suggestions-discussion

[ashen warren]

like if it had poison/venom immunity you could swap it for ankh shield if you needed more damage/life regen or something

[fossil finch]

rework/rebalance the bloom stone

nobody wants to fight the plague bringer goliath like 10 times for some flower boots ripoff and it feels like it is only used as an ingredient for the heart of the elements.
-It is only a hote material
-This is an unnecessary comment that gives off aggression without more reason than "i don't wanna farm for it" remove this

as it is it would be better served as rebalanced as a plantera drop or majorly buffed to give effects similar to the spore sack/ bee hove/ other jungle specific effects.
Eh don't see why should it be like already existing stuff but this doesn't break anything so

it’s outranked by most if not all of the other heart of the elements items despite being much easier to obtain and the debuff and damage increase are subpar.
-Not true, hote matts are outclassed by normal accs
That aside, it is as easy to obtain as the rest? It has the same drop chance, it is just the last one on progression, so to farm it optimally you'll need more advanced stuff and.. well, it is true, why would you farm it if not for hote, that's post cultist?
the flower/growth stuff is just an annoyance and there are already 2/3 items (one being at the same tier yet easier to obtain) which are better choices.
Eh they are exactly same choices, not true, tho they are easier to obtain in comparision to bloom stone, yeah.
it could be moved to a plantera drop, have its damage boosted to 12% or have some stat added like damage reduction or life regen. it could even be given venom/poison immunity to be more useful or just a buff to the aura’s damage/duration
You should mostly center the sugg on this, but don't be specific with anything it does also the venom/poison immunity would be useless for anything post plantera really

The whole sugg is at the end just "hote matt bad" so it won't get anywhere anyways

we tried

[warm scarab]

-Not true, hote matts are outclassed by normal accs :slobbyjoy~1:

excuse me

no

aero stone is actually good

very

[eternal escarp]

ourclassed still

[warm scarab]

...

[eternal escarp]

frog leg for one

[tawny garden]

Frog Leg doesn't count

[warm scarab]

there is a reason y i don't use frog leg over aero stone

[tawny garden]

[warm scarab]

because frog leg is fucking broken

[fossil finch]

Yeah
It is useful if you are lazy or if it drops first ds kill

[warm scarab]

i made it yeet your wing time

[fossil finch]

But it is outclassed

[warm scarab]

also

bloom stone

what do you expect

it's name already told you what it would possiblly do

[eternal escarp]

prty sure all of aero stones stats up are outclassed by other stuff

[fossil finch]

Ye

Except damage on accessory terms (everything else with menacing actually)

[eternal escarp]

you could say "but it gives a bit of everything in one"

but its too little to matter imo

[fossil finch]

Ye

[cobalt pewter]

Aero Stone has a niche (though overshadowed by Frog Leg)

[eternal escarp]

what are the exact stat values it gives agian?

checking on phone is ech

[cobalt pewter]

!wiki Aero Stone

[red storm]

https://calamitymod.fandom.com/wiki/Aero_Stone

[cobalt pewter]

One of the ancient relics

Increases movement speed by 10%, jump speed by 20%, and all damage by 3%

[eternal escarp]

oh, its 10% speed

nvm then, only the damage and jump speed are overshadowed afaik

although 10 speed isnt much anyways atleast atm

[cobalt pewter]

Jump speed might be a bit more relevant in 1.5, due to Frog Leg changes

[eternal escarp]

ye

[cobalt pewter]

But atm Aero Stone's jump speed is halved if you have Frog Leg so brr

[eternal escarp]

funny frog

[cobalt pewter]

I don't see the merit in giving 3% to all damage for each stone

Just concentrate the dmg boost into a single stone

[safe oasis]

then thats just void of extinction part 2

budget class emblem

[fossil finch]

[eternal escarp]

HotE materials are just

[ashen warren]

I think fallen starfish should recover mana instead of increasing it.

[safe oasis]

because?

[eternal escarp]

i can kinda think of a reason, but i can also think of a big counterclaim to why it shouldnt so

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[ashen warren]

nahhhhhhhhh man

mana potions exist

and theyre not super expensive

[eternal escarp]

thats basically the counterpoint i had in mind yes

[ashen warren]

i also really like the idea of reworking the solar eclipse

also maybe would be nice to increase the number of darksun frags you get from non-mothron enemies

because mothron gave me like the VAST majority of the darksun frags i got lol

[eternal escarp]

i think thats the intent, that you should fight mothrons more then the rest

seeing how before (iirc) you needed to kill a mothron for p2 yharon

[molten quest]

I thought it was surviving the post-p1 yharon solar eclipse-

[eternal escarp]

im not sure what it was

i do know that rn its just doin p1 yharon once

byeah

[fossil finch]

yoyo bag singlehandedly doubling all dps yoyos can

yeah no

this won't uh

happen

ever

yoyo bag is already strong

if the problem is the yoyos say to buff them

not yoyo bag

[languid quartz]

isn't a yoyo bag upgrade distinctly in the donts

[fossil finch]

iirc ye

[wooden wedge]

@zenith pagoda since yoyo bag upgrades are in the don'ts I'll just delete your sugg, please remember to check the pins next time

[dapper blaze]

god the name was even better

"make yo yo bag pog"

[molten quest]

Yoyo bag was already pog though, you use it for the rest of the game once you get it unless you aren't planning on using it-

[sand umbra]

(but why would you not use it)

(it's literally the only reason yo-yos are viable in the vast majority of situations)

[pine star]

Masochism?

[sand umbra]

semi-related: Yoyo Bag upgrades aren't in the Don'ts

so as much as I despise the fact that people continue to request them, because Bag is already broken

a sugg that requests one is in fact valid as long as it follows normal sugg rules

[pine star]

iirc "Add Yoyo Bag to Ele Gauntlet" is in the don'ts

[sand umbra]

nope

just marked as frequently suggested

[pine star]

oh

[sand umbra]

nothing outlines it as a Don't

I have asked for Yoyo Bag upgrades to be outlined as a Don't because of how busted Yoyo Bag is already, but it never happened

so until the day that doc actually clarifies that yes, Yoyo Bag buff/upgrade suggs are illegal
any sugg that asks for such is still completely valid if it follows the normal rules

[pine star]

I would prefer Yoyo Bag to just be nerfed

[pine star]

THERE WERE "BUFF YOYO BAG" SUGGS?

[cobalt pewter]

I think I suggested to rebalance Yoyo Bag (or Glove specifically) to be not dumb

Idk why this didn't really take off considering it's a net buff to yoyos as they're balanced with absolute need of bag atm

[fossil finch]

because you didn't say BUFF YOYOS BUT REBALANCE YOYO BAG/GLOVE

[sand umbra]

tl;dr
@zenith pagoda your suggestion's subject didn't actually break a Don't, so feel free to repost it assuming it follows all the normal suggestion rules. I apologize on their behalf for the inconvenience

[zenith pagoda]

pog

[fossil finch]

~~Not like it is getting anywhere thomas don't make him belie-

[zenith pagoda]

wait

but i mod told me it does

and ur not a mod

[sand umbra]

I also read the document

the pinned Don'ts document

[cobalt pewter]

thomas don't mislead the man into thinking that sugg system does anything

ahem

Anyways

[sand umbra]

the only thing on there is adding the Yoyo Bag to the Elemental Gauntlet, and that is purely a frequently suggested thing, not a Don't

[zenith pagoda]

ive seen some that have gone through

[wooden quartz]

Mods are human, generally correct humans, but humans

[fossil finch]

even if it worked, it wouldn't get accepted

[tawny garden]

These are don'ts

[sand umbra]

nope

[tawny garden]

As stated at the top of the section

[sand umbra]

just things that you should stray away from sugging because they've been said so many times already

[tawny garden]

"Don't suggest these"

[fossil finch]

those aren't dont's

[sand umbra]

These may not explicitly violate the Don'ts above, however they have been suggested so often they do not need to be suggested any more. So, do not suggest these ideas.

[tawny garden]

Rover said that they are

[sand umbra]

then that should be clarified on the document

because currently it isn't

[tawny garden]

I asked it to be clarified

[fossil finch]

true
atroverman just explicitly say they are don't on the doc smh

[tawny garden]

And Rover added that last sentence

[sand umbra]

yet they're still kept separate from the normal Don'ts

because ?????

if you wanna clarify that something is a Don't, put it with the other Don'ts

[tawny garden]

ig because they are more specific

[sand umbra]

and again, it's solely the subject of adding Bag to Ele Gauntlet that happens to be a Don't
adding an upgrade to Yoyo Bag in a different capacity is not disallowed, which I presume was the subject of the aforementioned sugg seeing as I saw nothing about Ele Gauntlet in the discussion prior to it just being snapped out of existence
so unless I finally got my wish of Bag upgrade suggs being outlawed and the doc just never got updated to reflect it (and nothing I see indicates that that ever happened), I see no significant problem from purely a "what are the sugg rules" standpoint

and that, my friends, is all I have to say on that

now then, have I already missed a conversation on how Bloom Stone sucks

it appears that I have. god damnit

[dapper coral]

oh bloom stone sugg

this is the part where i say that there are considerations in the far far future for HotE components to become super awesome and unique, but not for this update so go ahead and suggest things anyways

[sand umbra]

[pine star]

[sand umbra]

it's planned for Someday™️

[dapper coral]

it do be

[sand umbra]

it sucks too because Bloom Stone honestly could use the attention
conceptually it's one of the more interesting HotE components but in practice it's outclassed by a lot of things and on a base level it's just a statstick with an aura of virtually-inconsequential damage (and also you get the Flower Boots effect but marginally better)

I just want HotE components to be more interesting, man
here's hoping Someday™️ comes within the next couple years

[ancient mirage]

this seems too specific

[heady storm]

It is yes.

[grim tusk]

@merry maple Specific item Enemy suggestions are not allowed

[heady storm]

You need to make your suggestion less specific yes.

[tawny garden]

No reason too

[merry maple]

No?

Oh

Sorry

[heady storm]

No real reason to add a new enemy is listed either.

[merry maple]

Deleting it rn

[tawny garden]

Why should it exist?

[heady storm]

Oki doki then.

[tawny garden]

m ok

[merry maple]

Idk

Cool glowing whale

[wind shell]

I feel like it would really help to have boss guides for the vanilla bosses on the calamity site. While there are the regular boss guides on the terraria wiki, they are not helpful at all when you play on revengeance and higher.

I had a super hard time with bosses like Mech Twins on my first revengeance run, having to pass them until I beat Plantera.

[zenith hazel]

people are already working on them and this is not the right channel for this topic either

[wind shell]

oh

[zenith hazel]

#wiki-discussion would be better

[wind shell]

aah

ty ty

[zenith hazel]

np

[hexed drift]

does anyone think whips would be a good addition to calamity if they were balanced properly?

[eternal escarp]

whips arent even in calamity yet, so its hard to know

[hexed drift]

yet?

[eternal escarp]

1.4 tmod will eventually release

so yet, yeah

[hexed drift]

cool

does summoner suffer from the progression issues and jankiness of vanilla terraria in calamity?

[tawny garden]

don't suggest whips, future content suggs aren't allowed

[tawny garden]

maybe

[hexed drift]

where are they allowed

[eternal escarp]

not here, thats for sure lol

[hexed drift]

i think i was asking more of a question than a suggestion

[tawny garden]

ah

[hexed drift]

like if anyone thought it was a good idea

not that i thought it should be added

[tawny garden]

the amount of summoning weapons in vanilla is low as hell

it's meant to be a support class in vanilla

not a standalone one

[hexed drift]

maybe

does anyone think the ranged weapons using stars are really lackluster for what they are

i think norfleet is almost ok but really suffers from the use time and projectile speed

but i think it's better dps for people with more aiming skill maybe

[eternal escarp]

norfleet and all the other post ML weapons are getting tested anyways

[hexed drift]

really

[eternal escarp]

yes

[tawny garden]

everything is getting rebalanced

[zenith hazel]

maybe getting rebalanced*

@hollow shell we brought this up the last meeting or smth but perhaps update the pin in this channel clarifying the post-ML weapons are definitely getting balanced, and so are some tiers in progression

I don’t think we have the time to go through everything, just the problematic tiers

[eternal escarp]

(i assume preboss HM is one of the tiers?)

[tawny garden]

ah

[hexed drift]

yeah

[zenith hazel]

but personally I don’t think people should suggest weapon rebalances regardless for the time being

[hexed drift]

i wish the derivatives from minishark and megashark were more viable

oh haha

ok

why not

[whole sedge]

1.5 update rebalancing a lot of things that we don't have complete access to yet.

[hexed drift]

makes sense

[zenith hazel]

because again, we could always go back to a specific tier given the chance

I’m just saying it’s not a guarantee we’re testing everything anymore

[dapper coral]

ye, for rn it's just better to let testers test what is gonna for sure be tested instead of getting all confused between suggs to balance x weapon in y tier

[hexed drift]

uhhhh i did not know there were devs here

good to know

[dapper coral]

some devs are also mods, ye

i'm of the opinion that balance suggs should never exist here even after 1.5 tbh because that's why testers exist but that's something to consider later

[zenith hazel]

this ^

[hexed drift]

uhhh are there plans to add crafting recipes or other obtainment methods for traveling merchant items such as pulse bow, tiger skin, and ammo box

idk if that was a bad question

[crystal iron]

Is it just post ml getting rebalanced or most if the tiers

Of*

[tawny garden]

entirety of Post-ML

and bits of HM and pre-HM ig

[crystal iron]

Oh, cuz I was gonna ask if it's ok for pre hm rebalance suggs

Cuz I have one in mind but idk if it's a don't or not

[tawny garden]

just ask someone

who's a tester

[dapper coral]

hello i am tester

[tawny garden]

hi

[dapper coral]

we're not testing prehm rn so best to save it for later

[zenith hazel]

again, it's best to hold off balancing suggestions until after 1.5

[crystal iron]

Oh ok

[tawny garden]

yeah, was gonna say

[ashen warren]

uhhh is there a problem with my suggestion?

i posted it more than 24 hours ago but it wasnt posted in #suggestions-voting

[cobalt pewter]

@zenith hazel bot committed bruh

[zenith hazel]

damn it

notified amber

[cobalt pewter]

[ashen warren]

whats up w the bot

[radiant meadow]

It's supposed to repost suggestions from #suggestions-posting into #suggestions-voting but it's been running into issues as of lately.

[ashen warren]

they got the people “bots” now

[heady storm]

My mouse is falling apart as I have mentioned before so doing this is super tedious.

[zenith hazel]

probably should've waited

it should be back now

[cobalt pewter]

moment

[heady storm]

Deed has been done already, no stopping.

[ashen warren]

ok, thank you

[zenith hazel]

@oak warren let's not shitpost and memeping fabsol, thanks

[crude geode]

@warm scarab straight up disabling it gives less choice than having it be activated by say holding a button, which would be my idea tbh

[warm scarab]

HMM

thing is

why would you hold an extra button just for a zoom effect

but that sounds fine

[crude geode]

hitkey
typo

[warm scarab]

Change how the player is teleported to hell via astral arcanum

As many of you don't know, boss rush teleports you to hell with astral arcanum's teleport function, which gets stuck and almost softlocks the game if you erase most of the underworld with other modded items(i.e. obsidian double insta bridge)/using onyx drill mount or there is no valid area for you to teleport to. Changing the teleportation would fix this problem. One way to change is allow astral arcanum to put you on thin air(at the center of the world) if there's no solid block that allows the player to land, as there is simply no way that the player does not have heat protection/lava immunity at the stage of game you obtain astral arcanum.

how does this look

[safe oasis]

you could remove the astral arcanum part entirely and just say change how the player is teleported to hell in boss rush

so its more understandable

[hollow shell]

So this suggestion only applies if you have dug out the entirety of your underworld

[sleek wadi]

Really extreme edge case but softlock sounds pretty serious

[tawny garden]

Put some ash

From a diff world

Solved

[warm scarab]

no

sometimes if you dug out the roof

it fails as well

[tawny garden]

Hm

[warm scarab]

last time i had this i have to force power off my pc

because terraria took literally ALL the memory

and since the teleport is trying to find a spot to teleport to

but constantly fails

it became an endless loop

which...

leads to death

[hollow shell]

I see

That's extreme enough that you may wanna report it to #bugs-read-pins instead

[tawny garden]

Yeah

[warm scarab]

hmm

[tawny garden]

(Though in fact it should be pretty obvious that destroying an entire layer will lead to problems)

[warm scarab]

thing is

it's weird that

teleporting to hell shows astral arcanum's UI

[hollow shell]

In BR, you mean?

[warm scarab]

yes

i discovered this when i got softlocked

it just shows the UI on top left

[hollow shell]

Hm.

You could include that in the bug report

(I would ask you to get some further info / video showcasing this happening, but I don't wanna hurt your compooter)

[eternal escarp]

not sure if it was stated or not, but straight up removing the players ability to use the sniper scope zoom on weapons with a right click will just lock out people who actually use it, i find sniper scope zoom always useful tbf

[safe oasis]

you could always do that one thing every new suggestor does when they suggest a bad idea

just make it a toggle in config :trol

[eternal escarp]

i mean, i think in this specific case making sniper scope toggleable is the best bet

[tawny garden]

[eternal escarp]

i cant think of anything else tbf

players could also just not use the scope kekw

[safe oasis]

10% dmg and crit tho

[eternal escarp]

then suffer the zoom tbh

even though the zoom is great imo

i never hold of right click most fights lmao

byeah

[safe oasis]

what if

toggle by vanity

[tawny garden]

@warm scarab about your sugg^

[eternal escarp]

just deleting the kinda main function of the accesory is just kinda stupid imo

i mean, its a scope

removing the zoom conpletely is just

eh

[cobalt pewter]

Toggle by vanity can be nice

[eternal escarp]

yeah, it doesnt have vanity anyways iirc

[cobalt pewter]

Mhm

[eternal escarp]

so it sounds like a good option

instead of config

[tawny garden]

Config for one acc is dum

[cobalt pewter]

True

[eternal escarp]

yeah

imagine config bloat

[tawny garden]

[warm scarab]

i can't record a vid, every time i try to get the vid obs just crashes along with tmod

i tried other recording methods

all failed

[eternal escarp]

record with your phone ig

might be your best bet for that lol

byeah, go read the rest here smh

[warm scarab]

my phone's cam is broken

[tawny garden]

[loud torrent]

i wonder If they change Luminite getting mined by every pickaxe in the game

[muted osprey]

probably will lol

[loud torrent]

Make %225 Pickaxe power to mine it

[tawny garden]

Luminite ore is unfinished

It makes the same sound as Dirt Blocks when it's mined

[muted osprey]

guh

[robust lava]

When I discovered that in tML I thought "well surely they must have fixed that in 1.4", but nope, still just dirt

[tawny garden]

mm

Maybe we'd need to send them a list of this shit

[robust lava]

I don't think the official bug report forum is being looked at much anymore, or else I'd report it there

[tawny garden]

mm

And pinging devs isn't allowed in terramain

For obvious reasons tbh

[safe oasis]

a lot of this suggestion feels like rambling

Then, you suddenly reach the end of the final phase, get him below 30% health, and his movement speed increases massively, and you'll find that sometimes when you try to dodge an attack he tracks you perfectly and then kills you, potentially even mid aerial dodge if you get unlucky
this does nothing to support the suggestion and could just be removed

Changing the boss's color in a distinctive and obvious way or adding particle effects would be a very obvious signifier
this also solves nothing. how would it be different than the current system of changing background

could easily be argued as an aesthetic change as well

[keen leaf]

A change in boss color is frequently used in video games to convey a change in behavior. Backgrounds, less so.
Providence suddenly turning blue in the middle of the fight tells you something is up.

That said, The color change would have to be significant, though, and i suspect that you're right that it would still fall into the trap of it seeming fine and ignorable during the first phase, and then suddenly mattering in the late second phase, with nothing to tell you otherwise. It'd also conflict with the death mode design, which seems to be intentional, so i'll remove it.

[eternal escarp]

i mean, the BG in DoG makes more sense since its harder to see DoG most of the time while tryna focus on the fight

in provi its diff since most of the projectiles come from her directly, leading your eyes to her

[safe oasis]

(minor thing)

visual que
typo, should be cue

[keen leaf]

I'm not sure I'd agree that this "does nothing to support the suggestion" - its an example of how late in the fight, things that you weren't taught to pay attention to suddenly matter, and it's not clear that you need to pay attention now, so instead the charge seems arbitrary.
Can you explain how this feels unrelated?

[keen leaf]

noted, fixing

[safe oasis]

the situation would happen with or without the color change. with the way you describe it, even if you notice the color change, you'll be too slow to react anyway

[keen leaf]

I've rewritten that part to try to focus less on my admittedly mixed anecdotes that muttled together, and try to instead focus on the point behind them.

[safe oasis]

looks good now

[hollow shell]

I will say that if you're playing Death Mode then you should already have a good idea of how the bosses work

And would know that the debuffs correspond with the BGs which correspond with DoG's behavior

[keen leaf]

When i mentioned my struggles with the fight, someone told me they completed an entire deathmode playthrough without learning this mechanic, and eventually had tp give up and turn off death mode to get past DoG
Whether or not what youre saying is true, the solution proposed here should make it more clear across all modes without stepping on the clear death mode decision to remove obvious state indicators as a way to require you to intuitively know the state before you act, by only telling you what you did wrong after youve been punished.

[fossil finch]

probably won't ever happen but agree

[hollow shell]

This would be welcome I think

[eternal escarp]

it would help remove a bit of off topicness by making it easier to move to a channel that isnt already rushing with activity

like happened a few minutes ago in #calamity-update-talk

[tawny garden]

repost moment

[eternal escarp]

i wanted to suggest this myself anyways but i forgot

[tawny garden]

how much did the prev. one get?

85

👀

[hot zephyr]

CMT is already under-moderated

We don't need CMT 2

[grim tusk]

yea heck, the Omori sever has like 1/3 of the people of this server and has like 6 general channels to talk about the game and all see decent activity while in here we just have #calamity-mod-talk and maybe #help-advice-read-pins and #calamity-update-talk which seem to ALWAYS have activity and usually have a lot of disruption (specially #calamity-update-talk ) due to a lack of space to talk without disrupting an ongoing convo

[hot zephyr]

People just need to be redirected to #help-advice-read-pins more

'cause like half of CMT is "what do I use against x"

[grim tusk]

and I've some other servers have less people and have more general channel

maybe we should split #help-advice-read-pins get an advice channel that adds advice (from veterans, devs, testers, respectable members or suggested in the help channel to be added to the advice channel)

[fossil finch]

that implies people read storm

[grim tusk]

maybe not like the tips channels in nohit server but like a better and superior version of it (only mods, CD (and maybe respected nohiters) can type, but anyone can suggest to add stuff in it)

[fossil finch]

people don't do that

[grim tusk]

yea sadly

[fossil finch]

their brains are too small for that

They must be spoonfed

sadly

[grim tusk]

smth like this is what I was wondering (i can type in this channel cuz I meet the reqs for it)

[sleek turret]

people not reading the pins, channel description, etc. is a problem in most or if not all channels in this server

[grim tusk]

yea lets return to #calamity-mod-talk 2 talk

this would be general channel where people can be even if they dont read the description or

so that they dont disrupt the channels that do have more important descriptions (which is every channel except #calamity-mod-talk )

[sleek turret]

i do actually agree about making help and advice becoming an actual help and advice channel and not being a literal epidome of recommending broken stuff/no-hit loadouts to casual players.

[grim tusk]

i agree with you except the nohit part

[sleek turret]

no-hit part was a little exagerated

[eternal escarp]

i agree with kaizo fully

[grim tusk]

like i havent seen any nohit loadouts in like 2 months

[eternal escarp]

i mean, i occasionaly see "just go full damage, you dont need to survive if you dont get hit"

byeah

[grim tusk]

and who tf would use a build where you die in 1 hit outside of nohits

[sleek turret]

basically that

[eternal escarp]

redirecting to #help-advice-read-pins will help a bit more, but sometimes channels like #calamity-update-talk get drifted into a conversation, that should be in #calamity-mod-talk but gets a harder time to move channel because #calamity-mod-talk sometimes is just flowing with activity

[sleek turret]

but atleast don't recommend people using x weapon, x armor, x accessories, x whatever and forgetting that weapon, armor and accessories variety exists.

[eternal escarp]

as an example ig, since it happens in #general-talk and here too sometimes

[sleek turret]

yeah

classic example of heated topic and someone asks about calamity

[grim tusk]

also speaking of this server lacking general channels; nohits has all of these, all of em see decent use and we're like not even 1/20000 of the people in this server offtopic doesnt count

[eternal escarp]

i mean you cant really compare these two ig

since nohit is full of alot of active people in a small community ig, so its easier to use those channels correctly and stuff

idk really how to explain but it feels like comparing the two servers is ech

[whole sedge]

Yeah kinda have to realize that is kinda full of competent people while this is just kind of a group of people that somehow exist

[tawny garden]

gaming chat room is pretty much genmedia

[eternal escarp]

theres the drawback of a second channel which was mentioned here that itll be harder to moderate 2 cal channels, which is true

as much as id like another calchat tbf

[eternal escarp]

~~kinda but its filled with BTD6 ~~

[grim tusk]

bruh did you saw how many people got kicked for being inactive (like not even being on the server for months, years even, aka Dormant role) at the start of the year

[eternal escarp]

were they kicked?

[grim tusk]

many yes

[eternal escarp]

huh

i stand corrected then

[grim tusk]

gaming chat room? more like Osu, Genshin, BTD6 and occasional Minecraft, Omori (just me lmao), Gungeon, Pokemon or any other shit

[fossil finch]

so gaming chat room

[grim tusk]

and typical chat is more similar to this server's #general-media

we went offtopic now

[eternal escarp]

well that was a joke byeah

[fossil finch]

point is

[grim tusk]

point is we need another general channel

[eternal escarp]

i still agree, its just the fact it has the drawback of needing more moderation i assume

[fossil finch]

pros of having cal talk 2:
-everyone wants cal talk 2
-it helps with channel flooding and derailing topics
cons:
-moderation is sadly a thing and we don't have some robot without soul or emotions to do so

[grim tusk]

just hire more mods

[fossil finch]

yeah but they are still lacking the not having souls or emotions part

[grim tusk]

actually yea this server has a small number of mods

[fossil finch]

you know that's essential to good moderation

you'll go insane otherwise

[grim tusk]

~~give all devs some moderation power ~~

[fossil finch]

if mods aren't connected, devs are neither

[grim tusk]

Staff mail

[eternal escarp]

i mean in any case

if the sugg passes, and the team wants another chat

id assume they will find a way to make it work, if they dont, it just prolly wont happen

[hot zephyr]

We could do without caltalk 2 if the current one becomes more moderated.

[grim tusk]

which prob never will due to most people with a color role dislikes going into there

[fossil finch]

not really because cal talk itself is not all of the issue

[grim tusk]

also ^

[hot zephyr]

(false assumption tbh)

[grim tusk]

many people use #help-advice-read-pins and #calamity-update-talk as #calamity-mod-talk

[sleek turret]

yep

[hot zephyr]

If there's to be more channels they should fill a niche not currently filled by an existing channel tbh

[eternal escarp]

well #calamity-mod-talk is used as #help-advice-read-pins more then the opposite, byeah

[fossil finch]

(draedon's mostly consist on derailing conversations)

[hot zephyr]

Caltalk is 40% #help-advice-read-pins

[eternal escarp]

yeah it is

[grim tusk]

and #help-advice-read-pins is more of boss loadouts

[eternal escarp]

well thats still "help" tbh

[grim tusk]

and probably needs a rework

[grim tusk]

but where is advice?

[eternal escarp]

lets be honest

most of the people there just ask "what to use for _"

the advice part isnt on the channel, its the members who just dont ask for advice most of the time

[grim tusk]

yea

[eternal escarp]

i would say making another info-like message in #rules to ask for people who need help to go the the (obviously called) #help-advice-read-pins , but if they dont read the channels name, they would prolly not exactly read the rules either

making ^ this ^ idea redundent prolly

[grim tusk]

yea the painful truth

[languid quartz]

I like this idea, but would this be different than the class setups wiki?

(also people don't read which makes it hard)

[fossil finch]

conclusion: ban calamity from the server

[grim tusk]

it would at least be more up to date more often as bosses dont change that much between updates

but yea

people dont read

[eternal escarp]

its funny how many issues regarding this topic couldve been easily fixed if people took the time to read

[languid quartz]

ah, the perils of a public server with a majority of the people under 16

[eternal escarp]

i mean its not the age of the people mostly its just who they are

[tawny garden]

yes

[languid quartz]

tru

[eternal escarp]

if it was the age then id prolly not read

byeah

[fossil finch]

i'm 14 and im cool smh

[languid quartz]

[eternal escarp]

any case

[tawny garden]

where's your cooldude role then

[eternal escarp]

if the sugg passes and the team wants to incorporate it, id assume they might find a way to make it work, or just sadly not do it

[fossil finch]

smh

true

atfabsol

[eternal escarp]

dont think theres really a point in continuing to say how the suggestion will fail ig

[tawny garden]

I don't really think that its chance of failing is that big

[languid quartz]

it is true that cal talk needs an expansion tho, people will be offtopic in draedon and since there's some argument about the viability of x item there it's impossible to carry over that convo

[eternal escarp]

failing as in, stars? or failing as in, cannot be done in the current way the server is?

[languid quartz]

they're planned @rough parrot

and in merk's sandbox iirc

[eternal escarp]

thats in works already, and wiki suggestions arent supposed to go here

[safe oasis]

(also wiki suggs in #wiki-discussion )

[eternal escarp]

yeah merks sandbox has a link to all the currently WiP ones (other then LC and ML iirc)

[rough parrot]

ah ok

[eternal escarp]

you should prolly remove the suggestion since its happening anyways

[rough parrot]

yup ima do that thank you

[eternal escarp]

[grim tusk]

I agree that the sound of face melter is boring but how would they get the sound from EtG?

[torn adder]

either recording it or maybe looking through the files?

[grim tusk]

And also why?

What is the reason of your sugg?

[dapper coral]

also this is a patreon wep

so uhh pings are in order

[grim tusk]

Cuz it currently boils out to “it would be be cool”

[torn adder]

That's pretty much it, yeah

I'm not sure

it doesn't really serve any practical purpose

and can't

[grim tusk]

welp that sugg is getting yeeted

[tawny garden]

Krankwagon

ping them, someone with access to the list

[dapper coral]

@teal wolf

#suggestions-posting message

[safe oasis]

the sound man has the sound weapon
interesting

[dapper coral]

do you like the idea of this sugg regarding face melter?

in the meanwhile i'ma exclam it

[keen leaf]

another thing though is hte poeple here tend to be nicer about this than the people on other servers i see. I've been in a lot of mod discords and asking for help in general here tends to get you helped, whereas in other places I've been in that are a lot bigger, you either get ignored, rudely told to RTFM, or occasionally given some helpful advice while being redirected to the help chat. Here, I mostly just see people answer the questions without redirecting the people asking. It still happens, but...
It might also be useful to have a distinct help channel for help with mod config / getting it to work type stuff, and help with gameplay stuff, cuz I've seen calamity mod talk get completely centered around someone's tech issues at least once before for a bit

[safe oasis]

or occasionally given some helpful advice while being redirected to the help chat
i dont see redirection as a problem at all

[grim tusk]

occasionally given some helpful advice while being redirected to the help chat
This is what should in theory happen as you could be disrupting a convo

It might also be useful to have a distinct help channel for help with mod config / getting it to work type stuff, and help with gameplay stuff, cuz I've seen calamity mod talk get completely centered around someone's tech issues at least once before for a bit
This is part of #help-advice-read-pins (and #bugs-read-pins for tech issues)

[eternal escarp]

^ yeah that

was aboutta day

[keen leaf]

the redirection isn't a problem, its a good thing.

[eternal escarp]

redirection happens less in this server, which is a bit bad

because people flood #calamity-mod-talk with "how do this" and "what to use"

[grim tusk]

And sometimes #general-media, #general-talk ans #calamity-update-talk

[keen leaf]

Bugs read pins is, as far as I can tell, about posting / investigating bugs, and while its related, the two kind of occupy different places in people's brains. Trying to get two mods to play nice together, for example, isn't necessarily a "bug" with calamity that needs to be reported.

[grim tusk]

Some trouble shooting sometimes happens in #bugs-read-pins occasionally

But yea its mostly bugs posting

[keen leaf]

Bugs-read-pins reads more like the bug reporting channel, rather than a dedicated tech-help channel, which i was noting as a tangent could be helpful for people.

yeah

[grim tusk]

And #help-advice-read-pins should indeed be the channel for tech help as well

[eternal escarp]

technically it should yes

thats part of the help

[keen leaf]

That's true, but people don't redirect there like they do on other servers from what i've seen

[eternal escarp]

its just that people only use it for "help with boss"

[keen leaf]

^

[eternal escarp]

thats the issue

so many people just answer is per say, caltalk instead of redirecting them to the help channel, by doing that more people think its fine to ask for help in caltalk

and then it just becomes harder to redirect

[keen leaf]

Right. My point with the big blob I originally posted is that its kind of ingrained into the community at this point, so if you want it to change something would have to happen to change their attitude about it 🤔

[eternal escarp]

the fact its ingrained into the community isnt good imo, because it causes alot of problems

it should be fixed, hence an idea od a caltalk 2

[safe oasis]

or just a help 2

[eternal escarp]

or giving more attention to redirecting

[eternal escarp]

that will help less, since people will still prolly use caltalk

[safe oasis]

but it also solves the issue of one person asking for help getting flooded by another asking for help

and the chat becomes a clusterfuck

of 4 people helping 3 at the same time

[eternal escarp]

i think a good idea is first of all, maybe making a little postit note on #server-announcements re-asking to use the channels correctly, but alot of people dont read anyways sadly

[keen leaf]

I'm thinking if there's a caltalk 2, either one's gonna get neglected, or they're both gonna be full with about half as much help requests and half as much conversations

[eternal escarp]

help and advice isnt hard to help multiple at once since you are almost always just being a broken record anyways tbf

you just spit out the answer you said about 9 messages ago more or less

[keen leaf]

help doesn't really get flooded enough for this to be necessary imo

[safe oasis]

it absolutely does

[keen leaf]

What is your definition of flooded

[eternal escarp]

the latter will still help making off topic discussions in other channels less frequent because less active channels make it better to move to incase of going off topic

[eternal escarp]

2 convos at once / a convo with about 8~ people makes a channel prty hard to use

[safe oasis]

going back to the cal talk 2 idea, having 2 channels serve the same purpose is a really bad idea imo

[fossil finch]

help and caltalk are active practically 24/7

[safe oasis]

one often gets left to shitposting while the other is used for its purpose

[eternal escarp]

one wont be left to shitposting if it can be moderated correctly

which is a variable on its own

[keen leaf]

Thats my issue with your 2 help channel idea, I think one of them is just gonna get neglected or ignored

[eternal escarp]

that the team will think of if the suggestion is to pass

[keen leaf]

unless they have some separating niches they fill

With proper moderation, this issue could be resolved on its own by having mods step in and curb advice conversations / etc and basically say "keep it out of this chat"

[fossil finch]

thing is that doesn't work if there's no chat to get it into

[eternal escarp]

well there is in the case of the "help me with" questions

[fossil finch]

yeah that's true

[eternal escarp]

there isnt in the case of "go to caltalk this is offtopic"

since caltalk is a rushing river, and diverting a conversation (which on itself is sometimes annoying(but obviously fair)) to caltalk is just too hard that most of the time people just stop the convo right after being asked to move

or they either just continue it

[keen leaf]

In my experience on other servers, usually the curtailing of a conversation onto another server happens either initially when a statement is made that doesn't it ("how beat desert scourge halp") or... not really at all, unless at some point someone stops and makes a very clear branching statement like "by the way / on that topic / also, i've been struggling with desert scourge, any advice?"

[heady storm]

This would do absolutely nothing yes.

[languid quartz]

[earnest cape]

the harsh truth

[heady storm]

If we have people who agree to our rules without actually reading them then you get the gist.

This simply would just do absolutely nothing.

[earnest cape]

unfortunately ye

[warm scarab]

why isnt there a green tick

[cobalt pewter]

It's not delivered yet then

[warm scarab]

my new sugg exists some time earlier
but there's already a sdummy sugg at that time

no comments? wow

[earnest cape]

good god

can you put counter scarf's full name please it can cause confusion

instead of just "counter"

[warm scarab]

oops

[ashen warren]

@warm scarab this is a REALLY good suggestion

wow

[warm scarab]

i made a mistake there lol

[ashen warren]

i really really like this

[warm scarab]

hueh

i have this idea for some time

i can try implementing it

[distant vault]

i wonder what happened to the other post about that that was posted not too long ago

(oh it was passed above)

didn't see that

incredible

[keen leaf]

setting stats for dummy would be pog

[ashen warren]

thats not a suggestion wtf

[cobalt pewter]

Factual tho

[safe oasis]

mm yes

[cobalt pewter]

[safe oasis]

you do indeed need bait to catch fish

how’d he know

[marble hazel]

How

[grim tusk]

@ashen warren

Did u press enter early or smth

[hollow shell]

You gotta have your topic line and reasoning in the same message

[ashen warren]

im not done

jeez

[marble hazel]

@ashen warren hey pardner please have your suggestion and reasoning in one message only to avoid confusing the bot

[hollow shell]

Best to send it all at once instead of piecemeal

[ashen warren]

ill edit lol

[grim tusk]

Use shift + enter to make em all stay in one message

[marble hazel]

oh

bokay

[ashen warren]

ok there

[safe oasis]

why does calamity need to fix that though

[ashen warren]

its a qol mod as well :p

[grim tusk]

crate potions

[marble hazel]

#suggestions-posting message channel bloat bad imo.. 2nd channel wouldnt fix said problems at all (the one wherep oepl go to gen talk and ask how to beat supreme calamity and etc.) i wouldnt say its breaking the do not be disruptive rule as people can just send 1 message redirecting them and getting on back to the convo, its happened lots of time and from experience it doesnt do much harm.. 2nd point is that i dont think cal talk is that flooded (to require a 2nd channel) from my time of being there, sure it gets flooded for about 10 minutes, but 10 minutes isnt enough basis to make a 2nd cal talk

[earnest cape]

TBEF why not ask mojang why you can get literal books by just throwing your rod

[marble hazel]

wtf is tbef

[earnest cape]

to be entirely fair

it's just game design

[ashen warren]

why cant we ask red why we get crates in such a way

[earnest cape]

my defense is it's just a game, it's not supposed to make the most sense

[hollow shell]

uhhh

I don't really understand what this suggestion is asking for

[earnest cape]

yea same

[hollow shell]

Cuz the title line is phrased like a statement instead of a request

[ashen warren]

you cant catch fish without bait

i said that right?

[hollow shell]

"you need bait to catch fish."
Are you saying that this is currently the case, and is a problem that needs fixing?
Or are you saying that this is the way it should be?

[safe oasis]

he’s just spitting out fun facts

very helpful tips

[marble hazel]

he's asking for bait only to be used for fish and something else other than bait to be used for non fish fishables

[golden narwhal]

smth like "Let fishing without bait still give you non-fish items"

[hollow shell]

If that is the case Tiki, it could be a lot clearer

[marble hazel]

yep it could

[ashen warren]

there happy

[hollow shell]

No

You still phrased it like a statement

[ashen warren]

what.

[hollow shell]

instead of a request

[earnest cape]

make the title a request instead of a statement

[ashen warren]

what do you mean!?

[hollow shell]

"Make it so you can catch non-fish without bait."
is a request

[golden narwhal]

"Let fishing without bait still give you non-fish items"

[earnest cape]

indeed

i am slow

[marble hazel]

oh

i misunderstood it

[hollow shell]

That is better Koob

[earnest cape]

happens

[warm scarab]

[tawny garden]

tf is a fishing magnet

[warm scarab]

ehhhhhhhhhhh

confusion

[terse jasper]

fishing with a pole warper

[earnest cape]

byeah

[warm scarab]

what

is that

[earnest cape]

fishing magnet

[tawny garden]

[true swift]

carefully, he's a hero

[earnest cape]

@cedar blaze check the pins

no balance suggs

(for now)

[heady storm]

^

[earnest cape]

i saw you mayonaissinator

[heady storm]

Race huh.

[earnest cape]

perhaps

and thank

[robust lava]

I was gonna write more, but tbf all it needed was a so it's good

[earnest cape]

[cedar blaze]

Aight

Just sayin

[earnest cape]

around that stage is getting rebalanced so yeah

cos funny ore retiering

[zenith hazel]

bot's down, notified amber

[earnest cape]

bot's been down a lot lately huh?

[zenith hazel]

shrug

[frail mantle]

it happens

[zenith hazel]

seems like it works now?

[tawny garden]

#suggestions-voting message this was reposted after you said this

[zenith hazel]

this was posted 9 minutes after I said this

amber fixed it during that period and notified me of the fix like 2 mins ago

[tawny garden]

m

[cobalt pewter]

At this point she probably put a hotkey on fixing bot

[tawny garden]

it's called a command

[pine star]

[robust lava]

@bold wave Brim already has a resprite planned. It just needs animation

[bold wave]

Bruh

[robust lava]

#mod-announcements message

[dapper coral]

#mod-announcements message

damn

[robust lava]

Not today

(ignore spoon)

(or maybe it will become part of the fight who knows)

[tawny garden]

(no)

[bold wave]

I'd honestly prefer a fork

[tawny garden]

trident

[gray nebula]

she will fight empty handed the spoon isn't a placeholder for anything else

[tawny garden]

[earnest cape]

Sadge

[ancient crow]

if its not a placeholder for some kind of staff, why does it even exist in the first place?

[hollow shell]

(big spoon was a meme at the time)

[robust lava]

to be precise, a comically large spoon

[whole sedge]

yeah it was kind of just funny factor™️ at the time

[earnest cape]

inside jokr

[slim karma]

So has anyone suggested the throwing weapons and related armor sets to be reworked and turned into rogue items/armor sets

[safe oasis]

no

its strictly said not to suggest that

[slim karma]

Yeah I saw that on the pins just now

[golden narwhal]

Also would become irrelevant in 1.4

[slim karma]

Lmao

Yeah it would

[earnest cape]

yeah when tmod 1.4 comes out in 69 years

[ashen warren]

69 funny number reddit wholesome 100 sus??? 😳

[slim karma]

My only problem with throwing and rogue being 2 separate things is that being throwing is part of the rogue progression

And until I read the pinned comment

I thought that they could just change the damage of the throwing weapons to rogue

So it would sync up

But meh

It is just a minor inconvenience that only applies to pre-slime god pre hardmode

[ashen warren]

E

[novel belfry]

I still honestly want Ninja Armor to have stealth

Ninjas are supposed to be stealthy.

[safe oasis]

and then it gets overshadowed completely because snow ruffian exists

[novel belfry]

ik but still

just

I just want it

[slim karma]

Snow ruffian is worse than ninja

[safe oasis]

its also made by basic snow biome blocks

[slim karma]

Yeah it is still decent I will admit

[cobalt pewter]

Ninja Armor being properly rogue can be nice

[ashen warren]

I’d like Ninja rogue armor

[cobalt pewter]

But did they change Fossil?

[safe oasis]

no

[cobalt pewter]

If not, then Ninja has no chance

[slim karma]

Yeah they didn’t

[safe oasis]

throwing still boosts rogue, just not the other way around iirc

[cobalt pewter]

No stealth

[safe oasis]

so kinda technically yes?

[cobalt pewter]

[slim karma]

I am doing a rogue playthrough rn with some people from this discord

[safe oasis]

stealth moment

imagine

[slim karma]

And I am kinda stuck

[cobalt pewter]

Go for Snow Ruffian

[safe oasis]

(kinda off topic for this channel)

[slim karma]

Yeah let us move

To #help-advice-read-pins

[tawny garden]

clean posting™️ again pog

[earnest cape]

extremely cursed

[safe oasis]

thanks for reminding me to ruin it philo

(current is repost of <#suggestions-voting message>)

[earnest cape]

[hollow shell]

I like it as a sprite but, yeah, Terraria inventory squishing does it dirty

[safe oasis]

another hote matt sugg

[cobalt pewter]

Tell me what conditions you unironically can use either Chaos or Cryo Stones on

[earnest cape]

mmyes chaos stone

the only other mhage accessory besides sigil and ethereal talisman

[tawny garden]

If you're mentally handicapped

[cobalt pewter]

[tired haven]

#suggestions-voting message that's cool and all, but 1) you can't really catch anything like crates with a fishing rod in first place, bait or not, and 2) it will destroy the balance 🙃

(makes for a funny thought how fish carries the crates on its back and when you try to catch it, you grapple on a crate instead)

or perhaps the crates are actually a fish species?

[earnest cape]

crabber alives

[earnest cape]

:perhaps:

[eternal escarp]

okay, why does it need to?

is it just because "itd be cool"

i assume this means insta kill people on godmode because you brought uo deathmode

but why should dog instakill people on godmode, just because of his name?

[thorn bobcat]

yes it would be cool

[eternal escarp]

itd be cool isnt a real reason tbh

[thorn bobcat]

ok

[eternal escarp]

you should prolly get a better reason if you really want this, and if it has no reason to happen, sometimes it shouldnt happen

[teal wolf]

Huh what I just noticed I got pinged

[earnest cape]

#suggestions-discussion message

[tawny garden]

The sugg was already killed by the bot

[teal wolf]

Wait what was the suggestion

[tawny garden]

They were suggestong a change to your donator item

[eternal escarp]

changing the sound to the EtG gun iirc

[teal wolf]

I wish but it ain’t possible lol

[tawny garden]

Ah

[teal wolf]

I guess I should’ve said something about changing my name and stuff since I’ve been awol

The answer to the question is yes I’d love it but I don’t know if it’d be possible

[eternal escarp]

well, dunno who suggested it to begin with tbh

wouldve pinged them rn

[teal wolf]

Idk one of the higher ups pinged me to ask whether it was ok, and my answer is thatd be tight as fuck to have it with the etg sounds

[eternal escarp]

hm

[teal wolf]

Idk I was just confused since I’ve not been in the server for a while

So for someone to ping me

[eternal escarp]

yeah i know that feeling lol

[frozen hornet]

DoG already insta-kills you even with god mode on(at least the cheat sheet Gmode,I haven't tested it with other Gmode mods)

[frail mantle]

only in death mode but yes

because he doesn't deal damage to kill you, he just uses codery shitfuck to unalive you

[muted osprey]

then unshitfuck the code

[frail mantle]

no

[tawny garden]

[muted osprey]

if a giant, powerful, almost-god eating worm, and it charged into you headfirst, logically you would be eaten and die

[warm scarab]

he deals damage alright

he just use player.killme method b4 dealing damage in d mode

[muted osprey]

I kinda want to make a suggestion about TPE

to change it from shooting boolet to shooting plague bees

[eternal escarp]

ping even then, the sugg had no real reason to exist

not everything has to be lore accurate

[muted osprey]

so that 1) plague hive can be used more and 2) remove need to farm for boolet

[eternal escarp]

also itd be annoying for people who use godmode to test but then get instakilled more often then not using godmode

[muted osprey]

but yeah DoG instakill cring

tho border infernadoes are worse

[frail mantle]

Yes that’s what I said

[muted osprey]

why couldn't they just put arena blocks 😔

[frail mantle]

He doesn’t kill you through damage, he kills you through code magic

[muted osprey]

(unmagics the code)

[frail mantle]

For all it matters he could be dealing 1 damage with his head and it would still kill you instantly in Death mode

[frozen hornet]

Boss Rush too

Not that I like it byea

[eternal escarp]

yeah but he will stop instakilling on deathmode anyways

and i think it affects BR too?

[frozen hornet]

Hopefully

[tawny garden]

Which is why the head bypasses Invincible

So even lul won't protect you

Fun fact

[muted osprey]

what about border infernadoes

[tawny garden]

Same thing

[prisma flicker]

theres fishing rod for a reason

[tranquil perch]

@safe oasis didnt you alr sugg this

[earnest cape]

#suggestions-discussion message

[ashen warren]

whats the old effect again? i dont use that set

[earnest cape]

@pastel terrace its already being done as hardmode ores are being retiered at that stage

[pastel terrace]

it is???

[earnest cape]

Or at least can a dev confirm?

[pastel terrace]

Also wdym retired?

[earnest cape]

Mythril being post 1 mech, adamantite being post 2 mechs

Etc

[pastel terrace]

Oh!

[earnest cape]

Anyhow @zenith hazel is adamantite getting a new set bonus next update?

[ashen warren]

:'D

[cyan lagoon]

Adamantite maybe

We are definitely buffing cobalt and mythril

[earnest cape]

[tawny garden]

in that case it's fine to suggest

[earnest cape]

And btw isnt the last part of the sugg going kinda SIS

[bleak sentinel]

yeah all the ore armors are getting new buffs iir

c

[cyan lagoon]

A revivial effect is a hard no

[fossil finch]

yeah unneeded and those setbonus look kinda op

[bleak sentinel]

revive mid hardmode

[earnest cape]

Indeed permafrosts's concoction exists anyway

[cyan lagoon]

Titanium is technically not getting touched but now shadow dodge is part of the universal dodge counter

[tawny garden]

specific, but those are examples

[fossil finch]

totally fine i swear
just double your life :

[cyan lagoon]

So its technically a slight nerf

[fossil finch]

that stops you, has a really long cooldown, and you will probably die anyways

[earnest cape]

Alright tephen

[pastel terrace]

So should I remove the last part on my sugg?

[tawny garden]

yeah

or make it less specific

[pastel terrace]

Better?

[tawny garden]

[warm scarab]

@pastel terrace shadow dodge got nerfed to the fucking ground that it doesn't exist now

[cobalt pewter]

Isn't Adamantite getting a proper set bonus in 1.5?

[eternal escarp]

isnt this a dont?

[heady storm]

It is yes.

[eternal escarp]

yeah it is, found it

took me a bit

[heady storm]

@tidal sluice above.

[tidal sluice]

i meant it isnt a material

its just useless still

[heady storm]

Mhm.

[frail mantle]

Also isn’t the Rock becoming place able next update or am I misremembering

Ye it is

[cyan lagoon]

We should make it so if you place it you get a stone back if you use a tool to break it

But alas

[frail mantle]

So it can actually function as a proper Boss Rush trophy

[tidal sluice]

but

eating the rock is funny

lol

[eternal escarp]

it already is

[cobalt pewter]

Suggestions isn't the place for this, but I shall ask Ben

[tawny garden]

@dreamy fjord "because it would be haha funny" is not a valid reason

[dreamy fjord]

yes it is

comedic value is still value and it improves peoples enjoyment of the mod

[tawny garden]

read the doc in the pins

for the purposes of this suggestion system, it's not

@dapper coral ❗ it pls

[dapper coral]

yeet

[tawny garden]

[zenith hazel]

honestly, we could remove auric toilet and nobody would give a shit

pun intended

[tawny garden]

the normal toilet would still exist 🙃

[dapper coral]

i feel like there would be public outrage

[tawny garden]

people would bitch about it for 2 weeks and then forget

[pine star]

yeah

Why does Auric Toilet even exist?

[ashen finch]

The gods couldn't anymore

[radiant meadow]

Because I thought it would be a funny meme item

[pine star]

YOU DID IT?

[radiant meadow]

And it had a sprite

[ashen finch]

I mean honestly I don't see an issue with the toilet

[pine star]

YOU WERE THE ONE TO PUT IT IN?

Well that's unexpected

[radiant meadow]

🤫

[ashen finch]

The man, the myth, the legend

[radiant meadow]

Who did you think it was?

Ozz surely wouldn't do it

[tawny garden]

Fab would

[pine star]

Maybe Brav?

Or Pixl

[radiant meadow]

Not a programmer

[pine star]

oh

[hollow shell]

@dreamy fjord Your reason could explain why using the word "throne" would be more fitting or funny than just saying "used"
Cuz your proposal is not that much more funny than current, so just citing comedy in itself doesn't really work

[tranquil perch]

Rover trying to give constructive criticism on a suggestion to change a specific part of a tooltip from a joke item

[pine star]

[tawny garden]

[hollow shell]

Hey, it was Calamity who added the joke item in the first place

We gotta deal with its existence now

[tawny garden]

[hollow shell]

( )

[pine star]

[ashen finch]

I mean, if it's referred to as "the throne of the gods" then that has a double-meaning

[dreamy fjord]

well you see its wordplay as "porcelain throne" is sometimes used to refer to a toilet

and its "used by the gods"

thus, "throne of the gods"
its funny

smh my head rover

[hollow shell]

Indeed

But you don't say that in your sugg

[ashen finch]

one being the obvious shitty joke (not sorry about this joke ), the other implying the image of an actual throne

[hollow shell]

"used by the gods" is equally haha funny because it implies the gods take shits

[dreamy fjord]

there i fixed the suggestion

also obviously the gods take shits

[ashen finch]

well why do you think Platypuses exist?

[hollow shell]

(I think you meant to type "refer to a toilet")

[dreamy fjord]

ok fixed it

also yeah obviously the gods take shits

origin story of the flare gun

[hollow shell]

Aight well the reason is better now

Also that'll be coming in 1.4 when we actually get the ability to sit on objects @keen zodiac

No reason to implement that now

[keen zodiac]

ooo very excited

[dreamy fjord]

so like did i fix the issue on my suggestion

because it would 100% improve the mod

[tawny garden]

[dreamy fjord]

it would be the best update to ever be added

[hollow shell]

Yeah I was gonna say
Unsure if it's worthy of losing the ❗

and these responses right now are not helping

[tawny garden]

[dreamy fjord]

i mean yes i may be exaggerating a LITTLE on the 100% mod improvement bit

but it would be haha funny

everyone loves haha funny jokes

[tawny garden]

satire is subjective

[hollow shell]

I mean yeah I can see the value of doing the funny comedy with the comedy item

I'm mostly concerned with the sugg's wording still

iunno, I'm split on it

[dreamy fjord]

ok i can make it more serious

[tawny garden]

please do

[dreamy fjord]

there it no longer includes the phrase "haha funny"

[hollow shell]

Okay that's better

[dreamy fjord]

also i still really want auric tesla furniture

pretty sure since all demonshade items are dedicated to people we will never be graced by the glorious demonshade furniture set

but auric tesla is possible right???

[hollow shell]

Yeah it is possible

Oh you suggested it a year ago

[dreamy fjord]

yeah im still hoping for it

itll never happen probably but i will wait forever if i get fancy furniture to waste tons of resources on

[hollow shell]

It did get approved when it was suggested a long time ago

Hasn't gotten delivered on any resuggestions though

[frozen hornet]

Time to do another auric tesla related aesthetic sugg

[tawny garden]

8 Abyss suggs

[cobalt pewter]

God

[crystal iron]

Ik the sugg has already been discussed but how exactly is it still valid, I mean, the only reason is " because it would be funny"

[ashen finch]

I mean the the item itself is a joke iirc

[crystal iron]

Oh

[ashen finch]

and in light of 1.4's Terra Toilet...

[crystal iron]

Oh

[safe oasis]

@agile bolt remove the : from sugg title, otherwise great sugg

[hollow shell]

Yeah this looks fine

We gotta give more people reasons to farm

considering Calamity really tries its damndest to give you alternatives to farming..

[sleek turret]

gardening is cool

[agile bolt]

thanks

I really love doing plantation farms but i hate having to plant the seeds back. It feels so smooth running at the speed of lightning and still being able to harvest the plants but when it comes time to plant the actual seeds i always find myself taking the boots and dash abilities away since even if you go at a walking speed you are moving too fast so you still end up having to slowly move at a snails pace and tap the movement keys when you're doing it

When walking speed is still too fast that's usually a big red flag that there is a problem that should be looked into

[tired haven]

Now I wonder if the seeds placement can be universally detected by code so we could get an item that dramatically speeds up placing them and only them

[safe oasis]

or just make them sped up normally without the need for an arbitrary item that has one purpose

[pine star]

Hello

[tawny garden]

I might look into it

[sharp prism]

there's nothing that dictates if its a seed iirc

[sleek turret]

i actually have seen various seed farms by using methods such as dart traps and not using planter boxes (using the respective tiles for seeds ofc)

[tawny garden]

other than it being a seed