suggestions-discussion

[grim tusk]

This would be good emotes

Sadly after the emote suggs became literal shitposts they got banned

[crude geode]

Especially considering how much people use ^

Yeah

I got the idea to suggest an actually good emote, :WHEEZE:, but then people just used it for personal gain and shitposts

[grim tusk]

This one ?

[frail mantle]

[crude geode]

Yeah

but actually zoomed out so you see it

[remote crystal]

Is there already something in the works about different kinds of gel as flamethrower ammo?

[eternal escarp]

there was alot of suggestions

im prty sure its possible but it just cannot be special effects

like, pink gel will act just like normal gel

i think thats the only possible way to code it without breaking your will to exist

[knotty moat]

would be interesting if there was like a cosmilite gel that split

[remote crystal]

I would have different gels inflict status affects

[frail mantle]

ammo types that do exactly the same as the other ammo types of their sets kinda cringe tbh

if there was cosmilite tier gel i'd prefer it if it didn't just copy cosmilite arrows' effect

[knotty moat]

idk some effects are cool

like the cosmilite splitting

[crude geode]

The problem is that it’s not as unique

It’s why vanilla pre-hm bullets and arrows are cool, arrows typically apply status effects while bullets pierce/do more damage/bounce

It creates actual different to the ammunition instead of just guns use this specific splitting ammo while arrows use this splitting ammo

[pine star]

yeah

Personally, idk what special effects could be applied to gel

Maybe purified gel strips off all enemy debuffs, then does extra damage for each one stripped?

[crude geode]

Could be neat, but from coding it sounds like giving other gels special effects is suffering

[pine star]

yeah

[eternal escarp]

im prty sure ita not even a possibility, i think it was said here thats its almost inpossible to make gel have unique effects

i remember it was said that they can make other gels behave exactly like the vanilla one, but im not sure if thats even possible either

[pine star]

oh

[eternal escarp]

yeah, this i think, im assuming this means they can only behave like normal gel

[pine star]

oh

That sucks

Also the Astral sand not working with Sandgun also sucks

[eternal escarp]

im assuming the same sulphoric sand, which is a rip indeed

[crude geode]

Tbfh that implies people actively use sand gun and enjoy it

[eternal escarp]

i mean, i would have unironically used it if it wouldnt have made such a fucking mess

[pine star]

It's an ok weapon in terms of DPS
It's just incredibly messy

[eternal escarp]

yeah

[crude geode]

Yes that is indeed sandgun

[eternal escarp]

omw to suggest Glass gun upgrade

[tawny garden]

nobody likes that projectiles transform into actual sand tiles

wh

I don't get this sugg

[eternal escarp]

i think its talking about the fact jared despawns while being fought?

i never knew this happens even

[tawny garden]

sounds like a bug

or some unintended crap

[eternal escarp]

yeah prolly

unless

you are going eay too far away from hared

in that case its prllly just because you let it despawn

[tawny garden]

in which case it's your fault

[eternal escarp]

yeah

[tidal harbor]

to me just happened when it was around 80% :c

[radiant meadow]

why do people do this

[eternal escarp]

yeah sounds like a bug more then anything

[radiant meadow]

I don't understand

[eternal escarp]

do what? fight eidolon?

[radiant meadow]

do we just need to make AEW straight up invincible?

[eternal escarp]

make it not drop halibut

then they will hopefully stop

[radiant meadow]

Make it drop halibut but be invincible

[eternal escarp]

no reward = no reason

[tidal harbor]

:c

[eternal escarp]

big brain

[tawny garden]

there's still a reason

called

"why not"

[tidal harbor]

it's the same reason why would u kill dungeon guardian

[radiant meadow]

AEW is not meant to be killed.

[robust lava]

Then you'll get people come in here and say "the wiki says the worm drops halibut, how do I get it?"

[eternal escarp]

lmao

[tawny garden]

lol

[eternal escarp]

tbh at this point there is no escape

i think all of the above will make them stop

maybe

[tidal harbor]

well u can do 100% damage reduction and u can kill her with just that weapon that does 2% of the maximum life no matter what

[tawny garden]

there is, it's next to f1

or tilde

holy fuck

@radiant meadow

[eternal escarp]

what the fuck

[robust lava]

lovely

[eternal escarp]

whatever

[robust lava]

back to the conversation

[eternal escarp]

fuckin-

[tawny garden]

[eternal escarp]

byeah

there seems like you cant make people stop because people will always try

thats humanity

all we can do ig is make killing it not rewarding or just not possible

[tidal harbor]

i tried it for the same reason i tried to kill the dungeon guardian in vanilla .-.

[eternal escarp]

the former is the logical but not exactly helpfull
the latter is the one to surely work

[tawny garden]

tbh

[eternal escarp]

which is?

[tawny garden]

just to kill it

[tidal harbor]

challenge

[eternal escarp]

of youre gonna say "the pet", thats calval

well

[tawny garden]

for the sake of it

[eternal escarp]

its more of a test of patience then a challenge tbh

[tidal harbor]

true

[tawny garden]

tbh I'd let people be masochists if they want to

[eternal escarp]

and i wont ever want to use halibut due to ifs :Disqualified: nature

i mean if people set their goal to kill it and they do it then like

gz to them ig

[tidal harbor]

just to put it inside a weapon frame :3

[tawny garden]

no don't

these are bugged

[tidal harbor]

rip

[eternal escarp]

i wish tmod will fucking fix those alread tbh, but thats not really a topic for here

[robust lava]

they're getting fixed in tML 1.4

[tawny garden]

so in 2029

[eternal escarp]

wait actually? are you letting my hopes ul for nothing?

[robust lava]

https://github.com/tModLoader/tModLoader/pull/1108

[eternal escarp]

holy fuck, this makes me happy
thanks for telling me lmao

[gusty geode]

That new sugg in voting sounds kinda specific imo

[whole sedge]

It's kind of just a fine amount of specific really

[earnest cape]

borderline imo

but ehhhhh

idk about the reasoning of the sugg

[hot zephyr]

Raverist's suggestion?

[earnest cape]

ling ling's

of nvm

[hot zephyr]

what

can you just link it

[earnest cape]

they were talking about raverist's sugg and i was talking about the newest one in posting

sorry for the confusion

[hot zephyr]

Raverist's sugg is like.... really overcomplicated for something that really doesn't need to be

"Make Guide Voodoo Dolls stack"

There, you're done

[earnest cape]

Demons have a tweak whereby they drop a Guide Effigy

yeaaaaaa pretty overcomplicated

[hot zephyr]

Probably the most roundabout way to ask for Guide voodoo dolls to stack

[earnest cape]

just a lil'

[cerulean estuary]

Well I mean guide dolls don't stack because they're an accessory

[earnest cape]

i wonder if you can make the voodoo dolls work like dyes where they stack but you can only put one if you wanna put them as accessories

[hot zephyr]

Then remove the accessory aspect from it because there's already ways to kill NPCs

[earnest cape]

boulders?

[visual wigeon]

Lava

[hot zephyr]

There's a rogue weapon that does NPC damage I think

[earnest cape]

oh ye the nasty cholla

but it's pretty expensive and deals little damage

[visual wigeon]

Nasty cholla vs permafrost sppedrun

[hot zephyr]

Then just use lava lol

[cerulean estuary]

Also 1.4 makes voodoo dolls obsolete, so it'll fix that when 1.4 tmod comes

[earnest cape]

at that point just use the unlimited merchant killer from luiafk

hmm?

ftw?

[cerulean estuary]

1.4 makes wof spawn when the guide dies to lava in hell

Meaning you just need to house him down there and drop him

[earnest cape]

i mean you can still use it as an accessory to damage the guide

[cerulean estuary]

True

[earnest cape]

if you wanna farm andrew or smth idk

[fossil finch]

I mean making a house for the guide on hell, waiting for night and him to teleport is boring

It's mostly done for speedruns or fucky rng

Useless is taking it too far

[cerulean estuary]

I do think cal raises the voodoo spawn rates a bit too much

[earnest cape]

getting fixed next update iirc

[cerulean estuary]

Ye iirc

[ashen warren]

yeah, it might be a stretch

[cerulean estuary]

The reasoning that it clogs inventories is pretty good

It'll be less of an issue next update tho

[ashen warren]

true, my inventory had like 8 dolls

[earnest cape]

this is why we use autotrash

[tawny garden]

#suggestions-voting message needs a 🏁

[hollow shell]

Kinda yeah

[summer sentinel]

added

[marble hazel]

Sugma

[earnest cape]

[tawny garden]

Finally after spending 1.5 years around the sugg channels I have a 🏁ed sugg

[golden narwhal]

[glass sentinel]

i got 2 and i have barely posted any suggs

[tawny garden]

[summer sentinel]

In the end, we're all winners

[earnest cape]

except for my 191 star dragonfolly sugg

someone somehow scrolled that far up

[low hedge]

may my over 200 star crabulon sentry be remembered

ameno dorime

[earnest cape]

[bold wave]

Sulphurous Sand is hardened in my mind

[eternal escarp]

it kindof is?

[neat crescent]

pretty sure its like that so the world can gen like it does

[glass sentinel]

imagine pee pee sea world gen with regular sand

[eternal escarp]

tbh i prefer the sand to not fall

makes building better

[cobalt pewter]

I actually can't remember how much rogue subclasses are there

Did I mention everything

[tawny garden]

Smh look on the wiki [[Rogue]]

[red storm]

https://calamitymod.gamepedia.com/Rogue

[cobalt pewter]

Lazy >:(

[tawny garden]

[[Weapons#Rogue]]

[red storm]

https://calamitymod.gamepedia.com/Weapons#Rogue

[frail mantle]

i think you got them all

[cobalt pewter]

mf Terrarian throws giant javelins like it's paper

[tawny garden]

He's a superhuman

[eternal escarp]

he also holds humongus swords,guns, and whatnot

so

[cobalt pewter]

Yeah we're not gonna get to there

[tawny garden]

And can summon giant rainbows from a puny prism

[cobalt pewter]

But I'd still prefer javelins being the heavier counterpart of daggers, instead of essentially just dagger but big

From my memory, the only javelins with high use time are Frequency Manipulator (that accounts for the spin) and Scarlet Devil

[tawny garden]

(Imma get the sugg stats today after school ends
I'm gonna do it on the 1st of each month)

[cobalt pewter]

[tawny garden]

this is a don't

• Any suggestions about making vanilla weapons or equipment deal/boost Rogue damage instead.

[bitter drift]

oh ok thanks for letting me know

[tawny garden]

• Any suggestions about connecting the Rogue and Throwing classes in some way, via compatibility, replacement, etc.

[eternal escarp]

they will be changed in 1.4 to not be throwing anyways, afaik

[bitter drift]

but they will change into ranger

[tawny garden]

I think they don't want rogue to be associated with throwing

[bitter drift]

and i got to ask does ranger REALLY need more weapons?

[bitter drift]

they did that because throwing is gonna get deleted in 1.14 so to change that they made their own weapon type

[tawny garden]

1.4

I didn't mean it in that sense

[bitter drift]

anyways i hope one day they will reconsider
rouge can use some extra weapons early game especially bombs

[tawny garden]

in any case, if they want them to become rogue, they could do so in 1.4

which is still upcoming

[bitter drift]

for Tmod the update it self is already out

[tawny garden]

it's still a beta

Since #suggestions-posting was created (20 April 2020), there were ⭐ 2302 suggestions. Of these:
✅ 729 were delivered to the dev server/mod voting
👍 400 were approved
🚫 141 were rejected
☑️ 57 were bluechecks
🏁 99 were implemented

Which gives a grand total delivery rate of 31.67%,
an approval rate of 17.38% (54.87% of delivered),
and an implementation rate of 4.3% (13.58% of delivered, 24.75% of approved) (including "instant flags")

Link to the previous report: #suggestions-discussion message

[eternal escarp]

its better then giving it to melee

[tawny garden]

I expect a further decline of the implementation rate due to emote suggs getting killed

[eternal escarp]

lmao

[tawny garden]

[eternal escarp]

i mean

99 implemented ones is prty interesting tbh

almost tri-digit

[bitter drift]

but it still feels WRONG

[eternal escarp]

i mean

why?

[silent jewel]

anti-ranger bias

[eternal escarp]

ranger lacks unique weapons in vanilla pre hm anyways so imo its a good thing

[bitter drift]

dude i am a ranger at heart

[eternal escarp]

so am i

[bitter drift]

but this feels wrong

[earnest cape]

And also lack of ranger armor

[eternal escarp]

^

ranger litterly had only necro armor iirc

[earnest cape]

Ye

[bitter drift]

ya many of the armors are going to melee or mage

[eternal escarp]

fossil went to ranger
ninja is classless now i believe

thats it i think

[earnest cape]

Ninja is classless ye

[eternal escarp]

and obby armor is summoner instead of classless iirc

[bitter drift]

the armors i am fine with just talking about some of the weapons

[eternal escarp]

in 1.3 they are prolly gonna stay throwing, and 1.4 will delete it anyway

[bitter drift]

if you ask me they would be at a better stop if some of the throwing weapons were deleted out right

[eternal escarp]

i mean

it would

[tawny garden]

why

[eternal escarp]

maybe?

[bitter drift]

i feel like there are too many of the same weapon

[eternal escarp]

but i still think ranger variety in phm is nice

[bitter drift]

nope 1.4 they are all doing ranger damage

[eternal escarp]

theres litterly like, 60 swords in vanilla

[eternal escarp]

i meant delete the throwing damage

not the weapons

also, ranger has almost 40 bows? and like 35 guns? or something

so tbh that point is kindof moot in terraria regards

[bitter drift]

you have a point

[silent jewel]

i personally think that amount arguments are bad when arguing against weaponry being added to a class

[eternal escarp]

well, in any case it doesnt matter

its a dont anyway

i just wanted to state my opinion on that lol

[tawny garden]

you'll be better off suggesting some of them to be converted from ranger to rogue after Calamity migrates to 1.4

[bitter drift]

[eternal escarp]

thats true

[bitter drift]

when it happens

it takes so long xD not pointing anything at calamity's devs

[eternal escarp]

point at tmod

[bitter drift]

yap

[eternal escarp]

byeah

[tawny garden]

they're working on it

[bitter drift]

anyways i will be at #calamity-mod-talk cuz rogue DS (death) is a little

[eternal escarp]

now that i know they fixed item frames im forever happy ngl

[tawny garden]

[bitter drift]

[robust lava]

I think tML 1.4 is getting closer

[eternal escarp]

id assume itll maybe come towards the later parts of the year? assuming they keep a steady pace

[tawny garden]

it is

[eternal escarp]

but idk

idk really how hard / long it takes to fix and port so i cant really estimate times

[robust lava]

From a complete outsider's look at their collaborators channel, I think there might be 1.4 betas coming in like the next 2 months

[eternal escarp]

here hoping

[tawny garden]

lemme just post a link cuz I'm a self-promoting piece of shit #suggestions-discussion message

[eternal escarp]

~~i am aswell, so i understand ~~

[sharp prism]

philo

just edit the message

[cobalt pewter]

Don't get your hopes up

[tawny garden]

no

[robust lava]

I'm not really. I've just been watching their collaborators channel for a while, and progress is being made

[tawny garden]

why would you make the weapon names less original then they currently are

[rancid saddle]

because its like calling the terra blade the bitch killer 32

[sharp prism]

Consistency

[tawny garden]

we need less generic names

in fact

[sharp prism]

Rename

[cobalt pewter]

Planetary Annihilation is a reference

[sharp prism]

it is?

[cobalt pewter]

From a game with the same name yes

Do you read its wiki page?

[sharp prism]

huh

i've read most of the wiki

[rancid saddle]

okay wut abt cosmic bolter ;v

[tawny garden]

nah

[zenith hazel]

because terra bow sounds boring

and I'm pretty sure some other mod already has a terra bow

[eternal escarp]

cosmic bolter sounds better anyways

i dont want "terra blade" "terra thrower" terra this terra that

thats just lazy tbh

[cobalt pewter]

Speaking of Cosmic Bolter, can the gimmick really amount to anything?

[eternal escarp]

granted not always you can get a good name

but when you do

its better then the generic "(tier) (item type)"

[cobalt pewter]

Just don't make Terra weapons easy

Though it's a bit too late for that

[eternal escarp]

i just wish every flamethrower moved as slick as terra burster

but idk if its a balance thing

if it isnt i wouldve suggested that tbh

[pine star]

I understand where Beesical is coming from

Because there is such a thing as an "Awesome McCoolname"

But Cosmic Bolter and Planetary Annihilation are not the right weapons to target

[eternal escarp]

which weapons are "awesome mccoolname", cant think of any lol

[robust lava]

Swordsplosion, but that's a reference

[tawny garden]

it's never too late

[cobalt pewter]

Planetary Annihilation totally deserves the name like

[pine star]

Star Swallower Containment Unit

[eternal escarp]

ah, i see

i find it funny tbh

[cobalt pewter]

Dude that thing looks too good to be given dogshit basic names

[eternal escarp]

its anti climactic

[pine star]

I guess so
And froge

[eternal escarp]

Star Swallower
its a frog

[pine star]

I agree

[pine star]

It's also a small frog

[eternal escarp]

byeah there are some weapons like that prolly

but these 2 defo have good names that fit

[pine star]

yeah

[eternal escarp]

i mean, its like calling litterly every time based on its tier

[tawny garden]

I am against generic names

and generic weapons

remove a half of melee weapons

[eternal escarp]

Daedalus Pickaxe
Daedaluse Broadsword
Daedalus Cuttles (?)
Daedalus Wings
Daedalus Bow
ect

[cobalt pewter]

Cal has sadly a lot of them, doesn't mean there's too much of that

[eternal escarp]

all of daedalus have unique naming, which is good imo

[cobalt pewter]

But still a significant amount

[eternal escarp]

it makes it interesting

[cobalt pewter]

Cryonic theming is fucked up atm

It's hard to make it an example

[eternal escarp]

the theming is fucked, yeah

true

[pine star]

yeah
Though Starnight Lance and Shardlight Pickaxe are fairly easily confused

[eternal escarp]

lemme get a better example

Scoria?

[cobalt pewter]

Scoria is a fine example yes

[eternal escarp]

cant imagine it all just being

[pine star]

yeah

[eternal escarp]

Scoria Bow
Scoria armor ect

[pine star]

Hellfire Flamberge, Hydrothermic Armor, Flamebeak Hampick

[eternal escarp]

Continental Greatbow, Helstorm

[pine star]

yes for both

[eternal escarp]

just checked yeah

tl;dr

[pine star]

Also Fault Line and Forbidden Sun

[eternal escarp]

unique names are better af imo, some weapons do have over exagurated names but its better then "(tier name) (type of weapon)"

[pine star]

yeah

Like imagine if Black Anurian was called "Abyss Mage weapon"

[fossil finch]

[eternal escarp]

Archerfish was just Abyss Gun

photo was Exo Flamethrower

[tawny garden]

[robust lava]

What a better world that would be if every weapon was <Tier> <Weapon Type>

[pine star]

Had to go with that one

[fossil finch]

tbh they should give unique names to the other terra/elemental tier weps

[pine star]

yeah

[eternal escarp]

well, they prolly didnt because they maybe just

didnt have idea

but id like more unique naming yeah

[pine star]

How old are the Terra weapons anyway?

[eternal escarp]

more terra related then just

terra

[pine star]

Because they could be artifacts of the past

[tawny garden]

older than you

[eternal escarp]

tbh i might just make a sugg to this and then see if its a problem or not

[fossil finch]

terra stuffs are old af

[tawny garden]

the og Terra Blade was added in 1.2

which came out on September 30, 2013

[fossil finch]

living shard page was created on 2017, and by that time they were used on ray, lance, and flameburster

[tawny garden]

the wiki was created in 2017

the shard was added earlier

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[red storm]

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[tawny garden]

oh shit that's huge

[ashen warren]

lmao

[radiant meadow]

why

[cobalt pewter]

smh

[cobalt pewter]

...?

Didn't I just sugg this a couple hours ago

[eternal escarp]

isnt that just feedzuh's sugg but a bit more specific

[cobalt pewter]

[tawny garden]

Yes

[eternal escarp]

yeah seems like its litterly just feedz but specific lol

[tawny garden]

@dire loom your sugg is the same as a sugg which is currently in posting, except that yours is more specific and has less reasoning

[dire loom]

wait shoot

im dumb

lol sorry

[eternal escarp]

doesnt provi already have like, a small delay before the attacks really, well attack?
unless you fight provi from point blank, which is kinda your issue by then

although that small delay can be a bit elongated, thats true

since its prty tight iirc

[cobalt pewter]

She has a relatively generous amount of delay when entering cocoon imo

[wide flicker]

Also cocoon not cacoon, I know it is a nitpick but it bugs me

[cobalt pewter]

Or at least from my nohit experience

[eternal escarp]

better grammar leads to better suggestions

[dapper coral]

wait why are you inside provi

[cobalt pewter]

True melee?

[dapper coral]

that sounds very bad and not a good idea

[cobalt pewter]

That's the most plausible way to be inside of her

[wide flicker]

True memelee

[cobalt pewter]

...god that sounds bad out of context, anyway

[eternal escarp]

who is this directed to? the suggester?

[dapper coral]

ye

and yea true melee probably makes sense but

[cobalt pewter]

Yeah obviously the attacks are more punishing if you're inside of her

But like

[dapper coral]

do you really have to be inside provi to hit her with true melee

[cobalt pewter]

She always tries to be above you at all times

[eternal escarp]

so you really could be insta-killed at any point when you are too close to the boss.
i see

well

isnt that like

part of the challenge in true melee

to be close to the boss?

and incase the suggester isnt true memeing

kinda their fault they fight her from point blank ngl

i personally 100% disagree with the latest sugg now

[cobalt pewter]

All bosses that dash in any directions are Duke Fishron

cool.

[eternal escarp]

the fight feels nothing like Duke Fishron

if you were to say QB i would have said maybe

but this is just an omega stretch tbh

[cobalt pewter]

PBG is a direct derivative to QB

Even lore wise

[eternal escarp]

also, PBGs drops are mostly great

[wide flicker]

buffing PBG

[kindred creek]

who is QB?

[eternal escarp]

Blight spewer is amazing
Pestilent defiler is nice imo
The Hive is prty well rounded
The Syringe might be better indirectly with stealth?
Malevolence is all rounded aswell
and i never used the summons, but she drops the material for a great summoner armor

cant remember is she drops more

QB is Queen Bee fyi

[cobalt pewter]

The Syringe is kinda bad with stealth too iirc

The thing with bee / wasp weapons is that they're spammable to create swarms

[eternal escarp]

Plague Staff could use a little buff ig
Pandemic is meh iirc
Virulence is decently good
Dunno about the pike

[cobalt pewter]

And stealth is never meant to be spammed

[kindred creek]

ive literally done a playthrough as every class and never once used a weapon from plaguebringer goliath

[eternal escarp]

lmao

[fossil finch]

pbg is good because funny swarmer combo

[eternal escarp]

thats just because you didnt

[cobalt pewter]

mfw Gatling Laser

[eternal escarp]

doesnt mean they are bad

[grim tusk]

#suggestions-posting message
Malevolence says hi, infected plating stuff is amazing

[eternal escarp]

^

[cobalt pewter]

System Bane is cool

I haven't tried others

Gauss Rifle I actually did

[eternal escarp]

PBG unlocks a bunch of great weapons

[grim tusk]

The plaguebringer armor is fucking broken

[cobalt pewter]

It's good, but kinda just lame and inconsistent theming wise

[eternal escarp]

and the fight itself is no where close to duke fishron excpet haha it zoom

[grim tusk]

Also plague hive + the swarmer

[grim tusk]

[eternal escarp]

and it does less damage because its fought before fishron

its supposed to be "weaker" then fishron

[grim tusk]

Yea Plaguebringer is intended before Duke and Rav

[eternal escarp]

and all 3 bosses at that tier can be fought with vanilla weapons obv, its just not gonna be easier then if ud use modded ones

[cobalt pewter]

The funni

[eternal escarp]

thats not really a point

[fossil finch]

me when boss dashes: duke fishron copy????????????????

[eternal escarp]

exactly lol

gUYs THe PLAyEr iS A DOOk FeeShRoN

[fossil finch]

dashing was invented by duke fishron

[hot zephyr]

I'm Duke Fishron.

[eternal escarp]

byeah, in any case

imo that suggestions points are pretty invalid, although the sugg itself seems to be valid

[tawny garden]

😲

Ian dashing

In real

[eternal escarp]

ian also blows bubbles

and summons tornados

[rancid saddle]

omg thing dash?!?! must be FUCKING duke fishron!?!?!/ queen bee= duek fishron you-dukefishron FUCK IT the world is duke fucking bastard fishass fishron. Fuck you, you're fishron too

[cobalt pewter]

Scal is duke fishron because she dashes

[rancid saddle]

CORRECT! world is duke fishron bc I dash and it dash other way

[eternal escarp]

yeah we overused this joke, the point went across methinks

[tawny garden]

Yeah

@rancid saddle

[eternal escarp]

okay

wow

[dapper coral]

beesical can you not meme here for the love of god

[pine star]

@rancid saddle

[eternal escarp]

^

[dapper coral]

@zenith hazel can you sort this guy out pls

[sleek turret]

isn't the purpose of a ranger class to aim and not be a m1+wasd pyro

[eternal escarp]

:kill:

[gray nebula]

based

[tawny garden]

Chetto promised to warn him

[eternal escarp]

most of ranger

byeah

[cobalt pewter]

[grim tusk]

#suggestions-posting message

[zenith hazel]

he's already warned

and I'm tempted to mute

[tawny garden]

Oh

[grim tusk]

[eternal escarp]

and in any case, if you are lazy and you want homing, play melee / mage / summoner

[pine star]

Or use Chloro Bullets

[grim tusk]

Or use chlorophyte

[eternal escarp]

late game melee atleast

or yeah that

[sleek turret]

chloro bullets

[grim tusk]

And some ranged weapons have homing like snowman cannon and planetary anhilation

[sleek turret]

yeah

[cobalt pewter]

Ranged is the pinnacle of homing

[eternal escarp]

basically theres enough homing weapons in this game that you can make homing% out of it

[tawny garden]

Aren't there Cal homing bullets?

[cobalt pewter]

Only Verium and Terra

[eternal escarp]

Verium, but only after hitting

yeah

[tawny garden]

Yeah

[dapper coral]

vanquisher is also homing, no?

[cobalt pewter]

Verium homes after the first hit, Terra homes with the shards on hit

[grim tusk]

Verium after hitting and terra after a while

[eternal escarp]

it has homing?

[grim tusk]

No except the splitted ones

[cobalt pewter]

Oh yeah Vanq clones, but those are arrows

[dapper coral]

the arrows do

[eternal escarp]

oh, clones

[tawny garden]

Vanq arrows are ye

[dapper coral]

bullets are non-exist

[cobalt pewter]

The arrow itself doesn't home, but its clones do

[eternal escarp]

in any case

[eternal escarp]

.

[cobalt pewter]

Homing% would be

Stupidly braindead

[eternal escarp]

yeah

[cobalt pewter]

[grim tusk]

[heady storm]

@rancid saddle okay stop.

[eternal escarp]

but its a possibility

[heady storm]

I am late and all, but have a mute.

[eternal escarp]

almost all of summoner is basically homing%

[fossil finch]

homingtank%

more brainded

[tawny garden]

So, perfect for me

[cobalt pewter]

no-homing% when

[fossil finch]

is that even possible

[grim tusk]

Yes

[fossil finch]

is there a weapon high enough without homing

wait just use true melee

smh

[tawny garden]

low_brain_usage%

[cobalt pewter]

Just use Drat for scal and Murasama for hearts / seekers, easy DQ kill

[grim tusk]

Gale, wand, Vivid, pulse rifle

[cobalt pewter]

[tawny garden]

Halibut Cannon isn't homing

[sleek turret]

yeah that too

[tawny garden]

Unless you use homing bullets

[eternal escarp]

you mean DQnnon?

[tawny garden]

Yes

[sleek turret]

chlorophyte + HC causes to your pc instantly die

[eternal escarp]

chlorophyte halifuck is prolly the most brainless weapon ive ever heard

[tawny garden]

Halibut Cannon + Rubber Mortar Rounds

[sleek turret]

red-code Dust particles

[tawny garden]

[distant vault]

no

[fossil finch]

just don't attack for 3 minutes and then use halibut

[grim tusk]

[grim tusk]

How to crash 101

[earnest cape]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/518647788200787998/762748199252656218/unknown.png

[eternal escarp]

so i wanted to suggest making most HM+ flamethrowers be more slick/smooth in their movement to encourage their use and make them better to use and be played with, but i want to know if theres a reason for them to not be smooth like, terra burster for example in the first place, to know if i should even suggest this or not

[earnest cape]

Cause flamethrower works by shooting individual projectiles that generate a fuck ton of particles

[frail mantle]

as in the way the weapon moves in the player's hand?

[eternal escarp]

the flames themselves are also quite choppy

[dapper coral]

more dust?

[eternal escarp]

thats basically the suggestion

[dapper coral]

like, so it looks like a smoother arc?

[earnest cape]

Fear

[eternal escarp]

well, kinda?

[earnest cape]

More lag letsgo

[eternal escarp]

didnt think it through eh

[earnest cape]

Prolly

[eternal escarp]

atleast photo is smooth

[radiant meadow]

photo is smooth because it shits out projectiles like 5 times faster

[sleek turret]

more dust?

what

[eternal escarp]

yeah, makes sense, didnt think of it like that at the start

[fossil finch]

more dust lfg lag the game more

[celest pine]

more dust

[radiant meadow]

@celest pine If you post a suggestion, please put a little more thought into it and avoid posting meme suggestions please.

[celest pine]

ok

[eternal escarp]

yeah so i prolly wont suggest this flamethrower thing if itll make more people lag lol

thanks for telling me

[earnest cape]

[celest pine]

sad days i have to wait 5 more minutes to post a suggestion

[celest pine]

the flamethrowers seem pretty smooth to me, how are they not?

[eternal escarp]

well, they are a bit more choppy then other throwers, byeah it doesnt really matter lol

[celest pine]

oh ok

[fossil finch]

terra one curves, others don't, basically

[eternal escarp]

yeah basically

[celest pine]

oh i see

you want it to be an actual stream

not just a gun with fire effects

[eternal escarp]

it was more leaning into a visual sugg, but it doesnt matter since the reson why they dont is pretty valid

thats why im not suggesting it after all

[distant gyro]

basically give all of them 2 use time and change the iframes

[celest pine]

oof

yes

[distant gyro]

adverse effect is lag

[eternal escarp]

yeah, and not making lag is more important obv

[earnest cape]

But special effects is worth the few frames right :))))

@celest pine read the pins

[tawny garden]

not for people who don't have any lag

like me

[earnest cape]

Shut up with your pretty 4k ass

[eternal escarp]

i dont either, thats why i didnt think of the problem in my sugg

[cobalt pewter]

@celest pine try referring to other suggestions in terms of formatting

[earnest cape]

^

[celest pine]

ok

[cobalt pewter]

Also death mode effects are already hard to balance as it is

(in fact some might need a rework imo)

Byeah

[earnest cape]

Jesus fuck dust forming in caves

[sleek turret]

dust

god

[earnest cape]

The ungodly amount of lag that might happen

[sleek turret]

that thing, its just, the frame killer

the fps killer

[celest pine]

no it wouldnt be particles

i said that in the paragraph

[sleek turret]

dust are particles (?)

[cobalt pewter]

I like what aleksh proposed a while back about making heat / cold protection a bit progressive, so the mechanic isn't immediately discarded later in the game

[gray nebula]

gameplay

[cobalt pewter]

And being only mattering in pre HM mostly atm

[gray nebula]

:chogges=rs:

[earnest cape]

Chogges=rs indeed

[sleek turret]

uhh

isn't the eyes effect 1.4

[eternal escarp]

blink? yeah

[sleek turret]

and also snezzing?

[eternal escarp]

prolly

[earnest cape]

I think they're referring to just the screen being wonky with your eyes being more crusty

[sleek turret]

ah

[celest pine]

fixed it

[earnest cape]

Maybe change the wording? Cause right now it causes slight confusion by what you mean as "dust"

[cobalt pewter]

Cave darkness is fucked up enough that Fab had to disable it in boss fights

Not sure if more arbitrary death mode effects to caverns is preferable

[earnest cape]

O ye isnt the cave darkness also nerfed

So it isnt just "haha fuck you, you can no longer see"

[grim tusk]

[cobalt pewter]

@eternal coyote you gotta have details in the sugg

[eternal coyote]

adding

[ancient mirage]

that looks like they just hit enter instead of shift+enter

[cobalt pewter]

Ah yes

Funni pc

Discord

[eternal coyote]

hit enter and not shift+enter

sorry

[languid quartz]

[bitter drift]

this was already suggested

[earnest cape]

I dont see a problem in that

[languid quartz]

doesn't mean they can't resug

[bitter drift]

and will be implamented

[tawny garden]

Ye

[bitter drift]

SuggestionBot
BOT
01/24/2021
Make acidwood placeable as a block + add acidwood furniture
To me it seems really strange that obscure themes like the sunken sea have their own furniture, but sulphurous sea doesn't. Plus, acidwood is the only wood that can't be used in building.
Suggestion Author
@supple urchin
Approved by
@ashen warren
it has over 200 stars and a thumbs up

[languid quartz]

oh wait there's another

[earnest cape]

Nice screenshot

[tawny garden]

@bitter drift read the pins

[bitter drift]

there was more then one?

[languid quartz]

I wanted the date more than the content

[whole sedge]

It's likely gonna be added but doesn't mean they can't suggest it.

[tawny garden]

Bluechecks exist for a reason

[bitter drift]

this one has green checks

[earnest cape]

Also try not to ping the author next time(assumig there will be a next time) when you're doing that

[bitter drift]

ok sorry

[whole sedge]

just screenshot stuff kthanks

[bitter drift]

i just copied the entire thing xD

[eternal coyote]

didn't realize it had already been suggested

[cobalt pewter]

Approval doesn't mean implementation

[bitter drift]

and idk how to screen shot in discord

[cobalt pewter]

And you can keep the sugg as long as any others hasn't got the 🏁

[eternal escarp]

the more suggestions the better afaik

thats why bluecheck exists

[tawny garden]

In fact there's only a chance of about 1/4 that the sugg will be implemented

[earnest cape]

Well the more suggs should be better

[eternal escarp]

well yeah

not always better, byeah

[cobalt pewter]

Approval limbo is wild

My Betsy Wings perk sugg has been approved around since I spawned in this server

[tawny garden]

They look through [highly suggested]

[cobalt pewter]

[tawny garden]

I have 5 suggs in such limbo

[cobalt pewter]

I can't recall mine

[bitter drift]

wtf

this is insane

[earnest cape]

He sold his soul here

So its to be expected

[tawny garden]

tbf 2 of these are minor

But still

I only have one implemented sugg

[bitter drift]

what is it?

[tawny garden]

Rage rework

[earnest cape]

O ye

[frail mantle]

i have

uh

one sugg in approval limbo that i can think of right now

[bitter drift]

oh really? nice
i am pretty sure i was the one who made astral solutions come to be (suggesting it but i am not sure if it was already suggested by the time i did)

[cobalt pewter]

I have 3 implemented suggs so far

[frail mantle]

i have one

[cobalt pewter]

(maybe 4 once Enchanted Metal is completely deleted)

[earnest cape]

What is this a race?

[tawny garden]

Out of your 60+ suggs

[bitter drift]

what is enchanted metal?

[tawny garden]

[earnest cape]

Material sold by arhcmage

You can use it to make mech spawners

[bitter drift]

COLD water on burns

oh that's it's name

[cobalt pewter]

But aside that, skelly (and apparently prime too now) unable to damage the player briefly, then coin of deceit buff, and titan heart giving kb immune (which should be in 1.5)

[cobalt pewter]

Apparently it's 196 in voting now

[eternal escarp]

my first real suggestion was never approved directly but its getting changed iirc so i call it as a win

[cobalt pewter]

[bitter drift]

what was your suggestion (to delete those?)

[earnest cape]

Ah yeah sjelly and sprime unable to deal damage for a period of time

A nice one cause it let me do soc memeing

[eternal escarp]

ah yes, the bonkening

[summer sentinel]

acid wood furniture would be pretty cool

[cobalt pewter]

Enchanted Metal? #suggestions-voting message

[bitter drift]

off topic from this channel but is there a calamity vanity discord server?

[bitter drift]

ya thanks even if it was late

[eternal escarp]

^

[earnest cape]

#other-discords iirc

[tawny garden]

Iinvite in #other-discords

[bitter drift]

thanks

[cobalt pewter]

Apparently this is the most borderline SIS sugg I've ever made that went thru
#suggestions-voting message

[bitter drift]

some blocks in calamity are able to make walls but not furniture

[cobalt pewter]

[summer sentinel]

oh yeah feedzuh that sugg got passed, enchanted metal is dead

[cobalt pewter]

Epic

[languid quartz]

[earnest cape]

[cobalt pewter]

So that's 4 implemented suggs now

[zenith hazel]

imagine not having an implementation rate of 100%

[cobalt pewter]

In any case, the last sugg is fine n dandy

I'm not one to make fancy buildings and shit, but having variety is always nice

Uh

[zenith hazel]

no

[gray nebula]

no in fact

[zenith hazel]

@knotty moat shadowspec stuff is off limits, read suggestion don'ts doc in the pins

[cobalt pewter]

mfw shadowspec have no ammo

[gray nebula]

ranged users going "haha but no but trust me ammo is an integral part of the class 🤓

[whole sedge]

[knotty moat]

oh my bad

[tawny garden]

Fuck ranged

[cobalt pewter]

I think I ranted about ammo damage a while back

[whole sedge]

no reason either

[gray nebula]

fuck ranged

[knotty moat]

i dont think ammo is integral ngl

[cobalt pewter]

Ammo damage is pretty stupid and enables stupid shit like P90 on Polter

[knotty moat]

i prefer ammo effects to damage

like if vanquisher arrows did less than wooden id still use them ngl

[cobalt pewter]

Maybe I should repost that sugg ig

[supple urchin]

Lol i literally suggested the same thing a week or two ago

[knotty moat]

my main idea was just shadowspec could have some badass effect justified by it being shadowspecc

[gray nebula]

would have been a dice roll for "is it interesting or is it bad"

funny endgame stuff going like

"hehe if i make the thing shoot out a projectile from a pool of 8 different ones with menial different effects it makes it better

(looking at u exo bow )

Projectiles everywhere sucks and you dont even have control or shit

[cobalt pewter]

Jrrjdjdkf

I hate la

g grr

Stupid keyboard lagging

[gray nebula]

Thats why andromeda mech has got rly basic attacks without projectiles covering the screen

[tawny garden]

gg Feedza

[cobalt pewter]

Batshit amount of projectiles ≠ unique, remember that

[fossil finch]

removing ammo damage and making the effects of what the ammo does actually the important part?????

count me in

[whole sedge]

count me in too
ammo actually being interesting would be

[supple urchin]

same

[hot zephyr]

Biome Blade is basically just: do you want "DoT debuff" or "DoT debuff in blue"

[cobalt pewter]

yes

Doesn't help that Galaxia and AotC steal projectiles off many other weapons

[hot zephyr]

Stinky Red and his obsession with DoT debuffs >:(

[cobalt pewter]

DoT debuffs aren't even good

Most of them are bad on tier

[tawny garden]

doesn't fab have that same obsession

[cobalt pewter]

And the only way to make them good is by putting them 5 tiers lower the designed one

[whole sedge]

most of them are so pointless also to the point that it doesn't matter if they exist or not

[hot zephyr]

Not really

[gray nebula]

thats hwy exo gun never gets added

[cobalt pewter]

If you want to make DoT, make it batshit insane damage, especially since non-stackable ones can't be boosted in any way, even tho they bypass def and DR

[hot zephyr]

I agree w/ Feed's suggestion about ammo damage

It's dumb

[gray nebula]

hi guuys here s my exo gun so basically it zshoots red bullets (double damage) blue bullets (pierece) green bullets (ignore i frames) purple bullets (duplicate on hit) pink bullets (bounce) orange bullets (inflict dots) yellow bullets (explode on hit)

[cobalt pewter]

Holy shit my eyes

[earnest cape]

Thats so bright

[hot zephyr]

We've moved past the point where bullets are just higher damage variants of musket balls, no need for ammo damage

[dapper coral]

iban why do you have this

[knotty moat]

yeah bullets deserve bette

[tawny garden]

It's magnificent

[knotty moat]

its like "do you want bounce, homing, or E X P L O D E"

[cobalt pewter]

The brainpower of modded developers are great enough to make unique ammo, but they're bound by stinky ammo damage in vanilla

[gray nebula]

Trust me, covering half the screen in rainbow puke is necessary for a viable weapon

[hot zephyr]

Make the Exo Gun just a knock off of Malfeasance from D2

[tawny garden]

Don't make the Exo Gun

[gray nebula]

but how will I finish my gun only pt then

[knotty moat]

i agree that covering the screen is viable

[crystal iron]

Is it just me or does the Goliath Sugg reasoning seem a bit odd, if anything plauge ringer is stronger queen bee, and even if it was weaker Duke fishron then it's only natural cuz it's earlier in progression, plus the last bit seems a just a tiny bit subjective, since the usefulness of a weapon is different for other people. (For example, i found the Gauss dagger useful while others don't exactly like it)
Same with the Duke fishron difficulty, it depends on the person how hard they find the boss, if you find him easy enough to beat with vanilla gear doesn't exactly mean everyone else does. Also Goliath is an optional boss so it's okay for it to feel like an add on I think

[eternal escarp]

yeah, we discussed it all before tbh

[crystal iron]

Ah

[eternal escarp]

lemme just

[crystal iron]

Thought so but just wanted to say it

[eternal escarp]

one sec

[crystal iron]

Ig

[eternal escarp]

no no its all fine

this is what this channel is for ofc

#suggestions-discussion message
if u want to see the discussion

too lazy to relist my points basically

[crystal iron]

Oh ye so I basically repeated what everyone else said

[eternal escarp]

yeah, because we are obviously right 5head

[novel belfry]

In response to Feedzuh's suggestion
I wouldn't say "delete ammo damage", instead I'd at least instead suggest that the ammo has a percentage-based damage increase for said ammo.
I'm not too keen on just getting rid of ammo damage altogether, but I can definitely understand feedzuh's issue with ammo variety being limited by damage.
Perhaps for instance, jester arrows are literally better than unholy arrows in every way, but we could make unholy arrows have an increased damage percentage than jester arrows.

[eternal escarp]

byeah, i still dissagree with that pbg sugg

especially since im biased cuz i love PBG as a fight

[crystal iron]

Honestly, I think just removing ammo damage would be easier. It wouldn't even matter that much, if the Devs were to, let's say, buff ranged damage by a small percentage or smth

Forgot a comma

[novel belfry]

This kinda screws over unholy arrows(and perhaps some other ammo times as well), so I'm not too keen on getting rid of ammo damage anytime soon.
(unless we're supposed to throw those into a grave)

[crystal iron]

Iirc it also says in the Sugg that perhaps some of the effects could be changed as well

[novel belfry]

tbh i actually haven't considered that idea in my response

[eternal escarp]

tbh unholy and jester arrows are litterly the only arrows that depend on ammo damage iirc
musket and silver bullets aswell for bullets
every other ammo is diffrent so these 2 could easily just get a small tweak instead of messing around with a system just to make 2 ammo types you wont ever use anyway a bit more usefull

[novel belfry]

who even uses bone arrows anyways

[eternal escarp]

yeah basically

[crystal iron]

I enevr even heard of their existence

Never*

😔

[eternal escarp]

so i dont see the point making a system for that when the obvious thing is either just letting them be / changing them

[novel belfry]

(also it seems that the damage increase to unholy arrows over jester seems to have been done in 1.4 anyways)

there's also the issue of bows that exclusively just fire their arrows and ONLY their arrows

[eternal escarp]

custom arrows?

Drataliornus for example?

[whole sedge]

Really I bet that the ammos that rely on just damage (Ex: Unholy Arrows, Bone Arrows, Silver Bullets) would probably get some unique effect if ammo damage is rightfully snapped

[brazen pier]

Unholy arrows could apply a debuff, bone arrows could burrow through walls, silver bullet could maybe bounce from enemy to enemy

idk

[hollow shell]

@celest pine You could use more reasoning in your suggestion. Your specificity-to-reason ratio is leaning pretty heavy on the specific side

You should explain why it would be more fun, or why the Death Mode caves would benefit from this new effect

(prolly should bring up their current effect, the darkness)

[celest pine]

oh ok

do i just edit the message or

post a new one

[hollow shell]

Yeah

You can edit

[celest pine]

ok

ill do it later

[hollow shell]

Aight

I'll mark it in the meantime

[grim tusk]

#suggestions-posting message that will just cause a fuck ton of lag, if it can be disabled in configs it might be fine

[hollow shell]

Even if it's just a screen overlay, like they clarify?

[grim tusk]

no lul

[hollow shell]

. _.

[languid quartz]

make Adult Eidolon Wyrm not despawn when you are trying to challenge him

Adult Eidolon Wyrm despawn when the player tries to challenge her

[grim tusk]

[pine star]

Adult Eidolon Wyrm is a hermaphrodite confirmed

[brazen pier]

genderfluid eidolon wyrm

[muted osprey]

oh god oh fuck

[brazen pier]

it is coming for your gender, better run

and drop that rod of discord if you wanna survive

[muted osprey]

coldheart icicle: not if I have anything to say about it, and I do

[hollow shell]

This is a good exchange of words

[languid quartz]

thank you rover

[dense ferry]

Wat

[crude geode]

“Has less variety of attacks”
mfw when PBG has a nuke but is somehow less unique than Duke Dashron.

[dense ferry]

PBG has nothing to do with Duke

Like, only the dashes

And even then, they are very distinct

[crude geode]

PBG also fires projectiles

[dense ferry]

Duke has shark, tornado and dash

PBG has plague summons, Nuke Barrage, Stingers and dashes but on a completely different fashion

[crude geode]

how the fuck does PBG have less ranged attacks then Duke dash Fishron @kindred creek

[dense ferry]

PBG is similar to Queen Bee, after all, it's literally a Mechanized Queen Bee, but it has zero things to do with Duke

[golden narwhal]

No, don't you see, dash = duke fishron, smh

[crude geode]

you right, my b

[dense ferry]

And I honestly think it's a pretty good fight, but that can't really be proven with facts

Oh, I get it now

[golden narwhal]

Also don't see how a pre-duke fishron boss being weaker than duke fishron is a problem

[dense ferry]

Yeah, that statement makes no sense

[grim tusk]

yea is intended before Rav and

[crude geode]

“Golem is weaker than Duke Fishron, even with Calamity buffs “

[ancient mirage]

i like how this looks in light mode

[grim tusk]

Duke was originally intended as a joke super boss in vanilla ofc that sentence doesnt make any sense

the 1.3 came and changed that

but in 1.2.4 def a super boss

[crude geode]

The reason PBG feels pointless is because Post-Plantera to Pre-Moon Lord is crammed with way too much shit.

[grim tusk]

~~move Rav to post Provi and lock bloodstone behind him /s ~~

[grim tusk]

lets see, , , Astrum Oreos, , , Ravhager, , , Astrum Adios and

we need Aureus, Rav and Deus emotes

[crude geode]

Literally double the amount of bosses in vanilla pre-hm

[grim tusk]

[hollow shell]

(I would like to acknowledge that Feedzuh's sugg is very unrealistic
Dunno if it's worth pinging for but it is a bit of an extreme suggestion)

[fossil finch]

Eldritch Tome actually kind of sucks on WoF cuz hungrys just keep respawning and the range is trash

[crude geode]

It’s kind of a big balance rework yeah

[pine star]

yeah

[radiant meadow]

Eldritch Tome has less range and doesn't tile phase iirc.

versus Abyssal Tome

[grim tusk]

how to make Eldrich Tome viable? pog

Eldritch tome is trash

[cobalt pewter]

Tentacle weapons need something unique to them iirc

Also they're not rewarding enough for the range

[crude geode]

Abyssal is imo. Gets pretty good dps against Deus

[hollow shell]

wait

[grim tusk]

@ Ben can we burn the book?

[hollow shell]

Abyssal Tome =/= Tome of Fates

[grim tusk]

would like to see some video evidence cuz theres no way it does good as arcanum

[sleek turret]

^

[cobalt pewter]

Abyssal?

[grim tusk]

yea no they meant fates

abyssal is shit

and tome of fates is pretty bad cuz lack of range

dps good though

[brazen pier]

In my experience so far Eldritch Tome is not trash at all

it completely shredded everything up till WoF

[fossil finch]

I mean, it's a slimegod drop, and slimegod is post Skeletron

It will normally shred everything past it's tier

[brazen pier]

At risk of going on a completely different suggestion I'll leave it at this: I don't think the Slime God is hard enough to justify that strong a drop :/

[whole sedge]

probably should wait to suggest changes for balance until 1.5

[brazen pier]

With a boss like Fishron, he's a big up in difficulty from other bosses of his tier, so it makes sense for his drops to be really strong

yeah good idea

[hollow shell]

I think SG is plenty strong

personally

[hot zephyr]

SG isn't crazy difficult, but none of the pre-hm bosses are

[grim tusk]

deathmode perforators say hi

[earnest cape]

bob says hi

[fossil finch]

Anyways eldritch is shit for its tier

[grim tusk]

[fossil finch]

Small ass range, no piercing

You say i'm supposed to kill wof with that?

[grim tusk]

And in dps its beat by abyssal tome and Clothier’s wrath

Heck maybe even flare bolt, water bolt, shadowdrop, bee gun and demon scythe might out damage it

[brazen pier]

With Luxor's Gift I've found the Eldritch Tome is way higher in DPS than Abyssal

as for Clothier's Wrath, it's a rare weapon variant so it being stronger I can believe

And yeah Eldritch flunks a bit against WoF unless you do a really good job of managing hungries, but in single target DPS it's nearly unmatched

(for its tier ofc)

[fossil finch]

Yeah but there's no important single target thing to fight with it
And then, the problem would be luxors yet again, so you just contradicted the second part of your sugg

[brazen pier]

Yes I did

that second part was wrong

but could we focus on the actual suggestion

[fossil finch]

Well uh
@randomtester is this sugg based

[dapper coral]

We’re not testing pre-ML stuff at all rn

So I would recommend removing this for now and coming back to it at a later date

Once we finish power curve flattening and we say in here “hi hello you can talk about balancing pre-ML stuff again”

[languid quartz]

tbf tho

how many people would go out of their way to get a trident in the first place

[earnest cape]

no one

[languid quartz]

1.4 did it really well with their addition for the trident, it's niche enough to be cool but barely useful

[earnest cape]

unless 1.4 byeah

[safe oasis]

oh never knew it worked in lava too

[earnest cape]

who the fuck took the trident and thought "i wonder if this'll work in lava"

[languid quartz]

never underestimate poseidon

[earnest cape]

[earnest cape]

just add a line like brimmy's laser