Discord is cold
#suggestions-discussion
granite grail
buoyant dock
i dont know what else hes talking about
cause neiter terraria, discord nor calamity have levels
buoyant dock
regardless lets get back to the conversation at hand
sand umbra
yes
granite grail
What was it
hollow shell
You still haven't edited or deleted your suggestion, douglas
The ping at the start should be removed no matter what
granite grail
Ok
buoyant dock
why wouldnt it? the more you use something the better you know how to use it. its obvious enough imho
radiant meadow
we already have a good amount-ish of consumable rogue weapons
hollow shell
And you need to elaborate on why more consumable rogue weapons are needed
Specifically, why wooden pocket knives are needed. (If you can't think of a reason why wooden pocket knives are needed, then remove that specification from the suggestion)
radiant meadow
including some the bandit sells
sand umbra
uh-huh
there are...how many mods that do the same concept but more in-depth, again?
sand umbra
and how necessary is it, really, aside from being yet another additional feature that'll eventually give someone an aneurysm balancing around it
granite grail
Ya
hollow shell
Proficiency exists to improve class commitment, I guess
buoyant dock
you need a reason for suggestions @granite grail
sand umbra
mutlclassing already barely exists
granite grail
I totally agree with you
tawny gyro
astral armor
sand umbra
particularly within Calamity's context
things like Astral and Fearmonger are exceptions, not examples
tawny gyro
isn't fearmonger a summoner-only set?
hollow shell
@pliant dome Gotta add a reason
red stormBOT
mighty knot
@pliant dome ya need a reason
buoyant dock
@pliant dome reason? also zergs were nerfed specifically because the devs agreed that it was too powerful
mighty knot
also no
indigo fog
why do zerg potions need a buff
buoyant dock
if you want more enemy spawns just use the two candles and two potions together
it should get you to about the same spawn rate is pre-nerf zerg
indigo fog
it was nerfed because it was broken as fuck and made all of the other spawn rate boosters useless
mighty knot
^
tawny gyro
^
hollow shell
Also, you can get big enemy spawn boosts comparable to old Zerg, if you use Water Candle, Chaos Candle, Battle Potion, and Zerg Potion at the same time
In the past, it was too easy to get super big spawnrates from just a single source, so now you need to use multiple
sand umbra
when it's been like the better part of a year and people still won't shut the fuck up about Zerg Rush™️ Potions
granite grail
Is it a “don’t” to suggest an addition to an invasion?
cobalt rose
yes
tawny garden
not always
tawny gyro
an addition of an invasion or to an invasion?
because adding stuff to an invasion seems fine
granite grail
Like to the vanilla ones
hollow shell
You can suggest additions to existing invasions, yes
granite grail
Ok
buoyant dock
but not suggest adding a new invasion iirc
tawny gyro
obviously
unkempt bolt
now that's a reason if i've ever seen one
granite grail
Ok I wasn’t going to do that
tawny garden
@pliant dome Your suggestion shouldn't exist
wary canyon
reasoning 100
wary canyon
they can change it
indigo fog
can we delete that zerg potion suggestion because i don't see a reason being edited in any time soon
hollow shell
It has been less than 10 minutes but may as well
tis only three words, they can repost
frail mantle
yea reposting with an actual reasoning is always an option
granite grail
The Pirates should be able to break down doors, if they can’t do that already
granite grail
Okay
tawny garden
goblins can break doors
granite grail
Ya i know that
tawny garden
so pirates also could
indigo fog
pirates can open doors yes
tawny gyro
i still remember my first playthrough of vanilla even, when i did every building on the ground without knowing how dangerous that is
granite grail
Cannon ballers
tawny gyro
80% of my NPCs were slaughtered
granite grail
Two mobs have a cannon ball to shoot at you
tawny gyro
btw, is the Cosmic Immat crafting tree getting changed anytime soon? (for weapon type consistency)
they did change Celestus a bunch of times to have it only use boomerangs
granite grail
I know the pirate already does that but
tawny gyro
and Alpha Virus
granite grail
Oh ok
buoyant dock
quick question regarding suggestions
if enough devs think a suggestion is important enough or the suggestion is a fix, can it bypass the 120 star rule?
hollow shell
Suggs have been implemented before reaching 120 stars, yes
buoyant dock
Ex: the suggestion i made regarding the sulphurous armor missmatching its tooltip
frail mantle
if it's just a small oversight it'll usually be fixed before it gets 120 stars, ye
buoyant dock
in v1.4.4.1
frail mantle
if it's a bug then it just shouldn't go in here
hollow shell
(I usually discourage that so it doesn't devalue the star system but if it is just a small fix then that's fine)
novel kite
I hope so, my suggestion will never get to 120 stars since only people who play true summoner will understand that pain :/
novel kite
Yea, I figured
hollow shell
lol
buoyant dock
ive seen like. 30?
i doubt my suggestion will reach 120 too but hey, a man can hope.
hollow shell
It's been a bit of a dry streak recently but if you scroll back you'll see em
void kelp
tbh if it helps ease the workload on devs
buoyant dock
while its true its also important for the devs to get feedback from the people who use their product
novel kite
But a lot of good suggestions get lost because people might not relate to that
buoyant dock
that and that not everyone check the suggestions chat
there are currently 20k people online on the discord.
if every single one checked the suggestions feed thing will get much more stars
wooden wedge
online doesn't mean that they're looking at the server
novel kite
With the current system, any suggestions that are more specific to a class or a playstyle are infinitely more likely to be ignored
buoyant dock
thing is i didnt make one relating to either
i made a suggestion relating to the terminus that yharon drops
hollow shell
Unfortunately there isn't really a better way to determine a sugg's objective quality with things like reactions
The system we have now where we deliver based on how many people think the suggestion is a good idea works fine
Your suggestion could/should provide enough context for why people would wanna star it, even if they don't personally experience it
buoyant dock
thats true.
but as you said its been a dry period where very few suggestion pass that threshold
dapper violet
when's that suggestion overhaul happening?
hollow shell
It's comin along
Should be very soon actually, bot rework is almost done
buoyant dock
theres a suggestion overhaul planed?
void kelp
oh that’s hype!
dapper violet
oh yes
void kelp
the suggestion rover made
hollow shell
earnest harness
tbh i think it would be reasonable to change the star req on a month-by-month basis depending on how many suggestions reached the threshold during a given month
hollow shell
That would be
quite a bit of effort on my part
I only do star tallies on occasion because of the timesink they are
ashen warren
it would be easier to automate the process than do it manually if it's monthly yeah
hollow shell
SuggestionBot, May 1st:
"The star requirement for this month is: 110 Stars!"
SuggestionBot, July 1st:
"The star requirement for this month is: 90 Stars!"
... could be neat
agile cloud
i like that
swift wadi
If the new system will be bot automated, I'm sure it could take note of how many suggestions reach the star requirement compared to how many were submitted and adjust accordingly
hollow shell
Nah the new system won't check star counts
swift wadi
It would just need a min - max star requirement and knowledge of how many suggestions you actually want submitted
hollow shell
We haven't automated that far yet
ashen warren
it does though
ashen warren
yet
hollow shell
yet™️
Should we just go all-out with the rework and include automatic delivery this update too
or are you burnt out
ashen warren
i don't mind it, but it depends if you're willing to wait for it
radiant meadow
so make stormlions skinnier
swift wadi
What would the bot aim for? It would need a % of suggestions that would preferably be delivered so it doesn't go "I want 100% of suggs to be delivered so ima always make the star count hella low"
Afaik
hollow shell
m
buoyant dock
you can make it calculate the avrage amount of starts per month
and adjust according to that
problem it will eventually need some human input
hollow shell
If you're willing to do it that'd be awesome, Amber
but
perhaps we should get this part of the rework out first then you can work on delivery automation
swift wadi
Or average amount of unique people reacted to suggestions that month? Would that even be possible
buoyant dock
since low star count could also be caused by a streak of bad suggestions, as well as lower activity
hollow shell
yeah there's also a matter of just, coincidentally gettin a lot of good or a lot of bad suggs in a month
ashen warren
i was just gonna have it spit out stats based on suggestions in the past month and how many/how well they did
stoic vector
general question has anyone had any world lag involving the heart of the elements?
frail mantle
yea i feel it'd be best to first focus on getting the thing working and then refining it to have functions such as this
ashen warren
and then it'd be up to rover what to do with it
hollow shell
I don't think I have Crimson
buoyant dock
i may not be a mod or something
hollow shell
and yeah maybe.
I was thinking that somewhere around 30% or 35% delivery rate is acceptable
buoyant dock
but personally i think the bot should have a minimum set for a number of starts req
stoic vector
because i have had a small bit when the followers spawn underneath me and break instantly and just keeps repeating
swift wadi
Sounds like an outdated mod
hollow shell
That sounds like a bug that I have heard before
swift wadi
That was fixed ages ago
hollow shell
prolly outdated yeah
ashen warren
i was gonna say 10-20% ish to avoid overwhelming devs with stuffs but that should 100% vary based on how many suggs we get
buoyant dock
as to prevent a streak of bad suggestions or low activity harming the quality standards
swift wadi
@stoic vector Please check your version of the Calamity mod and move to #bugs-read-pins 
stoic vector
currently the latest calamity is the only core mod i have
hollow shell
From #mod-downloads ?
buoyant dock
v1.4.4.2?
stoic vector
yea
swift wadi
never ask "this one? newest version number" ask "what's the newest version then?" or "what's your version number?" so they actually go and check instead of just say "yeah"
stoic vector
want a screen shot
buoyant dock
sure but this chat isnt the right chat for this
void kelp
#bugs-read-pins might be it
swift wadi
Go to #bugs-read-pins, send a log file using the pinned instructions, and continue this convo there
Like I said before 
hollow shell
quick question
is #suggestions-voting currently postable
wooden wedge
@ mrpp fat.,.,.,.,,.,
winged fiber
Yo, need opinions since I'm gonna try helping out with the fountain suggestion myself and putting it in the sprite submission channel if it turns out well
buoyant dock
wait is suggestion being stopped from being posted to?
hollow shell
Well you don't need to make a suggestion about it, cuz it's already technically accepted
All we need are sprites
winged fiber
For the Abyss fountain, should I make it based on the plethora of diving gear relating to the biome, or base it on the biome itself?
hollow shell
aight how bout now @wooden wedge
winged fiber
Nah, it's already in there, I'm saying I'm working on ideas for actually making the sprite
wooden wedge
cant bottom spam
buoyant dock
nope. cant post.
hollow shell
Great
winged fiber
I've already got the base of the fountaiun ready to add to, I just don't know what to add to it
hollow shell
Lemme pin this diagram of how the new suggestion flow is gonna go
covert siren
Rover is this due to your suggestion to seperate the channels?
hollow shell
Suggestion Rework details: https://discordapp.com/channels/225030931008847874/263382359397761025/698833547883970571
with a Flowchart!
(Notes: "suggestions_display" is actually #suggestions-voting, and "brainlet" means dumb and/or bad. It's all in good fun, don't worry.)
earnest harness
dumb/not formatted correctly/not enough reasoning
covert siren
Lmao
gray nebula
Epic rework
winged fiber
For example my early suggestion of making a version of the Desert Scourge that's three times harder than supreme Calamitas
earnest harness
i assume this channel will still exist?
gray nebula
Yess
winged fiber
That's a brainlet suggestion
void kelp
!!! :0
hollow shell
This channel's totally unchanged
winged fiber
Oh, by the way, need opinions from you guys
hollow shell
I think having a diving gear man with water leaking out of his face is a cool design for the Abyss
winged fiber
How does an abyssal gravel-style formation holding up a diving helmet leaking water sound for the Abyssal Water Fountain's sprite
covert siren
This is gonna be great unless it takes really long for people to decide if it will go through or not
hollow shell
ye that sounds good Dek
winged fiber
I just realized I don't have to do one or the other
And plus making a gravel formation is pretty easy to do even if you have no idea how spriting works
void kelp
wouldn’t it be better to make a sprite ye
ashen warren
if something breaks with the bot, feel free to yell at me for it 
winged fiber
Because I was answering my own suggestion and there were too many shitposts when I tried asking the art server earlier
hollow shell
ah
winged fiber
I only got one serious answer after asking a second time
vague laurel
All suggestions will now be put into the game no matter what to test if it would be a helpful addition or not /s
ashen warren
also yes art servers pixel-art channel has you covered
earnest harness
just spank them until they work
ashen warren
winged fiber
But yeah, gonna do abyss first because it's way easier than the idea I have in mind for Sunken Sea
gray nebula
Yeah that's not really a suggestion
terse sundial
just go along with it
covert siren
Can people apply for being a dev?
civic pond
Oh is it finally time
gray nebula
And this is the suggestion discussion channel and I'm talking about your fountains
hollow shell
Nah, the devs elect members of the public
gray nebula
Applying for dev 
winged fiber
Oh, gotcha
hollow shell
the public doesn't apply
terse sundial
^
radiant meadow
cute
earnest harness
i was talking about spanking the people in the art server
ashen warren
brb applying for dev
winged fiber
I'm pretty sure you just become a dev by working on the mod enough
earnest harness
sounds like they need it
winged fiber
I don't think there's such a thing as "applying" for it
terse sundial
time to remove termi's perms
vague laurel
is there somewhere I can check the patreon custom item definitions/specifications
civic pond
This is a good system
gray nebula
Ask the devs to let you animate a big fucking sprite and become dev by actually animating it
civic pond
pogu
radiant meadow
bad moderator
vague laurel
radiant meadow
:C
winged fiber
So if I actually animate the Desert Scourge Omega does that make me a dev
terse sundial
actually we have channel perms on the hidden funny suggestion rework channel
so lol
vague laurel
Have the new armor sheets for 1.4 armors been released for mod creators to work on?
winged fiber
Actually, Summoner, I have a wonderful, horrible idea
radiant meadow
desert scourge doesn't need animations
civic pond
So from what I gather suggs is just splitting in 2
winged fiber
Make a "joke suggestion" channel where if any suggestion reaches over 500 votes it gets looked at
Not approved, just looked at
gray nebula
No
radiant meadow
no
covert siren
no
radiant meadow
moreover
gray nebula
That's a meme suggestion in itself
vocal grotto
Dunno about that one chief
radiant meadow
nothing ever reaches 500 stars
toxic kettle
^
radiant meadow
200? rarely
toxic kettle
even 200 is rare
gray nebula
Yeah just break the rules and suggest something dumb
vague laurel
covert siren
i saw 300
gray nebula
Ppl will already screenshot it and repost it elsewhere
winged fiber
Anyways, back to working on stuff before I start actually doing stuff for the abyssal fountain
quick ice
woah, #suggestions-voting is exist now
hollow shell
votig
timid cave
votig
radiant meadow
it's the same channel but renamed
grim tusk
huh why I cannot vote now?
timid cave
idk
radiant meadow
because the rework isn't done yet
quick ice
no I know, just commenting on the changes as they're happening
dapper coral
if sug is brainlet or we need to edit something, do we get pinged in this channel?
terse sundial
yes
hollow shell
yeah
Usually
It's good practice to look into this channel even if you're not directly pinged, cuz people will talk about your suggestion
buoyant dock
i just realised something
now thay you blocked the channle to posting
it doesnt let vote either
hollow shell
yeah just noticed that
grim tusk
:tru:
ashen warren
voting should be fixed
buoyant dock
it is
vague laurel
Calamity adds the fishing rod extra lures right?
quick ice
for some poles, yes
toxic kettle
the extra line for every 5 fishing quests is luiafk
hollow shell
ayyy
terse sundial
Now we're in business
vague laurel
What if you had to unlock the extra lures by completing angler quests, because it seems a little too easy to just right off the bat have three lures in prehm (like luiafk)
dapper coral
but you dont, you only get extra lures with perennial +
toxic kettle
which pre-HM fishing rod has three lines
vague laurel
sitting ducks
toxic kettle
that has one
dapper coral
false
toxic kettle
all of them have one afaik
vague laurel
dapper coral
ok well its pretty rare from the dude
hollow shell
(btw you can vote in #suggestions-voting again, twas a bot error)
vague laurel
mechanics has three, fiberglass has two
dapper coral
so eh
toxic kettle
that's not vanilla or Calamity and probably doesn't fit in this channel
hallow kraken
that’s from mutant mod
subtle oracle
wait sugg voting exists now, since when?
hallow kraken
mutant mod gives duck pole three lures
hallow kraken
there’s a config for it
marble mirage
oh yeah there was a suggestion for a rework of the channel
hallow kraken
extra lures or something
marble mirage
fuq
hallow kraken
just don’t use them
vague laurel
I have two friends that will probably use them ;-;
quick ice
then that's their choice
ashen warren
bruh
dapper coral
@subtle oracle since about 10 minutes ago 😛
ashen warren
this is a really good rework
quick ice
yup; If it works how Rover described it, it should reduce how many suggestions are posted and ensure that the ones that are posted are actually good suggestions
dapper coral
i am all for it lol
especially because i am somewhat small-brain so i suggest dumb things sometimes
hushed marsh
The mod really needs dyes, At least Thorium does.
quick ice
post here in #suggestions-discussion if you want to avoid making dumb suggestions
get peoples opinion before you put in the new submissions channel
dapper coral
indeed, i learned tha tvery quickly
vague laurel
I think the dyes in vanilla are good enough
radiant meadow
dyes are kinda wack to code iirc
quick ice
^
Also Zak, why are you talking about Thorium in Calamities Suggestion channel
vague laurel
yeah terraria has some buggy dyes
hushed marsh
no, Calamity does need dyes
vague laurel
there was a mod that fixed all dyes in vanilla but idk where it went
toxic kettle
Rage/Adrenaline dyes have been suggested a few times
vague laurel
if you want dyes, get thorium
hushed marsh
ik
vague laurel
hollow shell
Calamity dyes would be nice
hushed marsh
There could be an addon mod that adds dyes to calamity
hollow shell
been sugg'd a few times in the past
quick ice
Rogue Stealth Hair dye would also be nice*
scenic crypt
calamity dyes with color themes of the bosses would look cool
quick ice
similar to Thoriums Bard-Empowerment Dye; Shame I can't suggest that specifically though cause SiS
hushed marsh
yeah, How would an auric or Cosmic dye look tho
vague laurel
um
im pretty sure there are already vanilla dyes for about every boss
grim dye is calamitous/brimstone/other
ashen warren
not really
vague laurel
hell dyes, shadowflame dye or hades dye iirc for DoG
scenic crypt
siren and leviathan could be smth like a mix of orange and teal
vague laurel
sea dyes ;-;
ashen warren
while being combined does make it look like the boss, i think the point of calamity dyes would be to have a single dye that would make something look like said boss or effect rather than needing multiple for that effect
sleek wadi
How about dye color comboes for each armor set, like red and blue for Victide, blue and pink for Statigel, etc.
ashen warren
yeah
scenic crypt
yes
ashen warren
armor tier dyes sounds great
and then perhaps some for the main debuffs
and astral, ofc
scenic crypt
living ocean dye is blue with a slight tone changing effect iirc
ashen warren
lol
scenic crypt
lol
toxic kettle
blue acid dye
vague laurel
just get creative
dont need to waste so much time programming and adding a totally new thing for calamity for something you can already do ingame
that are as miniscule as dyes
winged fiber
Good news, the Diving Mask on Abyssal Gravel formation idea is looking good so far
ashen warren
i assume the reason dyes have yet to be added is because they might be difficult to implement and they aren't crucial to the game
quick ice
the same arguement could be used for the Furniture Sets in Calam, but those have still been implemented
ashen warren
but there's not really any reason against having them
ashen warren
another matter is how frequently calam stuff gets respritten, meaning dyes might have to change too
quick ice
we're still waiting on the other Suggs channel
vague laurel
how often are general color schemes re-spritten?
scenic crypt
furniture have sprites; dyes dont
ashen warren
pretty often
sleek wadi
One thing about modded dyes is that they need ShaderLib to work IIRC, and even then they don't work on modded accessories.
vague laurel
I dont think that calamity wants to add any sidemods to run it
sleek wadi
ShaderLib becoming a dependency out of nowhere is a little wack
vague laurel
too much work for something you can do with a little bit of creativity
although the same thing can be said about furniture mods
ashen warren
you cant solve everything about not having calam dyes with creativity doe
scenic crypt
??
winged fiber
@hollow shell Yo, if I'm asking for a suggestion on the Abyss fountain sprite should I do it here, Calamity general, or just general talk
quick ice
wait for Suggs to return Dek
ashen warren
there's just not enough vanilla dyes to fit the calamity color schemes
terse sundial
You can if you want to, but suggestions are currently disabled
winged fiber
Nah, here's the thing
vague laurel
of course, but I dont remember the last time someone really cared about vanity and needed a new dye to accomplsih their goals
quick ice
it'll be back soon™️
vague laurel
atleast in the calamity community
hollow shell
Spriting channel in Art would be the best place, objectively
ashen warren
abyss fountain is also being worked on by someone in #pixel-art iirc
winged fiber
I know, I was mainly just looking for a bigger sample for the question
Ras that person is me
Wait, nevermind, there's another guy
Well, I'm still gonna make my design and see which turns out better
rugged belfry
@hollow shell In what way is it getting reworked?
terse sundial
check the pins
hollow shell
ye
Pinned message has a link to my sugg, which details the rework
(flowchart too)
rugged belfry
brainlet?
hollow shell
i.e. stupid and bad
wooden wedge
small brain people
hollow shell
(brain is small)
rugged belfry
I know this might be a bit of a stretch, but if you can't figure out a way that the bot could repost and delete the suggestion, you could get someone to make a custom bot for not only that, but, to give it more purpose, the rest of the server.
hollow shell
nah the bot's all good, all set up
rugged belfry
Ah ok
radiant meadow
@ashen warren is a custom bot
radiant meadow
@pale nacelle and @hot meteor are its bot buddies
hollow shell
(with very good pfps)
civic pond
what happened to suggestion GOD
ashen warren
far more creative than a star iirc
terse sundial
no
hollow shell
btw Amber how goes it
radiant meadow
@fierce thorn also exists but he's long dead
civic pond
Oh.
ashen warren
i found the issue as to why it wasn't cleaning up, the lib pulled a sneaky and changed the requirements for purging
oh my god
so yes i'm fixing that
hollow shell
aighty
terse sundial
sweet
gray nebula
what is that bot supposed to do
rose ermine
cough cough
terse sundial
when we react with the "repost/go-ahead" emote to a suggestion in #suggestions-posting , it reposts it in #suggestions-voting
ashen warren
automatically moderate basically iirc
hollow shell
nah he means FilterBot assumedly
gray nebula
I was talking about the filterbot yes
terse sundial
oh
hollow shell
It was a meme fun game bot for CDs
gray nebula
o
terse sundial
it died ages ago
hollow shell
doing stuff like
me: "!potiongame RoverdriveX"
filterbot: "RoverdriveX drank a potion of fire and burned to death. What a dickhead!"
like that
gray nebula
damf
terse sundial
they were too small
dapper coral
bold of it to assume they existed in the first place
vague laurel
config suggestions are the ultimate chad move because if you dont like it, you can just disable it
winged fiber
I just found out that they weren't looking for "just vanilla color palettes" after coming to a roadblock and oh God it feels so much better working on the fountain sprite now that I'm no longer limited to five shades of gray
vague laurel
I have one in mind, just waiting for suggestions to be improved
kindred topaz
how do i get the mod?
wooden wedge
wrong chat
hollow shell
#mod-downloads
installation instructions are in #help-advice-read-pins
ashen warren
it's happening btw rover
hollow shell
Oh, death is finally occurring?
ashen warren
yes
hollow shell
Nice
brittle nexus
that sounds very ominous
hollow shell
I was worried about overpopulation for a second there
ashen warren
one more round ought to do it
@hollow shell now i'm gonna go make it not do the death thing
hollow shell
Nice
dapper coral
this is indeed a very ominous conversation
wooden wedge
did you expect anything else?
ashen warren
@sinful violet @hollow shell slaughter has taken place and the herd effectively culled, you can open the floodgates
hollow shell
Excellent
gray nebula
this is very mysterious
winged fiber
Well, rip my WIP Abyss fountain, turns out they already finished the fountains for both the biomes I wanted to do
At least the sprites are getting done though
hollow shell
@sinful violet You can open #suggestions-posting now
civic pond
👀
ashen warren
well not voting smh
subtle oracle
Wait if sugg voting is closed. then does this mean that we can't post our suggs?
ashen warren
that one's good as is
subtle oracle
we can still review them hear yah?
subtle oracle
Will there be a sugg review channel anytime soon?
void kelp
this is sugg review
civic pond
huh
subtle oracle
That was included in rover's sugg i saw it
wooden wedge
waiting on mrpp for that iirc
void kelp
this is so hype
wooden wedge
just like
void kelp
this is like
void kelp
three channels: one for posting, one for voting, and one for reviewing
hollow shell
actually nvm Mrrp is dead
civic pond
sad!
hollow shell
@candid dove Can you open up #suggestions-posting to the public?
wooden wedge
damn mrrp is cookign again?
ashen warren
he's on phone so hopefully it's not too bad to open up to public
hollow shell
hopefully
candid dove
I'm on phone and was about to sleep
void kelp
perms on mobile are a bit wonky but they’re not impossible
candid dove
Lul
civic pond
o
civic pond
yeeees.
wooden wedge
candid dove
Should be open now, ye
wooden wedge
.,.,
hollow shell
Yeet
radiant meadow
god
wooden wedge
dear god
candid dove
Anyways, good night
radiant meadow
gnight
ashen warren
wooden wedge
gn danny
dapper coral
sleep well
hollow shell
Gnight
civic pond
Adios
molten dune
lit
hollow shell
Also
Great work with the bot Amber 👍
ashen warren
thank ye
hollow shell
Big appreciation
molten dune
👍
void kelp
reactions legend needs to be updated now
hollow shell
ye
dusty stirrup
o
void kelp
you can suggest it yourself iirc
wooden wedge
~~do all the pins now need to be updated to be from #suggestions-voting to #suggestions-posting ~~
sinful violet
sorry i died for a bit
hollow shell
s'fine
civic pond
ohhh
hollow shell
ahh
wooden wedge
because we can't even post in there
hollow shell
Should I remove Mrrp's pins about posting here first, considering we have posting as a middle man now?
void kelp
ye
void kelp
I think it’s a good practice to post here first
ashen warren
it is kinda odd now to post here first, only to post in posting to immediately go to voting
civic pond
I like the idea of posting here first imo
dapper coral
its probably a good idea to just see if its even worth putting in posting, but like do whatever i guess
hollow shell
And with that, I'll move the bluecheck cut-off date too!
Announcement:
The ☑️ (bluecheck) cut-off date has been moved from June 1st 2019 to November 1st 2019.
Suggestion concepts from prior to November 1st, 2019 are now able to be suggested again without being bluechecked.
dapper coral
or you can post in posting then come back an hour later to see what kind of nuclear fallout youve created
radiant meadow
I mean, do what you want I say
civic pond
oh good
radiant meadow
some people are going to post it straight into voting regardless
because what are pins???
dusty stirrup
It's still good practice to atleast discuss a bit here first, but I don't think it's as necessary anymore
ashen warren
they can't post into voting
ashen warren
denied
radiant meadow
time to post straight into voting and flex
radiant meadow
then do it anyways regardless of star count
you can call me bad, but if you call me bad, I ain't delivering sauce
🤫
ashen warren
bad termi
terse sundial
damn
civic pond
no more sauce
terse sundial
poor calamwiki will be barren again
civic pond
Also one thing i just realized is that people will have to see the dont's doc now
terse sundial
indeed
gray nebula
civic pond
unforunately that doesn't mean they'll read it but still
gray nebula
at least the voting channel will be free of brainlets
wooden wedge
skoores is no more
hollow shell
lol
gray nebula
digital saddle
that emoji is amazing
civic pond
godly
ashen warren
it should be added here iirc
gray nebula
yours truly
terse sundial
make it a suggestion iirc
wooden wedge
flak GOD
terse sundial
then make someone else do it
gray nebula
add emote because emote looks cool peepohappy
and because its related to the cool and new acid rain
civic pond
There seems to have been a spike in flak crab popularity lately
radiant meadow
I mean, there was my half ass reasoning to add 
civic pond
wait should I actually try and suggest it, i have reasoning i think
wooden wedge
just steal bens reason and then add it to the flak rave
radiant meadow
although
gray nebula
here's the file
civic pond
More animated emotes because we have only a few
It's recent and related to acid rain
b
ashen warren
so basically replace mushrave with this
hollow shell
@hearty yew @sinful violet @quiet abyss Can you update your pinned messages here to link to #suggestions-posting instead of #suggestions-voting?
(Ozza yours could prolly link to both, or generalize the language to mean suggs as a whole)
civic pond
possibly?
gray nebula
they can co-exist
terse sundial
indeed
wooden wedge
I like how
fervent zealot
i see sugmas have been reborn once again
wooden wedge
read the don'ts is in there 2 times
civic pond
yes they have
fervent zealot
~~with slowmode 
~~
ashen warren
GOD
civic pond
,
wooden wedge
amazing
sinful violet
look you all catch me at very bad times
civic pond
Its not you're fault mrrp.,,. probably
wooden wedge
stop cooking all then time then
sinful violet
i have to prepare dinner right now and the pots literally about to boil over
wooden wedge
4head
civic pond
Yep, cooking.
civic pond
hollow shell
I'm just gonna say to check out the rules pinned in #suggestions-voting
ashen warren
yeah that probably takes priority
hollow shell
good luck with the foob
hollow shell
aight
dapper coral
nom
sinful violet
updated my pin
hollow shell
don't forget your other identical pin
sinful violet
I'm gonna kill it yeah
hollow shell
the emphasis isn't really needed anymore
sinful violet
dead
ashen warren
hollow shell
RIP bold
sinful violet
I'll see what I have to update to the one in voting.
hollow shell
(btw Amber the deletion time was moved back to 24 hours, right?)
sinful violet
(Shouldn't that one go into posting anyway actually?)
Most of it pertains to actually posting stuff
ie don't reply to people in that channel
god that thing's old
civic pond
emote reasoning is cringe
wooden wedge
god doge
ashen warren
each suggestion gets deleted after 24 hours?
wooden wedge
⭐
civic pond
🤫
hollow shell
If they're unapproved
molten dune
DO NOT REPLACE MUSHRAVE
hollow shell
they get auto deleted
ashen warren
ok
molten dune
MUSHRAVE IS THE BEST EMOTE THAT I CANNOT USE
ashen warren
pretty sure
hollow shell
This seems like a decent suggestion hm yes
terse sundial
I think it is fine
wooden wedge
we can react in sugg posting
terse sundial
rover would you like to do the honors since I've already done it once
hollow shell
ah
wooden wedge
so I can
terse sundial
oh
civic pond
Epic.
hollow shell
Bot takes a second to delete
civic pond
Oh wow it uses the bold too
wooden wedge
boo.
civic pond
awesome job amber
quick ice
just gonna post this here since it's not worth putting in #suggestions-posting; Can you move #suggestions-posting above #suggestions-voting instead of below it?
terse sundial
yeah it will be fine that other people can click reactions
civic pond
pogu
hollow shell
ah, and autostarring didn't seem to occur?
@ashen warren
terse sundial
probably
molten dune
yes
terse sundial
120 indeed
radiant meadow
looks very nice Amber
hollow shell
Yeah that's the same for now
civic pond
alr
molten dune
wooden wedge
just gonna post this here since it's not worth putting in #suggestions-posting; Can you move #suggestions-posting above #suggestions-voting instead of below it?
why? I think it's fine the way it is
molten dune
this is the best emote besides fargos's echprime
ashen warren
oh did it not, i'll have to fix that then
wooden wedge
and it's easier to access
radiant meadow
so I can approve since I have react perms
Is that right?
civic pond
🤔
ashen warren
no
radiant meadow
ashen warren
you need the manage message permission for the bot to care about your reaction
radiant meadow
okay time to bully the bot
molten dune
this is so sad
radiant meadow
then that means I can use other reactions
hollow shell
cycle or whatever
radiant meadow
hollow shell
(if not then there's an issue)
ashen warren
oh did it not get deleted
radiant meadow
it's still there
ashen warren
yes it's supposed to be deleted instantly
hollow shell
uh oh
hollow shell
We'll just delete it manually for now 
terse sundial
yeah, its fine
wooden wedge
oh yeah we can't have fragmented suggs anymore now
hollow shell
ye
terse sundial
indeed
swift wadi
<><><><> is included with the #suggestions-posting pin
swift wadi
this was surely the greatest rework
terse sundial
only moderators+, amber, and rover can bypass the slowmode for now
karmic stone
Legendary
terse sundial
amber just because of previous testing
wooden wedge
you should've 😔
hollow shell
@mossy light Your legacy lives on.
radiant meadow
god
wooden wedge
poor dan getting meme pinged
sand umbra
new sugg system is here 
civic pond
pensivepog
vocal grotto
No more "suggestion ding dong ditch" iirc
civic pond
That's probably my favorite part.
ashen warren
it'll still happen but it goes nowhere
swift wadi
Now there are 3 suggestion channels, ah yes our empire grows
civic pond
ah thats good
ashen warren
@sinful violet #suggestions-posting bot needs manage message perms 
swift wadi
Soon #general-talk will be #general-talk_suggestions, where you can suggest a message to be sent to the chat and after a moderator approves it, it will be added to the conversation 
sinful violet
What's not working?
terse sundial
oh
wooden wedge
god
hollow shell
It works.
swift wadi
test funny
wooden wedge
test funny
terse sundial
not sure why it didn't work
void kelp
I gave it a single star
terse sundial
strange
hollow shell
I think we good
terse sundial
should be
civic pond
:wegud:
ashen warren
oh flak rave was submitted as a file
terse sundial
indeed
civic pond
no nitro iban posted it here earlier for me
ashen warren
fixed, the issue was with the custom handling of files i did to account for mobile being dum and allowing uploads of 10ish files in one go
ashen warren
that's that sorted
now to continue having the mod browser throw a fit while i try to update music mod
gray nebula
hollow shell
Ye its nice
ashen warren
one thing about this new suggestion system is that it removed Ethos bias
wooden wedge
now to continue having the mod browser throw a fit while i try to update music mod
oh so I can't kill that on the bugs doc, sad.
buoyant dock
may i suggest something regarding suggestion posting?
ashen warren
people wont just upvote because of who you are anymore
wooden wedge
is that a bad thing?
wooden wedge
it also killed a LOT of other things
buoyant dock
people can still see who posted the suggestion
hollow shell
Well I mean it still says who suggested it
but the names aren't colored anymore
ashen warren
people'd glance at a coloured name and lengthy suggestion and throw a star usually
yea
vocal grotto
Having people upvote based on the person- not the sugg is kind of a problem
ashen warren
ye
vocal grotto
It warps the general perception of the sugg
wooden wedge
I mean
buoyant dock
would it be possible to make the posting chat's posts be invisible to people other then mods?
ashen warren
i know
vocal grotto
Not colored tho 
earnest harness
that's one more click than most people are willing to do
ashen warren
but its not straight up showing ur roles
yeah but you need to click more than
exactly them
earnest harness
i mean people rarely read pins which are 1 click
ashen warren
i don't think there's a need for that cosmic, since having them be visible now allows for discussion here about them
buoyant dock
fair enough
dapper violet
give the suggestion bot a colored role so people upvote it
karmic stone
Sugg by Fabsol2 gets 120 stars in 7 minutes
hollow shell
Nah, look at the second [ ] line in the pin, B
Says that suggs posted prior to the rework still operate like they would in the previous system
ashen warren
"B"
buoyant dock
also i see a suggestion that's about to hit 120. you probably keep an eye for those but thought id mention it.
molten dune
if it hits 120 stars the bot auto-codes it into the game
zealous ridge
hollow shell
absolute horror
ashen warren
can any dev tell me if eternity was nerfed last update?
terse sundial
I don't remember seeing it get nerfed
vocal grotto
Nope
ashen warren
thx
wooden wedge
what
hollow shell
lol
Dek already out here breakin the rules
terse sundial
bravo
vocal grotto
mhm,vhjkvc
wooden wedge
@winged fiber are you ok
gray nebula
0head
winged fiber
I accidentally hit enter
terse sundial
edit your message
ashen warren
it's not even the first
wooden wedge
this is the third sugg
hollow shell
@winged fiber All in one message, please.
Also, irrelevant prefaces aren't allowed for suggs (especially now considering the first line of your suggestion is automatically detected as the header)
winged fiber
I typed in the actual suggestion now
winged fiber
Fixed
ashen warren
technically this was the first
hollow shell
Why should you need to go to the biome post-Plantera?
terse sundial
ah yes
ashen warren
mishibeta
gray nebula
that's oddly specific
winged fiber
Because it's an entire biome and it's just pointless past early-game
buoyant dock
you might have a point there but not all biomes have functionality the entier game
hollow shell
It gets good use post-DS and post-WoF
sleek wigeon
if you're a builder, why arent you using cheat sheet?
gray nebula
why specifically post plantera,,
quick ice
the Post-Plantera part is irrevelant, change it to "No Reason to go back to the biome at any point in the game post-Early-Hardmode"
hollow shell
and nah I don't think he means like a big dedicated builder
just like
a regular playthrough for someone who likes building
ashen warren
wikipedia
winged fiber
Yeah, I took Kran's suggestion
hollow shell
Aight now
elaborate on why it needs to be revisited, Dek
hollow shell
better
mossy light
ooooga
rugged belfry
Yeah, I did mean just a playthrough-builder.
mossy light
i betted 2 very expensive things and lost all of those 2 expensive things
dont gamble kids
buoyant dock
wrong chat buddy?
hollow shell
Nah I pinged him
mossy light
advice is for everywhere
buoyant dock
ah
hollow shell
tho this particular message isn't sugg-relevant lol
terse sundial
^
rugged belfry
Or just a builder that likes to find his building materials for some reason
hollow shell
Aight I think pinecone's suggestion is alright. Others?
quick ice
^
hollow shell
oki
patent nimbus
looks good
buoyant dock
dek why should you visit the sunken sea in mid hardmode onwards?
winged fiber
Rover, I'll be frank, it's kind of hard to think of a specfic reason aside from "it's an entire biome"
everything from overworld to hell needs to be revisited for something post-Moonlord, whether it's for materials for items/weapons or for the sake of there actually being new things there
quick ice
also for Deks Sugg, you could mention that every other Calamity biome has new content at multiple points in progression for the player to get to encourage them to return to its biomes while the Sunken Sea only gets new content at Hardmode
hollow shell
This itself is decent elaboration
winged fiber
Oh, okay
hollow shell
You could include some of this in your sugg
molten dune
sunken sea could get loot relating to post duke fishron stuff
rugged belfry
aa
molten dune
the death of the uber pigron causes more enemies and things to appear in the sunken sea
winged fiber
Yeah, just did
rugged belfry
Uber Pigron
hollow shell
wait what about Corruption/Crimson
buoyant dock
i was just about to say that
molten dune
uhh
winged fiber
Blood Relics come to mind
buoyant dock
blood relics arnt post ml
quick ice
only mention Calamity Biomes so you avoid the issue of Corruption/Crimson existing but not needing to
@winged fiber
hollow shell
well they're useful postML
winged fiber
^
buoyant dock
fair enough
quick ice
they are?
hollow shell
borbs
buoyant dock
borbs
winged fiber
It's the easiest way to make loads of potions too
molten dune
b0rbs?
hollow shell
You could just say "almost every biome"
quick ice
mb then
buoyant dock
and darksun to get ready for p2 yharon too
molten dune
what about desert