suggestions-discussion

[errant wren]

Can someone get me some water?
I choked on my spit

[vocal wedge]

Wait you can do that?
Why did nobody tell me?

[craggy girder]

わあ、見てこれ！この翻訳ツールを使えば、日本語が話せるぞ。

これを読んでいるということは、君は「A. 日本語が話せる」か、あるいは「B. 君もGoogle翻訳のようなツールを使っている」かのどちらかだね。すごいじゃないか！素敵な一日を。あと、今日は「Horrible Hog（ホリブル・ホグ）」を祝うのを忘れないでね。

[limber drift]

Its epic and means I don't have to rip my hair out farming blinkroots
God I hate farming blinkroots they suck so bad

[kind laurel]

He Wasn't Supposed To Know
Quinn you traitor

[fossil finch]

youre alll fucking suggestion larpers btw

[vocal wedge]

Speak English in this server.
It's in the rules.

[craggy girder]

my fault !

[vocal wedge]

I don't care.
You're cringe.

[fossil finch]

where the FUCK are your ❓ where the FUCK are your <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><>

[limber drift]

I May be Cringe
But to be cringe is to be free

[errant wren]

Aren't we all?
nevermind you edited the message

[vocal wedge]

Add crossover content with Doki Doki Literature Club.
I can think of no other options that would be more appropriate for a crossover.

[craggy girder]

Apple bottom jeans (jeans)
Boots with the fur (the fur)

She got the whole club looking at her (lookin at her)

[kind laurel]

This Bit Has Been Going On For FOUR HOURS
Peak

[limber drift]

Make it so on computer pressing enter will actually like start a new paragraph in Discord
Its really annoying when I accidentally press enter without holding shift and it ends up like ruining everything

[errant wren]

She hit the floor
Next thing you know

[fossil finch]

im sorry this is a you thing

its useful to have both commands accesible through a keystroke

[limber drift]

Put the Freedom Motif in Storm Weaver's Theme
Like according to the devs once they're the boss which it makes the most sense for

[fossil finch]

train yourself to prevent this

[vocal wedge]

Please just resprite Yharon.
How hard could it possibly be to make a sprite and then animate the wings flapping? Surely you do not need to make each sprite individually by hand, right? Just use AI, duh.

[kind laurel]

Add the Freedom Motif To Every Theme In The Mod
Self-Explanatory

[limber drift]

They should at least add a setting to change it
Like some people would prefer it a different way

[vocal wedge]

Make Yharim more cool and awesome by making him a despotic slave owner.
This obviously doesn't contradict a thing.

[limber drift]

Nuh-uh some bosses don't make sense with it
Like uhhhhh Crabulon aint free neither is cryogen, etc

[kind laurel]

Make Yharim Tell Everyone He's Homophobic In The Awakening Lore Item
This important information that players should know from the start

[fossil finch]

dude youre plagiarizing vaemas dad

dude

[keen zodiac]

the mushrooms are free to pilot the crab's corpse

[limber drift]

Make Yharim Tell Everyone He's Homosexual In The Awakening Lore Item
This important information that players should know from the start

[vocal wedge]

Who the hell is Vaema's dad.
Nobody gets this reference.

[fossil finch]

not my fault you people dont got elite ball knowledge

[vocal wedge]

Make Yharim Tell Everyone He's Yharim In The Awakening Lore Item.
This important information that players should know from the start.

[limber drift]

Wait true Calamity does make Glowing Mushrooms Free doesn't it
Like they sell for 0 coins because calamity is dumb and stupid and I hate that why

[craggy girder]

Then Gandalf the Grey and Gandalf the White
And Monty Python and the Holy Grail's Black Knight
And Benito Mussolini, and the Blue Meanie
And Cowboy Curtis and Jambi The Genie
Robocop, the Terminator, Captain Kirk, and Darth Vader
Lo Pan, Superman
Every single Power Ranger™
Bill S. Preston and Theodore Logan
Spock, The Rock, Doc Ock and Hulk Hogan

[kind laurel]

Add Suggestions Discussion
Players deserve to know what sophisticated conversation is happening here in-game

[errant wren]

Elite Ball Knowledge doesn't mean making stuff up
(this is a joke)

[vocal wedge]

Remove Murasama.
Nobody even uses this garbage weapon anyway.

[limber drift]

Let me get a donor item
Like what if I payed the devs like uhhhh $100 could I get one then pretty please

[craggy girder]

KILLLLLL DAEDALUS.
DROP HIM OFFA BRIDGE. KILL HIM. DEATH.

[fossil finch]

actually daedalus cimbed the miracle tower

[errant wren]

Can I be referenced in a tooltip somewhere?
I think I've contributed enough to this channel

[limber drift]

Make Daedalus into Calamity's Gaster
Make him mentioned a lot but only in random events that only like 10% of playthroughs will see and leave him ambigious in like who he is

[vocal wedge]

Add more immersive mechanics.
Your character should have a chance to be born with disabilities to encourage replayability, like being blind.

[craggy girder]

Break all of the Terrarian's bones
Signed, Yharon

[limber drift]

Make Blindfolds blind the player
Why do they not blind the player? are they stupid

[vocal wedge]

Renamed Blindfolds to Tibetan Monk Blindfolds.
It's obviously a technique picked up from Tibetan Monks to see without seeing.

[tepid crown]

theyre like one of those shitty ones u can see through cheaters use to fake blindfolded runs

[craggy girder]

Runs*
It's spelled runs

[limber drift]

Change the name of Blindfold to "those shitty ones u can see through cheaters use to fake blindfolded runs"
Self Explanatory

[tepid crown]

Fuck Off
✨Bitch.✨

[tepid crown]

sob

[errant wren]

Language
No fucking swearing

[vocal wedge]

Allow us to find Calamitas' old racist tweets.
As an alternate means to defeat her, we should be able to find and threaten to leak her controversial statements about fish people.

[tepid crown]

You're on thin fucking ice, buddy!
-# oh no

[limber drift]

Make a place for people to Submit random names for the new Piggy Town Pet
Itd be neat if the community could all submit their own ideas for potential names for the piggies :D

[tepid crown]

Make a place for people to submit titles for the Horrible Hog
He has many titles, and what better way to collect them from the consciousness of all humans?

[vocal wedge]

Add a 'previously on Calamity' cutscene after every boss to recap the story.
Some of you TikTok brained, illiterate fools need this.

[craggy girder]

Add Fanny, Evil Fanny, Miracle Boy, That One Brainrotted Guy I Don't Actually Know His Name, TrapperBulb-Chan, and the Avatar of Emptiness to Calamity
Why are they not here already? Are the developers lazy?

[errant wren]

Add a "Previously on Calamity" every time you kill an enemy
Sometimes you need a reminder

[vocal wedge]

Make it so that using Calamity Overhaul just straight up kills you.
It is time to take action.

[limber drift]

**I think his name was like Crim Son or something I don't fuly remember, **
but you forgot renault the car one too, so add them too

[craggy girder]

Play a random soundbyte from any of the developers' downloads folder whenever an enemy does or experiences any verb
Yippee!

[kind laurel]

Make Calamity Overhaul A Dependancy
Self-Explanatory, it's practically mandatory for a fun playthrough

[vocal wedge]

Make Beowulf canon.
I only read the kids version it's probably fine to just do that.

[limber drift]

Some of my own name suggestions for the piggy town pet:
Reuben (Minecraft Story mode reference), Chris P Bacon, Porky (loony Toons), John pork, Yharham, Ms Piggy (Muppets), Peppa, George, daddy pig, mummy pig and whatever the new baby pig from peppa pig is called, pih, and Cow

[errant wren]

Add Mrs. Dalloway as an NPC
She could have a soliloquy after every boss kill

[vocal wedge]

Add a partially deaf character to Calamity.
We cannot be surpassed by PEPPA PIG of all things.

[glass arch]

this bit sucks im not sorry

[craggy girder]

Fire every single person not labeled as "developer" in their job description from the developer team
Why are they here?

[vocal wedge]

Who the hell is Mrs. Dalloway.
Nobody knows these obscure American characters.

[craggy girder]

Send this user to the Sun
Mr. Principal Send Him To The Principal's Office And Have Him Expelled!

[errant wren]

It's a literary classic
Like Beowulf

[glass arch]

FOOL dalloway is british

[vocal wedge]

How am I meant to know.
I'm not British.

[glass arch]

you should know your culture

[keen zodiac]

yes you
are

[vocal wedge]

Remove Britain.
Not even because people call me British it's just overdue.

[errant wren]

I'm not british either
granted, i am taking a class in english literature

[craggy girder]

Do you guys know that one thing from the place with the other thing
Y'know the thing thats near the place with the other place and has things in it. That one.

[vocal wedge]

Yeah, the thing, with the guy.
The one with the hair, next to the thing.

[errant wren]

Ohh like the uhhh
Nevermind it might be the other one

[glass arch]

anyways yeah this bit still sucks can we maybe stop

[craggy girder]

the bit devolved from actual suggestions to now kinda just being footnotes

which, while funny, is not suggestions-discussion

[vocal wedge]

Sorry you hate fun.
Man I should sleep.

[kind laurel]

A mod said they'd step in once an actual suggestion is posted
Do what you must

[errant wren]

Have some whimsy
or just make an actual sugg i think a mod said that

[craggy girder]

Oh god he's typing a suggestion
We're all doomed

[kind laurel]

Finally
This has been going on for four and a half hours

[vocal wedge]

Remove Yharon.
Make the Twitter furries suffer.

[errant wren]

My time has come
or i guess ours

[craggy girder]

What
What
-# What

what do you mean 4 1/2 hours

[errant wren]

mods can you lock #suggestions-posting for no particular reason
i think it'd be a little funny

[vocal wedge]

I have two Calamitas plushies.
But only one microwave. How do I deal with this issue?

[tame vigil]

buy another microwave

[kind laurel]

First Joke Suggestion Was 4:56 PM EST
It's now 9:35 PM EST

[vocal wedge]

Good idea.
I can microwave both of her now!

[errant wren]

The soup is cold but the salad is hot
How is that even possible

[craggy girder]

Holy Fucking Shit
Calfans when they need to keep a bit alive: Ten-hut, yessir!

[vocal wedge]

The vulture waits to see what rots.
Oh how pretty, all the scenery.

[kind laurel]

Okay bit's officially over

[errant wren]

it's over

[craggy girder]

bits over

yeah i agree with this

either rework it or toss it into the scraps pile

[vocal wedge]

Frankly I don't see why there's a particular incentive to remove that particular weapon.

[errant wren]

i'm indifferent

[tame vigil]

i still need to rework this thing

[drowsy plank]

we gonna move swordsplosion to prehm with the folly retier

[glass arch]

i was reminded of its existence earlier

[craggy girder]

actually that would be funny

make it use the custom sword swing effect and act like Vanishing Point

or like Conference Call

or actually kinda like Greatsword of Judgement/Orderbringer

[glass arch]

from a pretty fundamental standpoint swordsplosion is uninteresting and also even in the game its from it isnt a melee weapon

[frail fox]

Unchanged too

Then make it ranger for grape beer

[glass arch]

(in borderlands 2 swordsplosion is a shotgun that shoots exploding swords. wow. how deeply intriguing.)

[flat rain]

i joked about removing swordsplosion because it felt like a filler weapon

yet i've never used it

[lucid marsh]

Calamity has lots of weapons as bad as swordsplosion

[craggy girder]

monkeys paw curls: its a ranged weapon with melee damage

[lucid marsh]

Calamity devs love keeping stupid joke weapons unchanged for years despite suggestions

(see burning sky)

[flat rain]

can we get the rustrifle from souls

[glass arch]

fun fact terratomere used to be this but reversed

[craggy girder]

what the fuck

[glass arch]

it was a melee weapon it scaled off melee damage it was for all intents and purposes melee

[flat rain]

didn't it also fire a sword beam instead of three homing bolts

[tepid crown]

me when i accidentally set a projectile as ranged instead of melee

[glass arch]

but the explosions damage was internally ranged. this had literally no effect on it in gameplay. but it was ranged damage and not melee

[tepid crown]

and no one notices

actually there would be an effect in gameplay but also u wouldnt notice nor were there many applications

like uhh. storm weaver phase 2, you wouldnt inflict the gauntlet debuffs on as many of the segments as u think u would

and...

thats literally it i think

[craggy girder]

didnt vivid clarity do somethign similar

[glass arch]

i dont think so

[craggy girder]

its explosions were rogue i thought

[novel belfry]

well its a doobie sugg

i am obligated to counterract doobie's endless desire to cleanse calamity of extraneous weaponry by posting a "Rework Swordplosion" sugg

[glass arch]

this is addressed in the suggestion

any real rework to swordsplosion can be instead done to one of the other star wrath clones because there isnt a real distinction between them aside from tiering and theming

(and even then the theming is wack as fuck)

[drowsy plank]

calamity should do a weapon popularity poll

that way we can finally have some actual data on why it's okay to remove swordsplosion

[crude geode]

Disagree bc that would justify murasama and i don’t want to hear any justification for the most reference weapon to ever reference

[drowsy plank]

murasama already has a reworked planned and will probably get renamed at this rate

[lucid marsh]

There's so goddamn much garbage weapons in the mod

Burning Sky! It's right there!

Kill it! The joke isn't funny!

[craggy girder]

True actually!!

i love stats

[novel belfry]

eh

doobie is right swordsplosion might not need saving

instead

im gonna demand a rework

for lifehunt scythe and essence flayer

[vocal wedge]

Please God it would be really funny.

[tepid crown]

its hilarious actually

[deft yew]

it's funny if it doesn't stay in the mod as a serious normal item

like it's funny For Now

[lucid marsh]

Thing is

[deft yew]

giving murasama an original name would genuinely remove like half the problem

[lucid marsh]

It has stayed in the mod as a serious normal item for what, 5 years minimum?,

[deft yew]

also wait

[fleet grotto]

my phaseslayer suggestion is getting real

[deft yew]

@drowsy plank rework planned? is there a more recent one i haven't heard of or did you mean the infamously complicated dia one?

[lucid marsh]

A decade

[drowsy plank]

i was talking about the one mura posted a video of

if those plans have been canned then i was out of the loop

[lucid marsh]

Burning Sky has been sitting there unchanged for. DECADE

[deft yew]

so yeah, the infamously complicated dia one

[glass arch]

anyways i do think bsky existing was fine before it got ranged reforges

[lucid marsh]

https://calamitymod.wiki.gg/wiki/1.1.6.16

Mostly unchanged anyways. The basic concept is the same

[glass arch]

it wasnt a good weapon but it also wasnt an egregious joke

[lucid marsh]

It's an egregious joke by virtue of being the only yharon melee weapon besides that weird stick you spin around

[fleet grotto]

this is genuinely the change ever

moreso the reasoning of hive mind getting stronger but still 4 damage is

[lucid marsh]

Oh I think you're misunderstanding, it was already being buffed post moon lord from some low number to 100

[deft yew]

that is what they said

[fleet grotto]

i will say that at first I misunderstood it

[novel belfry]

@glass arch im debating whether to add essence flayer to my sugg, but i reckon you might just also want that thing gone

if i had the choice to decide what to do with it id make it reworked as a upgrade to a reworked lifehunt scythe

[glass arch]

i flat forgot essence flayer exists

i got my vitriol out with swordsplosion you can chuck it in if you want

[drowsy plank]

wait you mean you forgot about one of the 8 pure cosmilite weapons

how could you jacob they're all so iconic like uh

the yoyo

the sword(s?)

[glass arch]

sword singular one of them died iirc

[drowsy plank]

ok good that's progress

[crude geode]

do we really still need 5 cosmilite melee weapons

[glass arch]

cosmilite definitely needs a whole lot of culling but im too lazy to try to make a case for which ones should and shouldnt be culled

[drowsy plank]

me and my four purple sticks

[tepid crown]

the yoyo is a dog drop not a craft

[drowsy plank]

WHO CARES!!!!!!!!!

[crude geode]

at least one of them is a mage weapon byeah. too much

[drowsy plank]

you get how that makes this even worse right

[glass arch]

i think the second two are both mage right

[crude geode]

no

shiv/shortsword

[fleet grotto]

iedont even know if i remember the fjrst one lmao

[glass arch]

first one is scourge of the cosmos

the scourge of the corruptor cosmilite upgrade

[glass arch]

ok it was just the third

[fleet grotto]

Oh yeah I haven't touched that weapon in years

[drowsy plank]

calling this one "name that Cosmilite weapon"
can you list all 8 weapon names in order and what classes they belong to

[frail fox]

Yes

[fleet grotto]

summoner mage melee melee rogue melee mage melee

[tepid crown]

you can tell its scourge of the cosmos because its the only one that looks different because its the only one that people care for!

[drowsy plank]

LOL

[crude geode]

trick question the first two aren't cosmilite

[frail fox]

True

[fleet grotto]

go my purple stick of stickiness

[crude geode]

does that mean that deathhail staff deserves to exist? probably not

[glass arch]

void marionette, summoner
hyperdeath scepter(? unsure if thats its name or not), mage
cosmic shiv, melee
essence flayer, melee
executioners blade, rogue
scourge of the cosmos, melee
soul piercer, mage
stream gouge, melee

[fleet grotto]

hyperdeath rift scepter

[tepid crown]

hyperdeath rift scepter

[fleet grotto]

typo

i lose

[glass arch]

close enough

[fleet grotto]

[drowsy plank]

the only set more homogenous than DoG's is astral

[crude geode]

[tepid crown]

thats crazy tbh

[glass arch]

no at least astral you can tell which class is which most of the time

[fleet grotto]

unironically cosmilite/dog's might be worse imo

[crude geode]

yeah honestly

[drowsy plank]

you know what that's actually entirely true

[fleet grotto]

astral can be crafted into things just as if it's an early hardmode bar like orichalcum

it has all the things

tools and basic weaponstuffs

[glass arch]

astral is by no means good but at least it has distinctive design elements between items that communicate the idea of the item

[crude geode]

I'm so brainrotted from sts2 that I kept thinking of orichalcum as green and was like. there's no early hardmode ore set that's green

[drowsy plank]

oh thank god they cut it in half

[glass arch]

there is actually its mythril

[fleet grotto]

yeah lol

[drowsy plank]

now they just need to make them actually interesting

[crude geode]

not as green as sts1/2 orichalcum

[fleet grotto]

holy shit two green

[crude geode]

🟢

[fleet grotto]

🟩 🟢

[glass arch]

but like cosmilite i thought stream gouge was a mage weapon initially, scourge of the cosmos looks nearly identical to soul piercer and/or void marionette

[fleet grotto]

the green square has more green than the green circle. but despite this, you still get more green overall by having both. this is beautiful

[crude geode]

stream gouge is just not a weapon that's distinctive bc there's so much oversaturation of dog weapons

[glass arch]

this is undertale writing

[crude geode]

[fleet grotto]

not the ending

[tepid crown]

thats the one with the portals i think yes right? idk man these names fuck me over i only know the obvious ones like essence flayer

[fleet grotto]

this is the best compliment I have ever received when it comes to my shitmessages

[crude geode]

yep

[tepid crown]

ok

just like put the portal gimmick in scourge of the cosmos or whatever

[fleet grotto]

another weapon with a dash attack

[tepid crown]

theyre both already thrown melee weapons

[glass arch]

itll be better than whatever the fuck this is

[tepid crown]

might as well combine them

[deft yew]

stream gouge is not thrown

at least not physically

[tepid crown]

scourge of the corruptor but ourpler and blue and also really really fast!

[tepid crown]

dies

whatever just proves my point on how even less interesting it is

and also scourge of the cosmos not having anything to do with dog aside from what are basically just resprited mini eaters is sad and it should stop being sad

so yknow give it portals

[glass arch]

give it fireballs

[tepid crown]

explode yourself.

[deft yew]

so yknow you could remove it

[half imp]

I'm pretty sure at least 3 different devs have ideas for swordsplosion I don't think it's gonna die

[half imp]

I should rework it

It's not donor right

[deft yew]

you could remo

[half imp]

No

[deft yew]

(it's not)

[tepid crown]

nope

not donor

[half imp]

all the dungeon chests have upgrades (ignore tiger)

[glass arch]

faith incinerator projectile is a fireball its thematically consistent

[fleet grotto]

doze you're the summoner guy you can change that

[crude geode]

can we kill stream gouge and essence flayer at least

[half imp]

Idk and no (plans)

[crude geode]

tragic

500 melee reworks

[fleet grotto]

Essence flayer is unfortunately a lamer death's ascension

[tepid crown]

also like

why is stream gouge called stream gouge

[half imp]

There was talk about replacing excelsus with stream Gouge

but like

Then maw of Infinity happened

[craggy girder]

what upgrade could dt even get

[half imp]

fearmonger set minion

(move Endo Hydra to sentry)

[craggy girder]

post dog eclipse summon

[half imp]

(ignore corvid)

[craggy girder]

based on the dog that chases the moon i think

[tepid crown]

sand shark minion that eventually becomes a giant great sand shark idk

[glass arch]

i think endo hydra being the way it currently is is good

makes it not feel like its just hey we have this thing you used to have its almost identical but we gave it more projectiles

[tepid crown]

frost hydra is a sentry of all time.

[half imp]

my one change would be make it use sentry slots and not follow you

Otherwise I'd leave Endo Hydra the same

[crude geode]

forbidden sun be like

[lucid marsh]

Also hey that reminds me

The last single slot minion that other classes can use as support

Is that stupid raven

Because other ones cost multiple slots

Oh maybe there's also another one I'm forgetting?

Anyways there should be an auric tier single slot minion

[glass arch]

theres the fuckin darksun thing isnt there

[indigo yacht]

midnight sun beacon

[lucid marsh]

Oh right

I always forget about that. Oops

Nevermind then lol

[indigo yacht]

also saros i think

[glass arch]

saros can be single slot yeah

same with void eater marionette and endo hydras

[lucid marsh]

Void eater marionette is really cool but it's so flashy that it distracts from everything else on screen

[limber drift]

What about heavenfallen star disk

[glass arch]

fake weapon not real

[half imp]

vigilance

[lucid marsh]

Can you really count the Calamitas weapons? They all have crazy downsides

[tepid crown]

they dont tho

[half imp]

no?

none of her drops have downsides

[limber drift]

Thats the exhumed items with the downsides right

[half imp]

yeah

also

ares exoskeleton only takes 3 slots

so it can fit as a support too

[limber drift]

Calamity should add more minions like Abigail and desert tiger where repeated summons make the original one stronger cos calamity basically doesn’t have any right

[flat rain]

aside from saros possession and it's components and the void eater marionette
i don't think there are any more

[half imp]

calamity adds 5-6 of them

depending on if you count abandoned slime staff

[fleet grotto]

why wouldn't ass count :(

[half imp]

its only summoned once

[fleet grotto]

oh

[limber drift]

I didn’t actually realise that the sun spirit staff line actually got stronger with repeat summons, like is it a new thing or what

[half imp]

it just eats all remaining slots

2.1

[fleet grotto]

oh i thought it got bigger on consecutive summons

im

eats a crab

[limber drift]

Why does abandoned slime staff work like that though as in consuming all remaining minion slots immediately

[half imp]

old

[fossil finch]

Yuh

It's okay yuh will rework it in one million billion years

[fleet grotto]

astral slime should get another weapon drop post aureus because ass is a donor item

iirc

!

[limber drift]

That does feel like something that maybe should be like made more uniform functionality wise so it works like the other minions like it

[half imp]

donor item moment

i mean

[fleet grotto]

quite the comical acronym…

[fossil finch]

At yuh rework your weapon

[half imp]

@hollow idol what if i made ASS scale on repeat summon instead of consuming all at once

[fleet grotto]

after all the kamikaze fuckers already can drop 2 weapons

due to donorweapon

[lucid marsh]

damnit

[hollow idol]

[half imp]

ok

[hollow idol]

thats what i originally wanted it to be like

[half imp]

someday i'll do that then

[vocal wedge]

Pro Tip: Use double asterisks to bold text.

[humble scarab]

cant you type what number you want in the configs?

[plush flame]

pretty sure yeah

[indigo yacht]

this seems kind of pointless

[plush flame]

also wouldnt this be a change to tmod's mod config settings

[glass arch]

yeah this would be a tmod change afaik not a cal change

[indigo yacht]

i think you could possibly make your own custom config thing

but that's a lot of work for next to no benefit

[half imp]

@vestal cosmos this is a tmodloader thing, not a calamity thing

[fleet grotto]

Can't you also like click/double click on the numbers to type manually

[half imp]

Ye

[fleet grotto]

@vestal cosmos good thing to note btw

[obsidian nova]

Literally 2023

[keen zodiac]

whar

[glass arch]

thats not what this is

like it just isnt

[fleet grotto]

meld blobs and meld constructs have no notable differences

outside of constructs being used to craft things ofc

[glass arch]

meld constructs NEVER functioned as any sort of game lengthener

[fleet grotto]

thank you moderator

[glass arch]

genuinely the only reason they still exist is the part where they used to be a bar

its just turning what was for all intents and purposes a really shitty ore and bar into a regular dropped material

[oblique birch]

I like Meld Constructs sprite more than Meld Blobs

[tame vigil]

they're both gone

[deft yew]

👁️

[tepid crown]

is this feal or rake

[craggy girder]

its feef and raar

or laal and keek

[oblique birch]

is this feal or rake

[tame vigil]

i realize that could be misinterpteted

meld blobs are still a thing, but neither of the sprites are the same

[oblique birch]

😱

[kind laurel]

Was the removal of meld constructs planned before I suggested it?

[vestal cosmos]

Oh.. I never knew lmao

[grave zinc]

@tiny wave - Your suggestion has received an updated status!

[Build Supreme Witch Calamitas up as a character more before you fight her at the end]

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[tiny wave]

from the sounds of it a lot of people didn't like my idea much lmao

[grave zinc]

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[Rename Invisible Dye to Echo Dye]

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[Change Plaguebringer Goliath's attack pattern so that it cannot constantly spam two moves]

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[Prevent Minecart tracks from going through the bottom of the Vernal Pass]

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[Rename Mourningstar]

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[limber drift]

Yay

[grave zinc]

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[limber drift]

(its okay devs you can do whatever you want I just am a Tad Sorrowful)

[lucid marsh]

:(

[limber drift]

YIPEEE! KILL THAT FISH (or rework it)!

[limber drift]

I do wonder if it does get renamed what it would be changed to

[tiny wave]

sorry im late on this response, got busy with life. but the main reason i suggested this is to give Calamitas more presence considering she kinda just shows up at the end of the game. I lowkey forgot I even suggested it the next day lmao

the problem that i mainly saw was that its like having a character you just introduced into a book already finishing up their redemption arc

not sure redemption is the right word but i think you get the point

[grave zinc]

@indigo yacht - Your suggestion has received an updated status!

[Clarify that Odd Mushroom is an epilepsy risk]

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[keen zodiac]

wtf

[limber drift]

The reason it can’t be implemented must actually be that they’re killing all the heart of the elementals

[craggy girder]

idk why hellkite gets to glow and make a fun noise but gilded probo just kinda wiggles

@river oracle this happens with a lot of other bosses quite often, idk why dog would get a specific

[plush flame]

#suggestions-posting message dog spawns its loot on the segment closest to the player

[craggy girder]

this too

[river oracle]

Feels like it's always the head for some reason...

-# either ways...

Still better if it spawns the bag onto player...

[half imp]

proboscis doesn't encourage full charge because it's not meant to be used at full charge

[keen zodiac]

it still feels quite underwhelming to use imo

[craggy girder]

yeah

[half imp]

But yeah

[keen zodiac]

especially for a post moonlord weapon

[craggy girder]

its, as stated, kinda sauceless

[half imp]

it could get a sparkle except I have no time

[craggy girder]

make it spam dust

[keen zodiac]

make xyk do it

[half imp]

all the sauce is on the right click which is where the real power is anyway

[craggy girder]

isnt

that the charge?

[half imp]

left click is charge

[craggy girder]

i thought the dashswing was kinda not awesome

bc its. a dashswing

[half imp]

it's significantly more powerful than the charge attack in terms of raw dps

also the charge endlag can cancel into it

noting that in the tooltip is something I still need to do

[keen zodiac]

both attacks just. don't feel good to me idk

[half imp]

but I have too much to do

[keen zodiac]

tragic

[half imp]

it sounds like you're just not proboscis target audience tbh

proboscis is built for those who want to play close and precise

it's definitely the most difficult true melee to use around that tier

at least, if you want to get anywhere near its max mileage

if you're just using one of the clicks alone it feeling a little underwhelming makes sense because that's only half the weapon

[craggy girder]

curse upon ye: Crunch Time

no but legit sending prayers your way

[oblique birch]

the sfxs could be changed to be more meaty than currents

give it more of that striking zap flavour

[lucid marsh]

Related topic:

I wish we had more melee weapons that don't have any projectiles but instead are just really big

Imagine a shortsword or spear the size of the screen

[novel belfry]

that wouldnt be a shortsword

that would be a shitlongsword

[limber drift]

A really long spear would actually be a really funny weapon I’ll say

[hollow shell]

#suggestions-posting message
please, please yes

[whole tundra]

It's been so flipping long but finally, a suggestion of mine gets in via the dev server vote

[lucid marsh]

I'm curious what the reasoning for this not being implemented was?

[oblique birch]

1 more change to make Yharon less glorp 🥹

[indigo yacht]

yippee

[indigo yacht]

are we seriously keeping the two duplicate weapons

[worthy lintel]

choosing a world evil is already an illusion of choice

so at this point duplicates are fair game

[indigo yacht]

they're not even world evil specific

just random

[worn elk]

just make every boss treasure bag put directly into your inventory

[neat linden]

can't they just b like, combined into one weapon,,,,

every other summon spawns the other color of the slime

[indigo yacht]

you would think so

[neat linden]

I'm wondering what the reasoning for the 'no' was :<

[ripe owl]

this is a non-issue as there's literally code that specifically makes THE CLOSEST SEGMENT TO THE PLAYER to drop the bag instead of the head like in vanilla

[elder beacon]

just because that code exists doesn't mean dog uses it

[drowsy plank]

@calm knot wouldn't it make more sense to reduce the spawn rate after DoG and not polter?

you need the bloodworms to be able to fight old duke who is a post polter boss

The spawn rate of Bloodworms is halved after The Old Duke has been encountered once during the Acid Rain event.

nvm im literally just flagging this because it's wrong

spawn rates are already reduced post-duke

and reducing them post-polter is just dumb

[calm knot]

oh wow

my bad

yeah you can get rid of this one yowch

[drowsy plank]

it's fine just do some research next time imo

[calm knot]

i would but i have no idea where to look for half of the stuff

[drowsy plank]

the wiki...?

i found that line on the bloodworm wiki page

[calm knot]

oh

well

good to know

[fleet grotto]

okay guys how's my suggestion

Make Amidias not panic in water

This Bitch Ass Seahorse man is capable of breathing in water, but he HATES being in it. He acts like he's gonna drown! Oh no!! Someone help me!! But he CAN'T DROWN. He's just LYING. It's SILLY and makes NO SENSE.

[calm knot]

that's a good one

i agree with it

also very hard to get him to shop after you free him

[indigo yacht]

honestly that could be an oversight and go in #1052323733961977947

[obsidian nova]

Okay, so it looks like for this week, the passing suggestions will be crags pylon, deerclops boss rush, eol rogue weapon and amidias help dialogue

[vocal wedge]

Sickness is actually a category of debuff in Calamity.

For some reason, Calamity adds a type system, but only for debuffs.

Sickness is one of the types.

To be fair, there is no indication as to which debuffs are which type, only as to which enemies are weak to which debuff.

Like, Burning Blood and Whispering Death is Sickness type.

[drowsy plank]

to be fair, do we really want elemental weapon types to come back?

i think the debuff types are fine because they allow accessories to interact with debuffs without them all just being orichalc enchant from fargos and making One Debuff (aka the strongest one) super strong

[grave zinc]

@tiny wave - Your suggestion has received an updated status!

[Build Supreme Witch Calamitas up as a character more before you fight her at the end]

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[indigo yacht]

@terse crown calamity adds an elemental system for debuffs where most debuffs fall into one of 5 categories, sickness is one such category
changing the wording would likely end up just making the item confusing for people who do understand the system, so i would suggest changing the suggestion to be a way for people to find out what element type a debuff is or something along those lines

[kind laurel]

Is fixing killing one evil boss flagging both for lore item drops a #1052323733961977947 or #suggestions-posting thing

[kind laurel]

@drowsy plank

sorry if I wasn't supposed to ping a mod

but I feel like it's a moderator question

[drowsy plank]

uhhhhhh

i think
hm

im not sure actually but i think that's prolly an unintended side effect of stuff like having both bosses show as completed in boss checklist when you do one and stuff

i might be wrong

the fact i dont know if this is a bug or not means it should prolly just go in #1052323733961977947

they can redirect u here if it's intended

[tepid crown]

you know what would be awesome

if individual checks for eow and boc just natively existed in tmod

instead of having a mod do it

because like. lets say any mod that just has a bit of content related to the world evil bosses as seperate in any minor way. every mod would have to be implementing checks for that

[kind laurel]

Even if it's not a clientside thing do I still need a log file

[limber drift]

One thing with the spawning treasure bags on the player thing it would probably have to have a way to account for it a player is dead while the boss died, like where would their treasure bags spawn

[indigo yacht]

where they died probably

i don't think you'd have to account for that

if you spawn the item on the players x and y coordinates I don't think it matters if they're currently alive or not

[bright crag]

TLDR, we will give SCal buildup, just not in this exact way

[indigo yacht]

is she going to start wearing high heels

[limber drift]

Yeah that would probably still work (except maybe like when the player dies from falling down from the bottom of the world and sky in remix/getfixedboi but like that shouldn’t matter too much)

[indigo yacht]

well

isn't that like

already a problem for the normal drop method regardless

of it falling off the world?

[limber drift]

I mean yeah but if the player dies from that where would the items drop

Cos like the drops in the case of falling out from the bottom of the world would mean the items instantly get deleted instead of the boss specifically having to die above like a gap there

[hollow shell]

Renaming our "Sickness" category to "Disease", perhaps?
#suggestions-posting message

I agree that the word "Sickness" is kinda loaded considering Potion Sickness is such an important mechanic

[craggy girder]

id like that

tbh sickness is a really vague topic that encompasses both chemical damage (if i threw acid at someone) and viral attack (if a bacteria invaded)

[indigo yacht]

the word disease is prone to the same problem of generality

a disease is just an abnormal bodily condition

[craggy girder]

hence my tbh premention

both sickness and disease are not exaaactly what it wants as a whole but disease sounds a bit better than sickness (and works wit the sugg)

[royal tapir]

This suggestion is irrelevant because Honey Dew no longer does this

[craggy girder]

that too

[limber drift]

I do kind of feel like disease like while probably not important, wouldn’t fully be correct for some of the debuffs in its category such as like poison and acid venom but like again people would probably assume it would be in the category

[half imp]

debuff types are specified in the expanded tooltip infos

[tame vigil]

debuff types will be a lot more transparent next update, yeah

[royal tapir]

Debuff types are also already listed in the bestiary

[limber drift]

I did just think of a suggestion Idea and was wondering if anyone else thought it would be a good thing to potentially suggest or not

Rework Some of the +1 Minion Slots & Minions Inflict X Debuff Accessories, to Add More Actual Variety
Calamity gives summoner a lot of accessories a lot of accessories that give the player +1 minion slots and either directly cause minions to inflict a debuff or cause minion hits to sometimes spawn a projectile that inflicts a debuff on hit, with there being 4 accessories that do this. I feel like some of these accessories could definitely be reworked since as is they all feel very bland and overly similar, and could be changed to actually utilise summoner's other tools such as whips and sentries, both of which distinctly lack many buffing accessories from calamity, such as making whip tag effects to cause minion hits to inflict the debuff, or making sentries have an aura that inflicts the debuff, potentially with the added minion slot being replaced with whip stat increases or sentry slots if changed to focus around those specific weapon types.

[tame vigil]

would be locked

[limber drift]

wait does that mean like something different is planned for those accessories

[half imp]

summoner as a whole needs major changes

we know this

suggestions on how to do it won't really be of any help atm

[limber drift]

Fair yeah that does make sense

[bright crag]

It goes beyond that actually

Some diseases have no organic cause

[craggy girder]

like uuh. black lung?

from cigarettes?

[bright crag]

That's organic

[craggy girder]

oh then asbestos

[bright crag]

Probably has an organic component

[plush flame]

asbestos is exclusively mineral

no organic compound in it

[bright crag]

I think you misunderstood what I mean by organic

An organic disease is one that can involves an alteration in the body's (organic) functioning, most often disturbing physiological processes

For example, smoking for years on end will cause the destruction of alveolar spaces and the imprisonment of air inside the lungs, resulting in worse gas exchange and hyper-inflated lungs

Some diseases can exist in someone who, physically, is completely healthy
Most of them are mental/emotional conditions

In that sense, disease could more accurately be described as a disturbance of physical, mental and/or social wellbeing

[bright crag]

Some of those can actually cause symptoms that look organic but don't have an organic cause

[craggy girder]

isnt that like stress induced autoimmune or

[bright crag]

Mainly somatization

Autoimmunity is itself an organic cause

Especially because there are biological parameters you can test to evaluate it

[lucid marsh]

Objection: Supposedly inorganic or non physical causes are actually organic and are simply too complex to understand due to occurring as a result of brain activity

[drowsy plank]

the brain is an organ

[lucid marsh]

Also true

[lucid marsh]

#suggestions-voting message
Before someone says "DoG treasure bag spawns from the closest segment to the player"
No it doesn't. Someone posted proof that it doesn't do that a few days ago.

[crude geode]

@gusty aspen We specifically don’t have a plating for every biome. On top of that there’s a lot of focus on the specifics of how it would be implemented over the reasoning for why this should be added, which should be most of a suggestion if not all of it’s content

[hollow shell]

^

(Also I figured you would have at least mentioned that Draedon has done some kind of research on the Astral Infection, considering Astrum Aureus, as a supporting reason)

[vocal wedge]

(And the conclusion of that research is that the Astral Infection can and will assimilate Draedon's creations, a lab there would probably look more like it was part of the environment after a while.)

[tiny minnow]

How would the lab even spawn

[vocal wedge]

That's not really what the question is.

[fossil finch]

The astral already spawns an structure

[calm knot]

and it causes problems sometimes even being so small as it is

[fossil finch]

Does it

I've seen generate it awkwardly plenty but i don't think that's causing problems

And a lab could be underground and it doesn't matter exactly where it is when it comes to terrain shape

I mean it's a silly idea but the generation part is the least of its concerns

[calm knot]

i am blowing it out of proportion but have you considered

image doesn't wanna work nevermind

[sleek turret]

but Ender.... have you considered small worlds!!!

[fossil finch]

Wow! Perhaps they shouldn't use enormous static structures

[bright crag]

Objection: in that hypothesis, the "kickstarter" would still be an external abstract factor (e.g. a traumatic event triggering PTSD) rather than a concrete intervention disrupting body physiology (e.g. allergens triggering the manifestation of asthma)

[indigo yacht]

i think this all just ends up being an argument of semantics where we all mean the same thing

and are just expressing it in different ways

[bright crag]

As are many subjects of classification

[sleek turret]

just cite your sources in APA smh

[gusty aspen]

I initially did. But the bot reacted with the compression emoji so I cut it, and other things, out.

[gusty aspen]

well, I'm not massively up to date on the lore, I've read it a few times, but I still only know so much. any "how"s I could give are purely hypothetical, and could be completely incorrect, which is why I stayed away from the "how" idea. But, regardless, I see your point so I edited my message.

[drowsy plank]

you're focusing too much on lore speculation and item implementation. this is still explaining the "how" of the item and not explaining what it should be focusing on, which is the WHY. why does this need to be added? what does it add to the game? what does it fix or improve? furthermore, you're over the character limit again

[gusty aspen]

what "why" can I give? I... Want it in? thought it'd be cool, and kinda fitting? I'm not a game designer, I came up with a cool idea, thought "hey, I kinda want this, pls make my life easier!" and rolled with it. Technically nothing ever needs to be added to the mod again and we'd be fine. I'm just someone who enjoys building and wants to do a cool thing.

[mystic sandal]

for building suggestions, it is generally laxer when you have to provide reasoning, but i still think your reasoning is too weak here. consistency as reasoning generally only applies to things like furniture sets, not entire new blocks

[gusty aspen]

how so? I feel like adding a new block would be far easier than an entire furniture set

[polar bison]

Still requires assets for something with marginal benefits

I think it would actually cause more consistency issues than it fixes

As it would be the only plating without a Lab or Soul Artifact

[mystic sandal]

another important thing is that plating would mean new walls which, to my knowledge, are WAY harder than new tiles

but i may also just be talking out my ass there

[polar bison]

Walls are just annoying in a different way

[gusty aspen]

I'm gonna be honest... I don't really got an answer, probably will just end up deleting my thing.

issue is I don't HAVE a good why, I don't think I ever will.

[polar bison]

Astralplate has neat lore implications on paper but to actually see said implication it would require a lot of little work, while the item itself isn’t difficult it’s everything attached to it that cause issue.

[gusty aspen]

I don't know the in-depth lore of the game, never have

I don't know any WHY I could give, since... WHY do anything?

I don't know the work behind it. I don't know the tiny details, I don't understand it, and won't for a long time

[indigo yacht]

infected dubious plating or whatever

[gusty aspen]

that's why when I heard WHY, I thought it meant lore implications, Why would this even be a thing in-world?

[fleet grotto]

The reasoning I can think of is the same reason aureus exists

just astral infected glupshit

[gusty aspen]

which is already what I explained. I figured it could make sense for aureus to drop the astralplate, since Aureus was created to survey and explore the astral infection

[indigo yacht]

thats nice but what do it do

why would it be added

just for decoration?

or as a crafting material for one item?

[gusty aspen]

Gimme a bit to make food I'll see about figuring it out. Do i need to make item concepts too or something so it fits in?

[indigo yacht]

no

[gusty aspen]

I'm just gonna delete the bit of lore and let the devs figure that out if this somehow gets added.

I need to remind myself what the plates can make before I can get into "why", since I don't even remember what these all make

[gusty aspen]

alright, there. that's the best I have for "why" right now, since at the end of the day I don't want to try and dictate creative direction or anything like that

[vocal wedge]

I mean you give a lore explanation but I don't see how it is one, since that just looks like a gameplay addition the suggestion would imply.

Like, I'm fairly certain you need to give a reason as to why this is something the mod is missing rather than just something that would be cool.
Currently, those kind of blocks are only used for Draedon's labs, but Draedon doesn't have a lab in the Astral Infection, so there isn't a reason for there to be blocks for one.
If it were a case of every biome having plating blocks, even those without any labs, except the Astral Infection you could argue that it would be for consistency.

[grizzled dome]

I mean, Astrum Aureus is one of Draedon's creations so you could justify it that way? But adding a whole new block just for one boss to randomly drop a building block feels like cruft.

[gusty aspen]

if that's the case then my suggestion would simply NEVER be added, end of story. It's not "missing" it, it would just make sense and be cool.

plain and simple. if it

if it's not gonna happen, it's not gonna happen

[humble scarab]

You never add "it would be cool" in suggestions

[gusty aspen]

I've revised that paragraph like 4 damn times, so atp I give up, because I'm essentially being told "there's no point" without being told that. it's not "missing" it.

[drowsy plank]

it is missing that, but if you're gonna give up it's not really relevant then

[gusty aspen]

How? How is it "missing" an astralplate?

[drowsy plank]

i thought you were referring to the reason why thing

but i could write something up to justify an astral plate prolly

i dont think it would be very hard but if u dont want to rewrite then /shrug

[gusty aspen]

I've been told plenty of times, you being one of the people, there's no lab, there's little reasoning to go through the effort. Why would they bother with the effort for little reward? what could they gain to add astralplate, for a guy who literally just wants "ooo cool astral turret hehe" and "ooo cool lighty block"

I don't know this mod in any in-depth way. I'm not part of the community, really. I'm literally on my first real calamity playthrough since the days of still having BUMBLEBIRB. I've beaten infernum before I beat base calamity atp.

I don't know how things work, nor the "why" I would need to give to justify me wanting a singular dumb thing that came to the top of my head at 3am

[drowsy plank]

ok well you should read the rules next time before you get mad at people for explaining that ur not following them

[gusty aspen]

I'm not mad.

And I did read the rules, I guess I just accidentally skimmed over some things

[drowsy plank]

people tend to not really get the point of these channels at first

[gusty aspen]

I'm sorry if I came off as being pissed at you, or others. I'm not

I'm just genuinely confused because I don't know what reasoning I can give

I look over the rules, the "do"s and "don't"s, and from what I saw, it didn't look like my suggestion was against that, since I didn't think a singular extra block and like 4 total crafting recipes would be super effort-intensive

[drowsy plank]

it's more the specific item suggestion clause

if your only reasoning for an item is that it would be cool, that generally isn't a good suggestion

it's harder for aesthetic items like chairs or walls, but generally you can justify those with connections to consistency or the likes

[indigo yacht]

you just need to have reasoning mostly, and currently your reasoning is that "if this is added we could then use it to add more things" but at that point it would be better just to suggest the items themselves rather than the material

and also the lore stuff

[gusty aspen]

I mean, I gave lore ideas, I gave the reasoning I wanted it, I gave some ideas on how these things could function. at the end of the day it's not how I work to pull something outta my ass to get something I want. I want Astralplate because I'm a builder. I wanna make a draedon lab for different biomes. Astral is the one biome genuinely difficult to make a lab for. if that won't suffice, then it likely just won't happen.

[drowsy plank]

to be fair i do think there are some good ideas here, but i think at this point it's more the issue that, on top of passing the character limit, you still have some of those implementation ideas in your suggestion rather than just focusing on the better points you made

[gusty aspen]

I don't really know what the character limit is, which is the issue. I'm not counting every letter or space, and it sure as hell ain't the discord character limit

[drowsy plank]

1k characters

pretty sure that's mentioned in the rules

[gusty aspen]

let me look again, I sure as hell didn't see that

[tepid crown]

1k characters within the body (not the title) of your suggestion

[gusty aspen]

okay, yeah I missed that, that's on me

in my defense, again, 3am.

[gusty aspen]

I mean if you're willing to help me, I'd certainly appreciate it, because I'm stuck, and I'd at least like it considered.

[drowsy plank]

Add an "Astralplate" and/or other Astral building materials
The "-plate" type blocks are typically used for aesthetic purposes within Draedon's labs in specific biomes. While the Astral Infection does not currently feature a lab, it is clear that Draedon has some interest in it due to the existence of Astrum Aureus as one of his former recon drones. Furthermore, the Astral itself is currently highly lacking in aesthetic options, down to the fact that Astral Stone doesn't even have an associated brick, even though Pearlstone and Crim/Ebonstone do. While there is no Astral Lab (and there might never be), adding more building options for the Astral, a biome that is surprisingly lacking content despite its relevance within the game, would be a very welcome addition, and an "Astralplate" existing could allow players to build their own "Astral Lab" even if Calamity never adds one itself.

[gusty aspen]

...you had that ready didn't you

[drowsy plank]

no i was typing it up while we were talking

[gusty aspen]

oh

well shite

that... yeah kinda says my thoughts perfectly

now I gotta figure out how to paraphrase it in my own words 🤔

[drowsy plank]

you can just copy it if you want

idc

[gusty aspen]

honestly I only changed really one thing, replacing "furthermore" with "Not to mention", since you worded it basically exactly how I would, given the character limit.

[drowsy plank]

fair

[gusty aspen]

thanks 🤝

I actually didn't know that astral stone didn't have a brick, I had to double check that, and nope, yeah, the astral brick is based on the ore, not the stone

[vocal wedge]

Yeah, that makes more sense, since if you were basing your justification on lore you'd want more than it just being something that could theoretically exist. Like, theoretically forklifts could exist in the Calamity world but that wouldn't be a good justification.
Astral Stone not having any use for building unlike other world evils stones is a good point.

[gusty aspen]

I'm ADHD as fuck and tend to overthink things. makes me REALLY bad at explaining my reasoning for things

since I'm horrible at putting my thoughts to writing

[indigo yacht]

I'm going to assume you mean in the calamity game and not world because it would make no sense not to have machinery for moving around lots of cargo at once

[drowsy plank]

i honestly forgot astral brick existed, but it's weird that astral stone doesn't have a standalone brick since that's more astral ore brick like demonite and crimtane brick than astral stone brick

[vocal wedge]

As in there is no reason that in-universe a forklift couldn't exist, and realistically in a post-industrial revolution world it probably would.
But that's not a reason why a forklift should be a thing in the game.

[indigo yacht]

ye

[gusty aspen]

and honestly idk if it's a hot take but I don't really like astral brick much... the walls don't fit the block too well I don't feel

[drowsy plank]

that is a very cold take and also not a common take because most players don't even know astral brick and wall exist because like 70% of the vocal playerbase doesn't build

lmao

[gusty aspen]

for me, the 3 options, the astralplate, the light, and the turret, are all equal in priority

[vocal wedge]

It's harder to justify the turret because it would be something that would never appear naturally and so would only be a thing a small amount of players would ever see or use.

[gusty aspen]

if Draedon can make water into an okay weapon, no way in hell he couldn't, or wouldn't make the astral infection into something he can use.

And I just think the plate and light would look great, since I love the astral biome's colors. would be consistently my main base if it didn't require hardmode... and if the jungle's bulb spawner area didn't exist.

[vocal wedge]

I mean it is a thing that the Astral Infection specifically is a danger to Draedon that he has to figure out a way to deal with as robots cannot deal with it.

You mean Vernal Pass?

[gusty aspen]

it's why my lore suggestion mentioned them being unmade prototypes, since Aureus never came back with the samples for him to study

if the terrarian can make miracle matter work, I'd imagine the terrarian can finish the "puzzle" of making astral turrets or something.

if it was up to me, there'd be one turret at least for each schematic since I think they're flat-out awesome. but that's unrealistic

[gusty aspen]

and yeah, I think. honestly I'm gonna take your word for it, since idk the name, but yeah, area with tree and big bulbs, and a bunch of practically pre-built houses.

[vocal wedge]

Just checked, across the labs there are seven turrets, but they're not split evenly.
Last two labs, have none, third has one, and the first two have three each.

[vocal wedge]

That is Vernal Pass.

[gusty aspen]

noted

Honestly a more minor, but still a thing, is I also want big Hive walls, like we get in the natural queen bee arena, but I imagine either someone else will do that eventually, or it's already coming, or whatever. it's much less of an issue for me

anyways that aside

like I said it's about even. I can begrudgingly live without the turrets, since laser turrets would be fine, but I think it'd be cool if we got astral turrets too.

regardless I'll stop clogging this chat with my ADHD ass

[grave zinc]

@terse crown - Your suggestion has received an updated status!

[Change the Honey Dew's description to better reflect the debuffs that it's actually affecting]

It has been decided that your suggestion can neither be passed nor denied; either the devs have already made plans that conflict with it, or they have decided to implement an altered version.
You can check out your suggestion again here: #suggestions-voting message

[keen zodiac]

[lucid marsh]

"Honey dew doesn't do that anymore" was the reason mentioned earlier

[grave zinc]

@frosty trellis - Your suggestion has received an updated status!

[Remove Galactica Singularities]

It has officially been implemented into the game, and will be available in the next update!
You can check out your suggestion again here: #suggestions-voting message

[limber drift]

Holy guacamole it happened

Galactica Singularities are dead

[rancid lotus]

How am I to live without my materialslop?

[limber drift]

I will say it didn't really have any reason to exist as it was so like removing it fine

I assume most of the stuff that used it in the recipe will just now use one of each celestial fragment instead

wait holy moly that suggestion to remove them is from 16th of July, 2023, thats like over 2 years old

[novel belfry]

ITS OVER

[limber drift]

Essence of Eleum is like the one of the three essences whos name realistically definitely should've been changed since like the other two's old names while maybe references at least made sense and meant something

[novel belfry]

yea

even chaos makes some sense

and currently sunlight is fine

even though it technically can be construed as a dark souls reference

[novel belfry]

EXACTLY why hasnt eleum died

i dunno

[hollow shell]

Chaos and Cinder weren't even renamed cuz of being Dark Souls references
The former was renamed so it didn't get thematically lumped in with Hallow stuff using the word "Chaos" already
Latter because it primarily dropped from sky enemies so it didn't have much reason to be named "Cinder" which is much more of a fire & ash type word

Eleum is indeed a completely meaningless word

[limber drift]

Also with it they'd also probably want to rename elumplate since like that is also based on the current name of essence of eleum

[hollow shell]

Yeah indeed, just like Chaosplate into Havocplate

[novel belfry]

i mean but thats just obvious

[limber drift]

it is kind of odd how like cinderplate is still cinderplate despite essence of cinder becoming essence of sunlight and also for some reason cinderplate's new caged lights are the only ones which are named the same as the respective plate which is also odd

[hollow shell]

https://terraria.wiki.gg/wiki/Sunplate_Block

[limber drift]

Oh yeah fair that would be a bit weird but like idk lightplate would be more consistent at least

[hollow shell]

Solarplate?

[limber drift]

maybe that could also work yeah

honestly all the plate blocks are like a weird thing in the mod cos they kind of feel like they're meant to all be a consistent group but like what the plates are related to is quite weird at least to me

[novel belfry]

to be fair, there's NO LORE FOR THEM

why are there Bio-Center labs?

[limber drift]

like its also weird that like these kind of seemingly tech-related materials due to their presence in the bio labs are all used in either very magical artifacts with the soul artifacts and phantomic artifact an also normality relocator for cinderplate

also even then the kind of plate in each of the soul artifacts are extra weird cos like they all have basically no connection to the related boss, profaned using havocplate despite providence having nothing to do with the brimstone crag, auric using plagueplate despite like yharon having nothing to do with the plague or even the jungle as a whole anymore, eldritch using navyplate despite the lunatic cultist has absolutely nothing at all to do with the sunken sea or even desert and dimensional using elumplate despite d.o.g. having absolutely nothing to do with the snow biome

[sleek turret]

https://tenor.com/view/i-used-to-pray-for-times-like-this-celebrating-gif-6529507804860980052

[half imp]

Counterpoint on Eleum

Elumphant

[pulsar marlin]

Rip Galactica Singularity

[limber drift]

oh wait true oh no we can't change essence of eleum

[spare bison]

Essence of Innertia would go kinda hard

[novel belfry]

YES

GOOD

[spare bison]

tbf i think that could remain as a nod to what the item used to be called. it is kind of a goofy item already so i think it fits

[half imp]

shh

[novel belfry]

NO. Eleumphants

[half imp]

no Inertiaphant is dumb

[spare bison]

I think i worded that poorly

[half imp]

-# (I know what you meant)

[craggy girder]

"Elumphant is a reference to Frozen Eleum Loyce from Dark Souls. This is also a reference to the previous name of [renamed], Essence of Eleum."

[spare bison]

What i mean is that the ACCESSORY ELEPHANT can still be called Elumphant as a nod to what the CRAFTING MATERIAL used to be called in this HYPOTHETICAL SCENARIO where it'd be renamed to ESSENCE OF INNERTIA since the ELEPHANT is already a PRETTY GOOFY ITEM so i think it b oh alrigth ends it all

[half imp]

Elephreeze when

[indigo yacht]

essence of cold

[half imp]

That sounds like a pokemon

[spare bison]

Mostly i just think "Essence of Frost" or "Essence of Cold" don't have the same Pizzaz ™ as "Essence of Eleum"

And Innertia still is relatively fitting since y'know

[craggy girder]

alliteration curse.

[half imp]

I typed and deleted this twice

[spare bison]

slowing down, ice, freezing, innertia

[indigo yacht]

yeah see im cooking here

[crude geode]

essence of brrrrr

[indigo yacht]

essence of low temperature

[craggy girder]

Element of Freeze .

frelement frof freeze

[half imp]

Essence of Aloofness

wrong cold ooos

[spare bison]

essence of Hardmode crafting materials that are dropped by certain ice-related enemies. Type Crafting material
Tooltip The essence of cold creatures
Rarity Rarity Level: 4
Sell 4 Silver Coin.png
Research 25 required

[gaunt quest]

Essence of this is cold

[limber drift]

essence of snowgrave

[crude geode]

[half imp]

Essence of Biting Into Ice Cream

[limber drift]

Essence of Elumphants is the clear name solution

[gaunt quest]

Essence of brrrr is peak

[half imp]

Eleum of Essencephants

[craggy girder]

honestly if Elumphant becomes a lot more widespread, calling it Essence of Elum would kinda owrk

[limber drift]

also its plate is for some reason also called Elumplate and not Eleumplate so like its also called elum there for some reason

[indigo yacht]

essence of elum

[gaunt quest]

Essence of nitrogen

[limber drift]

essence of endothermia

[indigo yacht]

frost themed light pet named eluminati

[gaunt quest]

Essence of hypothermia

[limber drift]

Essence of the snow legion

[tame vigil]

coldplate

essence of slightly chilly

[worthy fiber]

provi soul artifact using essence of havoc has bugged me for so many years

can't even make a suggestion tho bc it's a patreon item or smth like that

[limber drift]

None of the plates used in the soul artifacts at all match the boss so like its not truly a problem specifically for profaned

[worthy fiber]

normality relocator would've made sense back in the day to use essence of chaos bc of chaos state

idr what phantom uses

dog artifact is eleum bc space is cold 👍

[limber drift]

Well if I remember correctly I’m pretty sure rod of discord canonically uses primordial light or something which is sunlight so the plate made of essence of sunlight does kind of work but it is weird

[drowsy plank]

essence of eleum is fine

having some made up words is actually good yall

gives some originality to names

[spare bison]

eh

[limber drift]

Its not made up its from dark souls though

[spare bison]

i think made up words can be cool in the right context but if it's just stolen from another game where the word is used in a entirely unrelated context i think it's like. lol. lmao

[drowsy plank]

fair

[spare bison]

specially in calamity, out of all things

the mod with a notorious track record of. yknow.

vaguely gestures at primordial light sigil

vaguely gestures at murasama

[drowsy plank]

@mental lodge #1178515062030348308

[spare bison]

one day we're gonna find out calamitas was actually a character from a obscure dark souls 3 mod

[drowsy plank]

ikr

[crude comet]

child of cinder

[craggy girder]

can we make some made up names from other games for the other elements

[grave zinc]

@drowsy plank - Your suggestion has received an updated status!

[Make the Sun Spirit Staff Recipe more Consistent with Vanilla Desert Weapon Recipes]

It has officially been implemented into the game, and will be available in the next update!
You can check out your suggestion again here: #suggestions-voting message

@craggy girder - Your suggestion has received an updated status!

[Change the status dialogue for attempting to consuming more than one Sacred Strawberry]

It has officially been implemented into the game, and will be available in the next update!
You can check out your suggestion again here: #suggestions-voting message

[craggy girder]

didnt they alreadhy

[tame vigil]

did they

[craggy girder]

oh it was considered

"good idea to implement" -> "it has been! yay!"

[tame vigil]

i flagged them a bit ago but bot was broken, so i reflagged them just now to make sure

[mossy pelican]

Cant rename eleum bc of eleumphant @novel belfry

Pun dont work as well

[worthy fractal]

fr

[kind laurel]

We have established earlier in this discussion that it could be a reference to the old name

either that or Elephreeze (credit to Doze for that)

[limber drift]

Elephreeze is actually a really cute name

[frosty trellis]

ONLY TOOK YA ALMOST 3 YEARS

BUT FINALLY

[indigo yacht]

truth nuke

[keen zodiac]

HOLY FUCK

YES

FINALLY 🎉 🎉 🎉 🎉 🎉 🎉 🎉 🎉 🎉 🎉 🎉

[heady ice]

i've never seen such a unanimously positive reaction to something being removed

[gilded citrus]

Yooooo

[heady ice]

usually you have people like "why did you remove that? >:(" but this is like "thank fucking god"

[half imp]

that's because we haven't made it to Reddit

[deft yew]

There WILL be a non-negligible amount of people who liked it but that’s true of everything

[royal tapir]

That's because it hasn't spread at all

[deft yew]

#suggestions-posting message
It’s all Dark Souls bruh 😭

[lavish yoke]

don't let calamity mod talk know about this

[indigo yacht]

dark souls mod talk

[patent nimbus]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/711268703991365642/1401859243522658345/caption-1.gif

[deft yew]

White check mark reaction

[plush flame]

i should fix that :cl

[whole tundra]

AND STAY DEAD

[half imp]

@lost spire that is not a real bug

If you apply multiple debuffs the damage tick size doesn't change, but the rate does

same as vanilla

debuffs stack exactly as intended

[lost spire]

Oh that's unintuitive but thanks for telling me, I'll edit the suggestion

[half imp]

An accessory to show debuff dps is probably doable

actually it should be pretty easy

[indigo yacht]

I'm surprised this isnt already a thing

[tame vigil]

i know there's a dps meter for debuffs mod in the meantime

[lost spire]

There's a QOL mod that has one already, I just think base Cal having one would make a lot of sense

[tame vigil]

i agree, i just mean in the meantime

[tame vigil]

in all honesty i was originally neutral but changed my vote to no after actually removing them from all the recipes

[drowsy plank]

no as in you were against removing them?

[tame vigil]

yea

[drowsy plank]

i suggested once that you could just turn them into a drop from space mobs or give them some other method of obtainment, but if you wanted to keep them in their current form i genuinely cannot understand why

they're just a chore and i dont feel like there's any reason you couldn't just use fragments directly instead

[half imp]

the future of calamity

[royal tapir]

pre-1.4.2.108

[glass arch]

gotta go further remove bars have it just be the raw ore costs

[half imp]

I think the other mod I made was better tbh

The alternative timeline of calamity

[gilded citrus]

what

[deft yew]

Auric bar specifically should be separate because it includes soul frags

[half imp]

Honestly make it crafted by hand and also include the station / all ingredients to craft that station

[kind laurel]

every material not in this goes into a crafting station exclusively used to create shadowspec gear

[glass arch]

gregtech recipe

[indigo yacht]

heavy modular frames

[humble scarab]

i personally liked them

[spare bison]

idk about an astralplate specifically but more building blocks would be cool yea

probably spriter hell but hey maybe they could get to it eventually

more building stuff is always nicw

[mystic sandal]

i fw this heavy honestly

[drowsy plank]

that shit sucks

[plush flame]

auughhh! this is recipeslop!

[deft yew]

THIS RECIPE IS SO GOOD I COULD DIE!
THIS RECIPE IS SO BAD I COULD DIE!
Huh?
Huh?

[sleek turret]

yea while we're at it why not add the terrarium core from thorium smh

[kind laurel]

every item in the game comes together to make one (1) bar of shadowspec

thing would be a black hole

[lucid marsh]

Shadowspec is kinda stupid ngl

[kind laurel]

it's just to lock overpowered dev stuff to postgame

that's it

[worthy fractal]

this looks cool

except asc spirit essence fuck that shit

[kind laurel]

mm being all the boss materials actually isn't that bad of a concept

everything else is awful though

[deft yew]

Lmk if I can make this shorter or something, I know people don’t read

[craggy girder]

isnt cataclysms punch combo meant for True Melee

like when they start winding up b4 throwing the punchball

[deft yew]

That’s one out of three attacks, it’s still pretty risky and short, and it’s VERY dangerous to hit either of them once they desync

[craggy girder]

i wouldnt think youd hit Both at once

also what do you mean "smooth" their attacks?

i would think that unless their attacks were reworked theyre still gonna be hard to hit

[deft yew]

I said their movement

Did you read the whole thing? Namely the lower part

[deft yew]

And I didn’t say this

[craggy girder]

yeah thats the part i dont get

i dont know how they would accelerate

[tepid crown]

theyre like humming birds rn basically

they just zip and up and down rather than smoothly going to their positions

[craggy girder]

and how is that a problem for true melee ?

[kind laurel]

because you can't hit them while they're flying by you

[craggy girder]

oh do you mean when they're swapping positions?

[kind laurel]

I think so yeah

(idk I've only fought SCal with weapons that are really easy to hit things with)

[deft yew]

Again, did you read the whole thing, namely the lower part.

[craggy girder]

i did.

im asking for further information

[deft yew]

Outside of that brief stationary attack they are literally glued to the edge of the screen

[craggy girder]

what Part needs acceleration. the entire fight would be the same if they were smooth moving. i dont know how making them accelerate would change anything

[deft yew]

And then they lose some health and start instantly zipping between firing positions instead of sliding

[deft yew]

Did that edit help

[craggy girder]

moderately?

do you not want them snapped to your sides

[deft yew]

Correct

I mean, still have them move to positions at your sides, but not straight up glue them there like hunters

[craggy girder]

while i partially agree with this, i feel the problem would be that you fight the brothers like p1 moon lord where you bait one over, do a ton of damage, and hit the other wall

like yeah its better for true melee but the gameplay would be "do the same thing" vs. "wait for the one thing"

[deft yew]

Man I’m not only talking about true melee

[craggy girder]

i can not for the life of me name another class that struggles on brothers

[deft yew]

The snapping makes them horrible for most any weapon that doesn’t home

When they start snapping I can’t focus on aiming at them and proactively managing dodge positions at the same time

[craggy girder]

wdym by dodge positions ?

if i rememeber correctly they always aim at you so you kinda move perpendicular to where they are

[deft yew]

Since they both move in kind of a wave pattern on each side, you have to track their shot timings so you can pick when to go up or down instead of drifting just shy of the shots.
This is a bigger deal with the snapping, the accelerating slashes, and the fist cones, because one or two wrong moves can put projectiles in really weird places that are hard to get out of

Mostly the accelerating slashes

[half imp]

Try to hit them with something like Eclipse's Fall

You'll immediately see the issue

[craggy girder]

(unrelated but this is a funny name)

[heady ice]

https://gif.fxtwitter.com/tweet_video/HGIMxSRawAA-WgN.webp

[dire warren]

t1 dumbo

[limber drift]

On a related note to my Suggestion here I do really hope that calamity adds more astral infection themed furniture since like the only actual astral themed set is monolith which is an intentionally messy furniture set due to the nature of the astral, but a less messy furniture set and also maybe ones that are primarily the astral's main colours of blue and orange would be great

[half imp]

Rest in peace eclipse's small

Date of death: 2.2

[dire warren]

i sympathize with this guy's pain after watching t1 fumbling the bag

[frosty trellis]

Just don't put 4 types of fragments into everything

At most put like 1 but the item really didn't need to exist when outside of one craft, luminite did the exact same purpose

[limber drift]

I'd say it depends on the item whether it should become a singular type of fragment or all 4 since several items do visually show the colours of all of them and currently use galactica singularities

[glass arch]

which,

is purple

[limber drift]

I mean yeah but like Its probably meant to be that they incorporate all the fragments which in crafting is represented with galactica singularities

[novel belfry]

hi normally i wouldnt upvote my sugg but i feel especially strongly about my opinion

eleum loyce's ruler might be goated, but he has no influence in the lands of the godseeker...

[limber drift]

It really should've been changed but like due to eleumphant theres now a dilemha where we either kill the reference (good) but ruin the pun (bad) or we keep the reference (bad) but keep the pun (good)

[novel belfry]

frostodon

frost-mastodon

mastodons are the other big proboscideans that disappeared after the ice age

[limber drift]

I guess but like the elumphant pun is almost perfect

[novel belfry]

the solution is to timetravel and tell the fromsoft devs to add a eleum loyce mammoth

which people will just nickname "eleumphants"

[fleet grotto]

lump

[dire warren]

of flesh

[oblique birch]

Elden Ring item

[vocal wedge]

Remove the name Eleum, keep the Eleumphant, look down on new players for not getting the joke.

[calm knot]

🔥

[limber drift]

Nah make is so elumphants are named after elumplate which get to keep elum in the name

[kind laurel]

elephreeze though

[safe gorge]

i do like elephreeze!

[keen zodiac]

@mental lodge specific rework suggestions aren't allowed

the balancing isn't the problem, the fact that it's so specific is

also we can't access files on your personal google drive

[vocal wedge]

@inland frigate I think that's far too long, and I don't think you're allowed to be that specific as to what the changes should be.

[inland frigate]

Yeahhh its way too long, and I'm not sure how to propose the ideas without being overly specific

[vocal wedge]

You should read the rules as to what a suggestion can contain and how it should be formatted.

[inland frigate]

I did

[vocal wedge]

I think you really would have to rewrite it quite a bit to have it be valid but I think the underlying idea might be able to qualify as valid, if rewritten to be much less long and specific.

Since I think the justification of 'The Community doesn't have much to do with communities and is obtained in an arbitrary way and this could be changed' I don't think is that bad of an idea.

Since what you have there is a Specific Rework Suggestion since you're saying exactly how it should function.

[inland frigate]

Yeahhhh I getcha, I think I just cut out the second half and then rewrite it to be more vague an idea

[vocal wedge]

Like, for the sake of argument, if your suggestion was more like:
Make The Community relevant to Town NPCs.

The Community is an accessory that is obtained from Anahita and Leviathan but has very little to do with the concept of a community beyond the name and tooltip. The mechanics could be changed to involve Town NPCs and Terraria's happiness mechanics which would be more thematically fitting for the item.

(This certainly isn't perfect but probably is less violating of the rules.)

[north oracle]

oh i didn't try to open it
that is funny

[north oracle]

this is what i was going to ask you to do pretty much
thanks

[inland frigate]

Thank you so much! This is way better

[half imp]

We already have plans for the community

[inland frigate]

Oooh okay

I just edited my post too lmao

[vocal wedge]

Also I think in general you probably do not want 'lore' to be the main focus of a suggestion. Not everything has to a critical, important thing with tons of exposition and can just be a random magic thing. It can be used as supplementary justification.
If your main justification was lore reasons, it should be for situations where what's currently implemented is bad for conveying the story, such as outdated/conflicting information for instance.

While everyone agrees that the Phaselayer isn't good, I think this is well into Specific Rework Suggestion territory. @mental lodge

[inland frigate]

True true, I'll cut down on the more lore emphasis

thanks again for your help

[vocal wedge]

But since the Community already has plans it would be better to remove the suggestion since, well, there are already plans for it.