oh ye
#suggestions-discussion
gritty acorn
dense locust
Honestly with how current death daytime empress is that shit should be on par with post provi weapons 
grim tusk
That would be if Calamity followed Catalyst’s logic for Metanova gear
which i assure you they will absolutely not
I’d say it would be more on par with post-Deus gear, maybe even pre-Providence
gritty acorn
pre provi is what i was going for in my mind
calm knot
yeah i agree
grim tusk
I’d say it prob would be the same as spam Malachite and Briny Baron
of with whips it would match stealth Malachite
dense locust
I’d say it prob would be the same as spam Malachite and Briny Baron
with the current state of day empress for it to be "balanced" it would need to be far stronger than either of those
maybe one day when legendary's get actually difficult obtainment methods but as it stands nohitting enraged empress is much harder than grinding a boss like 10 times
novel belfry
okay fair 👍
earnest raptor
Yes but its like Yharon tier viable with Vanilla stats
is it?
when were tests made?
grim tusk
Like a year ago, issue was Terraprisma hitting too often and too hard + Cal giving you a fuckton of minion slots + minion boosting accessories
grim tusk
like by itself Terraprisma is prob not that gamebreaking but with Cal’s op summoner gear it was
Terraprisma is probably gonna get unnerfed a bunch once Cal reworks summoner after 1.4.5 tmod
earnest raptor
like by itself Terraprisma is prob not that gamebreaking but with Cal’s op summo...
"vanilla summon weapons are OP"
looks inside
Statis' Curse: Increases your max number of minions by 3, and summon damage by 12%
also, probably irrelevant
but this reminds me of early whip... debates
grim tusk
Terraprisma was in fact buffed a lot by whips due to its hittrate
earnest raptor
but this reminds me of early whip... debates
when apparently tML's whips were super glitchy and inaccurate to vanilla, which skewed public's perception of them
grim tusk
at least whips were handled albeit pretty much a bandaid
grim tusk
when apparently tML's whips were super glitchy and inaccurate to vanilla, which ...
Early 1.4 tmod testing Firecracker was comically busted
earnest raptor
yeah, I was about to mention that
grim tusk
But then again it was also busted in vanilla
mossy pelican
I had a good thought, and then I forgot
I can’t remember it now
It was an actually good idea too
sleek turret
Firecracker had 3.0x I think prior to being nerfed to 2.5x if I'm not mistaken during 1.4 release
earnest raptor
I can’t remember it now
radiance stole it
grim tusk
Firecracker had 3.0x I think prior to being nerfed to 2.5x if I'm not mistaken d...
it got nerfed a tad more but it was like that in vanilla
sleek turret
Yeah Cal nerfed it to 2.0x
earnest raptor
grim tusk
I had a good thought, and then I forgot
Just a random flash of inspiration
sleek turret
Oughh it was 2.75x
grim tusk
Yeah Cal nerfed it to 2.0x
Cal nerfed it even harder back then
iirc
Then buffed it after enough whinning
mossy pelican
Oh I remember what it was now!
I think a new wing slot item that functions like the magic carpet (could add the ability to go up with w, but not space) the important aspect to me would be that it would hover in place like the carpet does when you hold space
I think its a unique idea that bypasses the issue with hover wings needing to hold down s to hover
hazy nacelle
that's just a flying mount
earnest raptor
but fire is also swung 2 times per second, so it's potential is capped at 2 minions hits per second
grim tusk
Oh I remember what it was now!
I think a new wing slot item that functions lik...
yep that is just flying mounts but clunkier
grim tusk
but fire is also swung 2 times per second, so it's potential is capped at 2 mini...
Huh 2 times?
earnest raptor
use time is 30
grim tusk
Altho yep far better with higher dmg minions
grim tusk
use time is 30
ah true
and then theres speed boosts
Which Cal removes from Melee gloves iirc
Since Melee…
earnest raptor
yeah, but just saying that mult hit is not that crazy in practice
grim tusk
They should prob add whip speed accessories
earnest raptor
They should prob add whip speed accessories
some vanilla summon sets give whip speed/range
mossy pelican
Obsidian and Tiki notably
earnest raptor
there is even dichotomy between tiki and spooky
sleek turret
obsidian, tiki and stardust
earnest raptor
there is even dichotomy between tiki and spooky
first is safer, while second kills faster
sleek turret
Yeah I was going to say that
earnest raptor
kinda wish those choices were more present in cal
sleek turret
It's noticeable if you're pairing Firecracker with Desert Tiger
earnest raptor
kinda wish those choices were more present in cal
as you kinda just wear whatever cal ore set is available to you
grim tusk
some vanilla summon sets give whip speed/range
yes those still exist, I meant Cal removed melee speed working for whips
afaik
earnest raptor
lame
earnest raptor
as you kinda just wear whatever cal ore set is available to you
also, speaking of summon gear
grim tusk
kinda wish those choices were more present in cal
Pretty much only Post-Golem/Cultist has this with Hydro vs Plague ones vs OoA vs Beetle vs Umbraphile (cuz of its strength) vs Astral
rest of the tiers… yep
earnest raptor
the monk/shinobi conversion to rogue is cool idea
but I wish individual pieces had some +max stealth
grim tusk
Yep it took ages to happen but glad it did happen
grim tusk
but I wish individual pieces had some +max stealth
Stealth has far more issues and those wouldnt be solved by having armor pieces have stealth
also afaik stealth was being moved to weapons
grim tusk
Idk maybe 3
maybe 4
Once the team wants to rework rogue I guess
but theres a queue
and summoner and mage are first
earnest raptor
Stealth has far more issues and those wouldnt be solved by having armor pieces h...
yes, but it's kinda silly, how one of armor sets, famous for armor mixing, is not practical for mixing because you can't use stealth lmfao
drowsy plank
rogue is functional if a bit stupid rn
mage's mana system doesn't work at all and summoner has things like necro staff and whips in the same class with haunted scroll and whatever the fuck is going on with vanilla summons in prehm
earnest raptor
...although I do have a question
is very low stealth value OP?
sleek turret
haunted scroll.... god d amn
earnest raptor
the OG hallowed-themed summon weapon
sleek turret
exploration wise it falls off compared to ice chunk honestly
like ice chunk just tracks enemies on your screen like crazy even if they're behind walls
grim tusk
...although I do have a question
is very low stealth value OP?
Gaining stealth points are a meaningful increase even on small amounts
mossy pelican
I’d imagine the formula for generation works off of a percentage rather than a set rate
gritty acorn
im gonna post a new suggestion lmk what u guys think
Revamp the Calamity Boss Bar
doesnt work with pillars, its ugly, its just mgr
drowsy plank
Revamp the Calamity Boss Bar
that's already planned
gritty acorn
nice
drowsy plank
though i have no idea what the status is on that considering HPU left
i feel like im saying that about a lot of things
hopefully maybe soon perhaps
gritty acorn
oo
sleek turret
It's indecisive I assume
gritty acorn
hope theres a phase display
and that u can reposition it
hate corner bossbars
moonlord desperately needs a rework
wc
boreal lichen
though i have no idea what the status is on that considering HPU left
still being done but with revisions to what heart planned afaik
big e was putting some work into it last i heard
indigo yacht
this line is actually fairly unique in terms of mage weapons aren't they
novel belfry
i dunno
SHPC can technically fire homing if you put in Souls of Sight, and it does spawn more projectiles that if you dont suck up can home into enemies
plush flame
this line is actually fairly unique in terms of mage weapons aren't they
the projectile is "unique" but the function is just hold m1 at an enemy and you get a bunch of homing projectiles in a second
the closest thing to unique that it has is thorn blossom's self damage
craggy girder
isnt The Prince better than Thorn Blossom
despite being like. identically tiered
it doesnt kill you
craggy girder
whaaaat
gritty acorn
has the exhume mechanic been forgotten
crude geode
No?
gritty acorn
fym no with a question mark
this mechanic hasnt been touched since scal turned humanoid
tepid crown
there are plans to make more exhumes
gritty acorn
nice
obsidian nova
Don't tell this guy about miasma 
obsidian nova
Hey, speaking of upgrades
The Hive would be a great upgrade to Mineral Mortar 
indigo yacht
Don't tell this guy about miasma <:XD:936106628833488906>
worst weapon ever?
whole tundra
So excited to see what abominations spawn from #suggestions-posting on april fools
Anyway
keen zodiac
nycro dead
boreal lichen
how will we continue living
errant wren
scientists say: 2-4
calm knot
scientists say: 2-4
me when im in the court of the corpse king
keen zodiac
true
indigo yacht
true
inland saddle
bot alive
boreal lichen
no way
novel belfry
resurrection
hollow shell
fuck I meant to ping about the molten armor suggestion too but it slipped me by
Oh well
craggy girder
this is mostly made outta mild annoyance: i love the rework for it but dont like how much the green misses
of course i must acknowledge the flaw of "predictive movement is often baited by a ramdash" but i believe its a valid tradeoff
missing most times < missing if someone ramdashes
obsidian nova
worst weapon ever?
Nuh uh 
obsidian nova
Hey, speaking of upgrades
The Hive would be a great upgrade to Mineral Mortar <:...
And speaking of that
This would make it so that every forbidden fragment weapon is used in a recipe
For Consistency™! 
indigo yacht
Nuh uh <:clueless:1064298508653432933>
it's actually pretty good but looks horrific
whole tundra
Hey is it just me or have these 3 suggestions been taking awfully long to have their results shown
grave zincBOT
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distant gyro
has to be manually pushed soz
craggy girder
awesome!
lucid marsh
I also kinda think the onyx chain blaster should maybe be made a post cultist weapon instead of post moon lord, it would feel better there I think
craggy girder
onyx blaster post mech1 -> ocb post ml -> onxyia post DoG is a pretty fine progression methinks
post ml is just a hackjob
lucid marsh
onyx blaster post mech1 -> ocb post ml -> onxyia post DoG is a pretty fine progr...
I mostly agree in a vacuum, but like I said there are, if I remember correctly, 17 or so guns crafted from cosmilite bars
craggy girder
i dont feel like shifting one bc of 16 others is the best, since we more or less move the issue
lucid marsh
I don't care about which is best, I just think that's too many guns in one spot
Only two of them are not donor weapons. SDFMG is being reworked into a rocket launcher, and this one is open for changes
distant gyro
the numbers got lower i think
lucid marsh
I think a better progression for the onyx blaster line would be making chain blaster crafted with vortex fragments and the Onyxia be post provi or something
lucid marsh
the numbers got lower i think
?
Also turns out the Infinity is also not a donor item so that's 3
distant gyro
17 post dog ranged weapons, 6 are guns, 2 will be moved auric eventually but neither of the two are guns (unless you count pulse rifle as a gun by appearance)
and 7 are donors
and add one appropriately if you want to count prismatic breaket
lucid marsh
Huh
whole tundra
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[**Add ...
I regret asking :(
indigo yacht
?
gritty acorn
fym ?
that moment i was complaining about angler quests u posted this peak suggestion
if this gets added id love you
indigo yacht
i posted it because we were complaining about it in nohitcord but yeah sure
gritty acorn
i posted it because we were complaining about it in nohitcord but yeah sure
can u send an invite there i wanna see if im still banned after like
3 years or sum
indigo yacht
i think u should ask one of the mods
gritty acorn
which one is a mod there?
deft yew
Couldn’t #suggestions-voting message be accomplished by just removing any Calamity changes (unnerfing it)?
misty lichen
they did imply that in the suggestion yeah
deft yew
To me it sounded like reworking it somewhat or making the Calamity nerf smaller
drowsy plank
Couldn’t https://discord.com/channels/225030931008847874/263382359397761025/1484...
no, at least according to the original dev response that made it like yharon viable apparently
drowsy plank
To me it sounded like reworking it somewhat or making the Calamity nerf smaller
that is what it is doing yeah
gilded citrus
no, at least according to the original dev response that made it like yharon via...
How 😭
hazy nacelle
at what point in progression is daytime empress considered trivial instead of a worthy challenge?
and terraprisma staying viable says nothing of Calamity's own minions
drowsy plank
Yes but its like Yharon tier viable with Vanilla stats
found it, technically shade isn't dev anymore but he was around during the vanilla port so i assume he saw base terraprisma
half imp
prisma does need a bit of a buff though
i agre
it's on my list
i plan to balance it for provi
misty lichen
no, at least according to the original dev response that made it like yharon via...
this was just summon slot scaling wasn’t it
mossy pelican
at what point in progression is daytime empress considered trivial instead of a ...
Probably around the time you could tank a hit
I’d imagine around yharon
drowsy plank
this was just summon slot scaling wasn’t it
ask shade, i wouldnt know
grim tusk
this was just summon slot scaling wasn’t it
That + Prisma's absurd iframe data and base dmg
distant gyro
definitely before this one
misty lichen
calamity bosses being massive would be an issue with this probably
distant gyro
yep
early testing terraprisma definitely abused this iframe quirk and killed everything really fast and had to be nerfed a super ton
mossy pelican
Maybe it could use another round of testing if things have changed
distant gyro
it had to be tested recently given it just got some of it nerfs peeled back to make it a challenge drop again
indigo yacht
rename to 'weird ass fucking bulletsc
drowsy plank
rename them Fibonacci bullets in reference to the golden ratio spiral or something idk anything would be better than what it is rn
crude geode
Ligma Bullets it is
drowsy plank
sure
mossy pelican
name them Doze Bullets in honor of Doze
and so you could go "Hey give me doze bullets"
drowsy plank
that's true
mossy pelican
I THOUGHT IT WAS CLEVER AND WHIMSICAL
indigo yacht
they'll find u in shoeboxes
hollow shell
Even this suggestion could have more reasoning to it, @calm knot
Would help to list out the tiers to show their gaps all in relation to each other
calm knot
Even this suggestion could have more reasoning to it, <@1172497470438248565>
W...
molto triste
hollow shell
Also your title is... strange?
"Rusted"?
calm knot
thats what R stands for
plush flame
i thought it was for rlastic
calm knot
P-Plastic
R-Rusted
B-Black
W-White
A-Auric
hollow shell
Got it
Could still say T2 to provide clarity for those who don't know
calm knot
this has actually opened my eyes to the fact that the gap between T2 and T3 is even bigger
between T1 and T2 there are only 3 required bosses
between T2 and T3 there is 5
between T3 and T4 there are 4 bosses
between T4 and T5 there (will be) 2 bosses
huh
how odd
i should think about these things more
hollow shell
:shrug: Yeah doesn't seem bad to me
calm knot
guess it just feels a lot bigger cause post-WoF is a steep curve
drowsy plank
we do not need more weapons stop making them 🙅
calm knot
me everytime after the lobotomy
indigo yacht
so true
hazy nacelle
tbh intros make repeat kills slower
drowsy plank
just do an scal
skip the cutscene after the first time/kill
depending on if it is an intro/outro cutscene
crude geode
^
fossil finch
i mean what is boc's like a second long? you can wait a second
royal tapir
BoC's repeat spawn animation is like 7-8 seconds long
fossil finch
ok yeah thats a little long
hollow shell
Current DoG fight is a "placeholder"?
calm knot
and one more small rework for good measure
crude geode
Current DoG fight is a "placeholder"?
Always has been and will be
idle dagger
that one's scrapped
It is? That’s a bit of a bummer but oh well
half imp
between T1 and T2 there are only 3 required bosses
well... what defines a required boss
drowsy plank
"required bosses" when low% enters the room
half imp
There's really only 6 required bosses in normal seeds (cultist, ml, dog, yharon, exos, scal)
north oracle
A boss i think is good enough to be on the list of required bosses for the calamity experience
drowsy plank
TRUE
half imp
So there's 2 required bosses
calm knot
for the average person not for madnen
north oracle
There's really only 6 required bosses in normal seeds (cultist, ml, dog, yharon,...
Calclone's/rav are cut?
Oh lol
Required
Not low
mossy pelican
Dont you need to beat cultist to get ml
half imp
Calclone's/rav are cut?
One of them is required, but neither is always required
mossy pelican
Oh I read wrong
north oracle
Ye
mossy pelican
I read cultist as calclone for whatever reason
craggy girder
eidolons just always spawn i think
you need to fight either ravager or calclone for a spawn req
half imp
eidolons just always spawn i think
No, they're only post WoF or clone
craggy girder
oh really
worn elk
getting hit is one of the most noticeable things ever in a fight to me personally lol
drowsy plank
@umbral gazelle why should it? im sorry this just really lacks reasoning, and it's not like auric would be the only armor that isn't named exactly what its bar is named
umbral gazelle
<@744766067989020712> why should it? im sorry this just really lacks reasoning, ...
uhm let me think
hmm
oh yeah theres nothing electricity about the armor
drowsy plank
well yeah because it hasn't been reworked yet
umbral gazelle
well yeah because it hasn't been reworked yet
oh
its planned to? if so imma delete my suggestion
drowsy plank
the new set bonus will supposedly take inspiration from auric rejection
drowsy plank
no idea lol
umbral gazelle
the new set bonus will supposedly take inspiration from auric rejection
ah
drowsy plank
probably something to do with the debuff or like that one granite accessory idk
keen zodiac
the entire point of the terrarian's auric metal is that it doesn't do rejection at all
drowsy plank
well yeah it doesnt hit you because of the souls or whatever but i imagine it could probably be used against others or something
cant find a source on where i heard about this lmfao sorry
keen zodiac
cant find a source on where i heard about this lmfao sorry
it's hidden in the annals of the amidias help dialogue
you infuse the metal with yharon soul fragments to perform a mock attunement, which entirely disables the rejection
because you put the soul in the metal itself, it thinks everything is attuned
glass arch
the only set bonus rework info ive seen is old triangle stuff
but i dont remember the specifics of that aside from "its gonna be dragon-y"
keen zodiac
hmm
drowsy plank
awesome
tame vigil
it will be an armor set
glass arch
(by old i mean before sso september-october)
indigo yacht
there will be weapons in the next calamity update
craggy girder
there will be in the next calamity update, therefore it is
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drowsy plank
eh?
quaint carbon
The fucking shroomble lmao
drowsy plank
@inland saddle sorry to bother you but i feel like there is. a significant gap in what's getting submitted into dev here
i have a suggestion with 175 and another with 120 neither of which were submitted despite 175 being the highest in like. the past two months
quaint carbon
Oh that would indeed be an issue
drowsy plank
and there's the aureus grapes one with 165 as well
it seems like a week was skipped since this was the last properly submitted one
#suggestions-voting message
earnest raptor
suggbot frequently dying gave it dementia
vestal crater
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Oh hey neat
inland saddle
I think a week or two got skipped
This would likely be correct
I’ve stepped down as dev so I can’t see the channel to know when collection runs
But if you see ones with high stars that should’ve passed but didn’t you can manually send them by reacting with ✅
hexed hamlet
no i meant the set bonus rework being electricity themed
each auric set will focus on a diferent domain, from what i remember ranged is the electric one (armor attuned to vetrasyl)
the concept was
- rogue: Life , Life dragon attuned
- Melee: Fire and rebirth, Yharon attuned
- Summoner: Death, Death dragon attuned
- Mage: Night and space, night dragon attuned
- Ranged: Electric, Vetrasyl attuned
keen zodiac
the concept was
- rogue: Life , Life dragon attuned
- Melee: Fire and rebirth, ...
wouldn't mage be mind, summoner be life and melee be light
because the pillars
neat linden
Summoner being death and rogue being life sounds a bit odd
hexed hamlet
keen zodiac
Pillars have nothing to do with auric armor
then how are you gonna separate the attunements
there's not vetrasyl soul fragments
vocal wedge
Sea Prisms?
hexed hamlet
You attune the armor in places that have memorials for said dragons
Sanctuary/ statues
keen zodiac
wait peam
craggy girder
yes! more sky structures
neat linden
more structures = good :3
craggy girder
Singular sky structure
draelab:
corro island:
planetoid:
neat linden
assuming they all generate properly
craggy girder
all evaporated by my sky arena
keen zodiac
death dragon memorial..
verdant forest minibiome confirmed?? /j
hexed hamlet
draelab:
corro island:
planetoid:
Singular sky structure as in this would only add one to vetrasyl
craggy girder
oh cool
keen zodiac
whar
craggy girder
what
keen zodiac
craggy girder
lmao???
craggy girder
triangle got a gun to the back of their head for a few seconds sob
neat linden
leakage moment
hexed hamlet
Death dragon > cathedral
Vetrasyl > sky islands
Life > perennial minibiome/ vernal pass
Yharon > surface/ aerie in the future
Night > Astral
keen zodiac
pretty cool
one problem
the astral doesn't exist until you kill wof
craggy girder
i mean its possible
hexed hamlet
It is
keen zodiac
the structure would spawn upon worldgen, no?
keen zodiac
if it didn't then it would have to be built very recently in universe
which is strange
craggy girder
also, passing question: how do accidental leaks happen and get reparated so fast
does the accidental just remember “wait shit we havent said that out loud yet”
hexed hamlet
The great anti leak system installed by ozzatron
That electrocutes devs who leak stuff with 20 voltages
craggy girder
lmfao
hexed hamlet
And delete the message
hexed hamlet
does the accidental just remember “wait shit we havent said that out loud yet”
P much
keen zodiac
how long until triangle becomes electro
crude geode
Can’t believe we got Ares bot in cal discord
drowsy plank
I'll do that then later
i can take everything between the two proper submission periods and calculate what the top 20% would be if you wanna mark those later. not rn bc i only am here bc i woke up randomly but when you think about doing it i could. or i could make them myself atp it dont really matter
half imp
whatever works
mossy pelican
i cant wait to become death, destroyer of worlds
gilded citrus
Always found it a bit odd i also support this
gilded citrus
ok counterpoint triggerfish look completely different so it;d need a resprite
Just dont resprite it duh
half imp
@rancid saddle you should probably also note that triggerfish are also a real fish in there (I had to Google it to check, and most people reading it probably won't care enough to check)
plush flame
archerfish (calamity)
plush flame
so it would need a resprite alongside the rename to coincide with the real thing
i do like the suggestion though
mossy pelican
travis scott fish
plush flame
also triggerfish have teeth instead of spitting water
half imp
sure but they look cooler and it's a better name
plush flame
true they do look sick
quaint carbon
triggerfish
He’s so geeked
half imp
archerfish rework where it's helstorm 3 and it bites the enemies at close range
plush flame
archerfish all look real similar ngl
while triggerfish have a pretty good variety of colours
rancid saddle
archerfish (calamity)
it looks like neither of them rn 😭
plush flame
pretty fishy <3
rancid saddle
Always found it a bit odd i also support this
I was watching a youtube video and was shocked it didn’t use arrows
half imp
I was an active part of the community for like 4 months before I learned it was a gun
Hear me out... Make it use water buckets as ammo
rancid saddle
wait second option maie archerfish use arrows
plush flame
i get why its named archerfish though, its the genera that spits projectiles at things
rancid saddle
Hear me out... Make it use water buckets as ammo
plush flame
redtoothed triggerfish looks like it could fit as an abyss enemy ngl
half imp
peak
rancid saddle
i didnt realise they were big
They’re quite huge and also quite aggressive, I think the change would fit since you’re holding a giant ass fish gun in your hand
plush flame
the teeth just made me think of a dunkleosteus abyss enemy
possible replacement for reaper shark
echo leaf
it’s a melee blunt weapon… you stab jt and it bites people
rancid saddle
the teeth just made me think of a dunkleosteus abyss enemy
the dunk could be a replacement name for the abyss crusher
echo leaf
le dunk
plush flame
the only problem is that dunkleosteus are kinda small
vestal crater
Abyss blade “upgrade” that is just throwing a dunkleosteus
vestal crater
the only problem is that dunkleosteus are kinda small
I don’t think that’s a problem for cal with like 100 meter long sea worms
Actually that prob exists irl
Wouldn’t fool me
plush flame
closest thing would be an oarfish probably
indigo yacht
itty bitty
rancid saddle
closest thing would be an oarfish probably
new whip idea
boreal lichen
the dunk could be a replacement name for the abyss crusher
this could be cool but there might be a new acid rain enemy in the future thats a dunkleosteus
plush flame
life tends to not really do long thin and bendy underwater
boreal lichen
since the event is prehistoric themed along with the rest of the biome
buoyant tangle
plush flame
it works quite well with snakes
but not super well in oceans outside of things that are tiny
worms can do it but theyre also buried
plush flame
this could be cool but there might be a new acid rain enemy in the future thats ...
i do wonder how that'd be done
indigo yacht
fish
lost spire
The sprite has a gun barrel on it, how could you possibly mistake it for a bow?
indigo yacht
the name
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drowsy plank
in case anyone was wondering, i got the missing week and you can see the general idea here;
there were 43 suggestions in the gap, and 1/5th of that is 9 when rounded up so those are the ones i hit after sorting
polar bison
Aureus Grapes in second place dear god
novel belfry
laughing rn at how my rework burning sky sugg got 20 more stars than the make burning sky joke hit even harder
drowsy plank
i do think it is very funny how 1/3rd of the suggestions that passed were mine
half imp
biased
earnest raptor
i do think it is very funny how 1/3rd of the suggestions that passed were mine
the duke of suggestions
drowsy plank
mine actually won that's crazy I thought it lost the voting
i mean arguably you could've
you were tied for last
it's only because the two of you tied and 20% of 43 is 8.6 rounded up is 9 that urs got in
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indigo yacht
huh
drowsy plank
i assume it was what doze said and onion will just work in all difficulties now
humble scarab
or the slot got fully removed :tf:
drowsy plank
why would they do that
humble scarab
idk, i was just joking
half imp
i assume it was what doze said and onion will just work in all difficulties now
Yeah
thats the plan
drowsy plank
makes sense
mossy pelican
this is prolly gonna get locked if I had to guess
indigo yacht
why's that
mossy pelican
They probably want it
idle dagger
I did a project on this fish I love it
worthy lintel
the difficulty of empress vanilla is resisting the urge to go hoverboard + soaring insignia
🐴
novel belfry
suggestion is too specific ngl
worthy lintel
also scaling stuff is basically branded with white hot iron
community gets a pass due to its significance
but thats it
drowsy plank
community and shattered community are a meme on purpose
scaling is bad
also i feel like this prolly surpassed the 1k character limit
also you should ping them if ur flagging it
worthy lintel
new coat of paint pfp huh
drowsy plank
@serene tendon
worthy lintel
wondrous hair
drowsy plank
thx lmao
worthy lintel
right fuck its the second time i exclam something and forget to ping
mossy pelican
I dont hate the idea
mossy pelican
Maybe an exhumed terraprisma?
That functions similarly to the scaling of shattered cal community?
Where it only starts counting after you get it
worthy lintel
anything that involves scaling is doomed from the get go
scaling is harmful to both item economy and balance
worthy lintel
why bother try a new sword when the one i have since eye has better damage now
type stuff
mossy pelican
I honestly think exhumed terraprisma might be the solution but no one will agree with me
worthy lintel
also its vanilla's fault for their botched attempt of a challenge resulting in a ridiculous weapon
drowsy plank
I honestly think exhumed terraprisma might be the solution but no one will agree...
exhumed terraprisma isn't the solution because there is no solution to a scaling item
terraprisma should just be rebalanced and reconsidered in general in what its niche is
mossy pelican
Im not saying for it to scale, I agree that scaling is bad mostly. I’m saying that it might be better to create an exhumed form that is worth the trouble than it would be to try to make terraprisma fit right
worthy lintel
on that end its hard to blame because there's basically no rules for exhumed candidates
its kinda just
whatever weapon would be cool to imagine as exhumed + a dev wanting to work on it
drowsy plank
yeah
also exhumes have been brought up as a "solution" for a lot of things (ex; insignia, zenith, and now prisma as well), and they never really solve the issue
worthy lintel
ironically enough zenith has a case on anti-exhume
an untainted, famous vanilla item rivaling auric gear
vocal wedge
Zenith is just built different.
vocal wedge
It has the Copper Shortsword. But it is not a shortsword. Much to consider.
vocal wedge
Every class should have a shortsword equivalent.
Short gun.
Short wand.
Short people to fight for you.
Short knife.
serene tendon
also i feel like this prolly surpassed the 1k character limit
Is that something separate from what Discord's non-Nitro limit is?
rancid saddle
The sprite has a gun barrel on it, how could you possibly mistake it for a bow?
The name
serene tendon
scaling is harmful to both item economy and balance
Normally, yeah I'd agree, but considering it's arguably more effort to beat daytime Empress, especially on Revengeance or Death, than to upgrade weapons all those times, I figured it'd be fine. Also, isn't the eventual Murasama rework going to scale?
half imp
I don't think it's really scaling
but I don't know the plans
I think it's more like it's upgradable
vocal wedge
Murasama fans have had it too good for too long.
serene tendon
this entire weapon rework hinges on konami not suing azafure inc
Nah Konami is cool, they would never
They're no Nintendo
worthy lintel
byeah i think the intent for murasama rework is more like
upgrading it, which is just a fancier crafting tree with the bonus of being able to (maybe) tweak the weapon's stats
and not the can of worms that is scaling
drowsy plank
Nah Konami is cool, they would never
what are you talking about of course they would
if they ever felt like calamity was actually greatly infringing on their copyright they would sue azafure in a heartbeart
konami is not special in how it behaves as a company
novel belfry
what are you talking about of course they would
if they ever felt like calamity ...
sue azafure? what?
drowsy plank
azafure LLC
novel belfry
why are they sueing a fictional
drowsy plank
the company that holds the calamity IP
novel belfry
oh
vocal wedge
why are they sueing a fictional
To teach them a lesson.
rancid saddle
hot take remove the stupid postml axe summon and replace it’s recipe with terraprisma
too many weapons at terraprismas tier and terraprism is basically just the same weapon
indigo yacht
no? it's not? and also what?
rancid saddle
The legion of celestia other than its hover attacks very similar to terraprisma
half imp
hot take remove the stupid postml axe summon and replace it’s recipe with terrap...
no
Prisma is a nohit challenge reward and so won't be included in any weapon lines
half imp
The legion of celestia other than its hover attacks very similar to terraprisma
It's far more like Blade Staff than Prisma
rancid saddle
Move blade staff to post ml and put prisma where blade staff is
oblique birch
keep cooking
indigo yacht
now we're talking
mystic sandal
Combine blade staff and prisma into one singular weapon, and make it dropped by queen slime when killed during the daytime but only if the fight was started at midnight and a lacewing is in the player’s inventory
rancid saddle
also like in all seriousness I don’t get why they want it to be changed in calamity because in vanilla its almost the same progression wise
Like its good but still worse than stardust dragon for ml
indigo yacht
not in calamity
mystic sandal
Prisma was absolutely CRAZY for a while there in vanilla and I don’t think most people know that it got nerfed
rancid saddle
Is terra better than drag in calamity?
mystic sandal
I remember it being used on yharon pre-1.4.4
rancid saddle
Then whats the complaint?
glass arch
dragon i dont think is particularly great in cal is it
rancid saddle
A weapon from a challenge is really good but not for too long? Lol
indigo yacht
dragon i dont think is particularly great in cal is it
it's not
rancid saddle
dragon i dont think is particularly great in cal is it
Huh ig I havent used it in a while
indigo yacht
the 50% damage nerf did a number on it
tame vigil
i need to lower the resist that deus has. it was fine before brainstorm i'm unsure what the hell happened to it
indigo yacht
just don't lower it too much
rancid saddle
i need to lower the resist that deus has. it was fine before brainstorm i'm unsu...
Half the fun of deus is doing 10k to it haha
craggy girder
dragon i dont think is particularly great in cal is it
its good to spawn exactly one
any more and you lose more dps per minion
if im not wrong you wanna spawn
2 slots for wither blossom
1 slot for dragon
1/The Rest slot(s) for cell staff
presuming you dont get terraprisma
indigo yacht
where'd you see that
craggy girder
it worked for me lmao
half imp
i need to lower the resist that deus has. it was fine before brainstorm i'm unsu...
It would be better to just (edit: checked the numbers it's actually fine except on deus)
Buff dragon base dmg
so it's more usable in general
craggy girder
whats dragons base damage?
i remember it being demonstrably low compared to what i remembered
half imp
20
quaint carbon
Prisma was absolutely CRAZY for a while there in vanilla and I don’t think most ...
Only change I could find that could be considered a nerf
craggy girder
20
what the fuck
why is it 20
isnt it like 45 or something in base game
its 40
craggy girder
why not 30
half imp
Maybe
half imp
why not 30
absolutely will end up too strong
craggy girder
funky equation
craggy girder
im not exactly concerned abt stardust dragon on deus to be honest
craggy girder
like yeah it needs some resistance but not like. overall a threat if one summon hurts a worm boss a lil much
half imp
Well like
It gets almost perfectly balanced on ml
At 20
25 is. Actually probably too much
literally 21 or 22
craggy girder
twenty fuckin 2
craggy girder
whats its current resist?
keen zodiac
5 million
errant wren
at least 2
craggy girder
eeyikes
half imp
I am not really sure why deus isn't melting to dragon anymore
The resist was unchanged
and pre BS it absolutely did melt
half imp
Lower HP is like
The only thing I see
And even that only effected classic and expert
Not rev
nothing else looks like it should change dragon viability
dense locust
I am not really sure why deus isn't melting to dragon anymore
I have noticed minions being excessively dumb vs deus
indigo yacht
unlisted deus buff where minions lose 40 iq points as soon as it enters second phase
craggy girder
improper format + they're gonna do that
glass arch
actually no this is technically correct formatting
craggy girder
does the bot know that first section to be true
blah blah blah. blah blah blah blah
glass arch
the bot will read the entirety of the first paragraph as the title and the last line as the body
keen zodiac
@uncut widget improper formatting + whips are already planned
keen zodiac
the bot will read the entirety of the first paragraph as the title and the last ...
wait
that'd be so funny
oh nvm
uncut widget
<@384090028856573952> improper formatting + whips are already planned
Ayyyyy I’m excited to see them
keen zodiac
got 🗜️ 'd
obsidian nova
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gilded citrus
Dubious mystery
obsidian nova
draelab:
corro island:
planetoid:
Corro island is getting replaced
And sky houses are too
obsidian nova
death dragon memorial..
verdant forest minibiome confirmed?? /j
Pretty sure it's already in the future content?
gritty acorn
is it wearer or worner
keen zodiac
wearer
keen zodiac
i think it's good
humble scarab
wouldnt #1178515062030348308 be better?
keen zodiac
oh possibly
gritty acorn
idk
cuz technically that was a different ability that im asking to reimplement in a new way
lucid marsh
I think the Silva set is definitely still usable, the revive can help if you were close to getting a potion back. It's basically one extra hit per life
gritty acorn
only in said condition
usually if youre low enough to trigger a revive youd alrdy have consumed a potion
lucid marsh
I still think it should have a slightly better revive so your suggestion is fine
gritty acorn
ye
lucid marsh
In my experience the revive is valuable, but I also tend not to get hit multiple times in a row against yharon
gritty acorn
lwk thats a skill issue of my part
gritty acorn
silva revive is like 10
seconds of i frames no
consider the fact on how squishy it is
also i dont think its 10
craggy girder
its a long ass time
gritty acorn
its 5
north oracle
a good offensive use of it is rlly stupid
craggy girder
i personally would be fine if it ubercharged regen for a very short
time on activation, instead of just giving you health
north oracle
but this isn't entirely unvalidated, there's a reason godslayer rogue tends to be better for defensive builds
gritty acorn
not only that but fearmonger was already better than it before this nerf
keen zodiac
i personally would be fine if it ubercharged regen for a very short
time on acti...
that sounds cool
north oracle
when there's a set that has a revive ontier
gritty acorn
i dont see why silva needs a nerf
craggy girder
was it?
craggy girder
i tend to lean silva even if fearmongwr just cause i dont like fearmonger sov
gritty acorn
i just like how silva set is
i dont want to use another class for fearmonger
but i know that fearmonger is much better than silva
and i always knew that even before the nerf
craggy girder
i mean isnt fearmonger good for summoner and mage kinda just gets screwed
gritty acorn
its busted for summoner, mage honestly
eh
well its tanky
fearmonger allows you to multiclass tho, which is absolutely massive
kinda breaks a bit of balance
it always was theoretically better than silva, i dont see why silva got a nerf in this patch
not just that, silva immunity was 8 seconds long
im fine with that reduction honestly, i just want my 100hp revive
craggy girder
okay but like multiclassing is not Awesome ( / slightly joking )
gritty acorn
okay but like multiclassing is not Awesome ( / slightly joking )
i mean i dont find it fun
buuut
i know that it can be good
and with fearmonger its VEERY good
silva was alrdy in a rough spot before, now its even worse than before
keen zodiac
booooooooo let it stay silly
keen zodiac
actually nvm change it to this
craggy girder
this is bad silly
craggy girder
actually nvm change it to this
Yes
gritty acorn
#suggestions-posting messageis this good
gritty acorn
actually nvm change it to this
ong
gritty acorn
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ok wait it obviously isnt
but that would be cool
crude geode
he looks like a chud man
He is a chud
mossy pelican
actually nvm change it to this
This should be his portrait once 1.4.5 comes out
keen zodiac
indigo yacht
calling the revive useless is ridiculous, otherwise all these suggestions are good
royal tapir
Elsilution
indigo yacht
sure why not
golden sonnet
I feel like this completely neglects the fact it now negates all damage giving you time to heal back up
If you were getting hit during revive time before, you now get much more health from the revive, especially if using high Regen or lifesteal
indigo yacht
i think giving hp on revive is a fine idea, but i definitely disagree with the sentiment expressed in the suggestion
silva revive is incredibly good idk what they're on about i just don't think increasing the revive health is something that'll make it broken
hazy nacelle
does Nebulous Core revive give you any protection?
indigo yacht
nebulous core revive is bad 💔
hazy nacelle
and then you also have Permafrost's Concoction to compare to
indigo yacht
it doesn't
hazy nacelle
so yeah every revive is different
royal tapir
Nebulous Core gives the least protection but has the shortest cooldown
gritty acorn
I feel like this completely neglects the fact it now *negates all damage* giving...
i mean that always was a thing before
right?
i think that was the case
indigo yacht
no you could still get hit
gritty acorn
calling the revive useless is ridiculous, otherwise all these suggestions are go...
its basically a redo of the nebulous core with 2 frames of invincibility
indigo yacht
you just wouldn't die until the 7 seconds were up
indigo yacht
now you just don't take damage until the 5 seconds are up (unless I'm mistaken)
gritty acorn
now you cant deny the other one smh
best suggestion ever
i make it sound like a joke but i lwk think it would be a cool thing
half imp
Silva revive is still 8 full seconds of invincibility essentially
indigo yacht
8?
gritty acorn
isnt it 5
half imp
Maybe it's 5
indigo yacht
oh right idk why i thought it used to be 7
gritty acorn
i didnt rly know that
i thought it was like the old invincibility
i deleted the suggestion, valid enough point
indigo yacht
now you cant deny the other one smh
i do find it odd that he doesn't react to the player taking no damage
gritty acorn
ya
obv this would be a vanity feature, but it would be hilarious if he reacted if u took no dmg to a head hit
half imp
more work than it's worth to implement
gritty acorn
dang
half imp
Tbh
gritty acorn
i mean it would be cool
half imp
but hey if it passes here and in dev
gritty acorn
like with how cocky he is id crack up if i saw his message after dodging his hit
indigo yacht
can't you just have the boss check if a dodge went on cooldown right before showing the text
half imp
okay wait on the 4 brain charge the real brain doesn't do contact damage??
gritty acorn
what brain charge
worthy lintel
tbh i think devourer would be way more upset at rams than dodges
like
random ass terrarian consistently beating him on his turf?
i'd be livid
craggy girder
i personally think he partially slices himself ( unintentionally) on his portals while trying to charge you down and its really cool in my head
this is a nothingburger sugg
however, it would be fun
indigo yacht
this wouldn't even be helpful
craggy girder
i argue so
indigo yacht
more often than not the thing that's preventing you from dashing is your current speed not your dash cooldown
all this would be doing is confusing people
"i can't dash again for a second even though my cooldown is already up"
craggy girder
well then have the cooldown show that i suppode
indigo yacht
how would you do that
craggy girder
if you dash, the cooldown persists until you meet the requirements, then fades the cooldown
indigo yacht
i don't see how that would be at all useful
since there's no indication of how much time is left
it would just be something that blinks on and off
craggy girder
it would very likely say “Dash Cooldown” and would show up when someone dashes
indigo yacht
that doesn't answer my question
craggy girder
whats your question
indigo yacht
how is it helpful
craggy girder
visual information for those who wanna focus on the fight and can see their perifery however you spell it
focus a tad more on the fight at hand rather than your dash cooldown
craggy girder
ramdash builds
indigo yacht
if you're building around a ramdash and cant take the time to figure out the dash timings...
deft yew
This is just TMI
indigo yacht
it's not harmful i just think it wouldn't actually be useful
half imp
I think it actually is harmful as it makes it harder to notice the more important information on the cooldown rack
Saros beam I do need to add an indicator for
fossil finch
i think if something is really short and too constant it should not rlly have a cooldown indicator in the rack like lifesteal or, yeah, dashes
oblique birch
I agree that having dash cooldown appearing on the Rack is very unnecessary
drowsy plank
im sure you could just do something with particles assuming this is even necessary at all
keen zodiac
or a sound cue like when reaching max mana
indigo yacht
im sure you could just do something with particles assuming this is even necessa...
that one vanilla thing when ur mana refills
craggy girder
maybe not for dashes tho if it's like
aegis or smthn lmao
deep diver:
stark meadow
deep diver:
NO
plush flame
kind laurel
https://discord.com/channels/225030931008847874/263382359397761025/1485221631600...
I'd work on it myself and do CalArt Asset Submissions if I had any skills
restive wharf
Is my suggestion ever getting mentioned by the suggestion bot
kind laurel
What was it
restive wharf
Accent rusted pipes
For builders
Requires absolutely no spriting, just the addition of an identical variant of the rusted pipes with different merging
kind laurel
After this long I doubt it
restive wharf
It's different to build large amounts of pipes without them merging weirdly
I thought it would be common sense
quaint carbon
Did I exceed the character limit lmao
crude geode
Rip
quaint carbon
Lemme figure out how to trim this hang on
crude geode
Yeah aggro being tied to melee is a little frustrating when there’s so many accessories in vanilla that increase aggro
craggy girder
bloody worm knuckles from post ml perfs
quaint carbon
That would go hard but that would also mean I have to WAITTTTTT
indigo yacht
i just want to say that all aggro does functionally is trick the enemy into thinking you're closer to them than you actually are
12 aggro is equivalent to 1 tile
so with 120 aggro the boss will think you're 10 tiles closer to it than you actually are
if your teammate is more than 10 tiles closer to the boss than you are it'll still target your teammate
mossy pelican
Just put the flesh knuckles upgrade thing in the crafting tree with the elemental glove
Ezpz
quaint carbon
I was thinking the same thing
indigo yacht
HOW does that help non melee classes take aggro
quaint carbon
Well, actually, that would still be a problem
mossy pelican
Melee should be the only aggro class
quaint carbon
If multiple people are going melee then the gauntlet will be part of that. Aggro would still be tied among players.
mossy pelican
Other classes are too squishy
polar bison
Wish granted, flares increase aggro
indigo yacht
Other classes are too squishy
counterpoint i never play melee and my friend always does and he sucks ass
mossy pelican
Maybe certain wings could increase aggro
quaint carbon
I also don’t mind that melee is the only aggro class. What I want is an extra accessory that a melee user can choose to wear to break the tie between their fellow melee teammates for Post-ML
mossy pelican
Dont need to add more items necessarily
quaint carbon
Maybe certain wings could increase aggro
Not a bad idea
quaint carbon
i just want to say that all aggro does functionally is trick the enemy into thin...
By the way, yeah I do know this
Obviously you still need to make sure you’re close to the boss
But increased aggro helps make sure they stay on your ass
mossy pelican
“Flask of aggression” Striking an enemy while under the effects of this flask causes the enemy to target you at a much higher rate than other players
indigo yacht
if post ml bosses had more target swapping moments i would say to just "stay away if you're not trying to take aggro" but they have like 2 every 15 minutes
actually not many bosses do
quaint carbon
DoG teleports a lot :p
But I do see your point
You could also introduce a new modifier that increases aggro on accessories, or maybe even give aggro to Yharim’s Gift and make it an actually good accessory (but that would make it locked behind Yharon so idk)
half imp
Yharims Gift already has a minor rework coming up soon
quaint carbon
I see
drowsy plank
@buoyant tangle what do you mean "you assume"
buoyant tangle
i haven't killed enough of the lures to know how many it takes to fully complete the entry
(I'm not sure if the wiki has a count needed to complete each entry)
and ofc this really affects only me specifically since i'm one of like 3 people that care enough to complete the modded bestiary, but it annoys me so i will COMPLAIN!
quaint carbon
No I also agree it’s annoying
buoyant tangle
actually i just noticed the little leviathan spawns complete their entry when the boss is defeated
quaint carbon
Lunatic Cultist famously gives you the Phantasm Dragon and Ancient Vision entries even if you don’t encounter them in his fight
buoyant tangle
yeah a lot of boss minions do that (sharkrons, creepers, etc)
quaint carbon
Why is ??? any different
buoyant tangle
i don't think any Calamity boss that has minions does (for instance these from Hive Mind)
drowsy plank
drowsy plank
and ofc this really affects only me specifically since i'm one of like 3 people ...
you should make sure what you're talking about is actually accurate before complaining about it
im still looking to see if there's a number associated with this somewhere
quaint carbon
I think it’s still a fair complaint if it takes more than one in the first place
buoyant tangle
ik that is coming from a good place but i cannot be bothered to kill the lure, teleport home, wait for the boss to despawn, then teleport back 50 times
hazy nacelle
default bestiary entry is 50 kills
buoyant tangle
the cultists at the dungeon (not the boss) also has a similar problem but its much, MUCH less annoying since it takes only 25 kills to complete their entries and you get two kills per spawn
drowsy plank
does anyone know where the bestiary custom values are actually set because it's not in this function like i expected
bosses dont require 50 kills right
buoyant tangle
Giant Clam needs 50 (god save me)
buoyant tangle
bosses dont require 50 kills right
all bosses take 1 yeah (except those FUCKS from the holiday moons)
drowsy plank
weird
hazy nacelle
btw blood squids from dreadnautilus are on their own banner and bestiary tally too
drowsy plank
so i was right about bestiary kill values being set somewhere else
hazy nacelle
lots of things that should take less kills still take the full 50
buoyant tangle
btw blood squids from dreadnautilus are on their own banner and bestiary tally t...
at least they only take 10 iirc and you can just kinda sit there and dodge dreadnautilus for a bit
drowsy plank
since im looking at the bosses proper and they dont have any unique exceptions in said function that seems to do everything else
buoyant tangle
oh no its 50. i think i opened dragonlens for that
drowsy plank
if you confirmed it like that then it's fine, im just not going to allow a suggestion through on an assumption
hazy nacelle
oh no its 50. i think i opened dragonlens for that
yes, it's terribad
buoyant tangle
(and just an FYI, yes i did try to use dragonlens spawn menu to just mass kill ???/the evil 2 cysts. it only lets you kill one at a time before the boss spawns and the others despawn)
hazy nacelle
I have More Obtaining Tooltips showing how many kills it takes for each banner
Plaguebringer is a miniboss that requires 50 kills and has a banner as well taking 50 kills
dunno about the new Burrower, Armored Digger had the same issue
Earth Elemental actually does only take 25
buoyant tangle
burrower is 50 i think
hazy nacelle
25 for burrower
indigo yacht
I'd like to say that NPC.rarity is what defines bestiary count but I can't be certain
keen zodiac
I'd like to say that NPC.rarity is what defines bestiary count but I can't be ce...
no, it's if it's classified as a critter, enemy, miniboss or boss
indigo yacht
ok but like what is it then
because i'm looking at earth elemental
and i don't see anything that would define bestiary kill count
indigo yacht
not in the file
why... why does earth elemental have a sell price... incredible
u can't even bug net it
it doesnt have an item
indigo yacht
<https://github.com/CalamityTeam/CalamityModPublic/blob/40e6b18f1dc6b54145922b4a...
how does this make earth elemental 25 but normal enemies 50
quaint carbon
This is why I need to code for the Calamity mod
hazy nacelle
check the BannerKillRequirement
hazy nacelle
yes, each banner defines how many kills are required and it defaults to 50 if they don't specify
quaint carbon
So even though every critter is the same, it still had to be defined for each banner since it’s different from 50?
Fuckin weird
indigo yacht
fun fact
pbg contact damage is 180 which is roughly on par with the other bosses, but with Plagued it becomes 270
additionally her missiles and mines go from 140/160 to 170/205 which is notably higher than any(non contact damage)thing that you compare it with besides cthulhunados
quaint carbon
Didn’t you already share this in the balance report?
indigo yacht
i did and was told it was only for items
idk where else to put it unless i want to be obnoxious
and i don't really
indigo yacht
additionally her missiles and mines go from 140/160 to 170/205 which is notably ...
decanter reduces the damage to 225 and 155/182.5, and honey dew in theory reduces them to 219 and 153/180 or something
drowsy plank
im ngl i dunno when or why it was decided boss balance suggestions shouldn't go in. the balance forums
indigo yacht
i was talking about this in tiercord and shade... or clockwork I'm afraid I'm not sure who told me to put it in the balance forums 😭
indigo yacht
solution to what
indigo yacht
incredible
crude geode
God remember when the plague flask thing or whatever made you just immune to plague
half imp
Genuinely might happen, radiance line is all way too strong
crude geode
Real
drowsy plank
to be fair that doesn't really solve the base damage being an outlier on PBG
half imp
shh
craggy girder
its just gonna say "+10 max life. applies honey permenantly"
indigo yacht
it also doesn't solve the catastrophic plague dps
craggy girder
and hten its just gonna be honey
half imp
who said anything about max life
half imp
Honey is very good
indigo yacht
it also doesn't solve the catastrophic plague dps
6 seconds of -15hp/s is 90 damage right there
indigo yacht
Honey is very good
am i correct in thinking honey reduces plagued to -13hp/s
or am i tripping
half imp
The buff provides an increased health regeneration of +1 health per second and increases natural heal rate acceleration by a factor of three. In addition, it reduces the damage from damaging debuffs like On Fire!, Poisoned, and Acid Venom by 2 health per second.
This is what honey does
craggy girder
that is not insane
half imp
yes it is
craggy girder
can you show me a graph