suggestions-discussion

[drowsy plank]

@deft yew did you get donor permission for this

[deft yew]

no

gone

[pure verge]

perhaps just make a resource pack for it?

[vocal wedge]

I believe someone already did.

[pure verge]

yep

[calm knot]

try it and see if its any good

[vocal wedge]

Pretty sure all it does is rename Moon Lord to 'Fovos, the Moon Lord' which is arguably less accurate since they are two seperate names.

[pure verge]

it seemingly treats "the Moon Lord" more like a title than a name

[calm knot]

which i think makes more sense but that don't mean jack or shit

[vocal wedge]

Well he's not actually the lord of the moon, its where he's imprisoned. It's just a name made up for it, potentially by you, the player, with your 'creative' naming ability.

[calm knot]

mistranslation from chrysadian

[vocal wedge]

Chrysonai called it Fovos.

[calm knot]

exactly,,,

[keen zodiac]

there's probably gonna be a chrysonai book that calls him fovos

[calm knot]

true

[hollow shell]

@calm knot
Would giving Moon Lord a lore item with this name in it not be a significantly less disruptive way to do this?

[calm knot]

probably

[rancid lotus]

Could make a Legendary Item.

Moon Lord Trophy is already a 10% chance.

[vocal wedge]

What, make Moon Lord drop a drivers license from Chrysadia with 'John S. Fovos' written on it?

[rancid lotus]

Imagine this but it's Fovos holding Yharon.

[vocal wedge]

No, Zeratros.

[earnest raptor]

then there's xeroc propaganda's ikon, where zeratros seemingly gifts his soul to him

[keen zodiac]

oh automod

a

automod?

hm

[echo leaf]

dead

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/350387256583782400/1432614067951898754/yUswOVj.gif

[keen zodiac]

🎉

[lean surge]

Kill 9 billion scam bots

[serene tendon]

Only? Come on, we can do better than that

[rancid lotus]

It should be a Yharim Voodoo Doll, that'd make more sense in-lore.

[gritty acorn]

voodoo doll?

ong

[keen zodiac]

the item existing fundamentally makes no sense

[gritty acorn]

i just reread

[keen zodiac]

renaming will not help

[gritty acorn]

will help jusst a little

i had another suggestion

just yharon's egg shells spawning somewhere in the jungle

and u can only mine it with a uelibloom or luminite pickaxe

[rancid lotus]

Put Yharon in the 1/100,000 for Calamity Boss every second mod.

[keen zodiac]

locking yharon postmoonlord why?

[keen zodiac]

[gritty acorn]

rn what tier is he at

like

[keen zodiac]

you can fight him post cultist

[gritty acorn]

ig golem pick

picksaw

is that good?

oh wait

no

nnoonononon

nvm

[keen zodiac]

that would just make golem required for low%

[gritty acorn]

i forgot cultist can be fought without golem

Ig just make them collectable any time in hardmode

is hardmode necessary for low%

[keen zodiac]

technically no

but it helps

[gritty acorn]

well im sure u can collect a hardmode pickaxe in another way

reaper shark

eh

[rancid lotus]

Should the game be changed to make Low% better or to make actualgame% better?

[gritty acorn]

no

[keen zodiac]

ravager drops life alloy which can be shimmered down

[gritty acorn]

veryfunny% spamton

[keen zodiac]

and is required for yharon anyway

[gritty acorn]

ok then good enough

adamantite pickaxe

is that a good suggestion in general?

[rancid lotus]

Remember Ravager is being moved to a Post-Providence Side-Boss eventually™.

[keen zodiac]

i think the spawn method could be a lot better in general
like, not using the "hold item in air" technique

[gritty acorn]

here wait

[rancid lotus]

I call it Slime Crownslop.

[gritty acorn]

i have an idea

[keen zodiac]

shoot

[rancid lotus]

What happened?

[gritty acorn]

yharon's egg shells and his nest will spawn randomly in the jungle

big ass egg shells and nest

u break both

[keen zodiac]

shoot as in shoot the question

[gritty acorn]

u place both on ur arena

u right click the placed egg shells

yharon swoops in

[keen zodiac]

yharon isn't a jungle boss anymore

[gritty acorn]

yes

[keen zodiac]

but a nest could be neat

[rancid lotus]

Yharon doesn't need eggs.

[gritty acorn]

but he is the jungle dragon

[keen zodiac]

no

[gritty acorn]

and it would make it less of a pain to find it

yk

[keen zodiac]

he's the dragon of rebirth

[rancid lotus]

I think making something that's more like a threat to Yharim would make more sense.

[gritty acorn]

maybe like

[keen zodiac]

no affiliation with the jungle at all

[gritty acorn]

cuz hes affiliated to yharim?

idk

[rancid lotus]

Like burning a Yharim Scarecrow.

[gritty acorn]

i thought of a way to find it easily

[keen zodiac]

yharim is also unrelated to the jungle

[rancid lotus]

Yharon fights us because he's scared we'll kill his bestie (Yharim).

[gritty acorn]

dang

i need to update my lore knowledge

[keen zodiac]

i may know of something you seek

[gritty acorn]

then ig ill update my suggestion

si

[rancid lotus]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1LKTHNV3OpIQ88dozfzQhTvEylV1qzzwQeAsW77wf74c/edit?usp=drivesdk
Here's the Lore Doc for Calamity.

[keen zodiac]

second pin in #lore-discussion
google doc made for introducing people to the lore

yeah that one

[gritty acorn]

ok ty

wait imma update the post rq

[keen zodiac]

anyway an idea said by a dev that i really love (but sadly won't be used probably) is that yharon would spawn automatically post dog and roam around the world hunting you
if he catches you, it triggers the bossfight so you have to hide and shit
and it won't be too annoying since you'll be spending most of your time in the distortion anyway

and there would be an item to instantly call him to you

[gritty acorn]

updated le post

[keen zodiac]

probably still won't pass since it's too specific tbh

but i like the direction of a nest

[gritty acorn]

Hmm

let me think of a change that would make it less specific

maybe its the mining conditions that made it look specific

wait

[rancid lotus]

I think he should be flying around the place in the background but will only join the player's layer if they use the spawn item.

[earnest raptor]

that kinda will just make overworld very uncomfortable

[keen zodiac]

that just neuters it completely

[keen zodiac]

is that a problem

[rancid lotus]

The idea neuters the overworld.

[keen zodiac]

status quo is lame and dumb

[earnest raptor]

deerclops spawns randomly naturally and not many people appreciate that for bases and stuff

[gritty acorn]

im p sure once u kill him he doesnt spawn anymore

[keen zodiac]

> since you'll be spending most of your time in the distortion anyway

[gritty acorn]

i thought about something

[rancid lotus]

Why not have him only do that on the outer edges of the world like King Slime can.
Make it that he doesn't do that after you defeat him the first time.
And add an item that blocks him from fighting you.

[gritty acorn]

How about like

instead of clicking the egg tiles

u chug lava at it

[keen zodiac]

that would make repeated refights way too annoying probably

[earnest raptor]

nope!

[gritty acorn]

youd have an bottomless lava bucket

[gritty acorn]

oh

[gritty acorn]

or you can have a lava duper above

[keen zodiac]

well yeah the last two would obviously happen

[rancid lotus]

If all these criterias are met I think that could be a fun idea.

As long as it's easily toggleable I see not big issue.

[keen zodiac]

but good game design isn't only about making the player comfortable

[rancid lotus]

But the toggle should be clearly shown to the player.

[keen zodiac]

there should be shifts in the dynamic

wrath of the gods significantly changes the world and upsets the status quo, and it's one of the most praised mods out there

the same can even be applied to hardmode in vanilla

[earnest raptor]

yes, but vanilla bosses don't randomly hunt you for existing

[keen zodiac]

natural spawns already basically do that

this is just a more interesting evolution of that concept

requiring active gameplay to avoid

[rancid lotus]

People only have a problem with Natural Spawns when it's in early hardmode where they're too common.

[rancid lotus]

At least from my conversations.

[earnest raptor]

yes, but mechs and pirates require altar to be smashed....

[keen zodiac]

that's just standard progression
this would also require standard progression (killing dog)

[gritty acorn]

how about we replace yharon's ai with duke fishron

[coral carbon]

Smashing altars is also literally how you do anything at the start of hardmode I dont see the point here

[humble scarab]

doesnt he has it already?

[gritty acorn]

this time make it so 50% of the time u fish up yharon

[earnest raptor]

yes, but you have a choice to prepare better if you know about this mechanic

[keen zodiac]

the same would apply here

[humble scarab]

ye

i see no issues even when you know about the mechanic

cuz most wont know what causes it

[earnest raptor]

although calamity automatically smashes the altars, so I guess "bosses cannot ascend beyond your control" thing doesn't work anymore

...will it be possible to build a base in distortion, though?

or it will be "you are inflicted with creative shock" like every other subworld out there?

[humble scarab]

it would be cool if you could build after killing DoG

and his events

or just DoG

[umbral gazelle]

change from the egg to some sort of lure could work

[lucid marsh]

I would be surprised if not

[earnest raptor]

change it to table

[vocal wedge]

That spawn method if anything makes even less sense and needlessly complicated for a mandatory boss.
While the egg is a stand-in for the lore reason the fight occurs, it is stated to be a symbol of Yharon rather than his actual egg anyway.

[gilded citrus]

Yharons nest is in the dragons aerie

[mystic sandal]

This is SIS/SRS I think

But I do agree the egg could use a rename/sprite

[gritty acorn]

at first this suggestion was just a rename

i thought of Yharon's Egg Shell

but then i thought (and got reminded of ty @keen zodiac) of a new spawn mechanic

its kinda lame to spawn it the same way youd spawn king slime considering its one of the final bosses

but yea i doubt it will get accepted as its too specific. Im willing to post a suggestion with just the name change

[vocal wedge]

Egg Shell still makes less sense.

[calm knot]

i do agree in concept

i think adding more ways to summon bosses beyond craftable item would be awesome

but i don't know how itd be done

i mean infernum has a whole temple for prov

which they're already planning on adding multiple

[vocal wedge]

Yeah, Ravager is meant to get a temple.

[calm knot]

and polter is also meant to get his own room, right?

and theres the clam den

[deft yew]

I’m personally not gonna bother suggesting anything like this at least until whatever boss in question is going to be reworked

[calm knot]

true!

[kind dune]

in infernum signus travels the underworld even before providence during the entire playthrough. its possible to make a roaming entity that works, dont know how with an entity that tries to kill you but its a possibility.

[drowsy plank]

i think the implication is just going behind background walls would probably be enough to stop him

so you could just hide in your base anyway until he passes

[coral carbon]

like that one shark from the legendary starfy

https://tenor.com/view/starfy-the-legendary-starfy-stafy-shark-nintendo-ds-gif-23387928

[drowsy plank]

yeah smthn like that but a bit less abrupt obvs

i imagine there might be a meter that builds up over the player's head before the fight starts

if he sees you for too long then he engages

yknow smthn like that

[coral carbon]

the shark does prowl in the background theres just no gif showing that

[drowsy plank]

plus it'd go away after u beat him too so it aint so bad

lmao fair

plus someone else brought up altars but like

mechs and pirates spawning after breaking an altar is like one of the least intuitive things in the game

i feel like 99% of players just assume they're triggered by hardmode starting until they read the wiki and find out otherwise

[coral carbon]

i knew mech spawns were altar but i learned the pirates were altar literally right now 😭

[vocal wedge]

Calamitas natural spawn but she's just crouching behind one of these waiting for you to get close.

[obsidian nova]

It's going to get reworked into a new material

[oblique gulch]

Oh fire

[dense locust]

perrenial bark 2028

[drowsy plank]

any decade now

[calm knot]

i am physically incapable of making jokes about waiting

[mossy pelican]

New gen

[calm knot]

who?

[mossy pelican]

You

[calm knot]

i have been watching calamity since i was 11

[mossy pelican]

Hmm

I’ll allow it

[calm knot]

to be fair thats only 5 years

but still

thats half the mods life

[drowsy plank]

this user is 16

[calm knot]

What Of It

[drowsy plank]

funny

[calm knot]

i make no effort to hide it

[mossy pelican]

Youngin

[calm knot]

ive got a year and 4 months

that's basically nothing

[vocal wedge]

Infant.

[calm knot]

you shall lie within the dust while i am yet youthful

[vocal wedge]

I will put things on a high shelf so you can't reach them.

[calm knot]

i am 5'11.25

[vocal wedge]

Short.

[calm knot]

at least i ain't 90% of my family

theyre like 5'3 if theyre lucky

[frail fox]

Hell nah

[calm knot]

maybe just the gorecodile and fish of flight

[errant wren]

i disagree with the sugg purely because i like the gorecodile

[frail fox]

Actually though, needs better reasoning than this I think cause they’re different things

Minus flight which is like sure

[keen zodiac]

"remove these things because why not"
worst reason of all time?

[frail fox]

Half of my weapon removal suggestions

[calm knot]

the blood orbs are basically just essences of blood moon

i'll admit that the gemfish and stuffed fish have no reason to go

[indigo yacht]

🔥 ✍️

[calm knot]

there, i have removed them

[frail fox]

Essences of blood moon 🔥

[spare pendant]

Let me have my gorecodiles they’re already a pain enough to fish I might as well get a bonus with all the other blood moon enemies I gotta deal with.

[calm knot]

killing one dreadnautilus is the same as 18 gorecodiles

[frail fox]

Well the essences and souls are in crates so that’s why the fish were removed, but blood orbs are not and are blood moon exclusive, so they’re completely different

[calm knot]

ahhhhhhh i see

alright

wish i had known the reasons for

Anything

[errant wren]

also i feel like if any of them had to die i would've chosen gemfish

personally

[calm knot]

why

[errant wren]

it looked at me funny

[indigo yacht]

true

[tepid crown]

the reason why fish of flight wasnt removed was because it was the only soul of the three that didnt have a vanilla fishing source

[deft yew]

The worst reason of all time is for “Keep the Elementals as big naked women” because there is no good reason possible

But that’s a good close second

[tepid crown]

soul of light and night had their respective hardmode crates

[rancid lotus]

That may genuinely be the worst reason I've seen in this server.

[calm knot]

sometimes i feel like an uninformed congressman

i will not elaborate

[errant wren]

reminds me of something back in 2022 with someone wanting them to be resprited for awful reasons

[keen zodiac]

yeah i was purposefully ignoring that

[deft yew]

Typa guy to label a scientific study as waste because he read 5 random words of a 20-page article

[errant wren]

"my eyes glued to them like magnets" was a crazy statement

[calm knot]

i am sorry

[deft yew]

I am too; that wasn’t directed at you

Just saying I know what you meant

[mossy pelican]

I like the elemental ladies because im a lesbian

But they could be MUCH less sexualized while still being attractive

Got to think dialectically

[drowsy plank]

this is true

[indigo yacht]

are we still talking about this 😭

[spare pendant]

I’m so confused like okay maybe I could see an argument for brimstone elemental being somewhat sexualized but like genuinely how with the others ;-;

How is the first thought with the 5 about gooning?

[mossy pelican]

Its mainly the brimstone if im remembering right

[glass arch]

"are we still talking about this" you say as the current discussion has been going on for under 10 minutes

[spare pendant]

Well technically this was discussed like a few days ago so I don’t blame them for making the statement.

Still though what kind of knowledge are they feeding y’all to make you think there’s something sexual there?

[vocal wedge]

Because we know who Fabsol is.

[indigo yacht]

it is a continuation of a long discussion from earlier

[drowsy plank]

brim is the only bad one and she's also only bad because her design is the oldest
it is both sexualized and doesn't even look that good atp especially compared to her sisters who have literally all been resprited

the rest are normal

[spare pendant]

Let me ask you this do you see any h cup sized breasts on any elemental?

[drowsy plank]

frankly some of them are even more sfw than the vanilla sand elemental

[mossy pelican]

Dude, the brimstone elemental is NAKED

[spare pendant]

Thank you.

[glass arch]

that... is not a requirement for a design to be sexualized

i get where you're coming from but it just isnt

[mossy pelican]

My comment was only directed towards brimstone ffs

[spare pendant]

Brought up Fabsol of course we gotta set the bar high.

[drowsy plank]

it really is just brimmy who stands out far and above as the worst

like i said i think she still has her sprite from when cloud elemental looked like That

those who know know

[keen zodiac]

her proportions would be fine if her design didn't FUCKING SUCK

💥

[mossy pelican]

You’re being unnecessarily hostile

[spare pendant]

Oh, sorry.

[mossy pelican]

Like seriously its radiating off of you

[spare pendant]

Mm…

[rancid lotus]

Look at this bro.

[mossy pelican]

Bro you gotta spoiler this

[drowsy plank]

why are we even bringing granite elemental up

[glass arch]

yeah it was right around that period in time

[drowsy plank]

it's not a proper calamity elemental, and we all know what sand elemental looks like

[spare pendant]

I just don’t understand like this conversation has gone on for got knows how long.

[mossy pelican]

Its because people keep bringing it back up

[drowsy plank]

it hasn't, you just brought it back up yeah

[deft yew]

https://tenor.com/view/jjk-higuruma-higuruma-anime-higuruma-oh-my-god-higuruma-son-gif-17189742323797679519

[glass arch]

i.e. under 3 weeks younger than lorde

[drowsy plank]

insane

[novel belfry]

okay

in terms of elementals

[mossy pelican]

Dont, please

[novel belfry]

vanilla literally only has 1 out of its 4 (we dont talk about the console enemy variants) elementals being explicitly a woman

[drowsy plank]

elemental isn't like
a real category in vanilla

[novel belfry]

i mean true

[drowsy plank]

elemental means something in lore in calamity

[dense ferry]

The problem with the Brimstone Elemental is that she's comically sexualized, it's not that deep!

The other elementals are fine, it's honestly just her

[novel belfry]

but all of your elementals being goofy sexualized girls is INCONSISTENT WITH VANILLA

hell we've said it multiple times, but sand isnt even oversexualized

[calm knot]

shhhhhhhhhh

[hazy nacelle]

if I may go back on topic; add souls of flight to azure crates and remove the fish of flight, boom done

[errant wren]

seems like a fairish trade

[drowsy plank]

literally true

[spare pendant]

I’d be fine with that if it somehow means it doesn’t break hardmode ores in crates again.

[drowsy plank]

why has red not does this

[novel belfry]

shouldnt the fish of flight be a angler catch then

[drowsy plank]

sure

[indigo yacht]

your first mistake was using "why" and "red" in the same sentence

[drowsy plank]

this is true!

[novel belfry]

or

i have a crackpot idea

[spare pendant]

Wasn’t that what was already done with the essence fish anyway?

[hazy nacelle]

souls of flight don't have enough use in vanilla to warrant being crated

[novel belfry]

make the fish of flight an enemy you fight to get souls of lfight more easily

[drowsy plank]

i think you could make a 1.5 update with the number of times ive asked that question in terms of QoL and the likes

[hazy nacelle]

the only reason we have fish of flight is for soaring potion

[errant wren]

wait this might be funny

[coral carbon]

again reiterating my point from before, the elementals being attractive women is fine and i dont really agree that they should be outright changed fully design wise
the THING IS™ you have to make actual character designs that are attractive instead of just "ouuuh extraordinary boobs" as it was in fabsolian era
i started writing this when this was still the topic i hml

[drowsy plank]

pfft

[indigo yacht]

yeah and it can be long and white

and be like a worm

and fly at you

[mossy pelican]

Have a blue mohawk down its back too

[dense ferry]

Just compare these three and you'll understand why Brimmy is weird

[errant wren]

and also do a lot of damage

[drowsy plank]

you could just make souls of flight work like every other type of soul

[indigo yacht]

is it because she's red

[keen zodiac]

2 entire colors

[drowsy plank]

correct

[indigo yacht]

wow i thought we were better than this

[novel belfry]

maybe we should call it a flying oarfish

[mossy pelican]

That would fuck with every experienced player’s mind

[keen zodiac]

wowww

[indigo yacht]

color discrimination...

[coral carbon]

yeah !!!! cloud and anahita are like. Designs !!!! brimmy is "ouuh boawbs" this is what ive been saying !!

[mossy pelican]

She’s red because she’s going to attack you

[errant wren]

wow way to overgeneralize

[spare pendant]

I mean I guess but I don’t really see how brimmy having no clothes is sexual.

[drowsy plank]

i mean wyverns could still drop clusters but much like pillar enemies dropping fragments, i dont think anyone would care if harpies got a 50% chance to drop 1-3 souls in hardmode or something

[dense ferry]

That's not the issue

She has absurdly defined curves on top of that. Like, look at her thighs and waist

[hazy nacelle]

visible crotch

[mossy pelican]

Its part of the issue, she has overexaggerated curves AND no clothes

[drowsy plank]

and her sprite looks bad

[dense ferry]

I'm not kidding when I say she has child-bearing hips!

[mossy pelican]

The latter would be fine without the former albeit

[dense ferry]

And that's bad!

[spare pendant]

That just looks like somewhat normal proportions…

[indigo yacht]

make brimstone elemental into a hexagon

[indigo yacht]

have you seen a woman before irl

[glass arch]

no

[indigo yacht]

no offense

[glass arch]

it doesnt

[errant wren]

and that's also mostly the only thing she has going on in terms of "design"

[spare pendant]

Yeah?

[dense ferry]

I mean, the proportions aren't unrealistic, that's not the issue

Come on, have you guys seen a woman before?

[spare pendant]

I’m saying it’s not impossible.

[errant wren]

i am a woman

[spare pendant]

^

[mossy pelican]

I am a woman

[indigo yacht]

emphasis on the word "normal"

[calm knot]

thats very different from notmal

[dense ferry]

Yeah so am I

[indigo yacht]

as in common

[dense ferry]

Anyways

[deft yew]

Anahita still raises my brow a little bit

[keen zodiac]

why

[calm knot]

shes meant to be a siren-type thing so i think it's acceptable there

[deft yew]

Why is she so incredibly shiny and wiggly

[mossy pelican]

The other two raise my brow but thats because im a lesbian

[drowsy plank]

fish

[keen zodiac]

fish

[deft yew]

I mean duh she’s a siren and a fish but still

[gilded citrus]

Fish

[deft yew]

Idk

[errant wren]

fish

[mossy pelican]

Fih

[indigo yacht]

fish

[gilded citrus]

Fish

[spare pendant]

Fish.

[coral carbon]

Have you guys never seen a fish before

[indigo yacht]

no

[keen zodiac]

lynel hasn't apparently

[errant wren]

i am a fish

[indigo yacht]

high school

[tepid crown]

imo anahita looks worse when animated

[mossy pelican]

Ive held fish

[errant wren]

you say that like almost every month

[indigo yacht]

it's my first thought when i see your name

[drowsy plank]

i will say i actually agree but the actual issue with anahita's is the animation which you cannot see here. vanilla sand doesn't have that and without it the two would basically be the same

[keen zodiac]

anahita animation

[mossy pelican]

Oh its the jiggle physics

[errant wren]

i guess i can't argue against that

[keen zodiac]

why isn't it animated

[glass arch]

it is

[keen zodiac]

there we go

[mossy pelican]

Thats why I thought there were more bad ones than brimmy

[vocal wedge]

That just looks off.

[dense ferry]

Brimmy is just textbook designed to be a "chubby mommy" and she has nothing else going for her design!

I hate that these words are coming out of me

[indigo yacht]

she reminds me of the heart in the super gore nest

[keen zodiac]

TWO

FUCKING

COLORS

RAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHH

[coral carbon]

There isnt a design with brimmy if i may say as such

[tepid crown]

actually its three

her eye is orange

[errant wren]

what's brimmy's lore again

i forgot

[indigo yacht]

fire

[vocal wedge]

Embodiment of Heat.

[keen zodiac]

come to #lore-discussion

[dense ferry]

There is. That doesn't mean it's good, but there is

[spare pendant]

Eh I guess.

[vocal wedge]

Destroyed Azafure, where Calamitas was from in the incident that gave her her powers.

[keen zodiac]

or don't ig

[errant wren]

right right...

[tepid crown]

revered idol of azafure, the embodiment of fire and hot stuff in terraria and killed a lot of people when she woke for the first time in a long time

[glass arch]

the living concept of fire decided she was gonna be an asshole when in azafure for some unknown reason and then its implied a child somehow took her power

[deft yew]

Ever heard of a plant, buddy

[tepid crown]

and is most likely the origin of scals powers

[deft yew]

(I still agree

[gilded citrus]

All elementals are immortal manifestations of things
Brimmy is fire/heat

[mossy pelican]

Brimmy isnt immortal because I kill her every run

[vocal wedge]

You don't kill her.

[keen zodiac]

she survives

[spare pendant]

Real.

[calm knot]

not with that attitude

[gilded citrus]

You make her knocked out for a bit but all elementals come back eventually

[vocal wedge]

It's near impossible.

[gilded citrus]

You cant explode the planet

[calm knot]

Not With That Attitude

[keen zodiac]

to kill her, you would need to eradicate all sources of heat

including the sun

[errant wren]

easy enough

[calm knot]

Not With That Attitude

[spare pendant]

I’m sure Draedon would have something for that.

[gilded citrus]

Reorganises your organs into alphabetical order

[keen zodiac]

he very much does not

[calm knot]

they were already like that

[keen zodiac]

bro doesn't even know xeroc exists

[calm knot]

sorry

[gilded citrus]

Reverse alphabetical order

[rancid lotus]

We should tell Draedon about Xeroc trust.

[calm knot]

i actually owe the bank my 3rd liver is that gonna cause a problem

[mossy pelican]

We should tell draedon about us

The player

[rancid lotus]

Y'know how you can put items in the codebreak like a bloody vein or power cell?

[gilded citrus]

No i can just reorganise the bank

[deft yew]

Third? What are you, a… well idk if anything has multiple livers

[vocal wedge]

But why, why would you do that?

[calm knot]

me

[vocal wedge]

I do.

[spare pendant]

I’ve never tried that.

[calm knot]

i have multiple livers

[calm knot]

and him

[mossy pelican]

Person with a very niche devil fruit:

[rancid lotus]

What if we put Prelude and Requiem?

[errant wren]

i feel that we are getting slightly off topic

[calm knot]

Good

[spare pendant]

Maybe for the best tbh.

[gilded citrus]

the grass is growing teeth

[mossy pelican]

We’re discussing possible suggestions

[spare pendant]

Well, we were lol

[errant wren]

ah i see carry on

[vocal wedge]

Here's a suggestion, add Yharim.

[spare pendant]

Yharim tomorrow.

[errant wren]

future content sugg methinks

[errant wren]

what the hell

[spare pendant]

Ok lmfao

[mossy pelican]

Yharim should be added as a 1/1million chance to occur in GFB and just instakill the player from off screen, the chat saying: “He punched a table”

[keen zodiac]

flare bolt

[spare pendant]

Do you think the Subsuming Vortex would explode if you attempted to open it for the knowledge?

[deft yew]

1/2 chance if Yharon reaches 1% health and has not been defeated

[errant wren]

nah it's probably just a picture book

[frail fox]

I like the idea that we don’t read any of the books and just hold a closed book that shoots projectiles

Except Heresy and Rancor

[errant wren]

the books are probably just blank if i'm being honest

[spare pendant]

Yeah likely.

Maybe except for the Water Bolt.

[rancid lotus]

What if the pages are just descriptions of the magic used in each book used in making it and every ingredient?

[rancid lotus]

There's like 20 pages dedicated to Miracle Matter.

[errant wren]

if it's crafted it at most only has one page of content

the rest is just blank for other stuff

[rancid lotus]

Do you think Draedon's Forge has autocorrect?

[mossy pelican]

Not canon

[deft yew]

Okay?

[vocal wedge]

That's not from Calamity, boil 'em, boys.

[rancid lotus]

Wait what if Magic Book Reforges just change the font?

[errant wren]

mythical is comic sans

[rancid lotus]

Mythical is Wingdings.

[deft yew]

Can’t take a joke because it’s not from Calamity 🥀

[gilded citrus]

Its just goblin tinkerer moving the bookmark to the page with a different font at random

[rancid lotus]

Comic Sans would be Ignorant.

[errant wren]

the bad reforges are simply goblin ripping the bookmark

[vocal wedge]

Get your 'noncanon' FILTH out of here, peasant. We should have your hands cut off for this!

[deft yew]

Annoying is Wingdings

Mythical is Standard Galactic Alphabet

[frail fox]

This is canon until books get resprited to be otherwise

[deft yew]

NONONONONONO

[errant wren]

wh

[deft yew]

EDIT THAT

[vocal wedge]

Until what?

[mossy pelican]

Lmaooooo

[errant wren]

crazy condition i guess

[frail fox]

Idk what you’re talking about

[mossy pelican]

📸

[errant wren]

i too have receipts

[rancid lotus]

I was extremely confused prior to you editing that.

[frail fox]

Relevant to the elementals discussion again

[deft yew]

Death

[errant wren]

respriting brimmy fixes books, obviously

[mossy pelican]

They should add a one piece reference

It’d be peak

[vocal wedge]

?

[frail fox]

Seething Discharge and Burning Sea resprites potentially come with it so maybe

[vocal wedge]

I just sent that because it's funny I don't know who One Piece is.

[mossy pelican]

Ragebait of such low caliber has no effect on me

[frail fox]

Jane One Piece

[coral carbon]

Juan piece

[hollow shell]

@calm knot Would be good if you had a lil more than "why not?" in your Flight sugg's reasoning.

The Light and Night fishes got removed cuz you can already get those Souls as a fishing reward directly, so the fishes were redundant.

afaik Flight has no other fishing source

[calm knot]

i mostly meant for consistency

[dense ferry]

That's Laura

[mossy pelican]

No thats me

Im caught up

[dense ferry]

You don't know her

[frail fox]

That’s right

[mossy pelican]

Oh, okau

[hollow shell]

Doesn't really apply because the nature of the removal is different.

Removing the Flight fishes actually will have an impact on the resources you can obtain from fishing. They are not redundant.

[mossy pelican]

[sleek turret]

remove fish of flight and add souls of flight to azure crates

easy

[mossy pelican]

Im sick and took nyquil about half an hour ago so im kinda loopy

Now that just seems silly

[fossil finch]

was about to say

[hollow shell]

We could do that.
The suggestion would be different but it could be that

[worthy lintel]

remove fishing and farm like a man

[mossy pelican]

I thought meld was getting killed eventually

I should be sleeping fuckkkkk

[drowsy plank]

i mean meld constructs maybe but not meld in its entirety

[mossy pelican]

Yeah I meant constructs

Also I thought lunar had pickaxes and hamaxes, not drills

Am I goldfish braining rn

[fossil finch]

they have drills, pickaxes, hamaxes, axes

[buoyant tangle]

no the drills were made obtainable in 1.4 i think, though i do feel they are redundant

[mossy pelican]

I lowkey never use drills anyways, popping a mining potion with like an ancient chisel is easily good enough

[buoyant tangle]

i don't know why meld doesn't have a hamaxe though, it's had a pickaxe since it was Xeroc armor

[drowsy plank]

they don't have axes those are unobtainable and i think their sprite long been removed

it's just drill pick hamaxe

[buoyant tangle]

actually they're not removed, still in the files as far as i can tell

[drowsy plank]

weird

[sleek turret]

They're unobtainable items

[polar bison]

I remember seeing a conversation between someone and some devs about meld hamaxe and the consensus was if quality sprites were provided they’d green it

[drowsy plank]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/465195069406707722/1392668647440519238/spriter_hell.gif

[umbral gazelle]

i just realized green it mean give it a pass i thought they gonna paint green color over the sprite

[mossy pelican]

Nope

Its green now

Because he is green

[rancid lotus]

The art server really should have a channel for items that would be added but don't have sprites.

[drowsy plank]

that's just assets-submissions

[keen zodiac]

(joke)

[rancid lotus]

I mean for saying what assets they could use, not where the assets would be submitted.

[drowsy plank]

assets-needed...?

it's just that the devs never use it

[keen zodiac]

that's called assets-needed but there's only one post a year

[rancid lotus]

🧠

[drowsy plank]

one post a year? don't be so generous, it's once every three years and they never use anything from it

[keen zodiac]

[rancid lotus]

Closer to once every 2.5 years.

[drowsy plank]

i do think ur gif is unfair because quite a few of the recent resprites have been from assets-needed

it's just that whenever it's something actually important it's never accepted

[sleek turret]

its probably from a different time in calart

[drowsy plank]

waiter, 500 more frostcrush valari resprites please!

[keen zodiac]

the elderberry incident

[sleek turret]

assets-needed had the godslayer wings thing there but the message is gone I think

[glass arch]

you dont have to remind cog about that one

[drowsy plank]

[sleek turret]

archaic assets needed

[rancid lotus]

I'm actually going to shrink the barbarian thinking image.

[sleek turret]

its not even elderberry incident its just was a bandwagon tbh

[glass arch]

tends to happen in calart

[sleek turret]

its like when they were doing nachos a long time ago

[rancid lotus]

Wat?

So SDK's one got added.

[keen zodiac]

elderberries need a resprite

[mossy pelican]

FG’s sprite is the best

[keen zodiac]

five hundred submissions

[mossy pelican]

500…

[rancid lotus]

I think this guy was onto something.

[mossy pelican]

Five hundred Cigarettes

[keen zodiac]

:true

[glass arch]

nachos were actually at a similar time i think

[sleek turret]

FG's funny because it was made by someone who had 0 idea of what elderberry calamity was I think

[keen zodiac]

also not nearly as bad

[mossy pelican]

Whats elderberry calamity (I have memory issues)

[rancid lotus]

This guy was on something.

[keen zodiac]

permanent health upgrade

the 3rd one

[sleek turret]

koolaid ❤️

[mossy pelican]

Oh the blueberries

[rancid lotus]

Okay that Taco Hat one would be a peak vanity.

[mossy pelican]

They look blue

[mossy pelican]

I thought the same thing

[novel belfry]

FG's elderberry needs to be turned into a sticker ngl

[polar bison]

Honestly Assets Needed could be used far more often

Notably a lot of Gores are missing

For a lot of enemies

I'll make a list

[frail fox]

Assets needed being dead because calart is just too scary

[worthy lintel]

too feral

[keen zodiac]

other assets needed:
auric slammer
deep diver equip sprite
meld hamaxe

[rancid lotus]

Meld Drill, too.

[keen zodiac]

why the last 2

that'd be like adding an upgrade for the boring bow

[oblique birch]

bro wants sprites for unobtainable items

[rancid lotus]

Wait Lunar Chainsaws existed?

[polar bison]

Enemies Without Gores TM:

• Radiators
• Nuclear Terror
• Cloud Elemental
• Fearless Goldfish Warrior
• Great Sand Shark
• Reaper Shark
• Eidolon Wyrm
• Draconic Swarmer
• Bloom Slime (Slimes don't traditionally have gores but this guy is a rock dude)
• Plaguebringer
• Pestilent, Cryo, Perennial Slime, and Infernal Congealment (Same as Bloom)
• Overloaded Soldier
• Mirage Jelly
• Mantis
• Astraglomerate
• Earth Elemental
• Cryon
• Chaotic Puffer
• Aurora Spirit
• Astral Probe
• Aries
• Aero slime (It has wings)
• Box Jellyfish
• Burrower
• Cannonball Jelly + Baby
• Cnidrion
• Ghost Bell
• Heat Spirit
• Hive Tumor + Perforator Cyst
• Rimehound
• Sunskater
• Toxic Minnow

Chromatic Eruption has an outdated back tank sprite

[polar bison]

Hella accs need equipped sprites actually

[golden sonnet]

they never were obtainable, but still exist as unobtainable items

[keen zodiac]

if overloaded soldier gets gores before it's removed i'm boaring myself

[rancid lotus]

They're removing Overloaded Soldier?

[keen zodiac]

i fucking hope

[glass arch]

its really lame

[keen zodiac]

if overloaded soldier has 0 haters then i'm no longer alive

[glass arch]

why does it spawn in hardmode why does it get buffed post moon lord WHY IS ITS AI A MIX BETWEEN WHAT SEEMS TO BE UNICORN AND FIGHTER AI

[half imp]

Overloaded soldier is peak

y'all lack vision

[polar bison]

Accessories that need Equipped Sprites (At least that I feel do):

• Amidias' Pendant
• Arc Flash Ring
• Badge of Bravery
• Batholith Bangle
• Black Glass Band
• Bloody Worm Scarf (Outdated)
• Calamity
• Corrosive Spine
• Dark Matter Sheath
• Dark Sun Ring
• Deadshot Brooch
• Diamond of the Deep
• Ethereal Talisman
• Gladiator's Locket
• IV Drip on the Rocks
• Necklace of Vexation
• Plagued Fuel Pack + Blunder Boosters
• Planebreaker's Pouch
• Protolith Bangle
• Raider's Talisman
• Reaper Tooth Necklace
• Ruin Medallion
• Sand Cloak
• Sand Shark Tooth Necklace
• Silencing Sheath
• Slagsplitter Pauldron
• Spectral Veil
• Tesla's Amulet
• Toxic Heart
• Vampiric Talisman
• Venerated Locket
• Voltaic Jelly
• Alchemical Decanter
• Anechoic Plating
• Cleansing Jelly
• Craw Carapace and Baroclaw (Maybe?????)
• Deific Amulet
• Draedon's Heart
• Frost Barrier
• Giant Tortoise Shell
• Hide of Astrum Deus
• Interstellar Stompers
• Laudanum
• Permafrost's Concoction
• Regenerator
• Sea Spirit Amulet (Outdated)
• Shield of the Ocean
• Trinket of Chi
• Unholy + Vicious Tonic
• Supreme Bait Tackle Box Fishing Station
• Ocean Crest
• Spelunker's Amulet
• Aquatic Emblem
• Ascendant Insignia
• Deep Diver (Made you wait for this one)
• Grand Gelatin
• Harpy Ring
• Statis' Ninja Belt + Void Sash
• Vital Jelly
• Ambrosial Ampuole
• Blood Pact

[frail fox]

Probably better than the average cal ai

[polar bison]

Hit enter whoops that aint done

[keen zodiac]

what would iv drip even be

[half imp]

what on earth would Calamity equip sprite be what

it's just some hand

[polar bison]

Your hand

[half imp]

but is calamity even your hand or is it just

A hand

[glass arch]

your hand is 4 pixels

[keen zodiac]

corrosive spine??

[half imp]

your spine

[keen zodiac]

you never turn around

[rancid lotus]

Overloaded Soldier has potential but currently it's Zombieslop.

[half imp]

Also what would DSR and AFR be there's literally no room for an actual ring

Unless they're an armband

[frail fox]

1 pixel sprite for afr

[keen zodiac]

its potential is to be burned in the fires of hell

[glass arch]

sorry its slightly more its actually 9

[half imp]

you missed the most important one of these all

Deep Diver

[keen zodiac]

i said that already

[half imp]

Deep Diver having an equip sprite has actual functional issues

[rancid lotus]

Arc Flash Ring would be like 3 pixels, I feel like someone could probably sprite that rn.

[half imp]

Namely when it gets one it'll finally work with Brand of the Inferno

[polar bison]

I'm not doooone I hit enter by mistaaaake

[half imp]

oh ok

carry on

[glass arch]

i see the vision for arc flash ring

do you see the vision

[keen zodiac]

that's a bracelet

[rancid lotus]

Make it glow colored lightning.

[glass arch]

nnnnnnope

[keen zodiac]

actually

[glass arch]

that is diamond ring

[keen zodiac]

lightning bolts coming from your hand might be fire

just no visible ring

because it's a ring

[rancid lotus]

It makes your fingers Red and Blue Lightning with the cosmilite silver at the base of your hand?

[keen zodiac]

cosmilite??

[glass arch]

anyways yeah what i posted was in fact a ring

it wasnt located at the wrist

[keen zodiac]

it's a dumb stupid ring

[half imp]

pinky ring

[keen zodiac]

clearly the solution is to turn afr into brass knuckles

[polar bison]

Now it's done

[rancid lotus]

Who done?

[half imp]

I feel like a lot of these make no sense

[polar bison]

What ones are you contentious about?

[half imp]

Specifically:

• Eth Talisman
• Toxic Heart
• Alchemical Decanter
• Voltaic Jelly
• Grand Gelatin line
• Baroclaw line
• Laudanum
• Concoction
• Unholy/Vicious Tonic
• Ascendant Insignia
• Ampoule line
• Blood Pact

none of these really have a player presence that makes sense

Maybe the jellies could be like cloud and a bottle I guess..?

[tame vigil]

they hated doze because they told the truth

[boreal lichen]

a rather violent response

[half imp]

Anechoic Plating too

Then there's concerns for Calamity, Tesla's Amulet, etc that already have visual functions tied to the visual toggle

[polar bison]

My thoughts were:

• Talisman. Wear it around your neck.
• This one should have also been question marks tbh, I just think it would be cool to see on your chest.
• Cloud in a Bottle style
• Ditto ^
• Again, Ditto ^
• Question Marks for a reason, idk something could be done maybe. This also applies to Anechoic Plating
• Cloud in a Bottle
• I could do this all day, Cloud in a Bottle
• Badge-like maybe, should have also been Question Marked
• Cloud in a Bottle
• Skull Helm

Tesla's Amulet should have one on merit of it being something you wear but I get this concern

I think their visibility being ammended with a right click on the item would benice

[keen zodiac]

speaking of accessory visibility, calamity

what the hell

[polar bison]

I think all items that have flames on their sprite should be animated

Worse than Hitler ^

Joke I don't

I don't believe that

I will say the Polterghast weapons are a little egregious witht hat tho

PLEASE

TERROR BLADE

EXPLOSION

DUST HELL

I'm going on a tangent

A thousamd actually

[tame vigil]

oh. i can help with that, one sec

[polar bison]

Yknow what if Calamity won't take me as an artist take me as a fuckin

Middle manager

John paperwork

Organize your fuckass github

Bookkeeping

Themes and Such

[tame vigil]

sorry we already have someone for that

[polar bison]

Who

I can fix that

No but fr tell them to organize the Gores folder on github

[keen zodiac]

when in doubt blame yuh

[polar bison]

true...

[boreal lichen]

merkalto is no longer there we need a new scapegoat...

[polar bison]

RIGHT Merkalto left

We hunger for a scapegoat

[keen zodiac]

i nominate yuh or fluffy

[novel belfry]

we need not use any devs

[polar bison]

Hmmmmm I personally toment fluffy enough I think

[novel belfry]

for we have kiriwhite

[polar bison]

https://klipy.com/gifs/morgan-freeman-true-2

[keen zodiac]

see? fluffy is evil

just like merkalto

[north oracle]

don't twist my yharon sticker

[tame vigil]

is this better

[north oracle]

yes

when in doubt, spawn more dust

[crude geode]

is there a burning sky but for dust

[oblique birch]

500 dust particles

[glass arch]

yeah

[crude geode]

answered my own question

chicken cannon

yharon weapons are so funny

[glass arch]

https://calamitymod.wiki.gg/wiki/Vivid_Clarity theres a better answer than chicken cannon actually

whuh

since when did i have embed perms

[polar bison]

I want you hanging from the streets

If you want dust hell Dragon Pow is right there

[rancid lotus]

People with dust allergies when they play Calamity:

[earnest raptor]

what if crispy gets hired as queen of donators (which would be the same as middle manager, but cooler and more epic)

[hollow idol]

meld parity tools happen if we get good sprites
thats about it rly
if this passes it, nothing will happen, it’s already effectively accepted, not like it’ll make us prioritize em more

[gritty acorn]

this is ridiculous

should i post a suggestion againsnt this

oh wait clentaminator exists

[keen zodiac]

it's still dumb

[gritty acorn]

ye

[half imp]

Isn't that in line with vanilla

Hallow and evil

[indigo yacht]

evil biomes need 300 and hallow 125 according to the wiki

from experience i know it's at least less than 950 because i can build them by hand without much trouble

[earnest raptor]

1000 is for snow and sand biomes

[craggy girder]

i would like this, however this issue is solved by downloading other mods

i dont think calamity wants to be an omnimod, especially when other mods accomplish the exact same result

[indigo yacht]

calamity puts a non negligible amount of emphasis on fishing

the solution to a problem primarily prompted by calamkty shouldn't be to download a new mod

it should be presented by calamity itself

[craggy girder]

off the top of my head, the only times you'd really wanna fish are

you dont have qol and want potions
you want the Cosmolight
you specifically want fin wings or some other item from angler

[humble scarab]

i dont really understand you

[craggy girder]

i mean thats how its supposed to work, no

[humble scarab]

calamity expecially now, changed the rods to be more interactive

[craggy girder]

do you install calamity to get better fishing or do you install it to play a content mod

[humble scarab]

and the angler stuff can be easly changed by a small qol mod if you dont like it

[craggy girder]

• calamity already seems to be shifting from QoL cooked into it

[indigo yacht]

only in the sense of removing unnecessary qol

[humble scarab]

the cooldown on quests exist, so you wont speedrun it

[craggy girder]

would more angler quests be considered Neccesary?

you only need to spend, what, 30 days?

[indigo yacht]

and speedrunning quests is a bad thing why

[craggy girder]

just do whatever you need to do, but have a watch on hand

when it hits 4:30 am, go to the angler and do your fishing quest

[humble scarab]

why would you play the game if you want to end it quickly?

the quest fishes arent hard to catch

and you can do in the meantime

when you do smth else

[indigo yacht]

i don't really like sitting in a bed for multiple hours to finish quests

[humble scarab]

build stuff

mine stuff

other stuff exists beside just bosses

make farms

arenas

[rancid lotus]

Bottomless bucket should not be ignored.

[indigo yacht]

...

[craggy girder]

you can focus on other stuff while fishing

[humble scarab]

• calamity already removed the quests being rng

[craggy girder]

unless you're Actively stopgapped

[humble scarab]

thats enough

[oblique birch]

the time limit serves 0 purposes

[humble scarab]

maybe in vanilla where the quests are mostly rng

but in cal, it does slow down the pace

its just people using qol mods like ore excavator, makes them have less stuff to do

[indigo yacht]

i literally use no qol besides recipe browser

fuck off

[humble scarab]

why are you agressive?

[indigo yacht]

it's late at night and you're coming off at patronizing

sorry

[humble scarab]

i should have added "most people"

mb on that

but its just time management

like you manage storage and similliar stuff, you also should manage your time

cosmolight removed this entirely

and some devs (idk if all)want the time management part of the game back

even if the suggestion will pass, i personally dont think the quests will be changed in any way

i recommend playing vanilla sometimes

[misty lichen]

after only playing vanilla for hours angler wait time is still pointless

don’t assume the people that don’t agree with you only don’t agree because they lack knowledge or something

[humble scarab]

i dont assume that

its just playing vanilla again after modded gives you different view, cuz of the amount of qol the mods give

i play vanilla again after 1.4.5 dropped, and the only issue i had, was the rng of the angler rewards

[misty lichen]

i did the same thing and 30% of a 20 hour full game playthrough was fishing or sleeping in beds

[humble scarab]

20 hour full game?

you are fast

[misty lichen]

i normally take a while to do things- oh nvm

[humble scarab]

i never really went to sleep

[misty lichen]

this was on a planetoid seed which made exploration really easy so that cut off time

[humble scarab]

makes sense

while waiting for quests, i was mining ores for the future, making good arenas for future bosses, grinding accessories

and storage

the rng of the quests made the quests less enjoyable

[craggy girder]

it also serves no purpose to be like

rremoved

[keen zodiac]

that's just objectively untrue

[earnest raptor]

can someone do playthrough, where the only mod is quest limit removal

and see, how much it warps the experience?

[mystic sandal]

I see no reason that this shouldn’t be added honestly

The actual balance of angler quests doesn’t really change? You still take a long time to get gold rod because of all the different biomes you gotta go to

You’re still most likely gonna get a wide variety of quest fish to collect

In my experience the time limit just makes you sleep for a while

And because it’s tied to the day/night cycle, you don’t really get anything to optimize quest cooldowns outside of bed and cosmolight

(Which is important because, for normal things like rare enemy drops, you can build farms to make them orders of magnitude easier to get)

[golden sonnet]

I kinda disagree with this suggestion as a whole, because there is no item from quests that you need

[mossy pelican]

Until you get cosmilite, enchanted sundial is the best at what it does

And by doing more fishing quests it makes things like fishing for potion fish or crates less evil

[fossil finch]

Go get the mod that does this

Problem solved

Regardless of ur opinion calamity doesn't need to do this

[sleek turret]

trueee

[worthy lintel]

i prefer just making the sundials craftable so you never need to fish

☕

[gritty acorn]

hi hows this #suggestions-posting message

[indigo yacht]

it's by far the best pre ml

i think saying other summons are pretty good is underselling it

[gritty acorn]

yes, thats it

[gritty acorn]

yea, theyre REALLY GOOD

yea sure its the best pre ml thing

its not that good post ml

[indigo yacht]

no like there aren't any pre ml summons that compare

[gritty acorn]

so youre basically gonna nohit a faster, harder eol

for a weapon thats also pre ml

[mossy pelican]

I like vengeful sun

EoL can kiss my ass

[gritty acorn]

and thats gonna get used as much as any other summons

[gritty acorn]

legend

[gritty acorn]

i cant put enough emphasis on that

people seem to mention this counterpoint alot

forgetting about how you get the weapon

like even Astralgeldon in the Catalyst addon isnt as hard to kill, and you get gear that gets you to polterghast

[indigo yacht]

i don't have any opinions on that i am just saying that there is no contest
saying other summon weapons are also good is misleading

[gritty acorn]

presentation wise ig

but im not wrong either

yes terraprisma is much much better

but why bother getting it

[mossy pelican]

I skip the terraprisma every run and I’m just fine

[gritty acorn]

when others do the job

[gritty acorn]

before the change id be confused by that

but now who wouldnt skip it

[mossy pelican]

Its not worth the extra effort for what for most people is a minuscule difference

[gritty acorn]

ok no the difference isnt miniscule, it iss much better than the other summons

but its not viable post ml

thats what bothers me mostly

[mossy pelican]

The average player isn’t going to care that the weapon is 5 seconds faster at killing a boss

[indigo yacht]

i should also say that your suggestion doesn't have any reason why it should be made more available

[gritty acorn]

yes

[gritty acorn]

my reason is logic

[mossy pelican]

Compare that to the difficulty of obtaining it, most players will skip it

Like they do in vanilla

[gritty acorn]

why make a weapon incredibly hard to get

so hard to get it makes it useless

[mossy pelican]

Rework terraprisma to drop from prim wyrm

Ez

[gritty acorn]

real

[indigo yacht]

and why is this bad

[gritty acorn]

not even that

[indigo yacht]

you need to add that in your suggestion

[gritty acorn]

in vanilla its good

[drowsy plank]

revert the reversion

[gritty acorn]

being useless is bad

[drowsy plank]

this one hurt my head

[gritty acorn]

que

[gritty acorn]

yes lol

[drowsy plank]

i just woke up so i thought it was asking it to be reverted back to vanilla but this was asking to revert the thing that got reverted

bweh

[indigo yacht]

please read what I'm saying. you need to add reasoning in your suggestion. i am not arguing one way or the other. you have no reasoning in the text and you need to add it for the suggestion to be valid.

[gritty acorn]

ok sure wait

[indigo yacht]

i think terraprisma looks cool and that's where my opinion on the weapon and its obtainment ends

[drowsy plank]

@novel belfry hey btw im flagging your's because it accomplishes nothing; the devs already said they'll just add them when they get a sprite but the suggestion isn't going to make them any more likely to do it faster so there's no point in letting it into voting

[indigo yacht]

rainbow sword ✨

[drowsy plank]

okay actually yeah you have a point too elsie

[tepid crown]

wtf

[drowsy plank]

this isn't valid because half of it is a balance suggestion and the rest doesn't have a reason

[tepid crown]

cog you arent kris deltarune anymore i didnt realise it was you

[drowsy plank]

lmao

tbf that was always my sona

kris doesn't wear a blue hoodie

[mossy pelican]

Looks like a butt at first glance lowkey

[drowsy plank]

LOL

[indigo yacht]

it was in #1178515062030348308 originally and then it was labeled invalid

[gritty acorn]

ok i added some things

[gritty acorn]

ya

#1483840653308723201

[gritty acorn]

it isnt a butt?

[mossy pelican]

No

[gritty acorn]

i checked their pfp very well and i was certain that it was one

dang

wait what is that kris??

[gritty acorn]

oh

bartsona

[mossy pelican]

Cog aint a he

[gritty acorn]

where do i post

[gritty acorn]

mb didnt check

i want my terraprisma back to night time eol!!

rahhh

[drowsy plank]

Terraprisma is a rather iconic option for summoner that drops from Empress of Light only when defeated during the daytime when she is enraged. This is a vanilla feature, so it was reverted as Calamity tries to mess less with vanilla balancing, however, Terraprisma is now in a rather weird spot as it isn't strong enough to last post-ML like it does in vanilla, and it isn't valueable enough to be worth obtaining over any of the equally viable options added by Calamity. This makes this rather iconic weapon rather useless, because it requires a challenging fight with an enraged boss. All similar drops by Calamity have effectively been removed, but because this one is vanilla it gets to stay.

The change should be swapped back to make it obtainable normally again, or it should be balanced to a higher tier so it can actually be viable again in relevance to the difficulty in obtaining it.```here use this

i dont feel like explaining all the weird little individual issues with ur current suggestion so i just rewrote it

[gritty acorn]

oooh

i should improve my writing by just reading this rewritten version

one sec leme read

oke ye same idea but just better written one sec done

[indigo yacht]

i was going to say your suggestion should probably focus on making terraprisma 'useful' as you put it rather than saying "we should do this but if not then i guess this also works"

[gritty acorn]

yee

i changed le post now

well, edited

doesnt matter

[drowsy plank]

you need to remove the credits

the suggestion was barely under the 1k character limit

this won't go through

[gritty acorn]

oh ok

dang

[grim tusk]

Tbh Prisma could get the Legendary weapon treatment, its obtained in an unique way and its rare

however it is busted as fuck with its vanilla stats

[gritty acorn]

you mean like mythical, unreal way

it is increedibly hard to get atp

like

[grim tusk]

No like stuff like Malachite, Leonid Progenitor, Blossom Flux, Cosmic Discharge, Yharim’s Crystal

[gritty acorn]

i can barely last a few seconds

[dense locust]

As it should be