suggestions-discussion

[earnest cape]

or with anything that has free will in it lul

[summer sentinel]

I wouldn't be against anon sugg time tbh since there would be no bias that could potentially form them, but at the same time, not giving credibility to the author is...yeah

[wintry socket]

wait can i even put 2 photos on one message

[earnest cape]

double edge sword

[hot zephyr]

Also you could tell who's the author just from text patterns

[summer sentinel]

You can if they are links Agent 2

[cobalt pewter]

Or ig make the author only visible by mods and the like

[summer sentinel]

so just post them both, grab both their links and put them into 1 message to embed them both

[hot zephyr]

I do think there should be a ban on "wall of text" suggestions

[frail mantle]

eh

[hot zephyr]

Most of the time they're either too bloated or way too specific

[dapper coral]

anonymous suggs would be ideal but at the same time it would be very difficult to give feedback without pings, and considering the barely-functioning state of pisscord on a normal basis i don't wanna see how it handles anything extra

[frail mantle]

sometimes your suggestion needs a lot of explanation

[hot zephyr]

Examples?

[frail mantle]

if it has unnecessary information you can just ask the suggestor (suggestee?) to shorten it

[hot zephyr]

ViralMelon's sugg is a perfect example of textwall sugg

[glass sentinel]

@wintry socket wait have you added the photos? or am is my discord doing a strange

[earnest cape]

colorful chat

[earnest cape]

they haven't
\

[frail mantle]

which one is that

discord is peepissing and not showing names on the shit in voting

[fossil torrent]

anonymous suggestions wouldn't work or change anything

[glass sentinel]

oh

[hot zephyr]

It's in posting

[cobalt pewter]

#suggestions-posting message

[hot zephyr]

It'd change things, but it's not needed

[wintry socket]

not yet but almost done internet sucks

[glass sentinel]

ooo

fair enough

[frail mantle]

i'd say that one could do with some shortening

[wintry socket]

https://discord.com/channels/@me/620494190723465219/783603200581959690 im just testing can u see this?

[glass sentinel]

the specific stats can be deleted

imo

[earnest cape]

yeah I don't see what their point is or how they would change it

[frail mantle]

it doesn't really need to explain every Pumpkin Moon enemy and how they're piss easy with post-ML gear

[glass sentinel]

no

we cant

just copy the image links

and post them in the photo

with a description

[summer sentinel]

"wall of text" suggestions are not an issue as long as the wall of text is useful text

[hot zephyr]

It's just explaining current AI... which we already know about

[wintry socket]

e ill use ur image link instead

[hot zephyr]

It's rarely useful though

[dapper coral]

validity-wise, they're not an issue
but they do decrease the chances of your sugg being read all the way through

[glass sentinel]

google docs suggs

[cobalt pewter]

Same issue

[wintry socket]

#suggestions-discussion message bout this?

[cobalt pewter]

The average suggestion voter have the attention span of a teaspoon

[hot zephyr]

Like, 95% of the time, text walls either repeat their point multiple times or are borderline SIS-tier suggestions

[glass sentinel]

yes

we can see that

thats the image link

like i said

[frail mantle]

therefore we ask people who make text walls to shorten it

[earnest cape]

oh yeah this is big brain time

[summer sentinel]

that is true yeah, so I suppose it's better to just say:
write as much as you need to to convey your point, skipping fillers and bluff n fluff text

[hot zephyr]

I understand we can just ask em, but I internally when a textwall slips into voting

And then when the sugg author wonders why it's got low stars

[wintry socket]

i changed it :)

[glass sentinel]

👏

nice

[wintry socket]

the suggestion i putted

[earnest cape]

oof no embed

[glass sentinel]

you can say that the top/bottom is astral and bottom is not

[wintry socket]

i d k h o w

[dapper coral]

...actually did we not say that the AI wall was unnecessary already

[wintry socket]

i should put that lol

[dapper coral]

ping time ig

[cobalt pewter]

You can always resend the suggestion with images directly, iirc doing that would make the bot send images directly with the sugg

[hot zephyr]

Both of ViralMelons suggs were asked to be trimmed

[dapper coral]

@mighty knot for your first sugg you can remove the Please God from the title, and the bluecheck thing at the bottom
for your second sugg just get rid of the bigass AI wall, it's unnecessary

[earnest cape]

[wintry socket]

did i do the order right?

[hot zephyr]

tbh sugg posting and disc are my favorite channels

[glass sentinel]

yup

[dapper coral]

fun fact: i was one of those idiots who joined the server and immediately suggested something without knowing wtf was going on

[glass sentinel]

lets go find it

[golden narwhal]

same

[hot zephyr]

Demik, feel free to bluecheck my shrine sugg when it hits voting

[dapper coral]

and then got chewed out by Sand for it

[cobalt pewter]

Bruh?

[dapper coral]

u right

[earnest cape]

[cobalt pewter]

[hot zephyr]

My first sugg was a SIS

But they were allowed back then

[cobalt pewter]

My first sugg is just giving Betsy's Wings a perk

[hot zephyr]

[cobalt pewter]

hnnnng

[golden narwhal]

strange enough, my first sugg is still somewhat relevant

[heady storm]

My first suggestion was to give Gulper Eels a drop.

[hot zephyr]

Did they ever get one

[heady storm]

The vote stalemated once it got to Dev.

[hot zephyr]

[heady storm]

At least, that's what I can tell.

[glass sentinel]

#suggestions-discussion message

[cobalt pewter]

I think my Betsy wings one got approved, but nothing else until now

[heady storm]

Doesn't mean someone else can't try.

[glass sentinel]

FOUND IT

[hot zephyr]

RIP my Draedon teleporter sugg

[cobalt pewter]

[dapper coral]

crap

[cobalt pewter]

#suggestions-voting message

[earnest cape]

demik got completely destroyed

[cobalt pewter]

[heady storm]

https://discordapp.com/channels/225030931008847874/263382359397761025/726077549800587356

[cobalt pewter]

Wait they don't have reactions

[heady storm]

I was a red name back then.

[hot zephyr]

I can't believe how new most users are here

[cobalt pewter]

[heady storm]

If a vote in dev stalemates, no reaction is provided.

[cobalt pewter]

No like

Not even any other reactions

[hot zephyr]

Seems like we need another dev for a tiebreaker

[cobalt pewter]

There are none

[heady storm]

For what though?

My suggestion?

[glass sentinel]

#suggestions-voting message

holy

this sugg was technically implemented

[dapper coral]

i am future man

[glass sentinel]

no, im not trying to find demik's bad sugg

[cobalt pewter]

I'm pretty sure setting up a record in the server, first sugg at July 2020 (somewhere right after JE), and 143 more suggs as we speak

[dapper coral]

lmao it died instantly lorax

[heady storm]

Guess that can be flagged.

[cobalt pewter]

More than leon that's been here for years

[frail mantle]

[glass sentinel]

nuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu

lmao you flagged it

👏

[summer sentinel]

sad Demik, but there is always next time lol

[glass sentinel]

demik it payed off

[frail mantle]

all of my suggestions leading up to the SIS ban were solidified piss

[cobalt pewter]

b r u h

[hot zephyr]

How many suggs per week does that calculate up to, Feed

[frail mantle]

only a single one of them were ever implemented

[dapper coral]

if you really wanna know, it was to make more ranger weapons go through blocks or some stupid ass garbage like that

[tawny garden]

I can't relate to anyone, I pretty much didn't sugg anything

:boohoo:

[glass sentinel]

mhm i gathered as much

[cobalt pewter]

I think the betsy wings one was t July 15th, which would be the 2nd week

[glass sentinel]

from sand's chewing

[hot zephyr]

I tried multiple times to get rid of the Raider's Talisman's shitty gimmick but here we are two and a half years later

[cobalt pewter]

So imma assume all months leading to now have 4 weeks

[summer sentinel]

feedzuh has like at least 2000 suggestions

[hot zephyr]

2001*

[tawny garden]

[glass sentinel]

*2020

[summer sentinel]

all of which are implemented of course

[cobalt pewter]

About 8 suggs a week

[hot zephyr]

So many suggs you could make a mod out of it

Oh wait

[earnest cape]

[hot zephyr]

Feedzuh's final suggestion: Rename Calamity to "Nova's Edge"

[cobalt pewter]

[hot zephyr]

That was his goal all along

[cobalt pewter]

how dare you reveal my plans simpleton

[tawny garden]

I still remember Demik's Profaned Guardians sugg

[hot zephyr]

And once everything was implemented, ol Feedzuh sat and observed a sunset on a grateful server

[summer sentinel]

I’ve posted probably like a total of only 10 Suggs not even

[hot zephyr]

You need to pump those numbers up Lauren

[cobalt pewter]

[summer sentinel]

if the suggestion is small I kind of just go to dev though and see what happens

[hot zephyr]

Welcome to Calamity Nova's Edge Mod Discord

[tawny garden]

Totally not calamity related

We promise

[dapper coral]

unfortunately, so do i

[cobalt pewter]

Lauren has the privilege to just yeet her suggs to dev directly

[hot zephyr]

See what I mean?

[dapper coral]

nah she can't yet

doge could tho

[hot zephyr]

If you have a recognizable name 😎

[cobalt pewter]

Oh rip

[dapper coral]

because he is god tester

[hot zephyr]

wtf lauren baderator?

[dapper coral]

so he has access to dev sugg channels

[summer sentinel]

I can’t but I just bring it up and see what happens, not in dev sugg channels

[cobalt pewter]

[hot zephyr]

Don't worry Feedzuh, IHS, Thomas, you and I will form a Suggestor's Union and speak to the devs directly

[cobalt pewter]

At that point they have the funni baderator role, so it's beyond the name

[hot zephyr]

Some people? Apply for the good of the server. Some people? Apply for the title and the fame. The smartest people? Apply to get more stars on their suggestions

[cobalt pewter]

[summer sentinel]

consider suggestion things again if you may

[cobalt pewter]

[hot zephyr]

Of course, suggestions. That's why we're here

Would a tool to find shrines be broken?

[dapper coral]

kind of

although it would depend on what exactly it did

[proper grail]

Instant Luxor's Gift go brrr

[hollow sierra]

@hot zephyr just expand or shrink the chests instead

[hot zephyr]

Luxor's gift is already easy to find, though

W I D E C H E S T

Or even better

S M O L C H E S T

1x1 tile

[hollow sierra]

that's it, now i want that

[proper grail]

C H O N K C H E S T

[tawny garden]

1x1 chest pog

[hot zephyr]

Widechest or smallchest?

[hollow sierra]

yes

[hot zephyr]

Go suggest it

[tawny garden]

Inb4 Chunguschest

[hot zephyr]

:chungus:

[cobalt pewter]

imo shrine spawns should be guaranteed

We can already take a relatively god amount of time just finding them

[summer sentinel]

spelunker potions inherit some sort of shrine gps maybe?

[tawny garden]

"Shrine GPS"

[hot zephyr]

Give the metal detector shrine detection

Celest already suggested that a longass time ago

[summer sentinel]

Well something like that yeah, whatever the name is for it so you don’t rip up your world to find that one onyx shrine

[hot zephyr]

Ok but

If you can rip up your world

You don't need the onyx drill

Shrine items as a whole need a rebalance

[cobalt pewter]

Onyx shrine is relatively the worst one to find yes

[hot zephyr]

Trinket of Chi, and the Marble one are garbage

Onyx is impossible to find

Luxor is OP

[cobalt pewter]

Prism is god until it got softcapped

[hot zephyr]

Fungal Symbiote is a requirement for true melee

[cobalt pewter]

Tundra Leash is just there?

I mean Slimy Saddle is just kinda op ig

[hot zephyr]

Tundra Leash is so terrible I forget it exists

[cobalt pewter]

[hot zephyr]

It could drop from Angry Dogs and still be junk

also lel luxors is still broken w yoyos if you spamclick

[cobalt pewter]

Yeah, I'd personally move Tundra Leash outta ice shrine and make a new item for it

And make the Leash Angry Dog drop with some buffs

[hot zephyr]

Or just get rid of shrines all together

[cobalt pewter]

sure

[hot zephyr]

Please

And then trash Legendaries as well

[cobalt pewter]

At least my sugg to rework Legendary drop got approved

[hot zephyr]

Nobody has gotten the Betsy legendary legit.

I promise

[cobalt pewter]

So the only thing we need is time

[tawny garden]

Nah I think there is a masochist somewhere

[hot zephyr]

Nope

[tawny garden]

In their mom's basement

[cobalt pewter]

#suggestions-voting message

[hollow sierra]

vesuvius is tolerable to grind for with armageddon on

[hot zephyr]

Doesn't exist

[hollow sierra]

but as are all legendaries

[cobalt pewter]

Yeah arma is bugged with betsy

But now that the bag bonus will be gone in 1.5 soon™

[summer sentinel]

I got vesuvius in the mp I’m doing after like 50 bags, it was pretty nice

[hot zephyr]

Le operator has arrived

did you seriously grind betsy in CDMP

[hollow sierra]

hopefully we get something else to make boss fights high risk high reward

[summer sentinel]

yeah I wanted it because it was good for LC and rav and so on

[hollow sierra]

regular boss fighting is boring and unrewarding

[hot zephyr]

W H Y

[cobalt pewter]

Wait Lauren is doing cumdump

Anyway

That line is so bad outta context

Uhh

[summer sentinel]

of course I am but I would prefer you call it as cdmp to mention that and secondly why? Well there’s downtime, but moving on

[cobalt pewter]

Wdym

[hot zephyr]

[hollow sierra]

if armageddon is becoming a potato

[hot zephyr]

tbh I'd rather have legendaries be arma rewards than just % chances

if nothing else

[cobalt pewter]

This one got approved btw, hopefully more interesting than either arma or bag drop

#suggestions-voting message

[hot zephyr]

I've seen it

GL

[hollow sierra]

like there should be a reason to turn armageddon and defiled rune on aside from "i want to because i hate myself"

[cobalt pewter]

They intend these difficulties as challenges

[hot zephyr]

iirc Fabsol has said arma and defiled are supposed to be difficulty for the sake of difficulty

and that expecting a reward is the wrong way to look at it

[tawny garden]

They kinda are rn

[cobalt pewter]

Nah, not arma def

[hollow sierra]

okay, but then you should address the things they act as bandaids for

[cobalt pewter]

People farm prehm bosses on arma for easy money

[hot zephyr]

defiled crits are

[hollow sierra]

eg garbage legendaries droprates and garbage rare mob drops

[summer sentinel]

they are both getting reworked anyways in the future for both arma and defiled afaik

[frail mantle]

i think Armageddon rewards are gonna be removed in 1.5

[hot zephyr]

We know

[tawny garden]

[hollow sierra]

you can't just remove the bandaids without fixing the things they're a bandaid for

[hot zephyr]

Money should be better in 1.5 with tinkerer rework

[cobalt pewter]

From what I heard by ozz, Arma will allow either boss nohits, or overall nohits, and scal lore will be ebic

[hot zephyr]

So there's no need for armabags

[cobalt pewter]

And something about Defiled Rune's effects going to a favorite toggle item

[summer sentinel]

Yea the destroyer the tinkerer’s scams ™️ system

[cobalt pewter]

And reworking Rune

[hot zephyr]

I'm going to make a suggestion eventually asking to remove all enemy inflicted crits from the mod

[earnest cape]

nah fuck the goblin in general

[tawny garden]

Am I
The only one who wasn't annoyed by the tinkerer

[hot zephyr]

Yes

[earnest cape]

yes

[cobalt pewter]

Philo you just suck

[tawny garden]

[earnest cape]

the only man on earth

[summer sentinel]

yes

[earnest cape]

lul

[hot zephyr]

Go try and reforge Exoblade

[earnest cape]

[summer sentinel]

reforge SD and come back to me

[cobalt pewter]

Oh yeah my sugg about trimming acc modifiers died

[hollow sierra]

having a reforge mod on for a playthrough made me realise how much money it sucks out of me

[earnest cape]

reject goblin use heros mod

[cobalt pewter]

[hot zephyr]

I feel like enemy crits are dumb because the accessories that give them just encourage throwing yourself at a boss until RNG lets you win

[hollow sierra]

without mod: URGH MY MONEY GOTTA GRIND EVEN MOOOORE
with mod: huh, all legendary weapons and 400 plat to spare before moonlord, nice

[cobalt pewter]

That is why money farms are popular in vanilla

[hot zephyr]

dryad is money farm

[hollow sierra]

its insane how much money that goblin sucks out of you

worse than being married

[cobalt pewter]

Ppl be using slime staff and lucky coin / greedy ring to squeeze muni outta enemies

[proper grail]

And Golden bullets

[earnest cape]

mimic with defiled rune

[hot zephyr]

Anyone agree with me on crits?

[tawny garden]

Broken Slime Staff*

[earnest cape]

^

[cobalt pewter]

Ah yes broken slime staff

[hot zephyr]

Oh it's broken? Nerf time

[tawny garden]

The wiki actually recommends it

[cobalt pewter]

Mhm, I don't see the place for enemy crits

[earnest cape]

whcih one

oh nvm

[hot zephyr]

Enemy crits ie Blood Pact and Defiled mode

[earnest cape]

yeye just realized lul

yeah I agree with you

[hot zephyr]

Blood Pact can either be chad accessory or literally useless depending on lady luck

[earnest cape]

but I think the blood pact is balanced

imagine having luck

[hot zephyr]

There could be other ways to balance it

Especially after MS rework

[earnest cape]

MS?

[hot zephyr]

Y'know how absorber makes you speed up on getting hit

Movement speed rework

[tawny garden]

Reworm

[hot zephyr]

Spoilers for the worm update

[earnest cape]

ah

[hot zephyr]

What if Blood Pact was that... in reverse

[earnest cape]

worm updte

[hot zephyr]

Getting hit slowed your movent speed and vertical speed

[earnest cape]

so "Just don't get hit lol" right

[hot zephyr]

If you aren't worried about taking hits Blood Pact is terrible

[proper grail]

Another Nohitting accessory smh

[earnest cape]

[tawny garden]

What if you're just perma slower when wearing it

[hot zephyr]

No

[cobalt pewter]

Fabled

[hot zephyr]

That's just Mollusk armor

[tawny garden]

m

Mollusk Pact

[earnest cape]

Oh no

[hollow sierra]

oh i just noticed the changelog, i'm glad fabsol is so smart

[summer sentinel]

omw to suggest a shadowspec accessory then (do not actually, please)

[tawny garden]

[hollow sierra]

buffing lucky ad warding instead of nerfing menacing was definitely the way to go

[cobalt pewter]

So taking damage applies Bloody Boost at varying duration (like Hide of Deus), but Bloody Boost will also nerf move speed?

[tawny garden]

Just become a dev smh

[earnest cape]

agreed

[hollow sierra]

core of the deific sponge

[cobalt pewter]

Lemme check what Bloody Boost does in a hot minute

[proper grail]

True final boss, the Deific Sponge

[tawny garden]

[hot zephyr]

Blood Pact is just ech because the devs tried to rebalance it in exactly the wrong ways

Originally IIRC it was just double health but crits

Which made it pretty bad

[cobalt pewter]

iirc Blood Pact will also get some reworks according to Ozz

[hot zephyr]

Instead of removing the funny RNG mechanic they added some random bonuses

[earnest cape]

and also if it does give buffs please make it separate from the buff slot

[hot zephyr]

sayonara blood pact

[tawny garden]

Feedza be reposting the same image 7 times

[cobalt pewter]

Holy shit really

Hnnnng

[hot zephyr]

I think it gets more distorted each time it's posted

[cobalt pewter]

Nah it's still HD

Or at least similar quality

[tawny garden]

Compression artifacts

[cobalt pewter]

Byeah, I'll wait for ozz's word about these reworks when they come

[earnest cape]

[cobalt pewter]

Finally I remembered what to sugg

What if Drataliornus ignores blocks?

I always think a good chunk of damage can be missed just because I had to dodge and scal got out of the arena

[earnest cape]

imagine having decent-ish* weapons that go through blocks. -this post was made by ranger and mage gang

[tawny garden]

Did you take inspiration from Demik's first sugg?

[cobalt pewter]

What

I was smelting scal with drata after the 5th try

[earnest cape]

hot

[dapper coral]

shut

[tawny garden]

[earnest cape]

[dapper coral]

byeah i mean here's the thing right
assuming you have the skills to dodge, iirc drat is generally just really damn good even without noclip

so idk if it's really necessary to make it go through blocks too

[serene fox]

do people unironically use drat outside of nohits

[earnest cape]

no

only feedzuh use it

no one else

[dapper coral]

maybe sygilin/akeeli did but like other than that no lmao

[cobalt pewter]

I just like the weapon, shut

[earnest cape]

everyone is just too bad and too unlucky at the game to even use it

[cobalt pewter]

[serene fox]

fuck not even nohitters use it because they'll get their ass handed to them by judges

[earnest cape]

now that's hilarious

[serene fox]

byeah cool sugg

[cobalt pewter]

Item dedicated to a nohitter designed to fuck over nohitters

The classic

[earnest cape]

[proper grail]

Meanwhile my item that literally anyone can use and fits any playstyle

[cobalt pewter]

What item

[frail mantle]

soon™️

[proper grail]

Ozz finalized it, but it hasn't been added

[cobalt pewter]

[proper grail]

#37 on the waiting list lol

[earnest cape]

the weapon is a burritoe

[cobalt pewter]

Oh yeah more patron items won't be a thing for a good while

[cobalt pewter]

I guess until they cleared out the list and done actual mod stuf?

[earnest cape]

prolly

[proper grail]

This is Ozz's final sheet

[cobalt pewter]

Burrito

[proper grail]

The summon takes the damage of whatever weapon you hold, and can also be placed in Vanity slots (discount pet lol)

[proper grail]

BuRitto

[cobalt pewter]

Did ozz mention about the dmg type this lad does?

[proper grail]

Hmm?

[cobalt pewter]

Probably because if it's minion dmg the dmg can be nyech-ed by holding other weapons, ya know

That thing

[proper grail]

This is very off topic and has been so for a while

[cobalt pewter]

Well ye

[proper grail]

General Media it is

[cobalt pewter]

It's the server's king of derail

Byea

[hollow sierra]

why do any exo tier weapons have block collision i guess is a good question

[cobalt pewter]

Vivid Clarity has tile collision as well iirc

[hollow sierra]

left click on photoviscerator does aswell

[serene fox]

3rd time's a charm?

[cobalt pewter]

What?

[serene fox]

isn't this like

the 3rd time you've suggested this

[cobalt pewter]

Oh ye

Probably

[earnest cape]

why am I not surprised

[cobalt pewter]

Legit Gauss Dagger became garbage vs Skeletron after the .006 change that allows the player to turn while swinging it

For real

Pre .006 it was a beast

[crude geode]

feedzuh tends to repeat things a lot, whether or not they’ve actually suggested it.

[cobalt pewter]

Shit ping

[heady storm]

It happens.

[cobalt pewter]

Hnnnng

Byeah, I'm absolutely agitated that I'm getting harassed to no end by Skeletron

Hence the sugg

[serene fox]

have you tried obsidian swordfish

[cobalt pewter]

Oh yeah phm lava fishing exists

[earnest cape]

imagine

[cobalt pewter]

Will go fishing YAAAAAAY

[clever raft]

I completely agree with making shrines guaranteed/their items crafteable.

This world did not contain a granite or a mushroom shrine.
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/225030931008847874/768510823915847700/unknown.png

Also there technically isn't a limit on how much glass you can make in a world
As you can get some ammo-consumption-chance-reduction buffs and use the sandgun

[golden narwhal]

Wait, doesn't DS still drop sand?

[tawny garden]

I think it does

[earnest cape]

DS does drop sand

around 20 or so

per kill

[clever raft]

Barely any

[golden narwhal]

Sand nonetheless

[earnest cape]

rng go brr

[tawny garden]

Well, the sandgun thing produces even less

[serene fox]

@summer sentinel go to sleep also you should probably address DS dropping sand in your suggestion

[frail mantle]

wiki suggestions would be better in #wiki-discussion than here

[copper orchid]

mb

[frail mantle]

also i believe Calamity changed to vanilla items are on the vanilla changes page

no worries

[river glen]

hmm

is calamity's goal to make every weapon viable at some point of time

even vanilla

cuz if so

i want to suggest every vanilla spear because i think they are all bad to be larger

this will buff them in a way so that they are easier to connect with enemies

[frail mantle]

if calamity didn't care about how viable vanilla items are the mod wouldn't buff any vanilla items

[river glen]

ok

so i can suggest

the spear buff

[crude geode]

Good luck getting people to care tho

[radiant meadow]

because not everything gets approved or rejected?

[river glen]

i relized that

when i said it

[hot zephyr]

@cobalt pewter The easiest way to achieve what you're wanting is to disable ypur character turning while you're swinging melee weapons

[cobalt pewter]

Yes

I especially know about this stuff because I already done sum impelentation myself

[hot zephyr]

That just seems like the most logical way because that's how all other weapons work

[cobalt pewter]

Mhm

[sleek hornet]

@hot zephyr some weapon (especially true melee one) wont turn the player towards the cursor when used

with exceptions of murasama, arkhalis etc.

unlike when using weapon that fire projectile like teratomere, which enables the characterto do 'moonwalk'

[hot zephyr]

Yes, that's my point

I'm saying that all weapons should be able to moonwalk

[cobalt pewter]

Indeed

Honestly the implementation wouldn't be too hard

[sleek hornet]

or just enable deathmode and wait for antlions to spawn, a legit sand afk farm

[sharp prism]

but then you would have top use dmode

[ashen warren]

@wary oasis you should have a reason why if you post a sugg

what would its benefits be for the mod, etc.

[wary oasis]

oh

its just a vanity thing

is that not allowed?

[sharp prism]

calam vanities add thats

[wary oasis]

it does?

[sharp prism]

but you could make they argument about not wanting to use to many mods

[ashen warren]

it's allowed but, maybe add on to the sugg by saying
"The vanity set would allow for more options for those in post-ml tier of progression" or something like that

[wary oasis]

sure?

[cobalt pewter]

Asking for old stuff to be returned in any way is a don't iirc

Check pins

[tawny garden]

Yes

[wary oasis]

its just a vanity tho?

[tawny garden]

But

[wary oasis]

they brought back the old godslayer sprite

i dont see why not

[tawny garden]

Asking for stuff like a tribute is allowed

[sharp prism]

except for THE LORDE tributes

[tawny garden]

And that don't only covers things which were removed completely

(Although I'm not really sure about old sprites suggs, I think we disallowed those before)

[sharp prism]

it says old boss sprite suggs

[tawny garden]

Yeah, those are a no

[sand umbra]

suggesting ancients or a method to otherwise view older yet iconic sprites that have no impact on the mod balance-wise in the end isn't banned, especially given that that is the exact fucking reason Ancient God Slayer exists

suggesting that e.g. Heart Rapier or Astrageldon or the Particle Accelerator return is banned

[tawny garden]

THE LORDE and Siren tributes are banned

[sand umbra]

yeah those are the only two banned tributes

[tawny garden]

For reasons that should be obvious

[sand umbra]

LORDE because he's LORDE (do I even need to explain that further?) and Siren because she's actually the person's OC or something and has virtually no connection with Calamity itself

[pine star]

Yeah

[sharp prism]

the frequently suggested suggested is outdated

[tawny garden]

Yeah

[sharp prism]

"- An on-screen indicator for Armageddon, Death, Defiled Rune, or other modes", "- Auric/Exo-tier gun", and '- Placeable Calamity bars' should be removed from the Frequently Suggested suggestions in the dont doc

[tawny garden]

It is

[sharp prism]

yeah

i know this because i read the doc 😎

[foggy plover]

people still ask for exo gun even tho tyranny's end exists,.,.,.

I think only the first one should be removed

[tawny garden]

I once asked for edit rights on the doc
As you could imagine, it wasn't successful

[foggy plover]

calamity bars is just a spriting thing, people still want exo gun; on screen difficulty indicator will never come up again however

[sharp prism]

of course you did

the only bar that cant be placed rn is victide

[cobalt pewter]

Uhh who edits these thingas again

[tawny garden]

Rover, but I assume he's busy

[cobalt pewter]

[tawny garden]

Cause he didn't talk often in the last few days

So I guess you could ping pinkie

Who owns the doc

[sharp prism]

they could put a note under the auric gun one saying something like "Tyranny's end exists now" like with the Astrageldon Slime slime one

[coarse bronze]

lmao

Tyranny's End is so bad

[wary oasis]

it is

turn it into a full auto sniper shotgun

[coarse bronze]

ikr

[wary oasis]

with bouncy bullets

[coarse bronze]

its terrible

[sharp prism]

its a donator weapon thats how the donator wanted it

[coarse bronze]

oh

[wary oasis]

F

[pine star]

That said, Tyranny's End does about as well as Onyxia against Scal

AND ONYXIA IS POST YHARON 1

[wary oasis]

oof

[sharp prism]

if you want it changed you have to get permission from the donator to make a sugg to change it

[coarse bronze]

I see

[wary oasis]

you know how there is an auric toilet

[coarse bronze]

yes

[wary oasis]

how bout a demonshade equivalent called the demonshitter

[pine star]

No

[coarse bronze]

Y E S

[sharp prism]

thats a dont

[unreal viper]

Nah, balancing donator weapons is fine.

[sharp prism]

also back to the sugg

[unreal viper]

As long as you don't change the function.

[sharp prism]

^

[unreal viper]

So just grab some killtimes and make a buff sugg.

[pine star]

I think I've seen a buff sugg before

That's where I got the "Tyranny's End does about as well as Onyxia against Scal" thing

[wary oasis]

buff slime god then. he? is too easy to beat

:p

[cobalt pewter]

Slime God is fine aside from lack of telegraph on some attacks

[sharp prism]

slime god is not easy

[wary oasis]

I just gotta run with frost park boots in one direction

[sharp prism]

especially in rev+

[wary oasis]

and even in death I can avoid his attacks

[sharp prism]

also thats a dont

[tawny garden]

wut

[coarse bronze]

Slime God is ez

[foggy plover]

tyranny's end is getting rebalanced anyways, dont bother

[wary oasis]

nice

[pine star]

good

[ashen warren]

SG can be difficult to some players and a huge difficulty spike, mainly because there's multiple things you have to focus in

principally lingering shit and minions

[sharp prism]

^

[wary oasis]

what

rouge must be just that strong then

enchanted axe makes it zero effort

[cobalt pewter]

I'd also probably note on the debuffs these shits inflict

[ashen warren]

yeah the

[pine star]

I was melee and it was fine

[ashen warren]

confusion

[sharp prism]

cursed is terrible

[pine star]

That said, FUCK DISTORTED

[ashen warren]

was it cursed or

oh yeah distorted

[cobalt pewter]

Ebonian one is fine, weak is a relatively eh debuff anyway

[pine star]

It was distorted that fucked me

[cobalt pewter]

Crimulan one is Cursed

[pine star]

Cursed isn't too bad, especially with Nazar

[cobalt pewter]

While the core

[ashen warren]

core is distorted

[cobalt pewter]

Hnnnng

[sharp prism]

cursed should be removed from the fight imo

[coarse bronze]

Cursed debuff is not bad

[pine star]

ARRRRGGGGHH

[coarse bronze]

kinda eh

[pine star]

I think Cursed can stay

[sharp prism]

its a prehardmode fight

[coarse bronze]

its managable

[pine star]

Distorted, GTFO!

[whole sedge]

Oh god distorted...
Literally got it once and then got hit like 7 times because of it

[wary oasis]

its still to ez imo

[whole sedge]

And cursed is acceptable but distorted no

[coarse bronze]

distorted is easy to counteract

[sharp prism]

goddammit #suggestions-discussion going off topic again

[coarse bronze]

H o o k

[coarse bronze]

ikr

[wary oasis]

sweet

[sleek girder]

imo brimstone moons are fine as is

[velvet locust]

make a really powerful weapon that can decimate even scal, but you have to nohit scal if you want it

or make it only available after scal and make the crafting tree really big

like the zenith

[whole sedge]

eternity
apotheosis

[sharp prism]

thats a SiS anyways

also apotheosis no longer uses vortex so its crafting tree isnt as big

[slender arch]

post scal worm bosses

[tawny garden]

iirc there will never be an in-game reward for nohitting

@velvet locust read the doc in the pins

[gray nebula]

BASED sugg

do that!

[tawny garden]

[marble hazel]

Woowow nohitting

[velvet locust]

well fuck me

[sharp prism]

literally every post scal weapon is

🗿

[sleek turret]

the only thing that rewards you from no-hitting out-game is a funny color role

[marble hazel]

Also for the pickup range sugg maybe make the items get heavily highlighted instead of magnet lol.

[zenith hazel]

yeetus deletus

[tawny garden]

[whole sedge]

eternity
apotheosis

[tawny garden]

where the fuck do you put it

there's no god damn space

it's all taken by the chongus abyss

[zenith hazel]

the sulphurous sea as it is now is only a gateway to the abyss
so what do you call the regular ocean?

[crystal iron]

Isn't that a don't anyway

[sleek turret]

there's 0 space for buildings on the abyss as except the shrine which is on the bottom and the chest houses that cover uhh, 70% of the abyss.

[tawny garden]

nah, it's not a biome sugg per se

[sharp prism]

water sand tub

[tawny garden]

[slender arch]

sad but true

[zenith hazel]

at the very least, sulphurous sea has plenty of content for it outside of being the gateway to the abyss

[gray nebula]

acid rain : doesnt exist

[tawny garden]

yeah

[gray nebula]

right

[slender arch]

like the event i know

[zenith hazel]

acid rain + OD, AS, other drops

[slender arch]

in the ground next to the actual water maybe

[tawny garden]

byeah it's leaning onto the "extreme amount of time and effort to execute" don't

[zenith hazel]

alright, but what purpose does it serve?

[slender arch]

👀

didnt think that far

[tawny garden]

[crystal iron]

I don't think sulphurous sea needs a temple

[marble hazel]

Lmfao

[crystal iron]

It's fine as it is imo

[violet minnow]

oh god now iban has a generic discord name and an anime pfp
also that sugg is against a rule somewhere

[pine star]

Yeah

[crystal iron]

Or any structure in general, it would feel too cramped

[pine star]

It breaks the "Don't sugg really really big things"

[marble hazel]

*darktiger36

[tawny garden]

the name is still IbanPlay outside the server

[ashen warren]

DarkTiger36

[marble hazel]

^

[pine star]

DarkTiger36

[tawny garden]

ˇ

[sharp prism]

DarkTiger36

[tawny garden]

mhm, DaekTiger36

[sharp prism]

shut

[tawny garden]

no

[sharp prism]

1 blocked message

[mighty knot]

mmm

updated my stuff

[whole sedge]

add a massive structure like the jungle temple but in the sulphurous sea
apparently the abyss isn't good enough

[summer sentinel]

sulphurous see jungle temple hm....interesting

[ancient crow]

if you're gonna add a structure somewhere, put it in the brimstone crags

[sleek turret]

no

brimstone crags are fine.

second of all, structures on cavern/underground layer are occupied by draedon labs, so thats a no.

[slender arch]

Astral then?

No wait

Nvm

[sharp prism]

there's no need for a new structure in the biomes

[hot zephyr]

If there's any changes to the Sulfuric Sea, make one that fleshes out sulfurous caves more.

[slender arch]

That’s a good

One

But what would they change

[hot zephyr]

That's not important

[wooden wedge]

@lusty adder 1. seperate your reason from your title
2. you need a better reason than "its annoying"
3. make what you want clear in your sugg

[sleek turret]

about the Ravager sugg, it would be interesting and also change the fight completly on Phase 2.

[crystal iron]

would it

its just one attack right

[craggy stratus]

floating ravager :fear:

[crystal iron]

i think it would be a nice new attack fro death mode ravager phase 2 cuz iirc he doesnt have a new one

and since ravager is heavy i assume, he should definately release a shockwave that knocbacks u a little

[grim tusk]

video 2 of my suggestion

[ashen warren]

I some-what agree

not really sure though, it's certainly something that can easily cheap-shot you if you're inexperienced with the fight

however, after you experience that for the first time, you kinda understand that you have to end BHs aligned with her

[sharp prism]

holy shit its weird seeing the moons not being hage faces, and yes i agree

cheapshots are dumb

[foggy plover]

cheapshots shouldnt exist, whether or not you are experienced

[sturdy geyser]

^

[foggy plover]

bosses being fair is one of the most important things

[sturdy geyser]

cheapshots shouldn't be in the fight at all

[ashen warren]

Yharon's meteors can cheap-shot you too

[grim tusk]

the hage moons mod is kinda buggy and actually makes the fight harder due to them not being transparent

[sturdy geyser]

okay then yharon has a problem too

[ashen warren]

no he doesn't

my point is, it's not really a cheap-shot

or yes, I don't know how to explain

[sharp prism]

topdeath™️ moment

[grim tusk]

indeed

[sturdy geyser]

Since Scal's bullet hells are rng based, wouldn't aligning with her at the end of the bh occasionally cause you to get hit?

[grim tusk]

^

[ashen warren]

no

[grim tusk]

happens somewhat often to me

[sturdy geyser]

why not

[ashen warren]

why would you get hit

[grim tusk]

specially in bh3, but mostly doesnt

he refers that bh projectiles can line up with scal and cause you to get hit sometimes if you try lining up misi

[ashen warren]

he

okay I get it

wait no I don't...

you don't have to be exactly aligned with her, 10-20 blocks higher or lower than her is just fine

[sturdy geyser]

The solution would be to add a cooldown or make her bullet hells a set pattern

[grim tusk]

^

bh1 does need to be less rng

same goes for bh4

[unreal viper]

Stardust dragon buff lesgo

The bleaching saxophone sugg is great.

[swift fulcrum]

why did stardust dragon get -50% base damage in calamity in the first place

[golden narwhal]

It was broken, so they over-unbrokened it

[terse sundial]

It decimated Deus

and folly, guardians, and was even usable vs polter

it just sucks vs Moon lord

[craggy pilot]

they really did it dirty ngl

[terse sundial]

It's going to be addressed regardless

I can promise you that

[hot zephyr]

Bonus damage against ML, poggies?

[grim tusk]

Meanwhile cells and godhelix do just that lmao

[golden narwhal]

Standard dragon vs worm shenanigans

[unreal viper]

God

Custom resists but inverse.

[pine star]

So like Elemental Axe against Provi?

[unreal viper]

That was removed

[pine star]

Or like Moab Maulers/Spiked Balls

[robust lava]

Resurrection Butterfly vs Duke Fishron

[unreal viper]

Anyway custom resist is an assumption

Boss ai or minion ai changes are alternatives

[grim tusk]

I dont think bloons balance treatment will be good on Terraria, just look how op alchemist is

[pine star]

That was just an example of inverse resist

And also Desert Prowler in a way gives 3xx alch buff

+1 damage to all ranged attacks

[craggy pilot]

The chords to Never gonna give you up are FM7, G, Am, Em 😉

[unreal viper]

:wut:

[tawny garden]

http://bitly.com/98K8eH moment

[sleek turret]

You monster.

[tawny garden]

[unreal viper]

Dude, you just gotta roll with it.

[sleek turret]

Got rickrolled by a bitly link.

Can't trust them anymore.

[unreal viper]

I knew what was coming and I still clicked it.

[tawny garden]

I specifically created a bitly link

cause people remember the youtube link now

the video ID

[pine star]

YOU ASSHOLE

[unreal viper]

bruh

[sleek turret]

...and also your bitly link, now.

[tawny garden]

....yeah

[craggy pilot]

i mean we all knew it was coming

[tawny garden]

I created offtopic again

[sleek turret]

(back to suggestions)

[unreal viper]

stardust dragon buff good, specifc item resist but backwards bad

[lusty iris]

man my sugg got so close to 200

[grim tusk]

What sugg was it?

[unreal viper]

I ca'nt find it.

Odd.

I tried searching for suggs by you and mentioning you in sugg voting,

Found it.

Remove the Damage Reduction From the Start of Astrum Deus's Second Phase is the title.

[crude geode]

Are you sure you mean Artemis Emblem? Artemis Emblem is

10% increased ranged damage
5% increased ranged critical strike chance
20% reduced ammo usage
Defense increased by 5
Life regen increased by 2
15% increased pick speed

No minion knockback

@unreal viper

[dapper coral]

i mean, everything else fits

other than the minion knockback

(but also if you are referring to artemis emblem it's kinda weird to say that the sniper scope exists for rangers, because like, artemis emblem is also for rangers)

[crude geode]

(More boosts is better, and ranger doesn’t really have anything else to equip at that point)

[hot zephyr]

sniper scope?

[crude geode]

Might make a suggestion to remove a lot of the fluff from Sigil of Calamitas, because a lot of it doesn’t make sense/is completely unnecessary

[sleek turret]

uhh, feedbacks about my sugg?

[crude geode]

It’s fine.

Makes sense.

[sleek girder]

yknow a shockwave from ravager sounds neat

[sleek turret]

bloody shockwave.

[sleek girder]

british?

[crude geode]

ew, adding more to the ravager fight

[sleek turret]

nah only on deathmode™️

as the suggestion implies.

[wispy river]

There should be an option to see your character and still have the effects of shadow potions

[sleek turret]

The invisibility?

[wispy river]

yeah

[crude geode]

The invisibility of stealth has a toggle, but I don’t think that’s what you’re talking about

[sleek turret]

Hmm, I think its disabled for boss fights at all.

...but casually when doing everything that isn't bossfight is enabled.

[crude geode]

I don’t see the suggestion implying this would be a Deathmode change at all. Just a Ravager change in general.

[sleek turret]

oh then it was changed.

mb

[crude geode]

They just brought it up in suggestion discussion which doesn’t account for the actual suggestion.

[wispy river]

you know how the dune hopper is the rare varient of the scourge of the desert and its dropped from desert scourge aquatic scourge is just the aquatic version theres a aquatic version of scourge of the desert there should a rare verient for scourge of the ocean

[sharp prism]

what

[crude geode]

...that took me a moment to process due to the run on nature

[cobalt pewter]

Wh

[crude geode]

Yeah.

[wispy river]

yeah sorry

I should be more clear

[crude geode]

You want a rare variant of the Scourge of the Seas, the weapon dropped by Aquatic Scourge, that looks like Desert Scourge. That way, it mirrors how there’s a rare variant of the Scourge of the Desert that looks like Aquatic Scourge.

Right?

[wispy river]

ok now im confused

[pine star]

Should I ping a mod about the new sugg in #suggestions-posting ?

It's "add whips"

[dapper coral]

hi

[wispy river]

aquatic scourge and desert scourge if you know the lore are the same thing

well kinda

[dapper coral]

@limpid hare you can't make suggs about 1.4 content

[crude geode]

Kinda yeah

desert scourge is just hungry

[dapper coral]

wait until mods catch up with vanilla 1.4 before you do so

[heady storm]

@limpid hare you were just told to not with future suggestions.

[sturdy geyser]

I assume you did not mean to send that

sand, that is

[serene fox]

bruh

okay well it's gone yet again

[heady storm]

3rd time and it’s a warn so yeah.

[cobalt pewter]

Hnnng

[pine star]

What

[coarse bronze]

I mean in theory the space Draedons Lab could have given some little bits of info on the Astral Infection

Even just a little obscure reference

Hell Yes

we need a shrine locator

you see

It would be post EoC

because certain items become obsolete after certain bosses

also

There could be different locators for each type of shrine (e.g. Surface/Underground, Cavern, Mushroom)

[pine star]

Yeah

And maybe some shrine locators are easier to make than others?

Luxor's Gift finder should be harder to make than Trinket of Chi finder

[coarse bronze]

yeah

Trinket of chi requires clay and dirt

Luxors could use desert fossils and some desert related blocks and items

[pine star]

yeah

Fungal Symbiote could use like glowing mushrooms and what?

[coarse bronze]

Desert Fossils are post evil boss

Uhhhh

Feral Claws?

Wait no

nvm

Fungal Symbiote is mushrooms, seeds, maybe mud

[pine star]

I guess

[coarse bronze]

all of them could use demonite/crimtane/lead/iron

[radiant meadow]

would the latest one be a blue check? https://discordapp.com/channels/225030931008847874/263382359397761025/740648034005942473

[heady storm]

It would be yeah.

[wispy river]

there should be something that disables aquatic scourge naturaly spawning

[sleek hornet]

make a sugg about that then

[cobalt pewter]

Maybe Sulphur Sea lore?

[summer sentinel]

You could mention that the sulphur sea lore be given the ability to stop naturally spawning AS for example since that has no effect

[cobalt pewter]

Does it do anything atm?

Ah yes

[wispy river]

yeah thats what i was thinking

[cobalt pewter]

It doesn't

[wispy river]

yeah il make a sug about that

just reading the pins

[worthy lintel]

I mean, Scourge spawns are stupidly rare when you're expected to fight it and when it's common you usually already beat it

BUT, there's literally nothing wrong with the sugg

[hot zephyr]

I've got an idea for a server sugg

Rename #multiplayer-looking-to-play to "multiplayer-lfg" so people stop going there for actual hook ups

[sleek turret]

lfg?

[wispy river]

or looking to play?

[haughty owl]

Looking for game?

[dapper coral]

so people stop going there for actual hook ups
okay how many times have you legitimately seen this though

i see the one from just now

[hot zephyr]

I remember Merk talking about renaming it a long ass time ago; but he never found a name

I dunno, been a hot minute

[craggy pilot]

all he wanted was a gilrfrieend 😔

[hot zephyr]

gil fiend

[radiant meadow]

99.99% of people use it as intended.

[heady storm]

Could just remove "-hook-ups" entirely.

[radiant meadow]

Weird ass "hookups" are a complete outlier.

[hot zephyr]

It's just one less thing mods have to deal with

[radiant meadow]

If someone wants to be a creepy fuck, they're going to do it anyways.

[dapper coral]

not like it's something we have to deal with anyways tbh

[heady storm]

If it's so minor, we can just get rid of it and never have to deal with it again.

[hot zephyr]

Perhaps

[radiant meadow]

And if you come to a Terraria mod server for a girl/boyfriend, well

you need to get a life

[hot zephyr]

You'd be surprised

[heady storm]

Byeah, try if you want Ian.

[radiant meadow]

They still need to get a life.

[hot zephyr]

I also think that the anti self deprecation/attention baiting statement Fab made needs to be just a server rule, since it's already been buried

But I'm not sure if that's more a discussion for the moderator's inner circle than a #suggestions-voting suggestion

[heady storm]

Yeah we're going to do that; Mrrp just needs his computer repaired.

[hot zephyr]

Thanks

[sleek turret]

Anyways, uhh, asking again, any feedback regarding to my suggestion?

[summer sentinel]

(It definitely was not buried I can tell you that Ian, just mobile editing you know is a pain)

[heady storm]

Nothing to provide Kaizo.

[hot zephyr]

Not buried enough for it to not be able to be found again, but buried enough that many people missed it

[heady storm]

Surprises me you couldn't get the tear from crates.

[hot zephyr]

Patience is key, Kaizo

[summer sentinel]

^also your sugg is fine Kaizo, I had 0 idea you couldn't get it from crates and yeah, ik what you mean Ian

[sleek turret]

Well, now its time to wait.

[wispy river]

Same

[earnest cape]

oh wow the shrine sugg has already been delivered in the past

[hot zephyr]

It's been four months

[glass sentinel]

@reef wave how does moving one of the attacks to rmb help you with dodging

[sand umbra]

I'm afraid this isn't possible

not without changing which attacks are the left-click attacks

[reef wave]

Well holding up is kinda difficult when trying to dodge hundreds of Yharon fireballs

at least for me

[glass sentinel]

dont use it for yharon

easy

[sand umbra]

it's not even a matter of "this makes no sense" which was the thing I was originally going to quote

it's a matter of "this literally cannot be done without rearranging the attack assignments entirely because Terraria is a terribly programmed game"

[reef wave]

Its just a quality of life idea

[glass sentinel]

how tho?

it isnt a qol sugg

it changes the wep

[sand umbra]

basically
both left-UP attacks would need to become left-click
and left attacks would need to become right

unless standard left attacks are also channeled

[reef wave]

No not really

[sand umbra]

in which case this legit can't be done

[reef wave]

for example right click does the swing

left click does the throw

[earnest cape]

well anyways you gotta ask the dedicatee if you want to change it

[golden narwhal]

If the "impossible" - yea

[violet dagger]

redcode

[glass sentinel]

oh yea thats tru

[violet dagger]

[reef wave]

I don't know much about terraria mechanics so it might be something not easily possible

[sand umbra]

actually wait a fucking minute

no hold on

both channeled abilities are just the default left abilities

okay

[reef wave]

the weapon has to be "charged" before use so

also, yeah the weapon is dedicated content so

[sand umbra]

anywho yeah uh

you're gonna have to speak to the man responsible for Final Dawn's existence

[earnest cape]

Dan Yami

[violet dagger]

@dan yami

[reef wave]

Its no big deal just an idea

[violet dagger]

dont ping tho

hes sleeping rn

[earnest cape]

shleep

[violet dagger]

gonna have to wait for a response

[radiant meadow]

all 4 attacks are channeled

Moving stuff to right click is not possible or it would've already been done.