I went off Altix's paraphrasing
https://gyazo.com/e5f6b26150ecbb58456d05a2b5d8995d
#suggestions-discussion
radiant meadow
tawny garden
lol
sharp prism
pine star
unreal viper
Good sugg,
crude geode
Is there an armor set in vanilla that gives more than one summon per armor piece?
@sleek girder
tawny garden
[[tgc:Stardust armor]]
red stormBOT
sleek girder
Increases your max number of minions by 2
tawny garden
but that one does have the info on the tooltip
sleek girder
hm
unreal viper
forbidden greaves
crude geode
forbidden greaves
What?
sharp prism
yes it is
tawny garden
also hmmmm
I've just ran through the list
and each vanilla armor does list the minions
crude geode
@sleek girder
tawny garden
which armor doesn't?
crude geode
I stg if this is a journey’s end thing
sleek girder
it is
i just checked in-game
it simply says "increases your max number of minions"
crude geode
For stardust armor?
radiant meadow
If it gets fixed up in JE, I see no reason for Cal to edit vanilla tooltips now tbh.
sleek girder
yeah
tawny garden
crude geode
Also stat meter exists
sleek girder
who knows when JE is coming out on tmod
crude geode
On February 29, 2021
tawny garden
damnit why tf did you edit, my response makes no sense now
crude geode
@heady storm Can you exclaim sugg? Ben’s already brought up a counterpoint, plus stat meter exists already.
tawny garden
also if you exclaim
tawny garden
crude geode
sad!
tawny garden
anyway,
radiant meadow
but I don't think the counterpart renders it invalid anyways
tawny garden
if you exclaim based on that, you might as well delete
radiant meadow
I think it's pointless but that doesn't mean the suggestion doesn't have a right to stand.
crude geode
This is true
heady storm
Did I exclaim the right one?
sleek girder
it's fine
crude geode
ye, I jumped the gun as usual tbh, but I do think that stat meter kinda alleviates this problem already.
tawny garden
you don't even have to buy the Stat Meters to use them
and you don't use them at all
<@&225032353137819651> Cursed's sugg bad exclamate
crude geode
heady storm
No.
crude geode
Astral Ore is so fucking disappointing, and such a tease. You think you'll be able to make some type of amazing, unique gear with this glowing ore that spawns at the start of hardmode, yet it's just another typical Modded Ore Gear Set like Perennial or Chaos, but at least those have the excuse of actually having upgrades.
frozen storm
Astrum Deus is Post-Lunatic and Pre-ML
tawny garden
agreed
frozen storm
Think about that
frozen storm
Yes
sharp prism
maybe
frozen storm
And some weapons that idk
Like after killing Lunatic Cultist, beating with overpowered Calamity weapons is faster
frail mantle
deus used to be right after Aureus yes
frozen storm
Deus is post-Lunatic,isnt it?
frail mantle
now it is
frozen storm
Boss Checklist says so
frail mantle
but it used to be fought right after Aureus, in between Plant and Golem
frozen storm
Swarms
frail mantle
clown car deus, yes
torpid cedar
it would be cool if the guide also tell you some stuff that added in calamity so people can play it without some kind off tutorial
hollow shell
Amidias fulfills that purpose to an extent
(Of course you gotta get Amidias in the first place)
sand umbra
Guide should still have some purpose
especially since, as you mentioned, there's a notable portion of the game where
get this
you don't have Amidias
zenith hazel
a notable 2%
hot zephyr
Like the Guide isn't a really poor introduction to the game 
stray quiver
am I the only one that feels like more boss fights with multiple bosses in the same fight? like maybe with pbg make it so a buffed queen bee that just spawns every time like 33% of the bosses health is done? and it just charges? idk I just really like the idea
sounds cool imo
fights like that are exhilarating
hot zephyr
The mod has moved away from multiple adds in fights
Sprime lost it's probes, PBG lost it's Plaguebringer, Brimmy's brimlings got nerfed, etc
stray quiver
mmmkay
the mobility of pbg makes it so fun tho, whoever helped make the pbg fight, props to you 👍
did a really great job
zealous ridge
i still think theres too many adds where they dont need to be
AS, hive mind, cryogen
so many bosses had probes before
dog and weaver both had them before they were axed
pine star
SW used to have probes
zealous ridge
almost every boss has an add in this mod
literally can look at the wiki and see that every boss has parentheses next to it listing off the adds
golden narwhal
Does AS still have minions?
Haven't noticed them for a while might just be them dying too quickly, which backs up the point 
zealous ridge
they add nothing except when they kill you from the edge of reality
golden narwhal
HM is somewhat justified by it being a, well, hive mind
zealous ridge
yes, but there are silly cases even there
hot zephyr
Almost all of the adds in the mod have horrid AI, and just serve to be cannon fodder/adrenaline stealers
zealous ridge
i wont argue that the hive blobs or even the dank creepers/hearts cant stay
but the boss spawns devourers and eaters for no fucking reason
i could potentially make a case for hearts, even
hot zephyr
The worst adds in the mod though are the profaned guardian phase of Providence because they feel wedged in
hot zephyr
I know
golden narwhal
The enemies work well in the first phase tbh, where HM does nothing
hot zephyr
I've been here for years
hot zephyr
But the new attacks that Providence has makes them infinitely worse
zealous ridge
its insane
cobalt pewter
I swear if ian's moonwalk sugg got in imma import and eat some taquitos
zealous ridge
ok
hot zephyr
Hm?
cobalt pewter
All 3 of mine got stuck in voting hell
cobalt pewter
Been doing that since a while yes
A sec
I mean
I know it's possible
I can code it in, it's just
Getting the interest of masses for this specific sugg is
pain
cobalt pewter
Also there's no such thing as "true melee weapons" according to the code now
It's just the direct hit that will count as true melee
So even if you used Stream Gouge, if you hit the actual spear, it'd still count as true melee
zealous ridge
thats good
hot zephyr
I can fix that
cobalt pewter
What I'm saying is that having it being a toggle gives good freedom in how they'd wanna do their melee weapons, because I know some people might not want moonwalk
cobalt pewter
It's hard to categorize what's a "true melee weapon" for example, but either way
hot zephyr
Then just give every melee weapon moonwalk
cobalt pewter
I can see the merits in having moonwalk being toggled. On is usually when you need to continuously pursue a target when retreating, off when you're fighting a horde from both sides
hot zephyr
Just move your mouse accordingly
1.4 gave all shortswords moonwalk, and it was a good change. Nobody complained.
zenith hazel
^, you should read the suggestion don'ts doc in the pins before you post a suggestion
sand siren
ok
sleek girder
if one of mine got 200, im sure his can
proper grail
He's done like 7 posts for the same thing and none of them have gotten through yet
He was sceptical about mine passing
ashen warren
here you can see Feedzuh in his natural habitat, suggestion channels
anyways came here to ask if asking for a rework a no
sharp prism
figures
eternal escarp
and you only missed it by about 24 hours lmao
asking for a rework should be fine if you test or stuff afaik
frail mantle
if the rework is specific enough that it might as well be its own item it's not allowed
ashen warren
is suggestion the scourge of the cosmos to shoot worm ai like projectiles instead of the already ones too specific?
radiant meadow
probably not going to fly given how worm AIs are
tawny garden
Nah, it's not specific
pine star
ashen warren
what if, just more worm themed instead of ai
ashen warren
yeah thats what i thought, there is the destroyer gun
radiant meadow
the destroyer gun isn't Calamity
ashen warren
oh yeah fargo's
radiant meadow
and mechworm has caused innumerable issues in the past
tawny garden
m
ashen warren
ever decompiled fargo's souls?
radiant meadow
and it's still meant to be a scourge of the corruptor upgrade
ashen warren
or worked with him?
radiant meadow
you know fargo's souls is open source on git, right?
ashen warren
oh wow never knew that
ashen warren
nice! how hard was it?
ashen warren
sure... just wanted a general feeling
sharp prism
philos problem was not keeping his mouth shut
tawny garden
"looked down" == wanted to throw me into a volcano
ashen warren
OH thats fair enough
pine star
~~I decompiled Calamity, but that's beside the point~~
how?
sharp prism
why would he tell you
frail mantle
He’s already on a hit list for doing it himself, he’s not gonna tell anyone else how to do it
ashen warren
you learn how to code first, math second, sell your soul last
pine star
he wont answer anything
i didn't expect him to
ashen warren
ThomasTheHackerman
ripe owl
Another one my sugg was posted
And ofc it will not reach 200 stars because just because
cobalt pewter
@heady storm another doc on a relatively specific topic this time 
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1CVQClG5HlwGXstbmuI1F-NkkccWyJxsBz38EIJAfbXQ/edit?usp=sharing
sharp prism
true melee is epic with rage
cobalt pewter
neither of the proposed changes will fix Rage
das the best I can do without completely redoing everything atm, maybe I can think of something better when I'm having a dalgona in my bedroom or smth
tawny garden
I'll even go as far as to say that even a complete rework won't fix rage
nothing will
cobalt pewter
ay mate, I'm doing what best me can do with the provided stuf and things
tawny garden
cobalt pewter
not gonna resort to "haha remove rage lol"
sharp prism
i think it should be renamed to hage thatd be funny i think
gray nebula
haha remove rage lol
cobalt pewter
echmega
sharp prism
i dont actually think that lol
cobalt pewter
haha remove rage lol
pensive momentum
tawny garden
do it in your mod
sharp prism
no
gray nebula
i mean adrenaline feels cool and epic and rage is weird
cobalt pewter
takes a single hit as summoner
'bitch eat dmg now'
sturdy geyser
i can get behind removing rage
cobalt pewter
sleek hornet
hey you have taken enough hits, here is your extra damage
tawny garden
thing is
I either die
or get rage outside of a bossfight
so it's uhhh
useless
tawny garden
I have, once
sturdy geyser
maybe one event
tawny garden
against WoF
tawny garden
Spoiler: it did zilch
sturdy geyser
gaining adrenaline is both safer and more effective
it gives me a better damage boost and i dont fucking die
cobalt pewter
again, I'm usually not gonna object with rage removal, and I'd honestly say that out loud if I'm in a bad mood
but I love helping to shape stuff in cal to be a teensy bit better rn
so I'm just doing stuff in the scope of what exists atm
sand umbra
he's still on a high from new stealth formula getting in, let him have this
cobalt pewter
smh my head
hot zephyr
Rage should slowly generate if you're in close proximity to a boss; to encourage close quarters combat.
It'd make combat more interesting, instead of just "Run away, charge adrenaline"
tawny garden
Deltarune TP
cobalt pewter
Philo that's graze
And Fab was against the idea
Because of potential performance issues
tawny garden
it's hard to code as well iirc
frozen storm
Just creating one boss that acts like dummy
And copies one of the bullet hell
But it is hard
cold cosmos
<@!247207355429683200> another doc on a relatively specific topic this time <:we...
I’ve never found a problem with rage, I think you just don’t know how to correctly use it
tawny garden
tell us
cold cosmos
I farm for the heart of darkness
tawny garden
enlighten the world with your sacred knowledge
cold cosmos
Get full rage before a fight
Get absolute rage
Deequip heart
Have extra hp and a free damage boost
Or just use heart of darkness
tawny garden
it still doesn't really work
cold cosmos
I think it’s fine
hot zephyr
It's not.
whole sedge
I mean going out of my way to farm for a specific accessory just to get a minor damage boost of 50-110% doesn't seem that worth it to me at all 
tawny garden
and I don't really want to waste my time on getting the meter to be full
hot zephyr
It only really works if you equip one of two niches accessories
cold cosmos
It’s mostly for the absolute rage
hot zephyr
For a pitiful buff
pine star
Absolute Rage gives like 20 max health
tawny garden
and also the Absolute Rage (buff) isn't Rage itself
whole sedge
For basically risking an entire fight or taking up an accessory slot rage's damage bonus does not really seem worth it at all
cold cosmos
Also I’m bad enough at the game that it fills up naturally
eternal escarp
rage is supposed to be used like adrenaline, not as something only a certain accesory that allows it to be usefull
ike adrenaline i mean, in fights
tawny garden
I couldn't use it in fights at all
like
either the boss is already ded, I am already ded, or there is no bossfight to begin with
dull wren
I play very casually and I don’t think I’ve ever intentionally tried to use Rage because of the pain in the butt it is to get and the payout not really being worth it
hot zephyr
The only time I've used rage is in event fights.
tawny garden
also I once tried to use Rage against WoF by pre-preparing the full bar cause I was failing for some reason, and I failed to do any significant damage
hot zephyr
Mechanics rewarding taking damage are kinda not good
tawny garden
that's why I said that it's doomed
ashen warren
i never find myself using rage and I dont think anyone does
tawny garden
thing is
ashen warren
honestly why not remove rage
tawny garden
Rework Rage is too broad to be a sugg
hot zephyr
It's supposed to be a part of true melee
tawny garden
is it?
tawny garden
yes but
pine star
Gael's Greatsword has a tie in
tawny garden
that's not its original purpose
hot zephyr
make all true melee swords build rage kekw
tawny garden
at least I don't think so
hot zephyr
Well it's original purpose is bad so let's morph it into something else
tawny garden
that's barely morphing it
hot zephyr
Not now, I work for another six hours
pine star
Do it
tawny garden
or contribute to Feedza's
hot zephyr
"Prepare for trouble!"
"And make it double!"
tawny garden
hot zephyr
Writing paragraphs at the speed of light
sleek turret
what about me doing .txt format document
hot zephyr
Star the suggestion now, or prepare to fight.
hot zephyr
Too bad!
tawny garden
and he had reasoning
tawny garden
I think it did
lemme doublecheck
has a 137747 byte Wikipedia Article https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special_relativity
so it passed
hot zephyr
Feedzuh einstein?
sleek turret
Feedzuh einstein.
tawny garden
tinfoil hat
sleek turret
Now lets go talk about suggestions now or else we ded.
crystal iron
About the latest Sugg
Can't u just use god mode until u get to the phase
whole sedge
The point of the sugg is just something that probably loops that specific phase for easy practice
crystal iron
Oh if that would make sense but I don't see it happening anyway
Sounds like a lot of work
zealous ridge
i would be okay with it being in like, nohit helpers
but thats beyond the scope of just calamity suggestions
crystal iron
Also wouldn't it be a bit more efficient if u learned everything in order, like, if u can't do the bit before the bullet hell then practice that and then the bullet hell
Idk it might just be me
zealous ridge
well, the thing would be there is what if youve already got the first phases down, and you just need to do something in the fight later
you still have to take the time and energy to do the earlier phases
without a selection for doing phases out of order or even on loop
it saves time, mostly
crystal iron
Ig ye
zealous ridge
regardless, i agree its difficult to really get behind in cal
just because it has nohit challenges, doesnt nessecarily mean the main mod has to add tools that enable practicing challenges
nohit helpers already fits for this
and if i recall, it has the option to select BHs in scal fight to loop or activate
crystal iron
Ye, it's just not necessary at the moment
slate bramble
Would it be a good idea to suggest that they Implement a version of Brimstone Slag that doesn't spawn mobs/create the biome so that it could be used in builds?
crude geode
Just use peace and tranquility
tawny garden
that would still spawn enemies
it's not like the old tranq candle
under which an enemy spawned once over 6 hours of real time
slate bramble
I was hoping I could us it and other blocks but I keep spawning those biome mobs
Maybe it'd be a good Idea to suggest that they implement a builder's version of them?
tawny garden
why not
cobalt pewter
Are you trying this on surface?
cobalt pewter
Yeah honestly I can see the crags only able to be made into a biome in underworld layer
Doesn't completely fix the problem, but idk why this isn't a thing yet
crude geode
Yeah honestly I can see the crags only able to be made into a biome in underworl...
That solution doesn’t really sound good. at all.
slate bramble
All I'm suggesting is that you could craft Brimstone Slag and other blocks like it into builder versions so it doesn't spawn unwanted mobs
tawny garden
That solution doesn’t really sound good. at all.
why?
crude geode
Prevents you from making an artificial brimstone crags in a not cringe area (aka the underworld)
tawny garden
ah
crude geode
Literally the whole point.
slate bramble
I mean if a player wanted to make a surface biome why stop them?
crude geode
byech builder versions seems valid.
crude geode
I mean if a player wanted to make a surface biome why stop them?
^^^
proper grail
Does this count as future content?
hot zephyr
What?
cobalt pewter
Which part exactly?
cobalt pewter
Providence's cocoon spears and Deus???
proper grail
Is that referring to the changelog? Or am I tripping?
cobalt pewter
The latter.
proper grail
Fuck
cobalt pewter
Same case with Deus
proper grail
I'm suffering from a double shift on Sunday
cobalt pewter
Both of her cocoon attacks were reworked in rnd
hollow sierra
speaking of consistent explosion patterns
catastrophe has 1 pattern he always uses and cataclysm has a random? one
glass sentinel
the BH sugg, in my opinion just ruins the fight
just find a place where you can basically stay still
crude geode
the BH sugg, in my opinion just ruins the fight
the brimstone blast sugg?
distant vault
yeah probably
ashen warren
consistent pattern would make it too easy imo
golden narwhal
Requiring adaptive skill is gud and more interesting tbh iirc imo
(They also aren't entirely RNG, since a large gap is almost always near the tip of the blast iirc)
crude geode
Brimstone blasts having consistent patterns just makes them less nonsensical
you either get fucked over by rng, or you barely notice and move into a giant gap
golden narwhal
They can be a pain, ig, specially in the bhs
Was mostly put off by this line, which is something I partially disagree with
These changes make it so that the boss requires much less adaptive skill and instead allows you to dodge the same attacks with the same method when approached in the same way.
golden narwhal
New bosses are a don't to sugg
hollow sierra
you could possibly do a consistent pattern that rotates with you in relation to where the brother shooting it is
and just make sure one of the bolts go directly for the player to discourage standing still
cobalt pewter
Also a no
golden narwhal
There's a doc in the pins here that states the rules for suggs
cobalt pewter
👋
frozen storm
Duh
How devs will change Hellblast making them more like pattern based
They'll make them like Perforators projectile?
which sucks cuz there is little gaps between them
civic cradle
Will the new terraria update with for example journey mode ever be available in tmodloader so we are able to play through calamity with it?
Or "new"
Like 8 months old
patent nimbus
i answered in #general-talk
proper grail
Could be better worded and punctuated but I agree with the idea
river glen
my english is really bad
river glen
yeah
proper grail
Perfectly understandable.
tawny garden
oh god
DoG be like
But if I should die before you continue,
You shall have heard my final dying roar.
pine star
buoyant idol
Is my suggestion bad or need any edits?
buoyant idol
I just felt like besides the rifts and hit sounds, it was rather silent.
crude geode
I mean, usually the music fills up the gaps
buoyant idol
Does anybody think the ability to disable dev sets dropping, vanilla and calamity might be nice while boss grinding
crude geode
I mean, that feels kinda unnecessary to me. Would only really get excessively annoying when farming for 1% drops, which isn’t really intended (even tho a portion of the community does it.)
buoyant idol
I often grind cryogen for money in late game and it just slows the entire thing down by a couple minutes
crude geode
What kind of late game are you referring to?
buoyant idol
Post providence
Sentiels fall instantly
I kill storm weaver before providence most of the time
crude geode
Farm like Deus, golem, PBG or something at that point
buoyant idol
In armageddon
dapper violet
ravager question mark
crude geode
Armageddon is getting yeeted anyways
buoyant idol
Oh no
zenith hazel
doesn’t DoG already have a custom roar?
frail mantle
DoG has a custom spawn sound effect and hit sound but nothing aside from that I think
buoyant idol
The hit sound is already in vanilla
The spawn is used a couple of times but no roar
frail mantle
If it is it isn’t used much
crude geode
Hit sound is used by ceaseless void at least
buoyant idol
True
zenith hazel
pretty sure rover made the hit sounds himself, no?
buoyant idol
Idk
tawny garden
@hollow shell [Citation Needed]
zenith hazel
and the roar
buoyant idol
Theres no roar I think
hollow shell
There is a spawn roar.
zenith hazel
use cosmic worm in game and see
buoyant idol
Thats a rift, not a roar, right?
zenith hazel
or listen, in this scenario
hollow shell
It's both
hollow shell
You could
There is no death sound so I guess you could keep that
buoyant idol
True
hollow shell
He does have a short roar whenever he teleports in P2 (or summons CosGuards)
Pictured: https://youtu.be/Li83t4v1FyA?t=171 (quality isn't great but it's there)
hollow shell
Fuck
sleek turret
modo experto
tawny garden
Español*
hollow shell
Should probably change your reason to suit those specific instances
Because he does have a roar, just not for those two situations
buoyant idol
I often forget to reasearch my ideas
crude geode
Best to bring up ideas here first
Byech
If we’re talking about sound effects, NPCHit1 really go brrrrr
tawny garden
buoyant idol
Is the otherworldly hit vanilla?
hollow shell
Nope
buoyant idol
Oh, could have sworn it was
hollow shell
Naw
I made it for DoG and CV
buoyant idol
Also your work for the mod is great, the acid rain is amazing in my opinion
frail mantle
nah every sound on the npc hit sounds page that doesn't start with NPCHit or DD2_ is custom
hollow shell
Thanks man
buoyant idol
The beginning is the best part
Better than iirc the normal theme
Is it just me or does the abyss chest that has terminus have normal lame loot like glowsticks? I could have sworn that I only found crap and terminus when exploring the bottom.
hollow shell
Yeah the bottom chest has normal loot in it too
buoyant idol
I think that should be changed
The astral biome chest has cool stuff like zerg, zen and aureus cells
tawny garden
a chest with the holy grail and with some cigrette stubs
hollow shell
(thanks for pointing that out actually cuz the wiki page for it looks outdated)
buoyant idol
Your welcome
hollow shell
But yeah you could make a sugg for the Abyss shrine chest to be the same way
buoyant idol
Alright, I'm gonna do that
crude geode
no
tawny garden
crude geode
So uh what’s the logic behind removing half of summoner’s late game power via removing stacking summoner accessories
tawny garden
smh that's future content go to #calamity-update-talk
crude geode
Ah yeah right I forgot that existed
buoyant idol
Alright, posted
tawny garden
2 is still allowed
mighty knot
@buoyant idol I feel like that defies nonlinearity
by locking the chest until post-polter, terminus becomes a post-polter item when it was intended to be obtainable at any time
hollow shell
hmmyyyeah kinda
tawny garden
hm yeah
mighty knot
I'd prefer to keep it that way if it just loses post-polter loot in the terminus chest
tawny garden
maybe don't put op stuff there
crude geode
Put 1 reaper tooth inside
tawny garden
but removing cigarette butts from the chest would still be beneficial I think
hollow shell
Although, all of the Reaper Tooth crafts require an Ancient Manipulator, and all of those except one require Ruinous Souls...
tawny garden
hollow shell
except for this recipe
mighty knot
ig, but early reaper tooth necklace isn't too bad
you need post-cal stuff for it anyway
crude geode
post cal reaper tooth tho?
sand umbra
(Reaper Teeth are post-Polter anyway so it doesn't really matter)
hollow shell
(Thomas do you know what this convo is about)
mighty knot
I mean, it's an accessory. almost no accessory is obsolete or overpowered at one point in the game like weapons are
sand umbra
(no I don't actually I just got here)
tawny garden
(scroll™️)
hollow shell
(Putting Reaper Teeth in the Terminus chest)
hollow shell
We could just put exactly 5 Reaper Teeth in the chest
sand umbra
probably don't do that
crude geode
I mean, it's an accessory. almost no accessory is obsolete or overpowered at one...
Ever heard of a little something called Hallowed Rune?
hollow shell
Help you get a bit of a supply up even if you can't use it yet
crude geode
We could just put exactly 5 Reaper Teeth in the chest
Yes.
mighty knot
Ever heard of a little something called Hallowed Rune?
keyword almost
tawny garden
We could just put exactly 5 Reaper Teeth in the chest
just to troll people? 
I like it
sand umbra
just to troll people? <:LUL:354581602908504064>
Help you get a bit of a supply up even if you can't use it yet
buoyant idol
Sorry went afk
hollow shell
It does save you some effort later
mighty knot
and it gives a nice taste of later game weapons via guide/recipe browser
hollow shell
So uh yeah Gearsaw it would be better to put a decent but unusable amount of later-game resources in the chest
tawny garden
there's gotta be something else in there
hollow shell
than to lock the check till postPolter
buoyant idol
Alright, I will edit that into it
tawny garden
if you're planning to get the garbage out of the chest
hollow shell
Could be some epic potions
Potions are super temporary so even if you get later game ones early they won't overpower you too much
tawny garden
Draconic Elixir 
buoyant idol
There we go
crude geode
Put gaze of crysthamyr in it
mighty knot
nooo
hollow shell
Looks good 👍
tawny garden
cool
crude geode
Gaze of crysthamyr is quite possibly one of the worst items in this mod tbh. Completely outclassed, both in usability and ease of acquiring it.
tawny garden
yeah
hollow shell
Looks real cool tho
mighty knot
defiled rune noises
tawny garden
I wouldn't call it the worst tho
hollow shell
Yeah that's a big throne lol
crude geode
“possibly one of the worst”
tawny garden
lemme actually look for the worst
buoyant idol
In my suggestions I said weapons because soul edge in the chest would be cool, but it would break the game's progression
Which is why I said post polter
hollow shell
A single unit of Purified Jam in the chest
crude geode
Purified Jam
that’s actually usable without being a laughing stock
buoyant idol
That would be good but not make sense
hollow shell
(also, Gaze does have a greater flight time than the Alicorn)
buoyant idol
I saw Merg use Gaze I think
tawny garden
tho that would make Purified Jam less of a bitch to farm
hollow shell
(and Alicorn is Rev+ exclusive)
tawny garden
which might actually help the item to suck less
sand umbra
(the problem with Gaze is that you will never go horizontally far in the two fights you can use it in)
crude geode
Rover you just implied people play on non-rev
sand umbra
(so its horizontal speed is a moot point)
hollow shell
People do, in fact
sand umbra
(and its better flight time doesn't really mean a whole lot when much stronger methods of vertical movement exist)
buoyant idol
Would anybody say that a buff would be suggestion worthy? (I never cared because I use burden to get around)
crude geode
rarely enough for it to not matter almost at all.
crude geode
(and its better flight time doesn't really mean a whole lot when much stronger m...
^^^
sand umbra
~~rarely enough for it to not matter almost at all.~~
howzabout you don't diss the folks that would rather play the OG modes instead of Calamity's awkwardly-designed new modes
thanks
=)
now I don't do that because Rev is the intended experience and if I'm gonna learn about Calamity balance I gotta go with the intended experience
but other folks do and that's fine, let 'em play how they wanna play
hollow shell
I am personally starting to get tired of slow-ass gameplay because my ass keeps getting handed to me
in higher difficulty modes
buoyant idol
I did rev my first playthrough
sturdy geyser
I tend to play rev but sometimes I disable it
buoyant idol
I use pure rev
tawny garden
I am personally starting to get tired of slow-ass gameplay because my ass keeps ...
the first time I played, that was the major problem
buoyant idol
And armageddion to farm
crude geode
We’re talking about alicorn v gaze here, and gaze is only better if you’re counting on people not playing on expert or if you’re wanting to (for some reason) use the better flight time.
tawny garden
although I think it might just be a problem with Terraria
crude geode
It’s infinitely harder to get than alicorn and has less movement speed.
hollow shell
I'm starting to get tired of Terraria in general. I played Spirit+Calamity PreHM but didn't bother to pick up the playthrough again once I killed WoF
buoyant idol
brb
sand umbra
although I think it might just be a problem with Terraria
no it's a problem with Rev+ bosses change every 2 months goddamnit
tawny garden
that's fair
hollow shell
I beat Pantheon of Hallownest, I can handle things being hard. Terraria is just not as fun to play as HK is.
tbh fuck Terraria
sand umbra
Terraria is a bad game for many reasons and yet we still mod it
tawny garden
I said "fuck Terraria" 11 months ago
crude geode
ah I see we've devolved into dissing terraria, classic sugg discussion
tawny garden
when I dropped the game on ML
tawny garden
~~ah I see we've devolved into dissing terraria, classic sugg discussion~~
yeah
buoyant idol
Back
hot zephyr
Let the dead-horse kicking commence!
sturdy geyser
🤪
crude geode
honestly makes sense that Rover, the embodiment of #suggestions-discussion, would hate terraria
tawny garden
somebody @ Crysthamyr
buoyant idol
Man, that seems really convincing to do in my opinion
crude geode
@radiant meadow Need an @ at Crysthamyr for my sugg.
tawny garden
somebody who knows their Discord Username
he might not be in here, in which case rip
buoyant idol
I sense a godly presence known as a mod coming
radiant meadow
@nocturne root
hollow shell
(I keep wanting to say/spell their name as Chrysanthemyr)
radiant meadow
well they changed their name so you're still wrong
hollow shell
True
nocturne root
What did I miss
buoyant idol
We must find the man
radiant meadow
Just a suggestion about your dedicated item
nocturne root
I am Crysthamyr
tawny garden
do you approve of the latest sugg
nocturne root
This has my approval
tawny garden
(and buffing as well tbh)
hollow shell
coolio
nocturne root
I approve of the buff wholeheartedly
tawny garden
nocturne root
My baby dragon needs all the love he can get
crude geode
oh my god I had the idea of swapping the DD2 "Dragon Egg" for just Yharon Summon "Dragon Egg"
buoyant idol
Yes
tawny garden
nocturne root
I’m not sure how you tracked down my username honestly but I’m proud
I forgot I even changed it
hollow shell
Heh
buoyant idol
Wait
hollow shell
We keep a list
buoyant idol
We managed to find him
buoyant idol
Someone summon a mod
tawny garden
@radiant meadow
radiant meadow
done
crude geode
We leave
buoyant idol
Do we just continue our lives in the void of quarintine?
crude geode
Until someone posts something/has idea
crude geode
Do we just continue our lives in the void of quarintine?
Yes
buoyant idol
Quick! Think of an idea
buoyant idol
Cryogen 2nd subphase can be cheesed with a roof like perforators
Does anybody think this should be changed?
hollow shell
It's not as much of a problem as with Perfs cuz it's just a small portion of the fight
but maybe
buoyant idol
It happens again in phase 4
Any phase without follow can be cheesed like this
excluding ramming phases
Eh
I don't think its worth so I'm going to hibernate for now
hollow shell
Okie
hot zephyr
Remind me, wasn't there a time where Perforator projectiles pierced through tiles?
zealous ridge
i believe they can..?
but its semi-limited
i almost certainly remember them passing through tiles in my most recent playthrough (before RnD, but still)
dapper coral
they pass through blocks to a certain range afaik, yeah
zealous ridge
thats what i thought
dapper coral
but it's not completely noclip
zealous ridge
after a duration or when they start falling or something, they become tangible
as in, they can break on block contact
sort of like starfury logic
(in vanilla, at least)
either way, cheesing with block roofs is easy
buoyant idol
I think they should be piercing when above the player and not when below the player
zealous ridge
honestly the solution i would go with is not making perfs an ass fight
these issues pertain to a fundamental flaw with the boss as a whole, it is essentially a floating tumor that makes it rain shit
however, a solution like that would certainly make nullifying the attack more difficult and thus, more engaging
i don’t see it making the fight any more or less fun
just making it less easy
buoyant idol
Idea, it dashes downward to counteract it
And as a visual indicator, it would suck up its uvula
zealous ridge
well, it does dash
agreeably this has made the boss less passive but even more annoying
buoyant idol
But it wouldn't dash when the worms are alive
zealous ridge
because the boss shoots projectiles upwards and the best way to dodge the dash is to jump over him
zealous ridge
perfs make crimson less enjoyable overall for me
buoyant idol
Why?
cold cosmos
Corruption is better in every way
zealous ridge
they’re far inferior to hive mind
buoyant idol
I did corruption for the past 20 or so
cold cosmos
Oh
buoyant idol
Not all calamity
zealous ridge
by no means do I think crimson isn’t fun
yeah
do what you want yknow
But overall I think calamity buffs corruption too much
lol
buoyant idol
I main melee so often I want vampire knife
zealous ridge
that’s the main advantage with crimson, yes
but calamity completely nullifies this via the crimson chest
buoyant idol
But I want ranger this playthrough
zealous ridge
mm
dapper coral
if no one is suggesting, then no one is suggesting
just be patient until someone has a suggestion, don't force suggestions for the sake of suggestions
buoyant idol
Ok, I often get impatient as my current clicker playthrough is boring waiting for plantera bulb
hardy dock
It’s entirely possible that an upgrade for the Shattered Sun is coming in the Draedon Update
radiant meadow
(there's not)
tawny garden
hardy dock
That’s a darn shame
worthy lintel
sad
crystal iron
So, do I just like, delete my Sugg, cuz, like, it's never gonna get added or like
Smth
craggy stratus
the sugg is fine
river glen
perfs fight summarized over what i have seen
a giant tumor that rains shit on u
and summons its children
heady storm
@frigid haven eyeah this is a don't.
eternal escarp
you can just, save and quit so WoF despawns
also, doesnt WoF despawn in 1.4? if so i dont think it needs to be changed
eternal escarp
you can just, save and quit so WoF despawns
but try this next time u have this issue, its a workaround
worn jungle
I also play a lot of multiplayer and they really dont like it when I close the server and restart it
We like to play a lot of deathmode
tawny garden
also thing is
I really liked to abuse the Boss Zen in that way
spawn WoF at the edge of the world → Teleport to Spawn Point → Die → 10 minutes of nobody spawning
made life so much less frustrating
worn jungle
Well the only thing I dont like is that in deathmode you can't heal from the nurse for like 10 minutes
That was my suggestion I was thinking about earlier
Not the boss zen thing
eternal escarp
it is a 1.4 thing, sorry philo
tawny garden
yeah, I know
ashen warren
why would you want to have boss zen for 10 minutes
eternal escarp
why would you want to have boss zen for 10 minutes
easy calm potion but better
worn jungle
I was thinking about how it is annoying that when you want to heal after you die you cant
tawny garden
so that stupid enemies don't fly into my face like bees
cobalt pewter
1.4.1 to be exact
tawny garden
and don't annoy me
ashen warren
1.4 will have towns which will prevent enemies from spawning anyway
tawny garden
yeah
eternal escarp
true
ashen warren
oh and I dont't get why respawning doesn't give you full health unless you use that one thing dropped from wof in the mod
eternal escarp
and so multiplayer cheese wont happen, although they forgot nurse exists
atleast, i see it as one of the reasons
tawny garden
tbh I don't like Terraria much as well
cobalt pewter
Anyone who's been deep into Red's shit is
tawny garden
which is partially why I stopped playing
tawny garden
tbh if nobody makes a 4K beeg res screen mod for tML 1.4
I'll make one
just because
ashen warren
we shouldnt have to download a separate mod to use a weapon because its too dusty
crude geode
Aestheticus is kinda only a single weapon that lags the mod out of a shit ton that can
tawny garden
my game doesn't lag at all so I can't relate
novel trellis
hey guys, i had an idea with no merits or reason
hell its probably been put here before
but i think wulfrum stuffs need something
i dunno what
maybe a boss or something idk
random thing i thought of
tawny garden
(you can't suggest bosses)
frozen hornet
I had a sugg while doing the boss rush but I forgot
oh I remember
I wanted to suggest showing charge levels on draedon's arsenal weapons
eternal escarp
they show tho, they show percentages
frozen hornet
it would make it easier to see charge without having to open the inventory and hovering your mouse over the weapon
eternal escarp
i mean when its charged fully once its prolly enough until its replaced
frozen hornet
replaced in what way?
eternal escarp
new weapons
charging 1 weapon once is enough until the next weapon sets
so seeing their charge wont really change much imo
frozen hornet
hmm
hot zephyr
charge bar would be nice.
frozen hornet
I prefer using them with over 80% charge for as much damage as possible
I have 3 pulse rifles to use during BR,one to leave for charging and 2 to use
charge bar would let me see if it's below 70%,which is when I would switch
crystal iron
It takes no effort to press esc and hover over a weapon tho
Ik not against the idea
It's just
proper grail
Can't do that while fighting tho
hot zephyr
Checking a charge mid fight is clunky as fuck
There's literally no reason not to have a charge bar, redcode permitting of course.
frozen hornet
Thank you
proper grail
Done.
frozen hornet
Great
eternal escarp
ill still vote for this when it passes tbh, even if i dont see a real use for it since its a nice qol, if redcode allows this to occur
zealous ridge
There is technically no practical use, I guess
Considering charge usually doesn’t impact too too much, granted you don’t use the weapon for longer than a tier will last
I see some situations that warrant having an easier to see indicator, though
Namely, endgame with how you’ll be using those weapons for a longer period over more attempts (bossrush, mostly)
It would be nice to have and wouldn’t hurt anything
In theory, at least
proper grail
Redcode always hurts
zealous ridge
This is a given
hot zephyr
@waxen bolt Read the suggestions doc, specific item suggestions aren't allowed.
terse sundial
🤔
hot zephyr
tawny garden
I'm not even sure what this is
terse sundial
You need to type it all out in one message
eternal escarp
thats not how you make a suggestion, doesnt it need to be the same message?
hot zephyr
Yes.
tawny garden
@waxen bolt whatever you're suggesting, type it out in one message
hot zephyr
Or the bot will split it in two.
terse sundial
Use shift+enter to create a new line
cobalt pewter
br
eternal escarp
the whole suggestion is just "idea for dog staff"
cobalt pewter
post dog staff when the entire post dog is and will have a phat amount of summons
eternal escarp
yeah sorry
cobalt pewter
Jdjdjfkffkfi
zealous ridge
hmm
He’s been on a few servers now posting these kinds of things
I’m guessing he’s new
like, new to terraria discords in general
eternal escarp
its fine, it happens
zealous ridge
yeah, keep tabs on the doc for what you can and can’t suggest
waxen bolt
Ok
zealous ridge
basically, things are stricter here because a lot of suggestions come in and basically all of them are not accepted
Thus, specific items aren’t really worth taking up space, yknow
now, This doesn’t mean anything pertaining to weapons are diss allowed
for example, you could just ask for something a bit more broad
wooden wedge
(you should delete your sugg)
zealous ridge
ya delete it if it isn’t already
waxen bolt
Just did
zealous ridge
Alright we’re all good then
dapper violet
I think a chat message would work too. “Your [weapon] has 50% charge remaining!
hardy dock
How would you feel if Scal was neither organic nor inorganic
tawny garden
my feelings about the world don't change a lot because of changes to some weird characters from a game
hardy dock
I just think that certain Draedon's weapons are a little too effective tbh
zealous ridge
pulse rifle sounds really fucking crazy
hardy dock
It honestly is
zealous ridge
Anything mechanical is just death
hardy dock
Scal is technically inorganic too
zealous ridge
any percentage of health as damage in a weapon is really just insane
hardy dock
So shes utterly decimated
zealous ridge
Tesla cannon on the other hand is pretty bad
It’s basically slower pulse rifle for organic targets
if I recall correctly
hardy dock
Ye you cant just switch her damage noise to an organic one or the tesla cannon becomes a problem
dapper violet
i thought the organic/inorganic bonuses didn’t affect bosses
hardy dock
It does iirc
zealous ridge
It affects bosse
dapper violet
then i was told incorrectly
Cool!
zealous ridge
if it didn’t, it would be a garbage stat
tawny garden
otherwise the one-use weapons would be completely useless
zealous ridge
literally yeah
the way it is now it’s just busted
It should not be a percentage damage add
it essentially means you can kill scal in 250 shots minimum
less because it has its own damage stat on top of that
so even if you were doing 1 fucking damage it would still only take 250 shots
granted your target is inorganic
sure, it’s basically endgame
but there are still challenges, and there is still more content past this to be added
hardy dock
Aight sugg is posted
pine star
give scal the player hurt sound
tawny garden
hardy dock
zealous ridge
really this is a case by case solution
Which works I guess
but honestly doesn’t get to the heart of the problem
Organic-inorganic is a pretty ridiculous stat
zealous ridge
and it’s on top of dealing percentage health as damage, which is just... stupid
hardy dock
I remember the insane exploits Hectique used when he speedran Calamity
This honestly reminds me of them
crystal iron
That's invalid
tawny garden
@hoary condor your suggestion should be in one message
ashen warren
tawny garden
and you should have a reason
ashen warren
you need more than that for a sugg
dapper violet
do you see the way every single other suggestion is formatted
bold title, with justification underneath
tawny garden
(I thought you were writing one)
hoary condor
Nah i want it hard
crystal iron
Huh
hoary condor
U know weps overheat and u can't use em
tawny garden
it's not gonna go through based on "I just want it lol"
ashen warren
yeah philo assumed you were writing a reason in a separate message but uh nah
hoary condor
Tommorow imma make something better
ashen warren
at least explain why you want it in your sugg
hoary condor
It's 11pm
ashen warren
then don't post the sugg
hoary condor
Ok
hoary condor
Difficulty
crystal iron
Ye isn't there a rule to not leave after you've just posted a Sugg anyway
hoary condor
Nah i won't