suggestions-discussion

[indigo yacht]

i uh

its ok

[royal tapir]

Okay I'm being baited

I'm outta here

[indigo yacht]

if i didn't like what cit was saying i would simply make them explode

[errant wren]

i would comment but i have nothing to add other than this

[royal tapir]

We all know you'd explode first

[indigo yacht]

this is profiling

[golden sonnet]

I do agree that config suggestions are flawed and will pretty much never get through. If something is disagreed with enough to need a config it should be re-evaluated. Configs should pretty much just exist for mod comp

[drowsy plank]

explosion staring contest

[indigo yacht]

hold on let me find the gif

[errant wren]

staring content? yeah we tend to do that sometimes

[indigo yacht]

https://tenor.com/view/komaru-doesnt-explode-cat-yawn-gif-16514373145202179774

cant find it so you get the lite version

[buoyant rain]

no i was talking about just the overall thing even when he was talking to me

[drowsy plank]

why he eye so big

[indigo yacht]

i don't think he sent a single message to you

[errant wren]

cit only said one thing??

[indigo yacht]

they sent 2 to cog and one to me

[indigo yacht]

he is perfect

[drowsy plank]

true

[buoyant rain]

he did

[drowsy plank]

no right he said "I am not speaking to you"

[indigo yacht]

actually i think komaru is a she oopsies

[buoyant rain]

"mmmm I thought there was a don't about config suggestions"

and then he said "maybe not"

[drowsy plank]

that was to raesh

[royal tapir]

No green screen missile explosion so washed GIF

[buoyant rain]

oh well sorry it was right after me saying my message and asking whats wrong with it

[indigo yacht]

ran out of budget 💔

[craggy girder]

just copped that brand new update

and

it even got the sword to destroy all opps

watch this

slide whistle sfx

crash sfx

Damn!

haha. that was the wrong Fucking app

Updates are Awesome!

[indigo yacht]

?

[craggy girder]

Not a clue

[errant wren]

thank you for your input

[drowsy plank]

anyway im sure blood orb qol could die eventually i think the plans was after brewing was added since that was basically gonna let you make potions with higher outputs using blood orbs instead of just letting you replace the materials in their entirety outright

so instead of 1 wrath potion u could put x blood orbs into the brewing station, whatever that is, and get 5

[indigo yacht]

nice way of handling it

[buoyant rain]

that actually sounds good

[indigo yacht]

probably completely overkill but this is also the calamity community we're talking about

[buoyant rain]

or make a blood orb bait thats really good for fishing because imo the only annoying part about potions is fishing

[drowsy plank]

no idea when brewing is actually getting added but probably way more likely than adding fishing

actually wait a minute im stupid

[errant wren]

isn't fishing already in the game?

[buoyant rain]

LOL

[indigo yacht]

they should add fish

[drowsy plank]

actually thinking about it more, this is arguably an invalid suggestion because it explicitly details a solution; you should be focusing on the problem of blood orbs, not the solution (e.g.; a config) since solutions should be left up to the developers

[errant wren]

maybe like. also quests with an associated npc

[drowsy plank]

idk why im thinking about this so much there's no way in hell this is passing in voting lmao

[indigo yacht]

ur crazy

[errant wren]

maybe we can integrate some fights when fishing under certain conditions?

just thinking out loud here

[buoyant rain]

just ignore it

[indigo yacht]

i dont mean to alarm you all. but i am cooking up an absolute banger of a suggestion. it may very well be my best work yet. here is a sneak peak. stay tuned everyone.

[north oracle]

This is nearly as good as friendly

[indigo yacht]

are you attempting to suggest i am performing some sort of psyop

[surreal pebble]

I'm going to go out on a limb and say friendly is +1 minion slot?

[keen zodiac]

✅ ✅ ✅

[worn elk]

what are the boc clone sprites?

I haven't seen the new update and that suggestion made me really curious xd

[keen zodiac]

when it does the where's waldo attack

[worn elk]

oh I mean what do they look like

[keen zodiac]

idk i don't think the wiki has them yet

pretty sure you could find them if you scoured github long enough but who wants to do that

[worn elk]

ok that is horrifying

[obsidian nova]

Nah it's definitely Rock/Ghost

[obsidian nova]

Yeah I can see why there was a suggestion to change them in the "blood/gore off" mode
(And the death animation too of course )

[oblique birch]

didn't the right most one got removed

because it was too confusing

[remote dune]

well i got this from the CalamityModPublic repo

so i guess not

wait i just checked. yeah i think the rightmost one is removed

[oblique birch]

thought so

[rancid lotus]

I think the Ichor eye and eyeless heart sprites need a small amount of work.

[obsidian nova]

With what?

[vestal crater]

i really hope this suggestion gets through

ough i made it too long

frick

ok it should be short enuf

now

[gilded citrus]

I agree with this

[grave zinc]

@umbral gazelle - Your suggestion has received an updated status!

[Make player placed hostile turret drop its item instead of mysterious circuitry and dubious plating]

It has been voted upon, and the devs decided it would be a good idea to implement it. This doesn't guarantee implementation, as plans may change/alternate plans may be made, but it does highly improve chances!
You can check out your suggestion again here: #suggestions-voting message

@summer egret - Your suggestion has received an updated status!

[Release Sunskate plushies PLEASE]

It has been reviewed by the devs, and for one reason or another they decided it would be best not to implement it.
You can check out your suggestion again here: #suggestions-voting message

@novel belfry - Your suggestion has received an updated status!

[Cut down on the amount of different weapon recipes that share a weapon material]

It has been voted upon, and the devs decided it would be a good idea to implement it. This doesn't guarantee implementation, as plans may change/alternate plans may be made, but it does highly improve chances!
You can check out your suggestion again here: #suggestions-voting message

@scarlet musk - Your suggestion has received an updated status!

[Remove the constant dripping honey effect on your player from having Radiance equipped]

It has been voted upon, and the devs decided it would be a good idea to implement it. This doesn't guarantee implementation, as plans may change/alternate plans may be made, but it does highly improve chances!
You can check out your suggestion again here: #suggestions-voting message

@polar bison - Your suggestion has received an updated status!

[Allow more items to use Alternative Recipe Groups]

It has been voted upon, and the devs decided it would be a good idea to implement it. This doesn't guarantee implementation, as plans may change/alternate plans may be made, but it does highly improve chances!
You can check out your suggestion again here: #suggestions-voting message

@near totem - Your suggestion has received an updated status!

[## Add Shroomble Cage]

It has been voted upon, and the devs decided it would be a good idea to implement it. This doesn't guarantee implementation, as plans may change/alternate plans may be made, but it does highly improve chances!
You can check out your suggestion again here: #suggestions-voting message

@lucid marsh - Your suggestion has received an updated status!

[Make NPCs like and dislike calamity biomes]

It has been voted upon, and the devs decided it would be a good idea to implement it. This doesn't guarantee implementation, as plans may change/alternate plans may be made, but it does highly improve chances!
You can check out your suggestion again here: #suggestions-voting message

@indigo yacht - Your suggestion has received an updated status!

[Add some sort of failsafe to prevent the abyss from perpetually draining into the underworld]

It has been voted upon, and the devs decided it would be a good idea to implement it. This doesn't guarantee implementation, as plans may change/alternate plans may be made, but it does highly improve chances!
You can check out your suggestion again here: #suggestions-voting message

[crude geode]

Only 1 suggestion getting rejected is p good, plus it was pretty expected

[plush flame]

brought back for malice 👀

[mystic sandal]

https://tenor.com/view/glorp-glorpshit-mad-gif-12826934952903770254

[half imp]

Rum should only be decreasing minion damage...

what on earth

[vestal crater]

it seemingly didnt for me

i can send a video on it

[half imp]

What sentries did you check it on

It's possible that someone set them to use Minion and MinionShot instead of Sentry and SentryShot

[vestal crater]

i tested it on aquas sceptre and cadaverous carrion

[half imp]

ok I'll investigate that later

[vestal crater]

oh huh

its seemingly only like

homing projectiles

from sentres

[remote dune]

YES‼️

shroomble cage

[vestal crater]

yeah

ok

[tepid crown]

[vestal crater]

only hominh

thats stupi

should i delete my ssuggestion then since it was oversight?

[half imp]

yeah it's more of a bug report

[half imp]

This shouldn't make it count as a minion though

[vestal crater]

it also counts slime puppet staff as a thing it should nerf

the poor like 3 minionless non whip weapons 💔

[half imp]

iirc anything that's actually marked in the code as a minion or minionshot it'll count as a minion

[vestal crater]

should i makea bug report on it?

[tepid crown]

oh ok its in olddukesharkvomit why is it named this it has nothing to do with old duke aside from looks

[half imp]

Yup

[tepid crown]

also why the fuck

these 5 files are fucking identical why dont you just have a way to pick which sprite to use

😭

[vestal crater]

wait is minions that shoot non homing projectiles buffed by rum then

[tepid crown]

no

[royal tapir]

Homing is irrelevant

[tepid crown]

certain things were just labelled incorrectly

[golden sonnet]

It's just sentries that incorrectly set minionshot instead of sentryshot

[vestal crater]

uhh

iti s

actually

blackhawk gets buffed

[tepid crown]

_ _

skelli what kind of projectiles does blackhawk shoot

[vestal crater]

non hominh prokectls

[royal tapir]

This makes sense actually

Naturally bullets do not set MinionShot

[tepid crown]

is rusty beacon pulse not setting sentryshot intentional

dont think the harvest staff minions have it either

[vestal crater]

why the fuck can rusty beacon crit?????

am i going insane

[tepid crown]

o seems like theyre set as minionshot

[half imp]

ages of malpractice exposed all at once

[royal tapir]

This is just inconsistent and incorrect labeling

Rum is technically functioning as intended

[half imp]

Yup

[vocal wedge]

For maximum frog related trauma.

[half imp]

Well

I need to add something for Black hawk line apparently

but other than that it all works right

[tepid crown]

orthocera is called minionshot too

[royal tapir]

I mean there's probably several

Nucleosynthesis' vortex beam sets MinionShot

[tepid crown]

hive pod isnt set as anything it seems

neither is sanctified spark

both the tesla aura and the raindrops of aquas scepter arent set to anything

k thats all the sentries

[royal tapir]

If they're not set to anything then they should be buffed by Rum

[half imp]

still bad though for crossmod and/or future sentry effects

[novel belfry]

critical image victory

[craggy girder]

in prime calamity no item of same class will share any material in their crafting

/hj intentionally

[lucid flare]

these screenshots are pretty mid but did you know that the burning sky's projectiles (kinda????) don't have glowmasks despite being fireballs? the only things making the attacks visible are the projectiles it spawns. idk if this is suggestion worthy so help me out

[keen zodiac]

@kind laurel a rework is already planned

[indigo yacht]

if it's a problem, you can make a suggestion about it

[drowsy plank]

this would be an oversight for #1052323733961977947

[kind laurel]

Dang, haven't really been keeping up with post 2.1 plans save for the big stuff like SSO and Sky

[lucid flare]

i mean it Might be a problem idk if this is intentional or not

[indigo yacht]

if there's an established precedent for using glowmasks then it's not intentional

[severe sparrow]

well that's pretty fair
a lot of things the devs are doing you have to ask to see if they're doing it

[compact ore]

they should add an upgrade to the extracinator called the auric extractinator

[vocal wedge]

Why?

[compact ore]

cause its what calamity needs, a cool upgrade to the beloved extractinator

[vocal wedge]

I don't think it does, and that's not an argument.

[novel belfry]

okay i have a better idea
Cosmilite upgrade to the (Chlorophyte) Extractinator, called the God-Devouring Extractinator

[compact ore]

i like this

[vocal wedge]

Extractinates evil blocks.

[tepid crown]

i have a really unique idea

[novel belfry]

okay but imma be real, extractinator upgrade isn't really needed, there isn't much else you can extractinate

[tepid crown]

its an extractinator upgrade you can make in mid hm that extracts faster and lets you swap between certain version of blocks

called the chlorophyte extractinator

[novel belfry]

ya

[compact ore]

that sounds cool

[novel belfry]

unless the Distortion update adds new extractinateable gear i see little reason to upgrade the chlorophyte extractinator

@compact ore okay so the thing tsuki is describing is actually ingame

[compact ore]

i like the extractinator

[drowsy plank]

honestly a cosmilite extractinator for some kind of distortion silt would be neat, but definitely not necessary for the current version of calamity

[novel belfry]

thats what im saying, this would probably only work in a future calamity that has the distortion

[rancid lotus]

Extractinator of gods?
Devourer of Silt?

[rancid lotus]

What what is there to extractinate?

[novel belfry]

probably to extractinate stuff from, well, gods

or distortion silt, whatever that is called

[mossy pelican]

Wait I love that name

Devourer of silt

[rancid lotus]

Pretty much just Devourer of Cods naming scheme.

[rancid lotus]

You could also do Devourer of Clod (As in the word for dirt-esque substances) but that might be too close to Devourer of Cods in spelling.

[indigo yacht]

everyone in this channel is banned

[indigo yacht]

especially you

[rancid lotus]

https://klipy.com/gifs/snake-metal

[rancid lotus]

Chat, do we think that the Great Sand Shark could do with infected variants that change some of the drops and also add new moves/aspects?

Because currently, nobody really has a reason to fight this guy apart from one material used in only a few items.
Because currently, his moveset is rather simple as of now, something to spice up the moveset would most likely make it a more memorable boss.
Because it could also be more immersive if it changes off of the environment since as of now, it is a bit weird being in a purple corruption biome and seeing this massive yellow sand shark appear.

Do any of you think that this would be considered too high effort/boss rebalancing?

[half imp]

Yeah too high effort

[rancid lotus]

https://klipy.com/gifs/mickey-mouse-sad-3

[half imp]

Would also like

Conflict with existing plans

[rancid lotus]

👀

[viscid marten]

I honestly think that an auric extractinator wouldn't be a bad idea, as I've run into a problem in my current run of calamity - I can't summon a solar eclipse, and they don't happen naturally either. You could make it spit out the ascendant spirit essence ingredients, as well as anything else that might fit. I say auric to prevent the average player from using it instead of farming the events before yharon

Of course, just making it possible to do a solar eclipse without wall of flesh being beaten could also work

[crude geode]

you can't summon a solar eclipse?

what?

[viscid marten]

Skipped wall of flesh in this playthrough

[crude geode]

I mean. if you skip a major boss, you should expect to miss out on some stuff.

[indigo yacht]

how is adding infected variants supposed to fix the issue of the fight being boring anyways

[viscid marten]

Yeah, I guess that's true, I just wasn't expecting to miss out on ascendant spirit essences

[hazy nacelle]

Solar Tablet can now be used if it is Hardmode, a mechanical boss has been defeated, or Plantera has been defeated.
from 2.1 patch notes

[rancid lotus]

New mechanics and attacks for the variants?

[viscid marten]

Must've missed that, thanks!

[novel belfry]

i mean, making the guy better at first anyhow would help

whether itd be turning him into a super basilisk or just making him a much better sandshark to begin with

[indigo yacht]

the main fight is still the exact same

that doesn't solve the problem lol

just adds new indirectly related content

[lucid marsh]

The great Sand shark could do with being removed

That stage of the game is already a boss rush

Move GSS earlier in progression or take it out of the game

[glass arch]

conflicts with plans

[craggy girder]

no no let me remove it from the game ill manually do it myself

airhopping piece of shit

[crude geode]

He just has sandstorm in a bottle equipped

[craggy girder]

he has like eighteen fucking doublejumps

[crude geode]

He just has 18 sandstorm in a bottles equipped

[tawdry trout]

Not my boy the GSS🥀

[hollow shell]

GSS was added based on a suggestion here (in the earlier, more lawless days of suggestions)
Not because it was solving any problems or contributing something game-design related in any way whatsoever,
but just because.. it'd be cool.

It was a massive Specific Item Suggestion. a Specific Miniboss Suggestion.

[north oracle]

bring back specific miniboss suggestions ✊

[drowsy plank]

it is the opposite of cool

[hollow shell]

It was a very early-2018 Calamity idea of cool

More content! A new fight!
More things!

[north oracle]

the more bosses the better mod

[oblique birch]

Damn I remembered the time when GSS was not in the game

[north oracle]

i would not hav ebeen on discord then

[hollow shell]

tbh I don't even know how the suggestion became dev plans
It was chaos back then

I remember it was made by the Garchomp PFP guy who was a regular at least

("ARandomDude"?)

(no, close
"ThatGuy")

[lucid marsh]

Huh. Never knew that but in hindsight I can totally see it

I would be fine if GSS was an inconsequential thing that just shows up randomly during sandstorms and drops random desert loot

Replaced the suggestion with a better one

[keen zodiac]

there's already rework plans

for sso part 2

[lucid marsh]

Oh

[obsidian nova]

Devourer of Sods

[obsidian nova]

Wait, that "early"?

[warm coral]

devourer of cods

[earnest raptor]

Stygian Weaver needs to return

[keen zodiac]

@lucid marsh good suggestion but all the wulfrum blocks were sprited by heart
and she has since left the team so uhhhh
not sure how that's gonna work

[oblique birch]

That's anodized only

iirc the normal Wulfrum furnitures are sprited by Tringle

But like be honest the normal Wulfrum Furniture will get resprited

They are dated

The addition of door can wait until that day come

[fossil finch]

why would it get resprited for

[oblique birch]

just feel like they're stuff that would be on the future resprite list

if that ever happens

[fossil finch]

i think theyre fine and any effort better off going to not respriting everything forever

[oblique birch]

I'm totally fine with the currents

[whole tundra]

My shortest suggestion so far I think

[vocal wedge]

Shattered Community?

[tepid crown]

doesnt change it it just gives you passive gen and gen on hit

still fundamentaly just a damage up for being near enemies

[whole tundra]

No that just adds in the rage bar in non-cal difficulties and changes how it regenerates a slight amount

The effective use still remains the same

I should probably specify that in the suggestion though

[oblique birch]

probably wouldn't be effective to add something that has to do with the current iteration of Rage

with Adrenaline is fine tho

[earnest raptor]

maybe occult skull crown could be changed to modify rippers

[worthy lintel]

im not sure if we'll ever see more items centered around rippers given the passive resent some devs hold against them for being a balance nightmare

[vocal wedge]

Obviously Vergil's Concentration guage will be added in 3874.

[obsidian nova]

Solution: get rid of the rippers /hj

[craggy girder]

he kinda already does this tmk

as a draedon fan, he makes comment on you throughout the codebreaker, then when you see him he's very to the point

"ive waited for a long time for this"
"youre gonna face my machines"
insert more Awesome Words

[urban berry]

Maybe a final buff after beating Yharim for boss rush or smthn?

[vocal wedge]

I think it's a bit early to think about that.

[worthy lintel]

like 5 years too early

[indigo yacht]

yharim in 3037

[mossy pelican]

Imma be real, I still don’t know how to choose a different mech than ares to start with

[vocal wedge]

You press the button for them. Hope this helps.

[gilded citrus]

You press the button that spawns the other mechs

[craggy girder]

you can just click any mech other than the Ares Mech

[mossy pelican]

I swear I only saw the one for ares last time I fought the exos

I will investigate later

[tepid crown]

@pallid coral a chestpiece for silva already exists

its called silva armor

[pallid coral]

oh my god i thought it was a headpiece lmaoooo ty

[keen zodiac]

@wild pecan what

[oblique birch]

this is just a buff sugg for #1178515062030348308

[lucid marsh]

@wild pecan make a gills potion and use the aquatic emblem

They stack

[hollow shell]

(Continuing my streak of not posting suggestions myself despite having things to suggest, because weird things might happen.)

The new Bloom Stone rework, is cool. However, its functional clarity, is poor.

The Healing Potion extension duration could easily be shown with a Cooldown Rack object, as many recent reworks have been doing. Right now you're not shown how long your potions are getting extended over, nor how long you have left before you stop getting healed.
And the post-grapple-flower healing-speed buff really should be an actual Buff, to improve feedback and show you how long it lasts. (The aforementioned Cooldown Rack addition will indirectly help with this too, cuz you could see with your eyes how it's going faster.)

If anybody would like to make a suggestion to this effect, feel free

I also had something else I could have suggested, which I remembered feeling like I could stretch to get away with making a Bug Report about it instead. But I forgot what it was. I'll let you know if it comes to me.

[crude geode]

Like that

[keen zodiac]

a weird amount of things this update aren't in the cooldown rack, like claret cannon

[crude geode]

I didn’t feel like rewriting the second half

[hollow shell]

Thank you Jane Bast user 👍

Preciate it

[crude geode]

no problem

[hollow shell]

RIGHT
I remember now

The Interstellar Stomper's superspeed slam ability
feels extremely awkward to use
Because it can only be activated if you are falling, as in you have downward velocity

If you press the usage button while you're in the air but moving even a little bit upward (even if you're decelerating!),
or even if you're already pressing the usage key before you start falling,
it won't activate at all. Your input gets eaten.

Tis unintuitive.
The tooltip even says "Pressing [key] while midair", not "while falling"

What players are going to be expecting is that you can activate the ability at any time in the air, and I don't see why it's not like that already

[tiny minnow]

I wish it had uncapped max size purely for the coolness of a massive shockwave at the bottom of a Hellevator.

[oblique birch]

the new activation for Interstellar Stomper is very awkward ye

I'd say even more than the old one

[indigo yacht]

maybe the slam should just be removed because it doesn't seem like they can get it to work in a way that's actually useful in combat

the accessory is already good without it

[tepid crown]

i mean terraria has a vertical ram acc

they just made it instant

interstellar stompers is trying too hard to mimic the ror2 item its based on it completely forgets that porting the functionality 1:1 wont work well at all

[indigo yacht]

the ror2 red item that SUCKS

@fickle folio

[humble scarab]

nah

its good when you use it properly

[tepid crown]

ok but have you considered

[indigo yacht]

no

[tepid crown]

its really funny to jump up and then come back down and kill everything

wtf i didnt even say anything and u said no

[indigo yacht]

he can't talk in this server bc hes a chud but he said "fuck you bitch head stompers are S tier"

[indigo yacht]

im just like that

[glass arch]

stompers are one of the best red items dont be like that

[oblique birch]

that Red is one of the game winning items idk what you talking about

[tepid crown]

ror2

[oblique birch]

yes

that's what I said tupid

[tepid crown]

o i thought u meant u didnt know wat we were talking about

[mossy pelican]

I dont think boss checklist is owned by calamity

[half imp]

Correct

This isn't our problem

[mossy pelican]

[jade crane]

Is there a way to change it when calamity is installed?

[half imp]

Probably but it's not our problem

[indigo yacht]

it would be a cool idea but unfortunately i think this isn't a valid suggestion

@mint whale please read the suggestions document in pins/channel description

[mint whale]

Am right now. Is it too intensive or falls under the respite rule?

Or wait, is it the future content?

[indigo yacht]

it's more of a... specific rework suggestion

[humble scarab]

you cant tell the devs how smth should be done

[indigo yacht]

the intent of suggestions are to solve problems usually

[humble scarab]

but you can suggest stuff

[indigo yacht]

so like, if you could find a problem that would be solved by adding your idea then you could make a suggestion about that

[mint whale]

Ah, gotcha. Best I can put in that matter is just making it look cooler; don't think that's enough.

[indigo yacht]

probably not unfortunately

[half imp]

If the suggestion was "improve yharon background" it'd be fine

And then you can suggest a potential background

but either way we already have plans to improve it

[indigo yacht]

this is usually how you can communicate ideas without making an invalid suggestion, where you focus on the problem but can also add a couple lines about what you think would work as solutions

for example the newest suggestion in voting

most of it is dedicated to explaining the problem and then there's one line at the end with a couple ideas

[mint whale]

Got it. I think you guys already have some ideas for this so I'll just let you carry on with that. Look forward to seeing what you come up with!

[indigo yacht]

ok question how the hell did exo mechs cutscene get to voting

i thought for certain it was invalid

did the devs just want to experiment

[crude geode]

Probably just no one noticed

It’s happened before, it’ll happen again

[plush flame]

#suggestions-posting message
#1178515062030348308 and follow the guidelines

[dense locust]

monsoon is not to blame for a 30 second dog

theres something else at play

[north oracle]

@kind dune ^
both messages above

[tepid crown]

did monsoon get fucked by global before or nah?

[north oracle]

it did go from global to static

it also lost point blank and got a 4 damage buff

[tepid crown]

ya thas why im asking,,, dummy,,,,,

because a 4 damage change obviously wouldnt do kill dog in 4 secs

[north oracle]

💥

[frail fox]

This is secretly grape beer’s fault clearly

[royal tapir]

Cosmic bit flip that adds a 0 to its base damage

[dense locust]

even if by 30 seconds they mean like 38 seconds I would still be incredibly confused as to what could've possible occurred to get that number
even with like super speedkill build the best time last update was like somewhere in the 40s iirc

[royal tapir]

It's like genuinely impossible to kill DoG in 30 seconds because of the time it takes to transition to phase 2 and the death animation

[half imp]

yeah

[dense locust]

I've gotten like a 15 second p2 start before sub 30 might be barely possible with a metric fuckload of optimization

[kind dune]

it was an exaggeration, i will post it in the currect locations with actual numbers and screenshots this time

[rancid lotus]

Is a mterial not having enough items to craft a proper reason for adding an item or does that not qualify as a need for an item?

[dense locust]

what item are you refering to

[rancid lotus]

Just in general.

[tepid crown]

you can suggest to add it to items that already have recipes

but to suggest an item for it is too far

and to suggest an existing item to have a recipe with the material would be in specific territory

at that point your suggestion would more be justifying why the item needs a recipe, and so including the material would make it too specific

[rancid lotus]

What about saying something like “Dark Plasma needs to have some kind of Mage Weapon as there's none you can craft with it and there's not many mage weapons at that stage of progression.”

[dense locust]

arn't there litterally like 3

ok there are but 2 of them are post polter

[rancid lotus]

I know there's so many mage weapons at that stage, even from Void, that's just an example.

[dense locust]

already been suggested

[north oracle]

@torn plinth ^

[hollow shell]

(Committing ultimate faux paus: Suggesting about a boss while currently struggling to it.

Plaguebringer Goliath's projectiles & spawns do have red outlines, but.. they're really dark, and thin, and blurry, and faint.
In the heat of the moment, they do not help these dark-green objects stick out against the Jungle's natural dark-green background very much at all.
This is on top of the fact that PBG applies a green-tinted screen filter, making everything look even more uniform.

These are aggressively homing projectiles that deal a lot of damage on hit, so keeping track of their exact positions is quite important.

The outlines are already there, they just need to be tweaked. Thicker, significantly brighter red, maybe a glowmask or Additive layering or something.)

(There's actually a lot of problems with PBG's fight but this is the most easily actionable right now. Presumably just changing a few numbers in the code that's already there.)

[crude geode]

Can’t believe Rover Suggestions is crashout suggesting smh my head /j

[worthy lintel]

the plaguebringer crashout

(kinda deserved tbh its really weird how the missiles are a bigger threat than goliath herself)

[hollow shell]

Goliath herself is a threat but for the wrong reasons imo

Her diagonal dashes are cool in concept, for making you change up the direction you evade to based on what she's doing; she's covering your escape paths.
But, in execution.. You have no idea which dash direction she's going to do. She just suddenly starts zooping to a position near you, and there's zero indication where or when she's going to stop. And when she does reach her intended position, she instantly dashes, not a single frame of delay.

ex: If PBG is below you and to your left, and she wants to dash from left-to-right, and you see her quickly start rising..
she could stop to your lower-left corner, or pass right through and stop at your middle-left, or pass right through that too and stop at your top-left corner.
And if you guess wrong, you're shit out of luck, because by the time you learn which decision she's made, she's already dashing, and is, in fact, colliding with you.

(I've beaten PBG now so I get to say this without being cringe )

[half imp]

pbg stuff is so evil

[hollow shell]

((also a new item like Sirenproof Earmuffs / Voodoo Demon Voodoo Doll, except it prevents you from dealing damage to the Cultists at the Dungeon entrance, would be epic.
I have vague memories of such an item but I'm not seeing it.
I made my big arena at the Dungeon and now I can't use it cuz stray shots keep summoning Lunatic Cultist ))

[half imp]

just place a block where the sigil spawns

so no more cultists

[hollow shell]

That's jank :(
But ok

[oblique birch]

@gloomy charm #1178515062030348308

[keen zodiac]

@wild pecan no joke suggestions

[rancid lotus]

Repositioning Problem? Hollow Knight Reference?

[hollow shell]

I know HK very well and I actually don't get that joke?

[rancid lotus]

A guy called “Holland” has made a series of videos explaining a problem he has with Hollow Knight where bosses have little-to-no indication of when they're going to jump from one side of the arena to the other, nor do they say where they're going to.

We could probably use a similar solution to what he gives which is grant telegraphing to when it dashses and where it's dashing to.

[hollow shell]

(Huh.
I'm actually trying to think of cases where that's an issue.

The only thing I can think that's comparable is Pure Vessel, if you spend too much time above them, then they'll just do a normal jump (not even a slam) right into your ass.
But Pure Vessel is otherwise very well-telegraphed albeit fast. The jump thing feels more like an anti-cheese.)

[rancid lotus]

I think Hornet and Broken Vessel/Lost Kin are main examples of bad telegraphing.

[hollow shell]

And yeah I was thinking similar
Like a red target, similar to Destroyer or Thanatos

It doesn't need to last a long time, it doesn't need to trivialize the attack. There just needs to be something.

[rancid lotus]

Maybe just do what Yharon does where there's an audible and visible que (Except unique sounds because Yharon only has one sound for everything) and then it can tell you which of the 3 angles PBG chooses.

[hollow shell]

Ok actually yeah I can recall cases of "wtf was that jump" with Broken Vessel / Lost Kin. True.

[hollow shell]

Perhaps.
Differently pitched sounds indicating angle.

[indigo yacht]

don't forget crystal guardian and its enraged form

i think nosk also struggles a lil

[rancid lotus]

Nosk has at least some telegraph.

Brooding Mawlek also has a bit of a Repositioning issue.

[hollow shell]

Nah nah Brooding Mawlek is fine. It's predictable and reactable (and always hops back to its previous position afterward)

Nosk as well has a predictable cycle

Crystal Guardian I agree with though.

anyway point is with PBG,

s'not necessarily that you don't know that a dash is coming at all and you get jumpscared by it, though that can happen (if PBG happens to be right where she wants to be at the end of her previous attack)

It really is the direction being unpredictable, after you realize that PBG trying to start a dash attack
imo

((while you're also running from a bunch of aggressive homing projectiles))

[severe sparrow]

failed champion also has very little differences in telegraphs between certain attacks

[urban berry]

Oh my god can people read the suggestions rules.

[vocal wedge]

People in this server don't even read.

[obsidian nova]

No
insert the "I can't read I'm a calamity fan" gif

[vocal wedge]

Perhaps not.

[obsidian nova]

You don't have it?

[oblique birch]

is this good

[half imp]

yes

[oblique birch]

alright I'll put it on

[golden sonnet]

@umbral gazelle purification powder cleansing hallow is a 1.4.5 thing

[umbral gazelle]

ah

[golden sonnet]

Axe of purity just uses purification powders projectile, so when tmod updates to 1.4.5 it will just auto do this

assuming it still exists in it's current state

[umbral gazelle]

i see

[mossy pelican]

Are there plans to like, change the way the sunken sea interacts with infection and purification?

[vocal wedge]

What is more purifying than the flames of disaster?

[golden sonnet]

I do not believe so

[mossy pelican]

So I could suggest something to make it so there’s some way to preserve it from the hardmode v?

Bc purification turns it to normal desert just flooded and I think the infections mess with it’s spawns too

[golden sonnet]

It's already fully unaffected, unsure what you mean

[mossy pelican]

Oh like, the giant clam n shi can still spawn if it’s corrupted?

[golden sonnet]

it can't be corrupted

[mossy pelican]

Bc somehow someway the corruption was infecting mine

Maybe it was some stray stone or smth that gen’d weird

[half imp]

Not true

Right now I know clentaminator turns it to normal sabd

[drowsy plank]

clentaminator turns the sunken sea into normal desert?

[mossy pelican]

Yes

I said that

[drowsy plank]

what were they cooking

[half imp]

idk

Definitely not meant to be happening

[golden sonnet]

I don't think it's affected by natural spread at all, even if clentaminators work on it

[drowsy plank]

are we gonna get a sunken sea solution wtf lmfao

[mossy pelican]

At least have a solution if it can get purified

[golden sonnet]

unless that was changed in brainstorm

[half imp]

It probably was for clentaminator to work

I don't think clentaminator worked pre 2.1

It also is 99% chance not an intentional change or known by the team

[golden sonnet]

why would it work, it's likea granite or marble biome

[drowsy plank]

i feel like
that should be reverted

yeah

[golden sonnet]

it should 100% be immune like sulphur sea

[drowsy plank]

unless yall are gonna add corrupted variants of every sunken sea tile

[mossy pelican]

The V only grazed the edge so idk how deep it can get in my experience

[half imp]

I have a feeling it was caused for a similar reason to abyss walls breaking

[golden sonnet]

and hallow and crimson....

[drowsy plank]

i figured that was implied but yeah

[half imp]

Where someone like

just messed with the tiles properties and names

[mossy pelican]

I blame fabsol

[half imp]

this is almost 100% not a fabsol change

[keen zodiac]

speaking of weird shit why was sulphurous sand walls producing water removed

[golden sonnet]

that was done a long time ago, but I agree

idk why it was removed

[half imp]

they don't?

I mean they also no longer fill the whole sulphur sea so whatever

it would be able to drain anyway

[golden sonnet]

just abyss walls do, so any mining in the abyss jsut makes your sulph sea level drop a ton

as it settles

[half imp]

Not anymore

I fixed that

[mossy pelican]

Mining the voidstone beneath the abyss from below is very dangerous, but very doable

[half imp]

Mining abyss tiles instantly replaces the block with water

[mossy pelican]

It causes the pressure thing

[half imp]

This would happen even if sulphur walls made water bc we removed sulphur walls from the sulphur sea main water body iirc

[mossy pelican]

Bc ur not in water bc you’re coming from beneath

[keen zodiac]

for some reason mining scoria in layer 2 specifically doesn't do that

[half imp]

But maybe I'm crazy

[half imp]

huh

oh

It's because layer 2 is generated with safe walls rn

Instead of unsafe

[keen zodiac]

is that why barely anything spawns

[half imp]

yup

fixed for 2.1.2+ worlds

And anything pre 2.1 works fine

[oblique birch]

can't wait for 2.1.2

[half imp]

same

I'm tired of seeing people beat malice dog by using cinnamon roll

[oblique birch]

haha

[quaint carbon]

Are we gonna old yeller the summoner bug in 2.1.2

[mossy pelican]

Not my dreadmines

[drowsy plank]

i assume most major bugs will get exploded in 2.1.2 lmao

kind of the point of a hotfix lol

[quaint carbon]

Tell that to Dead By Daylight…

[half imp]

Yea

The reason it's taken so long is bc we were working on a bug causing a crash when using certain vanity with certain transformation items

[quaint carbon]

While you’re at it can you please fix bugs for wotm and wotg and infernum and fargo’s and

[keen zodiac]

💥

[royal tapir]

Crazy ass bug

[drowsy plank]

fix all the bugs for vanilla terraria as well

[oblique birch]

wtf 😭

[half imp]

okay removed queen bee

[quaint carbon]

Funnily enough, a Queen Bee bug resulted in the most appalling moment of my entire Terraria career

This was an attempted speedrun

[mossy pelican]

Okay so in fargos the abominationn has a chance to drop a summon that summons duke fishron as a minion, I think theres a bug where you can get queen bee to fight other bosses. This is an opportune moment to include a secret item

[craggy girder]

@green cove read suggestions doc + read top of page

[half imp]

Pretty sure abyss walls are breakable

Just like any natural walls you need to start from the outside

[umbral gazelle]

i dont get about that part though

[hazy nacelle]

add a mod to get around that limitation

[umbral gazelle]

having to dig and hammer all the way down just to make some room in cavern is painful

[half imp]

Yeah but that's literally just

how terraria walls work

[gilded citrus]

Yeah thats a terraria issue

[tiny minnow]

And a skill issue

[plain glacier]

Hey guys, just killed every boss before wall of flash and can't find meteorit, it's a bug?

[drowsy plank]

did a meteorite fall

[plain glacier]

didn't see message.. but isn't it falling after eater of world?

[tiny minnow]

Wrong channel also

[plain glacier]

oh, sorry

[tiny minnow]

But yeah, the normal meteorite is still post-EoW

[drowsy plank]

oh true lmao this should be in #help-advice-read-pins but also if you didnt see a message it just didn't fall yet. maybe kill evil boss again idfk

[tiny minnow]

Try corruption chasms or on top of living trees or on a planetoid

[drowsy plank]

i don't think it's guaranteed just very very likely to be the day after you kill evil boss

[glass arch]

@calm dove no future content suggestions

[pure verge]

also cal is probably just gonna revert the change anyways

[glass arch]

hence the future content part

[pure verge]

yep

[north oracle]

this is a good catch
however yes, future content

[golden sonnet]

It was already mentioned in dev when the update came out

[compact ore]

auric extractinator

[fleet grotto]

what is the false epilogue

[keen zodiac]

vcmm post moonlord interlude

[craggy girder]

can i use this suggestion posting area to suggest an addition to Suggestion Bot

bc this is vehement

[oblique birch]

I love being alone in #suggestions-posting

[craggy girder]

the suggestion (if i can) will be "Have Suggestion Bot ping people in #suggestions-discussion when their suggestion gains a corrective reaction."

the moderators already do this, and the people can also do this, but being able to directly ping them when their suggestions too short or when its just Wrong would spare them at least a little time

[glass arch]

no

[craggy girder]

Darn.

where would that go

[glass arch]

dm nycro or something

[craggy girder]

that is Terrifying

i will just let it Rot Here and hope Nycro sees it

[glass arch]

but most certainly dont put non-game stuff into suggposting thats one of the direct rules

[craggy girder]

Ah. i appear to have not read the Document

[drowsy plank]

technically it would go in modmail but also i think this might not be a bad idea if it also pings the dev bc the number of times CIT would flag something and just

not explain it

is insane

[north oracle]

it wouldnt help with the number of invalid suggs tbf

[drowsy plank]

no it wouldnt lmao

[north oracle]

Can we just start removing cit's exclams unless he explains them

[drowsy plank]

but it is annoying to have to chase CIT down when the enigmatic unexplained ❗ appears lmfao

prolly

[glass arch]

i think thats a good idea

[drowsy plank]

we still gotta ping tho

[craggy girder]

"@[poster], a moderator (@[flagger]) has flagged your suggestion as invalid. Their reasoning will follow shortly."
/
"@[poster], your suggestion does not fit the required [spacing/text limit]. Once corrected, the flag will be removed."

maybe thatll work .

[glass arch]

reasoning will follow shortly doesnt work out

[north oracle]

Their reasoning won't follow shortly when its CIT 😭

Having a ping for length is actually a good idea tho

[craggy girder]

Their Reasoning should follow shortly. and people will just say whats wrong

[glass arch]

generic ping for formatting and generic ping for exclam

[craggy girder]

i still want the pfp of this correctional bot to be Cataclysm solely because of Nightmare

[drowsy plank]

it would just be the same bot lmfao

[craggy girder]

"Listen here User. You have made your last fucking mistake. I am tired of you not using 14 typefont."

it would be but like its Funny

[north oracle]

The length/formatting one is something that happens pretty often and people don't know why so thats a good plan
The "reasoning will follow shortly" is the same as people pinging them manually to say why its invalid tho

[craggy girder]

yah but now a Bot does it instead of John Water

they'll be like "oh shoot that was automated okay" vs "hey man SiS

[north oracle]

That doesnt matter?

[craggy girder]

it'll do the same thing yes

still, Automation

[glass arch]

"hey you there you fucked up formatting either you forgot a title or your sugg is too long (>1,000 characters)" and "hey you there you either broke a suggestion rule or your sugg has otherwise been determined to be invalid"

for example

[craggy girder]

yeah basically

[north oracle]

Its not automated we still have to exclam it then tell them what's wrong

[glass arch]

not a great idea

doesnt fix the issue of the dev still has to say why

[craggy girder]

in the future we'll have AI to do that

[north oracle]

God no

[craggy girder]

i will Physically get Draedon to do it

[keen zodiac]

👎

[glass arch]

god no

[craggy girder]

(for Legal Reasons, i do not Support Generative AI)

((it'd just be Really Really funny to have someone suggest an injection script))

[north oracle]

The automation of actually telling someone about the formatting/length issue is a good idea, that tends to be a problrm

[craggy girder]

(((in the morbid way)))

yah

[glass arch]

standard procedure is to exclam and then ping to say why but as is evidenced by the enigmatic citclaims that can still be flat ignored

[craggy girder]

what standards, we dont use those here

[glass arch]

its standard procedure in the sense that

if you're exclaiming a suggestion you SHOULD ping to explain why

[craggy girder]

exclaiming a suggestion just because its kinda written badly

[glass arch]

not what we're talking about really

[crude geode]

^^^

[earnest raptor]

if that can't happen, then there should be several categories of reactions for bot

each for big "don't" in the doc

[oblique birch]

the drop chance got reduced as you progress is crazy

[novel bobcat]

yeah im not entirely sure what thats about, in turmoil bc i cant get the fuel rod to make the nucleogenesis lmao

[earnest raptor]

maybe because there is more cragmaws????

question mark???

like OOA has reduced chance on Ogre's weapons on t3 because Ogre spawns like 5 times instead of 1-2

[hazy nacelle]

cragmaw spawns more but still quite rarely compared to nuclear terror

before t3 you could go multiple acid rains without seeing one, t3 you get maybe one cragmaw and rarely a mauler

[earnest raptor]

me when sulphurous sea's floor is bottomless pit

[hazy nacelle]

I say that having built a spawning floor underwater

[lucid marsh]

Is my suggestion good

[hollow shell]

You could really use more reasoning than "it'd be more interesting"

Explain how and why

[lucid marsh]

Uh ok

[lucid marsh]

Changed it btw

[indigo yacht]

acid rain is the worst

[mossy pelican]

Just do tier 2 acid rain

Bc the star tainted generator isnt terrible anyways

[indigo yacht]

genius

you're having an issue? just dont

[golden sonnet]

The drop rate is reduced because they can be more common on higher tiers, but even then it's reduced way too much

It should be like 50% at worst

Like players should be getting upgrades when available to make themselves stronger yes, but punishing them for not having perfect game knowledge is silly

[oblique birch]

It should not be reduced given its weird behaviours

I honestly don't see any harm in keeping it 100% for tier 3 the enemy is still like so rare

Or at least uncommon enough already

And since the player have already progressed to post Polter farming components for Nucleo should take faster, not longer time

[craggy girder]

hope this isnt too specific

the bobbers seem really really neat, but they just arent as fast as "put hook in water, click when water"

(feral and sunken are fine though i think. feral is more damage focused/much faster speed, and sunken i think exists)

((also, no calculations were done, it might be actively more loot to use no bobber but Whatever Man i wanna actually use these things))

oh right i also wanted to suggest that Abyss Gravel/Voidstone generate water underneath it since Planty Mush/Scoria mining can lower Sulph Sea levels by like. 10 tiles

[half imp]

this is fixed already

in 2.1

mining those instantly places water

the issue is 2.1 / 2.1.1 abyss layer 2 places safe walls instead of unsafe so this doesn't apply

2.1.2 fixes that

[craggy girder]

ahh i see

is my bobber suggestion Okay

[half imp]

its fine but probably not my preferred way to buff them

i do need to do more thoruough testing on how good they are

[craggy girder]

as a person who uses autofish with a realistic autopull delay, they feel Lackluster

i do like Acrobatic Bobber though

its very funny

not very good but certainly funny

[half imp]

i think most of them need shorter times to hook

[craggy girder]

yeah thatd probably do it

[half imp]

and maybe double rewards on acrobatic and volcanic

[craggy girder]

alternatively, cant you have them have their minigames disableable

for people who like statmaxxing (for some reason)

[half imp]

i'm pretty sure that the bobbers currently are way faster when in lava though

[half imp]

i mean yes but i won't because that's the point of the accessory

[craggy girder]

i personally have not used the ones for lava since i didnt need to do that

true

equipping community but disabling all but the regen cause i only need teh regen

[rancid lotus]

Should the Blessed Pheonix Egg make the arena spawn with you at the bottom left similar to how the Eye of Desolation now does?

[half imp]

Eye of desolation puts you at the bottom middle though?

[rancid lotus]

Yeah but the Yharon Arena is way bigger, you can't see the edges, so it'd be easier to know what's happening if you start at the bottom left.

Only problem I could see is that Yharon might become harder because people start with less space, but you could fix that by giving people a 5 second grace period and/or having Yharon spawn from the left.

[indigo yacht]

yeah but like why

i don't see how spawning in the bottom left helps

[half imp]

ok but then why did you use desolation as an example

because desolation just doesn't do that

[rancid lotus]

I lowk forgot 🤷‍♂️

[grave zinc]

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[quaint carbon]

https://tenor.com/view/allmight-bnha-mha-meme-fist-up-gif-13588517052470008833

[dense locust]

forgot this was this batch ngl

[glass arch]

i thought all of this was last batch lol

[novel belfry]

i can only hope

[lucid marsh]

Nice

[grave zinc]

@lucid marsh - Your suggestion has received an updated status!

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[novel belfry]

m

[craggy girder]

can neither be yes nor no

[tardy geyser]

might be used in feller instead

[quaint carbon]

Didn’t realize they’d be voting on it already

Eager to see where mine goes

[lucid marsh]

Huh

Weird

[true coral]

Guys, why can't I install Calamity 2.1.2, only 2.1.1? I've reinstalled it and done everything possible. I asked many of my friends, and they have the same issue. However, when I enter the game, it asks me to update to 2.1.2.

[vocal wedge]

You're in the wrong channel.

[mossy pelican]

I think a guaranteed way to get blood orbs/bloody tear/blood moon would be preferred

Could do something like desert scourge or giant clam being defeated boosts the odds

Or have amidias sell a bloody tear if in corruption/crimson

[golden sonnet]

You can already guarantee it with a graveyard

[indigo yacht]

takes ages though unless they very recently buffed it

[golden sonnet]

Also pretty sure it's guaranteed the night after eye as well, but I could be mistaken on fhat

[mossy pelican]

Nah

I never get blood moon unless I go after it

Early game that is

[indigo yacht]

in my 2.1 playthrough it took a while before we got a blood moon

[mossy pelican]

Only reason I got a blood moon in my current run is bc I bought a bloody tear from abominationn from Fargos

[worthy lintel]

you will get fucked by rng and you will enjoy it

do you not know qol is the spawn of the devil

byea graveyards guarantee blood orbs and it typically doesnt take too long to gather enough for one bloody tear

[mossy pelican]

lowkey if calamity added a recipe for a demon/crimson altar, that'd be peak

[eternal escarp]

vanilla already has a way to get the altars in 1.4.5 so myeah

[plush flame]

cosmetic altars

[oblique birch]

ye I don't think? that one functions as a normal Altar it's just a decoration

[plush flame]

eoc drops a real altar once every 70 minutes if no altars exist

[foggy shard]

^

[plush flame]

which is fucking stupid

[golden sonnet]

You can just reload the world

[plush flame]

#suggestions-posting message neither of these are anywhere near rare so i don't see a reason for it

[gilded citrus]

What

[oblique birch]

ok what the fuck

that's so stupid why

😭

why is it like that

[golden sonnet]

That's just how often the check is, the check also happens on world load so that's your best bet

[half imp]

that's so funny

[plush flame]

and by 70 minutes i mean its world size dependent

35 minutes on a small and 53 minutes and 18 seconds on a medium

[gilded citrus]

Misread that and thought it meant 18 seconds for medium

[plush flame]

i could see that happening

relogic spaghetti code is a weird little critter

[gilded citrus]

Eoc mass puking out alters

[plush flame]

i forget did they fix unplugging the audio device instantly killing the game

[obsidian nova]

Yeah, I'm pretty sure axe of purity (and maybe infernal cutter) are getting axed (get it )

[golden sonnet]

Probably not considering fps is still sound dependent for certain farms

The sound engine gotta be something crazy

[half imp]

Yes

Iirc

[plush flame]

big if true

[obsidian nova]

Oh hey there

[gilded citrus]

Yoo another siffrin pfp

[boreal lichen]

😨

They are gathering...

[hazy nacelle]

it's not an infinite altar hack because you need to actually have absolutely no altars in the entire world for it to drop

[drowsy plank]

i guess this isn't entirely against the rules but this suggestion sucks

those are not very rare items idk why they need to be craftable

[hazy nacelle]

saves what, 5 minutes until you get the actual chum caster drop?

and chum buckets are just bad for any normal use (only auto fisher makes worth anything)

[obsidian nova]

Be not afraid
Play ISAT

[muted mortar]

is the grandad supposed to knockback DoG or is it a bug?

[dense locust]

it is supposed to after killing exos and scal

[half imp]

If exos and scal are dead yeah

[muted mortar]

ahh i see, i only tried it after beating those 2

thank u guys

[humble scarab]

thats true, i tested it myself

but now you just lose audio entirely

[dense locust]

only boss that I think genunenely needs it is cv dark energies
because lfmao

[craggy girder]

Whaaat. thats funny as hell hold on

[keen zodiac]

@tepid agate almost definitely planned already

[tepid agate]

oh! ggotcha, didnt think about tat lol-

[whole tundra]

I'm pretty sure the lines have already been made actually but not implemented

[rose tree]

yo guys

A little suggestion here what u think. I think Calamity should boost up boss health when multiplayer

[vocal wedge]

Terraria does that.

[rose tree]

Yea I know but it is not enough

I have hard time beating duke fishron alone (I am an melee so all attacks are focused on me, either in MP or SP). My friend is ranged but he is bad and he deals like 800dps.

Terraria boost by 50% per player so its 150%. I also boosted +25% by calamity config settings. So now it is 187,5%. And we killed him, barely but killed. Alone I tried 5 times on normal settings 100% HP and didn't make it. I think it should be boosted by that additional 25% on multiplayer on default. That's my opinion 😄 We play on death mode

[drowsy plank]

calamity used to do that and removed it because they were excessive

actually maybe cal backscaled it

idk

[drowsy plank]

turn up HP config

or well u already did that but

wait i dont know what you're asking or why

what is the reasoning for why the HP should be increased more

[rose tree]

I just suggest that maybe Calamity should increase HP more for MP so it is more balanced.

[drowsy plank]

why would that make it more balanced

[rancid lotus]

If you don't like your MHP, Dauntless is now a modifier.

[drowsy plank]

eh?

they're talking about boss HP

[rose tree]

Because my friend is bad help (only 800 dps at this stage is not so much) and with him we still did kill duke fishron on 187,5% of health. All attacks were focused on me either way. On singleplayer with duke fishron 100% healh points and me dealing like 2,5k dps I couldnt make it

[drowsy plank]

i dont really feel like this proves anything

the ability to respawn with two people is probably a major factor and also DPS is an awful measure of real damage

[half imp]

if you want it harder turn on a mod to disable despawn during bosses or turn up the HP in configs

[hollow shell]

I love you Burning Sky

[rancid lotus]

That would be hilarious.

[hollow shell]

(I joked about giving it a stealth strike when I learned it was getting ranged modifiers)

[craggy girder]

Burning Sky becoming an Average Weapon??

[oblique birch]

@half imp

[craggy girder]

that would actually be really really cool maybe, since itd be an average weapon on the yharon tier

[rancid lotus]

We need more average weapons, it looks like Aestheticus and Deliverance.

[hollow shell]

Nah it'd ruin the joke

[half imp]

no

[craggy girder]

fuuuck

[half imp]

it needs to stay melee dmg

average weapons are not full weapons anyway

[oblique birch]

get boosted from all class melee dmg

[drowsy plank]

to be fair it gets ranged prefixes because vanilla did it first

[hollow shell]

The whole point is that Burning Sky is a lampoon on projectile-focused melee weapons

[north oracle]

SAME

burning sky is such a funny weapon

[craggy girder]

its

a melee weapon that does not do damage by hitting it
gets ranged prefixes when not really using ranged stuff
attacks like a mage weapon without costing mana

[oblique birch]

it should use mana

[hollow shell]

It should use Etherian Mana

[rancid lotus]

It should take up a sentry slot.

[oblique birch]

dude what are we doing why hasn't it been given mana cost already

[kindred creek]

Because it’s a melee weapon. Melee weapons don’t use mana. Smh my head 🤦

[drowsy plank]

earlier we were talking about this in tiercord and i suggested giving it a right click that summons a sentry and someone else suggested that you could put the stealth strike on that

[hollow shell]

Anyway under almost any other circumstance I'd say this suggestion is a ❗
Like my sugg mod instincts are screaming at me

But it's Burning Sky

[craggy girder]

its Burning Sky

[kindred creek]

That’s great. Love it.

[craggy girder]

thing should drop from Zenith Seed somewhere its that stupid

[half imp]

leave it it's funny

i wanna see what happens

if it makes it to dev

[drowsy plank]

which is actually a pretty interesting idea honestly
a right click that summons a strong projectile on a cooldown is a pretty interesting idea for a secondary mechanic

[oblique birch]

it's Burning Sky

[north oracle]

the stealth strike does nothing

it just consumes stealth

[crude geode]

every update something new should be added to burning sky

[novel belfry]

JESUS CHRIST JUST REWORK BURNING SKY TO BE A SERIOUS WEAPON

[crude geode]

it produces a random ass projectile

[craggy girder]

NO

[drowsy plank]

once rogue stealth moves to weapons like it has been suggested a couple times it would make sense to make burning sky generate it too lol

[craggy girder]

IT WILL BE STUPID

yharon already drops a top tier melee weapon

cant you make it technically an average weapon, but it takes all benefits from other classes and makes it melee damage

like if you had +15% magic damage, it'd turn into +15% melee damage

[hollow shell]

We have enough serious weapons. We can let one be dumb as hell.

[oblique birch]

it should get half of the benefits of melee stats

[drowsy plank]

i think the funniest part is like

it's totally still viable

[novel belfry]

and that. can be the Bast Defense instead

[oblique birch]

and full benefits of all other stats

[craggy girder]

Yes.

Exactly

[oblique birch]

I'm cooking

[drowsy plank]

wait

[craggy girder]

when you use the secondary, it does not consume stealth unless you have stealth, in which it does

[rancid lotus]

Make the Burning Sky Tooltip “You have no idea how to use this weapon.”

[drowsy plank]

give burning sky the phasesaber right click

that's how you give it sentry functionality

[craggy girder]

airborne phasesaber

[rancid lotus]

Give Burning sky a right click where you reverse grip it.

[craggy girder]

it sticks itself to your cursor or something

[crude geode]

No

we need MORE silly weapons

[hollow shell]

(I don't think it's a right-click)

[drowsy plank]

bast defense doesnt even exist yet

[craggy girder]

its right click

lc is a normal swing, rc is the clinger staff

[oblique birch]

no you just release the left click

[hollow shell]

Vanilla wiki says- yeah

[craggy girder]

What

Why

[drowsy plank]

red moment

[craggy girder]

Damn You Spinks

nearly called them by his first name but that would be double damning

[hollow shell]

(Kudos for giving a boring broadsword cool functionality
Anti-kudos for giving a melee weapon a long-ranged/lingering attack)

[crude geode]

yeah

[craggy girder]

ale tosser..........

we have a pre hm stupid weapon, a post ml stupid weapon

whats the hm stupid weapon

[crude geode]

anything from gss

[craggy girder]

fuck you???? what did GSS ever do to you

[crude geode]

be boring

[craggy girder]

P-GSS is maybe the coolest of the weapons

[crude geode]

reheat sand elemental's nachos

[oblique birch]

what a pre hm stupid weapon

[hollow shell]

haha hehe

[craggy girder]

what even is the hm gss

[hollow shell]

Assuming you're not doing a bit, Jane Bast is referring to Great Sand Shark

[craggy girder]

Ohhhhhh.

[crude geode]

LMAO

[craggy girder]

im sorry i really like the updated draedon arsenal

[hollow shell]

I do too

!

[craggy girder]

i refer to them all by their actual names

instead of their nicknames

[crude geode]

yeah no I have no opinion on the arsenal updates bc I haven't played lmao

I just hate gss and ravager and that's my 9-5

[hollow shell]

As someone who has played (a rare state for me to be in),
the arsenal updates are very cool

[craggy girder]

the hardmode gss is R-GSS: Vulcan and B-GSS: Nidhogg

[hollow shell]

("gss" meaning "Gauss" i.e. one of the five arsenal weapon themes)

[crude geode]

ahhh

[north oracle]

valid

[craggy girder]

((Gauss being Magnetics))

[crude geode]

why refer to them with that if we're going to have great sand shark existing

i know the answer shush

[hollow shell]

Cuz "GAS" and "GUS" would be too weird

[crude geode]

this shit straight gas

[north oracle]

GUS CANNON

[crude geode]

TRUE

[craggy girder]

gss is magnets
tsl is Tesla/electricity
pls is Pulse whatever that is
lsr is Laser
and pma is Plasma

[craggy girder]

GAU would maybe work

possible confusion with Gold but

[hollow shell]

GAU ain't bad

[craggy girder]

GSS works the best since Great Sand Shark sucks

[crude geode]

@novel belfry no

the weapon is the joke

the joke is the weapon

[novel belfry]

the joke insists upon itself

[north oracle]

this absolutely won't happen but it technically doesn't break rules

[crude geode]

https://tenor.com/view/family-guy-peter-griffin-itinsistsuponitself-gif-26249772

[craggy girder]

bsides i know grand as like. Argus's Steed

[hollow shell]

I mean many other cases of shitass projectile melee weapons are getting reworked throughout the mod

Burning Sky was not alone

[craggy girder]

the joke comes in threes

[drowsy plank]

boo

[rancid lotus]

Are they gonna rework my epic Ark of the Cosmos?

[novel belfry]

the joke comes for your mother

[north oracle]

if burning sky gets reworked it'll be made into something that furthers the joke beyond what it already is

[crude geode]

we got fun police in sugg posting smh my head

[craggy girder]

Ark of the Cosmos is such a wack ass weapon can i be real

[rancid lotus]

Actually, that attack where it turns into a boomerang is kinda boring.

[crude geode]

YES

[craggy girder]

it fails at close range and it fails at mid-long range

[hollow shell]

Ark of the Cosmos is the rework of a shitass melee weapon

Pre-Iban AotC was one of the posterchilds of "magelee"

[distant gyro]

i love that the burning sky is the engagement bait of this mod

[crude geode]

it is

[craggy girder]

if you want good projectile slashes, use Orderbringer or something

use Zenith. Ataraxia even

you do not use the boiled down pebble

[north oracle]

unreal burning sky (melee damage) (doesn't swing, fires projectiles)

[crude geode]

are the projectiles even modified by unreal

[distant gyro]

yeah

[drowsy plank]

i think so

[craggy girder]

hilarious idea: have it spin like Hellborn but like a baton and it does No Damage

[hollow shell]

":mage:"

[drowsy plank]

unreal is surprisingly applicable due to how it works

[crude geode]

😭

[north oracle]

i miss arbalest being fukcing stupid

[novel belfry]

honestly i think ark of the cosmos is undertuned

i dunno how

[craggy girder]

dude i remember arbalest

[novel belfry]

i just feel like its not giving me the bang for my buck

[craggy girder]

okay so you remember biome blade

[crude geode]

I remember alluvion or whatever the bow was called

[rancid lotus]

Who Iban?

[craggy girder]

you remember how awesome SPECIFICALLY broken and biome blade were

okay now Remove That

[drowsy plank]

alluvion is still in the game

[crude geode]

https://tenor.com/view/growing-old-getting-old-grow-old-old-man-becoming-old-gif-17885988

[north oracle]

AotC just happens to be actually balanced as a strong weapon

instead of just being stupidly powerful and unbalanced

[golden sonnet]

Ok, I personally dislike burning sky being what it is, but I am willing to compromise if we revert whatever they hell they did to ale tosser

[craggy girder]

"strong" and "AotC" in the same sentence

[rancid lotus]

I will say, the Ark of the Cosmos is just too weak compared to the other melees from my experience.

[craggy girder]

its kinda Poop

[hollow shell]

Current lead developer of Calamity Fables

Used to be a developer for Calamity itself
Made a lot of cool shit for the mod until Fabsol got scared he was too good and wanted him kicked off the team, so Iban made his own Calamity with blackjack and hookers

[north oracle]

it's a minute under both ontier killtimes
everything else is the problem there 🤷‍♂️

[hollow shell]

And I can say this story outright now because Fabsol is gone

[rancid lotus]

Which is sad because it's actually a really cool weapon visually and thematically.

[crude geode]

[craggy girder]

Yay!!

[north oracle]

Iban made calamity without fabsol, then calamity killed fabsol

[craggy girder]

i know OF Iban, i just dont know of Iban

[rancid lotus]

Why didn't he become the owner of the mod after Fabsol left?

[crude geode]

he already left

[novel belfry]

WAIT
ale tosser is a melee weapon? wtf?

[drowsy plank]

yes

[hollow shell]

Iban left long before Fabsol got booted

[drowsy plank]

blame vanilla

[novel belfry]

2022

[craggy girder]

it uses ammo btw

[north oracle]

becaues he left like 3 years ago yea

[drowsy plank]

this is all vanilla's fault

[novel belfry]

oh my god

this is a new change

[crude geode]

no

[drowsy plank]

1.4.5 yes

[frail fox]

Praying that Yharon and his drops would be reworked before before 1.4.5 port but that’s also impossible because nothing ever Yharons

[novel belfry]

i knew something was off because i swore this wasnt melee

wtf

[north oracle]

yharon never

[golden sonnet]

Also like, I can't speak for the team back then, but there were more issues with iban and the team than just fabsol

[hollow shell]

... it was mostly Fabsol

[drowsy plank]

ale tosser going from thrower to ranged to melee

[hollow shell]

As someone who was there

[north oracle]

it was other conflicts than only fabsol
he wasj ust a pretty damn massive part of it because yk it was fabsol

[craggy girder]

as a guy who likes cool cal content: Yaaaaay more weapon reworks yaaa

[kindred creek]

No