suggestions-discussion

[tawny garden]

[earnest cape]

But.... true melee....

[hollow shell]

@Testers
Do the big funny balance check

(when you can)

[heady storm]

(We cannot, unless it is all Post-ML.)

[earnest cape]

Sadge

[rotund tree]

https://gyazo.com/765c7c17f1ac180406d85c876e847128

[earnest cape]

Funny adrenaline right click

[rotund tree]

aegis blade

[hollow shell]

(Old gif?)

[rotund tree]

not really old

[hollow shell]

It's before AD got the split tho right

[earnest cape]

This year?

[rotund tree]

just aegis blade + adrenaline against deus

[warm scarab]

i got that melt speed with only rage

[rotund tree]

a month ago

[warm scarab]

this is a balanced mod

[hollow shell]

Oh huh
Doesn't the split give them invincibility?

[earnest cape]

BUT ITS TRUE MELEE

Fuckjng

Caps

[tawny garden]

...and?

[rotund tree]

no that's during p2

it's just cropped so you don't see the 2nd health bar

[hollow shell]

Oh I see

I guess I didn't put together that the split worms would have full health

[earnest cape]

Considering how hard it is to get close for most bosses that stage and the damage they deal its a pretty big deal

AND not to mention its a legendary

[tawny garden]

it's still not supposed to be fuck shit op

[rotund tree]

also that was supposed to be a legit nohit attempt

[earnest cape]

/shrug

[tawny garden]

[warm scarab]

^

[tawny garden]

what

[hollow shell]

"when one of us go to nurse"
Here's your problem.

You're cheesing him

[earnest cape]

what

Oh yeah multiplayer targetting

[tawny garden]

I'm having troubles with understanding the premise of this sugg

[frail mantle]

i believe the devs already know about aegis blade Deus memery

from the amount of times it's been posted in cmt i'd assume so, at least

[hollow shell]

@atomic sonnet Teleporting to the nurse mid-fight is what we call a cheese strategy

[earnest cape]

@atomic sonnet stop running away from yharon and try getting closer to him

And yea

[hollow shell]

Yharon's music already has a really big range
Should play as long as you're in the arena bounds

[tawny garden]

ah, you got out of the zone of his music

ahhhhhhhh

[earnest cape]

I can confirm, yharon's music range is huge

[warm scarab]

sorry what's a nurse?
||never kept mine alive so my friends can't cheese||

[atomic sonnet]

We're just playing for fun,and its just a suggestion

[hollow shell]

byeah

s'just not a necessary change because it only applies when you're doing something that is unintended

[atomic sonnet]

Sounds fair

[warm scarab]

well um i think that sugg can't be possible

[hollow shell]

Global music is prolly possible

[tawny garden]

"oh that's cheese" isn't something that invalidates a suggestion

[earnest cape]

Yes it can its just unnecessary

[hollow shell]

Just make the music range absurdly huge

[warm scarab]

because music can't be global unless you make some fucked up 2k lines long code
i have that problem with vanilla as well

[earnest cape]

Music range being 32bit int limit

[warm scarab]

yes

large world exist

[hollow shell]

Well if we wanna count cheese as being still fine for a sugg

[warm scarab]

unless you do something similar to tmusic player

[tawny garden]

fuck large worlds

[hollow shell]

This suggestion shouldn't just be for Yharon

It should be for all bosses

[earnest cape]

Ye

[warm scarab]

his problem is when one of the players in a mp world gets out of range the music resets

so cheese isn't a problem

you can get out of range

[earnest cape]

Cheese is the root of the problem lol

[warm scarab]

bruh

[earnest cape]

It happened cause they went out far to heal for the nurse

[warm scarab]

DoG's weird mp targetting can also make you go out of range

[earnest cape]

Dont play mp

[warm scarab]

[earnest cape]

And i was talking about yharon

[warm scarab]

good sugg

[warm scarab]

that's cheese' problem

[tawny garden]

"fuck multiplayer"

[warm scarab]

^

[tawny garden]

similar to "fuck mobile"

[earnest cape]

I agree, fuck mobile

[tawny garden]

wish I had nitro to post that emote

[hollow shell]

Is there a "Fuck Mobile" emote

[earnest cape]

Yes actually

[tawny garden]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/795397018062422029.png?v=1

[hollow shell]

Good

[tawny garden]

this

[earnest cape]

:FUCK_MOBILE:

[hollow shell]

Particularly funny because that's my ""cute"" pfp a friend made
And it's being used
for such aggression

[tawny garden]

[earnest cape]

[hollow shell]

But uh yeah
Do we think this sugg should be edited to encompass all bosses?

Or no

[tawny garden]

yea

[earnest cape]

I have no objections

[hollow shell]

@atomic sonnet ^ consider

[tawny garden]

"Consider the Following"

[hollow shell]

[Bill Nye nodding and thinking heavy]

[earnest cape]

[atomic sonnet]

Done

[bitter drift]

@atomic sonnet yes it's worng
it's wrong to use the nurse in a boss fight!

[crude geode]

oh how brutal 🙄

[atomic sonnet]

Soo..why?

[crude geode]

This also happens very frequently with DoG in multiplayer

Even if you’re not using cheese, you really wanna spread out to give some focus and wiggle room, and you’re incredibly likely to be out of the range of the music.

[bitter drift]

true

it happened to me once or twice (no cheesing and alone)

[crude geode]

I can see it being annoying if someone if farming King Slime in the cavern layer for souls but even then you can just lower your music to zero

[cobalt pewter]

I don't think Aegis Blade needs nerf

At most Deus just needs a resist on it

It's already having relatively small size compared to other melee broadswords around its tier

[earnest cape]

do we count omniblade

[cobalt pewter]

Omniblade is funky

[tawny garden]

omniblade has a great hitbox

[cobalt pewter]

Also wtf melee speed softcap

Deus is the only really problematic boss with Aegis Blade left click tbh iirc imo afaik

[pine star]

These videos are very old

Also @still cobalt Go to #calamity-mod-talk

For this

[still cobalt]

thanks!

[cobalt pewter]

I just realized Raider's Talisman rework has been suggested for 5 times in suggbot's lifetime

[tawny garden]

8 Abyss suggs

[hot zephyr]

I've been suggesting it before suggbot existed

[sharp prism]

[cobalt pewter]

I didn't scroll beyond suggbot ye

But none of those in suggbot times got delivered at all

Society

[warm scarab]

don't kill me for the sugg

[tawny garden]

holy shit

[sharp prism]

i don wana reasd this

[tawny garden]

not much reason in it

[cobalt pewter]

What in the living

[tawny garden]

(also the image is kinda )

[distant gyro]

it's also very (VERY) specific

[warm scarab]

lmfao

[distant gyro]

farming ❗ streaks continue

[tawny garden]

we will

[distant gyro]

[tawny garden]

(:

[cobalt pewter]

Also post-ML rebalance is disregarded in sugg system, and Celestus SS rework is planned

[tawny garden]

[warm scarab]

ok imma delete

[cobalt pewter]

And it's specific

[warm scarab]

but i still have the sugg about celestus

bruh i forgot about cd

[tawny garden]

all balancing is kinda disregarded

though it's not a don't

[cobalt pewter]

Ah ye

I said that because pML is the focus on rebalance atm

[tawny garden]

ye

[heady storm]

[tawny garden]

we kinda did

[cobalt pewter]

Mans out here farming ❗

Jesus

[warm scarab]

golem buff sugg

[tawny garden]

not like there were 256 of those already

lolem was already buffed

didn't work

[warm scarab]

it's not really a buff

just making his lasers have a purpose

spread more

Allow Golem's lasers to spread more or remove the extra lasers and thicken the laser golem shoots

currently the lasers that the head/body shoots make no difference than shooting a single laser, since they spread very little the extra laser make almost no difference.
making the lasers have more spread not only makes it actually harder to dodge(no more mindless circling ig?) and makes the second laser have some purpose, as well as buffing golem a bit indirectly

while waiting for cd i'd post it here first

[tawny garden]

waiting for cd

[warm scarab]

ye

[tawny garden]

oh, cooldown

[warm scarab]

[tawny garden]

CD is Cool Dude

[cobalt pewter]

Mfw cool dude

[warm scarab]

[tawny garden]

[safe oasis]

singe they spread
typo

[warm scarab]

moment

[hot zephyr]

Cold Divinity*

[tawny garden]

oh yeah

[warm scarab]

[tawny garden]

time to get the infamous Cold Divinity role

[warm scarab]

10 secs left

[tawny garden]

liftoff?

[warm scarab]

posted

[safe oasis]

wheres the reasoning

[tawny garden]

there's a bit

it's kinda smol tho

[crystal iron]

Ye Im currently editing it

[tawny garden]

[crystal iron]

Idk if that's any better but thats all I could come up with for now

[zealous ridge]

funny idea: have their stats scale with your health in different ways

like how actual SG does it

crimulian goes faster horizontally and ebon jumps higher

very stupid idea but maybe something to play off of lol

otherwise, good suggestion

(you dont need to add that)

[crystal iron]

I was also thinking, maybe if you use both of them together, it would also summon a mini slime god core that would buff the slimes every now and then

Similar to yours actually

Your idea*

[zealous ridge]

okay, thats a fun idea as well, i would almost be happy if they were just made into one summon that was the mini slimegod core

something like dragonblood disgorger

honestly id be super happy with that

just one big slime god core and two bigger slime demigods

and the core can empower one of the two periodically

[crystal iron]

That'd be epic

[zealous ridge]

(can we get this????)

if you want you could add that to the suggestion

not specifically, but like

[crystal iron]

I might actually do that if I can actually put it into words

[zealous ridge]

"make the staves different, or combine them into one summon weapon"

arrange it like, "see the problem with corro and crim is that theyre both the same summon and they dont do anything besides what the slime staff already does

there are two solutions, make them more interesting and distinct from each other, or combine them into one, more interesting summon"

[crystal iron]

Ok I'll do that now

[distant gyro]

slime god drops are weird

[zealous ridge]

theyre all pretty wacky

slime god was something like the third boss added to the mod

[distant gyro]

(first boss iirc)

[zealous ridge]

a really early one, at least

really? i had thought desert scourge and dog technically predated

maybe it was the first

[distant gyro]

anyway, the 3-slime-fiesta came out a while later

byeah

Overloaded Blaster looks like something out of the Statigel set

[silk lynx]

They should add in another slime boss!

[zealous ridge]

nope

[silk lynx]

why not?

[zealous ridge]

im already mad about the worms, mostly

i dont think we need more slime bosses

its an awkward boss design

[silk lynx]

but there are only two...

[zealous ridge]

yeah

i think its enough imo

[silk lynx]

OOO'

[distant gyro]

The Abyssal/Eldritch & Crimslime/Corroslime look like something to drop from the small blob rather than the core itself

[zealous ridge]

hmm

[distant gyro]

three counting queen btw

[silk lynx]

They could make one of the poast Scal bosses summon a slime as a helper like Providence does with the profaned guardians!

[zealous ridge]

(i was assuming we were talking in calamity terms, which slime god could count as 2 slime bosses, but as 1 boss encounter)

they also dont have the ai of slimes

[distant gyro]

the second appearance of weird slime god moment is the gel darts

also something out of a statigel set, but a banditware

[zealous ridge]

i think gel darts are fine as bandit sells

but a lot of sgs drops in general are just weird

overloaded blaster looks like a purified gel item but its not, it acutally drops from the boss iirc

(that might have been changed, actually?)

[crystal iron]

I think it's crafted iirc

[distant gyro]

imo both Overloaded Blaster and Gel Darts out of place for how it looks

when they're SG drop and Bandit wares respectively

[zealous ridge]

the statigel color scheme doesnt look much at all SG related

[distant gyro]

they use the static refiner palette which is reserved for purified gel, rather than corrupted slimy looks

I think the idea is that SG is corrupted and after you beat it you turn it into purified weaponry (aka statigel)

So what it drops is ideally corrupted (?)

[fossil finch]

statigel is kinda a whole other set of stuff yeah
megapallete moment

[distant gyro]

even with this in mind, there's clearly a gap for Statigel weaponry (2 melee 2 ranger) and SG drops (1 ranged 2 mage 1 summon essentially lol)

this is sacrificed for the more-relevant post-SG series of "Night's/Carnage weapon"

[fossil finch]

themed stations is fine

for the sky mill example: it's not even an addition, just using a vanilla station

refiner also makes furniture, and this is a global for all of the furniture's in calamity, so using it to also make statigel stuff makes sense and doesn't tear apart the craftings of a theme

[safe oasis]

still kind of bloats crafting space since theres no reason for it to also be used for armor

[distant gyro]

I think that's fine based on precedence alone

[safe oasis]

all other themed crafting stations are furniture only

[distant gyro]

Most crafting stations in Terraria are "bloated" on the basis of solely furniture production

or something incredibly specific

[safe oasis]

well just because its in vanilla doesnt mean its not a problem

im more speaking of the fact that its required for armor and gear

in addition to decoration

[distant gyro]

Bone Welder, Glass Kiln, Flesh Cloning Vat, Sky Mill, Living Loom, Solidifer, Ice Machine, Lihzahrd Furnace, Steampunk Boiler

[fossil finch]

outside of space, it is not really a problem
And both sky mill and refinator are crafteable, and nothing that requires you to get out of your way really

[distant gyro]

"Something-incredibly-specific stations" include Cooking Pot, Dye Vat, Autohammer, Imbuing Station, Keg, Blend-O-Matic, and Meat Grinder

-- you get the point

[fossil finch]

thematic crafting stations is fine imo
Doesn't make much sense everything is just made on boring anvil when you could be more creative with that
Convenience isn't always best

[distant gyro]

Actually, I didn't like the Static Refiner/Sky Mill idea as much even though it made sense

[safe oasis]

none of those are required to make armor and weapons

which is the main point of the sugg

[distant gyro]

When you make all the furniture crafted at a high traffic station ie.anvil, you're able to fill up a ton of crafting slots just for those furniture alone

[fossil finch]

anyways i play with magic storage and have 2 mods that get fused stations so this does not affect me

[distant gyro]

False, Autohammer is required to make Shroomite armor (via bars), once and never again

[silk lynx]

and duke fishron summon

[safe oasis]

fuck shroomite its not real

[distant gyro]

You should specify btw

I had an impression that the suggestion was "fuck all the furniture crafting stations, they bloat, remove em"

[tawny garden]

[distant gyro]

rather than "these furniture crafting stations are blantantly intended for furniture, don't make people use them for something else"

[safe oasis]

so just reword it?

[distant gyro]

yes

[safe oasis]

alr

[tranquil perch]

• Do try to discuss your suggestions with others before posting it, rather than editing it as feedback comes. It would help refine the process as a whole and make a things a lot easier

So uh

Buff slots

They're flawed

[tawny garden]

what's wrong

[tranquil perch]

Buff slots are in theory a good idea, but way too many things that aren't buffs take up buff slots
Notable cases are: pets, light pets debuffs, buffs from accesories (ie frozen turtle shell effect), cooldowns, minions, cirrus' candles

[safe oasis]

cirrus candles are technically buffs

[tranquil perch]

Yes but they take 4 buff slots

4

[eternal escarp]

well they all do diffrent things

so i would say candles are fine

[safe oasis]

yeah, otherwise continue

[tranquil perch]

Also i discussed earlier with psychic, "overbuffing" isn't much of a thing, since there already are other limits like alcohol poisoning, holy wrath disabling wrath, cadance disabling regen

[fossil finch]

your point is integrate lan's unlimited buff slots into calamity or what

[tawny garden]

it's still sort of a thing

[tranquil perch]

If you had buff slots to spare, you could use revivify and that's really about it

Flippers and shine will do no good in a bossfight, which is when you use a lot of buffs

Also boss zen shouldn't take up a buff slot

Disabling enemy spawns doesn't need you to make a buff, caltester and heros prove it

[fossil finch]

but, what's the suggestion

[tranquil perch]

Raise/Fix buff slots

[fossil finch]

valid it is, i personally agree

[dapper coral]

fix would be the better option imo

because raising is already covered by lan's

[distant gyro]

uncanny territory time

[silk lynx]

I like you suggestoin

[frozen storm]

Um

[dapper coral]

hm

[frozen storm]

I think they made it cuz dividing drops from abyss and Sulphuric Sea

[silk lynx]

Solution B

[heady storm]

So basically revert back to how the pots worked originally.

[distant gyro]

reject modernity, return to potte

[frozen storm]

gosh i remember when one of these dropped 4 of them

[tranquil perch]

Solution C: make all treasure in a stack open at once, but reduce the stack size

[heady storm]

Honestly not against it.

[frozen storm]

Go to hell

Break hell pots

[heady storm]

Okay but does that actually relate right now.

[dapper coral]

get ready for 17 days of lag

[tranquil perch]

What

[sharp prism]

[tranquil perch]

By reducing stack size i mean like

20-40

Per stack

[dapper coral]

oh stack size

i thought you just meant how many dropped

[distant gyro]

I still think regardless of what happens just fuck the loot table

Why do you get a random assortment of 15 something potions

[tranquil perch]

How else am i supposed to get my very important spelunker glowsticks

[safe oasis]

skele merchant

[distant gyro]

and spelunker glowsticks, amazing

[tranquil perch]

And sticky glowsticks

Wait what's the abyssal treasure loot table

[sharp prism]

and glowsticks

smh

[safe oasis]

glowsticks and that one food item

all that matters

[tranquil perch]

Hadal stew

[tawny garden]

Nothing really useful

[safe oasis]

its prehm lifeforce which is ok

[tranquil perch]

Options are useful wym

[distant gyro]

healing pot, glowstick, bomb, jester arrows --> hadal stew, spelunker glowstick, sticky dynamite, hellfire arrows

[tranquil perch]

Jester arrow

Bru

[distant gyro]

sulphuric and abyssal respectively

[tranquil perch]

Sticky dynamite

Bruv

Wait

Is the loot table that small

Or is it the reduced loot table

[safe oasis]

it cannot be that small

[distant gyro]

nah, I ommited the 14 potions you can get

[tawny garden]

[tranquil perch]

Don't

[tawny garden]

14 potions

[tranquil perch]

Instead of fucking heartreach, why not give potions that are useful in the abyss

[distant gyro]

I mean from one abyssal treasure you can get nothing but 1 silver 1 copper

which is fuckin useless

[tranquil perch]

Like shine, gills

[safe oasis]

it has anehoic coating

[tranquil perch]

Instead of fucking obsidian skin as well

[safe oasis]

as for the current sugg, seems valid, nothing wrong with it

[tranquil perch]

Altix can you just paste an image from the loot tables here, i can't do that im at my cellphone

[safe oasis]

we're going off topic rn

[tawny garden]

wh

[sharp prism]

😡

[tawny garden]

first of all, the last paragraph is unnecessary

[ancient mirage]

can you even sit on stuff in tmodloader

[eternal escarp]

not yet

[sharp prism]

No

lmao

[tawny garden]

second of all, sitting on chairs is a 1.4 feature

@void oak

[eternal escarp]

basically this suggestion should be suggested when calamity transfers to 1.4, which will happen after 1.4 tmod poofs into living ig

[tawny garden]

tML Stable is still 1.3.5.3

[void oak]

Ohh

Sorry

I got used to 1.4

Maybe for 1.4 calamity??

[tawny garden]

no

[void oak]

Dangit

[tawny garden]

future content suggs aren't allowed

[eternal escarp]

suggest it if it doesnt happen when 1.4 calamity is already a thing basically

[tawny garden]

(and I bet it's going to be done anyway)

[eternal escarp]

yeah

[void oak]

Yess

Poggers

Hype

Thank u

[eternal escarp]

hype for sitting? you must be fucking tired

[sharp prism]

though ti not counting as a chair is kinda

weird

[void oak]

Yea

[eternal escarp]

you can sit on toilets so, eh

[sleek turret]

toilets on terraria counts as chairs.

[void oak]

That's why

[eternal escarp]

well you sit on toilets IRL too, i hope

[sleek turret]

and even some things like Bewitching Table are counted as furniture for NPCs.

[eternal escarp]

byeah anyways

[void oak]

-You're telling me you dont stand while pooping?-

[eternal escarp]

you can prolly remove the suggestion

[void oak]

Will do

[tawny garden]

no, I shit standing up

[eternal escarp]

since its basically just future content that is 95%~ happening

[eternal escarp]

shitting? i just sit on toilets for the sake of sitting

[void oak]

Must be a typo

[tawny garden]

is your dining room full of toilets instead of chairs?

offtopic

[void oak]

Yep

Alright

I'm in aisa I'm supposed to sleep rn

[tawny garden]

anyway YashuPi you should prolly remove the sugg

[void oak]

Goodbye

Did it

[tawny garden]

[void oak]

[eternal escarp]

#suggestions-posting message dont suggestions like these need testers? or was it already discussed and stuff

[tawny garden]

curretly they're focusing on Post-Moon Lord

so they can't test it

[eternal escarp]

oh yeah, true

well, only time ive seen aegis blade shread is, well

https://gyazo.com/765c7c17f1ac180406d85c876e847128

[fossil finch]

:the gif:

[sand umbra]

isn't Aegis Blade also a legendary wep

[tawny garden]

yes

but how does that change things

[ashen warren]

I just had this idea to add sound waves whenever yharon roars, like the waves that are produced whenever you destroy a celestial pillar's force field. It's just a cosmetic thing though.

[cerulean estuary]

I suppose his roars are attack cues so it could serve as allowing a person playing without sound for whatever reason to still have those cues

giving it a purpose besides "I think it'd be cool"

[hollow shell]

@safe oasis Your top line can be worded better. As-is it sounds like you're asking us to remove crafting stations, when really you're asking for non-furniture crafts to be moved from themed crafting stations (which are normally only used for furniture) to more common stations

[crude geode]

To be quite honest I can understand aerospec requiring it’s furniture station, as you need the blocks to make the gear.

[hot zephyr]

tbh I kinda like it as-is

It makes the stations useful

[cobalt pewter]

What green spear

[dreamy citrus]

Holy spear attack

The Undyne looking peices of-

[glass sentinel]

there arent green ones

right?

[fossil finch]

they are not green, just a shade of ???

[glass sentinel]

yea there arent green spears

[fossil finch]

they are also directly fired at the player, so you could just fucking stand on a safe spot between the pattern and get free heals

[dreamy citrus]

hold on

[crude geode]

You’re thinking of the fires

Oh wait

What green spears what

[fossil finch]

they are not even it's own sprite

[golden narwhal]

The ones directly fired at you during cocoon

[dreamy citrus]

Yes those

[glass sentinel]

night provi has greenish-white ones

[fossil finch]

nvm flames also aren't this makes 0 sense shut me up

point is

[cobalt pewter]

Hm

[fossil finch]

They are
-not green
-it would be dumb anyways

they are directly fired at you

[cobalt pewter]

You'd get free heals by standing in the stream

Which is dumb

[fossil finch]

while the other pattern is super easy to safe spot

yeah

[dreamy citrus]

True... they're hard to avoid though

[glass sentinel]

Yyes

[dreamy citrus]

and that is objective fact

[glass sentinel]

thats the point

[tawny garden]

avoid or perish

[dreamy citrus]

I don't like their movement patterns and how they stutter

[fossil finch]

if you made them healing the attack would be both easy af to avoid, and free heals

[dreamy citrus]

Inconsistent and i despise ite

[dreamy citrus]

What about that orbs attack where she cocoons up and fires a bullet hell

uh, Grimm pufferfish attack

[glass sentinel]

wait so this is a 'the attack is too hard for me so i want the devs to change it' sugg

[fossil finch]

their stuttering is fine, it's a warn tbh
you may not be able to difference the colors, or the fact they work differently

[hollow shell]

Wait what, there are green spears in the fight?

[tawny garden]

no

[glass sentinel]

no

[tawny garden]

just that some look kinda green

[glass sentinel]

there are just greenish white ones at night

[hollow shell]

Suggestion should prolly be reworded then

[fossil finch]

That requires active dodging all the time, even with the heals most of the times you've got to go to the green stars, they don't come at you

[tawny garden]

somehow

[glass sentinel]

yeah you cant stand still for provi

[dreamy citrus]

Ok yeah I get that but I don't like how predictable yet unpredictable those projectlies are

[fossil finch]

they are fired towards you and are painly slow

[crude geode]

Would you prefer old provi bullet hells, which were complete fuckin rng?

[hollow shell]

Keep your distance and keep trying, you'll get a handle on the pattern

[tawny garden]

RNG

[fossil finch]

one barrage is directed towards the player, is slower and has a different color

[tawny garden]

destroying nohits

[glass sentinel]

old provi was still a great fight

[dreamy citrus]

the slowest projectlie in Providence's arsenal is somehow the best

[glass sentinel]

dont diss

[crude geode]

“I dislike this attack, Nerf it.”

[dreamy citrus]

Thats pretty much it

[glass sentinel]

then thats a no sugg

bc we like it

[dreamy citrus]

and I hate how accurate that statement is

[glass sentinel]

its a fun and cool attack

just like learn how to dodge it

[tawny garden]

it's valid, it's just not likely to go anywhere

[dreamy citrus]

its cool, yes, but like the Belmonts, fun does not entail cool

[glass sentinel]

wait so this is a 'the attack is too hard for me so i want the devs to change it' sugg
like i said

[glass sentinel]

its valid, i mean like its not a very good one

[dreamy citrus]

hmm, true

[crude geode]

Provi’s healing stars make up for the fact that the flames do like 200 damage flat.

[dreamy citrus]

I'm probably gonna write another suggestion that isn't so much of nerf this attack because its so broken also piss u

[cobalt pewter]

You can probably facetank the spears if you know what you're doing

But you can't do that with stars

Best you can do is doubling your facetank lifetime with Blood Pact

[crude geode]

Bc stars are quirky and do a flat damage number that can happen every second

[cobalt pewter]

Stars just ignore iframes, so you can crash into multiple at once and

die

[fossil finch]

negative healing is
pog?

[glass sentinel]

no kb is pog

[crude geode]

Fuck you melee!
If you’re dumb enough to buy a new tank build this weekend, you’re a big enough schmuck to come to Big Provi’s Hell Stars!

[sleek turret]

uhhhh

[cobalt pewter]

The image isn't needed at all

[tawny garden]

the latest sugg needs a reason

[cobalt pewter]

Also yes

[sleek turret]

thats uhh

[radiant meadow]

@dreamy citrus Please don't attach images that have no correlation to the suggestion.

[sleek turret]

meme on an acceptable suggestion.

[dreamy citrus]

Ohh. Ok. But I mean he eats a lemon and cries because its sour

[tawny garden]

tbh both suggs need a reason

cause both of them don't have any

[radiant meadow]

You can repost the suggestion without the image in a few minutes when the slowmode cooldown is finished.

[glass sentinel]

uh?

[dreamy citrus]

Ok. First suggestion is because I was complaning

second one is purley for visuals

like what xyquad posted

[glass sentinel]

what does grimm baby have to do with this

[dreamy citrus]

because hes cute

[radiant meadow]

(It's not relevant)

[glass sentinel]

so?

[cobalt rose]

[crude geode]

Not relevant.

[dreamy citrus]

Yeah ok thats not revelent

[glass sentinel]

god thats a beautiful emote

[radiant meadow]

I'll just delete the sugg now (so people quit complaining in here)

hold this

Make the dash color of Counter Scarf and Evasion Scarf depend on the dye
You know that red thing that trails behind you after dashing? Yeah, that. I would like it to change color depending on the dye you are wearing. Things like shadow dye and nightmare dye would alter the color of that red trail.

[hollow shell]

(I see now the green spears they were talkin about
Taken from vidie)

The sugg won't work like at all, cuz of the function the "green" spears currently serve

Defo should be reworded in some way
like "add an occasional healing spear to Providence's spear bullet hell" "because it is strange that only one of the two cocoon bullet hells gives you the ability to heal"

Asking for the current green spears to heal you would be bad
Because the current green spears are the ones that aim right towards you

That phase would be a guaranteed full-heal

[cobalt pewter]

....yes

[crude geode]

That is indeed why this sugg is awful

Can you exclaim it Cuz right now that would be such a balancing fail

[cobalt pewter]

It was already exclaimed?

Now it lost one

[hollow shell]

Alright

[pine star]

Always good

And honestly, I want to see a weapon that gets most of its damage from debuffs

[hollow shell]

There are two

Stardust Cell and Shellfish

and probably also Daybreak and some Venom weps, as they got stacking DoTs

[cobalt pewter]

I think Lionfish is the best example of that iirc

[crude geode]

That's like saying summon weapons get all their damage from buffs tbfh. It's not like shellfish does damage outside of it's debuff really.

[cobalt pewter]

Actually Snap Clams also deal dmg mostly from debuffs

[hollow shell]

What are you trying to say, Cursed?

Are you agreeing or...?

[crude geode]

I’m saying that like there’s no real function to Shellfish staff outside of it’s debuff. It’s not like it does any damage or anything, you need the debuff in order to do damage iirc

It’s not like wand of sparking which does do a slight bit of damage outside of applying burning, at least I think so

[hollow shell]

Yeah that's

.. ok

[crude geode]

yee, it's okay, it's just like...weird to me to say "most of it's damage" when it's all of it's damage

[hollow shell]

byeah regardless
This is an old suggestion that is no less valid today

DoTs be weak

[molten quest]

I always thought that DoTs were weak to compensate for the thing applying them having pretty good damage-

[hot zephyr]

I like how the Helstorm is a reference to a Borderlands 2 weapon known for it's busted-tier levels of fire damage... but it inflicts a 4 DPS DoT

[cobalt pewter]

[molten quest]

[cobalt pewter]

Shouldn't that go into #bugs-read-pins ?

@hollow shell wdyt

[hollow shell]

Sounds like a bug yeah @warm scarab
That is, if the crystals never stop firing even after a good amount of time has passed

[earnest cape]

Provi just wants to distribute her crystals

[hollow shell]

Cuz night Prov is indeed supposed to fire crystals very quickly, it's just that she fires em very quickly then stops for a bit

[warm scarab]

it never stops

i personally think it's a feature

[earnest cape]

@ mayonnaisonator we got you a job

i probably spelt that wrong

[bitter drift]

good morning.
i got a suggestion idea but i am not sure if it's a spesific item suggestion or not, so can you tell me if it will be allowed or not?

my idea is a rouge accessory that allows you to preform more then one stealth strike with only one stealth meter charge

[hollow shell]

We kinda already have that

[earnest cape]

there's an accessory that lets you only use half your stealth

[hollow shell]

Coin of Deceit, and its upgrades

[bitter drift]

no we don't

[tawny garden]

red accessory

[hollow shell]

Notably Relic of Ruin

sorry

[earnest cape]

and still do a stealth strike

[hollow shell]

Ruin Medallion

Ruin Medallion and its upgrades let you do 2 stealth strikes per full meter of stealth

[bitter drift]

it consumes 50% of the stealth right
but not allows for a 2th stealth strike one after the other

[hollow shell]

It do

[earnest cape]

it do

[hollow shell]

It changes the requirement for a stealth strike to be 50% stealth, as well as making it so stealth strikes only consume half

[earnest cape]

yeh

[hollow shell]

So, ye. We got that

[bitter drift]

then i guess i didn't see that some how?

[earnest cape]

yes

perhaps

[hollow shell]

The confusion is understandable

[bitter drift]

i using these items now but it doesn't do that

[hollow shell]

You can ask that their tooltips be made more clear, if you want

[tawny garden]

(btw @bitter drift, to answer your original question, if we didn't have such an accessory, it would not be a SIS)

but it exists already so

[hollow shell]

Yeah you could have suggested that without it being a SIS, if you had the reasoning to back it up

[bitter drift]

ok thanks for letting me know

[earnest cape]

yeah just don't get too spe- I don't think I need to mention this

[tawny garden]

[earnest cape]

"just don't get too specific with the sugg"

[tawny garden]

[bitter drift]

[tawny garden]

"just don't get too speedy" came to my mind earlier

[earnest cape]

[tawny garden]

didn't you sugg smth like that not too long ago

[safe oasis]

you are allowed to resuggest if you think timing is the issue

[crude geode]

Yes, but actually no

[safe oasis]

or something like that

[crude geode]

I posted it, but didn't let it go into voting bc of timing.

[earnest cape]

unfortunate

[cobalt pewter]

Ruin Medallion and its upgrades allow you to SS twice per bar yes

[tawny garden]

ah

[earnest cape]

no I won't make the joke

[crude geode]

Like three people posted like in two hours and I usually don't like that to happen

[tawny garden]

what a misfortune

[cobalt pewter]

I heard that's being moved to Coin of Deceit, and Ruin will get a new unique thingy mayhaps

[earnest cape]

hage

[tawny garden]

sod it, the joke is happening anyway

[earnest cape]

byeck

about the envorimental sugg, wouldn't it be just a little bit more annoying than it already is to counter the hot and cold

you mentioned frost barrier but due to the difficulty of obtaining it I think most people will just get it when you need it for auric armor endgame

[crude geode]

You can buy it from the traveling merchant at a decent rate, which is why I point it out.

[safe oasis]

i always get like frost barrier really early on wdym

[earnest cape]

it requires extreme luck

[crude geode]

Additionally, it completely shuts down the heat and cold mechanics once hardmode starts.

Actually, it's even easier to obtain once hardmode starts. As long as you have a traveling merchant and cosmolight, you can trigger the full moon needed to buy it.

[earnest cape]

i thought you can't cheese travelling merchant sales with cosmolight

[crude geode]

You might be thinking of his stock. It doesn't reset with cosmolight, but cosmolight does trigger the full moon, which is what causes him to sell Frost Barrier.

[earnest cape]

ah

mb

[crude geode]

mhm

[crude geode]

not sure what you mean by this btw

[earnest cape]

before I say anything do the warmth/obsidian skin potions just negate all hot and cold effects

I can't remember too well

[safe oasis]

obsidian skin does for heat, warmth does for cold

[cobalt pewter]

yes

[earnest cape]

ah so assuming your sugg gets implemented and it will scale like how abyss does with the deeper you go or in this case with progression, wouldn't it get pretty annoying as heat/warmth protection items getting pretty scarce

[crude geode]

Depends on how it's implemented. As is, it's currently just an on/off switch that you flip by putting on or off a immunity item. I would prefer that to be changed.

[earnest cape]

ah

sorry if I'm not saying anything i find it hard to find what to say

[crude geode]

also, there's 14 things that give you complete immunity to all effects currently. Some of them are more late game, but a generous amount are available at the end of hardmode, in addition to the other specific heat/cold resist things.

[earnest cape]

I'll go see what they are

[crude geode]

keep in mind I left out encased bc...that one is really really awful.

[earnest cape]

oh permafrost's concoction

[crude geode]

yeah

[earnest cape]

anyhow haha yes only 2 prehm accessories to get complete immunity

there's not a lot of items for cold protection eh?

[tawny garden]

wait a fucking millisecond
#suggestions-voting message
did all of us have a brainfart or smth
this is a large-scale rework

[earnest cape]

[eternal escarp]

the worldgen thing?

[tawny garden]

yeah

it's asking for like

[eternal escarp]

dicksord on mobile doesnt show messages correctly

[tawny garden]

~large structures

[eternal escarp]

well

[earnest cape]

welp it got sent to the dev server

[eternal escarp]

its passed the star requirement

ye

[tawny garden]

mmmhm

[eternal escarp]

i mean, if it does get accepted thatll be neat tbf

[tawny garden]

I won't be surprized if it stays as ✅

[eternal escarp]

yeah same

[tawny garden]

cause our checks and balances system seems to have failed

for the first time

[crude geode]

Not for the first time in any way.

[earnest cape]

it's failed a few times lately

[safe oasis]

im pretty sure people brought it up but it was mostly ignored

[eternal escarp]

eh

its not life ending

[tawny garden]

yeah

[eternal escarp]

just a minor inconvenience for dev server prolly

we make this a bigger deal then it should

[tawny garden]

just that a don't was delivered

which I haven't seen before

[tawny garden]

I am*

[eternal escarp]

then you are fully to blame

[tawny garden]

[eternal escarp]

case closed

[crude geode]

Technically it’s 3. Magma armor, frost barrier, magma stone. Cuz iirc magma stone is pre-hm.

[earnest cape]

oh yeah I forgot about that armor

and yeah it's

[crude geode]

Ye

[earnest cape]

my

three key isnt working

[crude geode]

Weird

[earnest cape]

byeah

[safe oasis]

have you tried pressing it

[earnest cape]

[crude geode]

Good point I’m definitely sure they haven’t

[earnest cape]

what do you think I've been doing

[safe oasis]

clicking it

[earnest cape]

anyhow

getting these are pretty hard

[tawny garden]

turn it off and on again

[earnest cape]

how does one "turn it off"

[safe oasis]

removing the switch from the keyboard

obviously

[tawny garden]

hm

buffing the current environmental dangers and making them scale
isn't scaling ?

[warm scarab]

yes

[crude geode]

Weapon scaling is cringe yeah. Have not heard anything about scaling in general being bad.

[warm scarab]

my sugg on darts

[crude geode]

Campfire, Hand Warmer, Inferno and Warmth (which are all pretty easily obtainable) give you 4x cold immunity, and are all avaliable Pre-HM

[earnest cape]

i wonder if enviromental stuff counts

[crude geode]

Ah yes my favorite item, hostile spiky bushes

[earnest cape]

[warm scarab]

[earnest cape]

hostile spiky bushes hahayes

[warm scarab]

[earnest cape]

also do we count standing in front of a wall

[warm scarab]

[earnest cape]

and funnily enough the eskimo vanities also give cold protection

[warm scarab]

walls just kill d mode enviromental effects

[tawny garden]

I was talking in a general sense

[warm scarab]

[earnest cape]

hmm

prolly?

[tawny garden]

not just about dont's

[earnest cape]

oh in general then it would probably be (?)

how did I make a typo of w and b

[tawny garden]

brain

[crude geode]

Wacky

[tawny garden]

or, should I say

wrain

[earnest cape]

.

[tawny garden]

[earnest cape]

perish

[warm scarab]

[crude geode]

Byech offtopic.

[earnest cape]

anyhow

just for clarification

or Duke Fishron summoning a larger version of his Sharknado from the water.
does this mean the cthulhunadoes that spawns while it's raining in the ocean

[warm scarab]

:hmm:

[earnest cape]

if yes then that would be ungodly annoyance

[warm scarab]

lmao

[earnest cape]

anyway I don't really have anything else to say about the sugg

[frail mantle]

aren't the cthulhunadoes from the death mode ocean rain the same ones from fishron's second phase

[earnest cape]

yes

[hasty ingot]

After a small mishap with another channel, I'm posting my suggestion here.

I think that projectiles shot by the Perforator Hive should go through blocks. It's far too easy to cheese the boss in any given mode with a semi-decent armour set {i.e. Gold/Platinum Armour} and an umbrella of blocks above you, essentially negating any dangers of the Hive, while facetanking any worms that spawn.

[warm scarab]

the thing is you can choose to not put blocks

[hasty ingot]

..I'm well aware of that, but putting blocks really shouldn't be an option.

[tawny garden]

I mean

[cobalt pewter]

Creative Shock in perf fight

[tawny garden]

if they wanted it, they would've fixed it already

[crude geode]

It's an incredibly simple method of cheese tbfh, but the worms do still pose a threat. The largest one deals 100 damage in deathmode, meaning you can take at most 4 hits before dying.

[tawny garden]

it's an easy fix

but you can post the sugg anyway, see what happens

[hasty ingot]

I do think that the Perf hive's projectiles should be difficulty-locked to rev+

[distant gyro]

perforator is a weird boss

[tawny garden]

sure is

[hasty ingot]

Wait, that came out wrong-

[distant gyro]

if you fight underground contact is the only issue because projectiles get instantly deleted

[hasty ingot]

I think my suggestion should be difficulty-locked to rev+

[distant gyro]

if you fight on the surface with a large pit the worms do nothing and you can hold attack to delete them

[fossil finch]

weren't projectiles already block trespassing on death anyways before

[hasty ingot]

I just think that the Perforators should be a more difficult boss.

[fossil finch]

that was removed for some reason

[distant gyro]

however, it's still an early phm boss and basically none pose enough threats until SG

[crude geode]

it's very easy to cheese perfs, meanwhile hive mind is muuuuch less vulnerable to cheese.

[tawny garden]

(Slime God is also eazy but that's another story)

[distant gyro]

hive mind is less vulnerable but it's also easier to just push around

you can take 15 hits and still win the fight

[hasty ingot]

I think that because of cheese and where both bosses lie, Perforator Hive's projectiles, at least in rev+, should be able to pass through blocks. To make fighting it underground and overground a more difficult, but more exciting fight.

[cobalt pewter]

If you want underground proj cheese to die, you'd also need to kill surface worm cheese

[cobalt pewter]

Basically this

[tawny garden]

one at a time is better

[distant gyro]

I think it's interesting having the option to kill either or

but both is just too much

[tawny garden]

cuz you might end up not fixing surface worm cheese at all

[cobalt pewter]

Tbf the proj one might be simpler to do

Byeah

[hasty ingot]

I think that killing the proj one is both simpler and more effective because it still makes those projectiles more deadly while killing the worms as well.

[crude geode]

Is this really that bad of a thing? You can also take like 15 hits in the SCal fight and still win.

[cobalt pewter]

mfw hitcap doesn't exist anymore

[pine star]

[tawny garden]

shut up

with your hitcap

[distant gyro]

it's not, but it puts the difficulty into perspective

[cobalt pewter]

Byeah Fearmonger + Bloodflare Core is prime tankin' for scal

[distant gyro]

even while fighting underground I always have found perf to be the harder of the bunch

[cobalt pewter]

I don't think I ever fought HiiH MiiM underground

It's always more free to fight it on surface

[hasty ingot]

As well as that, after facetanking a worm, it's far too easy to sit under some blocks with a campfire and be completely safe, to regen all of your health.

[distant gyro]

doesn't burning blood disable regen

[tawny garden]

tfw never fought Hive Mind at all

[crude geode]

Bleeding also gets applied.

[hasty ingot]

Yes, but those debuffs do go away.

[noble turret]

facetanking underground

[crude geode]

Yeah but like...I doubt your i-frames last long enough.

especially if you facetank.

[hasty ingot]

I've cheesed the perfs enough times to know i-frames definitely last long enough and the whole thing with it is to NEVER be exposed and not under blocks.

[crude geode]

also if you have burning blood you lose 4 health a second so like you would need some pretty high regen to counteract that.

[hasty ingot]

Campfire lantern band of regen

But hey. That's just my suggestion.

I think that, at least in Revengeance Mode or greater, the Perforator Hive's projectiles should trespass blocks.

[tawny garden]

(if you wish, post it in #suggestions-posting)

(with appropriate formatting, etc.)

[hasty ingot]

Yep!

[sharp prism]

uh

@solar sun you have to give reasoning as to why

and this may be a dont?

[gray nebula]

yeah because its related to yours truly

Also calamity vanities is planning on adding someething like that already w my permission so yea

[radiant meadow]

make it official then

[sharp prism]

every single time with a fucking vanity sugg

[tawny garden]

uh @zenith hazel

funy sugg

[round ravine]

@solar sun Could you explain your suggestion?

[tawny garden]

they seem to have ding dong ditched

[round ravine]

Of course...

[warm scarab]

[solar sun]

my apologies, its done now.

[warm scarab]

cal vanities moment

[tawny garden]

still not really an argument

"I think it would be cool"

[radiant meadow]

Exactly what would you say for vanity then besides "it's cool" or a "missed opportunity"?

[tawny garden]

fair

[halcyon dagger]

do yall think deus needs a buff?

[tawny garden]

no

[cobalt pewter]

Uhhhh

[eternal escarp]

#suggestions-posting message it is the literal tutorial boss

i dont think its supposed to be hard

[cerulean estuary]

It doesnt need to be hard

[cobalt pewter]

It's less of a buff and more of making the phase 2 more unique to me

Also king slime buff is a don't iirc

[cerulean estuary]

But rev fight shouldn't be completely identical to expert in movement to fight it

[tawny garden]

not a don't

cuz it was amended by Rover

several months ago

[halcyon dagger]

if you want ks harder

[cobalt pewter]

Ah

[halcyon dagger]

enable eternity mode

[eternal escarp]

idk then, but i still agree with whats said in that paragraph

its the literal first boss, i dont think its supposed to really impose too big of a challenge

[cerulean estuary]

It's not about difficulty it's about not being the same fight

Rev eye is one of my favorite bosses

Because it's rev additions breaks the funny run away strat without being too difficult

[distant gyro]

yeah that's not a don't I think

because that restriction is there doesn't mean the boss is completely immune to all suggestions because hehe too hard

[tawny garden]

they're asking for a change in rev

[cerulean estuary]

The change could be as much as forcing to player to jump occasionally, just something to make the rev fight more than just expert fight but flashier

[eternal escarp]

fair

[distant gyro]

I still think hive mind still needs a buff in normal mode, if you have ever seen it before

[tranquil perch]

Cocoon spears are to dodge when providence is in front of you since they always go counterclockwise

[fossil finch]

making ks be less no brainer would be cool yeah

[knotty moat]

hive mind needs a buff in normal mode

whats normal mode

[mystic cloak]

Lol normal mode

[knotty moat]

[fossil finch]

normal mode more like not getting good mobility up until fucking plantera

[knotty moat]

normal mode more like why even play calamity

[fossil finch]

ye

[knotty moat]

like if you havent beat terraria in expert you should not play a big mod

[ashen warren]

revengeance should be the default difficulty for beginners

[sleek turret]

thats is like saying to some new Doom begginer to play on Ultra-Violence/Nightmare! before playing it on Hurt Me Plenty or the easiest ones.

[ashen warren]

ultra violence is the casual difficulty deal with it

[fossil finch]

thing is people playing calamity shouldn't be terraria begginners tbh

and it's not like difficulties in doom are capable of locking you out of content

[heady storm]

Wait what.

You do know shadowspec is reserved for devs right?

[ashen warren]

Have you looked at the stats of Triactis' hammer?

[dapper coral]

would the easier solution not be to nerf the hammer instead

instead of adding new items

[heady storm]

Asking for more weapons with higher damage basically breaks this, and yeah. ^

[ashen warren]

At least im trying

To think of something

[zenith hazel]

also, using triactis as an example when scarlet devil is in the same tier with 4x the base damage

[ashen warren]

At least im here
At least im trying to think of a good idea

[heady storm]

Well you see, you need to compose great suggestions that also abide by what you cannot suggest.

[ashen warren]

The pins have so many rules i cant even suggest scythe type weapons

[heady storm]

Yes, but that does not mean it is impossible to suggest anything.

[whole sedge]

in fact it's kind of the opposite of the rules are there to bring more variety to suggestions and make better sugs but

[ashen warren]

I tried suggesting a corrupted eye vanity, only to find out there is a vanilla item that can make a players eye change in vanity slot
I tried suggesting a weapon, it was specific
I tried suggesting abilities, they were too powerful

[heady storm]

All of those qualify as stuff you cannot suggest, yes.

[zenith hazel]

then read the suggestion don'ts doc carefully

it shouldn't be hard, and it isn't

[ashen warren]

Like weapon animations for melee should be overhauled i guess

I read the docs again

;';

;-;

[eternal escarp]

i mean

i dont really see a reason why this needs to happen tbf, atleast i dont personally

[tawny garden]

ironically, "I will edit this suggestion if anything is wrong" shouldn't be in the sugg

[eternal escarp]

^ that too yeah

remove that part

[ashen warren]

AGH, the excalibur only swings up to down like its gonna do a finishing blow!!!

[eternal escarp]

like, uh

[whole sedge]

..?

[eternal escarp]

basically every sword in terraria

[ashen warren]

Maybe in the mod the swords could swing left and right, THEN it can do its normal animation

[eternal escarp]

thats uh

whats the point?

[whole sedge]

why calamity though?

[golden narwhal]

I don't see a reason in this, probably need to add one

[sleek turret]

hmm

[eternal escarp]

yeah theres really not a good reason for this imo

[sleek turret]

but first, its actually even posible to even add an animation to a vanilla sword on tmod?

[fossil finch]

that'd also be more fitting on a mod that overall changes how swords attack lol

it is

maybe

idk

[eternal escarp]

theres UseAnimation i believe, so yeah think so

[golden narwhal]

(Also could specify what specific kinds of weapons should get an animation)

[eternal escarp]

its diffrent from UseTime iirc

so it might be possible to change weapon speed

but like

why?

[whole sedge]

It's possible but yeah why should calamity do this instead of like Terraria Overhaul or whatever

[eternal escarp]

it just makes the hitbox inconsistant

you swing, but hitbox appears at its own pace

[ashen warren]

This is the 7th-8th-9th-10-do i even know time i have made multiple mistakes in a suggestion

Im at the point where i feel like there are too many rules for a single suggestion

Its so hard to make a good suggestion

[zenith hazel]

not really

[eternal escarp]

judging by the amount of suggestions in #suggestions-voting

[fossil finch]

i mean, you can see other's suggs

[sleek turret]

its not hard.

[wooden wedge]

a good sugg isnt bound by the rules

[eternal escarp]

dont force yourself to make a suggestion if you cant get a good one that doesnt cross a "dont"

[golden narwhal]

It's really just

1. Find a problem in-game
2. Write it up with the correct formatting

[wooden wedge]

its bound by 🧠

[ashen warren]

And rules too

Again

[sleek turret]

That's what I did on Torrential Tear not dropping from Abyssal Crates.

"not dropping" wording feels more like a bug.

"make it drop" is more of a suggestion.

[ashen warren]

And i had another idea in mind of "add a story mode for calamity" but it would take way too long but i just wanted the lore to become major in a specific mode, now i scraped that off my plate

But i didnt post it on #suggestions-posting

[eternal escarp]

JE will exist whenever 1.4 comes

do thatll do it for yah prolly

kinda?

unless you mean like

[fossil finch]

story mode already exists

called playing the game

(yeah uh)

[eternal escarp]

yeah basically

[ashen warren]

lore is scattered

[zenith hazel]

don’t suggest high effort things

[ashen warren]

I said i scrapped it

[zenith hazel]

and don’t suggest things for the sake of suggesting

[eternal escarp]

lore is scattered to make it more interesting imo

[eternal escarp]

and yeah ^ this

[zenith hazel]

think how it would benefit people

[sleek turret]

Isn't lore getting rewrited by mrrp anyways?

[eternal escarp]

yeah

afaik

[zenith hazel]

while also being straightforward

look at others’ suggestions

[ashen warren]

I get my ideas by playing other games

No wonder why its so hard to suggest

[zenith hazel]

...because you’re playing other games

terraria doesn’t work like other games

[ashen warren]

Isnt suggesting also creativity?

[zenith hazel]

you can’t just suggest “oh let’s give the terrarian an x buster and make him shoot things and also make him walljump because I got inspired by megaman x”

that’s not how it works

you can be creative, but getting ideas from other games is not usually realistic enough to implement into terraria

[ashen warren]

Now lore effects are removed, so whats the point of getting lore drops

[eternal escarp]

..for the lore