Quick Calamity request:
The Vampiric Talisman is WAY too good. I can easily get my critical strike chance over 100% and basically heal 6 health for almost every hit.
It's like the Vampire Knives all over again in 1.2, the name is quite fitting lmao
#suggestions-discussion
ashen warren
daring imp
i'm glad that for once at least people agree with my crazy ideas
i should beat calamity death mode as rogue as soon as possible
but the stars deal too much damage and it's very hard to dodge, and in death mode there are no healing stars
they removed something really fitting and unique from the boss
since it's a very early bullet hell boss with many phases and a battle that lasts really long i like that it gives you a chance to heal during the battle
i think death mode should just decrease the number of healing stars
ashen warren
@ancient widget
tawny garden
why
sleek girder
i agree with the first part of your sugg, but imo the stars are okay. the point is to bypass defense and dr, and death is supposed to be difficult. @daring imp
also yeah whyd you ping fab
not to mention theyre removing adrenaline not being reset
dapper coral
can you not ping fabsol out of the blue please
heady storm
@dapper coral they were just late for this. https://discordapp.com/channels/225030931008847874/465195069406707722/785304852448149525
(Which even then wouldn't be worthy of a direct ping.)
dapper coral
i assumed as much
that's what suggestions are for though
you really never need to ping fabsol lmao
dapper coral
shut
tawny garden
ashen warren
Lmao I did that on purpose because I knew people would complain about it
Nobody even acknowledged my recommendation, even though the Vampiric Talisman is a broken accessory
Big Discord servers bad
whole sedge
maybe instead of 'big discord bad' you should probably just try and use the channels for what they're made for like demik said 
crystal iron
^
Also, while this server is big the Sugg disc channel isn't necessarily too flooded or active so someone would've seen, and yet again, Sugg posting is a thing
serene fox
@dapper coral
dapper coral
muted
ashen warren
brtuh moment
crystal iron
Oh no u again
cobalt pewter
@daring imp your sugg has a rather weird structure
You start with Holy Inferno being based off time the player being away from prov, then suddenly you go to dmode stars not having green stars
Just focus on the point you presented on the title
Ditch everything from "and please nerf the stars..." onwards
And just focus on the Holy Inferno
Yes, Holy Inferno being based off time you're away from her is interesting, but no, dmode stars is fine
crude geode
dmode is meant to be a ridiculous challenge
earnest cape
as the name suggesst
also didn't fab make it so the stars are going to reset your adrenaline?
dapper coral
i believe so
earnest cape
153
153 - Providence anti-heal stars remove adrenaline on hit. - Done
still the next update so hmm
if you're having trouble dodging the cocoon stars I recommend moving actively since she's going to shoots stars directly at you if you're standing still @daring imp
cobalt pewter
Again, seems like the sugg wanted to talk about Holy Inferno effect first
But got sidetracked in the same sugg
earnest cape
huh
daring imp
if you're having trouble dodging the cocoon stars I recommend moving actively si...
mmmm
daring imp
<@274324049868357632> your sugg has a rather weird structure
guess i should include it in the title too
cobalt pewter
Nono
Separate it altogether
Just sugg about dmode stars later
Right now, focus on Holy Inferno
daring imp
ok
please tell me there's nothing wrong with this one. can't you guys see the text avalanche it was?
earnest cape
if you added profaned guardians in the star sugg I would 100% agree 
daring imp
yeah she don't even change to the cocoon phase like 10 times per battle but also spawns the guardians in the end
how tf is this the first non servant post moonlord boss
earnest cape
guardian phase while cocoon star is always ech
earnest cape
yharon before provi
crude geode
Maybe uh don’t play Deathmode if you don’t like the difficulty
earnest cape
Maybe uh don’t play Deathmode if you don’t like the difficulty
^
\
daring imp
until providence wasn't much deal
earnest cape
provi has always been suffering
crude geode
Nah
daring imp
gun
earnest cape
imagine going for healing stars
crude geode
Deathmode is meant to be a difficult mode. It’s why DoG’s head one shots you. If you don’t like the difficulty it presents, turn it off.
daring imp
i like how it gives us a chance to survive one of the worst bullet hells from her
fits perfecly with the boss and makes an unfair boss that early mercyful
serene fox
unfair?
daring imp
yeah that's a joke
earnest cape
the provi boss is completely fair, just a massive difficulty spike
daring imp
because bullet hell
yes
how tf was that supposed to be the first non servant post moonlord boss
earnest cape
dragonfolly
daring imp
dragonfolly is yharon's servant
earnest cape
no?
crude geode
bruh
daring imp
kinda
crude geode
the fuck you on
daring imp
you got my point
crude geode
Dragonfolly is an actual boss, idk what you’re on.
earnest cape
love that boss
daring imp
yeah but it's like a earlier boss that's related to a major post moonlord boss
crude geode
daring imp
guess i should use the term non major
earnest cape
crude geode
so is clonelamitas a servant of supreme calamitas?
heady storm
Okay what now.
earnest cape
bruh
daring imp
wait this is getting off topic isn't it?
earnest cape
i honestly don't know
crude geode
This person is complaining about Deathmode being hard.
dapper coral
a little, yeah
daring imp
only providence
dapper coral
is this about the stars
heady storm
Yeah this can cease by now.
earnest cape
it is the stars yeh
daring imp
yes no healing stars on death mode i hate it
dapper coral
okay then don't play deathmode
this is like, one of the more minor changes
crude geode
Wow the game is more difficult on death mode? Shocking.
daring imp
nightmare fuel should be post DoG only xD
earnest cape
it.... is?
daring imp
forgive me for this pun
dapper coral
if you can't handle the negative healing element then go to rev
crude geode
^
daring imp
my posts have the explanations
earnest cape
is it just me or is rev provi harder than death provi
serene fox
just you
daring imp
death makes the stars faster too?!
earnest cape
yes
daring imp
that explains more
crude geode
Your post is mainly complaining about provi being a difficulty spike. Which, while she may be, doesn’t mean she deserves a nerf.
daring imp
one at a time please calamity team
dapper coral
But death mode removes all the healing stars, so good luck dodging all of these stars
...this is literally the point
crude geode
If you don’t like the difficulty of Deathmode, play rev.
proper grail
Bruh two of basically the same suggestion
earnest cape
yeah if you can't handle death mode honestly go back to rev cause the only thing death mode gives is a challenge(and levi pet)
daring imp
until providence wasn't that advancement of difficulty
proper grail
Providence is hard for a reason
crude geode
^
daring imp
to go for servants and polter first?
proper grail
No, she's a bullet hell boss
crude geode
yes, deal with it
proper grail
If you can't stand the heat, get out of Death
crude geode
^
dapper coral
this is going in circles
daring imp
until providence death was a joke
proper grail
Exclaim it
crude geode
“Boss too hard, pls nerf”
dapper coral
i already did, solstice
daring imp
it's crossed out so i guess it shouldn't be considered
crude geode
Thank you Demik
daring imp
ok providence is post polter
cobalt pewter
mmm?
daring imp
death providence at least
dapper coral
aight bro you need to stop
daring imp
i did right now guess i have nothing else to say
crude geode
Stop preaching to the choir, please and ty
proper grail
Dragonfolly is the first Post-ML boss, end of discussion, Providence is much later
Done
dapper coral
you've been told the issue with your sugg already
if you can't handle deathmode, go to rev
crude geode
been a while since we had a “boss hard pls nerf” sugg
proper grail
Sigh not long enough
foggy plover
you guys don't have to antagonize them, it doesn't help at all.
daring imp
ok so the exclamation mark means i should remove the post?
proper grail
Sure thing 
crude geode
No it just means the post won’t go through to voting
daring imp
i just thought provi nerfs were always welcome
dapper coral
it means you should either a) remove it if you can't fix it, or b) fix it based on what you've been told already
crude geode
dunno who told you that
dapper coral
if you don't fix it within 24 hours the post will be auto-deleted
daring imp
ok imma try providence again after servants at least, just like i did to my rev summoner run, then i will come back
but the other post i made about providence is fine i'm pretty sure at least 90% of the calamity community agrees
it's not complaining about death mode just the fact that suddenly our screen turns black and we get a hell of a DoT during the battle, being on death mode or not
cobalt pewter
As the self-proclaimed Stealth Rogue GOD, I approve of the sugg
crude geode
ty
cobalt pewter
earnest cape
heady storm
More rogue stealth inquires.
crude geode
Trinket of Chi always seemed to be good for stealth deep sea dumbbell go brrr so I think branding it as a stealth accessory would be nice and make it possibly see more use
cobalt pewter
Shadow buff (from Shadow potions) already grants rogue projectiles a bonus projectile on stealth strikes methinks
Tho iirc it's post skelly
crude geode
It's perfect just the way it is
completely unused by 90% of the playerbase?
cobalt pewter
Actually technically earlier
crude geode
because nobody wants to stop attacking enemies besides stealth rogue?
whole sedge
i have literally not once used trinket of chi and i forgot it existed until this sugg
earnest cape
imagine finding the shrine to begin with
crude geode
I've found the shrine more than I would like tbfh.
earnest cape
summer sentinel
The fact you have to stand/still and wait before benefitting from trinket of chi does make it quite rogue-esque
earnest cape
it indeed does
cobalt pewter
So yeah, it does fit Stealth rogue a bit
earnest cape
finally giving stealth rogue some love
cobalt pewter
The DR while standing still can be beneficial, further rewarding the player for taking advantage of standing still in tight fights
crude geode
~~I just realized that I have three suggestions in posting rn 
~~
cobalt pewter
ebic
unreal viper
shhhh
earnest cape
same as feedza
unreal viper
I had way more during my rework phase
crude geode
this is true
crude geode
I'm just distancing myself
by calling yourself sugg god when there's only one suggestion god?
cobalt pewter
Rjkdkfoc
golden narwhal
Suggbot is alive/dead again 
heady storm
When manual approval doesn't work, you must take extra steps.
golden narwhal
real steppe
Oh boy
golden narwhal
Ty, epic moderator man
real steppe
That DoG sentinel thing looks intense
Like.. imagine dodging CV's circles while getting charged by SW
While also getting charged by Signus
golden narwhal
They wouldn't have their normal AI (hope that's obvious or can be seen)
heady storm
Custard pudding good.
cobalt pewter
Indeed
mint orchid
@golden narwhal I think they are making them harder
golden narwhal
This in vc?
earnest cape
Like.. imagine dodging CV's circles while getting charged by SW
you don't have to imagine that when you do low%
cedar plume
Ok crazy idea go brrrrrr (Not sure if i want to officially submit this as a suggestion)
Yo legit we need a way to make peace with Yhaorn like for example:
When he gets to like 1% or lower HP you can make an offering with like an item? to try and compromise with him.
(Since you are obviously going to beat him)
(He cannot be fought if you / a person on the server has the buff)
(Less soul fragments but perhaps an alternative way to gather them by perhaps a system similar to the tax collector but instead of an NPC its like a button in the inventory)
(Maybe even you can purchase his equipment from him?) (Idk about that one)...
(If it succeeds, you gain a special permanent buff that doesn't remove that spawns a invulnerable but weaker Yharon summon to fight for you.
(Have a craft able item to betray him that removes it and allows you to fight him again.
fuck it
golden narwhal
This needs reasoning (or more if there is that I'm missing)
golden narwhal
As in, why should this be a thing
cedar plume
Yharon's master is a depressed shithead who dosen't care for him
frail mantle
the mod isn't built around the lore
you should explain why this should be in the game from a gameplay perspective, not a lore perspective
cedar plume
Ah i see
Well my idea was like
good bit stronger and larger in physical size than the Kindle Staff
(Not on level of the 3000 damage thing i forgot the name)
But like
600-800 damage
and it takes all your summon slots
frail mantle
no not the NPC's stats
cedar plume
more slots = more strength
frail mantle
or whatever it is
cedar plume
summon theoretically
frail mantle
explain why this would contribute to the mod, outside of it fitting with the lore
cedar plume
It would be a unique alternative to
"ooga booga" must kill everything
Also it would be an alternative to that weird orb looking thingy
the one that requires 10 slots
It would be an alternative to this
cobalt pewter
.... what's the point aside from "it'd be cool and shit bruhhhh"?
cedar plume
Basically (Not that strong with only 1 slot) But an alternative to the Cosmic for Summoners
Hey it would technically complete the trilogy of the Son and Akato
cobalt pewter
Those aren't official
whole sedge
I mean this could still be better if you just suggested something to make kindle staff more viable over CI
cobalt pewter
They're there because the donors asked for them
cedar plume
The Kindle Staff dosen't even look like Yharon
its main gimic is the buffs you get for having one
cobalt pewter
Also summoners generally have a lower amount of minions later in the game, because not only making minions are pain in the arse, summoners get the privilege of using post dog weapon vs scal
They're generally strong enough, and slightly lower weapon variety is to be expected tbh
cobalt pewter
Rogue having literally no options vs scal is quite unacceptable though
cedar plume
simple solution
A new summoner weapon with higher damage and a bigger model
that is actually yharon
but only 1 can be spawned
frail mantle
e
cobalt pewter
a
cedar plume
sports
whole sedge
Why would this be necessary though
frail mantle
honestly i'd prefer less items like Immaterializer, Endo Cooper etc.
whole sedge
That's not a real reason though
cedar plume
just basically a copy paste
whole sedge
As much as I adore yharon that's not really necessary at all as well CI exists
cobalt pewter
Us Yharon fanboys would love it
Not a valid reason
cedar plume
the kindle staff but instead of taking 4 and being able to summon multiple
frail mantle
summoner's main thing is swarming your enemies with lots of small fuckers, but giant minions like Cooper and the Immaterializer go directly against this
cedar plume
just add a thing thats like
a bigger yharon son
with Yharon's model
It strengthens with more slots
cobalt pewter
summoner's main thing is swarming your enemies with lots of small fuckers, but g...
Honestly? I wanna see a rework for them to use minions like others, but it increases in size instead of amount
cedar plume
So yea
cobalt pewter
I'm generally against them needing a set of minion slots and only one can spawn
cedar plume
It wouldn't be that hard just
1 Yharon that actually has his model
and not the son
frail mantle
could suggest that for Immaterializer
cobalt pewter
It wouldn't be that hard just
Devs have bigger priorities than adding that tbh
frail mantle
cooper is off limits cause haha dedicated, unless you get cooper's permission
cobalt pewter
Just ping sir cooper
But I'll probably sugg for these kinda minions in general
... is immat the only one doing this?
cedar plume
I get that it would not be high priority
But atleast when or if they get around to something like it
It shouldn't take long
frail mantle
immat, cooper, funny hat kid reference
frail mantle
i think that's it besides the Sun Spirit sidegrades/upgrades
cedar plume
Ok but like
Understandable that the devs would not put it infront of what they wanna work on
but like
it would be a simple idea
just saying
cobalt pewter
Having the overhead minions pre Sirius take all of my minion slots sounds sex
whole sedge
I mean really all of this just seems less of 'make Immat not as dominating' and more of just 'it'd be funny haha cool' which is a not good thing to have a reason still
cobalt pewter
cobalt pewter
I mean really all of this just seems less of 'make Immat not as dominating' and ...
Yes, "it's cool bro" is never a valid reason, and usually specific weapon suggs like that is kinda a no
Unless the general idea is to expand on post-Yharon summon weapons, in that it might be considerable
cedar plume
The general idea is
an early game version of Cosmic_Immaterializer
But instead of 10 slots
its just
it scales with however many you have
i dont care if it dosen't have any attacks besides melee I just want that model
but like friendly
xD
or hell just make it take up 6 slots but only 1 is spawnable
cobalt pewter
That's what I'm trying to suggest atm
cobalt pewter
Making immat use minion slots normally, but with more minions increasing size as well as damage
frail mantle
Frost Blossom, Sun Spirit, Cinder Blossom, Sun God, 
, sorta burnt thanos marshmallow summon, sorta Infected Remote, sorta Dragonblood Disgorger, sorta Sirius, sorta Saros Possession, Endogenesis and Temporal Umbrella
that's every single minion summon weapon in Calamity
cobalt pewter
Infected Remote uses all minion slots as damage, no? But the appearance is def not affected
frail mantle
yes
frail mantle
that's why i said only sorta
cedar plume
no need to change
frail mantle
the ones with sorta scale their damage with amount of minion slots used
cobalt pewter
I swear I'm dumb, but "burnt thanos marshmallow" is the astrageldon minion?
cobalt pewter
cedar plume
xD
earnest cape
I see a repost I hope it gets accepted this time
earnest cape
reading the title I'm already 
heady storm
Whenever Amber is available, of course.
cobalt pewter
earnest cape
Amber, the engineer
cobalt pewter
@heady storm mind looking at the last sugg? 
tawny garden
The fuck
heady storm
@alpine trench yeah this is just too specific.
tawny garden
robust lava
A tad... specific. A tad.. future content
cobalt pewter
Indeed
tawny garden
This breaks 4 don'ts
heady storm
It points everywhere it shouldn't be.
alpine trench
was the idea atleast ok?
tawny garden
(not really, no)
alpine trench
why
cobalt pewter
Despite Jungle Dragon, Yharon and Supreme Calamitas using non-standard immunity frames cooldownSlots, therefore making them ignore almost all normal i-frame extensions, the i-frames granted by the Celestial Tracers will still extend the player's immune time when hit by those bosses' projectiles.
From Celestial Tracers page. Wouldn't Final Dawn's yeet be able to be given this special i-frames method?
cobalt pewter
@heady storm bot still down and my 2 suggs might need yeeting
heady storm
I'm supposed to be sleeping. 
sharp prism
then sleep
cobalt pewter
smh slep then
heady storm
But I cannot.
earnest cape
the feeling when
hot zephyr
@cobalt pewter Wants to steal your bag cheese 
cobalt pewter
frail mantle
hardy dock
This is literally the most common suggestion on the server
earnest cape
ah yes, another one of the Yoten ones
hot zephyr
C'mon Philo get with the times
tawny garden
I'm trying man
hot zephyr
Try harder >:(
cobalt pewter
Ye you can edit it
novel trellis
hey, uh. wanted to put a suggestion of maybe pet sentinels? idk how it would work, just a thought
cobalt pewter
Calamity's Vanities might have those kinda pets
novel trellis
i checked, but they don't, sadly.
robust lava
They do
cobalt pewter
You might need to ask them instead of here, unless you have a totally solid reason why they should include sentinel pets
novel trellis
alright. thanks
robust lava
Calamity Vanities does have a sentinels pet though, so I'm not sure where you were looking?
novel trellis
it does? i never saw it.
hardy dock
I meant theyre cute...
hardy dock
Storm Weaver would make an adorable pet
novel trellis
agreed
cobalt pewter
Unless there's a real good reason, being adorable in pet form might not be good enough to be suggested
hardy dock
Indeed
novel trellis
what if they made a reskin of the mechworm lol
hardy dock
Wait whats the calamity art server
cobalt pewter
Again, not sure what the reason is
novel trellis
just a thought
cobalt pewter
Wait whats the calamity art server
Name is self explanatory
hardy dock
Is it public?
hardy dock
Cool
cobalt pewter
The issue with Ocean lore not being able to be dropped earlier is that there are no phm bosses that is primarily ocean themed
hardy dock
Which is why I suggested ???
crude geode
~~desert scourge, dummy 
~~
cobalt pewter
Corruption / Crimson lores to disable cyst spawn work because there are eow/brain before hm/perf
hardy dock
~~desert scourge, dummy <:HDfailure:482263678150770729> ~~
I mean...
crude geode
I’m not wrong but I’m not right either
tawny garden
if you consider the desert to be an ocean, yes
cobalt pewter
Which is why I suggested ???
Basically lores can only spawn from bosses
At least from the norm
Unless biome lores can be crafted purely with biome materials and victory shards
...
That's a good sugg idea
hardy dock
Actually it is
novel trellis
huh. could be useful.
hardy dock
cobalt pewter
Most of them don't do anything anyways
crude geode
I mean we already have the trophy thing
hardy dock
I mean we already have the trophy thing
Literally nobody has ever done the trophy thing
cobalt pewter
The only biome lores that have function only disable certain entity spawns
crude geode
Literally nobody has ever done the trophy thing
because most people don’t have Lores glitch out and not drop.
novel trellis
i mean, disabling ??? spawns pre-hardmode would be sorta nice just in case
hardy dock
Trophies are just way too rare
Well shark fins for Megashark and Seafood
Which are HM
crude geode
Trophies are just way too rare
people farm for community, a 1% drop from an annoying boss, a 10% drop is fine
hardy dock
Does Leviathan even drop anything PHM?
tawny garden
yes
crude geode
Yes
hardy dock
Huh
tawny garden
everything that she drops in HM
crude geode
suggestions regarding non-linearity changes are a straight up don’t so don’t even try it
tawny garden
ever since Calamity 1.4.3 iirc
hardy dock
everything that she drops in HM
Imma just be that guy rq *she
red storm
novel trellis
honestly, beating leviathan and whatsherface pre-hardmode seems impossible
crude geode
People have done it
tawny garden
damnit bot
hardy dock
Ik Leviathan has prolly done it
novel trellis
huh.
hardy dock
He's done Aquatic Scourge at least
novel trellis
i mean i have issues killing plaugebringer goliath so idk what difficulty is
hardy dock
@cobalt pewter noice
crude geode
Frankly I think the suggestion is valid.
cobalt pewter
The ??? one? Yes, it's valid
cobalt pewter
I just don't see much reason for ??? to drop it if we're sticking by the usual rules of lore item
crude geode
Your one is the one I was specifically referring to.
I have problems with it, but they’re personal and a result of my realization that literally everything in calamity is craftable and you never have to kill anything
hardy dock
crude geode
such as every single weapon drop from a boss being nigh unusable like post Mecha bosses
Meanwhile the crafted weapons are like a billion times better.
hardy dock
~~such as every single weapon drop from a boss being nigh unusable like post Mec...
elaborate
cobalt pewter
cobalt pewter
Meanwhile the crafted weapons are like a billion times better.
Too bad this is the case yes
hardy dock
I really like Entropy's Vigil
And Leviatitan was the first Ranged weapon I really vibed with
crude geode
I can’t think of literally every single weapon in existence but
Moon Lord drops compared to the things you craft with Luminite is a big one
hardy dock
True
crude geode
Any post golem boss drop (besides maybe razor blade typhoon and a few others)
hardy dock
I mean
crude geode
DoG’s drops vs the shit you craft with cosmilite
hardy dock
I love the eradicator and the exelesus but yeah
crude geode
Yharhar’s drops vs Auric Tesla Crafts
hardy dock
Well those are two different tiers
crude geode
it shouldn’t be, you literally just killed the fucker
novel trellis
calamitas' drops vs ashes of calamity things aren't too terrible
novel trellis
as a summoner main, i love the entropy's vigil.
crude geode
Frankly there’s just a lot of instances, especially post golem, where any weapon drops are immediately outclassed by what you craft
novel trellis
yeah.
hardy dock
~~it shouldn’t be, you literally just killed the fucker~~
There are no new weapons from Yharon aside from the op magic weapons in Phase 2
cobalt pewter
Yharhar’s drops vs Auric Tesla Crafts
Yharon's drops are technically post Darksun tier due to the fact that they start to drop on the first major phase
crude geode
I still find that dumb
Fine. Yharhar’s drops vs Darksun Weapons.
cobalt pewter
~~I still find that dumb~~
Fine. Yharhar’s drops vs Darksun Weapons.
Feel free to sugg that ig
hardy dock
I actually prefer Stream Gouge over Nadir
novel trellis
plaguebringer goliath's drops are balanced vs infected plate crafts
hardy dock
Oddly
novel trellis
i think
hardy dock
plaguebringer goliath's drops are balanced vs infected plate crafts
I love Gauss Rifle
So meaty
crude geode
plaguebringer goliath's drops are balanced vs infected plate crafts
They fall into the same category as “Post Golem Boss Drops vs Any Lunar Pillar Weapon”
novel trellis
ah
crude geode
hardy dock
I think Deus is unbalanced
novel trellis
i mean, if you can kill the damned thing
hardy dock
Waaaaaay too much health
hardy dock
i mean, if you can ***kill the damned thing***
what class?
hardy dock
i main summoner and usually play solo.
I like the Entropy's Vigil for that fight
novel trellis
i am starting to go down the ranger route tho
hardy dock
i am starting to go down the ranger route tho
Use Plague Reaper armor and the Scoria Gun
crude geode
Entropy’s vigil for Deus? You on crack?
hardy dock
<:bruh:644332300418678785> Entropy’s vigil for Deus? You on crack?
No on Goliath
Dragon on deus
Vigil is busted
crude geode
Vigil is no longer busted tbfh
novel trellis
deus is a fun fight
crude geode
Not as much as it was.
hardy dock
It was buffed in Rust and Dust
novel trellis
better than aureus.
crude geode
and rust and dust was like 4 updates ago
hardy dock
~~and rust and dust was like 4 updates ago~~
4 SMALL updates ago
crude geode
You can go to general chat unless you want to actually make a suggestion.
crude geode
It’s understandable, especially in this chat
hardy dock
I think that Phase 2 Deus should only have 150k max life each
crude geode
I don’t think it really does, considering you only have to kill one of the worms.
novel trellis
eh. i think its balanced
its supposed to give you a challenge before allowing you to mine astral ore
crude geode
^
Knowing the right weapon for your class also helps a lot
hardy dock
Astral Ore isn't even that good
novel trellis
sure it is
crude geode
that’s more a problem with astral ore
hardy dock
But whatever
novel trellis
its good for mining and stuff like that
hardy dock
A hugely tough boss for minimal reward isn't good balance tbh
cobalt pewter
True melee weapons from Astral Bar are pretty good
crude geode
Astral Ore just needs to be way more interesting tbfh
novel trellis
at least its not aureus' reward
cobalt pewter
Astral Blade is commonly praised for its perk that predates 1.4 Keybrand
But either way
hardy dock
at least its not aureus' reward
I mean that's true
cobalt pewter
Astral armor needs something going on
hardy dock
The Astral bosses are just way overtuned
cobalt pewter
It's just a mishmash of effects
crude geode
It’s teased for all of hardmode, but then you get it and it’s used for minimal things.
novel trellis
like, one or two items that are useful
crude geode
oh boy
crude geode
Nope.
novel trellis
oh ok
crude geode
Ravager to me is a waste of a boss fight that doesn’t deserve time or energy, unless it’s regarding fixing his theming, drops, and place in progression.
novel trellis
eh, i s'pose
crude geode
What’s Ravager’s theme? Blood and flesh? Sure would be a shame if there was an entire biome and boss fight in vanilla dedicated to that
novel trellis
personally, i think its fine, just easy to cheese
crude geode
He’s completely forgettable to me, and the only reason I think people actually give a shit about him is CotBG
novel trellis
yeah, i suppose.
i find him better to use to farm bloodstone with though
since brimstone is a pain
hardy dock
Ravager is super unbalanced
crude geode
says a lot when a boss is memorable for farming
cobalt pewter
CotBG isn't even good
cobalt pewter
The best thing it has going for it is heal bonus and +hp
Or things but whatevs
The Flesh Totem effect is useless when you have, idk, aegis dashing?
novel trellis
hammers shred everything man
tawny garden
says a lot when a boss is memorable for farming <:taxevasion:611637175381000193>
controversial opinion: none of the bosses are memorable
crude geode
That’s a highly controversial opinion.
hardy dock
controversial opinion: none of the bosses are memorable
oh no this guy has a different opinion from me
Time to bully him
tawny garden
crude geode
Pretty much
hardy dock
crude geode
Frankly I don’t actually see this suggestion actually making astral armor see use, but it’s fine enough to me.
novel trellis
stellar contempt shreds storm weaver, fallen paladin's hammer shreds ravager, the hammers are good at killing things
hardy dock
Frankly I don’t actually see this suggestion actually making astral armor see us...
It would at least help, if nothing else
Astral Armor has serious fundamental flaws
crude geode
CotBG isn't even good
mfw I take 660 damage from Yharon for messing up a single bonk
novel trellis
i say make underground astral more useful.
crude geode
that’s coming
hardy dock
i say make underground astral more useful.
That's super vague
novel trellis
its pointless to go down there exept for the hive staff
crude geode
not really
hardy dock
The Summoner accessory
hardy dock
Plus enemies drop more stardust iirc
zenith hazel
there are plans to expand underground astral
crude geode
^
zenith hazel
but it's not our priority rn
hardy dock
Or at least its easier to get
zenith hazel
...that's the whole point of the expansion
crude geode
^^
crude geode
there are plans to expand underground astral
^
novel trellis
im not really near the pulse/
hardy dock
My suggestion is to make christmas hats required
crude geode
No
novel trellis
i agree
crude geode
<:taxevasion:611637175381000193>
If I mess up one time, I’d rather take 40% of my health bar away instead of 90%
novel trellis
can we use the stellar cannon in a crafting recipe
hardy dock
Have you ever noticed that every Auric melee weapon is a sword
crude geode
No, because that’s not true
hardy dock
Oh wait
cobalt pewter
I refuse to recognize AotC as a sword proper
crude geode
Melee literally has the most auric weapons what are you on about atom
hardy dock
Well it's a big majority at least
crude geode
why does melee need more, it’s already over represented as shit
zenith hazel
that's a bold assumption
novel trellis
more summon weapons maybe? idk there's not that much variety
crude geode
~~I refuse to recognize AotC as a sword proper~~
I refuse to recognize AoTC’s assumption
hardy dock
Has anyone ever used the Ataraxia
swift wharf
all melee auric weapons are good
swift wharf
and phaseslayer if you speeeen
crystal iron
I used all melee auric weapons
zenith hazel
it's still really good regardless
swift wharf
yeah
hardy dock
It's good
swift wharf
ataraxia is great
hardy dock
But super overshadowed
crude geode
Just because you don’t use a weapon doesn’t mean that others also do not
zenith hazel
by what?
novel trellis
honestly, exo and elemental summon weapons are bland
swift wharf
i saw some guy doing br with ataraxia
cobalt pewter
I refuse to call that abomination "melee" byech
crude geode
Prolly AotC idk
AoTC was a mistake
swift wharf
ark is wack ngl
zenith hazel
if you're telling me ark is betting at killing sepulcher hearts than ata then you need to get your eyes checked
crude geode
Doesn’t mean people won’t use the shit out of the funny homing cursor projectile weapon
cobalt pewter
Biome Blade line needs a true melee effect that corresponds to biomes tbh
Why does this cool thing only happen on projectiles
Like
Bruh
crude geode
Fab likes Melee™️
novel trellis
i use t r e e s t a f f since i can't kill scal as a solo summoner
cobalt pewter
I remember Thomas suggested about Biome Blade thing a while back
crude geode
You could prolly repost
swift wharf
biome blade is also wack it's just
swift wharf
the upgrades just increase the debuffs
crystal iron
Ye but ngl imo biome blade gets quickly outclassed
And biome blade series in general
crude geode
Ye but ngl imo biome blade gets quickly outclassed
You could say this about every weapon
novel trellis
and then you wait until you can kill bird man to use it again
crude geode
basically
crystal iron
You could say this about every weapon
Ik but we're talking about biome blade soo
cobalt pewter
Imagine true melee with true biome blade in jungle creates plague bees
Jfkfkfkfko
That's plague keeper but ok
Uhhh
cobalt pewter
omw to dominate posting yet again with 3 suggs
True Biome Blade doesn't even do anything unique in the Abyss despite it using post calclone abyss mats
:echde
crude geode
I think we’re getting off track of AoTC being a melee weapon the result of some Melee™️ main ripping a staff out of a mage’s hands and slapping it on their sword
Biome Blade being True Strike oriented would be nice
novel trellis
i wish spawn rates in the abyss went down the lower you go
crude geode
Abyss is fine in my book. Lots of content, tools to support you in exploration, and reasons to go there.
novel trellis
then again i never go past layer 2 since there's always wyrms in the way
crude geode
Yeah you might wanna tone that down
novel trellis
ok, my look on it is that it doesn't make sense for so many things to live that deep. there's barely any food, its dark, and the pressure is immense. therefore, spawn rates should be lower. keep the reaper shark and squids down there to guard the terminus, but otherwise have spawn rates lowered. but thats just my two cents on it
crude geode
Every sword in calamity is a beam sword
crude geode
ok, my look on it is that it doesn't make sense for so many things to live that ...
This is also a universe where unicorns exist, as well as giant eyeballs.
cobalt pewter
I'll see what a mod can say about that last sugg specifically
crude geode
don’t drag subnautica into this.
cobalt pewter
ok, my look on it is that it doesn't make sense for so many things to live that ...
Deep sea creatures exist.
novel trellis
This is also a universe where unicorns exist, as well as giant eyeballs.
its just a thought man
i just think that because the abyss is the deepest water biome in the world, that there would be less living there, y'know?
crude geode
You said “it doesn’t make sense”, when Duke Fishron exists, as well as living slimes and pixies. Also a giant floating brain. How is this the thing that doesn’t make sense?
Just let there be creatures there.
crude geode
and I was giving feedback. process of the channel.
novel trellis
makes sense
i hate to rag on my favorite biome more, but can post aureus drops do more? specifically stellar cannon and astral scythe
they're basically useless as-is
crude geode
get some relevant kill times compared to other weapons of their tier and you can make a suggestion about it
crude geode
also make sure you list what your setup is in terms of gear
novel trellis
okie dokie
cobalt pewter
No need to sugg
If you're trying to sugg balance, try asking a tester directly about those weapons
novel trellis
oh, alright
crude geode
Oh yeah I forgot we just ask testers now 
cobalt pewter
Not a don't iirc
tawny garden
the doc just needs to state
cobalt pewter
The thing about suggesting balance was on another section
tawny garden
"it's preferable to contact testers"
novel trellis
i s'pose it is kinda their job, huh
cobalt pewter
It's on "Bad Suggestion Practices"
crude geode
@radiant meadow Can you update the sugg doc’s bad practices around balance suggestions (or have someone do it) to say for weapon balancing, it’s preferable to contact testers over doing it yourself?
radiant meadow
@quiet abyss you have perms, I don't
quiet abyss
Hmm? Alright
crude geode
Ty 
Also @cobalt pewter your sugg looks good to me besides being a bit aggressive in wording. That’s all, imma go pass the fuck out now
cobalt pewter
lmao night
cobalt pewter
Sure, maybe in #calamity-mod-talk
novel trellis
ok cool, thanks man
dapper blaze
@cobalt pewter self-proclaimed title?
dapper blaze
damn!
dapper blaze
double damn!
tawny garden
Rover is and has always been the Suggestion God
novel trellis
yeah, and i'm a summoner god.
unreal viper
I'm the armor guy
daring imp
summoner best class
novel trellis
yes
tawny garden
based opinion
novel trellis
i main summoner
tawny garden
explosives best class
novel trellis
demoman tf2
tawny garden
wispy river
im 2 suggestion short of 200
wispy river
i meant 2 votes off
sleek girder
i have one thats like 7
mortal wadi
are suggestions ever ignored
dapper coral
if suggestions make it to dev, they are voted on
wispy river
to dev?
tawny garden
the dev server
dapper coral
if they don't get a 👍 (approval) or 🚫 (rejection) then it's assumed that there was a stalemate/no particular interest
wispy river
ok is there a limit on how long it takes to get 200 votes?
dapper coral
no
not a hard one, anyways
but keep in mind that after 4ish days, it gets lost because no one looks back that far
tawny garden
after 7ish days*
wispy river
so i posted mine a couple days ago and its 2 votes away
like 4 days
so if it getse 2 more votes now what will happen
?
wispy river
what is it?
I feel like leviathan as a optional boss like it feels like theres no reason to fight it
at the stage of the game
darnit now im 1 vote away
hot zephyr
pokes shrine sugg C'mon, do something
wispy river
theres so many bosses around the same stage of plantera
zenith hazel
and?
wispy river
alright exactly 200 votes lol
zenith hazel
that’s cool but you really didn’t need to narrate all that
wispy river
yeah your right
tawny garden
@silk echo the speed of biome spread will never be changed
because it's hardcoded, and it's highly painful to change
whole sedge
I mean it still has potential as you could change it into something along the lines of just adding more to the world evils but spread is kind of a pain to mess with
tawny garden
somehow changing the speed of biome spread isn't a don't 
although it's mentioned in "frequently suggested suggestions"
tawny garden
no
silk echo
Ill change it to else
tawny garden
they are not
unreal viper
People treat them as if they are tho.
sturdy geyser
what are FSS?
zenith hazel
reworking eclipse is going to be a thing at one point
unreal viper
Frequent suggs
zenith hazel
or at least, making it not just funny stat bloat memes
wispy river
frequently suggested suggestions
wicked needle
does my suggestion about solar eclipses fit in with all the rules? Let me know if i can improve it
silk echo
Is what I put a better suggestion
Because I do honestly think that Providence would have some effect on world evils after her death
I mean I myself consider her a second wall of flesh, basically a gateway to a lot more in a world
cold cosmos
I kind of agree
Only, you know, not a wall and not made of flesh
I still think Yharons lore should be reworked
silk echo
And I mean near the end of the mod there is nothing really at all for crimson and corruption, meanwhile hallow just gets profaned enemies to spawn in
cold cosmos
Yeah
hot zephyr
@tranquil perch "Nobody uses the rev accs prehardmode" Laudanum and BoC lore go BRRRRRRR
Free RoD and super strong buffs phm? Sounds good to me
tranquil perch
every statement must have an exception
hot zephyr
HoD is also useful
Same w/ Stress Pills
Stress pills is actually really good if you like tanking
HoD is a really good earlygame damage increase
tranquil perch
ok so imma remove that part then
hot zephyr
Also re-tiering Draedon's Heart was both suggested and declined iirc
tranquil perch
pine star
maybe it will be completely reworked?
After all, it is a (soon to be)boss's LITERAL HEART
hot zephyr
Fab talked about it in a stream
pine star
Interesting
hot zephyr
It's going to get a pretty strong buff to better compete with same-tier accessories
pine star
Nice
hot zephyr
I forgot the exact change, but it's a MGR reference :p
pine star
Might as well be hanged for a sheep as for a lamb though
hot zephyr
Hm?
pine star
Like there's already so many MGR references
hot zephyr
Well, yeah
It's just flavor text
We've got a lot of BL2 references but nobody wants to remove Conclave Crossfire/Butcher etc
sharp prism
@everyone
tawny garden
hardy dock
Draedon's Heart is actually insanely good as is
whole sedge
I used it once when i didn't know that there were other better accessories really
glass sentinel
ikr
vague prairie
i'll delete that then
glass sentinel
vague prairie
thx! 🙂
zenith hazel
could’ve been worse
glass sentinel
i would have liked it
zenith hazel
but yea
dapper coral
shut
glass sentinel
summer sentinel
It wasn't that bad
sturdy geyser
what was it
summer sentinel
my first sugg was better though
glass sentinel
well...
demik's first one was to make ranged attacks go through blocks
sand shut him down tho
sturdy geyser
GOD
glass sentinel
sturdy geyser
epic idea
glass sentinel
its ok demik
summer sentinel
jungle grass seed buying? Pretty epic
glass sentinel
flower boots + flares
glass sentinel
pine star
hot zephyr
Brav is the new suggestion-bot
pine star
glass sentinel
he is a bot
sharp prism
Thats true
glass sentinel
lmao we feel that
summer sentinel
I think this suggestion is an ! because I don't see this happening for the music
glass sentinel
thats what i though
visual wigeon
I'm gonna check the doc
glass sentinel
it isnt in there
edgy pagoda
it's a resug condenced
summer sentinel
Can't ideally just recommend a specific music for a boss given the caliber of music that calamity has put the bar too
edgy pagoda
condensed