suggestions-discussion

[cobalt pewter]

Having OD facing where he thinks he'll go is nice enough

[golden narwhal]

Reject Brimmy's telegraph, Moon Lord's telegraph is better iirc

[earnest cape]

[crude geode]

[ancient crow]

[cobalt pewter]

Cease chain

In any case

ML's eye telegraph works because its segments are literally eyes

[crude geode]

Yet it barely works because of the fact that being near Moon Lord is a one way ticket to death

[earnest cape]

i wonder why

[ancient crow]

ML beam doesn't really need much of a telegraph though, it never spawns on the player so you have plenty of time to dodge or rod through it

brimmy is fought A) much earlier on B) in a more cramped space C) usually without rod

[earnest cape]

that would just proove ml needing a telegraph more no?

[crude geode]

usually without rod

[earnest cape]

a boss way before him has a telegraph for practically the same attack yet ml doesn't have one

tho(at least in rev) i found that ml slows down when charging

[golden narwhal]

ML has a telegraph for all his attacks

[earnest cape]

afaik his attacks are in a set pattern

[ancient crow]

ML laser specifically spawns not on the player rather than trying to home like the brim laser tho

thats why it doesn't really need a telegraph, the beam is the telegraph

[cobalt pewter]

I'm quite sure the sugg talks about the Phantasmal Bolts

The ones shot from all 3 eyes

[earnest cape]

the eye stares at you before shooting

[distant vault]

Wow, amazing telegraph!!

[cobalt pewter]

Deathray is like, kinda timing at this point

For most

[cerulean estuary]

Deathray is having boss healthbar so you can know when it opens without having ml on-screen

[heady storm]

I can deliver suggestions now, have fun otherwise.

[languid quartz]

chetto

you should be ghost

smh

congrats on full tester again tho

[hot zephyr]

Gg.

[hollow shell]

Epic

[earnest cape]

suffer more work

[tawny garden]

Yey

[hollow shell]

Congratz 👏

[tawny garden]

[languid quartz]

chetto flexing CD reaction perms on us

smh

[earnest cape]

[hot zephyr]

You don't need CD to react

You just need to try harder

[languid quartz]

mod?

or admin

[eternal escarp]

no, just try harder

[hot zephyr]

observe

flavor test

[hollow shell]

Focus your efforts

Use your willpower

[hot zephyr]

See look

It's just really small

[hollow shell]

And you can achieve greatness

[hot zephyr]

Rover, do you have a telescope I could borrow

[earnest cape]

Ascension.

[hollow shell]

Yeah see? You're getting there

uhh sure

🔭

[hot zephyr]

See look

You can see the reaction

[languid quartz]

[hot zephyr]

no CD required

[tawny garden]

Oh good

Actual sugg

[hot zephyr]

Short and sweet

That's all you need

[tawny garden]

So that the offtopic ends

[earnest cape]

finally I can rest assured we won't get killed

[hollow shell]

This is a fine suggestion.

It is short but quite understandable

[earnest cape]

yeh

[languid quartz]

good sugg

[marble hazel]

sugg with only one sentence?!?!?!

[hot zephyr]

[hollow shell]

See: Any Post-ML boss massacring your entire town if they get within 5 miles of it

[languid quartz]

I have a clip somewhere

I basically summoned scal above my house in my rev pt

[hot zephyr]

death

[languid quartz]

and all of my npcs got fucking slaughtered

[tawny garden]

Just fucking make them invincible

Unless you yourself want to kill them

[hot zephyr]

It'd be nice if that after a certain point, NPCs getting hit would drop to 1 hp instead of getting killed and would get some kinda shield that prevented them from dying but also they wouldn't be able to be interacted with

[languid quartz]

unless it's the guide

fuck him

[tawny garden]

Or the painter

[earnest cape]

kill ben shapiro

[eternal escarp]

but then NPC drops

[earnest cape]

don't take that out of context

[hot zephyr]

No, no

It doesn't need context

[earnest cape]

terror

[hot zephyr]

Rover, I'm assuming suggestions on how to handle emote suggestions are no bueno as of now, right?

[marble hazel]

all your NPCs dying when a post ml boss shoots 1 bullet in their direction

[hot zephyr]

I think I've got a solution to make them mesh better with the sugg system

[tawny garden]

There is already a talk about it, Ian

So that would be a future content sugg

[hot zephyr]

I know

[tawny garden]

[hot zephyr]

I hate that technicality, Philo

[earnest cape]

lmfao

amazing

[tawny garden]

Cry about it

[hot zephyr]

I might just, Philo, I might just

[marble hazel]

also about my sugg being short i just felt like i didnt need to add anything more since the point comes through fine

[hot zephyr]

That's just fine, Tiki

[languid quartz]

ye it sounds good

[earnest cape]

yeah it's fine

[hot zephyr]

No need to justify

[tawny garden]

Don't add water

[marble hazel]

to pizza

[tawny garden]

FUCK YOU

[earnest cape]

[marble hazel]

:]

[frail mantle]

[hollow shell]

Uh what are you planning on suggesting, Ian?

[hot zephyr]

Replacing the blanket ban on emote suggestions with new rules that're more strict on emote suggestions that'd solve many of the gripes people had with the prior system

namely, their size, and the frequency of them.

Basic idea being that when embeding an emote, it'd have to be the 256x256 compressed version Discord generates and not the far larger sizes that're usually posted along with limiting emote suggestions to a one a month thing to limit the sheer number of them

Hopefully setting a blanket "limit" on them would also encourage people to "spend" their only emote suggestion for that month on something more meaningful than a generic image, etc

[hollow shell]

I mean, limiting the size will help yeah
But that wasn't the only reason afaik. It was also the fact that they were a rule grey-area in that they're memes and almost never have good reasoning
And the fact that they almost always start some kind of argument in this channel when they get posted

[hot zephyr]

The arguing is the fault of #suggestions-discussion, not the emote itself tbh

[marble hazel]

to 🐝 fair the argument part was more on people just had a hateboner on emote suggs

[hot zephyr]

Most of the reactions here have been way too drastic

[tawny garden]

The problem with emote suggs was that they were brainlets

[hot zephyr]

Literally only like three people were frequent emote suggestors

[frail mantle]

yea i noticed that the only people who bothered to suggest emotes were regulars

[hot zephyr]

and funnily enough, the only people who got mad about emote suggestions... were regulars

[safe oasis]

well yeah the only people that come here are regulars

[tawny garden]

Because people from the outside didn't know of the possibility if sugging an emote

I guess

[earnest cape]

some people sometimes randomly come just to shit on emote suggs too

[hot zephyr]

To me I see the emote ban as an unnecessary "don't"

Emote suggestions were only abused because they existed in a grey area

Actually putting some rules on them would push them out of the grey area

[tawny garden]

It was necessary to stop me from stirring up fights about them

[safe oasis]

a separate channel for them would solve that problem much better

[hot zephyr]

That's your problem

[safe oasis]

but that request was already denied iirc

[frail mantle]

separate channel would end up feeling like channel bloat, i'd say

[hot zephyr]

A second channel is unnecessary

Emote suggestions were barely suggested as is

[earnest cape]

second channel wouldn't make any difference

imo

[frail mantle]

especially since we already have three suggestion channels

[hot zephyr]

The only reason we're talking about them is that every time they'd cause fighting

[tawny garden]

Thing is
The last time emotes were suggested it was a meme sugg which made its way into voting with Chetto's help

[hot zephyr]

Which one again

[marble hazel]

yeah that was 1 mistake doe

[hot zephyr]

It's been a hot minute

[marble hazel]

aleksh

[earnest cape]

and

[tawny garden]

Yeah

[hot zephyr]

That's a different issue though

[hollow shell]

mm
The associated image was a barely readable MS paint thing

[cosmic roost]

They're amazing

[tawny garden]

With a reason of "y ye yeye"

[hot zephyr]

There really isn't a reason for mods to approve suggestions early

[crude geode]

A decent amount of the emotes barely had any reasoning to them tbfh, which is why I disliked them.

[tawny garden]

They still did

[cosmic roost]

Emote suggestion channels on other servers do tend to just be random memes that dont really work as emotes at all

[hot zephyr]

I'm saying it's an issue that's independent to emote suggestions

[tawny garden]

It was only an issue with emote suggs

No other suggs were approved early

[hollow shell]

We have an excessive quantity of emotes that convey some variety of frustration, confusion, or judgement
And people still tried to suggest more emotes of that variety

[crude geode]

Mhm

[hot zephyr]

Do they usually hit 140

[tawny garden]

Yes

[marble hazel]

lets see, there was 1 meme sugg, that got approved, which to be honest was a flaw on chetto's bias, dont think thats a solid reason to kill emote sugg

[hot zephyr]

Then we raise the star cap on emote suggs

[hollow shell]

Was it you who suggested that parrot "huh"?

Or was it some rando

[hot zephyr]

Nope

It was Dank

[hollow shell]

Ah

[marble hazel]

yo wtf parrot huh

🦜

[frail mantle]

dank is bird man

only bird related emotes i can remember other than that were yhadios and wedragud

[cosmic roost]

🦜

[crude geode]

The problem with emote suggestions is that they are drastically different from normal suggestions about the mod (and so are server suggestions but those only happen once every year at most), because they take up more space and are treated differently from normal suggestions (that being they have a lower star count)

[hollow shell]

The suggested emote was just a parrot looking straight at the camera

Not even cropped

[earnest cape]

[hot zephyr]

Dank was one of the top emote suggestors

[still zodiac]

[hot zephyr]

Putting a monthly limit would've stopped that, fast.

[crude geode]

Also, so many emotes are forgettable/not frequently used

Like

[hot zephyr]

That's why there's a star requirement

[crude geode]

[marble hazel]

yeah but theres no harm really in adding them + the star requirement exist

[tawny garden]

HEY

[crude geode]

[tawny garden]

Don't shit on

[hot zephyr]

"but people wouldn't use them"

Is a terrible argument

[marble hazel]

if 140 people actually went out of their way to vote for an emote it means those 140 people actually care

[tawny garden]

Thing is

[marble hazel]

also fab uses this iirc

[hot zephyr]

If you can rally 140+ people to vote for an emote clearly it has interest

(Also people said would never be used and it's become pretty common)

[crude geode]

That’s kinda debatable since I doubt 140 people use the emote daily but ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[tawny garden]

The req was lowered because of emote suggs

[marble hazel]

you dont need to use the emote daily to show that you care

[tawny garden]

specifically

[frail mantle]

time to post the now outdated emote doc

i should probably go update that later today

[tawny garden]

yey

[robust lava]

I still don't understand why the change was made so that emote suggs didn't need any reasoning whatsoever

[crude geode]

Same

[tawny garden]

Because Mrrp

[marble hazel]

because the emot speaks for itself

[hot zephyr]

Alright here's my question; if you were handling emote suggestions but you couldn't ban them, what would you change?

[robust lava]

[marble hazel]

if you had a fuckin google doc n shit people still wont vote for it because they dont like the emote

if you placed "ye" as your reasoning people would vote for it because they like the emote

[frail mantle]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1zM5nV_GSxN5AVoczf1YoSnd9XGUW3GGSDclIb2xD_7I/edit?usp=sharing

[hot zephyr]

isn't there a way to search for emote usage

[frail mantle]

yes

[hot zephyr]

something with searching IDs

[frail mantle]

correct

[robust lava]

I think a simple reason saying why the emote fulfils a need would be enough

[hot zephyr]

could you remind me how that works

[frail mantle]

i describe how to search for emotes by id at the start of the doc

[hot zephyr]

[hot zephyr]

thanks :)

You honestly could require reasoning for emote suggestions

In the form of a question

[marble hazel]

nahh

[hot zephyr]

"What purpose does this emote fulfill that our current emotes don't?"

Congratulations, there's all your duplicate emotes accounted for

[crude geode]

Then you start the debate of “if future duplicates aren’t allowed, why do we have so many duplicates”

[hot zephyr]

Because they were before the system

The end.

[eternal escarp]

better late then never

yeah

thats it tbh

and you could always just banish some duplicates someday prolly

[crude geode]

Grand logic

[hot zephyr]

It's not like we're gonna run out of slots any time soon

I mean, it's simple logic

Doesn't need to be any more complex than that

[marble hazel]

trueee.

[eternal escarp]

kinda the same like telling a caveman why he doesnt use wheels
or idk im bad at examples

[hollow shell]

Here's how you search for emote usage

right click the emote
Copy Link

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/791869096962555934.png?v=1

That string of numbers

Put it in the search bar

[hot zephyr]

313

[tawny garden]

:what:

[hot zephyr]

That's pretty good

[tawny garden]

mobile

[earnest cape]

oh yeah thats very good

[frail mantle]

mobile is death

byeah

[hot zephyr]

lol was used a few times in CD/modcorner

[hollow shell]

Yeah if you're on mobile then you can just

uh

do nothing

[earnest cape]

smilers

[frail mantle]

i am gonna update the emote doc later on

not right now though, cause school kinda stinky

[hollow shell]

aight

[hot zephyr]

So, the big question, Rover

Would a suggestion over the handling of emote suggestions be allowed?

Given the current circumstances, of course.

[crude geode]

You probably don’t need to do that.

[hot zephyr]

Most suggestions that've been made are likely going to be redundant just based on how much 1.5 will change, but we let them go to voting anyways

But we let them pass so more voices can be heard than just what's stated in mod corner

[crude geode]

Ah yes 1.5 is going to change every single aspect of the mod and every single item in it

I was meaning you can probably just have like chetto or someone bring it up in moderator discussion

[hot zephyr]

Nah

I'd rather see what more people think about it

[marble hazel]

i agree with ian

i think the emote sugg system could have been fixed, rather than just kill it as a whole

[hot zephyr]

I could pass a lot of things directly to mod corner but I don't because I'd rather let the community vote

I think the emote ban was unsatisfying for everyone because it's just flipping the problem instead of fixing it

[marble hazel]

Trueee.

[hot zephyr]

A compromise could've been made instead of just "ban"

[crude geode]

It was indeed putting a bandaid over the gaping wound.

[hollow shell]

You can make a suggestion about that, yeah

[marble hazel]

i dont really get how was it a "gaping wound"

[hot zephyr]

Would I want to split different points into many suggestions or just put out a few changes

[hollow shell]

Suggestions about the suggestion system are welcome

[crude geode]

People like me got very annoyed at emote suggestions

[marble hazel]

because why specifically

[tawny garden]

Ian just wants his emotes in

[hot zephyr]

Honestly? No

[marble hazel]

because they dont fit the suggestion "meta"?

[hot zephyr]

I'm not interested in suggesting more emotes

[crude geode]

That and they take up a large space in voting which is a huge deal.

[hot zephyr]

I'm interested in ending this debate once and for all

Like I previously stated, Cursed, I said we should force suggestors to only include the 256x256 version instead of the full version

brb

[marble hazel]

i mean like, whats wrong with it taking a whole space, alot of suggs do that

you can always scroll past it for like 0.23645 seconds

[crude geode]

So I saw. A nice idea.

[hot zephyr]

If we were worried about suggestion space we'd ask everyone to try and condense their suggestions as much as possible

But we don't

[tawny garden]

Why would you force 256x256?

[hot zephyr]

Because that's the size of emotes after discord compression

[tawny garden]

and?

[hollow shell]

This is a 256x256 image

Here is the stored emote image

[hot zephyr]

We'd have people posting giant versions, for example Dank's bird post

[hollow shell]

119x128

[hot zephyr]

right right, I was mixing up the emote size with the file size, 256 kb

[safe oasis]

emote suggs might also need their own star count to pass since its rare for some of them to get past even 90

[hollow shell]

They already do

140

versus the standard 200

[safe oasis]

thought that was server suggs as a whole

[hollow shell]

It is

Server suggs are usually emote suggs

[hot zephyr]

I think they were talking about separating emote star count from server count

[tawny garden]

I still repeat my question

[hot zephyr]

ie emote suggs could be 150, server suggs could be 140

[hollow shell]

That's just unecessary specificity

[tawny garden]

How does a filesize limit solve any emote sugg problem

[hollow shell]

We'd prolly just lower the server sugg req

[hot zephyr]

At the time I misspoke, Philo

I was implying that people would post the images as the smaller, compressed versions instead of giant high res images

[crude geode]

Does every emote suggestion need to go through?

After all, we only have 22% of suggestions going to dev, shouldn’t the same apply to emotes?

[safe oasis]

i’m saying it should be based around the average

never said to put it at 90, but closer to 120

[crude geode]

Depends on how many go through currently

Which is completely unknown since they’ve been banned

[marble hazel]

nah i dont think emote sugg star req should be lowered

[tawny garden]

It should be higher

[hollow shell]

Ian's motivation for limiting the size of attached emote images is so they don't clog the hell out of sugg chats

[crude geode]

Indeed

[tawny garden]

Eh

[hollow shell]

Like, you've got the classic peepoweird sugg, right?
#suggestions-voting message

[marble hazel]

yeahh!!!

[tawny garden]

They don't clog up much anyway

[hollow shell]

Imagine if it was actually:

Add peepoweird

Now that global emotes are dead you cant use peepo emotes anymore, I'd suggest to add peepoweird because it's a really well known or probably the most known peepo emote in the community, not to mention we supposedly have plenty of emote slots so this shouldn't be a problem.
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/496768616814084106/806110174397202482/unknown.png

Suggestion author: @brehhhxit

Every fucking time it got posted

[safe oasis]

name dropping brehhhxit i see

[marble hazel]

nah its fine

[hollow shell]

white background for added effect

[marble hazel]

white background was the real callout here though

[crude geode]

~~can we add peepoweird to frequently suggested ~~

[marble hazel]

im pretty sure that emote is banned already

[tawny garden]

It already is

De facto

[crude geode]

Except it isn’t iirc, it’s just in public opinion

[tawny garden]

Rover could add it to the doc

[hot zephyr]

It's public knowledge

[tawny garden]

#suggestions-discussion message

[hot zephyr]

Sugg posted

[marble hazel]

murdered on sight

[hot zephyr]

Any objections?

[crude geode]

hey by this metric I’m a relevant complainer.
Seems fine at a glance

[hollow shell]

This seems okay

[real steppe]

Yeah

[hot zephyr]

I think the culture around emote suggestions has become far worse than the suggestions themselves

It's rooted in the fact that emotes are not objective statements

[real steppe]

I never even knew they got banned

[hot zephyr]

Trying to apply some rules to anchor them down would stop the arguing

[crude geode]

Ye

[cobalt pewter]

These weren't added from suggs, no? And Fab loves to use the cyan one

[hot zephyr]

Both are common

[crude geode]

When you live in suggestion discussion you don’t have time to use emotes
Fab likes a lot of things. Like MGR: R. Maybe a bit too much. Byeah if it’s common it’s fine

[hot zephyr]

And then maybe if this passes we won't have to reinvent the wheel every time this topic is brought up

[crude geode]

Indeed

[sharp prism]

i agree @hot zephyr

[earnest cape]

of course you'd agree

[tawny garden]

Shut up Dank

[sharp prism]

[low hedge]

I make progressive heat/cold suggestion brb

[sharp prism]

i just want :sweatingfailure: tbh

[earnest cape]

[tawny garden]

Eh

I thought about suggesting it when I created the emote

[sharp prism]

You should've

[low hedge]

gonna suggest it brb

[tawny garden]

But it's just duplication and unoriginality

[sharp prism]

no

[earnest cape]

oh god oh fuck

[low hedge]

can be yote

for superior

[tawny garden]

#suggestions-discussion message

This was the moment

[cobalt pewter]

Yes

[sharp prism]

hdsweatingfailure

@tawny garden

[low hedge]

need to research how to do it good tho

[tawny garden]

No

[crude geode]

I remember Thomas making a suggestion regarding death mode weather effects

Cannot for the life of me find it tho

[earnest cape]

#suggestions-voting message this?

[crude geode]

Ye that one

I remember Bc he brought my examples up

[earnest cape]

hueh

[gilded crow]

posting something again
hope it works this time

[earnest cape]

please refer to other suggestions for suggestion formatting

or
[suggestion title]

[Rest of suggestions]

@gilded crow

[crystal iron]

Wasn't that already suggested and rejected

Or smth

[rose latch]

earth elemental in heart is requested so much

[earnest cape]

i mean no fault in suggesting it again just so it gets rejected again

[rose latch]

it's supposed to be a waifus thing

a big warrior dude is not a waifu

[earnest cape]

and it'll also be ☑️ if it reached the star req so yeah

[gilded crow]

how?

ah got it

like that?

I'm fine with it being rejected, I'll just give it a second shot and end it at that

[crude geode]

@gilded crow chaos, cosmic and granite elementals all also exist

[cobalt pewter]

[crude geode]

also you first sentence is a complete run-on @gilded crow

“The Earth Elemental in the current version of the mod doesn’t serve much of a purpose, as he only provides Arid Artifacts and a few weapons. Arid Artifacts are craftable, and the weapons are easily outclassed.”

[eternal escarp]

slag magnum is prty good tbh

[crude geode]

Until you get cryogen’s drops

[eternal escarp]

you mean, darkecho?

[knotty moat]

anyone see any glaring problems with my suggestion here?

[tawny garden]

Your reason should be on a separate line

[sharp prism]

like this @knotty moat

[knotty moat]

imma be honest mobile discord formatting is a bitch

[gilded crow]

what?

[knotty moat]

lemme see if i can do that

[tawny garden]

Just hit the arrow in the bottom right corner

[knotty moat]

sometimes it just sends it when i try to space out lines lmfao

[crude geode]

I was providing a non-run on version of your first sentence

[gilded crow]

what's a run on?

[knotty moat]

a sentence that goes on for longer than it should without proper punctuation usually

[gilded crow]

ah

I'll fix it

[karmic stone]

@void oak #suggestions-discussion

[crude geode]

@sweet escarp Formatting is off on your suggestion. Additionally, dog moving at light speeds at the end of the fight is pretty memorable already, and this just sounds like a fuck you to no-hitters.

[void oak]

Hmm

[knotty moat]

in my opinion the suggestion is ok in terms of idea, just not execution

[void oak]

I think he meant like Duke fishron expert

[knotty moat]

the teleporting and hitting part is flawed, but the part of having a special attack to go along with that line

[crude geode]

~~ah yes, more old Duke abilities copy pasted ~~

Delete your message in posting btw @void oak

[void oak]

Yes

Wair

[worldly forum]

Does mine seem alright?

[crude geode]

Personally Polterghast seemed difficult but fair to me the last time I fought it. Dashes and projectiles were actually predictable, and dealt fair enough damage.

[worldly forum]

I just did it in death mode today

it seemed too easy compared to the other post ml bosses, again just to me

The damage is fine

I just think it should have some harder attacks, or limit life steal

[grim tusk]

He already limits lifesteal, it inflicts moon bite

[void oak]

Disable life steal?

[cobalt pewter]

Not gonna lie my death mode polter nohit is particularly easy, but polter already inflicts moon bite on contact

[worldly forum]

it does?

oh

I did not realize that lol

[void oak]

Yep

Mistakes happen tho

And the suggestion is good

[worldly forum]

yeah

thx

[sweet escarp]

Might sound a bit weird in execution yeah but i simply mean like a cool little attack similar to old duke or polterghast, i suggested teleporting since its DoG's sthick and i think having some form of it would simply be a nice touch. It's not meant to be unfair, its of course meant to be reactable but more so to just spice it up a little bit. Since they'll probably change the fight again at some point. I probably could have phrased it better so mb there

[grim tusk]

Polter no longer spams proj 24/7 and has stupid dmg resist amount, hes fair in its current state

[crude geode]

Mhm ^

[cobalt pewter]

https://youtu.be/dbw5wDU-mp0 stoopid post provi weapon h

[worldly forum]

yeah

[grim tusk]

Remeber when he was so tanky that using stardust cells to inflict celled was a strategy

[worldly forum]

lol

I started playing like 2 years ago, but never got very far

so

[cobalt pewter]

In any case, some attacks can be tweaked (particularly the dash), but most of polter's fight is not that bad, especially compared to hell called pre nerf rust and dust polter

[worldly forum]

oh

[grim tusk]

[worldly forum]

it got nerfed it rust and dust

huh

[grim tusk]

https://youtu.be/0YHJAniL0pg

[worldly forum]

i did it in normal before that

still seemed easy lol

but

thats normal

[void oak]

May I suggest a portal similar to the old ones army opening?

[grim tusk]

1.4.5.002 polter was something

[crude geode]

Well the question is did you make an arena the size of a football field

[worldly forum]

maybe

[void oak]

I just made a box

[worldly forum]

it was not too big

it was a decent size tho

[sharp prism]

you have the same naming scheme as my nohit character

[sweet escarp]

Actually I was thinking of something like that, where you see two portals about to open and you dodge the area where they align

[void oak]

Ditto

[crude geode]

The formatting for your suggestion is still off

You need the title on a separate line

[void oak]

Hmm

[void oak]

But how's this? @crude geode

[sweet escarp]

Noted, thank you

[sweet escarp]

I'll fix it up

[void oak]

Sry bro

Wasn't directed towards you

[crude geode]

Please don’t ping me for random ideas, but the idea of something similar to Duke Fishron’s P3 is ech to me. If a suggestion is invalid in some way I’ll call it out as such, and not just complain about my perceived flaws with it. The suggestion has it’s flaws in my heavily biased eyes, but it’s still valid (as long as the formatting gets fixed)

[void oak]

Yea

After all, it's the community who votes on the suggestion

Sry for pinging you

[sweet escarp]

There, should be better now I think

[void oak]

Much better

Thanks for posting my idea bro

[sweet escarp]

No problem man

[void oak]

You did half the work!

:)

[sweet escarp]

Couldn't have done it without you hehe

[void oak]

Indeed

See ya

;)

[earnest cape]

Ah yes

Buff polterghast sugg

Ofc

The timing is ironic

[grim tusk]

#suggestions-voting message
Another rules we could add would be high quality and no shitposts

Also maybe that the emotes are Calamity related

Like an emote like would have to be remade to look like Cirrus for example

[summer sentinel]

imo it should be assumed they'll be high quality, as upon mod intervention for its implementation, only HD ones will be considered by default

[grim tusk]

we need to clarify anyways as there are some people who lack that common sense

[earnest cape]

misfortunately unfortunately

[dapper coral]

we can determine rules if it gets accepted

[hot zephyr]

Quality control is in the hands of the community

[grim tusk]

[hot zephyr]

Don't like emote? Don't star it

It's that simple

[grim tusk]

[summer sentinel]

Y'all just stole my points basically but yeah, that

[grim tusk]

Examples of emote suggs that could be made:

Add and cuz they are pretty used emotes

Add and because they are emotes used a lot by the community to represent agreement/disagreement and to confirm/deny something and there are not emotes that represent that

[cobalt pewter]

who uses that beyond nohitters with nitro

[earnest cape]

[grim tusk]

[marble hazel]

no please.

[grim tusk]

[tranquil perch]

why use :tru: when ^ exists

[earnest cape]

[eternal escarp]

color stands out

same reason most people listen to people with a role then randoms even of they say practically the same thing

[earnest cape]

don't mind me just a passerby

:)

[tawny garden]

Time to get wiki admin

[wind copper]

I have an idea for a boss but I dont know if it is too big of a suggestion to post or not

[dapper coral]

boss ideas are a no-go

you should read the doc in the pins to see what you can and cannot suggest

[wind copper]

Ok, thanks

[frozen storm]

[eternal escarp]

wasnt it lowered because its dropped by more wulfrum enemies?

[frozen storm]

Ye

7%

[eternal escarp]

it is a bit more common then before, but imo its fair seeing how its practically summoners only accesory at that point

[frozen storm]

Yes but only 7% at the start?

[eternal escarp]

while other classes get quite a few more exclusive stuff

[frozen storm]

It gives you like 0-1 dmg buff

[eternal escarp]

its better then nothing tbf, and with menacing its prty decent

it is a pre boss accesory, so it makes sense, although it is quite less then other exclusive accesories

[frozen storm]

Tbh Shark Tooth Neclace is better

[eternal escarp]

like fungal symbiote, ig

well, yeah thats true

[frozen storm]

Cuz even Squrell warrior is decent boi with Armor Penalty

And even so

[eternal escarp]

yknow, im kinda convinced actually

[frozen storm]

Battery will be replaced by Voltaic Jelly

[eternal escarp]

it should be a bit more rare to actually be more worthwhile tbh

[frozen storm]

Which gives +100% dmg buff

Wait

Battery himself acts like upgraded version

[eternal escarp]

although idk if 10% is the correct thing, since with menacing is a pseudo emblem, but thats balancing the devs would do if the sugg passes

byeah

[frozen storm]

+10% dmg boost

[eternal escarp]

i actually like the sugg tbh

[frozen storm]

When most of the pre-HM summons have less that 25 dmg

[eternal escarp]

most of them pair greatly with armor penetration, yeah

[frozen storm]

Vile Feeder

[eternal escarp]

belladona

[cobalt pewter]

Orchid mod has this neat mechanic for one of its Gambler weapons: basically this card can drop from Slimes at 20% chance, but the moment you got them the first time, the chance will be plummeted

[eternal escarp]

scab ripper ig

huh

thats a nice idea actually

tbh this could work for more items aswell, but doubt itll happen

[dapper coral]

how does that work in mp tho

[cobalt pewter]

not sure

[eternal escarp]

prolly server wide?

[dapper coral]

yeaaahhh

[safe oasis]

duping

[cobalt pewter]

might ask verv later

[dapper coral]

it's a good idea for sp but not at all practical for mp

[eternal escarp]

yeah, true

[dapper coral]

(i mean ig you could just make it so that the drop rate doesn't change at all in mp and that would technically solve it but whatever)

[cobalt pewter]

mp is stoopid

[dapper coral]

byeah uh

[frozen storm]

Add the earth elemental to the HoTE

[eternal escarp]

also, wulfrum is a multiclass set after all, and its kinda tankier then the prowler / ruffians i believ?

[frozen storm]

Ye

[cobalt pewter]

Wulfrum is in a relatively weird spot

[frozen storm]

Gives 5 armor

[eternal escarp]

so it makes sense 1 is damage and the other is tanky

[dapper coral]

what does this mean, am confus

[eternal escarp]

my logic is stupid so ill try re explaining

[safe oasis]

tanky isn’t really the word for that though

[eternal escarp]

well yeah obv

it iust focuses on defense more then the other sets

[safe oasis]

it allows you to block like 1 more damage over the other at the cost for much less dmg

[eternal escarp]

is what i meant

[cobalt pewter]

Honestly convert wulfrum into omniclass tbh

[eternal escarp]

also, im not sure how reforges behave with accesories, but my stupid logic is just 10% calculates first, then it calculates the reforge? so it kindof sounded like a worse summoner emblem, but my logic is stupid tbh so this doesnt really make sense lol

[dapper coral]

what is 10%

[eternal escarp]

damage, wasnt that the old wulfrum battery?

[dapper coral]

idk about old

rn it's 7% though

[eternal escarp]

yeah

just relevant to the sugg there

since it mentioned that 10%, idk

[dapper coral]

also if you're seriously gonna reforge a wulfrum battery to menacing please tell me why

[eternal escarp]

minmaxers are more common then we think

[cobalt pewter]

I would sugg to make Wulfrum Battery add flat dmg instead, but like

Belladonna

[frail mantle]

belladonna is like a summoner minishark except by the time you get it you can use two-three of them at a time

[eternal escarp]

and inflicts a debuff, ig

[frail mantle]

DoT debuffs do not exist

[earnest cape]

What are them again

[cobalt pewter]

stupid

[tawny garden]

In denial

[frail mantle]

not sure what there is to be in denial about

DoT debuffs don't exist unless you pull shit like orichalcum knives and give an early hardmode weapon a post-DoG debuff

[pine star]

Frostburn is ok for like 10 minutes

[tawny garden]

They're in the game

But their existence in practice ends there and then

[safe oasis]

abyssal amulet:

[zealous ridge]

Orichalcum knife...?

you mean mithril because that one has debuff memes

[frail mantle]

you are correct

i just thought orichalcum because orichalcum is pink and god slayer inferno is pink and my brain went monke mode from there

[earnest cape]

Happens

[ashen warren]

back in the days of the old suggestions channel i suggested something very similar to this

i wonder if it was me who started it

it never was officially accepted or denied as far as im aware

[radiant meadow]

it has been asked for many times by several people in the past

[ashen warren]

really?

i guess that makes sense

looks pretty cool though not gonna lie

[bitter drift]

DARN

my suggestion was rejected

[tawny garden]

🎉

[bitter drift]

idk if this is just an emote or a insult

[tawny garden]

damn, if it looked like an insult, sorry

just a joke

[frozen storm]

[bitter drift]

tbh it was the fastest suggestion of mine that reached the finish line
and i won't be able to suggest it again because it was regected

[frozen storm]

By the way

I think Wulfrum Battery will be viable if it will work like Jelly-charged Battery

[bitter drift]

...

by the way

wulfrum batter is an ingredient of jelly charged battery

[frozen storm]

Yes

And you can get Wulfrum Battery pre-Boss

[bitter drift]

and jelly changed post DS

[frozen storm]

But Jelly one post-Slime Gods

Voltaic Jelly is post-DS

But gap between Wulfrum Battery and Voltaic Jelly is like space and surface

[bitter drift]

ya now i see that it's true

[frozen storm]

Not only you get free minion slot, and also inflict Electrified debuff(worm fear)

[bitter drift]

maybe make a little earlier to obtain

[frozen storm]

But Summoner has

lets see

Nothing

Only Voltaic Jelly, Wulfrum Battery, Jelly Battery

[bitter drift]

xD

[frozen storm]

In pre-HM

But yea

Actually

[golden narwhal]

still more than ranger

[bitter drift]

xD

[frozen storm]

Ranger has amulet thing

[eternal escarp]

it sucks

[bitter drift]

well ranger has 2 damages (weapon damage and ammo damage)

i say it's an accessory onto it self

[frozen storm]

iirc Rev slightly nerf ammo damage

[cerulean estuary]

remove ammo damage

:basedandfuckrangerpilled:

[bold wave]

add gel ammo damage

also sand

[cobalt pewter]

No

[safe oasis]

no

[hot zephyr]

No

[tawny garden]

"Let's do the opposite of what everybody wants"

[bold wave]

Also Fallen Stars

[cobalt pewter]

[safe oasis]

make ammo throwable for like 1 damage

[bold wave]

Make a weapon that can use any kind of ammo

[frail mantle]

No

[bold wave]

No, make a weapon that can use ANYTHING as ammo

like a grinder

[tawny garden]

Make a weapon to kill Lubba

So that he shuts up

[bold wave]

you just pour shit into it and it comes out of the other end

I'll stop

[sand umbra]

Desert Prowler and Snow Ruffian being good early class armors is. kind of the point

Wulfrum isn't, and imo shouldn't be, class-focused

(if anything I'm in the minority and believe it should be less class-oriented, as a general mid-to-late pre-boss gear set with a little bit of everything but without the five funky class hats)

[dry latch]

imo it isn't even really needed

[sand umbra]

(then again I'm the same person that wants to see supercharge mechanics on Wulfrum shit despite it being like the earliest Calamity gear set in the game so take what I say with a grain of salt)

[dry latch]

there's too many armors for early game

and most of them don't get used cuz you can just blitz desert scourge instead

[sand umbra]

too many functionally identical ones, yes

(and realistically, none of 'em matter aside from the earliest ones, because Victide is stupid easy to get and better than everything else. I've spoken on this before)

[dry latch]

I don't even wear armor anymore until I get victide lol

except maybe for snow ruffian and desert prowler, cuz they're even easier to get

and can last a bit longer

actually I think that's the problem

you either grind for armor now -> beat the boss -> grind for next tier

or you just get a decent weapon and abuse mobility

tho that's prolly not an average player thing now that I think about it

but even then, that applies for the wood armor, ore armor and wulfrum

[cobalt pewter]

I already mentioned Wulfrum should be omniclass yes

Actually now that I have slots, fuck it

[frozen storm]

Wulfrum Multiclass

[safe oasis]

the starter armor being multi class can encourage mixing summons with other weapons which everything else in the game seems to be discouraging

bad lesson for new players

[sand umbra]

...that makes no sense

however in the interest of not starting an argument because I don't think other people work particularly well at 3 in the morning I'm going to pretend that it makes any sense

and then I'm going to remind you anyway that the only reason mixing summons with other weapons is nerfed is because it's broken in vanilla and is literally free extra damage

and also that if it were an omniclass armor there's a pretty good chance it wouldn't have extra minion slots

in any event I like this sugg

[dry latch]

just make it summoner armor with a focus on supercharging minions

[sand umbra]

I probably would've written something like it eventually

[gray nebula]

rework armors to be epicsauce

would be cool

would be cooler if there were plans hehe

[cobalt pewter]

Indeed

[crude geode]

Would be cooler if every developer was as cool as Iban

[earnest cape]

wait what iban without blinking pfp

[cobalt pewter]

Iban is still blinking

[earnest cape]

oh yeah i guess i didn't see it for long enough

[marble hazel]

whos iban

[frozen hornet]

Iban is an indigenous tribe living on Borneo island a dev

[frail mantle]

Iban is a myth

[crude geode]

Iban is a god

[earnest cape]

gee I wonder what led to this sugg

[cobalt pewter]

[gray nebula]

make vesuvius drop from mhhh someone else

instead of trying to combat quirky ooa

brimmie idk

[cobalt pewter]

Or make dropping Legendaries actually interesting or smth instead of relying on 1%

[earnest cape]

craftable legendary when

[cobalt pewter]

Imagine using every single legendary weapons for a dev weapon craft

[earnest cape]

tooltip: "are you out of your mind"

[crude geode]

Vesuvius challenge: beat ooa

[tawny garden]

Beating OOA isn't difficult

By any means

[gray nebula]

ooa

[tawny garden]

But it's so annoying and long that you won't bother

[crude geode]

Exactly

[tawny garden]

Unless you're a masochist

[low hedge]

remove betsy legendary iirc

no one wants to do OOA unironically

[earnest cape]

third time's the charm

[tawny garden]

This is the final time

[earnest cape]

look man I'm just enhaged the first one stood still at 189 and the second at 191

[tawny garden]

That means the sugg isn't good enough

:)

[earnest cape]

please don't deflate my ego even more

[tawny garden]

Cry

[crude geode]

Me with my late hm rework suggs

[earnest cape]

[tawny garden]

Your last one performed better when you reworded it

[earnest cape]

thinkies

2 star difference

[tawny garden]

Not yours, Cursed's

[earnest cape]

oh nice

[tawny garden]

#suggestions-voting message
#suggestions-voting message

[cobalt pewter]

I can't recall my suggs that are just close to 200

[tawny garden]

These two need a bluecheck

give me the power to do it myself smh

[earnest cape]

[crude geode]

Has it ever been delivered

[tawny garden]

Yeah

#suggestions-voting message

[crude geode]

@radiant meadow Apologies for ping, latest earth elemental sugg needs a bluecheck

[tawny garden]

The two I linked above

[crude geode]

It’s a three month old suggestion.

[cobalt pewter]

I never realized this sugg exists

[eternal escarp]

ozz said they are aware of the problem so idk how much a sugg will help anymore

[earnest cape]

nice

[eternal escarp]

itll be done eventually

[crude geode]

Mhm, was never actually said whenever I made said suggestions so

[eternal escarp]

lemme find it one sec

[crude geode]

I am aware of it

[eternal escarp]

oh

[tawny garden]

That doesn't matter

[eternal escarp]

well wasted some time then

[cobalt pewter]

Re read that stealth sugg a couple times

What

[frail mantle]

which one

[earnest cape]

scroll up a bit

[frail mantle]

o

[hot zephyr]

[cobalt pewter]

Ey repost

[zealous ridge]

An armor is tricky

but more rogue stuff is good

[cobalt pewter]

Depends, if something can be yoinked off DD2 that are rogue related, maybe

[zealous ridge]

assuming anyone wants to touch ooa, which I wouldn’t know why anyone would subject themselves to that

You’ll have to consider how to obtain the armor, mostly

the precedent is buying it from tavernkeep

but, his store will be full by tier 3

[cobalt pewter]

just erase Tavernkeep and make Defender's Forge a unique trading system for Emblems

[hot zephyr]

Submenus aren't impossible

[cobalt pewter]

[sharp prism]

Yes

[zealous ridge]

submenus shouldn’t be impossible, no

[tranquil perch]

ping me when u guys are gonna discuss about my sugg

[hot zephyr]

They're a pain in the ass to make, tho

[zealous ridge]

But it’s still worth considering the logistics

[cobalt pewter]

Depends if they want to implement that if anything

[hot zephyr]

And I wouldn't blame devs for nuking that sugg because submenus are ech

[zealous ridge]

exactly, if there’s an easier way it may be better to go with that

[hot zephyr]

@tranquil perch Enchanted Metal is already dead

[cobalt pewter]

Enchanted Metal is already dead

[zealous ridge]

it would be unprecedented for an armor but it may be the better choice

[tranquil perch]

what

[cobalt pewter]

Damn

[hot zephyr]

Murky Paste is fine, because it gives a new drop to enemies that have none

Same with sludge

[zealous ridge]

paste I could justify removing imo

[cobalt pewter]

Also Mysterious Circuitry isn't a problem? Like, the whole arsenal system can be expanded a bit, and Circuitry can perhaps ride off that

[tranquil perch]

the wiki isnt up to date then

[hot zephyr]

Along with beetle juice and trapper bulb

[zealous ridge]

the sludge is okay

[hot zephyr]

It's a 1.5 change

[tranquil perch]

oh

i see

[cobalt pewter]

Enchanted Metal death is for 1.5 yes

[tranquil perch]

ok so done

removed metal

[hot zephyr]

I disagree with the suggestion just because these enemies otherwise really don't have any unique materials

[zealous ridge]

that’s kind of the question of the hour, then

[hot zephyr]

And there's no reason to actually seek them out to fight

[tranquil perch]

vines

[zealous ridge]

do they need unique materials

[cobalt pewter]

Also might prefer focusing on one or two related items instead of all of them in a single sugg

[tranquil perch]

yes

they dont

[hot zephyr]

They do

[tranquil perch]

why do they need unique materials

[zealous ridge]

how so, then

[hot zephyr]

...Because it gives them a reason to actually be fought

[tranquil perch]

fuck it, make demons drop demon souls

[zealous ridge]

well this is a bit of a case by case

[tranquil perch]

make every enemy drop "enemy name soul"

[zealous ridge]

I’d argue that spiked slimes do not need murky paste, and jungle slimes dont need to drop anything

you can’t just consider this on an enemy basis

[tranquil perch]

jungle slimes alr drop stingers

[zealous ridge]

area is also important, and the overall amount of items per zone you’ll be grinding

[hot zephyr]

So do like... five other enemies

[tranquil perch]

and murky paste is encountered in the jungle, and only in the jungle

[zealous ridge]

one or two enemies having no unique drops is honestly not an issue if you can reasonably get all that you need from the group of enemies, and why add a 4th material in the first place if there’s already ground being covered by spores, stingers, and vines?

[tranquil perch]

kif anything, just raise stiniger cost for the previous recipes

this also applies to the "time spent grinding" argument

as you can just raise the recipe cost

[hot zephyr]

I swear this channel saw the first wave of material bloat clear and it just took it to its logical extreme

[tranquil perch]

matreial bloat must vanish

actually

[hot zephyr]

Material bloat is already gone

[tranquil perch]

no

[zealous ridge]

people can take it to an unreasonable point, agreed

[tranquil perch]

actually lemme add another thing to my sugg

[zealous ridge]

abyss mats is a good example

[earnest cape]

Why would you want to raise jungle recipe cost

[hot zephyr]

Everything must be craftable with vines! Adding materials to hardmode jungle to encourage going there before chlorophyte? grrrrr

[zealous ridge]

...that’s not really what’s being said

[earnest cape]

Hornets and especially spiked slimes are so painful to deal with

[hot zephyr]

That literally is what is being said

[zealous ridge]

then I think there’s a misunderstanding

[eternal escarp]

@tranquil perch its mysterious circuitry i believe, not mistirious

[earnest cape]

Yeha its literally whats being said

[gray nebula]

I thought some of those already got removed

[fossil finch]

lumenyl and depth cells are materials with a lot of use what the fuck

[gray nebula]

also mfw "mysterious circuitry is just dumb"

[fossil finch]

lumenyl is also a deco block

[tranquil perch]

it is tho

[gray nebula]

that's what I call reasoning

[fossil finch]

and yeah that

[earnest cape]

Haha yes

[fossil finch]

it is not

[tranquil perch]

i wrote why i find it dumb

[gray nebula]

it really is not

[tranquil perch]

ok so there i changed it

[hot zephyr]

@tranquil perch This suggestion is bloated as hell, split it up into smaller parts and go into more depth on why you want these materials to be removed

[pulsar marlin]

Isn't supposed Lumenyl to be only for stratus items?

[gray nebula]

at this point just make a singular material per tier because 2 is already too much

lumenyl gets its own unique uses too tea

yea

[eternal escarp]

also, the circuitry itself is fine imo
seeing how theres quite a lot of materials you get in the same place and they share alot of recipes
example (kinda?) jungle spores and vines, or stingers

[gray nebula]

if anything ask for the abyss items to get more uniqueness from each other

[zealous ridge]

I feel murky paste is a different case on its own, but there are more ways of helping this issue

there isn’t always the requirement that they be deleted

[earnest cape]

Tbf the abyss items already kinda? Have some uniqueness to them

[zealous ridge]

I think the abyss items work well enough

[gray nebula]

eh

[fossil finch]

lumenyl and depth cells are two different tiers, and one is literal decoration lol

[gray nebula]

lumenyl and depth cell are kinda obtained the same way iirc

[pulsar marlin]

Fabsol should remove only Murky Paste, Beetle Juice, trapper's Bulb, Demon Bone Ash and Ectoblood only

[hot zephyr]

If anything, these mats should get more recipes instead of being outright binned

[zealous ridge]

mainly lumenyl and depth cells need help

[pulsar marlin]

The other I haven't mentioned are fine

[earnest cape]

Lumenyl is like crystal shards where they spawn on abyss stuff

[eternal escarp]

depth cells always are used with either lumenyl or tenebris, except Fathom Swarmer armor i believe

[zealous ridge]

This is a viable solution as well

[earnest cape]

So some uniqueness than just haha enemy drop

[gray nebula]

depth cell and tenebtis rly always get used together tho

[eternal escarp]

also i like lumenyl for building please dont kill

[cobalt pewter]

Ectoblood is probably the only one I'd instantly agree with

[zealous ridge]

Better to justify an item existing if it’s used in more cases

[cobalt pewter]

Ectoblood serves no reason when you can just up the rates of Ectoplasm you're getting in some ways

[fossil finch]

ectoblood is the really yeah

[zealous ridge]

murky paste would probably be the item that I would least mind being deleted

[earnest cape]

The only thing i remember about them being seperated is miracle fruit(?) And silva armor sets

[eternal escarp]

yeah tenebris is used alone in silva

actually lemme just find the thing

one sec

[zealous ridge]

your framing of the issue as children complaining about materials existing is rude, either way

[hot zephyr]

Let me use Demon Bone Ash as an example.

In Vanilla, if you've gotten the Demon Scythe, there is literally zero reason to fight demons other than that they'll attack you. Demon Bone Ash is a new material that actually gives you a reason to fight these mobs at any point in progression other than a single mediocre magic weapon, since it's used for a potion, weapon, accessory, and pet item

[earnest cape]

Then you see the rest of the stuff and its literally just a spec

[cobalt pewter]

Was doing something, but to elaborate, you can always make Dungeon Spirits spawn more commonly for example

[tranquil perch]

i mean yea staying alive is a good enough reason to fight any enemy

[hot zephyr]

Don't think it has enough items to really be impactful? Well instead of deleting it, it should gain more uses.

[tranquil perch]

besides, vodoo dolls alr drop from demons so we could use those instead

[hot zephyr]

no

[tranquil perch]

[zealous ridge]

hell is also an odd case which should just overall get more content

[tranquil perch]

hell

ok so i will remove bone ash

wait

ok nvm

[fossil finch]

almost all depth cells crafts seem to use lumenyl, lumenyl has a lot of crafts that do not use depth cells
even then, imo both of them should stay

[hot zephyr]

I'd rather these materials actually be given more uses that encourage spending time in underutilized areas instead of turning things like Hell into an afterthought

[eternal escarp]

instances of Tenebris alone:
Silva
Barracuda Gun

instances of Lumenyl alone:
Stratus stuff as a whole
Abyssal furniture

Instances of Depth Cells alone:
Fathom Swarmer Armor
took too long and now its prolly irrelevent

[tranquil perch]

remove depth cells and add lumenyl to fathom swarmer

[pine star]

same

[fossil finch]

that would make thematically 0 sense

[eternal escarp]

theres also instances only 2 out of the 3 are used, but im lazy to write that too now

[fossil finch]

why would you craft fathom swarmer with glowy stuff

[eternal escarp]

unless itll help prove a point

[tawny garden]

tfw you still haven't changed "misterious" to "mysterious" @tranquil perch

[sharp prism]

[eternal escarp]

ikr so cringe i even pinged him

[tranquil perch]

done

english is

[hot zephyr]

I'm also 90% sure that the two Draedon plating items are separate for a reason we're not able to know yet. It's too early to change them until we know what'll be happening in 1.5

[tawny garden]

I saw the ping

I'm lurking 👀

[tranquil perch]

Philo is always watching

[sharp prism]

lurking

[hot zephyr]

Maneater Bulbs were literally removed because there was a same-tier material that the associated mob drops with the same function

There's no Vanilla equivalent of the things you want gone.

[fossil finch]

even then, it makes sense we make arsenal weps from both the plating and the circuitry that was originally used on it

[earnest cape]

:)

[sharp prism]

can we up the droprate of trapper bulbs, grinding for them is the worst

[eternal escarp]

the plating is used alone for most of the furniture, while the circuitry and plating are used for the weapons (and the chest)
and i think its safe to assume they might also get more stuff in the next update, seeing how we dont know much about it relating to these items

[tawny garden]

then give them more uses as well

tbf most of these could be given more recipes for them to be used

[hot zephyr]

*all