt pewter]

Actually not sure about lava

[fossil finch]

also can you not bloat the sugg posting channel

[eternal escarp]

just means its approved

[cobalt pewter]

But def water and spong

[eternal escarp]

[burnt bough]

if the idea is wrong or bad, i just remove it

im not bloating it

[fossil finch]

that's a bad practice both for you and the people before you

[eternal escarp]

this

byeah

[burnt bough]

how so

[eternal escarp]

also lava doesnt drop from levi iirc

only water and sponge

[mossy vapor]

ahoki

[fossil finch]

it is bloating to post so many suggs without barely any time frame between there

pretty sure it's mentioned on the doc as a bad practice

[eternal escarp]

well

i think its logical that spewing out alot of suggestions isnt always a good thing
depending on how you do it

[gray nebula]

wtf ahoki

[mossy vapor]

hi Iban

[eternal escarp]

if you spam suggestion just for the sake of suggesting then its not the best of reasons

[mossy vapor]

basically ah + oki

[eternal escarp]

ah, oki
i thought youd be smarter iban 🙄

[burnt bough]

if i didnt delete the wrong/bad ones, then yes it would be spamming, but i am

so there isnt any real harm in it

[eternal escarp]

thats not the only way of spamming byeah

[eternal escarp]

.

[fossil finch]

• Posting more than 2 suggestions per day.
  Reason: Though this doesn't apply to most suggesters, some active users post suggestions with great frequency, to the point where it begins to make the channels unnecessarily busy and draw attention away from other suggestions indirectly. To keep the load more manageable and give other users a fairer shot at having their idea considered, please limit yourself to 2 suggestions per 24-hour period, and hold onto any additional ideas you may have during that period for posting at a later time.

[eternal escarp]

forcing suggestions out isnt great, which happaned like, 2 afaik from some people

[mossy vapor]

also my server suggestion has 140 stars now (even though it is now deeply buried in the #suggestions-voting channel ), how long would it take for the suggestion to be checked?

[eternal escarp]

thats only if they are left there prty sure

[fossil finch]

oh he just deleted them

yes it is

[eternal escarp]

whenever the mods checkmark it

[mossy vapor]

oki

hopefully they do find it, as I mentioned its buried deep beneath the channel xD

[rugged belfry]

One of my suggestions was added to the changelog a while back

Wow

I forgot about it lol

[eternal escarp]

prty sure its sent to their channel when it meets the requirement, and not when it gets checkmarked

so they will see it when it does afaik

[mossy vapor]

I see

[eternal escarp]

if it doesnt work like i think it does and they do need to scroll by there

then, well

theyd do it eventually

[fossil finch]

just wait yeah

[mossy vapor]

alrighy

Im surprised it even reached the requirement because by the time it had like 100 stars it was many scrolls away

looks like people like searching the channel h

[cobalt pewter]

Which one

[rugged belfry]

#suggestions-voting message

[cobalt pewter]

Ah

[ashen warren]

I like that idea, however to preserve the balance of Vanilla you'd need to make the Shroomite armor crafted with the Autohammer

[fossil finch]

he never stated the contrary but whatever

[ashen warren]

I know, it's an important detail though

[fossil finch]

he even states so in the sugg now that i look back at it

it's also an obvious detail..

[gusty geode]

Came in late but regarding that Holiday Moon sugg
If that's how it's gonna work the event may need some restructuring
Cuz remember the closer to the end you get the more it becomes exclusively mini-bosses spawning
So it'd get kinda boring as the lesser enemies gradually fade away and nothing's there to replace them and maintain the chaotic feel

[hardy dock]

Ok Ik I’m late but what in the goddamn hell is that dog suggestion

[ashen warren]

It's to make the game annoying

[hollow shell]

@burnt bough Would probably be more acceptable if DoG could attack you at random
Instead of a guaranteed death

[burnt bough]

true, but doesnt dog head 1 shot you in death mode at least?

[crystal iron]

if it isnt too much work they could get a slight ai adjustment at the last+ wave, like, maybe attack faster or smth

[hollow shell]

Nah that's getting changed next update

Just really high damage

[burnt bough]

the clorophyte armor sugg, i like that

[fading silo]

Am I allowed to suggest Plague Bringer Goliath wings for the plague set with no stats or bonuses? Cause that's kind of a specific item suggestion if I were to add stats and bonuses.

The set doesn't have any wings

I'm shocked that it doesn't.

[grim tusk]

Calamity's vanities adds one but thats unnoficial so maybe

[fading silo]

Like...yes it would take time to sprite, but as of right now there are no wings for the pbg set and the update hasn't been confirmed so it seems like there's a lot of time idk.

[grim tusk]

also which plague set

[fading silo]

Wait.

[dapper coral]

yea you can sugg that

[grim tusk]

plague reaper or plaguebringer

[brazen pier]

I suggested something similar a while back, and it entirely depends on which plague set you mean

[fading silo]

Pbg

[brazen pier]

Cause Plaguebringer is donator IIRC

[fading silo]

But that's vanity

right?

[grim tusk]

nope

summoner set

and op

[fading silo]

But it doesn't get a set of wings?

[grim tusk]

no

[fading silo]

Interesting.

[grim tusk]

i'd say its allowed but i doubt if its accepted

[brazen pier]

The donator set getting wings would kinda be editing the set as a whole, which I don't think is something they do for donator sets

[grim tusk]

and yea dont sugg for the donator one

[fading silo]

I'll make sure to specify

[grim tusk]

sugg for plague reaper

[fading silo]

Why is the donator one an actual armor set tho?

Like....what?

[grim tusk]

!wiki plaguebringer armor

[red storm]

https://calamitymod.fandom.com/wiki/Plaguebringer_armor

[grim tusk]

they paid

[dapper coral]

because that's what the donator wanted, lol

[fading silo]

I'm surprised that it was from a donator tho. You would think that this would be a non donator set cause it's actual armor

[brazen pier]

Ye there's no real rule about donator stuff being vanity

[grim tusk]

just dont mention plaguebringer set (summoner, post-PBG, and donator one), mention plague reaper (ranger, pre-PBG) in your sugg

[fading silo]

Will the wings apply to both sets tho?

[grim tusk]

perhaps

[river glen]

i like how the normality relocator is a donator item

how did it get i

[grim tusk]

depends in what you want

[grim tusk]

donator items being op moment

[river glen]

arent teleporting ones banned

[dapper coral]

normality relocator was the first and last of its kind

[river glen]

lol

[dapper coral]

it is because of normality relocator that the no-teleporting-items rule is in place, iirc

[fading silo]

I'll just suggest Plague Bringer Golaith Wings to apply to either the ranger or the donator tbh.

[brazen pier]

Normality relocators are an endangered species

[river glen]

yeah

[grim tusk]

or both, but focus on ranger one since the other is donator

[fading silo]

True

[dapper coral]

byeah you'll be better off suggesting for wings to apply to the ranger set

eah

[grim tusk]

also did the sugg to have Face melter have its EtG sfx got in?

[brazen pier]

(found the link to my old sugg about this if that's relevant)

[grim tusk]

#suggestions-voting message also 300 ⭐ s wtf

[fading silo]

I guess a lot of people love crabulon?

Did I do it right?

[grim tusk]

is the non-donator armor set from Plague Bringer Goliath

this is wrong

[fading silo]

Oh

[grim tusk]

and you should prob not mention it

do not mention donator stuff

Also the wings could apply to the donator armor
this one is ok

[fading silo]

Oh

[grim tusk]

set is the armor set from Plague Bringer Goliath

still wrong

made with plague cannisters, not dropped or made with infected plating

[fading silo]

But the plating is from pbg

[grim tusk]

yea but plague reaper uses cannisters

and doesnt use plating

just say its a post-Golem ranger armor

[fading silo]

oh ok

[grim tusk]

"is a" instead of is the

[fading silo]

Where?

[grim tusk]

and mentioning that should be the jetpacks is kinda specific

[grim tusk]

The Plague Reaper set is the armor set that is post-Golem armor

[fading silo]

Thanks

But what would the wings look like?

I never stated any stats or buffs so it's not a specific item suggestion

Well

Somewhat

[grim tusk]

just say it needs wings, you are still being too specific on what it would look like

[fading silo]

Ok.

[grim tusk]

just say "The wings could be the jets"

remove the "that Plague Bringer Goliath uses to fly with." part

[fading silo]

Got it.

[ashen finch]

Maybe PBG's wings directly?

cause like lowkey they DO look awesome

or well, its jetpack

[grim tusk]

they being pbg’s jetpack probably is being too specific

[fading silo]

I think just saying jets is enough to get the idea

It's not too specific, but it states what they could look like

[crude geode]

@burnt bough That sounds super frustrating from a gameplay standpoint. Imagine just playing the game or getting a boss down to low health and then just bam dead Bc haha funny lore.

[fossil finch]

lore which is already portrayed on the game on the first place

[burnt bough]

lore >>>>

[crude geode]

gameplay > lore

[fossil finch]

,.,

[fading silo]

Lore is interesting because after fighting the boss, you get a little backstory. How about instead of insta kill we just change it to a chance for natural spawn of DoG?

Cause you do need to prepare before fighting DoG

Like something is approaching, but it's more special?

[fossil finch]

holy fuck the second phase transition already references that specific thing
He's faking his death and reappearing later

death already does that afaik, anywho

[fading silo]

I know

That's why I mentioned it

[crude geode]

Lore should not take precedent over gameplay.

[fading silo]

True, but it can lead to some interesting interactions. But I can totally agree with gameplay > lore

The instakill thing is kind of overkill

[crude geode]

Dog instakilling you for lore reasons is not fun or enjoyable. It’s just annoying and frustrating. Even if you only put it on Deathmode, it only artificially inflates the difficulty of Deathmode by forcing you to restart doing things occasionally.

[fading silo]

I don't see how the lore saying that you're a target = insta kill tho?

[fossil finch]

the reasoning is flawed anyways because what's being tried to portray is already portrayed in game

[fading silo]

For example, when I suggested the polterghast dungeon. I didn't soley base my suggestion off of the lore. I suggested a dungeon prison that could act as an arena. But this suggestion about DoG is mainly lore based.

Doubt it will be implemented tho.

[crude geode]

If dog comes after you at any point before like post ml or even post provi, you’re basically dead because there’s no chance of you actually beating it.

[fading silo]

Pretty much. Even with dodging, you would be wasting your time fighting it in such an early stage of the game.

Also I doubt you would be fast enough to dodge it without any wings or high mobility

[fossil finch]

mfw

[crude geode]

@hollow shell You mentioned that there’s very very little chance of the DoG instakill sugg making it to dev. Should it even go into voting, considering the only reasoning is muh lore and funny deathmode?

[rugged belfry]

It would be cool to fly with the same jets PBG uses..

[hollow shell]

I didn't say that sequence of words, and we've let suggs like that into voting before

But it does still need to be edited

@burnt bough

to not just be insta-kill

[rugged belfry]

Imagine he doesn't even attack, just passes in the background

[hollow shell]

And expanding more on your reason would help

[fading silo]

May I suggest something or am I not in the position to suggest the edit?

[hollow shell]

You can.

[fading silo]

Ok.

So I know that this suggestion is lore based, but there is an alternative. Instead of DoG instakill anytime in game. How about after the three sentinels are killed, DoG can spawn naturally. If that would make this better.

It would make sense

The in-game lore. Not the wiki. States that you are a target. This is after all three sentinels are defeated for the first time.

[burnt bough]

put that in as a separate suggestion, its actually good and wont go thru if its in the place of mine

[fading silo]

I'd change or specify when DoG can spawn and get rid of the instakill. Even with the toggle, it can be confusing to just have DoG spawn at any point in the game

[hollow shell]

Indeed, I didn't even notice that Noodle had no specifications on when this would happen

implying it would happen throughout the whole game

which would be very weird

[burnt bough]

whats the ❗ for

[fading silo]

It means something is wrong/needs fixing.

[hollow shell]

Yeah it's to tell you to actually edit the suggestion please

[burnt bough]

ok, i clarified that it wouldnt instakill, and updated the spawn conditions

[river glen]

having a dog randomly come at u out of nowhere

seems like "i will do a bullshit move that will pretty much insta kill any new character"

[burnt bough]

updated spawn conditions as well

only after sentinels are killed

[fading silo]

You still need to specify in the explanation to help support your suggestion

[hollow shell]

hrm

[sleek turret]

hmm

that thing would make Hardcore players on Calamity be pmuch impossible unless its specified in the sugg

[burnt bough]

it is as well

its toggleable for that exact reason

[sleek turret]

and Mediumcore would be just "ugh DoG spawned right on my face, time to go get my things again."

[rugged belfry]

Softcore would be like "FUCK SHIT WHAT WAS THAT"
actually anyone would be like that now that I think about it

[fading silo]

Ok. So I start up a new world as a hardmode character. I'm just at my base and all of a sudden DoG teleports or goes through a portal and kills me and some of my npcs. henceforth ending the run or just ruining it

[burnt bough]

hardmode or hardcore

[fading silo]

Ok, but it's still bs-ish

[sleek turret]

if it was toggleable on the config people just straight go on the config just to dissable it because nobody likes unfair deaths

[fading silo]

I get the whole lore thing but that makes the gameplay a little based on rng and the next update is getting rid of it....iirc.

[rugged belfry]

or just make it an aesthetic thing where it pops up in the background here and there

maybe its killing someone else

[burnt bough]

wdym removing rng?

[sleek turret]

if it was visually on the background such as EoC on 1.4 travelling around night sky that'd be better

[fading silo]

I believe the next update is getting rid of item dodge rng. I might have confused it tho

[sleek turret]

but that's 1.4 terraria and tmod isn't updated to that.

[burnt bough]

its getting rid of reforge, but also dodge? feels bad i rely on that

[fading silo]

No

[sleek turret]

next update is removing common rng bullshit

[fading silo]

Oh

I guess I was kind of correct

[burnt bough]

sadge

[fading silo]

....I didn't know that. That's actually pretty cool.

[sleek turret]

thats actually good wdym

less rng problems

less tedious stuff to do

[fading silo]

Like the statis belt rng along with ninja gear

[sleek turret]

ye

that also includes drop rates

[burnt bough]

ok thats dumb

[fading silo]

Nah. It makes the grind less tedious

[burnt bough]

so how do they deal with rare drops

like 1% rev stuff

[sleek turret]

haha yes I like spending 2 hours infront of my pc just to grind x good item for my loadout haha yes

[fading silo]

Also post ml is getting reworked iirc.

The boss health jacking, right?

[sleek turret]

RIVs and Legendaries are getting transfered to Malice Mode exclusives anyways

[burnt bough]

riv?

[fading silo]

Rev i think.

[sleek turret]

Post-ML is getting reworked and balanced.

[fading silo]

Good

[sleek turret]

Rare Item Variants

[fading silo]

The grind for post ml stinks

[burnt bough]

what does malice even do

[burnt bough]

not really

[fading silo]

Rn it's just refight this boss to get this upgrade and most upgrades aren't available till draedon's forge crap.

[sleek turret]

ugh

go to #calamity-update-talk pinned messages

there should be a doc explaining everything for the next update

[agile bolt]

Calamities vanities has the goliath wings but ye, they are not in main mod

[frozen hornet]

Beelzeboosters

Really really fast for some reason

[tranquil perch]

@exotic ibex do you know about anti- lag mod

[exotic ibex]

no?

what do you mean

[tranquil perch]

It has a config to reduce the lifetime of dust/particles

[lunar sky]

Suggestion idea: add a cooldown for blood moons/mechboss spawns/stuff like that

Nothing big, just like a day or two in-between

Because there has been so many times where I’m trying to do something or prepare for mechbosses but I can’t because something happens literally every day

And it’s driving me mad