suggestions-discussion

[oblique birch]

Flight time?

[fiery hamlet]

uh yea it gives you a flight time boost from the angel treads does it not

[dense locust]

closest "actual" cal weapon to being Z is probably like slag magnum or the last mourning

[oblique birch]

No...

Are you mistaken with Ascendant Insignia

[fiery hamlet]

...no

[half imp]

Yes it does

[fiery hamlet]

the angel treads boost flight time by 10%

[fiery hamlet]

it inherits angel treads

[half imp]

Seraph Treads boost flight time by 10% and also +40

[oblique birch]

God fucking damnit

Angel Treads

[novel belfry]

donor weapon moment

[oblique birch]

I keep forgetting it's upgraded from that

[dense locust]

slag magnum is not a donor

[frail fox]

What does being a donor item have to do with anything

[fiery hamlet]

but yeah fr this thing is broken

none of the items i have are even reforged

[frail fox]

Honestly they’re more broken on average

[dense locust]

wait how could I forget haunted scroll

[dense locust]

pre 2.1 gend and sunrise ❤️

[novel belfry]

last mourning

[half imp]

it is important to note that defense hits the main attack hard, it's -50 dmg per hit

[dense locust]

last mourning just needs the lion heart treatment

tripple the base damage

[half imp]

however yeah eclipse beam is just broken

[fiery hamlet]

oh man i even forgot to use a bewitching table

[half imp]

wait till you hear about the forbidden tech

[frail fox]

Yeah but that doesn’t matter at all

[half imp]

hold Saros laser and swap to a whip while not releasing the attack button

Firecracker is pretty funny

I still need to fix that

[novel belfry]

it means that it didnt get a rework unlike the baleful harvester

[fiery hamlet]

eclipse beam should have a continuous mana cost honestly

[dense locust]

dont give doze ideas

who is evil me

[frail fox]

It tried

[oblique birch]

Evil

[dense locust]

tried it did

[frail fox]

Cit gave up

[oblique birch]

Just triple its damage (again)

[novel belfry]

does it even have the 1.4.4 horsemann blade's aura swing as well

welpp doesnt look like it

[frail fox]

Who’s gonna ask the donor

[fiery hamlet]

also is it a calamity thing that lets you use the quick buff button on honey bottles for the honey buff

because it doesn't heal or inflict potion sickness, just gives you the buff

[dense locust]

they were only a donor for a month back in febuary 2019 it might be cooked

[oblique birch]

What if they just want to save money

[frail fox]

This means we can do whatever we want right

[dense locust]

if only

[fiery hamlet]

alright this is what my character became for the scal fight down to the last detail
all invigorating accessories + moonshine + vigorous candle pretty much negates the need for defense because you end up regenerating all the damage you take basically immediately

oop forgot to hold a summon weapon

not to mention all the heart pickups from the bloodflare bonus and that's before i figured out how to become invincible with it

[half imp]

34/s crying

[dense locust]

only like 130ish% damage with regenerator smh

[keen zodiac]

what if bloodflare regenerator that's multiplicative

[oblique birch]

Standing still right

34/s standing still

[lucid marsh]

I wish there was an upgrade to the endless quiver and musket pouch for like post moon lord or something

It could be luminite bullets and arrows maybe?

[earnest raptor]

what would be the upgrade, though

what bullet is so boring, but is strong enough to replace infinite normal bullets?

[lucid marsh]

Luminite, I think

It's like 30 extra damage per hit and higher velocity for guns that don't have custom projectiles

Or alternatively if we want to make it something weaker and go by the precedent that exists:
Since you get infinite of the first prehardmode ammo at the beginning of hardmode, you might get infinite of the weakest hardmode ammo post moon lord

Which would be...

Either high velocity or exploding bullets, and... Hellfire arrows? Nothing really fits that for arrows

Oh wait I didn't check calamity ammo

Including calamity ammo doesn't change anything

[earnest raptor]

I feel like this could be applicable to many situations

[fiery hamlet]

cant tell if crying because overkill or crying because i have a skill issue

[hot bison]

is my suggestion ass

[whole tundra]

@hot bison Specific item suggestion without any reason besides "I feel"

[fleet grotto]

also no need to add such specificity on the recipe

don't need a recipe at all

[hot bison]

i cant feel like anything?

[frail mantle]

Suggestions generally want to be less subjective when it comes to reasoning

Though when it comes to decorations and such it is harder to objectively explain why you think it should be a thing, I’d imagine the rules on reasoning would be more lenient in that aspect

If it does pass the issue would probably end up being sprites, as is often the case

Roll gif

[frail mantle]

That’s the one

[hot bison]

ok but like

do i js demolish that shit now?

[hot bison]

i have a drawing saved, but its really fucked up, and can only be used as refence

fucked up in sense of like

offset in some places

[frail mantle]

i'd wait until someone like cog or rover rolls around they're more familiar with suggestions than i am

[hot bison]

k

@worthy lintel does ! means that im not getting approved

[worthy lintel]

unfortunately so, the ! signals to the bot to not send the sugg at the end of the 24 hours

its specific, but also

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/465195069406707722/1482000634411618334/spriter_hell.gif?ex=69b55c25&is=69b40aa5&hm=51b383b5f326b0e23c96aeb1836a8a156cd617ee3447d8e56032cf0f37652507&

the code is easy lmao

[hot bison]

bro wym spriter hell

[worthy lintel]

the coding part is easy

the problem is making the sprites

[hot bison]

4 shroombles does not mean that every single one has to move

[worthy lintel]

most of calamity's bottlenecks occur due to no sprites

[hot bison]

in my image 2 were sitting on the trees

i could even try to do spritework myself if i find good soft for that

[worthy lintel]

that would be jarring as fuck to have 2 completely still shroombles

all critter cages are animated

[hot bison]

they could've just sit on branches and do the legs thingy idk

why all of em have to be animated?

[hot bison]

like

shake the legs?

idk i forgot how its called

swing?

you get the idea

2 run around while 2 watch

saves space + easier to animate

[worthy lintel]

if you can provide the frames, or convince someone to, then that'd be swell

a basic critter cage is several frames to animate

[hot bison]

i can provide u

single image

that i have as prototype for now

and if it is okay, the i will try my best to make rest of em

[worthy lintel]

its always ok to suggest and try as long as you conserve the mindset that implementation is never guaranteed

[hot bison]

im banned

from sending images

is it okay if i dm u the picute?

[worthy lintel]

sure send it and ill forward it here and let others judge

[tiny minnow]

They look like they’d make a potion of growth. Increases attack and mining power at the cost of a bigger hitbox.

(Not a serious suggestion by any means)

[hot bison]

okayyyy

it got 3 exclamation marks, i dont think that it will be accepted even if i do spritework

[worthy lintel]

its the formatting that's off

you didnt address the issue of presenting it better than "it'd be cool"

which is a strict don't

[eternal escarp]

also the amount of marks doesnt mean anything, its just if it has one or doesnt

people like to add reactions for the hell of it

[crude geode]

^

[gilded citrus]

I see button i press button

[hot bison]

yeah i know

that

is why i said that i will be just a prototype

for reference

[hot bison]

there's literally no other points in existance of this item, besides not feeling like a monster coz u left shroomble alone

[lean surge]

When do this last week’s suggestions get forwarded

[half imp]

is the bot dead

[lean surge]

Idk, I was just curious lol

[earnest raptor]

is Nycro experiencing the same snowstorms as I do?

[mossy pelican]

Maybe?

[deft yew]

it was supposed to push suggs like 17 hours ago i think

[lean surge]

I hope mine is pushed

[glass arch]

toxicatfish and trashers drop it too @kind dune

[kind dune]

damn, must have missed it, looked into vanilla changes and everything

should I delete the post?

[glass arch]

if your reasoning is that its super rare for no reason it should be changed

[hazy nacelle]

making drops more common is preferable to me instead of giving everything a crafting recipe

lots of crafting recipes were literally removed in Brainstorm to return to drop based economy

and you still need jellyfish necklace, another rarer drop

[glass arch]

you dont have to delete the suggestion if you think the recipe would be beneficial but you do need reasoning that supports it being rare as shit for no reason

[glass arch]

actually jellyfish necklace is a fairly common drop

[hazy nacelle]

drops from many more enemies but not more common

[glass arch]

by individual chance yes

[kind dune]

I fixed the original messege

the problem was mainly the shark drop rate I think, they are insanly rare

[tepid crown]

this doesnt include the fact that the pink, blue and green also got increased to 3%

[hazy nacelle]

sharks have special spawning rules unlike other Ocean enemies

[indigo yacht]

honestly i disagree it didn't take me long to get one with a zerg potion

i wouldn't be against buffing the drop rate though

10% or 15% maybe

[glass arch]

yeah its a 3% drop from a lot more enemies or a 10% drop from mirage jellies (which do need some level of abyss exploration but its not too bad)

[tepid crown]

anyways yes jellyfish necklace is certainly common especially when you consider they can spawn pretty much anywhere underground, which is where you will be for a while at the start of the game

[crude geode]

The only real case where you need to farm diving helmet is multiplayer. single player you can just grab the Arctic diving gear from the Arctic Bio Lab iirc

[indigo yacht]

not anymore

[glass arch]

thats gone iirc

[mossy pelican]

That got removed

🐌

Both of yous

[kind dune]

the problem is that the abyss is really important and to lock it behind a grind that require zerg potion and is still long, to me a problem

[indigo yacht]

ok but like

you can just use a gills potion

for layer 1

[glass arch]

you are wrong here

[mossy pelican]

I think having the diving helmet have a chance to spawn in those first sulphur sea chests would be ideal

[indigo yacht]

get outta here bestie

[tepid crown]

@glass arch @mossy pelican 🐌

[mossy pelican]

🐌

[indigo yacht]

like seriously just a gills potion was plenty for me

[tepid crown]

thats client side only

as i am a third party, my view is absolute

[indigo yacht]

you only need diving gear to get to like layer 4 tbh

[mossy pelican]

To get this past the images

[mossy pelican]

And your view still shows me as first?

[kind dune]

thats a great idea

[mossy pelican]

Wtf the image changes when I open it?

What kind of sorcery

Okay I closed and reopened discord and its back to normal

I’m snail

[mossy pelican]

I think its a non-invasive, simple change that could solve the given issue

[plush flame]

why does it look like that

[vocal wedge]

Look like what?

Oh.

[mossy pelican]

The theme or snail

[plush flame]

the snail

[mossy pelican]

Snail is bc IOS

[plush flame]

ah

why does ios's snail look like that

[mossy pelican]

Bc theyre dumb

[tame vigil]

Yeah, that's a good idea

[mossy pelican]

Omg a dev liked my idea

Someone catch me, I might faint

[drowsy plank]

it should prolly be in a secondary treasure slot like fledgling wings in sky chests

also wait, really, snow bio-lab just lost it's unique chest completely?

that's a bit sad ngl

[quaint carbon]

It did

Which also meant the loss of a free arctic diving gear

That wasn't mentioned on the wiki until I discovered it myself

[glass arch]

holy shit add appearance

[karmic stone]

I have 355 defense rb

[tepid crown]

wouldnt it be better for the cleansing effect to not work on laud debuffs if u have laud on? since u could have teammates who dont have laud that would still benefit from the aura + itd make the cleanse usable if u have laud

[mossy pelican]

I feel like the clearing laud might be a bug

[glass arch]

it isnt

[tepid crown]

it isnt the cleansing aura has no check for laud (prob because like 20 people max use this item)

[karmic stone]

waow

Make Grand Gelatin's and The Absorber's cleansing effect not affect players with Laudanum or Occult Skull Crown equipped

I could do that and adjust the rest of the text a bit

[glass arch]

osc and laud dont actually change the debuff ids they just change what the debuff does

[karmic stone]

done

[lucid marsh]

Want to know what's crazy?

Laudanum is in most ways a buffed version of ankh shield

Minus the knockback immunity

I assume people use ankh shield

Also I know they don't cover all the same debuffs but they cover some right?

...I should check

[lean surge]

Has nothing still been pushed?

[keen zodiac]

@inland saddle sugg bot is kil

[drowsy plank]

this would probably fare better as a bug report @kind dune

[kind dune]

ok, thank you, ill move it there

[deep cape]

I have a balance issue to report but don’t feel like it

This can’t be an oversight it is too insane to have made it past playtesting unnoticed

It’s not even a specific synergy

The monolith hammer has a use time of 9

[half imp]

ok..?

[drowsy plank]

you should try filing a balance report then because this means literally nothing

[deep cape]

Ok

Just it’s insanely fast for the point in progression when you get it and the general bad-ness of wooden tools

[glass arch]

this is calamity we dont have to bother with that we buffed pearlwood bow

[dense locust]

pearlwood got killed iirc

[glass arch]

partially

it doesnt have rainbows but it did get a >2x base damage buff (32 rather than vanillas 12)

[whole tundra]

Suggestion bot dead

[golden sonnet]

it's not immediately upgraded because the upgrade is post plant. Suggestion is probably still valid but I would clarify that

wait nvm forgot it uses chloro now

it is an insta

I'm silly

[crude geode]

Yeah this suggestion has been made a few times. Still valid

[glass arch]

even if it was post plant there would still be an instagrade in the form of texcal to terra

[mossy pelican]

Cant really make it too much more explicit than “Power cell factory”

[sleek turret]

welp gonna have to yellow paint them

[keen zodiac]

i think the issue is that you have no idea what it is unless you happen to mine it

[remote dune]

there are buff sprites in tooltips now
maybe could put a little power cell factory sprite with "generated by power cell factories" in the tooltip

[plush flame]

#suggestions-posting message 2.1 somewhat fixed this by making them alternatives, true excalibur has better range but excalibur has higher damage

[kind laurel]

I'm still on team "TE uses Ashes of Calamity"

[novel belfry]

yo

[keen zodiac]

pluh

[lean surge]

Honestly yeah Excalibur is in a weird spot

It would feel weird making it available earlier, would feel really weird making true Excalibur later on

[oblique birch]

this was already a thing tho

[plush flame]

20 -> 45 use time

excalibur was just murdered for no reason

but now its actually usable

[oblique birch]

I can see why that was a thing because less range, slow speed, big damage as opposed to more range, high speed, less damage

like the idea of sidegrade was more prominent

[plush flame]

except that it didnt actually have the base damage to make the less than half swing speed actually usable

[oblique birch]

yep

it's just balancing issue that makes Excal utterly useless

[plush flame]

thankfully its buffs rose it to D but true is B

[oblique birch]

strongest buff ever

💪

[lucid marsh]

Excalibur is also post one mech in vanilla. You could make it crafted with mythril and souls of light, or one of any mech soul

[dense locust]

ysee the problem here is that early hm rework still exists

moving excal earlier in progression just moves the problem to some other item

the only real solutions are moving something to be after clone or a mech alt or trying to make excal and true ex competitive

[lucid marsh]

Let me double check the crafting

No it does not cause any problem actually

Excalibur instantly upgrades to true Excalibur via chlorophyte

[hazy nacelle]

too many ores at that point in progression, you got the 3 hardmode ores, infernal suevite, cryonic, hallowed, chlorophyte, perennial

[crude geode]

^

[keen zodiac]

6 hardmode ores*

[hazy nacelle]

yeah yeah, but that's only because Calamity spawns both but then doesn't spawn both pre-hm ores

[dense locust]

never forget that you average like 3 new armor sets per boss for every boss between wof and golem

[hazy nacelle]

no, the planetoids do not count because they don't have gold/platinum

and were bugged too

[keen zodiac]

pretty sure it does

[dense locust]

it doesnt

you do not generate with both gold and platinum

[hazy nacelle]

you get some of the other first two tiers in planetoids but not the third

or fourth, right

just copper/tin and iron/lead

[oblique birch]

yeah

[lucid marsh]

Excalibur should drop from your first mech boss directly

[dense locust]

just copper and iron unless they finally fixed that

[oblique birch]

lol?

[mossy pelican]

Excalibur should drop from cryogen “sword in the ice”

[lucid marsh]

Or be crafted with an equivalent item

[tepid crown]

i believe it was fixed

[dense locust]

the current system we have for excal and true excal works well enough there is no real need to change it

[mossy pelican]

Perhaps the divine swine can bless the player with excalibur

[lucid marsh]

No it absolutely does not

[errant wren]

no obviously we add a "broken excalibur" item that needs to be fixed with mech souls

i'll see myself out

[dense locust]

letting the 2 compete is better than moving excal and just having it be blatently better or worse than whatever the ore sword for that tier is

[mossy pelican]

Like some kind of, true excalibur?

[lucid marsh]

Excalibur is obtained by crafting it with hallowed bars. You get hallowed bars after killing all three mech bosses. You also get chlorophyte after killing all 3 mech bosses, so it instantly upgrades.

[hazy nacelle]

it was fixed in 2.1, or at least according to patch notes

[mossy pelican]

Could always make it something like rox with the lock

[lucid marsh]

That's absurd As a true melee weapon, it has a specific niche. Other weapons are better for other situations

The ore swords are a joke anyways

[dense locust]

excal is litterally just a slightly cooler ore sword

[lucid marsh]

It has much larger range and a lingering hitbox from the trail effect

[lucid marsh]

Plus it covers behind you

[dense locust]

ok so you're just proving my point
at best you would make it a similar situation as current excal and true excal have where mythril sword or whatever has better damage but less range
but if its going to be the same situation either way there is no real reason to move the item

[lucid marsh]

The difference is that no one would ever make the ore swords anyways, so you're not losing anything

[mossy pelican]

Or you could make it drop from queen slime “sword in the slime” and nerf it equivalently

[dense locust]

there is no difference
"nobody will use this anyway" is a fucking dogshit argument

[lucid marsh]

It wouldn't need much of a nerf because it's balanced for post 1 mech as it is

[dense locust]

it isnt though

because cal buffs the shit out of it to try and make it compete with true excal

[lucid marsh]

Then don't do that

[dense locust]

so instead of "buff excal a little so the competiton is a little closer"

you think retiring the weapon and rebalancing it entirely is a more efficient solution

[lucid marsh]

Yes

Because instant upgrades are bad

And trying to make a weapon compete with it's "upgrade" is also bad

Not so much efficient but rather it solves the bigger problem

[dense locust]

and making a weapon directly outclass a different weapon with no reason to use the latter is worse than both of those.

[lucid marsh]

I don't agree

Though if I did, I would say that this is already happening just by there being literally any other weapon than the ore swords in a tier

[dense locust]

no

because cal makes the ore swords not total dogshit

and even still they're relatively easy to make compared to other options at the same tier

[mossy pelican]

All true melee players should be fed to the hog

[lucid marsh]

Then that can be their advantage: being less special but easier to get

[urban berry]

...for fun???

[dense locust]

what are you even trying to say

[urban berry]

There's still a reason to use it

and it's for fun.

Yeah, you can fight calamitas clone with true excalibur

but where's the fun in that, if I can just grab a basic excalibur and get the same results

[dense locust]

ok but the moment for fun is included as an agument the entire point of the discussion goes out the window

[urban berry]

Alright then.

Why do people play Terraria?

[dense locust]

you can litterally justify anything with "do it for fun though" by that logic

[indigo yacht]

sometimes i ask myself that too

[errant wren]

glory, actually

[drowsy plank]

i could use copper shortsword on scal that doesn't mean it should be balanced to kill her on time

[urban berry]

And guess what

That glory gives them fun.

[drowsy plank]

if you dont actually want to understand the purpose of this channel dont come in here with these bad faith arguments

[lucid marsh]

Cog, don't you think it would be better to just make regular Excalibur obtained earlier so that it isn't an instagrade, instead of trying to balance it to match true Excalibur

It would be fun to use it earlier against things where it's effective, like the regular enemies in early hardmode and slower bosses

[indigo yacht]

are both of them true melee

[lucid marsh]

Yes but one is bigger

[drowsy plank]

personally, yeah, but from what ive seen doze talk about, i dont think that's going to be how it happens. i think the plan was to make true excal post calclone so you would use it on plant to get terra blade

[indigo yacht]

right

[urban berry]

Ok wait that's a much better idea

[lucid marsh]

That's sort of reasonable

[novel belfry]

yooo

[lean surge]

Yeah ngl I think Calamity takes more from Plantera or Golem’s loot for its bosses and that kind of sucks

I personally have a great distaste for Plaguebribger in particular

Virulence and Malevolence feel roughly referential to Bee Keeper and Bee’s Knees so I kinda like em but the rest is blegh

Really I just want Swarmer to be redone into a PBG drop since that would be fun

[craggy girder]

Hardened Plaguecomb that explodes into Plagued Honeycomb

[lean surge]

Yeah like I think most of the PBG drops could be removed and just have ones that reference the original QB drops

[sleek turret]

giant meatballs

[rancid lotus]

@lucid dragon
You might want to re-phrase this so it doesn't look like you're just complaining about having trouble with a boss.

[drowsy plank]

well someone else already did the ping so w/e

point explained

[rancid lotus]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1dRB4W_bVX7qj_wAwi-w2E6MTitvIpg0xafeAvKDsLyU/edit?usp=sharing
Here's the full suggestion guidelines doc if you want it.

Also I would advise going above the Leviathan because it only has a cone of where it can fire meteors from my experience.

[rancid lotus]

Though doing this makes it spawn Aquatic Aberrations.

[lucid dragon]

ik, ive beat this mod more times than i can count by now

[craggy girder]

i do think the bosses should get liek

reworked.

but thats like saying that fablamnity sucks

[lucid dragon]

it just feels kinda lazy having it spam projectiles 24/7

[rancid lotus]

You should probably put that in your suggestion because people tend to be more open to someone's suggestion if they're experienced and have beaten the boss.

[crude geode]

not really

[tepid crown]

baby mothrons in disguise

[lean surge]

I see their point because Levi looks awful while shooting the meteors and it’s boring as fuck go play but like… the devs know this lmfao

[mossy pelican]

Meatball boy strikes again

[indigo yacht]

https://tenor.com/view/whatever-go-my-scarab-scarab-assyst-gif-9837798423909404507

[lean surge]

Some suggestions are so funny cause they can be so obvious

Like yeah the devs 100% already know this is an issue lmfao

[indigo yacht]

yes but also a suggestion can make that obvious issue go from one that'll be fixed eventually™ to one that's being fixed in the next update

you understand the idea of community feedback right

if there's nobody calling it a problem they'll fix it when they have the time and human resources to do that, but if there are people complaining about it then they'll likely make it a higher priority

[lean surge]

This is true but I mean when it’s these bigass things like “oh this boss is not as good as it should be” as if the devs aren’t acutely aware of that lmfao

[vocal wedge]

Isn't the plan to only update bosses with major changes when they're overhauling them to modern standards?

[dense locust]

a: stabber is bugged atm and will get fixed at some point
b: useless my ass that shit is broken

[oblique birch]

@frigid swallow no, it's broken in both ways

[rancid lotus]

@frigid swallow
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1dRB4W_bVX7qj_wAwi-w2E6MTitvIpg0xafeAvKDsLyU/
You should prolly read the suggestion doc if you haven't already.

[keen zodiac]

also this obviously isn't intended

[lean surge]

Oh my god bruh

[plush flame]

i can assure you dazzling stabbers being considering broken every single frame and thus nearly unusable as a result is actually an intended feature of 2.1.2 meant to counterbalance how strong they were in 2.1.0 and 2.1.1

[boreal lichen]

the developers definitely intended everything thats gamebreaking

[lean surge]

Do we have an eta on Nycro revival

[plush flame]

#suggestions-posting message yeah thats a good one

[keen zodiac]

should also apply to aether monolith

[craggy girder]

angle treads ...

[hollow shell]

Huh

[rancid lotus]

👀

[lean surge]

Yeah that did change

[hollow shell]

I guess they're not identical?

[rancid lotus]

They're very different looking imo.

[lean surge]

She got a resprite shortly (?) after her rework

[hollow shell]

((also damn SCal is wide))

[hollow shell]

((This is purely a comment on her sprite, I'm saying she looks goofy. CMT whitenames should not interpret that statement any other way.))

[oblique birch]

yeah this is the Bountiful Harvest resprite

[lean surge]

She is kind of plushie-ish

Honestly probably a good suggestion

[drowsy plank]

the old one is styled after actual terraria npcs

the new one is styled like a developer transformation vanity

[hollow shell]

Also @lean surge Did you mean to type a different word than "like" in your sugg's title?

[lean surge]

Thank you

[hollow shell]

👍

[rancid lotus]

Who?

[warm tendon]

personally I think it could still work as a normal terrarian vanity, given the sheer girth of demonshade armor

[lean surge]

😭

[hollow shell]

((CMT meaning #calamity-mod-talk . "whitenames" meaning Discord users without roles, in the sense of 'general public' or 'average user'.))

[lean surge]

I do kinda agree

[rancid lotus]

Light Mode ruins this analogy.

[hollow shell]

Fair enough lol

[warm tendon]

idk maybe it's just me, but I feel like having the old sprite as a vanity(Calamitous set) without having the current dripped out SCal sprite as a vanity is just kinda lame XD Calamitous set is literally "budget Calamitas" while the real one is like.. right there

[lean surge]

Nah I kinda agree lol

[rancid lotus]

Why is Calamitous Set dropped from SCal and not a silk set?

[warm tendon]

of course you'd need to adapt either her head or hood as a mask or vanity item, because otherwise the Terrarian's head would look goofy. personally I'd go for the head since imo the hood just looks kinda silly

[hollow shell]

SCal doesn't have a mask. That's her boss vanity.

[warm tendon]

not sure. Probably cuz it's the old sprite so they wanted to reference it? idk

[warm tendon]

I would make the headpiece the hood and add a SCal mask

honestly I'd do it myself if I had any level of skill and wasn't so lazy

[oblique birch]

the new sprite vanity will either be a transformation item or there'll be 2 separate sprites for each armor piece

[rancid lotus]

What is the left sprite supposed to be?

[keen zodiac]

the inventory item

[oblique birch]

since the new hood doesn't follow the normal NPC sprite so it'll look odd if equipped alone

[hollow shell]

? No it's more like the set always dropped from SCal and it didn't get resprited even after SCal did

There's no intentionality behind it being her "old" appearance

[warm tendon]

alright sure but so would the rest of the set

just like demonshade

you put on that demonshade helmet alone and it looks so stupid- but that's not what it's designed around. Imo the only "flexible" piece of the demonshade set is the legs

[lean surge]

It could work but the spritesheet would obvs need to be modified for it

I know how armor spritesheets work, it would be fine

[oblique birch]

nvm I'm mistaking it with Exo armor's case

[earnest raptor]

demonshade should become ashes of anhi set

[lean surge]

You’re not wrong

[drowsy plank]

it is

[warm tendon]

"Mom I want SCal Vanity." Mom: "we have SCal vanity at home"(Calamitous set).

[drowsy plank]

becoming i mean

[hollow shell]

That's been the intent for it since the time I was still a dev

[earnest raptor]

my bones!

[hollow shell]

me when i look at my beloved collection of bones

[dense locust]

was it still a multiclass set at the time

I feel like it was but not 100%

[warm tendon]

what will be the new shadowspec armor? I'm not aware of some of the upcoming changes

[rancid lotus]

You used to be a Dev?

[dense locust]

yes

very long time ago now

[drowsy plank]

rogue/ranger, mage/summoner, melee i think

it's on the doc

[dense locust]

they left with 22 iirc

[drowsy plank]

in #calamity-update-talk

[lean surge]

I’m iffy on this

[polar bison]

Prime rover was goated

Then they got him

It’s a shame

[lean surge]

But it’s better than both being multiclass even if gem tech is extremely annoying

[polar bison]

Liked him too

[lean surge]

We have Eridanus armor at home

[dense locust]

gem tech is a very different kind of multiclass

[lean surge]

It is but it’s just boring vs not boring multiclass

And Gem Tech is the not boring one

[hollow shell]

It was.

The plan was to eventually make it a class split similar to Godslayer and Silva, with the counterpart being a new Exo armor.
Demonshade would get Mage obviously but I don't remember the rest lol
iirc

[rancid lotus]

Did any of the 22 return after Fabsol got removed?

[warm tendon]

not seeing anything about demonshade becoming an ashes of annihilation armor

just about the classes being spread over 3 helmets

[dense locust]

not that I know of

[hollow shell]

Yeah for a long time
I left during the "22" event

[rancid lotus]

Is there going to be a new Exo Armor that's like an arsenal armor kit that looks like Thanatos with black metal and exo prisms/miracle matter?

[hollow shell]

Ah damn either I'm misremembering or the plans evolved over time

[rancid lotus]

That was the one were 20-or-so devs left in 2022 because Fabsol was being Fabsol correct?

[earnest raptor]

suggestions will not moderate themselves, though

[lean surge]

I may need to use Gem Tech

But it just seems more complex than it needs to be ngl

[earnest raptor]

it's a donator item

of course it is quirky

[warm tendon]

I believe so

[hollow shell]

Yeah, yep

[lean surge]

And annoying with the summoner stuff

[rancid lotus]

A miracle matter average-armor set would go hard as a counter-part to Demonshade.

[tame vigil]

immaterializer works nothing like legion of celestia because the entire line is a fucking mess and needs to be reworked entirely

[warm tendon]

an upgradable arsenal armor that you can eventually turn into exo armor

[lean surge]

That is correct

Which is why I mentioned it

[earnest raptor]

was immaterializer ever changed?

[rancid lotus]

Or just a 4th arsenal armor stage made with exo mech materials.

[tame vigil]

look at this line. what is this. why is this.

[hollow shell]

Riiiight I forgot that was a thing / is going to be a thing

[warm tendon]

I believe that's it

[earnest raptor]

is it still good even after slots available were reduced?

[lean surge]

It’s not very Mircale Matter tho is it

[drowsy plank]

being reminded of this
#suggestions-voting message

[rancid lotus]

:steamhappy: Wait this real!

[lean surge]

Just exo themed

[warm tendon]

I think it will use exo prisms since it's a tier below demonshade iirc, but I could be wrong

[rancid lotus]

Miracle Matter would be cool as an average armor set, to take the place of old demonshade as an all-class pre-yharim armor set.

[lean surge]

Ehhh idk

[tame vigil]

so... auric.

[lean surge]

Armors at this stage are so messy cause of gem tech

[earnest raptor]

who's this guy

[warm tendon]

also hilarious how.. rotund the rightmost form looks

[rancid lotus]

I personally believe the Thanatos one should be the bulky one and should be darker metal to resemble Thanatos better.

[lean surge]

Anyways yeah I can’t think of any more examples for my post I won’t lie 😭

[warm tendon]

anyway I gotta head out: I think an actual SCal vanity would be great. Current Calamitous set is literally "We have SCal vanity at home". I also think they should add a SCal mask. Goodnight yall

[lean surge]

True…

[rancid lotus]

Bye.

[lean surge]

I think scal mask that is just her face would be fine ngl

[warm tendon]

agreed. That's exactly what it should be

[earnest raptor]

that sounds morbid

[warm tendon]

that's what all other boss masks are

[lean surge]

Yeah masks tend to be

[earnest raptor]

we kill bosses kind-of-permanently

but calamitas stays alive after each fight

[warm tendon]

true but it's never implied the masks are literally their head- otherwise we couldn't wear them. They're probably exactly they're called: masks

[earnest raptor]

yes, but calamitas probably wouldn't consent to skinning her face alive

[rancid lotus]

Did you read what Aesyaan said?

[earnest raptor]

yes, but bosses die and explode into gore

that can be turned into mask

[warm tendon]

..because we won't

masks aren't the bosses gore

they're masks made to replicate their appearance

[rancid lotus]

I think boss gore should be turned into weaponry.

[warm tendon]

there's no way to turn any part of Moon lord after he explodes into a mask

-cuz there's only a skeleton left

[earnest raptor]

fargo's is down that street

[warm tendon]

they're literally just fake masks XD

[rancid lotus]

That's why I like the leviathan drops visually, they actually look like they're dropped from Anahita and the Leviathan.

[warm tendon]

plus even if they were made from the boss(which they obviously aren't), I can kick SCal's arse so it doesn't matter whether she is okay with me skinning her face or not, because she doesn't have a choice. Just needs to drink an omega healing potion

[lean surge]

This literally happens in vanilla lo

[rancid lotus]

It's like saying a fox mask is take from a fox's face, no, it's just a thing people make for fun.

[warm tendon]

exactly.

[rancid lotus]

Also, if it're made from the boss' gore, it would provide defense.

[warm tendon]

also true

so a SCal mask is just fine. face skin or not.

[earnest raptor]

yes, but fargo's explicitly says it

[novel belfry]

WELL

WE AINT FARGOS

[rancid lotus]

But turning bosses into weapons is so metal 😢

[novel belfry]

clearly you should play monster hunter

[lean surge]

For better or for worse

(Worse)

[rancid lotus]

Chat do we think the Galactus blade needs an upgrade?

[tame vigil]

no.

[drowsy plank]

does galactus blade even need to exist?

[rancid lotus]

It is the first item ever added according to the wiki.

[lean surge]

No harm no foul, imo

It’s boring but like whatever, it’s also a historic item

[lean surge]

But to answer, eh it’s fine

One could be cool but idc

[keen zodiac]

it should be renamed (galaxia is 3 bosses later)

[dense locust]

I think it would be a bit of a waste to remove it at this point, visually the weapon is up to par its just funtionally boring as shit

it can be made good even if it has to get ship of theseused to do so

[rancid lotus]

They could do something to make it a bit more interesting than Star Wrath 2.0

Horizontal Stars trust.

Wait why is nuclear chaos in here?

[lean surge]

I don’t think it needs to be

Just make it have like, some sort of interesting use

Like make it slow but drop a giant fuck you star

[keen zodiac]

astral's end

[rancid lotus]

Make each color of star a different size and effect.

[rancid lotus]

And make every 15th star a massive green star.

[rancid lotus]

Like this but cooler.

[silent knoll]

Are you allowed to make a weapon suggestion?

[kind laurel]

What do you mean?

You aren't allowed to ask for a specific weapon to be added if that's what you're asking

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1dRB4W_bVX7qj_wAwi-w2E6MTitvIpg0xafeAvKDsLyU/edit?tab=t.0#heading=h.uvsuo5gj8680

[silent knoll]

I was going to say that there should be a weapon reflecting your progress to the very late game

[kind laurel]

Ark of the Cosmos? Exoblade?

[silent knoll]

Like, if demonshade armour is for all classes, there should be a weapon that is for all classes as well

I always took issue with items like Zenith in the base game since while it's the strongest weapon in the game, it leaves out the other classes

I Calamity we have weapons like the Zenith for all classes but I am missing something that unifies all of them

[kind laurel]

Generally the endgame is kinda wack because the final boss, Yharim, doesn't exist yet
You can't suggest anything for him as "Future Content Suggestions" are banned

[silent knoll]

A reflection of the whole of your treasury and not just one part of it

[kind laurel]

I can't quite tell if your thing counts as too specific so I'll just wait for someone with more experience here to give their judgement

[silent knoll]

Yeah this was just something more of a nitpick I had because I think that the final weapon representing the peak of weapons should be classless

I have some ideas about how to make something like that but nothing too concrete

[gilded citrus]

Miracle matter weapons sorta do this for every class

[silent knoll]

True, but I mean something specifically for the very end of the game. Like the Zenith in vanilla Terraria, a single weapon that clearly stands apart from everything else, but for every class. A final progression goal that represents the culmination of the entire playthrough, ideally something that reflects all classes rather than just one

[hazy nacelle]

that's a SIS

[silent knoll]

It's not something specific though

[hazy nacelle]

you should explain the problem that is caused by an item not existing, and explain how adding an appropriate item would solve that problem and improve the mod.

[silent knoll]

So the problem would be that I'm missing an weapon that unifies all the classes like the demonshade armour does or rather seems intended to do

So adding that item would give a reason to look at all the classes in a playthrough rather than dedicating yourself to just one

It would also reflect on your journey in a deeper way as all you've been working towards gets combined into one thing

I would think that's pretty much in the spirit of the mod

Would that phrasing fly better?

[gilded citrus]

Demonshade is gonna become classed and not the final armour eventually btw

[boreal lichen]

#suggestions-posting message daedalus armor being reworked in the future is known and would have the helmet count reduced

[drowsy plank]

why are you acting like miracle matter weapons dont work for this

[drowsy plank]

demonshade armor does not do this and is being reworked regardless

@kind laurel this is already planned

[mossy pelican]

#suggestions-posting message

Son im crine

[dusty atlas]

what?

[mossy pelican]

Oh you added more

[dusty atlas]

mb i pressed the wrong button

[mossy pelican]

I sent that when all I saw was the header

[dusty atlas]

lol

[mossy pelican]

Lol you good

[drowsy plank]

this has no reasoning

i really dont think molten needs any buffs tbqh..,..,.,.,.

[calm knot]

i just thought itd make sense

since most people (except me because im cool) won't go out of their way to use the elemental system, why not make the elemental system go out of its way to use them

[indigo yacht]

erm i dont really wanna get used by the elemental system...

[calm knot]

shoulda thought about that before you ignored it

[frail fox]

Magma stone about to become the most broke accessory ever

[indigo yacht]

i stole all of its money

[calm knot]

True...

[gaunt crystal]

I mean

[half imp]

For the record the sand variant thing is just gonna get locked in voting

[gaunt crystal]

I was surprised when I saw that the molten armor did nothing related to heat debuffs

[mossy pelican]

I thought molten made you resist or immune to a few of them

[gaunt crystal]

I expected it to have a weaker form of the fire gauntlet tbh

[mossy pelican]

Namely the lava ones

[gaunt crystal]

also am I crazy or is there a titanic gap between parts of the main melee accessory line?

[dense locust]

make it larger

[mossy pelican]

I feel like vanilla should have made feral claws and magma stone combine since theyre both prehm

[gaunt crystal]

I kinda have a dumb idea for an accessory between the two but I have no idea how it'd work on a coding level

[calm knot]

true!

[dense locust]

words cannot describe how much I hate the post dog class accessories they either remove any and all nuance from build creating or its pouch which is just bad

[gaunt crystal]

I only dislike the summoner one

why does it give you less slots

[calm knot]

i mean the elemental gauntlet is just the flame gauntlet but pretty

[calm knot]

for shits and giggles i guess

[gaunt crystal]

but the main bit is I think an astral bar gauntlet would be cool to bridge the gap

[dense locust]

no its fire gauntlet but instead of having some semblance of reasons to not use it for melee its just always optimal in every situation that isnt a 0 offensive tank build

[calm knot]

what melee player isn't going to use the gauntlet

genuinely

[dense locust]

fire gauntlet? I can definitely think of some reasons to, mainly regarding builds that dont care about melee speed

ele gauntlet? basically none of them

[calm knot]

Hellfire debuff
24% increased true melee damage
increased weapon size

[dense locust]

the vast majority of true melees already care about melee speed

and by extension size

meanwhile if I'm using like, fallen paladins hammer on duke I can absolutely see not needing fgaunt and just running dest emblem + celestial shell or smth

[calm knot]

okay so not counting true melee specific attributes thats still 14% more damage

[calm knot]

most people aren't swapping their loadouts per boss

they just run with one per major boss

[gaunt crystal]

one thing I think is worth mentioning

it's generally decent design to have the bedrock for builds become simpler the closer you get to the end

[dusty atlas]

what does that mean?

[indigo yacht]

not necessarily true, sometimes you just have the extra accessories lying around and you might as well swap to them

sometimes I'll go and get celshell then realize i don't have an open slot for it then end up equipping it later

[half imp]

It conflicts with existing plans

[dusty atlas]

aw dangint

[half imp]

The new sand will be obtained in the new sunken sea generation once we finish it

[dusty atlas]

ah

oke

ty

[calm knot]

thats awesome,

[gaunt crystal]

doze

would you like a bnnuy?

[dense locust]

I think this has subconsciously bugged me since I first played cal in like, 2019 "oh cool its crimson armor effect, I dont know what that entails"

[lean surge]

Doesn’t help that even the vanilla wiki is pretty unclear about Crimson armor’s effect 😭 😭 😭

Actually it’s kinda clear nvm

Here it is

[tepid crown]

its quite clear its just natural health regen fucking sucks

(not that in its bad just sucks in trying to comprehend it)

[lean surge]

This is true

But in-game it is legit just “hey you have more life regen with this on”

[royal tapir]

I'm pretty sure Calamity rewrites Crimson armor's set bonus tooltip

Saying "equivalent to Crimson armor" is such an archaic thing

[dense locust]

genuenely do not think that part of the tooltip has changed since bloodflare was added

[royal tapir]

Like how Mana Polarizer used to say "grants Spectre healing"

[mossy pelican]

This is why I always choose corruption, that and crimson’s weird obsession with flesh

[royal tapir]

Anyway easy fix

Done

[dense locust]

it does but in a kind of weird way

like the second 2 parts are just describing what natural regen does
and it doesnt mention the increased ramp up speed at all which stuff like honey buff tooltip does mention

[royal tapir]

This works fine enough

[dense locust]

I dont super agree but if you've already changed the bf tooltip I'll just delete the sugg until its actually ingame

[worthy lintel]

your post-ml armor is equivalent in strength in this particular effect to a pre-hardmode one

🥀

[signal flume]

It would be a good idea if there were an accessory that makes it so that when landing true melee hits it has an effect such that when receiving a hit, adrenaline is not completely lost but rather decreases by a percentage

hello

[fossil finch]

i dont think true melee players need any more help

[lean surge]

I think they do but only in terms of bosses being designed with true melee in mind

Then true melee balance can change to account for that

[craggy girder]

landing consistant hits gains a particle shield that protects a section of the adrenaline bar, but using it preemptively only uses the unprotected part of the bar
if the entire bar is protected, the duration of adrenaline is tripled but it gives 50% the boost

i like the idea

[signal flume]

thank u

https://tenor.com/view/rher-gif-15448723785040478051

[mossy pelican]

Bot is back

Holy cow

[keen zodiac]

yippee

[lean surge]

Yay!

But when are things getting pushed 🤔

[crude geode]

referring to the elementals as waifus in 2026 is certainly something

[keen zodiac]

@cursive mountain

[rancid lotus]

@cursive mountain https://docs.google.com/document/d/1dRB4W_bVX7qj_wAwi-w2E6MTitvIpg0xafeAvKDsLyU/edit?usp=sharing
There's a doc on how to format suggestions properly.

[rancid lotus]

Can we also get a common sense doc?

[boreal lichen]

this also just clearly is meant to conflict with future content lmao

[lean surge]

?

[keen zodiac]

what pushed where

[lean surge]

Suggestions pushed to the devs

[keen zodiac]

it's scheduled

check pins

[lean surge]

What

No but like a Friday just happened

[keen zodiac]

the bot was dead

[indigo yacht]

have people no shame

[lean surge]

So y’all are just skipping a Friday…?

[keen zodiac]

if the bot doesn't work then it can't send them 😭

[lean surge]

Well yeah but I assumed y’all would just do it as soon as it got fixed

[mossy pelican]

It’ll prolly send the week it missed too

[lean surge]

Alright, just a bit odd

[lean surge]

Also very frustrating that I have to wait an entire extra week

When I could get feedback like, two days from now

[worthy lintel]

while kind of a joke sugg

rest assured there will be a mod to put back the old sprites made by some dude on the workshop in like 24 hours post update

its written in the sky

[crude geode]

Fr fr

[craggy girder]

"Calamity for the Wise and Intellect"
"Reverts the previous sprite changes to the Heart of the Elements Elementals."

ofc its not gonna be phrased THAT excellently they're prob gonna mention The Primary Aspect but

what cna you do

[quaint carbon]

I don't even mind the current designs, they're not that far off from the one elemental present in vanilla

If anything they got more detail that make them even better

[lucid marsh]

I agree

They're fine as is

The sprites could be higher quality, but the concept as it is is fine

[plush flame]

i think keeping brimmy's sprite which has barely been changed since she got added isn't exactly a good idea when we've already seen something very similar to what she's going to be

this but she's getting breast reduction surgery

[lucid marsh]

Oh I mean that's fine too

[plush flame]

like i'd much rather take this than naked woman on a rock

[lucid marsh]

I'm mainly focused on how visually interesting the sprite is

But some people HATE the fact that the elementals are designed to be attractive women

[quaint carbon]

I get that a lot of people complain about how sexualized brimmy is and they should focus more on making her look like an actual "brimstone elemental" but like

[coral carbon]

i think the elementals being attractive women is okay but they have to be actually designed attractive women and not just fabsolian "what if giant boobs"

[quaint carbon]

I just don't care. I don't mind a sexualized design like that in a mod that otherwise has fantastic art direction anyway

And again, elementals being attractive women are completely normal

Vanilla Terraria set that standard with the sand elemental

[quaint carbon]

This also looks like it'd be way too big

[indigo yacht]

i just dislike it because of how immature the fanbase at large is

[quaint carbon]

THAT is a fair complaint

[indigo yacht]

if the average calamity player knew how to act like an adult i wouldnt care

[quaint carbon]

But idk if toning down the elementals would even fix that. People thirst over Calamitas who is one of the least sexualized women in gaming.

[coral carbon]

again i dont think the elementals need to be changed entirely like the proposed cloud elemental resprite but i do think they need to be interestingly designed

[indigo yacht]

probably not. it would reduce their ammunition at least

[glass arch]

brimmys design just isnt very interesting tbqh

[quaint carbon]

I like her

But next to the others I totally get that

[cursive mountain]

I saw a yt video where the cloud elemental become a biblically accurate angel rather than the current sprite

[glass arch]

it getting toned down in the sexualization aspect is perfectly acceptable in my eyes if doing so comes packaged with her design getting better

[coral carbon]

i think that

a design can be attractive without being sexualized

[cursive mountain]

https://tenor.com/view/roblox-stare-love-woah-gif-10574348585421012450

Me seeing anahita:

[glass arch]

and yes by vanilla standards elementals dont have super interesting designs

but brimmy is just kinda an outlier for cals elementals

[quaint carbon]

Guess that’s not really something we can see eye to eye on then :p

But that’s understandable

[lucid marsh]

I completely agree with this

[keen zodiac]

same

ooo boobs scary

as long as it looks good who tf cares

[cursive mountain]

Boobs dont scare me

Biblically accurate angels do

And besides

It feels worth it to get a elemental and have a woman to protect you

[half imp]

yeah I agree with this

if they're just over sexualized horny bait to be that then it sucks

if there's a good reason behind it and they feel actually designed then I don't care

[worthy lintel]

i mean, if we look at ancient sculptures

humans were down bad for colossal assets in 30 000 BC

[quaint carbon]

I guess that's fair. If we're going off the sand elemental in vanilla then she's still a personified element in the form of a woman but she's not sexualized

[half imp]

Yeah

vanilla sand elemental kinda sucks anyway though tbh

[quaint carbon]

😔

[worthy lintel]

vanilla sprite slander...

cant believe it...

[quaint carbon]

And I do really love the cloud elemental and Anahita. Anahita's a cool fish thing, and I like the cloud elemental's armor and her hair

[half imp]

Anahita design is fantastic yeah

Cloud elemental is meh

[quaint carbon]

I recently learned that she used to look more like a siren which would explain the song you hear when she spawns. So it kinda sucks that theming got lost.

[half imp]

it's not like terrible but it feels like it could do so much more with the idea

[half imp]

I mean she still is a siren

[worthy lintel]

just

a beautiful siren

(usually sirens are disgusting to look at)

[half imp]

yeah

well

when you see past their trance

[craggy girder]

can i be of slightly spicy take and say that Brimmy's current sprite would do a lot better as a statue than an actual boss

[worthy lintel]

so the terrarian is forever clueless

[quaint carbon]

If you think about it, that makes him more based

[craggy girder]

like a statue of a noble vs what the noble actually looks like

[half imp]

if you set music volume to 0% anahita should turn ugly

[quaint carbon]

He can't see past the illusion of beauty and still stabs her in the heart

[worthy lintel]

we need a anahita sprite that is just her but looking like she was ran over...

and lots of teeth

[quaint carbon]

but yeah as for brimmy

I can understand wanting to make her more interesting

but there's parts of her I still think are cool

like sitting on that rock

and the cyclops thing is also neat :3

[craggy girder]

Anahita but Starbuck Logo

[quaint carbon]

her hair being flammable is a no brainer so

wont glaze that part too much

[worthy lintel]

man

[half imp]

my issue with brimmy is she's neither unique nor feels very brimstone or fire related except for Red

it feels like

[craggy girder]

if you made her Green and put her on some Leaves she'd also be the Overgrowth Elemental

if you made her Blue and put her on some Shells she'd also be the Aquatic Elemental

[quaint carbon]

idk I just find it difficult to be hard on her when this mod

pressed enter too early

when this mod's art direction is just so flooring anyway

But I understand that's no reason to compromise

[quaint carbon]

I still do have concerns about this design anyway like she's way too big

[half imp]

I don't think she's necessarily too big there tbh

[worthy lintel]

i mean, what do you think beauty standards were back in the days pictured in the mod

[half imp]

but like

[quaint carbon]

and is a lot more extra than the other elementals, AND doesn't give me the vibe of some slumbering force of nature that goes feral as described in the lore

[craggy girder]

ohhh. its blurry. yeah those are too big of jugalgagoos

[half imp]

I think that's

Oops pressed too early

[craggy girder]

i wasl ike "oh those arent that big" no they're sizable the blurriness just obscures the line

[worthy lintel]

the complaint that brimmy doesnt look like fire is very valid though

because yeah

oops

[half imp]

I think the biggest thing is yeah it doesn't really convey her weakened state well

[quaint carbon]

we are the same

ye

I understand wanting to make her more brimstone-y it's just that I don't mind her current design at all

[craggy girder]

i mean Me Personally as a Boss Fight Enjoyer we dont really get like. a pre-weaken Visual

we just hear "oh yeah this girl blew her up with her own beam and now she's hurt!!!" but like Where Is That

they look fine

[quaint carbon]

Wherever the redesign goes I just hope her current lore is kept in mind

but it looks like the team still at least wants to make her a little pretty so that's nice

[worthy lintel]

i dont know how one could portrait weakness on a fire character other than the flames/coloration being dim

[quaint carbon]

She doesn't have to look weak she just has to look unkempt

[craggy girder]

for the Patron(?) Saint(??????) ((i dont knowwwww)) i would expect at least a little beauty

[craggy girder]

big comical bump on head

[worthy lintel]

medicated bandage accessory

[craggy girder]

also Unkempt i think like messy hair

[quaint carbon]

That would be fun I think

flames on the fritz

[indigo yacht]

missing limbs, or if they're supposed to have a solid body underneath the flames make it visible in places where the fire has burned out

could also have them be emitting gas that hasn't caught fire or something in that same spirit of lacking ignition

or you could try something more experimental but also obvious like making them look cracked

[craggy girder]

this would be a bad idea unless perfectly executed

[indigo yacht]

why do you say that

[craggy girder]

specifically the

emitting gas
part.

i know you mean lighter fluid but i think the chemical stage

aka Clouds and again i only see poor with having a character basically emitting Plumes of Anything Not Smoke

(im not saiyng it directly bc i do not like the topic)

[indigo yacht]

I'm very confused

you know what natural gas looks like right

where it's clear but distorts the air behind it

[craggy girder]

yeah that'd be fine

i more so dont want it to look like brimmy is shitting herself

[indigo yacht]

you could just have jets of that along limbs or whatever

oh

crying

[craggy girder]

Yeah.

sob

[keen zodiac]

why's that bad though/genq

[craggy girder]

idk i heard a lotta people not enjoying of Brimmy with Bonkers and i conform to collective unless collective makes minimal sense

i am personally a fan of having other body types in media but brimmy in that art is kinda built like the letter p

[keen zodiac]

i like it since it's more surface area for the cool skin texturing

[craggy girder]

i mean i guess

you can def move them up if the chest was smaller though

[keen zodiac]

perhaps

[half mesa]

I don't really care about the boobs, but the legs I don't like. Why is this flowy dress skin tight on the legs and crotch? Hell, why are her legs posed like that in general?

[craggy girder]

like im fine with them having a bit of skin out (the current has Everything Out)

but also the design works the same if they're flat

[craggy girder]

true

why Is it vacuum sealed

[keen zodiac]

legs are supposed to be posed like this

sorry for good quality

[craggy girder]

this is five concurrent pixels

[half mesa]

TBF, I would say this goes for a lot of character designs in most contexts. Ultimately, some people have big boobs and some don't. I don't really care what size any redesign comes up with.

[craggy girder]

i mean yeah

this one i do remember being just flatout a mistake

they did not realize they made the jungagagloos That Big

[half mesa]

Pffft.

If the artist wishes to correct that mistake, that is their prerogative.

[quaint carbon]

I assumed she was just naked

And then her legs go inside the rock

[half mesa]

Not her current in-game sprite. It was this one.

[quaint carbon]

Oh my fault

Oh yeah that’s silly LOL

[earnest raptor]

that's a cool staff

[lean surge]

Oooohhh you willl vote for me ooooh

Actually I won’t have that it might disorient someone

And I only spread joy

[ripe owl]

that one garfield comic

[lean surge]

This is cool and I’m fine with sexualized designs but this is nearing One Piece proportions

[lucid marsh]

The dress is molten candle wax stuck to her body. This is why it sticks like that

[keen zodiac]

source?

[lucid marsh]

I made it up

But it's an explanation, if you want one

[oblique birch]

The source is in the Cathedral update the update of all time

[keen zodiac]

[lucid marsh]

Anyways idea: brimmy keeps the badonkas but her arms turn into like, bear claws or something, covered in flames, so she looks more feral

[gilded citrus]

Heres an old resprite from dia, afaik its outdated since boob reduction surgery is gonna happen a bit

[earnest raptor]

this resprite was what is discussed here

[oblique birch]

🐌

[gilded citrus]

Tfym snail im giving ben the image

[oblique birch]

For funsie

[gilded citrus]

Oh it was posted fucking hours ago

Kiriblight at it again

[oblique birch]

I think that can just go into #1052323733961977947 as it is an oversight or just ping a dev about it honestly

[ripe owl]

bug reports will kill it because no logs. why would i need logs

dev ping, eh, I suppose

@distant gyro hi you're kinda a localization nerd aren't you

[distant gyro]

ya

[umbral gazelle]

@calm knot i think you missed body text

im curious what will happen if the suggestion with only headliner and no body text being sent to #suggestions-voting how will it looks like

[calm knot]

i did forget but i don't think it really needs it

its all right there

[calm knot]

an interesting experiment

[lucid marsh]

Yeah I saw. I think it's good. Except maybe make it more feral

[gilded citrus]

I think thats what the phase 2 design will cover

[hollow shell]

☝️

[hollow shell]

Please.

At the very least provide some context for what HoAD does exactly and why it's strange its duration isn't indicated

[crude geode]

^

[lean surge]

Damn bruh my suggestion getting cooked

Ts is NOT going to the devs

[calm knot]

what was your suggestion

oh that one

[lean surge]

To be fair the most recent one is sort of a no brainer

[calm knot]

yeag

[grim tusk]

that doesnt happen since I left

now they are left to rot

and you can now see how many are:

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/770382926545813515/1128870458889085129/image0-4.gif

Tbh kinda makes sense no one bothers with clearing stuff anymore

It makes people go mad

[whole tundra]

#suggestions-posting message Can we keep 1 of those lines to mess with players

[ripe owl]

no

[distant gyro]

i like how the suggestion said "all instances" when i found one through ctrl f

[ripe owl]

[distant gyro]

i killed it

[ripe owl]

well I didn't know how many of them were left

so I decided to go with "all" for good measures

[lean surge]

Yea my suggestion is not gonna get enough votes for sure, that's alr tho

[hazy nacelle]

can confirm, I successfully reported and got an issue fixed without any logs, just detailed description of the problem

[lean surge]

🤔

[indigo yacht]

i dont think this is happening

[calm knot]

yeah i didn't figure but its the suggestion channel

the only thing restricting me is the 10 minute clock

ive had dumber ideas

[plush flame]

moon lord is also a name that exists in universe

and also archives coming Soon™

[calm knot]

yeah

also i think the slowmode should probably be extended

[plush flame]

i've seen enough. 28 day slowmode in sugg posting.

[calm knot]

okay maybe not that long

like 2 hours

[humble scarab]

just dont abuse it

[calm knot]

but i have Thoughts

[humble scarab]

use this channel

[calm knot]

how will the bot hear my thoughts if i do not speak them into the Chamber

[humble scarab]

bot is aware about this channel

[indigo yacht]

we're killing u

[calm knot]

not if i do it first!!
-# joking

[mossy pelican]

Cal devs dont like stepping on toes of vanilla

[humble scarab]

your 50$ role wont save you

[calm knot]

if i knew how to code i would do it myself
unfortunately
Microsoft XNA

[lean surge]

Which in some cases can be unfortunate

In this case, not really

[calm knot]

i would tap dance on vanilla's toes if i had the ability

unfortunately i have neither the shoes or the knowledge of how to dance

[deft yew]

https://tenor.com/view/jjk-higuruma-higuruma-anime-higuruma-oh-my-god-higuruma-son-gif-17189742323797679519

[calm knot]

alright ive been annoying enough for today

[gilded citrus]

@calm knot moonlord and fovos are both equally valid names for the celestial titan
Both are real and true lore wise, though fovos is chrysonai in origin so it may get name dropped in a sky island structure in the future idk

[worthy lintel]

most popular mod does not like modifying the game it aims to modify

im slandering so hard omg...

[calm knot]

stuff will happen someday

also i thought he was from the distortion

[gilded citrus]

Yeah but the name fovos is what chrysadia called it

We dont know its actual name if it even has one

[calm knot]

ahhh

alright

[worthy lintel]

moon lord is nameless...

[gilded citrus]

So is DoG

[worthy lintel]

parents so bad they dont give the child a name

[indigo yacht]

maybe he wasn't evil and he just felt unloved

[errant wren]

could the devourer's appetite have been satiated with a simple bowl of cereal?

[indigo yacht]

asking the real questions

[vocal wedge]

Moon Lord is also its canon name.

[gilded citrus]

Snail

[half imp]

I wonder

If prismatic breaker noise was part of the donor request

[deft yew]

was it?

[crude geode]

Who knows

[calm knot]

probably should ask

[worthy lintel]

the only donor item i ever remember with specific noise is anomaly's nanogun

[drowsy plank]

okay this is why i dont feel like sounds issues should be in suggestions cause like