suggestions-discussion

[ashen warren]

ive been playing terraria since i was 9

[sand umbra]

T is a myth as of the last few years

E-10 was always a myth

M is the true form of T following the mythicalization of T

[cobalt pewter]

It's either E or M

[sand umbra]

furthermore a lot of games in modern-day circumstance have a target audience that in certain cases can vastly different from the target audience that the rating would imply

tl;dr ESRB ratings are an awful measurement of a game's target audience and should not be counted

what should be counted is the average ballpark of the game itself --- Terraria has a lot of teen-to-adult humor baked into it by default

Calamity both does and doesn't respect this. it knows the humor exists but it also goes overboard in trying to replicate it

if you need me to prove my point: Cirrus, Brimbo, and the vast sums of dialogue lines that hint towards Permafrost's...mm. how do I put this without getting warned for suspicion of horny...

...endowments, shall we say

[crude geode]

mfw you can’t discuss permafrost’s endowments but fabsol’s oc in game talks about it

[sand umbra]

byeah Calamity has this trend of including like 20 distinct dialogue lines vaguely related to horny things

(as one may expect, the vast majority of them come from Cirrus)

[cobalt pewter]

[sand umbra]

part of me wants to suggest that Cirrus' horny factor be toned down because for some reason nobody has her get nerfed in that regard when she's the strongest modded NPC ever in this field but at the same time the other part of me is, believe it or not, NOT foolish enough to seek my own death in that fashion

[cobalt pewter]

You'll anger all the prepubescent teens

[crude geode]

prepubescent teens are two things, horny and edgy. Calamity appeals to this crowd by being horny and edgy.

[sand umbra]

actually I don't care if I anger them, they can cry me a river about how their hot mommy Cirrus won't let them be as horny anymore
I care about the fact that I literally don't think I'd be able to get it to happen

Cirrus is counted as dedicated content

:)

[crude geode]

Indeed

[summer sentinel]

thank you Thomas for your insight

[crude geode]

I feel like if you pinged fab for it he’d just respond “no”

[sand umbra]

byeah
in essence, I am

[hot zephyr]

You've seen what "art" Fab has commissioned of Cirrus.

[proper grail]

[sand umbra]

I'm not really against a config to tone down horny factors in Calamity and base Terraria

[proper grail]

-Fab

[hot zephyr]

There's a greater chance of hell freezing over.

[summer sentinel]

At this point I think thomas is just trying to find the universal meaning to horny but I digress

[hot zephyr]

He's trying to find the horny gene to eradicate it.

[sand umbra]

it's more an issue of "glhf getting most of it done within the next 3 years, and glhf * 2 trying to get any horny in base Terraria toned down without people getting confused"

[sand umbra]

dude I gave up trying to find the universal meaning to horny at least a few weeks ago

there is no consistency and I have ended up accepting this as a fact of life

[crude geode]

Thomas doesn’t care about pictures of women, he cares about calamity’s evils not being separated and the fact he can’t do unnecessary intros to his suggestions anymore

[hot zephyr]

Scan Lilac's DNA for the cure.

[sand umbra]

and the fact he can’t do unnecessary intros to his suggestions anymore

you think I care about that

that hasn't been a thing for like six months what rock are you under

[hot zephyr]

He wants pictures of true melee rework Spiderman

[sand umbra]

also I would've had to change it eventually with the new sugg system anyway

[crude geode]

Indeed

[sand umbra]

I don't care

[crude geode]

I swear you were the reason that don’t got enacted in the first place

[sand umbra]

well...yes, but actually no?

originally it was just me and nobody really complained

...and then everyone else started ripping off my sugg style

[proper grail]

Suggestion discussion chat is the best fucking place to get some easy laughs

[sand umbra]

and Rover and friends were like "yeah okay fun's over we're not doin' this"

[crude geode]

that moment when not only do people steal your suggs, but also your style

[sand umbra]

so they just
they had to put a stop to that, y'know

nip that in the bud before it becomes a much larger problem

anywho. now, Calamity's evils not bein' separated, on the other hand
now THAT I care about

but that's a song and dance we've already been through, ain't it

[crude geode]

around four times yes

[proper grail]

My biggest problem? See: my nickname

[cobalt pewter]

At least the sugg is approved already

[earnest cape]

Oh god the rage sugg is BEEG

[crude geode]

Yep

[summer sentinel]

Indeed though a rage rework is already planned to occur

[earnest cape]

Yeah

Excited for that cause as of rn rage is pretty uselesssss

[golden narwhal]

rage rework hype

[earnest cape]

[tawny garden]

I wrote a giant sugg
(which also probably means that it has a high chance of not getting to 200)

Well, I needed to come back from a 4.5 month break somehow

[earnest cape]

Indeed.

Hueh

might wanna make it bite sized next time

[zealous ridge]

I mean, fuck

It’s already amassed a good amount

I don’t want to be that guy, but you know

[proper grail]

My brethren we have failed

We must try again in a month or two

Ectoblood must be killed

[eternal escarp]

sacrifice the blood

[tawny garden]

Why failed?

[proper grail]

It hasn't been flagged

[tawny garden]

M

[cobalt pewter]

I mean

my betsy's wings sugg have been only approved for months

[tawny garden]

Although I agree that Carthage Ectoblood must be destroyed

[cobalt pewter]

[tawny garden]

You can't repost your own sugg if it was already delivered

Lol all of my suggs are like that, Feedza

[proper grail]

Ectoblood delendo est

[cobalt pewter]

yeah this was my first

I literally still had not much clue about most things cal when this was created

hell

I didn't even know rogue

[tawny garden]

lol

[frail mantle]

Can you even disable stickers

Or would it just be a funny “you get punted into the sun by the mods for using them once”

[cobalt pewter]

The latter

[ashen warren]

you can't disable them yet

because Discord gaming

[unique kite]

wtf are stickers

[hollow shell]

pre-made gifs by Discord

Here's one
#general-talk message

Notice that you can't click on it like a normal gif

[unique kite]

what in the unholy forbidden pocket of fuck is that
who the fuck made that and thought it was acceptable to share with the world

[hollow shell]

Pretty much

[gray nebula]

just a gif but an emote so you can't disable them

(and paid!)

most annoying thing is how they added apng (animated png, better format than gif, but rarely supported) support for stickers exclusively

[hollow shell]

Oh it's not actually a gif?

Huh

[tawny garden]

Yeah

[smoky wigeon]

what in the unholy forbidden pocket of fuck is that
who the fuck made that and thought it was acceptable to share with the world
I think a better question is who the fuck went to work, got a paycheck, and decided “hmm yes, let me buy this new emote on discord”

[frozen storm]

Haha, first time?

[pine star]

[sleek turret]

hmm.

this sugg seems fine to me.

[zealous ridge]

It’s good I think

[sand umbra]

first time having to wait for potential implementation?

[zealous ridge]

[sand umbra]

fun fact: most suggestions don't happen literally overnight

I have had various suggestions end up in a state of "approval limbo" for months before being implemented

[cobalt pewter]

Months of waiting gaming

[sleek turret]

approval limbo.

gaemaing

[sand umbra]

you haven't failed until the big red DO NOT ENTER sign ends up on your sugg

[eternal escarp]

i think solstice just wanted to complain for the sake of it lmao

[zealous ridge]

I mean, yeah

[sand umbra]

Solstice was the one person out of seven+ attempts to get this sugg to dev at all

[zealous ridge]

I had the sulphur skin sugg get in like, a day or two after posting

It didn’t even get past voting iirc

It might have been before sugg voting......???

Fuck I can’t remember

Like before it existed

no matter, though

that’s an exception not the rule yknow

It’s likely plans were already made, it was just the excuse to finish it

[frail mantle]

i mean i suggested back in march 2019 and it wasn't added before 202

suggestions do occasionally take a while to be added

[zealous ridge]

I keep forgetting you’re god of dead memes

[cobalt pewter]

[zealous ridge]

That’s a bit of a different idea, though

[frail mantle]

[zealous ridge]

That needs a lot of coding

[cobalt pewter]

I think my skelly suggestion was relatively quick

[frail mantle]

fair point

[cobalt pewter]

Coin of Deceit rework was a bit longer

Then Titan Heart giving kb immune got flagged before even being approved

And that's before #changelogs

[weak field]

What if I suggest to add tooltips on mannequin/weapon rack/item frames to warn the player that they're bugged in tmod

Not everybody read the tooltips but at least it'd help a bit

[sand umbra]

1. don't those tooltips already exist

[weak field]

No

[sand umbra]

b) that's not really Calamity's area to be doing anything

[weak field]

I thought they existed but they're apparently added by another mod

Well ok I just saw a lot of people complaining about item frames bugging out

[cobalt pewter]

That's tmod's job methinks

[zealous ridge]

the mod that adds that is thorium

thorium gives a warning on all those items currently

And, I mean

it would be nice I guess?

To prevent people crashing their shit if they haven’t heard of it

but eh?

it seems like something tmod should do, but if they haven’t yet

....well

[sand umbra]

(btw Feedza you could honestly just wait for 1.4 tML as far as Crabulon summoning goes)

[zealous ridge]

sure, yeah

[sand umbra]

(Glowing Mushroom biomes became actual biomes in 1.4)

[zealous ridge]

It’s mentioned in the sugg

[sand umbra]

(instead of the like 30-block-wide blobs they are now)

[zealous ridge]

But either way, i still think current method is not great

like, here’s one for you

remember how crab could just spawn naturally passive in the biome?

Have something like that return

[cobalt pewter]

Waiting for something that will never come is not for me methinks

[zealous ridge]

not as like, literally the mob spawns

But a mini structure that has a little mushroom on it that you can interact with to spawn the boss

[sand umbra]

honestly I really want to suggest a more fascinating summon method for Crabulon but

1. specifics
   b) it basically relies on 1.4 shroom biomes being a thing

[sleek turret]

so uhh, how's my sugg?

[zealous ridge]

I mean yeah

[cobalt pewter]

1.4 tmod is getting real in 2077

[zealous ridge]

you’re a looks good nukem

just a minor change for sell prices

[swift wharf]

More like a oversight ye

[zealous ridge]

I don’t care too much about that kind of stuff but it doesn’t make anyone angry I’d guess

[sleek turret]

I mean yeah; "omw to find obscure oversights nobody knows about and suggest them"

[zealous ridge]

Yeah right

Good to catch in any case

If it’s an oversight should it be in bugs, though?

I know it’s not a bug

[sleek turret]

uhh, idk if I would consider it a bug.

[zealous ridge]

But usually oversights go there

[sleek turret]

but more like something the devs forgot about.

and for me bugs is when game goes funky mode.

[sand umbra]

1.4 tML will be real in an indeterminate amount of time

[cobalt pewter]

[pine star]

[unreal viper]

I want to boohoo but can’t emote chain.

[earnest cape]

The more you want tml 1.4 the longer it takes for it to come out

[hot zephyr]

I don't want 1.4 :checkmate:

[earnest cape]

Other people want it

And it stacks multiplicatively

[crude geode]

Stacking is removed in Draedon’s update so it’ll be fine

[proper grail]

Aren't flare variants the exact same?

[exotic stag]

pretty much i think so

besides color and maybe frostburn/fire

i only use blue flares anyway ;-;

[proper grail]

There's no debuff difference

[zenith hazel]

what would be the point when there's literally 2 viable flare weapons in the game?

[exotic stag]

i mean if you have a near post moonlord flare weapon

it should have some ammo type to go with it

other then pre boss ammo

[cobalt pewter]

Uh

Star Cannon upgrades?

[exotic stag]

star cannon is literal fallen stars...

[zenith hazel]

and flare gun is literal flares

[cobalt pewter]

Even Starmada and Norfleet literally still used a preboss ammo technically

[zenith hazel]

what's the difference?

[exotic stag]

yes well.. stars are stronger then flares

[zenith hazel]

and?

[proper grail]

Normal flare gun is surprising viable against early game blood moons, I've gotten 4 digit DPS with it. Not that it makes this a valid suggestion

[exotic stag]

[proper grail]

It's too niche

We don't need more flares

[zenith hazel]

even some endgame weapons use pre-boss ammo for their special effects

[eternal escarp]

tbh i like how theres 1 flare, makes the gun more unique tbh, exactly like the star cannon

also the guns are balanced around 1 damage flares is what im guessing, so more flares might require more balancing? dunno how it works but uh

[sleek turret]

uhh, flares are surprisingly good for 1 situation: cave exploring.

[exotic stag]

yes

[eternal escarp]

its almost as if thats their intention!

in vanilla, atleasat afaik

[gray nebula]

"flares are iconic in terraria-"

... are they really

[cobalt pewter]

Iban about to crush this man's dream

-well that happened while I'm writing

[gray nebula]

pwnt

[zenith hazel]

they're iconic for the first 30 minutes and then never again

[sturdy geyser]

when i think of terraria i think of its best weapon, the FLARE GUN

😩

[summer sentinel]

I don’t use them at all

[proper grail]

Cough Cough "worst," you mean

[sleek turret]

flare guns are cheap 2 gold coins early game for me at all.

[gray nebula]

flares and darts

[sleek turret]

sell them.

[unreal viper]

Darts are good tho

[gray nebula]

the awesomesauce forgettable quirky ranger stuff

that like 1% of the players actually use

[unreal viper]

Flares are used for earlygame exploration

[summer sentinel]

I use torches over flares always

[unreal viper]

No need for more

[tawny garden]

Flares are iconic in terraria for being a meme to fight with against king slime.
"iconic for being a meme" isn't exactly what I'd call a good reason

[unreal viper]

^

[pine star]

Dart Rifle and Dart Pistol aren't bad

[proper grail]

Only difference is that Darts are extremely viable as opposed to flares

[sleek turret]

you can get a merchant early-game and after then get torches or/and lightning rods for underwater exploring.

[cobalt pewter]

exo dart minigun when..,.,.,.,.

[exotic stag]

[unreal viper]

Darts are pretty cool and good.

[cobalt pewter]

[eternal escarp]

i mean the other two flare guns are viale, but i still think we dont need more then 1 flare type

[unreal viper]

People just don’t bother.

[tawny garden]

"exo flare gun"

[summer sentinel]

no. Good day

[exotic stag]

bloodflare gun

yes

[cobalt pewter]

Yes hello

[exotic stag]

i made pun

[cobalt pewter]

[summer sentinel]

The only exo wep I want is an exo spear but I’ll never get it

unless....

[exotic stag]

exo yoyo

[cobalt pewter]

The only exo I want is anything rogue

[unreal viper]

There is one

Gaming mouse

[cobalt pewter]

Because melee gets fucking everything

[sturdy geyser]

i dont want an exo spear because theres alerady like

[summer sentinel]

Exo/auric spear either or, I just want one

[sturdy geyser]

40 weapons at that tier

[proper grail]

Me omw to suggest that very thing

[sturdy geyser]

for melee

[cobalt pewter]

Give exo spiky balls

[summer sentinel]

yeah just add to the bloat, it’s inevitable

[cobalt pewter]

Golden Balls

[exotic stag]

exo throwing knives

[sturdy geyser]

call them

Yharim's Balls

[tawny garden]

[[The Oracle]]

[red storm]

https://calamitymod.gamepedia.com/The_Oracle

[sturdy geyser]

[unreal viper]

I don’t want an exo spear because it’ll be just projectiles and no spear

[exotic stag]

oracle is just yellow yoyo ;-;

yellow yoyo with laser

[unreal viper]

Oracle is the gaming mouse

[cobalt pewter]

Exo spiky ball would just be batshit insane

[sturdy geyser]

facts

[sleek turret]

"uhh, yes, hello; in petition of Lauren and suggland™, we want:

• auric shotgun, spear and spiky balls"

[tawny garden]

"What hung down over the player character in battle..."

[exotic stag]

@cobalt pewter theres already one

[unreal viper]

It actually has no projectiles iirc, oracle relies on hitting with the yo-yo

[cobalt pewter]

Actually I had this concept in the back of my mind for an auric tier spiky balls

[sturdy geyser]

Philo nO

[exotic stag]

theres already one thou

[tawny garden]

[cobalt pewter]

Might materialize it out of my monke brain later

[proper grail]

Oracle has Auric Orbs when fully charged

[cobalt pewter]

?

[weak field]

Exo flare gun that has all the flares connected with electricity for infinite iFrame fuckeries

[cobalt pewter]

What does that have to do with exo spiky balls doe

[unreal viper]

[proper grail]

Tl;dr, we need an endgame spear

[cobalt pewter]

No

We need more auric tier rogue weapons smh my head

[pine star]

I would want an endgame spear

[summer sentinel]

the only way to get an endgame spear is by being a dev and even that isn’t sure I bet

[cobalt pewter]

Melee gets all the shit

[pine star]

But more rogue weapons is better

[cobalt pewter]

Dev gets the better tier tho :sungla

[whole sedge]

uh on the topic of the suggestion instead of golden balls and funny gamer yoyo..
Why should a decently niche and one of a kind weapon of spectralstorm cannon be given unique ammo types when that ammo is only used by it in calamity and the base ammo of flares works just fine? From my knowledge none of the other uniqueish ammo weapons get any special treatment by calamity either so why shouldn't darts get that instead etc

[hot zephyr]

Time to become dev

[pine star]

ian becomes dev

[cobalt pewter]

Dev is big responsibility, kinda like Spider-Man

[proper grail]

Any prominent suggestor for Dev

[hot zephyr]

Thomas dev.

[proper grail]

Yes

[summer sentinel]

biased

[hot zephyr]

What do you mean, biased?

[summer sentinel]

Thomas is not real that’s why I’m sorry

[hot zephyr]

[summer sentinel]

He was an ai experiment gone rogue

[cobalt pewter]

@sand umbra gasp get real

[sleek turret]

https://youtu.be/Hnd8NC4YRmA proof that you are biased Ian.

[cobalt pewter]

[hot zephyr]

Me, to the devs not voting for my suggestions

[tawny garden]

No, that's Feedza
that's why he likes the rogue class so much

[pine star]

[cobalt pewter]

[proper grail]

Me when fab shoots down the no horni suggestion

[cobalt pewter]

what

[hot zephyr]

Good thing stickers are going to die

[tawny garden]

I fully expect it tbh

[proper grail]

Me too but it's worth a try

[tawny garden]

mhm

[proper grail]

Ectoblood and Cryonic are the two hills I'll die on

[tawny garden]

you can't die on two hills simultaneously

[sleek turret]

oversights will die by my hands.

[cobalt pewter]

More justice to rogue is what I'd prefer, but I think I haven't had any overarching topic to die on since a while back

[pine star]

half your body on Ectoblood, the other half on Verstaltite

[cobalt pewter]

In specific

[summer sentinel]

I do wonder why ectoblood exists since it's a material bloat on an actual existing item

[cobalt pewter]

Indeed

You can always buff Ectoplasm drops in some way

[summer sentinel]

It'd be like getting phantoblood where 5 phantoblood is one phantoplasm

[cobalt pewter]

Instead of adding a whole ass item

[pine star]

yeah

[summer sentinel]

do not suggest phantoblood either, I'll destroy you

[tawny garden]

it's the embodiment of material bloat

[tawny garden]

omw

[proper grail]

I'm going to make sure Ectoblood dies

[tawny garden]

[cobalt pewter]

Nah, trophy material bloat is like

Enchanted Metal

[sleek turret]

kill the exxo avalon reference for once and for all

[cobalt pewter]

[summer sentinel]

The what reference

[cobalt pewter]

Phantom Blood?

[sleek turret]

oh fuck not a tremor reference

it was exxo avalon

[pine star]

oh lord

[summer sentinel]

O, that makes more sense

[crystal iron]

jojo reference????

👀

[cobalt pewter]

oh shit

[tawny garden]

in soviet russia, jojo references you!

[crystal iron]

for thatr easonm alone phantom blood should be a thing in calamity

[proper grail]

Forget it, we have the Stardust Guardian

[cobalt pewter]

references for the sake of it is yech

[cobalt pewter]

Better example is Stellar Knife tho-

[tawny garden]

we already have too many references.

thank you, good night

[proper grail]

BTD has like 5

[tawny garden]

"Oh, you like the Calamity Mod? Name all MGR:R references in it:"

[cobalt pewter]

Borderlands 2 and MGR:R are probably the most prominent refs

methinks

Followed by 2hoe

[pine star]

The MOAB is pretty decent in defiled

[hot zephyr]

Time to suggest phantoblood

[pine star]

That said, the Boomerang Monkey weapons are not great

petition to make glaive stealth strike have 402 boomerang monkey effects

[pine star]

[cobalt pewter]

Kylie is god

Byeah, Glaive is kinda yech

[hot zephyr]

Let the Glaive bounce between targets

So I can bounce it between hungries at the WOF fight

[proper grail]

M.O.A.R Glaives

[proper grail]

Basically Crystal dart alpha version

[tawny garden]

do you wanna die right now, or two hours in the past?

[sand umbra]

I am here to ge
here to get real

[proper grail]

Yesterday, to be safe

[tawny garden]

aight lemme just get back into my DMC-produced vehicle

[cobalt pewter]

Thomas, you were accused as a rogue AI according to Lauren

[sand umbra]

any accusations of me being a rogue AI are false and should not be heeded

any accusations of me being a dev or wanting to be are also false and should not be heeded

[proper grail]

He hasn't denied moderator status

[sand umbra]

absolutely not

[tawny garden]

exactly what a rogue AI would say

[pine star]

if you were a dev, then the Infected Remote would have already been reworked

[proper grail]

^

[sand umbra]

well yes but actually no

I've been burnt out on programming for like

over a month

I blame the fact that I at one point tried to help contribute to 1.4 tML

[tawny garden]

[pine star]

[dapper violet]

There should be more flares and more gels to use as ammo

obviously i don’t think there should be, like, auric tesla slime but

it would be cool and fun if you could use blighted and purified gel as ammo

[pine star]

yeah

[unreal viper]

Has been sugged before.

It’s in sugg purgatory.

[pine star]

Purgatory?

[tawny garden]

got to dev, but its journey ended there

[proper grail]

Never voted on?

[tawny garden]

yeah

#suggestions-voting message

[pine star]

oh

That said, at least some devs approved of ectoblood cleaving

[tawny garden]

almost 300 people starred that

[pine star]

It's 299 people

[tawny garden]

[pine star]

it was 298

[tawny garden]

it was 297 before I posted the Link

[proper grail]

I am advertising for that.

Who's posting next time?

[tawny garden]

LXIXCDXX is

will be their first sugg

[pine star]

Ok

Is it posting the Ectoblood yeeting?

Because I'm down for that

[tawny garden]

well, for now we should wait a bit

[pine star]

ok

How about Jan 1, 2021

[tawny garden]

no, bad, I can't star suggs while I'm drunk

I've yet to ascend

[pine star]

[eternal escarp]

tbh making more gel types makes way more sense, since flamethrower is an actuall subclass in ranger

unlike the literal 3 flare guns, out of which only 2 are viable

[proper grail]

Then you have dart, with more ammo than weapons

[worthy lintel]

you want obscure weapons? try those using seeds

[proper grail]

All my homies hate seeds

[eternal escarp]

i mean, dart atleast is actually viable for the points u get it, and seeds make it useless so darts were made

im prty sure for flarestorm and spectralstorm, flares were already taken in mind

atleast that how it feels

also fuck seeds, i hate it when my inventory is filled with them

[proper grail]

As I said, all my homies hate seeds.

[eternal escarp]

im a homie 😳

[summer sentinel]

except jungle seeds, never hate jungle seeds

[river glen]

how about old duke plays a loud pant followed by multiple softer ones

to show he is exhausted

cuz i cant hear the sounds at all

[cobalt pewter]

87 - Old Duke now plays his tired sound on the player he's targeting so it's more clear when he's tired and not. - Done

[cobalt pewter]

Both bombs suck major dong

[summer sentinel]

hm I wonder if supernova could get vivid clarity explosions, that'd be pretty neat

[crystal iron]

i may be wrong but doesnt supernova already have similar effects to vivid clarity

i havenmt payed mage ina whiloe

som idk#

[summer sentinel]

@ashen warren yharim is planned to be added sometime into the future, deleted your sugg as it goes against the rules in suggs doc

[frail mantle]

vivid clarity uses the supernova explosion yes

[ashen warren]

Ooooh

[summer sentinel]

oh it does? I mean the initial impact explosion can have it, I haven't done rogue in forever

[cobalt pewter]

VC internally uses supernova boom for its explosion yes

[gray nebula]

a nimation

ozqdzq qçzdqzdkj (animatino) (hard)

not making supernova larger thats too hard

[crystal iron]

oh

[tawny garden]

English only, please

[crystal iron]

why exactly if i may ask

[gray nebula]

textual description of my brain frying

because it sucks exponentially more to animate stuff the bigger it is

[crystal iron]

oh, i thought it was just increasing the size of the animation

[gray nebula]

i mea,n it could get upscaled like the comically stupid looking murasama

but also murasama looks comically stupid

[frail mantle]

isn't murasama kinda doomed to look at least a little ridiculous given that it's a reference to the most ridiculous and over-the-top Metal Gear game

[gray nebula]

no

i mean the anim i made looks good

the anim i made thats been doubled in size and takes up the whole fucking screen looks stupid

[summer sentinel]

isn't that just XNA framework upscaling it to look more pixely or something else

[gray nebula]

no its just that its stupid because its big

[summer sentinel]

I see

[gray nebula]

just fix scal's ai to make true melee viable instead of making true melee take up the whole uckign screen

you sure as hell dont need projectiles if your sword reaches stuff thats offscreen due to its sheer size but also its gonna look dumb

[ashen warren]

Honestly i have to agree they should add an option where it removes the sexual stuff. Cuz brimstone elemental kinda makes the mod mature 17, after all she doesnt even have a bra on, so yeah.

[tawny garden]

Isn't True Melee taking up the whole screen kinda against the whole point of True Melee

[summer sentinel]

I'm not sure since true melee is making something work that vanilla never bothered to do or flesh out as is

[gray nebula]

its actually agaisnt the whole point of true melee

because of how much of a random challenge its been turned into people have entirely forgotten the reason it exists

true melee is special nto because "haha hurrr durr swords cant shoot projectiles???" but because melee is a class thats supposed to be

-melee range

a swod that shoots out projectiles that travel only a tenth of your screen would be more true melee than the giant murasama

[ashen warren]

Lauren, do you agree with solstice's idea that they need an option to remove sexual stuff

[cobalt pewter]

When you make projectiles more effective than the melee weapon itself (Influx Waver kekw), is it even "melee"?

[hot zephyr]

EXPAND THE SWORDS

[gray nebula]

if the projectile doesnt move far arguably yes

[cobalt pewter]

Too bad it moves far

[tawny garden]

Yes, because it has the melee damagetype

[cobalt pewter]

[tawny garden]

[gray nebula]

but yes the challenge behind true melee is not that "heuuruhrrugughrurhrur projectiles??? what,,,," its about staying close to the ennemy

[summer sentinel]

I'm indiff to the censorship of sexual-like material in calamity due to vanilla also enforcing this issue as is with questionable npc quotes and items

[gray nebula]

so if youre making true melee shit that has a screen of reach then its dumb

[summer sentinel]

yeah that's fair Iban, if a weapon ends up taking a giant chunk of the screen, it's more of an obstacle than true melee tier when you can just range sword it

[cobalt pewter]

Though having melee weapons that don't just vomit the entirety of solar system on swing AOTC ECH helps giving some actual definitions to the gameplay in general

[summer sentinel]

The thing is then you'd have to tweak almost all the bosses to make true melee be acceptable to allow it or have a sort of true melee only attack set/move to make it more viable

[hot zephyr]

give true melee the ability to parry contact damage

[summer sentinel]

idk true melee is in an odd spot, it's currently run in for big damage and die or alternatively just face tank, andd the parry mechanic would be an entire beast to work with

[cobalt pewter]

Make Brand parry global

[tawny garden]

If you tweak all bosses to allow true melee to be viable, other weapons become unviable

[cobalt pewter]

We have a base for parry, which is just Brand

[hot zephyr]

[zenith hazel]

umm

what

[summer sentinel]

@ashen warren realistically that isn't going to happen, as it isn't the nature of the mod to do that

[hot zephyr]

bioshock plasmids (in real)

[cobalt pewter]

sugg

[zenith hazel]

isn't that what lore items kinda do

[tawny garden]

You need a strong reason

[ashen warren]

There is so much stuff in calamity i can barely find an idea to suggest

[hot zephyr]

Then don't

[dapper coral]

don't suggest things for the sake of it

[zenith hazel]

then don't suggest anything

only suggest if you know you have a good idea

[summer sentinel]

I've deleted it due to that reason of just having the player inherit such abilities is not something this mod would ever do (brav say otherwise if you think)

[zenith hazel]

that is also realistically doable

[cobalt pewter]

mans out here tryna outnumber my suggs

[ashen warren]

Wait...

[gray nebula]

im true meleeing ooohg

[tawny garden]

Yeah lol

[unreal viper]

I feel like they were just trying to force true melee on a boss that’s anti true melee

[tawny garden]

Then rework her

[gray nebula]

make her true mele e viable lol!!

ez

but nahhh shes not getting changed because "the fight is good where its sitting right now"

[proper grail]

Return to Arkhalis heh

[ashen warren]

A really long sword or hammer would make it too overpowered

[gray nebula]

so sorry true melee but yer gonna have to do with the funny giant sword

[ashen warren]

Example: that hammer has real good dmg and agility

[hot zephyr]

If true melee doesn't reach the moon before the endgame I'm deleting the source code

[unreal viper]

[ashen warren]

If its real big then its too op

[hot zephyr]

"waaaaah nerf Murasama so true melee can go back to being a useless subclass"

[tawny garden]

You don't have it
(I do 👀)

[pine star]

why does everything have to do ludicrous contact damage

[hot zephyr]

meanwhile no actual reworks are proposed and it just flounders

[pine star]

personally, that's the biggest problem with true melee

[zenith hazel]

you do realize that facetanking with true melee is a legit strategy right

[unreal viper]

Contact damage could def be lowered or even removed depending on the bossy

[zenith hazel]

and that your defense is too fat that true melee might as well be viable

[summer sentinel]

Fab likes melee quite a bit so scal could be changed to be more welcome to true melee truthfully

[hot zephyr]

Make brand universal you cowards

[unreal viper]

Facetanking is dumb and a meme.

[tawny garden]

Fab likes melee quite a bit
This is one of the big problems with the mod.

[hot zephyr]

Facetanking is fun and all until 1.5 when your defense gets schlorped away

[unreal viper]

New strat: take one hit then portal gun away.

[tawny garden]

Cool strat

[hot zephyr]

Use portal gun on the moon

[tawny garden]

It will take 3 seconds to reach it

[pine star]

This is also incredibly hard to fix

[unreal viper]

Remove fabsol

[tawny garden]

Or how long did it take? I remember that some mad lad worked out how fast the Portal Gun projectile travels based on how long it took to reach the moon

[proper grail]

@ fabsol

[proper grail]

Near lightspeed I assume

Oh God we're very offtopic

[dapper coral]

indeed

[pine star]

yep

[cobalt pewter]

how many damned AotC convo this place is gonna have

[frail mantle]

fifty seven in 2021

[crystal iron]

i accidently pressed enter 😳

[pine star]

[hot zephyr]

Time to suggest more projectiles be added to AOTC

[unreal viper]

[hot zephyr]

"what do you mean the final sword in the enchanted sword line isn't true melee!"

[cobalt pewter]

[pine star]

[hot zephyr]

melee SHOOT?
ggRRRRRRR.

m.mm.mmust be... shitty short-ranged broadswords or

[pine star]

spears

[cobalt pewter]

I'm down with more i-frame ignoring true melee spears tbh

[hardy dock]

Me too

I love them

[hollow shell]

At the very least, give them a direct hit effect
Or move some of their current proj effects to direct hits

I get that it's the line of Enchanted Sword + Starfury combo things, but the player should at least be encouraged to try getting up close, instead of providing basically no incentive to do so
when you're using a fucking sword

Exoblade has direct hit effects, and it's the end of the Terra Blade / Terratomere proj sword line
Exoblade is aight

[cobalt pewter]

I think Rover was in a strong opinion of giving AotC true melee stuff

Byeah

Lag

[tawny garden]

gg

[cobalt pewter]

Also rover, people seem to be more in line with "adding" true melee effects instead of "moving" some stuff to true melee

Just to note

[hollow shell]

That's still okay because it provides some incentive

But AotC is already filled to the brim with effects so it could afford to move rather than add

[pine star]

Here's my idea for AotC
-Stars released by the blade do not home
-True melee strikes release homing stars

[novel belfry]

[cobalt pewter]

Yeah I'm fine with either approaches

[hot zephyr]

AoTC just need it's projectiles redesigned/reworked so I'm not blinded after a second of swinging

[crystal iron]

i think it would be better if it was moved tho, cuz it could create lag otherwise

also as rover said, it already ahs way too many effects anyway

so maybe moving some f them

of*

maybe the stars could work likle the pumpkins from the horseman balde

[pine star]

My proposal does move stuff

Namely, the homing on the stars

because the homing is the reason why people use AoTC on Scal

[crystal iron]

so the satrs would come from random directions and home in on direct hits#

[cobalt pewter]

Reject homing

Return to controlling the boss to keep her inside of The Wand

[pine star]

[tawny garden]

what's the matter with The Wand, I liked it

[cobalt pewter]

I'm not saying I hate it, that shit carried my ass through low% scal

[tawny garden]

I only encountered one problem with it: the gif of it that I made for the wiki was 27 MB long, but the limit is 10 MB, so I had to do some extreme compression on it

[cobalt pewter]

[pine star]

[sand umbra]

mfw calling true melee a class and not just
referring to it as a concept which embodies what melee as a term is meant to mean

how is the idea that
true melee does not need to be a class or subclass, but rather is a concept upon which Warrior as a class should build
such a foreign concept

[marble hazel]

me when ppl tryna turn true melee into a full fledged thing

[hasty moon]

ikr wanting your class to actually make sense is crazy

[sand umbra]

it
should be. "true melee" is the idea that a melee weapon requires getting close to the enemy, and more importantly doesn't use extraneous projectiles. this is the entire concept melee weapons as a staple of RPGs go with, for consistency reasons and because that is what the term is supposed to mean

Terraria's just a right bastard in that regard and doesn't follow it to any degree because haha funny projectiles we have to have more projectile spam

and then! and then you try to make it actually worthwhile in Terraria and you realize that's a fool's errand because bosses in Terraria are designed witth projectile spam in mind

[marble hazel]

Nothing wrong with true melee, but when people try to balance shit around true melee it just doesnt work, who gives a fuck about what makes sense or not, turning melee weapons in true melee is just not the solution imo

[sand umbra]

making a weapon true melee directly isn't the solution

not because it would make the weapon worse by default, but because it still leaves the bigger Beholster in the room that nobody wants to address

there is not a single boss in Terraria that is designed with melee as a proper concept in mind

[hot zephyr]

This is why parrying should be universal

Checkmate

[sand umbra]

Calamity extends this issue like threefold with its vast majority of new bosses, many of which inherit an anti-melee bias from the bosses they're based on, and its projectile-oriented additions to existing bosses in Rev+

[civic notch]

I agree with everything you are saying Thomas except for the idea of projectile "spam" as opposed to bosses being projectile based

There are only a couple bosses which I would consider spammy

mainly destroyer and moon lord

Also cultist but thats stretching it

Everything else utilitzes projectiles as a fair source of attack which is reasonable to dodge

[sand umbra]

you have it backwards

[golden narwhal]

I'm p sure he wasn't referring to the boss being spammy

yea

[civic notch]

^

[sand umbra]

I'm referring to the player shitting out 500 projectiles per tick

with the vast majority of weapons

is that an exaggeration? yes, but it's one to prove a point

[civic notch]

We know its an exaggeration

also

Yeah I see what you are saying

[sand umbra]

basically, "true melee" in Terraria is not possible without significant changes to like every boss
even more so in Calamity because it'd need to change both vanilla bosses AND its own bosses

[hasty moon]

the "making sense" thing was just a joke, that really doesn't matter to me. what does matter is if it leads to fun gameplay or not, and holding m1 to summon a bunch of homing projectiles tends to be less fun than trying to get up close and be rewarded with good damage

[civic notch]

although making bosses the subject of the sentence confused me

Anyway

Ian's parry idea works really well to slightly give true melee a boost

but it wouldnt be enough

bosses are designed with the idea of keeping distance

Hell during Scal you cant even bridge the distance most of the time

[tawny garden]

well, my sugg proves that chonkers suggs still have a chance to reach the req

[hot zephyr]

We did it boys, True Melee is saved.

[tawny garden]

nice

[golden narwhal]

[tawny garden]

(well, on the road to being saved I guess)

[hot zephyr]

Nope

Doesn't need any more changes

It's complete

[pine star]

[crystal iron]

Tbh, I think melee should be reworked overall, and not just calamity but vanilla too cuz it obviously has been poorly executed, it's better than any class (usually) cuz the weapons are a mage and ranged hybrid except you don't need mana or ammo and u can attack with the actual weapon, I think melee should have always been true melee maybe some weapons could have some projectiles but it should be mainly a get close class

Cuz that's the whole idea of melee, why do we need another projectile spam, we already have ranged and melee (and rogue in calamity) and technicaly summoner

[pine star]

Soon stealth will become viable

[civic notch]

Calamity and Vanilla both actively discourage getting close with boss design

[civic notch]

Projectiles are legit what is viable

Its beyond hardcoded into terraria, the game design actively rewards keeping distances with boss attacks

[crystal iron]

Ye ik that's why it should be reworked, for example making bosses less aggressive when holding a true melee weapon, idk how that would be coded but that's one idea, I'm pretty sure if someone is creative enough they could figure something out

Maybe giving true melee a parry mechanic as it has been suggested before

[long widget]

rip don’t think my totality breakers buff will make the req

[hollow shell]

It still has a chance.

[unreal viper]

Just make 32 alts bro.

[pine star]

[dapper coral]

(don't actually do that because moderator angy)

[terse sundial]

(okay however we don't need a suggestion to pass in order to make a balance change, I added it to a list to be looked at)

[unique kite]

sharpened buff probably isn't getting the 200 either

[river glen]

how about the more rage u gain during a boss fight

the more DR u have

up to like 5-10% for ex

[hot zephyr]

Meh, that's just free DR

Doesn't actually solve any of Rage's issues

[river glen]

well

u have to gain rage

duringg the fight

to earn DR

[cobalt pewter]

Wouldn't giving Rage DR throughout the bar make getting Rage harder than it already is?

[hot zephyr]

You're right, actually

[proper grail]

It's official.

[civic pond]

great!

[cobalt pewter]

[golden narwhal]

[cobalt pewter]

Another jolly day

[hot zephyr]

[summer sentinel]

crafting bloat material is gone

[hot zephyr]

Now kill Ectoblood

[proper grail]

Patrons can't use Ectoblood for recipes, it's getting killed soon

[hot zephyr]

New suggestion: Phantoblood

[proper grail]

No

Demoted

Banned

You will not be allowed to sabotage our victory

[hot zephyr]

🎶 the phantom... is coming! 🎶

she's crossing... over the 200 star line

[ashen warren]

I think butterfly dust from the moth should be craft able

[summer sentinel]

Ectoblood dies and get something else instead

[ashen warren]

I’ve been in the jungle for over 3 hours waiting for it to spawn

So I can make the sponge

[summer sentinel]

You will explode in 3

[golden narwhal]

It's sold after a boss, isn't it?

[summer sentinel]

Yeah after golem by witch doctor

[ashen warren]

Wait no way

[golden narwhal]

There rip the 3 hours tho

[ashen warren]

You bullshitting me

[sand umbra]

death

also why would a vanilla material that drops at a stupidly high rate already be craftable

[ashen warren]

Because depression

[golden narwhal]

Because ectoblood

[sand umbra]

Ectoblood is the exception, not the example, get outta here

[proper grail]

Because old stupidly high Ectoplasm crafting recipes. Now that late game material bloat is getting trimmed, there's not even a reason for higher ectoplasm spawns

[ashen warren]

Dude I can’t believe

[summer sentinel]

Well you see Thomas: vanilla

[ashen warren]

In the amount of times I’ve bought from witch doctor

That I never saw the powder there

I’m legit sad now

[proper grail]

Hey everyone.

[cobalt pewter]

Phantom Blood material when

[cobalt pewter]

I need me joejoe reference

[summer sentinel]

well you got your wish solstice

[golden narwhal]

[earnest cape]

[summer sentinel]

That’s your Christmas gift

[earnest cape]

no more pain of farming it for ascendant spirit essence

[ashen warren]

I’m sadder now, that the Gypsy powder got changed of the recipe

[proper grail]

Can you change the last part of my name to "Ectoblood is kill" please?

[ashen warren]

You gave me hope

And then took it away

Cruelty

[earnest cape]

frik gypsy powder

[summer sentinel]

It has been done

[hot zephyr]

@summer sentinel I made phantoblood.

[earnest cape]

phantoblood

[summer sentinel]

Ian do not

[cobalt pewter]

Phantom Blood 🔫

[proper grail]

Thanks

[hot zephyr]

There's my application for official spriter.

[earnest cape]

:smilers:

[ashen warren]

[hot zephyr]

Where do I go to submit my work

[earnest cape]

[summer sentinel]

No where, your reign of power ends here

[proper grail]

The 9th circle of hell, for traitors

[summer sentinel]

Goodbye

[ashen warren]

[hot zephyr]

You can't stop mer

I've become too powerful

[earnest cape]

Lauren killing Ian 2020 colorized

(gone wrong)

[hot zephyr]

She's tried before

And yet, I remain

[ashen warren]

[summer sentinel]

My killing machine ran out of charge

[proper grail]

Execution of a suggestor 2020 colorized

[hot zephyr]

(critique on phantoblood, though, practicing spriting)

[earnest cape]

it looks gud

[summer sentinel]

it’s a good start I’d say, play around with spriting more and ask in art server, that’d be good I think

[hot zephyr]

It's also a shitty recolor of Ectoblood flipped on the horizontal axis with a palette I ripped directly from phantoplasm

(well, not actually, some of the colors are my own)

lol

[earnest cape]

ectoblood but mirrored

[violet dagger]

ectoblood but not targeted by thomasthepencil for removal

wait I just realized smth

toblood

[whole sedge]

you have successfully made it even worse

[cobalt pewter]

Oh yeah Ben should the ench metal sugg be flagged then since ozz basically confirmed its deletion

[radiant meadow]

Are y'all suggesting something or meming about a shitty recolor because I hope it's not the latter

[hot zephyr]

A suggestion.

[violet dagger]

I honestly dont know

[radiant meadow]

It can be flagged when it's removed which hasn't happened yet.

[proper grail]

Actually Ench and Ectoblood should both be either flagged or "wrenched" (in progress)

[cobalt pewter]

Ahh

[proper grail]

🛠️

This means on the Todo list

[hot zephyr]

It's a counterpoint to "Remove Ectoblood", instead of removing a material instead we could embrace consistency.

[golden narwhal]

Does the emote sugg need an embedded, even if it's just the HotE sprite

[hot zephyr]

I think people can infer

[void kelp]

yo can someone get the emote link anyways

gonna drop it in for posterity

@hot zephyr pls

[hot zephyr]

ah

[void kelp]

I’m on mobile 😔

[hot zephyr]

gimme 5

there you go

[void kelp]

excellent

[hot zephyr]

👉 😎 👉

now go feed miso a roach

[void kelp]

he’s sleepin

[hot zephyr]

oh ok

[mighty knot]

mmm

feedza

that's not what integrity means

[hollow shell]

Nah it kinda is

Current recipes do make the world choice at the start less meaningful/valuable

[mighty knot]

I guess, but integral /= integrity
integrity just means honesty and moral superiority

[hot zephyr]

World evil choice ends at what boss you prefer fighting

[tawny garden]

In fairness, you can always just

Generate a new world

With the opposite evil

[real steppe]

Yes please, I agree to that Provi blindness adjustment

It gets the job done but imo it does more harm than good

[tranquil perch]

Yes, the transition from no blindness to blindness is too sudden imo

[tranquil perch]

Fargo's both evils

[frozen storm]

Nah

It crashes with calamity

I think

Whaddaya think of my suggestion?

[tranquil perch]

Yes

Would be very useful for folly

[frozen storm]

Dash i-frame is cheat for ok size, and fast bois

Like QBee and Folly

[hollow shell]

Are you sure it doesn't

[frozen storm]

Yep

[hollow shell]

Can we get a video or gif of it

[frozen storm]

I literally checked

Ok

[hollow shell]

Cuz that seems like a pretty big oversight

[frozen storm]

Why it worked on QBee but not for Folly

[hollow shell]

I blame cooldownSlot

[frozen storm]

Ye

Cryo lore gives enough frame but not Solar

[tranquil perch]

An understable one in vanilla tho. If you instantly kill en enemy with solar dash, you don't get hit, but if you don't, you get hit

It doesn't matter in Vanilla because solar armor makes you unkillable:HyperFailure:

[hollow shell]

I don't think that's the reason

[frozen storm]

Bumping gives 4 i-frame?

[hollow shell]

I don't think it's the amount of i-frames either

Hol up

So, sans, you get hit when you dash into Dragonfolly
But you avoid damage when you dash into Queen Bee?

[tranquil perch]

What does cooldownSlot do

[frozen storm]

I think solar gives less i-frame

[hollow shell]

It's a different immunity frame timer
Every source in vanilla uses the same default one (-1), except for spike tiles which have it set to 0, and Moon Lord which has it set to 1
As in, if you got hit by something with a -1 slot, you can still get hit by things with slot 0 or 1 during those i-frames

I suspect that the Solar Flare dash only gives you immunity frames for the -1 slot, which is why you can evade QBee
but doesn't allow you to evade Dragonfolly, because Folly uses the 1 slot like Moon Lord

[tranquil perch]

Ah, i see

So ig make solar armor give iframe to every slot?

Or make folly have slot -1

[hollow shell]

I assume this was done to prevent i-frame cheesing
i.e., you can't stand on spikes and get hit over and over for low damage to be "invincible"
And ML's special i-frames makes it so you can't even cheese him with Slime Statues

All of Calamity's post-ML bosses use the anti-cheese cooldownSlot that ML has, 1.

[frozen storm]

[tranquil perch]

Well then

[eternal escarp]

that makes sense tbh

[cobalt pewter]

You can ram thru Yharon with aegis tho?

[hollow shell]

We would need to make the Solar Flare dash grant i-frames for cooldownSlot 1, too, yes
That is what we gotta do

[cobalt pewter]

[eternal escarp]

oh yeah wait

[hollow shell]

Next update iirc

#changelogs message

[eternal escarp]

so it fixed the yharon ram, im guessing?

[hollow shell]

From my research, all the sources that set your immune timer (which is currently dashes and mounts) will also fail to provide i-frames to cooldownSlot 1

So once these are made to add instead of set, they should give all i-frames properly

[eternal escarp]

ah

[hollow shell]

Hopefully.

[eternal escarp]

yeah hopefully

today i learnt how immune timers in terraria work, ig

[hollow shell]

(I wrote like most of this entire page so I know this shit really well:
https://calamitymod.gamepedia.com/Immunity_frames )

[eternal escarp]

ah, you have done your research in the past lmao

[tranquil perch]

It was pinned to redo that page in wiki basic so i didn't wanna mention it

[hollow shell]

mm

[tranquil perch]

Was it that or lifesteal

[hollow shell]

One or the other

I wrote that page too

[eternal escarp]

[tranquil perch]

[hollow shell]

A fucking mess, they both are

Because they're 'vanilla' features that we gotta describe

[tranquil perch]

So uh

Back to solar dash

Yes

Is it possible to disable Asgard valor while you have solar blaze buff

Because dash fuckery is

[hollow shell]

Is Solar's dash superior to Asgard's?

[eternal escarp]

i think thats what he means, yeah

[tranquil perch]

Yes, and when u use both dashes at once, the game has a stroke

You end up with a tiny asf dash

[hollow shell]

Aight

If you can do some testing and get some details bout that
You can make a sugg about it

First I've heard of the issue
(then again it's just for one armor set that you don't keep for very long)

[eternal escarp]

i can test it rn, im already with the game open

yeah i see whats the problem

lemme make a video of this

ill just make sure this is only with calamity

[hollow shell]

Aighty

[eternal escarp]

there we go, hope its not too big

[cobalt pewter]

Unloaded items :fear:

[eternal escarp]

lmao

the combo didnt work first time cuz i forgot u dont get the buff imediatly

[hollow shell]

(and just to be sure, the Solar dash length isn't dependant on how many dash charges you have, right?)

[cobalt pewter]

No

[eternal escarp]

no dont think so

[cobalt pewter]

As long as you have any tiers of Solar Blaze

[hollow shell]

aight

[cobalt pewter]

You'll have consistent solar dash

[eternal escarp]

yeah, it is the same

[hollow shell]

Pretty good tests in that video then, thanks

[eternal escarp]

np

[hollow shell]

Whoever makes the sugg can include that video

... unless

This should go in #bugs-read-pins

[eternal escarp]

should i go post this video there?

[hollow shell]

Yeah better should

[eternal escarp]

alright, will do

im uh

forgot that its in the pinned bugs

this was a useless discussion, lmao

[frozen storm]

https://youtu.be/FIENqVuR5mE

[tranquil perch]

Too late

[frozen storm]

I know

[eternal escarp]

now i look like an idiot over at #bugs-read-pins pog

[hollow shell]

Oh it's a known bug then

Cool

[eternal escarp]

yeah

[frozen storm]

My freaking poor internter is great

Uploading 12mb video for like in 2 minues

[hollow shell]

That is a good video for demonstrating the cooldownSlot fuckery, sans

[eternal escarp]

terraria is a fun game huh

[frozen storm]

Pasta coded

[crude geode]

A) is this even possible
B) that sounds like a good way to take up a buff slot for no good reason

[glass sentinel]

yes it is

but very annoying to do

[tawny garden]

hmm, is it possible to add seconds to already applied buffs?

[glass sentinel]

imgine switiching an accessory on and off during a fight

[glass oasis]

Developers I have such a proposal - to make the bosses the function of destroying the house for NPCs + voice acting for the bosses so that they think like people and speak too? What do you say to that?

[summer sentinel]

The only way to make this possible is to force cool down accessory swapping on that

[hollow shell]

The reduced potion cooldown for "free" does sound pretty major
However that does require a good deal of micromanagement on the player's part
If they're willing to switch out an accessory and back every time they press the quickheal button, then let em

[summer sentinel]

Yeah like me who does it

[glass sentinel]

thats a sugg no-no

[tawny garden]

those who use The Camper:

[glass sentinel]

right?

the camper is now irrelevant

also the only one who used it properly was crabdad

[hollow shell]

Also, Angels
Any enemy that destroys or even modifies tiles is generally greatly disliked by the public

[glass sentinel]

destroyer

how much do you like your world?

[hollow shell]

And voice acting would be.. probably not well-received either, but it's possible

[frail mantle]

didn't Jetshift have voice acting

[hollow shell]

iirc yes, never played it

[crude geode]

Getting musicians to work on calamity is hard enough

[tawny garden]

Voice acting is cringe

[frail mantle]

and didn't basically everyone make fun of Jetshift for having voice acting

[crude geode]

like Philo is doing?

[frail mantle]

granted, people make fun of Jetshift for existing in general, but still

[glass sentinel]

philo you are personally doing them all

imagine doing DoG va