suggestions-discussion

[full sentinel]

Yep

[ashen warren]

and hes quite tricky tbh

[full sentinel]

He really is

[hollow shell]

Are you sure she doesn't drop them?

I'm looking in the source and she has the code to drop the ammos just like any other boss

@wet zinc Don't make suggestions based on upcoming content

[wet zinc]

ok

[warm scarab]

not for me

wait

lemmi test again

[hollow shell]

It's only on first kill, remember

[warm scarab]

ye that may be the problem

[wet zinc]

sorry, was just told to put it there

[warm scarab]

she drops em

nvm

[hollow shell]

aight

and smh imagine recommending someone to #suggestions-posting without understanding sugg criteria

[warm scarab]

[wet zinc]

I still want to suggest it, I just don't know where to now

[hollow shell]

Well you can talk about it informally

[cobalt pewter]

What is it again?

[hollow shell]

Material drop for the Exo mechs

[wet zinc]

just ping me again if my new suggestion might still contain possible spoilers

[hollow shell]

This is...

still not allowed

It is in fact the same exact suggestion

[wet zinc]

ok

well Idk what to do without giving too much away

[hollow shell]

It's not about spoilers

It's about the fact that you're making a suggestion about content coming in 1.5

[wet zinc]

ah now I got it

[hollow shell]

You're only allowed to make suggestions about the current version of the mod

Yeah

[wet zinc]

sorry, took me a minute to process things

[hollow shell]

It's okay 👍

[warm scarab]

"...and I want to be able to fight the Old Duke without having to complete a full acid rain"
how about changing it into smth like "and the only other way of spawning old duke is to complete acid rain fully, which is tedious. Making blood worms craftable will make old duke less annoying to summon"

@vale vale

[rose latch]

isn't it being changed so that bloodworms can spawn outside of rain next update

what's the point of a crafting recipe

[warm scarab]

they're still fucking rare

so fucking rare that you just can't find it with ultimate battler

[rose latch]

what

[safe oasis]

well truffle worms have a recipe and they spawn at the start of hardmode

[warm scarab]

yes

[rose latch]

I found like 4 in one acid rain

[safe oasis]

that logic doesn’t really work

[rose latch]

just use hunter potion

[warm scarab]

shut up cheater

[safe oasis]

that’s a whole acid rain

[warm scarab]

[safe oasis]

that’s pretty rare tbh

[warm scarab]

yes

[rose latch]

wait spawnrates are being buffed too

higher spawnrates when less exist

[ashen warren]

1 truffle worm and 15 blood orbs

for 1 blood worm ig

i am not suggesting it

[rose latch]

I'd say bloodstone would be better

to lock it behind providence

[safe oasis]

it starts spawning at ml though not providence

[rose latch]

wait what

really

oh next update

[rose latch]

yep just saw that

[safe oasis]

also spawn rate doubled if old duke hasn’t been defeated

which i guess kinda makes this suggestion null

not the same thing but solves the same problem

[rose latch]

doesn't amidas sell after it's dead anyway

[safe oasis]

but then what’s the point

if it’s already dead

[rose latch]

I mean you have a high spawnrate before it's dead

and then it's sold after

so you always have easy access to bloodworms

[safe oasis]

not related to the sugg tho

sugg is saying pre kill

post kill is another thing

[tawny garden]

this kinda invalidates the sugg imo

as the only reason in it is is that they're rare

but they won't be as rare in future

[safe oasis]

that doesn’t invalidate it

[safe oasis]

this does tho

[rose latch]

the thing is

[tawny garden]

in any case, stuff is being tweaked

[rose latch]

you're supposed to see how it plays out in future update

[tawny garden]

yeah

[rose latch]

and then suggest about it after it comes out

[warm scarab]

wait

it's no logner a post polter boss

[warm scarab]

[rose latch]

I think it's still balanced to be post polterghast

but non linear

like duke fishron

[frail mantle]

when you can fight it != when it's meant to be fought

you can fight Yharon as your first boss post-ML by farming Draconic Swarmers for feathers but that doesn't mean he's meant to be fought immediately after beating ML

[warm scarab]

yes

but od used to be locked behind polter

it's now not a post polter boss

but a post ml boss

like all other post ml bosses except scal

and drae

:thinkies:

[frail mantle]

yes that is indeed what change 295 for the 1.5.001 Calamity Mod update in the #changelogs channel in the Calamity Mod Discord means

he's still intended to be fought after beating Polter, you just can fight him pre-Polter in 1.5 if you feel like it

[warm scarab]

like pre mech fish, pre polter boomer shoudl be quite doable

[frail mantle]

with enough skill it will be yes

[warm scarab]

first of all you need to know how to abuse predictive dashes

but this is gettin off topic

[earnest cape]

@restive junco no meme suggestions

cease.

[warm scarab]

[restive junco]

@earnest cape understandable but can the suggestion stay there

[earnest cape]

No

[warm scarab]

no

[earnest cape]

read the "don'ts" doc pinned

[warm scarab]

meme suggestions are kill

[eternal escarp]

just @ tiki or smthn

[pulsar marlin]

[eternal escarp]

i have a hunch they aint gonna delete it

[earnest cape]

welp

@marble hazel mem sugg

[pulsar marlin]

The suggestion is gone

[restive junco]

the screenshot will live on forever

[earnest cape]

good

[pulsar marlin]

Yes

[marble hazel]

yah cuz i deleted it

@restive junco no meme suggestions please, this'll serve as your verbal warn

[restive junco]

uh oh

[pulsar marlin]

But the screenshot will still be here...Forever

;-;

[restive junco]

the legacy of obamium ore will live on forever

[warm scarab]

cease

[pulsar marlin]

Ight

[restive junco]

dotn do it

[pulsar marlin]

I had to do it...

Sorry

[restive junco]

and whys that?

i would like to discuss this

[earnest cape]

not the channel

move somewhere else

[restive junco]

imagine mini modding

[earnest cape]

[cobalt pewter]

@heady storm

[heady storm]

Can you stop already.

Have a warn, mute next.

[restive junco]

@heady storm whats the meme channel

[distant vault]

[eternal escarp]

there is no meme channel in this server

[restive junco]

can i suggest a meme channel?

[earnest cape]

No

memes are not allowed

[eternal escarp]

suggesting it will result in a 🚫 anyways

[restive junco]

in an alternate universe where memes are illegal

[earnest cape]

turn off reply pings

[heady storm]

Yeah just have a mute.

[earnest cape]

oofs

[distant vault]

rolled

[ashen warren]

arent blood worms purchasable?

[distant vault]

post duke

old duke

[cobalt pewter]

@earnest raptor God Slayer armor might get a new set bonus as an exchange for getting rid of the revive in 1.5

[eternal escarp]

prty sure it was confirmed to get that new setbonus?

[cobalt pewter]

Also just to note, 1.5 will also get rid of mage and summoner helmets of GS armor

[still zodiac]

ye basically all that ^

post-ML rebalance suggs aren't very needed atm

[cobalt pewter]

So far we only know Fab saying that it might get a super dash

But a new set bonus will happen regardless ye

[still zodiac]

i think it was confirmed by ozza byeah

point is, post-ML is getting rebalanced

[eternal escarp]

ye fair

[warm scarab]

[muted osprey]

nano bullets are gonna get that in 1.4 innit

[cobalt pewter]

Seems a lil convoluted for a sugg

And yes

Nano Bullets do that iirc

[warm scarab]

1.4...

[cobalt pewter]

Yes

Be patient

smh

In any case

Sugg seems a lot convoluted because it tries to cover a lot of items that have different solutions

[warm scarab]

how to fix

[cobalt pewter]

My solution is just to scribble notes for yourself, then post sugg about a single ammo at a time

[warm scarab]

no.

that

is going

to take so fking long

because 2 suggs limit

[safe oasis]

change bone arrows into exclusive ammunition for marrow, in return buffing marrow to make it usable
why would there be a whole arrow just for one bow

[earnest cape]

tbh

remove this whole paragraph

some ideas are, but not limited to:

• have arctic arrows inflict more debuffs
• make golden bullets spawn coins upon hitting an enemy inflicted with midas
• let nano bullets have crystal bullet's smart bounce
• give high velocity bullets armor penetration
• change bone arrows into exclusive ammunition for marrow, in return buffing marrow to make it usable
• buff the damage of cursed bullets to make it more powerful than ichor bullets(like cursed arrows vs ichor arrows)
• make chlorophyte arrows have very high velocity compared to other arrows(high velocity bullet counterpart)
• reduce the damage explosive bullets do to the player and make it not kill you when you take a hit from it with Armageddon on/not remove your adrenaline

you've already made your point and this just bloats the sugg imo

[rose latch]

same reason stynger, stake launcher and candy corn rifle have their own ammo?

[safe oasis]

those are unique though

marrow is literally just a bow

[rose latch]

stake launcher is literally just a repeater

[warm scarab]

it's useless anyways

[warm scarab]

yes

[cobalt pewter]

As I said earlier

[warm scarab]

that shoot it's own projectile

[warm scarab]

2 sugg limit

[cobalt pewter]

The sugg tries to cover too much and now it looks messy

[safe oasis]

but it has unique effects (more dmg against vampire)

[warm scarab]

marrow can have massive velocity

[cobalt pewter]

And now there are people who agreed on one thing, and disagreed on another

[warm scarab]

[cobalt pewter]

And that makes your sugg kinda confusing

[warm scarab]

LMAO

tru

[earnest cape]

?

[rose latch]

and phantasm has special effect (shoots phantom arrows) it should have its own ammo

[warm scarab]

[earnest cape]

the phantom arrows are additional arrows it shoots when hitting an enemy

it's not main arrows

[rose latch]

ok that was a bad example

[earnest cape]

anyway

[rose latch]

heavenly gale shoots laser beam looking shit

[earnest cape]

thoughts?

[rose latch]

should have laser ammo

I agree it's too long

[earnest cape]

we don't need ammo bloat

[rose latch]

if you want you could copy and paste that into a doc maybe

and link it

saying here are some suggestions

[safe oasis]

examples are epic star bait tho

:tro

[earnest cape]

shrug

[warm scarab]

my thought is i will do it

also

since you posted it here i can just copy it and paste in

[earnest cape]

fair

[warm scarab]

i wanna add this to the back of my sugg tbh

list of outstanding ammo: ichor arrow, jesters arrow, napalm arrow, ichor bullet, crystal bullet, chlorophyte bullet, terra bullet, acid round, hyperius bullet, luminite bullet, bloodflare bullet, holy fire bullet, vanquisher arrow, elysian arrow.
all of these ammunitions completely outclass other ammos at their stage of game, which is sad as there is quite a large numbers of ammo being obsolete.```

any thoughts

[earnest cape]

not dealing contact damage like crab and aureus until you attack it eh?

[frail mantle]

tbh i'm not really too sure why HM has contact damage in phase 1 in the first place

[earnest cape]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

so true melee peeps have a harder time

[cobalt pewter]

Because fuck you I guess

[tawny garden]

[ashen warren]

crab and hive mind should deal no damage or take no damage for around 2 seconds after spawning

i think aureus should also not deal damage

[safe oasis]

crab and aureus already don't

[frail mantle]

pretty sure crab and aureus don't deal contact damage until they get out of their... "passive" state, i guess?

[safe oasis]

bad thing is tesla/inferno pot counts as a hit so you get fucked anyway

[frail mantle]

crab has the short moment of neutrality before you attack him or he decides to attack yourself, and Aureus is always passive for a couple of seconds after teleporting

[earnest cape]

aureus is also passive when spawning until you attack him too

[frail mantle]

yeah

[cobalt pewter]

Big brain strats: drink the potions after the bosses start moving

[round ravine]

Boss Rush is bullshit, plz nerf.

[fossil finch]

ah yes high quality sugg of all high quality suggs

look here's how br works

you either use demonshade and vehemence or go fuck yourself at a 20 minute thing

[tawny garden]

[eternal escarp]

BR is getting balanced anyways in post-ML, but the time would prolly be the same tbf

[fossil finch]

ye
there's also the thing you don't want br to get shred but neither you want it to be longing

[round ravine]

I'd rather go fuck myself and end things at Surpreme Calamitas. I mean, that's honestly a much more satisfying ending than facing all of the bosses in their Death Mode forms in one perfect run. It's just bullshit!

[fossil finch]

not that perfect tbh

the only one that doesn't allow mistakes is funny dog head

and still, with vehemence and fabstaff you oneshot everyone basically ever lmao
basically the only viable build unless you want to make it long

and, still

[safe oasis]

wow

plagiarism

[crude geode]

Yes psychic this is partially in response to your suggestion, but it’s been rattling around in my head for a while.

Deus changes is the most notable one in my mind where I thought why doesn’t this just apply to all bosses?, but I’m certain there’s other examples.

[safe oasis]

nohit side of the argument should probably get removed tbh
devs have stated repeatedly that nohitting is never considered when balancing. maybe focus more on the "cheap hit forcing you to use a health pot right at the start" aspect

same thing but reworded basically

[crude geode]

Yeah understandable

Ty for reminding me why no hitters suck why you never mention no hitters in suggestions

[safe oasis]

should i just go ahead and delete mine since this exists or

since its kinda the same thing twice in a row

[crude geode]

If you wanna. Your suggestion is more about the spawning method and how it deals bullshit damage while mine is about boss spawning should have a small grace period to avoid bullshit damage

[safe oasis]

i like how you worded your sugg but my sugg has the video for added flair so idk

a little bit of both tbh

[crude geode]

You could reword it a tiny bit if you wanted, mostly at the end, describing how you might want it to spawn to avoid hitting you right off the bat

[safe oasis]

good now?

[crude geode]

Since that is the title of your suggestion afterall

Ah yeah I think that’s good if it isn’t good/up to snuff for some mod I assume I’ll get pinged while asleep

[cobalt pewter]

Because yes

[safe oasis]

this seems very obscure and overall not needed tbh

pretty sure you can connect the dots in your head without the tooltip outright telling you

[crude geode]

Couldn’t it just say “continuously lowers defense on hits” @cobalt pewter

[cobalt pewter]

The method I don't really care about

As long as it specified that continuous effect, I don't mind

[safe oasis]

thinking about it further, just gonna delete my sugg and post it later

[hollow shell]

@vale vale Just wanna make sure you saw the response to your suggestion
(please respond, this is the 3rd ping)

[tawny garden]

should their sugg have a ❗?

[hollow shell]

Maybe?
Their reason might get invalidated next update but not guaranteed, and their suggested method is not the upcoming solution so that's still fine

[tawny garden]

m

[hollow shell]

But I want them to at least acknowledge here that they know the spawnrates are getting boosted next update

(potentially dramatically, but again not guaranteed)

(I mean, the boost is definitely guaranteed)

(s'just the extent)

[grim tusk]

Sounds like it should get a ❗

Specially cuz he just left the sugg and left the chat

“Ding dong ditching” as its refered as in the Don’ts Doc

[hollow shell]

That in itself is not a ❗ offense, that's more a rule so that you can resolve your potential pre-existing ❗ offenses

(but I do, in fact, hate it)

[grim tusk]

Oh well it’ll prob get a 🚫 when someone spots it on #suggestions-voting

Or if it gets to dev chat

[whole sedge]

If it even hits that point

[inner lark]

Will the Hallowed rune ever get nerfed due to the use with entropy vigil

[still zodiac]

It was already nerfed

The stars have a cooldown

[vale vale]

nice

[hollow shell]

Took you long enough, the sugg already got auto-approved

But, ye
That is a coming change

[vale vale]

My bad, couldn't find the reply initially

[hollow shell]

It's okay, not a big deal

[safe oasis]

crag sugg™️ moment

[hollow shell]

This is fine

[hollow shell]

Prolly don't need to say "I mean thats the only real thing I can write". Sugg is fine otherwise

[grim tusk]

didnt it already happen?

also the #1 abuser of old hallowed rune was def stardust cells, DoG got utterly destroyed by em

[cosmic karma]

fixed it

[hollow shell]

👍

[grim tusk]

and entropy's vigil also was op in that update due to an oversight (viable til Polterghast )

[safe oasis]

isn’t deter breaker getting deleted

[grim tusk]

not that i know

[hollow shell]

uhhhhh

[grim tusk]

whats wrong?

[grim tusk]

oh well

time to delet

[safe oasis]

rip

[grim tusk]

actually imma edit it so that its another unrelated sug rather than waiting 8 mins

[hollow shell]

Good play

[grim tusk]

and I forgot what i was going to sugg

[muted osprey]

[grim tusk]

remebered when i deleted my sugg

[safe oasis]

the sugg was using up all your RAM

[muted osprey]

[grim tusk]

also maybe make the item sold by Amidias after they have been killed once, and/or dropped by ???

rather than craftable

[hollow shell]

byeah

A suggestion as old as time

[grim tusk]

indeed

#suggestions-posting message also isnt this going to be done already?

with the Omnidash

[safe oasis]

you should probably mention how hive mind and perfs have a similar spawn method and yet also have a manual spawn item

the dreaded consistency argument

[hollow shell]

True

@earnest raptor 1.5 spoilers: #calamity-update-talk message

This probably won't affect the suggestion too much, because those extra effects Trashbox is talking about are not guaranteed to change with the ||replacement of revive with dash||

I think the more notable aspect of this is that God Slayer is getting ||2 of its helmets removed||
#calamity-update-talk message

iunno if I even need to be spoiling these out but I'm doin it anyway

[grim tusk]

they are a month old and revealed in #changelogs these arent even spoilers anymore

[hollow shell]

Well iunno, some people may keep #changelogs and #calamity-update-talk muted

[grim tusk]

yea

[hollow shell]

🤷‍♀️

[grim tusk]

#calamity-update-talk is understandable cuz once a changelog is posted it implodes and becomes #calamity-mod-talk 2 on occasion

but the spoilers and news given there are juicy as fuck

[fossil finch]

changelogs are important for anyone on this place because we need to make sure suggs aren't sugging something already happening

[hollow shell]

Indeed

[grim tusk]

i like how the update is gonna turn everything on its head and we'll need to discover what is good and not and make new and even better strategies which some can be theorized now

Since charred ore is becoming pre-Brimmy, does this mean we could access blood orbs without killing her, get easy access to almost all potions (Zerg potion especially, no need for Slime God) (and fabsol’s vodka) then do funny min max with Cirrus...
Speedrun strat for 1.5

i wonder how this channel is gonna get flooded once the update drops

[sleek turret]

oh yeah I have seen that on speedrun server

the void server

[grim tusk]

yea its pretty innactive sadly

[sleek turret]

good thing or else we have to pin 10 docs explaining how each speedrun category works

[grim tusk]

the only semi-active channel is #scal-runs and everyone discusses the most optimal strat but no one attempts to actually do em

[cyan lagoon]

I think how luck dependent terraria is plays a role in that

If not one thing is in place it can break the run

Though then again people speedrun pokemon so maybe i'm just a big baby

[grim tusk]

yea theres so many thing that are heavily luck dependant

most runners i see play it safe

no funny min max, no brimflame armor, or other tactics that could easily shred bosses but almost force you to nohit
or some safer but rng ones like eidolon tablet or grinding draconic swarmers or blood orbs

but this convo belongs in #general-talk

[sleek turret]

yeah

[fossil finch]

I didn't have this problems in my current ot tbh

It was long yeah but not zany or anything

It was calming, even

[ashen finch]

Hey, @cosmic karma , to add onto your suggestion, Meld Blobs DO seem to have a reaction with the Astral Infection that makes them a lot more usable, creating Meld Constructs, so there is definitely a connection between Meld Blobs and the Astral Infection, so that connection SHOULD also extend to Astrum Deus dropping Meld Blobs, even though they aren't "true" celestial fragments.

[hollow shell]

You worded that very strangely but yes

Stardust + Meld Blob = Meld Construct

[cobalt pewter]

I'm still annoyed by Meld Blobs

It tries to be ✨ s p e c i a l ✨ yet it's inconsistent as shit

[warm scarab]

@grim tusk "to be summoner"

fix that

[shrewd furnace]

What is the reason the "The Sunken Sea trembles..." massage exists?

[safe oasis]

after doing what

[earnest cape]

DS

[safe oasis]

because it unlocks the sunken sea

[shrewd furnace]

it happens after killing the WoF

[earnest cape]

oh that's clam being buffed

[shrewd furnace]

its there to say the sunken sea got buffed in hardmode but thats a given

[earnest cape]

giant clam gains more health damage and a few attacks

[safe oasis]

and dropping epic gear

[safe oasis]

how is it a given

[eternal escarp]

and theres a bit more enemies in the sea

iirc

[shrewd furnace]

every biome gets buffed in hardmode

[eternal escarp]

ehhh

not to this extent id say

[earnest cape]

giant clam doesn't just get stats buffs

[eternal escarp]

sunken sea gets a big buff since giant clam, a pre-hm miniboss gets buffed to the tier

[safe oasis]

abyss doesn't iirc

[eternal escarp]

yeh its an entirely different AI

also abyss is gradual so you could argue it does? but it doesnt actually buff itself so yeah

[shrewd furnace]

still the fact that the world entered hardmode should be enough to let the player know to check the sunken sea

[eternal escarp]

eh

[earnest cape]

no

not really

[safe oasis]

it's usually not

70% of people don't even know giant clam gets buffed even with the message

[eternal escarp]

ill be honest in my first playthrough i had no idea the sunken sea got new drops until i googled

well case in point psy

[shrewd furnace]

even then its not important enough to have to have a message to tell you

[earnest cape]

players usually go to sunken sea after desert scourge to get sea prisms and kill giant clam to get amidias

[safe oasis]

[earnest cape]

and forget it even exists

[whole sedge]

70% of people don't even know giant clam exists

[hollow shell]

I think the message is good yes

because if it wasn't there then you'd have no indication that the Sunken Sea had anything special done to it

[earnest cape]

it tells the player "oh there's new more powerful gear you can get in this biome after defeating wof! let's go there!" or something like that

[hollow shell]

And I don't think everybody sweeps every single biome in the game after WoF just to make sure they get all the new stuff

They'd waste their time in the Dungeon and the Abyss if they tried that

[earnest cape]

yeh

[hollow shell]

Arguably Underworld too

[earnest cape]

people just go to underground crimson and hallowed for mech boss summons too

[safe oasis]

well you can't avoid going to the underworld in hardmode

[hollow shell]

true

[shrewd furnace]

is it ok if I suggest it?

[hollow shell]

It would be okay, yes

But people will disagree with you

[safe oasis]

it doesn't break any don'ts yeah

[earnest cape]

don't expect it to pass tho lul

[shrewd furnace]

thats a given

[whole sedge]

It's valid I just don't really see any point though as it's just one chat message

[safe oasis]

chat bloat

(as if modded wof doesnt do that already)

[earnest cape]

at least it's not fighting scal chat bloat

[shrewd furnace]

i could make it about other status messages but thats the only one i think is unnecessary

maybe the "The desert sand shifts intensely!" since its not that important

[hollow shell]

GSS isn't super major yeah but again

without the message there'd be no reason for you to check the desert

[shrewd furnace]

boss checklist makes people check the desert more than the status masage

[hollow shell]

Indeed but boss checklist isn't built into the game

[eternal escarp]

people without boss checklist wouldnt know GSS exists

[earnest cape]

GSS ?

[hollow shell]

Great Sand Shark

[eternal escarp]

Great Sand Shark

[earnest cape]

ah

[crude geode]

Isn’t there a message about a sandstorm happening right after DS is defeated

When you’re in the desert

[eternal escarp]

ye

[crude geode]

[eternal escarp]

prty sure

[hollow shell]

Yeah

[earnest cape]

pretty sure

[hollow shell]

Because Calamity makes it so there cannot be Pre-DS sandstorms

(in PreHM)

[shrewd furnace]

how do I make a header for the suggestion?

[earnest cape]

that's good

[hollow shell]

Hold Shift and press Enter

[earnest cape]

a summarization of your sugg

[hollow shell]

to create a line break

[shrewd furnace]

thanks

[hollow shell]

like

this

[eternal escarp]

i think messages in chat that explain in-world events that, on your own take ages to learn, is a great thing

[shrewd furnace]

test
test

[safe oasis]

i still think there should be an indicator for when a sandstorm starts

[hollow shell]

Indeed

#suggestions-voting message

Twas a good suggestion, got approved by the devs

[eternal escarp]

like how after calamitas it says something about the abyss, or how after plantera the dungeon is buffed (thats a vanilla thing, yes, but it still counts for the point)
these are places you wouldnt think to explore right after the boss you have just done, and this messages help direct you towards progression in a better way then just saying "after (boss) go do this"

[safe oasis]

oh, epic then

[earnest cape]

verifying hell

[safe oasis]

been meaning to ask, what's usually the reason a sugg gets approved but then never implemented

[winter cave]

crag sugg yes or no

[earnest cape]

depends

[hollow shell]

Your crag sugg is fine

[earnest cape]

oh im dumb

[hollow shell]

We will eventually rework the Brimstone Crags, it's on our schedule
However it is a future plan, won't happen for a few months or maybe over a year

So this is aight in the meantime

[winter cave]

very cool

[hollow shell]

We do not have a dedicated suggestion implementation system/team

Lots of suggs get shown to the devs and they say "yeah that's fine that's cool and good" and then more suggs come

And we continue working on whatever we're working on in our current priority list

[safe oasis]

ah so they just "oh that's cool yeah" and then forget?

[winter cave]

sugg squad when

[earnest cape]

sadg

[hollow shell]

We uhhh
We tried to make a more dedicated suggestion implementation system not too long ago
But it fell by the wayside

Draedon update took big priority and we forgot about that sugg system

Maybe they'll have more of a chance once the update is released and our schedule is freer

[safe oasis]

damn, why not have like a little to-do list of suggs that were approved

[hollow shell]

Yeah that's exactly what it was

[safe oasis]

oh ok, thanks for the insight mars rover

[shrewd furnace]

posted

[winter cave]

thbonk

[hollow shell]

This seems aight
But do you wanna mention any direct downsides to having the messages be present?

Aside from being superfluous?

Just them not being that useful could be fine as a reason but the more reasoning you can think of, the better

[shrewd furnace]

is it better now?

[hollow shell]

Yes that is better

Looks good 👍

[shrewd furnace]

thanks for the help

[hollow shell]

np

[safe oasis]

While this messages
"this" to "these"

[shrewd furnace]

fixed

[tawny garden]

I don't fully agree with the latest sugg
I don't really like that the game depends so much on the wiki, so having in-game hints is nice

Though it is true that some status messages are way more important than others

[rose latch]

since there are so many messages

some players just skip reading them

i did on my first playthrough of calamity

[eternal escarp]

the only time i felt like theres too many messages is after WoF and ML, and i just opened the chat to read them

[rose latch]

yeah

those 2 main bosses were the ones i skipped

if they give you the messages more gradually then it would be better

the thing is

next update more non linearity is being added

more bosses for each tier

like old duke is available post ml

[earnest cape]

always has been

[rose latch]

pre providence

[tawny garden]

🔫

Water gun

[earnest cape]

also talk about those stuff in #calamity-update-talk

or spoiler em

[safe oasis]

i don’t think that really applies to sugg discussion tbh

since people making suggs should know changelogs by now

[earnest cape]

still spoilers about the update

shrug

[tawny garden]

You should read changelogs before making a sugg, so yeah

[shrewd furnace]

@golden tulip you said in #calamity-update-talk that I didn't read the changelog, what exactly did I miss cause I have read it but I might not be remembering something

[golden tulip]

Hold on

[shrewd furnace]

I think you meant another suggestion then

cause mine is the latest but there was another one about blood worms

[golden tulip]

Yeah i was talking about the latest one in voting

[shrewd furnace]

oh sorry then

[eternal escarp]

he was notified about it quite a few times but he couldnt respond because of pisscord iirc

[golden tulip]

It just says "by @invalid-user" for 9/10 suggestions so i don't know

[tawny garden]

Oh

[eternal escarp]

and he wasnt notified for those pings i think

[tawny garden]

I thought he just ding dong ditched

That's sad

[tawny garden]

Mobile funny

[golden tulip]

[tawny garden]

Doesn't even go through the server member list to cache it

[golden tulip]

Ah alright

[tawny garden]

mmm

[golden tulip]

Is that what the blue checkmark means then? An already coming change?

[eternal escarp]

frequently suggested

[tawny garden]

No

[eternal escarp]

okay not exactly frequently suggested

byeah

[golden tulip]

Oh

Cool

[fossil finch]

What is even the point of this sugg

[earnest cape]

scroll up

[earnest cape]

@somber sparrow no.

[safe oasis]

he's posting this in every channel

[gray nebula]

what being unfunny does to a mf

[tawny garden]

@zenith hazel

[warm scarab]

tru, tru

[eternal escarp]

nothing important (or nothing that really matters for the suggestions point), but ranger has more variety then just guns and bows

and mage is...

well

mage

[crystal iron]

ye ik, but i cooldbt think of anything

[earnest cape]

@feedzuh

[crystal iron]

bows and guns is just teh first thing that popped to my head, and also, the main ranged weapons

[cobalt pewter]

mmmmmm m

There's a lot of run-on sentences in the sugg

Actually just 1 very big sentence

But yeah

Give more defined punctuations in this sentence

its a shame really, melee has a lot of different weapon types, boomerangs, spears, swords, flails etc but they barely get any content at all (except yoyos maybe) and so,
certain swords that arent used as much could be replaced with a different subclass to give them another chance, for example, burnt sienna could be replaced with a flail-like weapon maybe, since at that tier you have like, 20 swords to choose from anyway.

[tawny garden]

There are more swords than all summoner weapons

Fun fact

[wooden wedge]

I don't get why you would literally just replace them

Instead of making some more of other weapon types

[cobalt pewter]

Because

Too much broadswords go brr

[fossil finch]

adding more of other weapon types turns the sugg into "Add more weapons for other classes because melee has too much" and you don't wanna enter that hole there

[tawny garden]

Calamity adds like

800 weapons already

[safe oasis]

just like

delete the swords

a little backspace never hurt anybody

except the devs that coded and sprited them but pfff not like it matters

[cobalt pewter]

[tawny garden]

[pine star]

[tawny garden]

@fading silo boss suggs are a no

[fading silo]

Oh. I had this neat idea for items and armors 🥺

Should I delete post?

[hollow shell]

Prolly yeah

[fading silo]

Darn

It’s gone now

[hollow shell]

(specific ideas for items and armors would also not be allowed)

Your sugg was actually quite good in terms of being mostly reasoning without specific ideas, but unfortunately it was based around a disallowed concept

[tawny garden]

yeah

[fading silo]

That sucks cause I was going to continue by labeling classes, sets bonuses, and expert/Revengance items after too. thanks for letting me know

I had it all written down too

[safe oasis]

rip

[tawny garden]

[safe oasis]

tbf it was in the pins though

all the do’s and don’ts of suggesting

[hollow shell]

You could keep the ideas around and maybe make your own mod with em eventually 🤔

[whole sedge]

make a calamity addon with that then
yeah sis stuff is an interestingly bad thing

[fading silo]

So what is allowed then?

[eternal escarp]

anything not in the doc basically

[tawny garden]

everything that isn't disallowed

yeah

and the doc isn't overly restrictive

[eternal escarp]

it looks long, but not really yeah

most of the stuff there make sense why not to suggest them for the most part

[cobalt pewter]

About the sword sugg, the amount of broadswords are disgustingly high, ye. Just because it's a basic use style to work with, doesn't mean that it can just casually have triple the amount of weapons to the entirety of summoner weapons

[tawny garden]

like, bosses take a huge amount of time to think of, code in, sprite, balance, etc.

[cobalt pewter]

There's a lot of underutilized use styles in Terraria for melee

[tawny garden]

so all bosses that are going to be in the mod are already planned

[eternal escarp]

flail to melee ratio for example

wrong reply fuck

[tawny garden]

[eternal escarp]

meant sword instead of melee too

goddamit i need sleep

[tawny garden]

yes, you do

[fading silo]

Ugh. I’m so disappointed. I really thought my idea for bosses in the evil biomes for hardmode was really thought out and detailed.

[eternal escarp]

well, you could always try making your own mod

[tawny garden]

I have no doubt that it was thought out and detailed

[eternal escarp]

insert :fear: here

[tawny garden]

navboxes...

[sleek turret]

(Melee)

[fading silo]

I would show it here, but I don’t want to get in trouble for breaking some rule.

[tawny garden]

I mean

[sleek turret]

not the first time in history someone breaks a Don't from the doc.

[tawny garden]

you won't get warned or anything

[pine star]

:TERROR:

[cobalt pewter]

h

[fading silo]

I can’t talk about armor suggestions right?

[eternal escarp]

well depends
is it adding an armor set?

[fading silo]

Yes

[sleek turret]

you can propose a change to them such as how their bonus works stats, etc.

[eternal escarp]

also showing your sugg drafts in here should be a-okay for the most part

so dw about that

[fading silo]

I have the set bonus and class and stats for the most part

Well...not defense stats and stuff. It was more so a general idea

But it’s not vague

[sleek turret]

you can ask for a new armor in progression if its really needed (in which case for example, Titan Heart Armor was added for a early-hardmode/pre-mech viability) but not specify its set bonuses, stats, etc.

[fading silo]

It was going to be three armor sets based on the three or two evil biomes that would be before the mech bosses and completely optional too.

[eternal escarp]

basically suggesting an item, armor set or smthn like that just for the sake of it would likely get rejected

and going too much in detail to make a SIS would also be likely rejected

[fading silo]

Idk. I think these armors are pretty legit imo

[eternal escarp]

the ideas might, but the question is

[sleek turret]

'why?'

[eternal escarp]

are they needed? and why does calamity need to add them

[fading silo]

It was to help the player get a slight boost against the mech bosses cause I felt that titanium and cryo-bars was not strong enough and I will say that I love the fact that cryogen allows you to skip the ore grind tho

Maybe post mechs tho

It was either pre or post tbh

[eternal escarp]

those areas of the game are quite filled to the brim with armors already tbf

Mollusk, Daedalus, all HM Ore, Titan Heart

and hell, even statigel

[sleek turret]

statigel is viable on pre-plantera even

because of mobility

[eternal escarp]

ye

[fading silo]

Can I show my armors tho? I really want to show it off.

[eternal escarp]

feel free, but maybe not here

[sleek turret]

You can show them on #general-media

[eternal escarp]

^ yeah thats a great place

[fading silo]

Nah. There’s no design. I meant my ideas

[eternal escarp]

could still just stir up a convo in a normal channel

[hollow shell]

hm

[tawny garden]

mb #other-mod-talk?

[eternal escarp]

(its not really a mod, just an idea)

(so idk really)

[hollow shell]

We don't really have a place to talk about item ideas

[eternal escarp]

it is a pretty specific topic yeah

[hollow shell]

I mean
I could let you describe them in this channel anyway, even though they won't be valid as a suggestion as-is

[fading silo]

It was going to be Hallow got Pixie/Fairy armor and that would be maybe Summoner/mage/range, but I wound up going with mage and ranger. Crimson was a carnage set that would give you tanky stats but at a cost. Corruption wound up being summoner and rogue and the set bonus would help minion aggro & damage along with a stealth and speed up for a small duration kind of like the panic necklace.

The cooldown for corruption was 10 seconds btw

Cause I felt like having it constant was kind of op

Can I post the armor abilities too?

By ability I mean stats. They were pretty balanced imo

[hollow shell]

ssssure

[fading silo]

Also I’m going to include the Revengance/Expert mode things because it just helped with the flow

class + items + armor for each evil:

• Hallow: Mage/Ranger

• Fairy/Pixie armor set

• set bonus: flight time & speed increased by 10%, magic damage increased by 10%, increased range damage by 5% and enemies are less likely to target you due to your elegant appearance.

• Expert or Revengance item: Forbidden Fruit: permanently increases life regen by 5% and lowers the wait time of potion sickness by a small amount

• Crimson is melee

• Carnage/Fleshy armor set

• set bonus: your defense and damage output is increased by 5%, but enemies are more likely to target you due to your oozing blood or puss

• Expert/ Revengance item: Mutation: increases damage reduction by 5% or 10% but you move slower due to your infection.

• Corruption summoner or rogue:

• Host/Decayed set

• set bonus: stealth damage increased by 15%, max minions +2, minion damage increases the more health you loss (max would be 10 extra damage output) and you emit a putrid odor, which causes enemies to sometimes run away when they get too close does not work on bosses, but can work on mini bosses with a cooldown

• Expert/Revengance item: The Hive: upon taking damage, your minions will immediately target the enemy/enemies, you will release toxic spores and cursed flames, and your defense is decreased by 3 due to the thin layer of rotting skin, but your speed is increased by 5% cooldown: 10 seconds

There. If you want me to take it down I will.

[hollow shell]

Should be okay as long as it's not in #suggestions-posting.
Ye, neat ideas, could fit in their own mod if you wanna go through with em

[eternal escarp]

(iirc, theres a channel over at the tmod server where people can ask for help with mod making? if it exist could definitely ask there)

[hollow shell]

(They aren't Calamity-specific so, standalone should work just as fine)

[fading silo]

I just really think that this is a good idea

[eternal escarp]

could definitely fit in a standalone grab-bag like mod

[fading silo]

I’ll come up with the armor pieces and the materials if you think it’s fine for me to just suggest this in the suggestions minus the Revengance items ofc

[safe oasis]

you can just keep those ideas and make your own mod as an addition

[fading silo]

I can’t

I am not a programmer

[safe oasis]

guaranteed implementation if you make it yourself

not too late to learn

[sharp prism]

Can confirm

[fading silo]

I know. I think I’ll just suggest in tmod then.

[sleek turret]

you can learn c# and how terraria code works with all the variables are

there's some tutorials and stuff you can search on the internet and tmod wiki

[hollow shell]

It takes some time to learn but if you do, you won't be beholden to anyone else to execute your ideas

[fading silo]

It was just some small idea cause I was talking about how they could add hardmode evil biome bosses cause the biomes feel empty imo.

[tawny garden]

uh

[fading silo]

In the mod talk channel ofc

[tawny garden]

@drifting rain no joke suggs please

[sleek turret]

Danny's stream was a big meme.

[tawny garden]

(that counts as a joke suggestion, yes)

[sleek turret]

and it was a joke for april fools

[fading silo]

?

ok

[drifting rain]

it wasn't a joke I need Danny Devito in my life

[fading silo]

There’s a mod that adds Danny as a trash man pet.

[sleek turret]

you can search on Youtube the same video that Danny was streaming on april fools event

[safe oasis]

“it wasn’t a joke i’m serious” is also a really bad way to defend it that’s commonly used for some reason

[tawny garden]

@hollow shell kill

[hollow shell]

April Fools Day is over 😠

[hollow shell]

Calamity does.

[fading silo]

Exactly

No need for that suggestion lol

[tawny garden]

(it's never late to learn anything tbh)

[earnest cape]

ironically trash man pet drops from trashers

[hollow shell]

less 'ironic' and more 'fitting'

[earnest cape]

ye ig

[earnest cape]

isn't this already happening

not in underground astral byeah

[hollow shell]

This suggestion isn't inherently bad but part of the reason does mention stuff in 1.5

Also kinda not really Misfortune. Not in the near future.

[earnest cape]

ah alright

also yeah like rover mentioned remove (Frigid being removed entirely and Hallowed Ore being generated in the hallow). this part

[fallen plover]

oh wait why

[hollow shell]

well and the preceding line too, "and it would bring Cosmilite in line with the other bars which used to only drop from bosses"
Unless you can think of examples that happened in the past

You're not supposed to make suggestions regarding upcoming content
and this extends to using upcoming content as part of your reason

[fallen plover]

nah ig i was just anticipating it in the future because i saw it in #changelogs

ok i'll remove it

[hollow shell]

👍

You could maybe add some more to your reasoning about why Cosmilite should generate in the Astral underground specifically

Like, state the thematic similarities

(as opposed to it generating, say, in the normal underground across the world)

(or the planetoids)

[fallen plover]

i was thinking of the tooltip for cosmilite actually

"A chunk of highly-resistant cosmic steel"

so i thought it would be perfect to crashland with the astral meteor

or at least generate in the same biome

[hollow shell]

Yeah

Indeed, thematically similar

[fossil finch]

Thing is, thematic or not, it makes no sense with something directly in game

Draedon's Space log, with him stating cosmilite is a metal of his own invention

One may state "well lore, who car"
It is in game
Not on some leftover doc or on a side source like the wiki

[hollow shell]

The wording is indeed "Forged from the cosmic steel of my own creation"

But, that's still kinda nebulous

cuz I doubt he just manifested it from nothing

What'd he use to create the steel

[static grail]

Yeah there should still be some kinda ore for it right? How else would you get a metal bar besides some kinda alloy

Which im p sure it doesnt say it is

[fossil finch]

Not something on the astral, for sure
We know for a fact draedon couldn't even touch the place how could have he mined shit from there
Aureus got infected, how could draedon mine something from the place in that case?
Although, i don't think any of this is ever mentioned aside aureus lore item, let me see it one sec

[crude geode]

Mmm I dislike this idea because it implies every single bar has to have a ore counterpart you can find.

It’s valid, just not my cup of tea.

Also the astral infection already has an ore so adding another one feels odd to me

[fossil finch]

Oh well thanks yharim for not being helpful aureus mentions shit

My point is, this kinda roses the point of directly contradicting something that's in game.
Also, even if aureus' whole stuff isn't even mentioned there, lore does make it so it doesn't make sense draedon mined cosmilite ore in the astral biome

Can't say the sugg is unvalid, however

But it does tick off multiple stuff

Also, as a side note, everything related to the cosmos doesn't have to be tied to astral infection
not going far, Cosmilite bars considering who made them is an alien

It could be an alloy made with random stuff and pulished by Draedon's knowledge, or a material from his planet he had in his ship, byeah

[novel belfry]

It doesn't have to be cosmilite ore

Cosmilite's an alloy

Patiently waits for neko's response

[fossil finch]

Still

How did Draedon mine it in that case (Aureus)
yes, this is never explicitly stated in game, lore item just tells you aureus is some cybernetic titan infected, but still a point because it is lore that exists

[novel belfry]

Oh yeah

why not just rework aureus' lore to be a mining draedon automaton that got corrupted because it spent way too much time in the astral biome

[fossil finch]

No because fuck you

[novel belfry]

I am not above fucking over the lore

[fossil finch]

Well, as far as the sugg goes, i have other stuff to mention

DoG farming can be a hassle
Not really? His drops counter him to an extreme and he drops a good amount of bars tbh
Helps with "nobody goes to astral ug"
Not really, by that time you would just zoom through the place with your pick barely minding the fact it is astral underground, this doesn't do that, not alone, at least.

[novel belfry]

good rebuttal

[crude geode]

Yeah I have never had a problem with farming DoG tbh

[fossil finch]

This just seems like a "please i want to zoom throughout the game quicker"-like sugg, at least it points to that direction, but well, valid, it is valid

[crude geode]

He doesn’t have a mandatory 1 minute wait period like ML

That said I think giving the players the option to mine isn’t a bad thing, just that I don’t personally like the sugg

[novel belfry]

I've been thinking about an suggestion for a Astral Infection rework that revolves around it getting moved to Post-Moon Lord
I just don't know if it would be a big don't.
||I don't actually intend on suggesting this before the Draedon Update comes out, purely because an entire biome rework might be too much for the devs||

[fossil finch]

Just wait until they add dog's pocket world as a subworld where you mine cosmilite and farm seasonal energies
what i just said is an idea considered by devs, doesn't mean it could/will happen or be exactly like this

[novel belfry]

is this a serious?

[fossil finch]

It is

[novel belfry]

anyways my reasoning for the "astral infection moves to post-moonlord" suggestion is that the Astral Infection has a lot of unrealized potential

but that potential is unrealized because the astral infection spawns at the same time the hallow does and the corruption/crimson gets buffed.

[fossil finch]

Obvious Issues:

two more post ml bosses out of nowhere

[grim tusk]

nobody goes to astral underground
Have you ever heard of the mighty hive pod

Amazing summoner sentry

Also op as fuck

And astralachnea staff is epic and op too

[fossil finch]

I am aware

But read the sugg

Because i'm saying that because the sugg reasons with that

Smh

[grim tusk]

Also yea it wont make sense at all to add cosmilite ore to Astral

Lore

And some rumors of what they’ll do with cosmilite in the future

[fossil finch]

[violet sierra]

I had to go there once

The uh... Calrex dropped something i needed

i think

[fossil finch]

[violet sierra]

I didnt play summoner so something else

Eithervway, I agree that is a bit of a shame that you don't go into the Astral Underground. Theres a surprising amount of effort for something some people will literally never visit.

[bleak sentinel]

you either go there post aureus for some meh weapons or never

[fossil finch]

"Meh"

[violet sierra]

inb4 this is a

"its not on class setups page so its bad" situation

[fossil finch]

Not really
They are truly op

[grim tusk]

Both weapons are ridiculously overpowered for their tier

Outshining post Golem weapons

You can also mine novae slag and use extractinator for some loot

Stardust, stars, astral ore (post-deus), gems, ores, coins

(Also buff the drop rates (or amount) of the first 3 and coin amount)

[violet sierra]

Allow Flying Carpet to be Crafted in Pre-Hardmode

I also don't see a reason to not make it craftable in Pre-HM, but I disagree with the notion that its on equal footing with the Sandstorm In a Bottle. The Sandstorm In a Bottle is far more viable because you wouldn't actually use the Sandstorm in a Bottle, you'd make it into the Sandstorm in a Balloon (I consider being able to be upgraded in the same tier that you obtain an item to count towards the original item's viability), and if you care that much to get that, you're probably also gonna get Bundle of Balloons.

Though like I said, I also see no reason for it to be unobtainable in Pre-HM.

"Prevent all bosses from dealing or receiving damage for a few seconds after spawning"

Im a tad late to this, and I agree with it in all but one case

I would say that if this suggestion was implemented, it shouldn't apply to Profaned Guardians

idk if my game was acting weird, but every time I fought them, they would zip in and suddenly charge at me right after using the item, and it felt like an intentional thing and not an accident like Crabulon/Skeletron.

[shrewd furnace]

am I allowed to star my own suggestion or will the star not count?

[distant gyro]

you are allowed

[cobalt pewter]

I mean go ahead

[shrewd furnace]

nice

[distant gyro]

no one cares to check

[earnest cape]

☑️ moment

[safe oasis]

unitalicize the title

[eternal escarp]

it doesnt really matter

[safe oasis]

yeah but it looks better

[eternal escarp]

[safe oasis]

oh yeah @twin timber ^

[twin timber]

What is it

[twin timber]

Oh, remove the asterisks?

[safe oasis]

you can keep it bold

italics are the weird part

[twin timber]

ok, done

[safe oasis]

[eternal escarp]

(you didnt have to he just disliked it kekw)

byeah it does look better without it

[earnest cape]

Post-ml is entirely getting rebalanced

[fading silo]

Oh

[hardy dock]

I don’t really see a huge issue with the Forge being post-dog tbh

[earnest cape]

you should read the changelogs before making suggestions imo

[fading silo]

ok...I’ll take it down I guess

Does this mean that I can’t post another suggestion if one possibly crosses my mind later today?

[earnest cape]

well

[cobalt pewter]

Depends on what sugg is it

[earnest cape]

what's the slowmode cooldown at

hdflr

[earnest cape]

and ye ^^

[fading silo]

Got it.

Also is the mech summon going to be smaller cause it’s got a big hit box making it hard to dodge as a summoner. Just curious cause I recently did a summoner playthrough.

[bleak sentinel]

could i add a sugg for an obtainable boomer duke summon? i know bloodworms exist but i spent 30 minutes at sulph sea with zerg and ult battler and didnt find a single one

[eternal escarp]

next update's changelogs will make bloodworms easier to get your hands on

[bleak sentinel]

epic

thanks for saving me from looking like a clown

[eternal escarp]

also AR III is technically and obtainable OD summon

[bleak sentinel]

yeah but it takes 15 minutes

[eternal escarp]

the price of consistency

[worn salmon]

i dont see a problem with the current status messGes tbh

theyre fine

they tell the player about world changes

[violet sierra]

The only part oft hat suggestion I agree with

is that part about Cosmic terrors are watching

but even tehn, dont remove it

just have thaat appear after providence

[eternal escarp]

i mean, you can fight them before providence, and you get alarmed about the dungeon aswell right after ML so imo it makes sense to be alarmed for those

[violet sierra]

"You can fight them before Providence"

I thought she was the only way to obtain Rune of Kos?

[eternal escarp]

im prty sure theres a recipe for the rune now

[earnest cape]

!wiki Rune of Kos

[red storm]

https://calamitymod.fandom.com/wiki/Rune_of_Kos

[sleek turret]

there is

[violet sierra]

Huh, my bad.

This is a silly recipe

I think it needs to be more expensive

Profaned Core requires more Unholy Essence than the item that the boss it summons drops

lol

[eternal escarp]

Well

[earnest cape]

tbf provi is more rewarding

[eternal escarp]

the infinite profaned core will be the only profaned core anyways iirc

and itl drop from the guardians straight away

the consumable one is being deleted iirc

cant find the other thing about guardians dropping the infinite core

[violet sierra]

They should just do this for every boss summon imo

Consumable boss summons arent very fun imo

[eternal escarp]

normal game wise, yeah they are annoying

personally i find them usefull to count amout of tries of a boss in nohits but thats not a reason at all obv

[earnest cape]

book

[eternal escarp]

oh

right

[fading silo]

Yes, but they really don’t give off a sense of change. I believe this is a message in calamity: Solar Eclipse enemies become anxious doesn’t really make sense. So now they drop solar veils?

Also the great sand shark doesn’t feel like a mini boss. Considering that it only drops a scale and some forbidden frags.

[hollow shell]

That eclipse message doesn't seem to be Calamity

[fading silo]

I thought so

That’s why I said I believe

[cobalt pewter]

That's really what minibosses does in vanilla and cal

Like

Santank only drops chain gun

And it's technically a miniboss

[hollow shell]

(Remember that the Grand Scale is used to craft a full weapon set)

[cobalt pewter]

Or hell

Ice Queen

Ice Queen only gives you North Pole and Blizzard Staff afaik

[fading silo]

At least ice Queen will drop some useful weapons

[hollow shell]

GSS does too

indirectly

[cobalt pewter]

Through its material ye

[tawny garden]

"Solar Eclipse enemies become anxious" is neither Calamity nor Vanilla

[fading silo]

I thought so

Ok

Now I’m bout to get harassed for it lol

[tawny garden]

wdym

[fading silo]

Nm

I feel dumb that’s all

[hollow shell]

correction =/= harassment

It's okay

[frail mantle]

Also funny homing rocket launcher

[tawny garden]

it's not a big deal

[cobalt pewter]

God

I forgot funny homing rocket launcher exists

It's bad (good)

[fading silo]

I forgot. When do you get shadow spec bars?

Oh that’s a question that should be in mod talk lol

[tawny garden]

post-SCal

[hollow shell]

ye post-SCal, used to fight the Boss Rush
In the upcoming update it will be after both SCal and Draedon, still only used to fight the Boss Rush

[fading silo]

Got it.

[grim tusk]

Snowman cannon

[hollow shell]

.

[hollow shell]

Question @vital condor, about your Astral Meteor sugg from a week ago

How do you know that the meteors do not already ignore platforms?

Because it seems like they do

[vital condor]

Because I made a world-spanning sky bridge

and it entirely failed to generate meteors until I punched a hole in it

not when hardmode started, not when I killed Astrum Aureus

[hollow shell]

As in, it did not generate meteors at all, or the meteors crashed into the platforms resulting in a very small amount of Astral Ore?

[vital condor]

didn't generate at all

[hollow shell]

Alright

[vital condor]

additionally until 1.4, vanilla meteors did the same

if you had a skybridge covering the world meteors could never generate because there were no valid solid blocks to land on

[hollow shell]

Alright, thank you
We see the problem now

It's exactly as you suspect

[vital condor]

👍 Hope I was helpful

[earnest cape]

didn't press shift?

[glass sentinel]

@pseudo quest are you gonna add to that?

[earnest cape]

and btw that stage of the game is being rebalanced

[pseudo quest]

yeah

[earnest cape]

and balance suggs are a don't

so yeet it

[pseudo quest]

I was trying to

oh

my bad

[earnest cape]

its fine i recommend reading the pins of the channel

[pseudo quest]

just thought it was too defense oriented for a weapon that gets better if you don't get hit

[earnest cape]

you can suggest reworks tho

[pseudo quest]

how is that different from a balance suggestion

[earnest cape]

suggesting how a weapon works and its stats is different

[pseudo quest]

hm

I mean

I wanted it changed

it currently doesn't give damage boosts

and I wanted a damage boost

I just threw 1.5 out since it seemed reasonable

[hollow shell]

Which weapon was it?

[earnest cape]

polaris parrotfish

[hollow shell]

I see

[earnest cape]

can't you check idiot logs tho rover

for deleted messages

[hollow shell]

Yeah but I figured I'd ask instead for no reason

[earnest cape]

understandable

[hollow shell]

The suggestion could be valid, if it didn't say 1.5% exactly

And of course had a reason, which he was gonna get to

[earnest cape]

yeah ig i should've waited

[hollow shell]

@pseudo quest You could post again if you want, as long as the suggestion pertains mostly to conceptual reasons and not exact stats

[pseudo quest]

ok

[earnest cape]

why so many spaces?

and put in reasoning

[pseudo quest]

cuz whenever I use enter it submits the changes

[cobalt pewter]

Shift + Enter.

[pseudo quest]

it won't let me use it to create a space between things

oh ok