#suggestions-discussion

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brittle nexus
cobalt pewter
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That's on pins

brittle nexus
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could be more

cobalt pewter
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and we know no one reads pins

marble hazel
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lmao

brittle nexus
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I can't remember if it was today or yesterday, but almost 10 people were streaming in the vc

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use common sense

cobalt pewter
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Last night for me

summer sentinel
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:/ way to ignore my pin

cobalt pewter
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Discord pins are stupid if you're trying to put something important

hollow shell
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There are currently 4 people streaming

cobalt pewter
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Discord pins boil down to just memes

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Pins should be something you see at default, on the right, who the fuck cares about member list

marble hazel
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read pins before sending a message on discord

hollow shell
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Discord did already implement something of that variety, for servers as a whole

cobalt pewter
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I think there's something like that for rules yes

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But that's about it no?

marble hazel
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i c

cobalt pewter
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Pins are still fucking dumb

summer sentinel
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If there was a way to make a forced popup when you click vc text channels, that'd be godly

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But that much customization won't happen probably

cobalt pewter
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I would suggest replacing member list with pin list, but trying to suggest to Discord is like talking to a brick wall probably

marble hazel
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imagine if 5 cap vc

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oh my

radiant meadow
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I think 20 - 15 - 10 would be smoother than 20 - 15 - 5

foggy plover
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I don't really see the point in it, if you want a smaller VC with just your friends and no randos then go in a private server

marble hazel
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^

foggy plover
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either that or were gonna need a LOT more vcs because there's more than 3 friend groups in this discord

marble hazel
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or just have 1 moderator occasionally move people to other VCs to prevent quarrel

hollow shell
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Well Chill, Ian never said it was so he could talk to friends

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It's cuz 20 people in one channel is too hectic for some people, and it'd give them the option of a calmer VC

rugged belfry
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You know you can turn off the member list, right

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But it'd be cool if you could turn that off and turn on the pins to replace it

hot zephyr
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Calmer VCs without the hassle of trying to break apart groups/move channels.

hot zephyr
cobalt pewter
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Member list can be whatever

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It's not like you're closely looking at it all the time

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Might as well use the wasted space for pins

hot zephyr
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Not like people will read them anyways

cobalt pewter
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At least pins on the right side of the UI will at least put them on their faces

hot zephyr
cobalt pewter
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Then we can blame them for not reading pins on the right

hot zephyr
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(as well as the VC pins but some of them are my posts so I'm biased šŸ˜¤ )

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We can blame them for not reading the pins already KEKW that's just etiquette.

tribal verge
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Yeah I notice sometimes it feels like vc2 and 3 are way more populated then vc1 is

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Vc1 should really be the only one with big dark souls streams with fab and co and vc2 and 3 should be for the smaller streams like touhou or something similar

cobalt pewter
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Fab and Co. moves streams a lot

tribal verge
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Yeah why tf I look away for 10 seconds and they moved to a different one

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Maybe also with this change make vc1 have a 25 member limit to encourage bigger streams there

distant vault
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now

tribal verge
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No

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I'd really welcome this change it'd make the rest of the vcs feel a lot more chill then the 15+ people who are always there when fab is

distant vault
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flashback to my iron heart suggestion

marble hazel
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my guess is that people follow fab where he streams

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so if he's in vc2 10+ people follow

low hedge
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suggestion - make fab invisible

tawny garden
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good sugg ye

earnest cape
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you just fucking hear fab talking from the beyond

distant vault
tawny garden
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tf kalamary's pfp is Chetty

sharp prism
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tfw philo uses his face as a pfp

distant vault
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lounge moment

sharp prism
tawny garden
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my face is magnificent

sharp prism
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red hat

warm scarab
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how does this suggestion look

Move Star Cannon's Progression to Post-Skeletron

we all know star cannon deals the highest ranged damage in pre hardmode, shoots quite fast, pierces infinitely and consumes fallen stars as ammunition, which is kind of hard to collect. but with some QoL mods and the ability to get this weapon and it's ammo pre boss(technically post eater according to vanilla and no hit progression), this high damage, infinite piercing weapon can easily shred pre hardmode bosses up to skeletron(even in death mode), which just makes other ranged weapons useless. With decent armor penetration/crit you can even use it on mechs/mech alts(cryogen and as, brimmy not included tho) without any problem. My suggestion is adding post-skeletron crafting materials to the crafting recipe of star cannon to delay the point where you obtain this powerful weapon. Some players use to make sky bridges in pre hardmode just to collect stars for this overpowered weapon instead of collecting resources for other upgrades and weapons, but if the weapon is moved to a later stage then players will have enough time to collect other resources as well as getting some stars as side quest(personal reference: i normally get around 200 stars from start of game up to skeletron assuming none is used, which is just enough for the rest of pre hardmode).

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i'm not about to post it yet

solid tartan
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I think the QoL thing doesn't make sense like, I can literally put a mod that gives me the ability to change my weapons damage and it would still be a QoL mod. The player is the one that can choose whether or not to use such mods.

warm scarab
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lol

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the problem is

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even if i don't use the mod

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if i want to use the weapon i can just make a skybridge and collect as much stars as i can

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and get ammo reservation as well as ammo box

cobalt pewter
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I think they were referring to an existing sugg in posting

warm scarab
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?

cobalt pewter
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In any case

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Oh wait

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Yeah I'm dumb

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Don't try to refer to other QoL mods for this kinda sugg

warm scarab
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ok

cobalt pewter
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Also if they truly worked for the star farming, they should probably be fine with a reward which is that dumb weapon, tho idk really

glad axle
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I understand what your getting at. But at the end of the day. you don't have to use it.

zenith hazel
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if you're willing to build a skybridge that spans the entire world, then you deserve a fuck load of stars for spending your time

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although you will get punished for that in hm, sorta tohru_shrug

cobalt pewter
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Hahayes

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Funni astral

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Though you can kinda circumvent it by wiring all of them with actuators post-Skelly no?

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In any case

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Not sure if gating the weapon is needed

glad axle
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It's not.

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It kinda gates itself

warm scarab
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with a hoik skybridge kind of thing you can get about 200 stars per night

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which means

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you only need 1 in game day to make a farm and wait 3 nights o be able to get thru almost all of pre hardmode in the next in game day

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which is overpowered

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i once did it

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not proud of it

earnest cape
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Well yeah it's obviously overpowered, you're willing to place hundreds of blocks and hammering like half of it

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It takes a crap ton of work so it deserves to be overpowered

fossil finch
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"It costs a lot so it's op" is not a good design

earnest cape
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Satisfying as hell to use tho

tawny garden
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hoiks are a featureā„¢ļø

earnest cape
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At this point yeh

tawny garden
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they refused to fix it

earnest cape
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They would probably break the already broken thing if they did choose to do it

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unless they wanna rewrite the whole code

tawny garden
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which they should've

earnest cape
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indeed

earnest cape
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That sugg that just went into voting

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Thats

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Fucking cursed

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You already need ten thousand iq to predict if they would go up or go down

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And bh5 is already cluttered enough already

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I just realized i said already twice

tawny garden
earnest cape
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Figures

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The ? Reveals it all

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And mobile being a dick and showing invalid-user

tawny garden
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get off mobile smh

earnest cape
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I cant get on my laptop ://

finite orchid
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yay Im unmuted again

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time to get muted again

radiant meadow
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This isn't a challenge to break as many rules as you can.

earnest cape
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Ban%

tawny garden
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ech there would've been no suggs in posting for a short while

earnest cape
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i feel this would be counterintuitive in a way where its too complex for regular players

cobalt pewter
earnest cape
tawny garden
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ok

radiant meadow
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It's not an undefined amount of time

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You get fast fall for 5 seconds or until you hit the ground.

cobalt pewter
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Oh wait yea

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Lemme fix that rq

earnest cape
cobalt pewter
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Byeah, I personally think toggled fall speed boosts are used a lot more in short, controllable bursts

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Like with the 2 mounts I mentioned

worthy lintel
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why isn't the fast fall permanent though

earnest cape
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Because

worthy lintel
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you sacrifice an entire acc slot to achieve something 2 mounts in the game do way better already

earnest cape
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Balancing

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Or smth idk

worthy lintel
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and one of said mounts is acquired on the first boss in the game

earnest cape
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It just has a nice niche that isnt developed completely ig

cobalt pewter
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That's a fair way to put it

worthy lintel
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idk how bad it would break the sabatons to have permanent free fall, flying mounts are pretty rigid

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and consume flight time

finite orchid
tawny garden
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don't try then

radiant meadow
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Just follow the rules like a normal person.

finite orchid
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Im just saying that my point should at least be considered

cobalt pewter
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If the sabaton free fall would consume flight time (and maybe without a defined limit), it would have a natural limit from flight time that scales as you go

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Yharon lore with this be like, oh wait, lores are dying

worthy lintel
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cryo lore meta is no more

earnest cape
worthy lintel
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so, stealth god

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you suggest infinite free fall that eats wing time to compensate?

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or i read it completely wrong

cobalt pewter
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In a sense yes

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Idk about the current limit

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It can def stay if the intention of limiting the efficiency of the acc throughout progression is brought upon

worthy lintel
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to be fair maybe we could just straight up remove the gravistar stomp

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a measly 300 dmg post aureus is cringe

cobalt pewter
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I did also mention to improve on the stomp as you used more of the flight time for the fall

worthy lintel
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oh, damage going up as you lose more flight time

cobalt pewter
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That can be one, but I didn't specify which stats

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Could be dmg, could be radius

worthy lintel
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prolly radius since the stomp doesn't give you iframes

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so you just get hit

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actually both

cobalt pewter
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Both might be preferable to me byeah

worthy lintel
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since its post aureus and on a cooldown

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i would atleast say 1000 damage

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easily

cobalt pewter
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Don't wanna go into specifics, but having the damage a bit higher at base and way higher when you're totally using your flight time for it can be epic

worthy lintel
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idk im just spitballing

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sabatons are great on paper but absolute ass in practice

earnest cape
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Moment

worthy lintel
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omw to prove sabatons are cringe

earnest cape
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You dont need to

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They're already cringe ngl fr tbh iirc imo

worthy lintel
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you were right

hot zephyr
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I think the bot broke.

fossil finch
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off by two minutes
Three
yeah it's broken

tawny garden
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no, it just needs to wake up

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wash its face

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get coffee

fossil finch
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oh yeah

hot zephyr
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who's gonna ping?

zenith hazel
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it is fixed

tawny garden
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ping who

radiant meadow
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It wasn't broken.

hot zephyr
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Slow bot angere

sharp prism
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no

tawny garden
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@celest laurel no specific item suggestions

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and read the doc

sleek turret
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and uhh, joke/meme sugg

tawny garden
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@zenith hazel :KILL:

pine star
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@kindred creek I thought the Murasama spam click was fixed

kindred creek
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i'm pretty sure it's still in the game

pine star
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What version of Calamity are you playing?
Tell me the number

kindred creek
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idk, not on windows rn

hot zephyr
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I'm 99% sure it was fixed

pine star
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same

kindred creek
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oh

hot zephyr
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I'd keep the suggestion up though

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Wait actually

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Every post-ML weapon is basically getting rebalanced in 1.5

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Therefore, balance suggs are kinda irrelevant, right?

kindred creek
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i'll still leave it up tho

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in case there is more stuff to say about it

fossil finch
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spam click was fixed yeah

fossil finch
tawny garden
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Yeah

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Post-ML Balancing is being taken care of already

hollow shell
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I'll exclam it cuz of the two (three?) reasons above

summer sentinel
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oh- well everyone said what I was gonna say OmegaFailure but yeah

radiant meadow
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Spam clicking doesn't do anything anymore.

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I fixed it.

rugged belfry
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I don't think you should mention autoclicking. Technically, using an autoclicker for almost anything makes it powerful.

crude geode
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Well the vanilla tweak suggestion got through.

tawny garden
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no reason for it to not go

crude geode
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Besides the fact itā€™s incredibly vague and has very little reasoning?

hollow shell
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It is a bit minimal

tawny garden
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eh

hollow shell
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If/When it fails in a week I'll ping em to repost it with more effort

tawny garden
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I know what's wrong with it, but it can stay

gaunt quest
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Ravanger is kinda golem clone but way harder lol

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I actually don't even recall there being fireballs when I fought it I guess they weren't very noticeable lol

distant vault
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Fire pillars.

cobalt pewter
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There are fireballs coming from destroyed arms

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Which is unnoticeable unless nohit

earnest cape
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just see your screen 4head

earnest cape
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you still have

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frozen slime blocks

craggy stratus
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Should wait till the change actually happen before posting the sugg

earnest cape
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OH WAIT YEAH

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doesn't this file under a "don't"

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for future content

dire loom
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heck

earnest cape
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should read the pins once in a while ngl

cobalt pewter
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Future Content yea

earnest cape
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can you ping mod I'm too much of a pussy

cobalt pewter
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@summer sentinel

summer sentinel
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Yeah that's a don't, I'll just delete the sugg as upcoming content can be changed

earnest cape
summer sentinel
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@dire loom so you see the above^

dire loom
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yep

tawny garden
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Holy fuck

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Get your gramophones, lads

summer sentinel
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I think this is a don't

tawny garden
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not really

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which

eternal escarp
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(might just be the sugg itself is a dont?)

summer sentinel
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well from just reading it, a calamity vinyl is something that's not going to happen just, realistically?

tawny garden
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True

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Though I think there's a stronger reason against the sugg

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DM DOKURO doesn't want to do anything for calamity anymore

ancient willow
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that was the main thing that I thought about. Which kinda sucks but I understand.

tawny garden
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can you record smth on vinyl yourself?

frail mantle
tawny garden
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Oh fuck

frail mantle
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anyway yeah vinyls probably aren't happening because Dok is done with terraria in general + could be too expensive to make compared to how many people would actually buy the vinyls

tawny garden
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Holy shit

hollow shell
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Dokuro is still selling the album

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There's potential but yeah it'll prolly be expensive

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Maybe for one big special event we could contact someone with the tech and knowhow to make like, 10 of them
And have some kind of giveaway or contest for em

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Wouldn't be something to sell regularly

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I think.

summer sentinel
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oh neat

ancient willow
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it would be cool but also kinda sad that odds are most wouldnt be able to get one

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but I would still hope to see it happen

cobalt pewter
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Too costly to fill just a small niche

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Probably a worse idea than cal plushies imo

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At least you're not required to own a gramophone to totally use one

crude geode
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Vinyls are incredibly niche tbfh

cobalt pewter
pine star
craggy stratus
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Vinyl thonk

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Sound like something i would get in an apocalypse

sleek turret
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calamity mod instructive tutorial for beginers vhs cassete deepthonk

tawny garden
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that's for films

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smh

pine star
tawny garden
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calamity tutorial

pine star
rugged belfry
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Calamity lore for Audible when

sleek turret
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just go to google translator and copy paste all the lore and click it to listen it audible.

earnest cape
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Fear.

sharp prism
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thats one way to do it

rugged belfry
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okay

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imma do that rn

tawny garden
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oh god

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why google translate

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why not a text-to-speech program

sleek turret
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Bonzi Buddy TTS reads the entire Calamity Lore.

rugged belfry
radiant meadow
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(Let's not stray offtopic now please)

rugged belfry
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kk

grim tusk
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#suggestions-posting message
Murasama is really overrated, if you consider that op oh boy you dont know theres some that are way better, 1.5 is gonna rebalance everything and Murasamaā€™s insane drawback its the short range it has. It does have the potential to deal a lot of damage but its really hard to do specially on rev+ where scal is harder to reach due to all the projectiles

pine star
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yeah

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Also the spam click issue got fixed

cobalt pewter
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Murasama's range is short?

grim tusk
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Compared to everyting in the tier yes

cobalt pewter
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For true melee that's a lot man

pine star
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Short compared to other stuff

grim tusk
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Except phaseslayer

frail mantle
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half your screen is short compared to anything with a projectile

sleek turret
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Considering the distance between SCal and the Player.

cobalt pewter
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I hate Meleeā„¢

sleek turret
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Its ehh, kinda "medium" range.

cobalt pewter
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Also scal gets drunk if you're holding true melee

sleek turret
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Yeah.

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I mean you can hit SCal without making her become drunk.

pine star
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Drunk?
Don't you mean high?

tawny garden
sleek turret
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ofc that works for True Melee only.

tawny garden
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in which case you're intrinsically incapable of that

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and not because the weapons are bad

sleek turret
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dash infront scal face when she's fixed at you.

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or dash backwards

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will make you force scal to get slightly closer to you capable of getting to Murasama's range.

tawny garden
pine star
sleek turret
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ouch.

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lets uhh, get back to suggestions.

tawny garden
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yeah

cobalt pewter
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...yes

mint orchid
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Ooooh

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I get what you said

tawny garden
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As far as code goes, it's true melee

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But in reality it has no right to be true melee

cobalt pewter
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omw pinging Kirn

grim tusk
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Oh we disscused muramasaā€™s viability long ago, he ranked it C tier but was fine if it was considered B

pine star
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Muramasa?

sleek turret
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yes

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muramasa

grim tusk
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We ended up agreeing on low B tier at the end of that

pine star
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yeah

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I think Murasama is like Bloon Solver in BTD6

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Does one thing well, and REALLY FUCKING WELL

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Can't do much apart from that one thing

grim tusk
pine star
grim tusk
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Those values are assuming you can hit her without getting hit and glass cannon btw

pine star
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oh

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That's still massive damage though

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So I guess Murasama is basically First Strike Capability

grim tusk
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Non consistent though

pine star
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yeah

grim tusk
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Also sucks in ph2

pine star
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I guess so

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I used Murasama only for brimstone hearts, and AotC for everything else

violet dagger
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What who killled sadcat noooo

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Guess we'll just have to live with DoGCri

hardy dock
pine star
grim tusk
pine star
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PLEASE STOP FLEXING

hardy dock
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oh yeah just flex on us boohoo

grim tusk
summer sentinel
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sadcat can not exist

pine star
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Give me a good reason that sadcat can not exist

summer sentinel
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overused excessively

pine star
grim tusk
violet dagger
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Brav was only the messenger hage

pine star
grim tusk
summer sentinel
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messenger for the rest of staff yeah

violet dagger
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for those of you who don't know what I'm talking about my sadcat suggestion got denied

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Sad times

pine star
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very sad

tawny garden
dapper coral
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unfortunate

river glen
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what about to insnatly spawn a siren, like a siren lure

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cuz sometimes it spawns

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sometimes it decides

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nah

grim tusk
tawny garden
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If it decides to not spawn, fight smth else

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Accept your fate

grim tusk
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Perhaps made with a drop from or dropped by ???

fossil finch
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do you need more than 1 try for anahita and levi

grim tusk
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armaggedon yes, deathmode maybe

summer sentinel
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@mental vigil wrong channel?

mental vigil
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oh

tawny garden
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uh

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Why wasn't the message deleted yet

dapper coral
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@summer sentinel can u remove message

summer sentinel
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oh lmao, I forgot that part

tawny garden
dapper coral
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thamk

tawny garden
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gg

summer sentinel
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welc sweating

finite orchid
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Quick question, why do you guys always seem to mute me when I try to have a conversation about my suggestion?

tawny garden
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because it was against the rules, and you tried to defend it with another suggestion

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which was also against the rules

cloud pier
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Im fucking dying of laughter rn

void kelp
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youā€™re complicit too and can easily get muted for continuing this nonsense

tawny garden
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just drop it and move on to something else @finite orchid

terse sundial
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(they've been banned for mute evasion btw)

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(so just drop it)

tawny garden
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huh

hardy dock
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im fixing it

radiant meadow
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Make sure it's not a bug report

hardy dock
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i accidentally hit enter too early

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its not

radiant meadow
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because bugs don't belong in suggestions

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@prisma plank You're not allowed to suggest a specific item to be added, nor are you allowed to suggest something for the sake of a reference.

tawny garden
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(also meme sugg)

radiant meadow
prisma plank
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rip

summer sentinel
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not a single DK reference, thorium how could you

radiant meadow
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Calamity has a DK reference already.

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so no complaining

hardy dock
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took a while but im done wegud

summer sentinel
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really? don't tell me what it is though

prisma plank
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i know but da bongos would be funny

sleek turret
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ah yes the DK reference

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its blast barrel I think?

radiant meadow
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and its upgrade yeah

prisma plank
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bro they said dont tell me lmao

tawny garden
summer sentinel
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I was just about say it was the barrel but forgot its name

dapper coral
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i don't think #1 is relevant at all tbh

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you really should have blossom by that point

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there's like, 2 or 3 bosses in between provi and dog

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and you need it for auric anyhow

summer sentinel
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well, think of progression skipping right into postml

dapper coral
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i don't see why you wouldn't get it right away

hardy dock
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there have been a lot of runs where I simply couldn't find a enough Uelibloom

summer sentinel
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you can technically fight DoG before prov atm

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(it drops in jungle crates post prov)

radiant meadow
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If you couldn't find enough Uelibloom you probably weren't searching in the jungle hard enough

dapper coral
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it's not that hard to find in all honesty, unless you're playing on small worldsize

radiant meadow
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World size isn't even an issue. There should be plenty.

sleek turret
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fishing on jungle exists too.

dapper coral
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and even if you are progression breaking, crates exist

hardy dock
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I never get enough

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Maybe its just bad luck tho

dapper coral
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or you can go kill provi with post-dog gear which should be easy af

radiant meadow
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You still need to kill Providence.

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Regardless of how you want to obtain it.

sleek turret
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Jungle crates give a decent amout of uelibloom.

prisma plank
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wait people are out here killing dog before yharon

sleek turret
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Hmm, perphaps maybe.

tawny garden
#

you still have to go through the grind of getting the Forge
well you have to do it anyway, and it's not like you need to do that multiple times

prisma plank
#

I thought it went providence polterghast the bird then yharon then dog

dapper coral
#

^

prisma plank
#

have I been doing it wrong

dapper coral
#

it's folly to provi to polter to dog to yharon

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is standard progression

prisma plank
#

Cuz ive been stuck on yharon for forever

tawny garden
#

(also who the hell makes furniture before the weapons & armor)

grim tusk
bitter drift
#

are suggestion to add an auric tesla weapon allowed?

swift wharf
#

Pretty sure it's a SIS

bitter drift
#

SIS?

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i'm returning after a long time

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so does that mean it's allowed to be suggested or not?

hollow shell
#

Look at the pinned "Dont's" google doc

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It's the first rule now

swift wharf
#

Specific Item Suggestion

bitter drift
#

not really

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i am not stating what weapon it will be

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only what subclass it should be

hollow shell
#

You can ask for a new Auric-tier to be added, yeah

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As long as you don't go into specifics

bitter drift
#

how specific can i go tho?
like if i state a subclass is that allowed?

radiant meadow
#

but you can't suggest a weapon be added for the sake of completing a subclass

hollow shell
#

(and as long as the reason isn't so that your subclass-only playthrough is made more viable)

radiant meadow
#

so you can't say suggest Auric Spear because I want to do a spear-only run

hollow shell
#

Yeah stating the class / subclass you want it to be is allowed

bitter drift
#

it's not for the sake of completing a subclass i most see it as a missed opertunaty

hollow shell
#

But you gotta back it up with good reason

bitter drift
#

like: you mean to tell me the ONLY post moon lord boss that seems like it can be balanced and fair with sentries weapons does not have a sentry weapon at it's tier?

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Scal makes an arena for herself and the devs did not think about adding a sentry weapon there?

hollow shell
#

That is something you can suggest yeah

bitter drift
#

so i am posting it

civic pond
#

woah

hollow shell
#

Makes sense

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(SCal is female though)

civic pond
#

actually thats a good point too

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afaik the latest game sentry is..

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energy staff?

tawny garden
#

yeah

radiant meadow
#

Cadaverous Carrion

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the Old Duke sentry

hollow shell
#

Carrion yeah

bitter drift
grim tusk
hollow shell
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If you don't count the ones that are bound to the player

civic pond
#

oh right

tawny garden
grim tusk
#

Carrion and Guidelight are the best sentries

civic pond
#

well i was thinking of just

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sentry sentries

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bound to the player counts i guess

radiant meadow
#

If they take minion slots, they're not sentries.

bitter drift
hollow shell
#

Fair enough

bitter drift
#

so they can't shoot the boss so much

#

normal summons flail around with you and the boss

grim tusk
bitter drift
#

ya

grim tusk
#

They are fucking shit on every other boss

bitter drift
#

they also tend to do the worst to the worms

grim tusk
#

On DoG carrion and Energy did better than them

bitter drift
#

as i said you and the boss flail around the world meanwhile the sentries might as well be stand byes watching the fight like a movie

grim tusk
#

And thats why u use energy staff besides energy also dealing more damage

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Even after the massive nerf they got

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Also speaking of sentries on Scal
Carrion needs Scal directly above it and often needs to be repositioned to make it do something when she is in the upper half, Guidelight doesnt have this problem but deals less damage

bitter drift
#

things is Carrion is a post OLD DUKE weapon

grim tusk
bitter drift
#

why would you use a weapon from POST DUKE on Scal

grim tusk
#

Free 3k-30k (glass cannon ye) dps

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That doesnt cosume minion slots hahaech

tawny garden
#

currently, 3k dps at pre-scal is nothing

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though next update is cool

dapper coral
#

that's still low probably
3k is like, ML-level dps

zenith hazel
#

Iā€™m 100% against a new sentry helmet

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just because of how stupid those are

grim tusk
#

Just make Silva+ give sentry slots hahaech

zenith hazel
#

but a new sentry is acceptable enough

summer sentinel
#

silva getting sentry slots would be pain
new sentry that's post yharon or post dog is viable, but adding a new helmet just for is unneeded imo

bitter drift
#

i an not saying the other armors should gain a sentry helmet

dapper coral
#

i would recommend just changing to sentry weapon, yea
because it'll have a better chance of passing dev votes (if it ever gets there)

zenith hazel
#

but you are saying ā€œadd another sentry helmetā€

bitter drift
#

just the AT one
perhaps it should even be free if you made the normal summoner helmet

zenith hazel
#

which is unnecessary

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especially auric

summer sentinel
#

having a new sentry past that of carrion would be nice, but for a helmet^

bitter drift
#

i can understand

zenith hazel
#

also I donā€™t fully understand what the reasoning is

bitter drift
#

i explained it better here

zenith hazel
#

how does the reason relate to needing a new sentry helmet?

bitter drift
#

first of all: it's not for the sake of completing a subclass i most see it as a missed opportunity
like: you mean to tell me the ONLY post moon lord boss that seems like it can be balanced and fair with sentries weapons does not have a sentry weapon at it's tier?
Scal makes an arena for herself and the devs did not think about adding a sentry weapon there?

bitter drift
#

i though the weapon

zenith hazel
#

I understand the reason has something to do with a new wep at least

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but nothing related to helmet, really

bitter drift
#

ok my reasoning for the helmet is that the AT summon helmet is not build for sentries at all

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i had 2 idea in mind for that and went with one

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my other idea was to say they should buff the summoner helmet to make the sentry more viable at the level but i thought that will be too stacked and too much on one helmet

zenith hazel
#

so are you saying that auric needs to have sentry bonuses?

bitter drift
#

ya

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abit

hollow shell
#

Sentry bonuses can be added to the existing summon helmet rather than adding a new one

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That should be fine

bitter drift
#

i guess so
as i said i had 2 idea and went with one

zenith hazel
#

yea, go ahead and edit your suggestion then

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making a new helmet would require more effort in terms of spriting but also balancing due to us having to balance around 2 separate playstyles

bitter drift
#

changed

zenith hazel
#

bot's down, notified amber

summer sentinel
#

@zenith hazel good job not deleting it in posting smh

zenith hazel
#

I'm busy ok

summer sentinel
#

understandable, I got ur back

civic notch
#

Wtf give it back to him

summer sentinel
#

no mine

tawny garden
hot zephyr
#

The wizard sells Magic Missile

grim tusk
#

^
@bold pagoda

bold pagoda
#

i

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am

#

a

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dumbass

dapper coral
#

welcome to the club HDfailure

tawny garden
#

ye

dapper coral
#

but seriously don't worry about it lol

summer sentinel
#

(I'll delete the sugg now, dw about it, mistakes happen lol)

bold pagoda
#

also about that health bar suggestion from yesterday, i think it would be a great improvement, bosses like skeletron and the slime god already have extra info displayed, so there's clearly a system there, id imagine it wouldnt be that hard to add info for other bosses

worthy lintel
#

i do admit changing the color / design of the bar based on boss phase would be a nice way to indicate the phase without spoiling them

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but it looks like some spriting job here

pine star
#

@strange barn Specific item suggestions are not allowed

strange barn
golden narwhal
#
  1. Godslayer is already planned (art server)
  2. Demonshade wings are a don't (shadowspec items are for devs)
pine star
golden narwhal
#

If you isolated it to a sugg for bloodflare wings, ig it'd be fine

zenith hazel
#

also tarragon + elysian wings already exist

#

so the whole ā€œonly tracers till post-DoGā€ is invalid

strange barn
#

ok

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welp

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i am gonna delete my stuff

#

lets wait until i get a better idea i guess lol

earnest cape
#

question is will people read pins OmegaFailure

summer sentinel
#

about that...... debatable

civic notch
#

First off

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The CAL lore doc was unpinned

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As itā€™s getting reworked

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re-Pinning it still might be a good idea tho

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Actually no thatā€™s it

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The rest I like

cobalt pewter
#

Pins are useless

crude geode
#

Cal Lore has been getting reworked for like a year

civic notch
#

It will continue to get reworked until the final content update or so

marble hazel
#

lol do people even read pins

cobalt pewter
#

I'd blame Discord for that

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For making pin access so fucking obscure

crude geode
hollow shell
#

I don't know much about the lore overhaul but I assume the basic stuff aint gonna change
Xeroc still God, Noxus still black hole monster satan, Draedon still robot alien who's Yharim's chief engineer, etc

cobalt pewter
#

And Yharim is still depresso auric man

hollow shell
#

who had a big conquest but bit off more than he could chew and came to regret his past actions

hot zephyr
#

Lore rework: We're making Anahita's arms blue.

hollow shell
#

Lore rework: Uhhh, meow?

hot zephyr
summer sentinel
#

wrong lore OmegaFailure I think

hot zephyr
#

No, no, he's right

tawny garden
dreamy drift
#

Lore rework: Crabulon has buff arms

earnest cape
#

Noxus still black hole monster satan

#

the official description

hollow shell
#

It's true tho

earnest cape
#

heuh

sharp prism
#

better than the tl;dr noxus egg copypasta

frail mantle
#

correct

jolly fable
#

If I can suggest something, maybe add more music boxes from Dokuro's calamity playlist

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I think it should be cool

bitter drift
#

i am pretty sure another mod cover that

jolly fable
#

oh

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didn't know that

hollow shell
#

Yeah there is another mod which does that
We won't add that to Calamity cuz it'd make the music mod take up even more filesize

jolly fable
#

okey okey

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makes sense for me

sharp prism
#

make a second music mod: Calamity Mod Music: 2 Box.

jolly fable
#

yes

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xd

tawny garden
#

Music mod 2 electric boogaloo

bitter drift
#

xD

marble hazel
#

no way

cobalt pewter
#

@bitter drift with the curve flattening changes coming to 1.5, Carrion might work on SCal

#

Plus with the less focus on minion slots in 1.5, sentries generally is much more workable without specific armors

bitter drift
cobalt pewter
#

Now, maybe not. In 1.5, that might be possible

bitter drift
cobalt pewter
#

Since the less crazy jump in dps

bitter drift
#

but also the less crazy jump in damage

crude geode
#

Subclass weapon bad

bitter drift
#

there is no subclass weapon there yet

crude geode
#

Making a subclass viable at a certain point is a donā€™t

bitter drift
#

but Scal makes her self an arena
why isn't there a weapon that excale at small arena against the boss that makes for herself a small arena

bitter drift
crude geode
#

Ok but like even if sentries would theoretically be good there, sentries are in fact a subclass.

bitter drift
#

ok but the suggestion is not BASED in the idea of making the subclass viable there

#

THAT's a don't

cobalt pewter
#

Technically you're asking for a subclass (sentry) to even work at a certain point (Yharon / SCal)

bitter drift
#

if you go down to it and dig down to the underworld? yes, yes i kanda am
but that was not the starting point\

crude geode
#

except it is

#

Itā€™s the title of your suggestion

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ā€œbuff the normal AT summoner helmet to make sentries viable as wellā€

earnest cape
bitter drift
#

i guess my choice of words was wrong here

tawny garden
#

(It doesn't feel like a don't to me)

earnest cape
#

Just not talking directly at it ig

#

Ye

bitter drift
#

F for me

earnest cape
#

Feels off but doesnt feel like a don't

tawny garden
#

Reword it a bit

crude geode
#

Remove the last bit of it and itā€™ll be fine

#

Of buffing the AT helmet

tawny garden
#

Motivation to reword the sugg: @crude geode and @cobalt pewter will stop yelling

bitter drift
#

how do i word it right tho

earnest cape
tawny garden
#

Just

sharp prism
#

by wording it correctly

crude geode
#

Literally just remove the last half about buffing the AT helmet

tawny garden
#

"Add a sentry"

bitter drift
sharp prism
#

yup

cobalt pewter
tawny garden
#

Dank is just trying to be annoying

#

Ignore him

bitter drift
#

face palm, more face palms... the entire world face palm

hot zephyr
sharp prism
tawny garden
cobalt pewter
#

Okay dank can you not

#

Thanks.

sharp prism
#

ye

bitter drift
#

just how will i word it
"to give bonuses to sentry based weapons?"
btw when i typed that viable part i was talking about the 2nd part of the suggestion (buffing the normal summoner helmet)

cobalt pewter
#

It's still a sugg to make sentries (subclass) viable at a certain point(s) in the game

#

To be fair minion damage also boosts sentries

tawny garden
#

The don't should be reworded imo

bitter drift
#

but it doesn't give you the +X smount of sentries slots

cobalt pewter
#

Just that you don't get slots, and cal sentries are mostly balanced with having one active

bitter drift
#

really?

cobalt pewter
#

OOA is just a fucky wucky event

earnest cape
#

Yeah its pretty krinj

bitter drift
#

cal sentrys are balanced like that

earnest cape
#

(To only 1 sentry slot)

bitter drift
#

so i guess i should delete the 2nd part all together

hot zephyr
#

I don't understand why sentries need to be changed. You're supposed to use them w/ other summons to compliment your damage, not complete it.

crude geode
#

Mainly about the AT buff and everything after just adding a sentry yes

hot zephyr
#

OD's sentry is like... really good isn't it? I thought it was or at least used to be

cobalt pewter
#

Due to the curve, OD drops have bad sustainability

earnest cape
#

They're underpowered

cobalt pewter
#

But maybe with 1.5 it's workable on scal

hot zephyr
#

And that's being changed

earnest cape
#

Ooa sentries that is

bitter drift
#

here i deleted the 2nd part of the suggestion.

earnest cape
#

They arent balanced to calamity standards

hot zephyr
#

if you're using OOA sentries on scal you've got a bigger problem

earnest cape
cobalt pewter
bitter drift
#

i used them once

#

on queen bee

#

it was fun

#

i had to play strategically and be around them

cobalt pewter
#

Also this just sounds like the job for a donor item

#

See: Oracle

tawny garden
#

Feedza

hot zephyr
#

Feedzuh

tawny garden
#

No

hot zephyr
#

Donor weapons aren't real anymore

bitter drift
tawny garden
#

We don't speak of them

#

ffs

marble hazel
#

no those are dev weapons

cobalt pewter
#

it's just temporarily retired

hot zephyr
#

They killed them right as I was going to submit my mage/true melee combo armor

tawny garden
#

Not in sugg chats

cobalt pewter
hot zephyr
cobalt pewter
#

h

sharp prism
hot zephyr
#

Right now I'm pretty sure the backlog somehow gets longer with every hour that passes

tawny garden
#

Also ffs @cobalt pewter you can't have a pre-SCal donor item even if/when they resume the donor items

sharp prism
#

"somehow"

cobalt pewter
#

oh yea

#

In any case Carrion should do for 1.5 when curve is reasonably flattened

hot zephyr
#

Carrion is already better than having no Carrion

cobalt pewter
#

yes

#

Idk I don't play sentry often

#

Cringe subclass without much interest in gameplay design

#

It's either they're useless, spammable shit, or OOA armors

hot zephyr
#

"it's like a minion.... but we broke its legs"

crude geode
#

what legs

#

Half of them fly HDfailure

#

The minions with legs suck ass

hot zephyr
#

guns with legs as a minion plez

cobalt pewter
earnest cape
#

Imagine fucking arbalest with a leg

#

Wait fuck

#

That was worded poorly CompleteFailure

sharp prism
#

lmao

cobalt pewter
crude geode
bitter drift
#

imagine the ocean bomb staff being able to talk or fly

earnest cape
#

Fear.

earnest cape
bitter drift
#

planttera is sweating

#

speaking of her
if she did not have a sentry then i would have suggest one for her as well
because planterra and calamitas are the same in the arena regard

#

or at least similar

hot zephyr
#

so uh
what's topic

bitter drift
hot zephyr
#

same.

bitter drift
#

one is either my suggestion is still in talk
the 2nd option are walking sentries

marble hazel
#

walking sentries is literally just minions lmao

earnest cape
#

Walking sentries you mean actually summins?

bitter drift
#

no i mean the sentries we have but they can walk

earnest cape
#

So ground minions

marble hazel
#

ohhhh

#

so like an add-on feature

#

but that would actually defeat the purpose of them being sentries and not minions lol

bitter drift
earnest cape
#

Technically yes

bitter drift
#

? ? ?

earnest cape
#

They're a minion classified as a sentry thats on the ground

#

So technically

bitter drift
#

they can be placed in the air

earnest cape
#

They're useless in the air

#

You're talking about dreadmine right

bitter drift
#

ya

#

but one thing is always true

#

no matter if it's in the air water or land if there are many enemies or one
planterra will ALWAYS sweat when she see a dread mine

weak field
#

Is it a good suggestion to change the name of alchohol sold by drunk princess to resemble juice instead of liquors

tribal verge
#

yes

weak field
#

Almost got kil in school when I was buying alchohol off of her and the teacher saw me

pine star
#

IN SCHOOL?

tribal verge
#

the children cant see alcohol it will corrupt them

weak field
#

I don't get the entire thing about no alchohol in children's game thing

#

But it's there

tribal verge
#

yeah

weak field
#

Wait no never mind sorry

#

The tavernkeeper exists

tribal verge
#

also make her boobas smaller kids cant see big hukandoks

tawny garden
#

Uh

#

Well, the sugg would be valid

#

Though it's alcohol

tribal verge
#

what would she be called then if they removed the alcohol LuWuThinking

tawny garden
#

((Also if I were you, I would've told my teacher that they suck))

fossil finch
#

you shouldn't play at school man

rugged belfry
weak field
#

yeah but cavernkeep exists

weak field
rugged belfry
# weak field yeah but cavernkeep exists

Terraria is rated 13+
For some reason they allow alcohol in 13+ games, which is kinda risky but hopefully any kids who play it know not to drink already (which they should considering I personally learned about the risks in like 4th grade)

fossil finch
#

terraria is NOT a children's game anyways yeah

weak field
#

Yeah should've known from nymphs

cobalt pewter
#

Master Bait.

rugged belfry
#

Huntress' Jerkin

#

There's a third but I can't remember

fossil finch
#

G o l d e n S h o w e r

pine star
#

Mourning WOOD

rugged belfry
#

That's it

#

and golden shower

crude geode
#

Terraria: Karen Safe Mode.

fossil finch
#

i mean there's a whole biome based of gore

pine star
rugged belfry
#

Yep

#

And a boss that is literally a wall of human flesh

valid swallow
#

time to turn alchohol into soft drink

tawny garden
valid swallow
#

wall of flesh is now the wall of wall

rugged belfry
#

and the zombies that explode into their guts

valid swallow
#

zombies explode into bunnies

#

the crimson is removed

rugged belfry
#

The crimson is made of candy

tawny garden
#

here comes another hour of debating which features need to be deleted because children

#

this has already happened in this place

rugged belfry
#

We're not debating

#

We're joking

#

None of it should be removed

valid swallow
#

guns are bad

#

all guns are nerf guns

rugged belfry
#

Yes

#

Water guns

valid swallow
#

and therefore are orange and yellow

tawny garden
#

people were talking in this channel about this unironically

rugged belfry
#

Swords are pool noodles now

valid swallow
#

yep

pine star
valid swallow
#

zenith is all the pool noodles

#

phoenix blaster is replaced with a jolt

rugged belfry
#

All enemies are bunnies

valid swallow
#

eye of cuthulu is now made of lego

#

goblins drop lego

tawny garden
#

offtopic

valid swallow
#

instead of spike balls

rugged belfry
#

No too violent

valid swallow
#

ye

rugged belfry
#

They drop crayons

valid swallow
#

they drop pillows

rugged belfry
#

Yep

#

Mourning Wood becomes Christmas Tree

earnest cape
#

offtopic

tawny garden
#

stop this pls

valid swallow
#

ok

pulsar rose
#

i suggest a gun named gun

tawny garden
#

no

tribal verge
pulsar rose
#

But why not

tribal verge
#

the docā„¢ļø

earnest cape
#

There used to be a gun named "Gun"

#

Its called soma prime now

visual wigeon
#

Be careful who you bully in high school

hollow shell
#

This seems like a pretty specific interaction to nerf

#

Tricky situation

dapper coral
#

this feels like it would be better off just nerfing belladonna to begin with

summer sentinel
#

agreed since nerfing stn would cause a cascade of other problems

hollow shell
#

Belladonna's damage could be nerfed by 1 point and hopefully it'll still be strong enough to make braving the jungle worth it

#

Honestly we could also just, leave it as-is
You knew STN is optimally used on low damage high fire rate weapons, and equipped it while you had one
Congratz! You have the expected amount of increased DPS as an application of your knowledge!

radiant meadow
#

I think it'd be best to just increase belladonna damage but make it shoot less stuff or less often

clever canopy
#

Or make it an intentional interaction, make belladonna almost useless without stn by making its damage something ridiculously low like 3 or 4

hollow shell
#

I would want to avoid that Logan
Cuz then a lot more people who aren't wearing STN will just say that the weapon is bad

clever canopy
#

That's fair, I guess I'm just a fan of items that make you think a little about how to use them

#

A possible solution would be to rework it entirely so you can only have one belladonna at once, but summoning more will increase damage by 1 or 2

buoyant idol
#

How about make it work kinda like the blade staff?

clever canopy
#

It pretty much already does just without inherent AP

buoyant idol
#

Make the dmg like 1 but ignore tons of armor

fossil finch
#

that would make the damage 1 anyways

buoyant idol
#

Oh yeah

#

Still seems like a good idea

fossil finch
#

It needs to have at least like 5 damage for the defense cutting to work on all modes

buoyant idol
#

What about make it deal 1 but increase the speed

clever canopy
#

Enemy defense is the same on all modes, only player calculation changes

buoyant idol
#

With 1 damage it won't matter

crude geode
#

Is mini-shark at all nerfed in calamity?

sleek turret
#

I think not.

#

1+ damage increase eventually matters a little on weapons like Belladonna, and for other example, P90.

clever canopy
#

Nah but calamity is balanced around revengeance anyway so most calamity weapons are on par or better than minishark

crystal iron
#

I mean, it's just one weapon, just don't use stn with belladonna if it's too op, cuz it does seem hard to balance, idk tho

clever canopy
#

I don't think it's terribly OP, just good

#

Like it's not gonna instantly kill bosses, you still gotta dodge and think

#

And for certain bosses it's pretty useless due to the AI/speed of the summons (such as final phase slime god)

grim tusk
#

Belladonna does need a slight nerf but not as massive as the suggestion says

#

Like -1 or -2 dmg

clever canopy
#

Just take off one damage tbh, that's already a 17% nerf

grim tusk
hollow shell
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(isn't it 20% or am I missing something?)

clever canopy
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You're right I was thinking about it being mythical/ruthless

hollow shell
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Ah

fossil finch
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get luiafk

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Also your title does not really explain what are you suggesting

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You should change that

crude geode
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Why is this a calamity problem. @jagged jackal

jagged jackal
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Not really a calamity problem, but considering steampunker sells astral solution i figured out a jungle solution might be useful

pine star
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Green Solution can convert Glowing Mushroom to Jungle

mighty knot
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I mean

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it doesn't need to be a calamity problem

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QoL things like that not covered by any other mods are allowed

crude geode
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It is covered by other mods tho. Plus, as LX said, Green Solution can convert Glowing Mushroom to Jungle.

mighty knot
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just don't title it 'Clentaminator Suggestion.' You should put what the suggestion is ('add a solution for the clentaminator that can convert dirt into mud', for example), and use the stuff below the title to explain the specifics

mighty knot
crude geode
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LuiAFK

pine star
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Wait LuiAFK covers this?

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I didn't know that

jagged jackal
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Didn't LuiAFK only made clentaminator solution unlimited?

pine star
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@shut wolf Don't be overly specific with suggestions

mighty knot
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(namely, including recipe)

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also, you need a title and a description, not just a description

shut wolf
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Oh ok cool

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Anyways that general idea

cobalt pewter
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@shut wolf check formatting and maybe don't use numbers

shut wolf
cobalt pewter
weak field
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I'm personally all for this suggestion

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Murasama is cool as fuck more weapons like that can be a really good addition

bronze lintel
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I downloaded Calamity after seeing the Murasama resprite in that trailer

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And it feels so good to use.

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It's the first time I really felt viable & engaging doing only true melee I think past early hardmode. I would have to reopen my world and look at all the weapons I collected to make sure that's true first, but the sentiment remains.

crude geode
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Ah yes, melee needs another subclass in addition to having Fucktons (approximate amount) of swords, as well as flails, spears, yo-yos, and short swords

pine star
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That said, this could work AFTER a fuckton of the broadswords are cut

crude geode
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Good luck with that, according to Brav theyā€™re going to be reworked

pine star
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Where's :desolage: when you need it?

earnest cape
pine star
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thanks

foggy plover
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finally, a sugg to make true melee not boring as shit

tribal verge
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Yes

violet dagger
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that sugg needs an ā—

hot zephyr
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Maybe Phantoplasm should get a variant of ectoblood... hmm thinkies

earnest cape
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@zenith hazel

summer sentinel
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no Ian but I will temp ! the sugg until the user edits it

earnest cape
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oh nvm

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sorry brav CompleteFailure

tawny garden
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Bot's ded

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Half-ded*

summer sentinel
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will notify la amber

tawny garden
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l'Amber*

rich hawk
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l'Amber

summer sentinel
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edited, was accident

earnest cape
marble hazel
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nice sugg about sentries

bitter drift
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thanks

marble hazel
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np, keep it up :]

bitter drift
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i am honestly surprised on the amount of stars it got so quickly

rose latch
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maybe after first time deus is defeated the animation doesn't play

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like how DoG used to have the sentinels phase which wouldn't happen after the first time DoG was defeated

eternal escarp
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DoG still has it iirc

rose latch
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I haven't played in ages so I'm saying in past tense just in case

earnest cape
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dog 100% still has the sentinel phase

rose latch
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ages as in back when deus still was just going up and down trying to run away from 8 flying worms

eternal escarp
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ah yeah, clown car deus

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byeah DoG still has the sentinel phase until first kill of said phase

rose latch
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wait if you kill sentinel phase does it come again?

earnest cape
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no

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you just have to reach dog p2 and sentinels won't spawn again

rose latch
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yeah that's probably why I got confused I remember they changed sentinels somehow

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before it was finish the whole fight and sentinels dont show up right

golden narwhal
summer sentinel
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fixed

obsidian topaz
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@bronze lintel you would think they would use the same attack animation for the katana or Omniblade