suggestions-discussion

[hot zephyr]

What even would the suggestion limit look like?

One a day? Three a week?

[cobalt pewter]

Ask rover

[proper grail]

1-2 per day was mentioned

[hot zephyr]

It should be one per day tbh

You put some time into a nice suggestion; and then you're sent to irrelevancy land as a handful of master's thesis-length suggestions send your poor suggestion flying

It's why I've started putting images in my suggestions; just to grab more attention

[pine star]

More like dissertation-length suggestions

[hot zephyr]

cough cough Thomas making a three paragraph suggestion on changing the name of a bar cough cough

[pine star]

cough cough almost every one of Thomas' suggs cough cough

I hope Thomas doesn't pull a "whomst has awakened the ancient one"rn

[cobalt pewter]

@Thomas

[proper grail]

[hot zephyr]

[pine star]

[tawny garden]

@sand umbra

[cobalt pewter]

Br

[hot zephyr]

uh

[proper grail]

Fuck.

[hot zephyr]

I honestly think there's literally nobody who plays Calamity on Normal

[proper grail]

Why would they lol

[pine star]

yeah

[hot zephyr]

#MakeRevengeanceMandatory

[frail mantle]

there are some who do

but most people play Rev because that's the mod's intended difficulty

[hot zephyr]

*The lowest difficulty with a shred of balance

[tawny garden]

I'd like to see a person for which expert is difficult

[hardy dock]

I enjoy Expert’s chaos

It’s easy but fun

[tawny garden]

For a mod on which expert is unbalanced af

[hardy dock]

Rev is already encouraged

Balance is for the weak

[zealous ridge]

expert is nice in vanilla at the very least

Calamity is balanced around a mode 1 higher, and the mode is meant more for big boss changes vanilla and modded

fuck master with a deft passion

it is the worst

[proper grail]

Laughs in DADI nohitter

[zealous ridge]

I mode ...? That would be... iron heart?

[pine star]

yes

[proper grail]

Correct

[hot zephyr]

Isn't iron heart kinda pointless at that point?

What's health regen if one hit kills you?

[proper grail]

It's a good visual indicator for me to know when I have Armageddon enabled or not

[zealous ridge]

well wouldn’t it indicate that anyways

[proper grail]

I don't want to do a fight and realize I wasn't in the correct mode

[zealous ridge]

With the big indicator

[proper grail]

I was in an older version

[zealous ridge]

ah

[sand umbra]

lmao I come back and people have dissed my essays on suggs while I was asleep

I mean it's hilarious I'm just confused as to why you had to wait until I was asleep

[hot zephyr]

Why waste time say lot word when few word do trick?

[pine star]

So the ancient one has awoken

[zealous ridge]

because leaving certain things up to the imagination may produce an inaccurate depiction of what the suggestion is asking?

of course, people should try to strike a balance with length

I hardly think the things Thomas writes are essays

like, a thorough summary, but 3 paragraphs hardly qualifies

I can agree with the sentiment of keeping things concise, to be clear

[cobalt pewter]

Uh oh

Stinky

[radiant meadow]

@vapid ivy Yeah uhh you're not allowed to suggest new classes or specific items.

[zealous ridge]

oh fuck

[radiant meadow]

I recommend reading the pinned document about what is allowed to be suggested.

[eternal escarp]

damn

[vapid ivy]

Oh

[eternal escarp]

been a while before we had that

[zealous ridge]

yea no class ideas

[vapid ivy]

Im sorry

[eternal escarp]

its fine lol

[zealous ridge]

Yea just delet

[pine star]

Just remember to

[eternal escarp]

^

[cobalt pewter]

rogue is already pain in the 7th layer of ass to balance

[eternal escarp]

lmao

[gray nebula]

new class

[radiant meadow]

Let's bring it to the 8th

[gray nebula]

mech pilot

[cobalt pewter]

Iban you're just promoting your dev item smh...,,.,.,.,

[zealous ridge]

yea let’s do humor about this nonexistent joke

[gray nebula]

I mean it would make my dev item less unique technically

[zealous ridge]

it’s true

new mount class

[gray nebula]

but on the other side we'd have eva and other mecha references and cool stuff.

[frozen hornet]

Gundams

[gray nebula]

did you know a mech class was unrionically planned years ago until it wasnt

[vapid ivy]

Nooo

I wanted a mech class

[zealous ridge]

woa really

that sounds very much like the worst thing ever

[frozen hornet]

Imagine starbound style mechs

Yea doesn't sound very good

[zealous ridge]

starbound is kind of ass

[vapid ivy]

Nah just imagine a mech using rasengan

Wait im going off topic

[zealous ridge]

but offtobic

ye

[radiant meadow]

I like how the last paragraph starts with "In short"

[cobalt pewter]

in short

[vapid ivy]

Hm

[limber ocean]

in short

[eternal escarp]

ah yes, short

[proper grail]

Error, red text on grey background, readability nearing 0

[limber ocean]

yeah, I was about to say

[pine star]

[limber ocean]

I'm in the beach, can't read that

[vapid ivy]

Wait are biome suggestions allowed

[pine star]

No

[cobalt pewter]

No

[tawny garden]

No

[pine star]

[proper grail]

No

[cobalt pewter]

Read pins

[limber ocean]

Yesn't

[pine star]

Read the doc about what not to suggest

[proper grail]

The whole thing, not just some of it

[hot zephyr]

For all the people somehow more blind than me:

[zealous ridge]

god damn that wasn’t needed but go off ig

[hot zephyr]

[tawny garden]

What are you talking about? I can't see

[zealous ridge]

smh

[vapid ivy]

Rip my ideas

s h a t t e r e d b e f o r e m y e y e s

[hot zephyr]

Biome suggestions are bad because we've already got biomes that go underutilized (crags, sunken sea, astral underground)

(Yes, I know the Astral Underground is going to be fleshed out but that's not a current priority)

[zealous ridge]

fuck yea

[vapid ivy]

I feel like sunken sea is basically just there for a miniboss and a npc

[zealous ridge]

essentially

[hot zephyr]

Hey, hey, you're forgetting about two things

Three, actually

[proper grail]

Sunken sea is beautiful though

[hot zephyr]

Crafting mats, fishing, and voltaic jelly

[zealous ridge]

fuck off lmao

HARDLY

[tawny garden]

Biome/boss/etc. Suggs are banned also because 99% of the time the ideas that seem cool to whoever thought of them are actually complete and utter shit

[cobalt pewter]

Shellfish Staff doe 😳

[hot zephyr]

100%*

[zealous ridge]

shellfish staff is death

[hot zephyr]

Nobody wants shitty fanfic bosses

[cobalt pewter]

99.999999999%

[zealous ridge]

dreaded summon weapon

[vapid ivy]

True

Like if there wasnt a compelte ban on bosses ideas it would be

Look at the bosses

Look at a certain pattern in lore

Realise they are all connected

Realise your not as creative as you thought

[zealous ridge]

mostly we just need to work on current boss es

[vapid ivy]

I agree

I was messing around in revengance fighting yharon

[hot zephyr]

Boss suggestions, biome suggestions, SIS, etc are banned because having a hundred people adding stuff to the mod would ruin the cohesion.

[zealous ridge]

we can’t really afford to add more in light of so many bosses in this mod being pretty shitty

why donating for items was a bad idea ian

[hot zephyr]

(adding another boss also means a new tier (sometimes), new accessories/weapons, a new music track, etc)

Can also run into new crafting mats, etc

Then you start to realize that adding bosses bring crazy shifts to the mod's gameplay

It's why Old Duke was sandwiched between DoG and Polter as an optional fight

And why Draedon will be between Yharon and SCAL

[limber ocean]

OD kinda wack doe 😳

[pine star]

😳

[zealous ridge]

Well the idea is that you could beat either draedon or scal

Past yharon they’re about the same difficulty

[tawny garden]

Or Yharim iirc

[limber ocean]

Yharim's probably above them

[tawny garden]

Draedon, SCal or Yharim

A choice between three

Lore™️

[limber ocean]

Yharon -> Draedon/SCal -> Yharim

[vapid ivy]

We have:
Dry worm
Sea worm
Dark sea worm
Crimson wormies
Worm who eats gods
Worm of the worm who eats gods

[limber ocean]

Be weird if SCal was all "he's too strong" and then Yharim's about as powerful as she is

[hot zephyr]

We're getting off topic

[limber ocean]

Truth

[tawny garden]

Yes, we are

Shtick of this channel

[limber ocean]

Working btw

[hot zephyr]

I think we, as suggestors, should try to minimize suggestion length to better the chances of our suggestions getting starred.

It's a dual benefit kinda deal, shrinking our suggestion appeals to the average reader, as well as not pushing other suggestions up.

[limber ocean]

I don't think the length of a suggestion impacts my chances of starring it

[zealous ridge]

it’s difficult to agree on what is minimal, is essentially what it comes down to for me

[limber ocean]

but I speak for myself

[hot zephyr]

You'd be surprised

[limber ocean]

I'm not sure what other people think

[vapid ivy]

I have a tiny question

[hot zephyr]

I've started shrinking down my suggestions and I'm averaging higher amounts of stars.

[zealous ridge]

As with all communication you can’t just expect saying the smaller suggestion is better, it’s a balance of information and length

[vapid ivy]

Why is there so many worm bosses

[zealous ridge]

Because fabsol likes worm bosses

[limber ocean]

Well, depends on how much information you have to convey and the scope of the change you suggest

[zealous ridge]

for some reason

[hot zephyr]

Because worm AI is easier to work with than creating new AI

Suggestions shouldn't be short, but they should be concise.

[tawny garden]

It does, because not a lot of people read the long stuff

[zealous ridge]

Absolutely

[hot zephyr]

I've found, in terms of the suggestion meta, having shorter suggestions with eye-catching images gives you a higher chance of stars.

[zealous ridge]

the images I’m less fond of because of how annoying it is

[hot zephyr]

There's a time and place for everything

[zealous ridge]

but it would catch more people to read it

[limber ocean]

Suggestions about "nerf this attack" followed by a clip of getting oneshot bcuz arma are pretty eyecatching

[zealous ridge]

I prefer reading but the fact of the matter is most people won’t like reading every suggestion

[hot zephyr]

For example, I doubt this suggestion would've gotten nearly as many stars without the attached image

[zealous ridge]

I agree

[vapid ivy]

I once had yharon spawn two tornados legit directly next to me

[hot zephyr]

Same thing w/ Demik's arrow sugg that got like 400 stars

[cobalt pewter]

Think of the average suggestion reader to have attention span as big as a teaspoon

[tawny garden]

When I sugged stuff, I always wrote short suggs cause I don't have enough imagination to write water

[vapid ivy]

That was in rev mode

[zealous ridge]

that’s at least a wide one and not tall

the fucking why emote suggestion is big as hell

[hot zephyr]

chonky

[limber ocean]

beeg

[tawny garden]

I didn't star it

[zealous ridge]

Everywhere I go I see his face

[hot zephyr]

Don't worry, there's a less than zero % chance that gets enough stars

[tawny garden]

Yeah

[hot zephyr]

~~I beat Peepoweird, though, so I consider it a victory. ~~

[tawny garden]

I'm glad the peepo crap is over

[limber ocean]

Is it, tho

[tawny garden]

It was kinda dumb

[radiant meadow]

It is over because if it happens again, it's getting shut down.

[tawny garden]

Yeah Rover said that nobody can sugg the peepoweird emoji again

[zealous ridge]

lmao

[hot zephyr]

[limber ocean]

kek

[zealous ridge]

It has been suggested many a time

[radiant meadow]

On the bright side, I have a streak of 2 for getting an emote added via suggs while on break.

[hot zephyr]

What was the first?

[radiant meadow]

[cobalt pewter]

[hot zephyr]

Classic

[vapid ivy]

[zealous ridge]

why do you keep track of that...,,., that seems like such a silly thing to tally

[tawny garden]

What does mean

[zealous ridge]

“I suggested an emote and it got in for the second time in a row”

[tawny garden]

Please explain

[hot zephyr]

pogu was added because merk is biased and pushed it to voting early

[vapid ivy]

Ot means dimensonal interlooper

[zealous ridge]

it’s funny because he’s a squirrel like FARGO

[tawny garden]

Well it's used whenever fargo is mentioned

But like

What is this thing

[hot zephyr]

Ban emote suggestions, instead have an occasional emote contest. Change my mind.

[tawny garden]

No

[cobalt pewter]

Emote contest is

[tawny garden]

[hot zephyr]

Monkey's paw, now all emote suggestions attached images are like 66% bigger

[cobalt pewter]

Emote contest is a good way to build up brunge on server

[hot zephyr]

It'd just be a place for all emote suggestions to be fired off in rapid suggestion, then we'd be done with them for a few months

[tawny garden]

Hdhchfhsitfaufgaighzkvhaht zcsitovjxtdughztckctsofur9sefighjlyhe deihkfygfhghictijvgui hxyhofyfihldyfkchy egdjch

[hot zephyr]

Same

[proper grail]

I'm surprised the suggestion cap was only approved

[unreal viper]

add emote suggs to don'ts

[hot zephyr]

If only

If you don't star Sand's sugg to remove frigid bars I'm going to break into your house at 3 AM and turn you into a cube

[tawny garden]

That will be a breeding ground for idiocy
Change my mind

[hot zephyr]

We're in Calamain

Idiocy is the norm

[earnest cape]

Now for tophat dimensionalInterloper

[tawny garden]

Yes but
There will be even more of it

And in channels other than caltalk and gentalk

[hot zephyr]

a majority of my implemented suggestions never actually hit the required stars

[tawny garden]

"Instant flags"

Terminology™️

[hot zephyr]

Makes you wonder if stars really matter, they really only slightly increase the likelihood of getting a sugg passed

[sharp prism]

ok Ian

[hot zephyr]

hm?

[tawny garden]

I wanted to count the instant flags in the search that I did

But it's kinda hard to do

[hot zephyr]

We need to do a suggestion meta doc, for science.

[tawny garden]

these responses make you look dumb

[hot zephyr]

Random interjections that add nothing to the conversation as a whole?

[zealous ridge]

death

[sharp prism]

what

[tawny garden]

I've done enough science™️ for now #suggestions-discussion message

[hot zephyr]

Glorious

[sharp prism]

you have to much time on you hands

[hot zephyr]

Now we need to take it back

Increase the data to every suggestion since the posting-voting split

[tawny garden]

wut

[hot zephyr]

posting and voting used to be the same channel until amber made a bot

[tawny garden]

posting-voting split was on 20th of April

[hot zephyr]

ah damn

i'm having memory loss

We've gotta go back even further

Back to 2018

[tawny garden]

and I was here long before that

I was originally gonna go back to 2018 but

[sharp prism]

to 208

[hot zephyr]

Can we stop adding generic emotes to the server?

[earnest cape]

My sigg is at 187 and im experiencing pain

[tawny garden]

it's really messy down there

[earnest cape]

Sugg

[tawny garden]

sig

[hot zephyr]

I literally didn't even know kekw wasn't in the server because I have like 20 different variations

[sharp prism]

sigg

[earnest cape]

Time to take that out of context :D

[sharp prism]

:epic:

[tawny garden]

if you have mess down there, it's your problem

[earnest cape]

Dang

[tawny garden]

don't extrapolate from you to me

[earnest cape]

:/

[hot zephyr]

Get a room or get back on topic.

[earnest cape]

Was about to say why kekw

We have

[hot zephyr]

Emote suggestions don't need reasons

[earnest cape]

Yeah ik about that

[sharp prism]

why i only do emote suggs

[earnest cape]

~~but we already have kek emote ~~

[sharp prism]

thats

ech

[hot zephyr]

:kech:

[tawny garden]

@sharp prism it's better to embed an actual image into your sugg

through the + button

[sharp prism]

ech

[tawny garden]

then have a link

because of how bot handles linked embeds vs. embed embeds

[hot zephyr]

Would that even work with the bot?

[tawny garden]

yes

[hot zephyr]

The link, not the embed

[tawny garden]

the bot will repost the image in the sugg

ah

the bot will not embed the image if it's linked

[hot zephyr]

I couldn't put directly into the suggestion because the bot would kerfluffle.

[tawny garden]

I thought it would just

post ":why:" instead of a proper emote

[hot zephyr]

Nah it'd do like emote-192391923812 or somethin'

[sharp prism]

give like 4 minutes because i cant edit the image into the original sugg

[tawny garden]

but you needed the picture anyway

[hot zephyr]

Yes

[tawny garden]

it will do smth like

!HDfailure

[sharp prism]

[hot zephyr]

Yep

[sharp prism]

this timer

is uh

really ticking down

[hot zephyr]

Boy my favorite suggestor sure is <userid-359879246446854147>

[sharp prism]

it thats true

[tawny garden]

@hot zephyr

I think that still pinged

[sharp prism]

who did that ping

[tawny garden]

Ian

[hot zephyr]

It pinged me lmao

[sharp prism]

lmao

[tawny garden]

that's your id

[hot zephyr]

[tawny garden]

also Dank

you missed a second colon

[sharp prism]

ech

[tawny garden]

it's ":kekw:", not ":kekw"

cool

[sharp prism]

that little message is there to make the bot not break

[sleek turret]

kekw

[tawny garden]

it won't break anyway

it will just have the title

[sharp prism]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[hot zephyr]

I'd like to make a shoutout to @ashen warren who always stars my suggestions. Thank you ❤️

[tawny garden]

[pine star]

[hot zephyr]

[tranquil perch]

BYECH

YES

I LOVE YOU IAN

Thank you for the blessing

[hot zephyr]

what

[tranquil perch]

the sole fact that byech exists

a mix of my favorite emotes

i use too much

[tawny garden]

get nitro

and use your byech

[tranquil perch]

nah, i will just use it as a png instead

[tawny garden]

[tranquil perch]

modern problems require modern solutions

[tawny garden]

bootleg nitro

[pine star]

[tranquil perch]

i'll use it when my warn wears off, that is

||||

[tawny garden]

why were you warned

[radiant meadow]

reminder to keep on topic to suggestions in here please :)

[gray nebula]

[radiant meadow]

@ashen warren Yeah uhh, that's kind of a meme suggestion

[golden patio]

incredible new suggestion posted

[hollow shell]

Haha, funny The Rock suggestion

[wooden wedge]

why has it not been deleted if it breaks a dont tho

[hollow shell]

Point and laugh at the fool who breaks the Don'ts

[zealous ridge]

FOOL

[hollow shell]

ok I'll delete it

[zealous ridge]

[radiant meadow]

I was just waiting to see if they would respond first but I guess not.

[cerulean estuary]

what did they suggest for a use

[ashen warren]

somone in #calamity-mod-talk asked me to suggest it

[zealous ridge]

okay but its a big ass meme so lets nah

could probably stay in cal talk

they suggested to make rock a use in a rock furniture

[cerulean estuary]

the virgin #calamity-mod-talk vs the chad #suggestions-discussion

[zealous ridge]

terror

[pine star]

[hot zephyr]

Do I have to sprite rock furniture now

[wooden wedge]

no

go home

[tawny garden]

only in your mod

[hot zephyr]

Good, I didn't want to sprite rock furniture

[unreal viper]

add rock to any stone 😳

[tawny garden]

rockstone

pearlrockstone

[gaunt parrot]

Do you guys think Ice Barrage could use a bit of a buff? It feels clunky and inconsistent as fuck to use.

[radiant meadow]

it used to be a whole lot worse It would be best to wait until after update to ask for buffs/nerfs to any post moon lord weapons as there will be lots of rebalancing

[zealous ridge]

could see it getting buffed

Even past current power scaling to make it viable against new yharon

But Suggs can hold off for that stuff

after all, we don’t know the extent to which new changes will alter their respective weapons

so, agreed

[dapper coral]

yeah, testing is still ongoing for post-ml because power curve flattening shenanigans

[zealous ridge]

I’d imagine

but even in a sense of, “this weapon was tested and it’s general concept was weak, so we’re giving it a new ability”, not even just number shifts

as an example, how vivid clarity and subsuming vortex were altered from their original forms

[dapper coral]

well it's a patreon item, so new abilities aren't likely

[zealous ridge]

that’s fair

but I just mean like, a kind of buff that changes it’s inherent effeciveness against other foes

[dapper coral]

perhaps

[zealous ridge]

ice barrage to me screams stationary or multi target area damage

which may be a difficult thing to justify, given the high mobility of yharon for example

so yea a fun little buf in some way like that could be a possibility

That’s all there is to say, though

As long as no sugg is really made

[crude geode]

The problem is that ice barrage requires a Draedon’s gorge

Forge*

If it didn’t, you could use it for pumpkin moon after frost moon murder

[zealous ridge]

and, soon, eclipse

that’s something that may be expounded upon, however, so it’s hard to say

[crude geode]

Hopefully

[zealous ridge]

For instance, maybe a few more items may be moved pre-forge

So that they have a more clear use for the events specifically

[crude geode]

that would be nice

[zealous ridge]

I could see the major aoe options being moved to pre-forge for that purpose

[crude geode]

Yeah

But who knows

Also is it just me, or is Yharim’s Crystal just Last Prism but better damage

It feels boring when compared to Dark Spark.

[pine star]

I think it is just a Last Prism++++

[golden narwhal]

It is p much if not exactly the same aside from damage

[crude geode]

Maybe it’s just me not liking beam weapons very often, but it feels very boring and lazy for such a seemingly rare drop

[golden narwhal]

Would be better if it had its own gimmick/was more unique, yea

[crude geode]

Void Vortex drops at a higher rate, but is infinitely more interesting

[pine star]

yeah

[zealous ridge]

what if it quickly alternated between spread and beam faster and faster the longer it is channeled

that’s all, a simple thought

again it’s rebalance territory but it do be a fun idea

[crude geode]

I don't really care about Yharim's Crystal's balance currently tbh, just about how boring it is currently.

[zealous ridge]

yea

It would affect how it works, at least

Which would affect balancing

[crude geode]

true

[radiant meadow]

Splitting those types of laser beams sounds really annoying

[crude geode]

true, I'll remove that option

[zealous ridge]

In that case, it could periodically focus more layers of lasers inwards up to a maximum

instead of focusing and unfocusing

[crude geode]

frankly the laser gimmick itself is already handled pretty well by dark spark. I like how unique how it is, and how it functions (which is surprising for a donor weapon). I'd prefer something that actually relates to Yharon/Yharim, instead of just random laser beams.

[zealous ridge]

that’s also an option

[crude geode]

Afterall, it is Yharim's Crystal

[zealous ridge]

dark spark certainly focuses on doing a new thing as an upgrade to prism

it being a crystal, at least in current shape, still makes me think it shoots lasers

Unless it worked like Medusa head

[crude geode]

I do think that just because it's a crystal, it doesn't mean lasers should be the only thing it does

and lasers only relate via dragonfolly's weird laser beam thing, not present in yharon's fight

[zealous ridge]

It’s shape at least is very remiscent of prism, is more so what I meant

It’s hard to argue crystal vile shard is similar to prism bc it’s also crystal weapon

[radiant meadow]

Yharim's Crystal now shoots Yharon's new border firewalls

[zealous ridge]

horrific

[crude geode]

epic

[radiant meadow]

complete with the player instakill

[zealous ridge]

But what about the wand

if it would still do tornadoes

[radiant meadow]

The wand is still nados

[zealous ridge]

yeah I guess

still dumb, basically a repeat of the same concept

I think it was a joke tho

so nice meme

[crude geode]

Wand's Infernadoes are pretty damn large tbh, so I imagine if Yharim's Crystal were to use Infernadoes, it would use smaller ones
indeed.

[dapper coral]

firewalls are different from tornadoes

[zealous ridge]

This is estabaished

[crude geode]

it is established next update™️

[zealous ridge]

I just mean the extent of differences isn’t known but I’d assume the border is functionally different

but regardless

[crude geode]

I believe it means it doesn't wiggle and is instead more stationary of a hitbox
byech

[zealous ridge]

ye

[hollow shell]

(idea: Yharim's Crystal's lasers start out way wider/distant than Last Prism's. When they converge, they don't go in all the way, still having a bit of a cone of circulation. But after a few moments of not converging further, a big fucking thick laser shoots out straight from the middle towards where you're aiming, with the initial beams circling around it.)

(This has been, Unrealistic Idea Hour, with Rover)

[zealous ridge]

gahh

[weak field]

Grrr

[zealous ridge]

I don’t like it rover ur idea
SUCKS

worst wiki administrator

[weak field]

Tbh that is a creative idea

[zealous ridge]

I feel it’s too similar to prism

[weak field]

And I'd love to see some variety in prism weapons

[zealous ridge]

I think it should just be not a prism weapon

[weak field]

Better than the current one which is literally the prism

[zealous ridge]

I feel like having it be separate is ideal

[hollow shell]

It'd be better than some of Cursed's ideas

[zealous ridge]

Well arguably anything with more variation with its laser would be better

[hollow shell]

Last Prism except it spawns projectiles on hit

[zealous ridge]

Tbh true

extreme fucking LAG

imagine beaming full length devourer like that

600 million projectile

[hollow shell]

Well the laser would of course get deleted instantly, making the weapon completely unusable against the boss, for balance reasons

[zealous ridge]

i thought that was fixed iirc

or were you meme ing

(because funny humor statement if that was the case)

[hollow shell]

Didn't know that was fixed but yes :P

[zealous ridge]

i dont think its out, its just a thing in logs i thought

[hot zephyr]

sad Cursed noises

[zealous ridge]

but it might be released

[hollow shell]

(alternatively, take inspiration from ROB's final smash and have accelerating homing projectiles get shot out from you as you shoot)

[hot zephyr]

Give Yharim's crystal homing.

You ever used spoon bender-brimstone in TBOI? Then you'd know exactly how it'd work out.

[crude geode]

Yharon in isaac? Is this real?
Personally, beam weapons are boring to me, but I find the idea of Yharon’s ultimate super rare drop being a beam weapon to kinda not fit with his theming.

He doesn’t use a beam attack anywhere in his fight, so it kinda doesn’t make sense.

It’s like if slime God’s ultimate rare drop was themed around purple fireballs.

[cobalt pewter]

What if, first and foremost, we reskin the beams into inferno beams, to fit the theme a bit better 😳

[sharp prism]

i agree

make it inflict on fire

based

[zealous ridge]

Do you mean “ usable anywhere underground”?

[cobalt pewter]

Was about to say that

[zealous ridge]

I’m unable to ping celest

I’m guessing it’s some sort of setting lol

[heady storm]

@jovial spire missing words: “usable.”

[jovial spire]

yeah, thanks

dunno what you expect, im known for my spelling errors

[heady storm]

It’s whatever.

[radiant meadow]

If Necroplasmic Beacon can be used outside the dungeon, it kind of muddles his identity as the dungeon boss.

The primary reason he doesn't enrage outside of the dungeon is to not mandate people needing to add stuff like actuated dungeon bricks in big arenas.

[hot zephyr]

Dungeon boss was a terrible idea; I support the suggestion

[radiant meadow]

And it also seems pointless to remove only Polter's req

when other bosses like Yharon are in a similar position

[hot zephyr]

IMO; I think boss enrage/requirements need to be changed for 90% of the mod's fights

Biome restrictions are almost always terrible; and just add to the tediousness of creating arenas.

Taking most bosses out of biome, if it doesn't give the player a huge advantage, should only be marginally more difficult.

For static biomes, that're hardcoded into the game, the restrictions make sense. But for something like Cryogen? All the restrictions do is force players to expand an artificial biome

[jovial spire]

I mean, the enrage would probably just have to be changed in that case if that's the main intention, because people who do know that polter doesnt enrage outside of the dungeon generally just go to their folly/palntera/PBG area and fight him there since that's already their biggest underground arena, why spend 15 minutes making another? That's generally people's logic.

[hot zephyr]

It's chart time!

[radiant meadow]

Polter literally isn't meant to be fought in the jungle.

[hazy creek]

I wish pulse bow was easier to get. Played a ranger class not too long ago and the only reason I couldn’t get Ultima was because of a pulse bow. Ultima is cool but sometimes ya just get bad luck :/

[hot zephyr]

Themeing shouldn't be the literal only reason for a biome restriction

[cobalt pewter]

At that point just cheat it in

[radiant meadow]

This "biome restriction" is simply just for spawning the boss

[cobalt pewter]

I think a sugg about making Pulse Bow more accessible is approved already

[hot zephyr]

Exactly, it's so arbitrary it should be removed

[radiant meadow]

And Polter is not the only boss like this

If you are going to make a suggestion

you should go all in

but you're not

@jovial spire Putting aside the fact that I just very much disagree with this suggestion. If you're going to suggest something like this, go all in. Polter isn't the only boss like this. It seems extremely arbitrary to only suggest it for one.

[jovial spire]

Imo it's just by far most jarring for polter

Since generally there's 2 catagories of people when it comes to fighting potler in arenas:

1. They still don't realize Polter doesn't enrage outside of the dungeon, actuates dungweon bricks and palces unsafe walls and such anyways.
2. They realize he doesn't, takes him to somewhere else entirely that isnt the dungeon so they dont have to make a whole other arena, or just cheese it by fighting it in hell for an easy kill.

[cobalt pewter]

Rework the biome restrictions on boss spawns to be interactive, and by that you stroke the item gently with your trackpad, then shake it violently, then run around back and forth before making a pentagram with yourself with a Torch in the middle. Right as you're done, throw the item away and use Astral Injection to damage yourself in order to finish spawning.

[hot zephyr]

[jovial spire]

honestly, maybe a better solution would be to just change how polter's enrage works.

[radiant meadow]

Yeah well, even if it's more noticeble for Polter, I don't see why others should be excluded from the suggestion.

[jovial spire]

but I can't think of a good way

[hot zephyr]

Remove all biome restrictions

No gods, no masters

[jovial spire]

i was onyl thinking of polter at the time so I'll probably delete this suggestion and just make a new one

brb

[crude geode]

Astral injection is a really bad item, that I can only think of using with beam weapons.

[radiant meadow]

Remove biome restrictions from the Rune of Kos. Summons all 3 sentinels at once every time without fail.

[jovial spire]

[hot zephyr]

Good idea

[cobalt pewter]

It makes Ion Blaster and Apoctosis Array lame weapons, so ye

[radiant meadow]

Buff the sentinels for good measure

[jovial spire]

finally, all those people who were begging for a draedon's remote equivelent for the sentinals get their wish

Anywasy tbh I'd rather come up with a good solution to this sorta problem first

So it'll probably be a bit, this sort of problem has always really bugged me

[crude geode]

What is the actual purpose of Astral Injectjon though? We already have both the power of mana regen and mana pots, why is astral injection needed?

[cobalt pewter]

Because funne infinite mana

[radiant meadow]

I dunno, but I like using it

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[cobalt pewter]

Make Astral Injection take 5% HP instead of 5HP tbh....,,,,.,.

[jovial spire]

50% HP

[cobalt pewter]

[pine star]

[crude geode]

It just seems...not needed to me.

[cobalt pewter]

rework astral injection to crazy movespeed instead of inf mana

[hot zephyr]

Question, isn't the Profaned Crags hardcoded? You can't make artificial crags iirc?

[zenith hazel]

you can

[hot zephyr]

Interesting

[jovial spire]

or the Oynx Excavator Key

time to find Oynx Excavator pre boss and get Philosipher's Stone before king slime

[cobalt pewter]

Isn't it still post-skelly at the very least? Due to shadow chests

[crude geode]

If anyone has any complains about my most recent sugg, ping me

[radiant meadow]

onyx excavator scales with pick power now so that's outdated

[cobalt pewter]

Need a HD of this plox

[hot zephyr]

Blame automatic image compression

If you download it, should be better.

[wooden wedge]

opening it in browser also works

[cobalt pewter]

Yeah currently looking at browser

Maybe mark the "biome restrictions" bubble as the start?

Also might be easier to use their boss icons instead of the bosses themselves

Currently in chat Deus looks like a line of beads

The size of boss icons are consistent and can help decipher which bosses are which in a first glance

[hot zephyr]

I think it has enough readability for something I threw together in a few minutes

[cobalt pewter]

Well I mean, those are for if you're planning to sugg that

[hot zephyr]

I'm going to make a suggestion about boss enrages soon-ish, but I didn't want to make an essay suggestion/take up waaaay to much room in voting as well as not having to go into detail about every boss.

[cobalt pewter]

Yeah, polishing on that diagram would help making suggesting that issue easier

[crude geode]

Arguably, Restriction #5 restrictions are based on lore even tho Yharon's makes no sense

[hot zephyr]

Putting lore over gameplay is bad

[crude geode]

It'd be kinda weird to summon this living crab mushroom outside of the mushroom biome.

[cobalt pewter]

On the topic of boss summoning, most of them are bland

[radiant meadow]

I think Crabulon belongs more in Scenario 1.

[cobalt pewter]

Only Deus I find interesting to spawn everytime

Almost everything else just "here, hold this thing up"

[radiant meadow]

he no likey if you leave mushroom biome

[hot zephyr]

I thought Crabulon was just outside of cavern, not mushroom?

[radiant meadow]

he also no likey surface

[crude geode]

nope, outside of mushroom.

[radiant meadow]

he checks both

[crude geode]

odd, wiki only says mushroom

[radiant meadow]

so leaving both increases the enrage even more

[cobalt pewter]

muchroom

[hot zephyr]

TIL I've been fighting semi-enraged Crabulon for years

[cobalt pewter]

Wasn't the enrage changes recent?

[radiant meadow]

Crabulon's enrage is kinda recent iirc

[cobalt pewter]

I think along with Dmode changes

So .003

Or .004?

Actually might be .003

[radiant meadow]

regardless, it does put him in scenario 1 rather than 5

[hot zephyr]

Alright

Editing that

[crude geode]

Wait

how are the servants of devourer in Scenario 3?

[hot zephyr]

Their summoning item requires the biome restrictions

[cobalt pewter]

Doesn't CV enrage outside of Dungeon?

[hot zephyr]

They've got a special condition with their summon requiring biomes

It's one of the "alternate reasons"

[cobalt pewter]

Also isn't Dungeon one of the more "expandable" areas due to the unsafe walls?

[crude geode]

You could also just make different versions of the summoning item. There's no real reason for Signus to be down in hell.

[cobalt pewter]

So shouldn't CV be in #1 as well?

[crude geode]

^

[cobalt pewter]

CV enrages outside of Dungeon, and Dungeon can be expanded

Boom, #1 reqs checked

I can't recall if Signus enrages, but SW definitely doesn't

[crude geode]

Signus does not.

[radiant meadow]

because people kept complaining about SW enrage :/

[cobalt pewter]

It do be like dat

And yeah, might want to sort the bosses by themselves instead of by their summon items

[crude geode]

I'd argue that Brimmy is the worst offender of Scenario #1 tbh

Since lava sucks to deal with

[cobalt pewter]

So SW and signus can move to #4, while CV can move to #1

[cobalt pewter]

Why is SW 5 again

Lemme check

[hot zephyr]

summons in a specific biome, can't enrage (iirc)

[cobalt pewter]

Ohh

So I guess Signus should be the same?

[hot zephyr]

Does Signus have biome enrage?

[crude geode]

nope

[cobalt pewter]

No

[hot zephyr]

Damn, Mandela effect be real.

[cobalt pewter]

get real

[radiant meadow]

At one point, signus did

[hot zephyr]

I knew it!

[crude geode]

weird.

[radiant meadow]

although not really keen on them having different summon items

[hot zephyr]

charge the rune of kos with different biome materials, turns rune of kos into a charged rune, using the rune depletes the charge and reverts it to the original form

[radiant meadow]

Just because lore shouldn't take precedence over gameplay doesn't mean it shouldn't exist at all I think.

which is honestly how this feels

[hot zephyr]

Most of the changes are to decrease the amount of terraforming you have to do on the world for death bosses

[crude geode]

Signus has no reason to be in hell is my issue.

[radiant meadow]

I believe signus being in hell is tied to lore.

iirc

[golden narwhal]

Ye, he's hunting provi

[crude geode]

lore page doesn't say anything about that

[golden narwhal]

And I do agree with what ben said

[crude geode]

I agree as well, it's the reason why crabulon and polter summons are restricted.

[golden narwhal]

Having a cluster of corruption creatures be summoned outside the corruption would be weird

[crude geode]

^^^^^^^^^

Summon EoW in the Hallow

[golden narwhal]

[crude geode]

solution, make a "deployable [biome] arena" consumable made up of materials from said biome, that instantly makes a decent arena out of said materials, with actuated blocks and everything

[hot zephyr]

arena solution

Just blast an arena out of your clentaminator

[cobalt pewter]

Sounds like something outta fargo's

[crude geode]

never played fargo's, surprisingly

[hot zephyr]

Aren't yoyo bag upgrades a don't?

[sturdy geyser]

calamity yoyo bag buffed reference

[hot zephyr]

[radiant meadow]

Just adding it to ele gauntlet is a don't I think

but Yoyo Bag upgrade still sounds awful regarding balance

[hot zephyr]

Why does yoyos get funny subclass acc

Where's my flail/spear/shortsword accessories

[distant gyro]

Yoyo Bag upgrade is generally awful yes

[zealous ridge]

because yoyo bag is reds funny fever dream

because yoyos have to be viable

[distant gyro]

it is the only subclass that gets a "hi what's up I am yoyo glove here's double damage"

[zealous ridge]

it is very bullshit

aside from if you count whips

and minion slots, to a degree

because i mean idk if youd call minions a "subclass" of summoner but

sentries are at least a seperate count

[distant gyro]

yoyo is a fictional subclass, it's only there to cross product-place one drop

[zealous ridge]

it literally IS

its not fictional, its just a fucking product placement

because yoyos cool

and yoyos are pretty cool but now we have to suffer bc of yoyos existing as weapons with terrible balance and variety

also cool astral injection sugg

mana sickness not being a reason to use the item is a bad reason though

because it is literally inconsequential

injection is actually pretty busted

the damage loss is pretty negligible all things considered

even if it is like, 50% at max duration

[distant gyro]

infinite mana is fun

[zealous ridge]

it’s still usually some loss in damage, but considering the lack of breaks between firing AND the fact that rather than flat mana, it gives a big boost to regen over x amount of time

it wrecks shit

im sure it’s funny to watch your mana not fall

but it feels pretty broken

like, it’s too extreme at least

I would be okay with complete removal, as well, but god forbid that happen once a blue moon

So I feel like it’s more likely that it’s just going to change

[sand umbra]

yoyo bag upgrade

[hot zephyr]

Where the fuck is my flail bag

[sand umbra]

in the trash along with the rest of the uninspired ideas that ruin balance

1.4 flails are king anyway Calamity flails with 1.4 mechanics are gonna be supreme pog

[hot zephyr]

dragon pow spin

[cobalt pewter]

Haha Dragon Pow go brr

[zealous ridge]

dragon pow doesn’t need speen

[hot zephyr]

Dragon Pow is as much as a flail as Ball of Fugu and Flairon are

[zealous ridge]

it can be virgin thrown flail like a boss

At least I see fugu being interesting as spinflail if reworked

It just sprays needles everywhere

[hot zephyr]

I'm gonna suggest a Ball of Fugu change soon-ish :p

[cobalt pewter]

Pulse Dragon spin doe 😳

[zealous ridge]

pulse dragon is nice enough right now

Idk how a spin would work though, might be interesting

Could be both heads spin out pretty far

there would also be tumbleweed

And I guess to list the rest off, urchin, yat, and clam

[manic aspen]

Pirates are approaching from the west!

[zealous ridge]

Oh god it’s posted

[hot zephyr]

Link it

And don't beg for stars

[manic aspen]

just scroll up dsgadfsg

'

[hot zephyr]

Damn

[manic aspen]

#suggestions-voting message

here

fdgfdggsfdggfsd

[hot zephyr]

Hmm

Nah

[manic aspen]

it already got 200 stars lol

[hot zephyr]

[manic aspen]

aaaaaa

[zealous ridge]

now stop talking about it and be Patient

[hollow shell]

(I dislike the yoyo bag upgrade sugg because its reason is primarily motivated by a subclass challenge playthrough)

(I don't know if it's valid or not)

[cobalt pewter]

Isn't like, subclass buffs a don't or smth

Lemme check

FUCK

Bad crop

There

[hollow shell]

He is kind of implying that yoyos aren't as viable in all of PostML

[cobalt pewter]

Also mans kinda said he was doing a yoyo only, and that counts as "self-imposed challenge"

[golden narwhal]

I mean, the obvious solution to that is buffing them

[hollow shell]

"yoyo bag deserves upgrades as it was originally meant to be to complete the original game"

[cobalt pewter]

What

I don't understand that phrase

[hollow shell]

meaning: "yoyo bag was only meant to be used up to Moon Lord"

He did phrase it very strangely

[tawny garden]

Uh

How wasn't it exclamated yet

[cobalt pewter]

Idk

[tawny garden]

I'm starting to doubt the system

[cobalt pewter]

Yoyo Bag is considerably powerful as it is because it literally doubles your weapon with a single use

[hollow shell]

Because it's not like
a textbook case of Don't-breaking

[tawny garden]

They even admit to doing a subclass challenge

[hollow shell]

Yeah
Fuck it, :exclamation:

[cobalt pewter]

Lol

How's the limit btw rover

The sugg was approved

[hollow shell]

@hollow pelican See the Suggestion Don't screenshotted above

[cobalt pewter]

[sand umbra]

bag is already stupid and it should not be given upgrades ever thank you for coming to my TED talk

[hollow shell]

And yeah, that's right, forgot that I was pinged about that

[cobalt pewter]

That's short tom

I thought you'd drop an essay

But kool

[sand umbra]

would you like me to

because I very much can and am more than willing to

[hollow shell]

I'm unsure on what a good value would be but I think 2 per day is solid enough

[cobalt pewter]

Ye 2 a day is cool

[sand umbra]

2 per day sounds reasonable enough, methinks

[tawny garden]

Cool

[sand umbra]

high enough to let people get ideas in at a reasonable pace, and low enough to prevent any one person having a monopoly on suggs

[proper grail]

Sounds about right

[dapper coral]

2 is fine, yea

[cobalt pewter]

I'm particularly not a yoyo man myself because most yoyos are pretty boring in gameplay anyways, but feel free

[dapper coral]

basically means that feedzuh is die and thomas/cursed/IHS/whoever else are slightly restricted

[sand umbra]

bruh I'm not even really affected

I space out my suggs like mad anyway

[cobalt pewter]

Thomas can only sugg every 33 moons lined up

[sand umbra]

there's like once in a blue moon I do more than 2 on any given day

[hollow shell]

Yeah Thomas isn't frequent but he is avid

[dapper coral]

that's why i said slightly
it is very unlikely lmao

[tawny garden]

The only one who's affected is feedza iirc

[sand umbra]

watch me immediately hit a roadblock because of this

[proper grail]

Feedzuh is kill

[sand umbra]

also yeah rip feedza lmao

[cobalt pewter]

I've ascended beyond suggestions anyways byeah

[hot zephyr]

[cobalt pewter]

I've been slowing down a bit recently

[hot zephyr]

Can you still show us how to scratch it?

[tawny garden]

Feedza has posted more suggs in total than Thomas did since the posting-voting split

[hollow shell]

(When did you join the sugg area, Feedzuh? It wasn't that long ago.
I remember you had the anime booby pfps)

[tawny garden]

In july

I think

[cobalt pewter]

bruh when july

[proper grail]

So the limit is going to be implemented?

[sand umbra]

me when
when anime tiddy pfp

[tawny garden]

Several of them

[cobalt pewter]

I've ascended beyond anime tiddy and now my pfps have been mostly cat

[hollow shell]

Aight yeah, p recent

[sand umbra]

imagine havin' a woman as your pfp

couldn't be me

[hot zephyr]

Imagine having a profile picture

[cobalt pewter]

"but Katelyn-"

[hollow shell]

This post was made by Photonic0 gang

[tawny garden]

Imagine caring about pfps

[hot zephyr]

Imagine

• john lennon

[cobalt pewter]

Either way, why are we discussing pfps now lmoa

[hollow shell]

Funne

[cobalt pewter]

Byeah, I started suggesting early july

[hollow shell]

So uh yeah I'll write down the sugg limit somewhere

[cobalt pewter]

With Betsy's Wings perk that only got approved

[hollow shell]

And maybe also do something else

that's sugg-related

[sand umbra]

yeah you joined like 6 months ago and you are already well on your way to surpassin' me in terms of sugg count

[hot zephyr]

What is it, Rover?

[cobalt pewter]

funne

[sand umbra]

not that I mind of course

quantity and quality, after all, are two separate ballparks

[cobalt pewter]

Again, I'm starting to frequent a bit less on round here, so maybe I'll sugg if I have minor inconveniences with smth

Back to docs

[proper grail]

I think all of my suggestions have passed at least 150, I'll eventually repost the ones that got buried

[sand umbra]

gotta hit 'em with the quality over quantity suggs
these days I mainly only suggest something if I really have all my ducks in a row regarding it

[hot zephyr]

Suggest everything

[sand umbra]

such as the Cryonic metal meme (which got to 200 surprisingly fast)

[hot zephyr]

Delete frigid bars

[sand umbra]

please no Cryo needs an actual mat drop if Verstaltite is to become not-strictly-post-Cryo

"but Permafrost"
Permafrost sells you like 2 and a half items post-Cryo okay

[proper grail]

The Frost Moon one everyone said would get shut down, but actually made it to the devs

[sand umbra]

most of his wares are only unlocked after all the Mechs or the Frost Moon

[hot zephyr]

I'm surprised surpassed :peepoweird:

[cobalt pewter]

Because peepoweird was a beaten up horse

[hot zephyr]

So do we beat up next?

[sand umbra]

peepoweird is dead stop beating it up

cats are eternal

(for now)

[hot zephyr]

was just a picture of my cat I cropped

[sand umbra]

cats are good emote material

[hollow shell]

(I couldn't even read Ian's sentence properly, I thought it ended at the word "surpassed" and he was using ":peepoweird:" as a not-emoji)

[hot zephyr]

[sand umbra]

why is it not called BearStare

[radiant meadow]

An emote named why likely wouldn't fly anyways

[hot zephyr]

Just rename it then

[sand umbra]

:why_are_you_like_this:

[terse sundial]

it would be renamed to something similar

yeah

[hollow shell]

or :CatWhy:

[dapper coral]

:porque:

[terse sundial]

we'll figure it out if it hits 140

[hot zephyr]

it won't

[sand umbra]

no español
h

[radiant meadow]

Yeah people did not understand that the emote was a why are you like this rather than reasons why

[proper grail]

So to be clear the limit is getting implemented? 🤞

[cobalt pewter]

Mhm

[sand umbra]

it affects like 2 and a half people
but yes, it is happening

[cobalt pewter]

Only 1 is affected tbh....,,,.,.,

[radiant meadow]

Probably like 2 or 3 a day

[proper grail]

Those 2.5 people make a lot of clutter lol

[hot zephyr]

Who's the half person?

[dapper coral]

we said 2 a little above

[proper grail]

2 seems right

[radiant meadow]

Aka don't be dumb and post 5 suggs in the span of an hour

[sand umbra]

Feedza and IHS are the two main people
there's like occasionally times where I post more than 2 a day

although I have not had one of those days in a very long time

(and for good reason)

[proper grail]

Don't forget Cursed

[sand umbra]

who is that again

[proper grail]

CursedBeing

[sand umbra]

oh yeah them

I think I saw them do more than 2 in a day like once or twice and that was it

I don't think this is gonna be particularly relevant to them

[radiant meadow]

The limit is barely relevant at all because you just shouldn't post so many because you just set yourself up for failure at that point

[proper grail]

Not everyone realizes that though

[hot zephyr]

It should be one a day.

[proper grail]

Especially when inspired

[radiant meadow]

Then we just tell them to calm down

It is not a common occurrence

[proper grail]

Suggestions get buried far too rapidly

One per day would be better than 2, but 2 is reasonable

[radiant meadow]

A suggestion limit won't really change that since the fault isn't only to one person

[sand umbra]

byeah I
don't think this limit is gonna do much of anything

[hot zephyr]

It's time to shrink-o the suggestions

Instead of a suggestion limit, we're going to do a word limit (sarcasm)

[sand umbra]

oh god

please no

[proper grail]

We won't know if it does anything until we try

[sand umbra]

you can't do me like that

[hot zephyr]

Thomas and Feedzuh can no longer post in #suggestions-posting

[radiant meadow]

But yeah, limit will be installed as a spiritual failsafe

[hot zephyr]

Now nobody can stop my storm of graphic-based suggestions

Fear me, my graphs, and my charts.

[proper grail]

Statistics

[hot zephyr]

I compensate my lack of embed in gentalk with embedding in suggposting

[tawny garden]

There's already a 2000 char limit
But Thomas can break out his google docs

[sand umbra]

ian's about to DESTROY the star threshold with FACTS and LOGIC

[hot zephyr]

Thomas, do what I do and move your suggestions to images because nobody wants to click on a doc

[sand umbra]

and most importantly PICTURES

[proper grail]

I just use novelist's grammar to get things passed lol

[hollow shell]

I was wondering if instead of 2 per day, we do 10 per week
so some 2 per days are allowed, but most will be 1 per day

[hot zephyr]

Has anyone even gone over 10/week?

[hollow shell]

But I decided that would prolly suck trying to keep tabs on everybody's sugg numbers per week

[hot zephyr]

Maybe 5/7 a week?

Either way, sounds like a PITA for mods

[tawny garden]

Feedza

[sand umbra]

well yeah but that's Feedza

[hot zephyr]

Although tbf the seven or so repeat-suggestors will watch over them for you

It's neat how the handful of us have kinda formed a group

[proper grail]

Per day is easier to watch

[sand umbra]

also don't worry I will gladly yell at people for yelling too much about shit they wanna see changed

[proper grail]

You just see if they have x amount in posting

[tawny garden]

And I think having a per day is still better

[hollow shell]

Indeed

[hot zephyr]

Solstice, cursed, thomas, IHS, philo, feedzuh, and I

Am I missing anyone?

[tawny garden]

Rover

[hot zephyr]

I'm talking about the ones without god powers

[hollow shell]

Well I'm here but I don't suggest

[tawny garden]

Ah

[hot zephyr]

The plebians

[hollow shell]

not often at least

[sand umbra]

listen I have like no other reason to be here
I have nothing to flex in othermod and like all of the other channels are completely irrelevant to me

that and I barely write suggs anymore

[tawny garden]

Neither do I, Rover

[sand umbra]

I just sort of yell at people about having bad suggs or suggs that I think could be better

[hot zephyr]

The powerful ones can just send suggestions to dev

[sand umbra]

I don't even do that I just
barely do anything

[proper grail]

We're the ones who get suggestions passed mainly

[sturdy geyser]

I occasionally grace the channel with my presence

[hot zephyr]

We are.... The Suggestors

[hollow shell]

Yeah the dev server has its own dev suggestion channel

made recently, earlier this year

to help devs be more organized with, stuff

[hot zephyr]

And now suggdisc has become our club

[whole sedge]

i just kind of am always watching

[hot zephyr]

We're all friends in suggdisc (even though we throw shade at each other)

[hollow shell]

mhm
Ted Cruz hangs around with his many questionable dragon pfps

[hot zephyr]

ah Duke

[sturdy geyser]

😳

[proper grail]

I hang around with my single questionable dragon pfp

[sand umbra]

I hang around with my inability to shut up about things I don't like

[frail mantle]

i occasionally exist to pretend i'm funny

[hollow shell]

Ah yes Providab
Big SIS sugg'er back in the day

One of the few to eventually succeed

[cobalt pewter]

Plantation Staff 😳

[hot zephyr]

Bring back SIS

Do it