suggestions-discussion

[indigo yacht]

they should add more IoL to calamity

[lucid marsh]

huh

[tepid crown]

inquality of life (idk im just assuming)

[indigo yacht]

inconvenience

[tepid crown]

also why is that your first assumption

[dense ferry]

Fuck off

Don't spew bullshit you know nothing about out of your mouth

[earnest raptor]

what I can do as apology?

[craggy girder]

not say stuff liket hat again :)

[dense ferry]

^

[craggy girder]

CEI coulda left for any reason they pleased

[dense ferry]

Thank you for acknowledging your error, though

I appreciate

[sleek turret]

torturraria + calamity mod compat

[earnest raptor]

I didn't knew friend bonds were that strong here

[craggy girder]

i mean its just a generally Common Sense thing moreso than a friends thing

a guy can leave a team for any reason they want

[lucid marsh]

hey there's this thing that's probably a bug but I do NOT want to dig up logs for it. The Calamity menus such as event progress don't match the GUI scaling

[earnest raptor]

the logic just made sense to me

the post generated typhoon of hate towards them and devs

[lucid marsh]

redditors are just uh

redditors suck

no one here cares about them

[dense ferry]

Yeah but even if you're right, it's not really pleasing to come here and go "damn they really fucked up huh!"

I'm just gonna tap this out I'm too tired and angry at this moment

Sorry if I come off as harsher than I should

[earnest raptor]

would be cool, if dev team terminated subreddit for good someday, if it only creates problems

[dense ferry]

I don't really think you deserve my shit

As in

Me giving you shit

[earnest raptor]

I acknowledge that I strung the wrong string in the heart

[lucid marsh]

they are not able to I think

[dense ferry]

A new one would just show up a day later anyways

[drowsy plank]

it happened once and they just made another unregulated one

[dense ferry]

Thanks, tho

[drowsy plank]

it's like fandom wikis, the only solution is to be in control of it

at least cal's is thoroughly trashed so you can tell almost immediately to use the normal one tho

still crazy we got away with that lmao

[earnest raptor]

or at least remove any signs of officiality

so devs do not feel obligated to damage control there

[lucid marsh]

doesn't work

[drowsy plank]

that's just gonna make it look even worse bc then no one is regulating what people are saying

they could be posting slurs in there for all we'd know without it being under official control

at least like this we can prevent it from being racist

can't fix them being assholes tho

[earnest raptor]

sadge

I thought that resigning any rights to it would create a perfect excuse

"it's not official place, so their opinions do not matter"

[tepid crown]

there is a way to get rid of assholes tho... its called following george orwells 1984

[drowsy plank]

again

then they just make alt subs

[tepid crown]

ya ik,,

[drowsy plank]

their opinions still mostly do not matter to people here, but they still have them and they're part of the community no matter where or how they post, so it's best to just work on a strategy of minimizing their harm by at least having devs around to try to correct people

in general they're a group of the most ungrateful assholes imaginable and are exactly why people like dokuro left

they have learned approximately nothing and will continue to be horrible for the foreseeable future, i assume

[dense ferry]

They preach about Dokuro while being exactly why he left

[tepid crown]

and are also the first people to say "omg can u believe how dokuro left!!! im so glad we arent like that!"

[drowsy plank]

LMAO

[frail fox]

Don’t you see, Dokuro left because of qol removals

[drowsy plank]

[north oracle]

The mod will die because cosmolight got retiered

[crude geode]

truly

[neat linden]

It's not an instant time changer anymore either, it sucks, Calamity is dead,,,,,,

[gilded citrus]

@alpine cradle i suggest reading the rules for the suggestions cause thats not formatted well, the rules should be in a doc either this channel or posting i dont remember which

[whole tundra]

@hot bison Already suggested and is still able to be found in #suggestions-posting

[hot bison]

yeah, i kinda noticed it but it was too late

[zealous junco]

https://tenor.com/view/yuji-stare-yuji-itadori-jjk-jujutsu-kaisen-yuji-stare-meme-gif-2566228405341525362

my sources say go right

[royal tapir]

This just seems like using too much space?

It’s definitely intentional that DoG deals contact damage during laser walls

[zealous junco]

he's coilin around nclosin in because he's programmed to coil around your current location

the more you move the less space you have

[toxic basalt]

and that's counterintuitive to phase 3 laser grids as you're forced to move more to find a gap

[whole tundra]

No it's because DoG is heading into a portal

[toxic basalt]

also that yeah

[whole tundra]

I feel like if DoG is going into a portal at that speed directly after a grid, it should have no contact dmg

[toxic basalt]

I should probably word it to be more about fixing the transition

[zealous junco]

i feel like if you just kept moving up you could've avoided taking contact

since the length of the worm causes its tail to lag behind a bit i think you jus keep moving in one direction but you moved in the opposite direction of where you moved previously

[toxic basalt]

I moved to whatever gap I saw when they flash

positioning depending on where his body is should not be something of concern during an attack that makes you think fast

[half imp]

I have tried to fix this and the residual fabcode made it surprisingly hard

[indigo yacht]

woe, fabsol be upon ye

[misty lichen]

couldn’t segments just briefly not have contact damage during this transition

like obviously they need it during the walls but after they’re done they could briefly not have any

[gilded citrus]

Yeah thats
Probably what fabsolian code stopped being easy to do

[minor ginkgo]

I wonder if I should have said blocks instead of walls. My bad.

[misty lichen]

i will say normally melee weapons only hit through walls if the target is an enemy that can go through walls

[drowsy plank]

well man eaters and cursed skulls are so...

[misty lichen]

so id reword this to be for enemies that travel through walls specifically since it usually is a concern when it’s for an enemy that can’t

it’s likely an issue with how the item is made, yeah

[drowsy plank]

might be a bit of a bug tbqh

honestly actually yeah this could go in #1052323733961977947 as an oversight

[misty lichen]

it should be collision check or enemy.tilecollide = false

but it’s just collision check

[minor ginkgo]

Oh, I see.

Then one moment while I put it there, instead.

[keen zodiac]

oh my fucking god there's 41 suggestions waiting in posting 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭

[craggy girder]

RELEASE MEEEE

RELEASE MEEEEEEEE

[gilded citrus]

Look at the one right above yours 😭

[crude geode]

Address Me

[gilded citrus]

Oh wait

[keen zodiac]

yeah it reminded me of that

[gilded citrus]

Nvm dif items

[keen zodiac]

that's why i posted mine

[craggy girder]

i feel like i should suggest "Make attacks more obvious if their attack actually phases through blocks"

[crude geode]

Sentenced to 5 years as calamity Reddit mod

[craggy girder]

since some visually go through blocks, but dont actually attack through them

[keen zodiac]

five. hundred. suggestions

[craggy girder]

while others don't, but can

[gilded citrus]

Damn i get to nuke the reddit and they cant stop me

[drowsy plank]

any idea when you might be looking at this considering u missed tuesday?

[inland saddle]

I don’t have a desk yet 😭

Hopefully I will be getting one today but it’s all kinda slow

[drowsy plank]

oof

best of luck with that

[hollow shell]

#suggestions-posting message
Thank you

I was thinking the same thing when using Auger.
The line of sight detection seems too sensitive, like if there's a single block between you and the enemy then the hit won't register, even if parts of the blade's visual clearly collide with the enemy's sprite through unobstructed air

If the devs don't want it to hit through tiles for balance reasons, then uhh
Well, I dunno if it's possible for them to implement a more forgiving hit detection algorithm
(like casting multiple rays, or doing a really tiny A-Star pathfind, to determine if there's an unobstructed path connecting the weapon's visual to enemies it intersects with / between the player and the enemies)
but if they can, that'd be appreciated

[half imp]

I mean

It should just do what vanilla does

It can hit things that don't tile collide through tiles

And it can't hit things that do tile collide through tiles

[indigo yacht]

if possible maybe only like 10 could be moved at a time so it doesn't take a half hour to scroll up when looking for things to vote on

i wouldn't imagine it is though

[drowsy plank]

...the default laser noise?

[errant wren]

something something invalid because reversion i think

damn i need to play cal again

[lucid marsh]

Am I allowed to suggest for NPCs to like or dislike calamity biomes?

[drowsy plank]

@left sparrow you can't use balance to justify an addition; if an accessory is underpowered a report should go in #1178515062030348308

[hollow shell]

xb!
This is a shocking level of specificity in your sugg, for a regular like you

(Also I don't think NPCs typically like or dislike more than one biome?)

[left sparrow]

fug

off I go to the correct place then

[umbral gazelle]

lore yapping time blah blah blah but why would bandit like sulphurous sea? they dont seem to have any benefit from the sea, no hideout, no trader to pickpocket from etc

[hollow shell]

Sunken treasure?

[umbral gazelle]

maybe but bandit seem like a person that prefer stealing more than treasure hunting

[severe cypress]

I'm more confused as to why anyone would enjoy living in the astral infection. Seems like it would be more fitting to have it be "uninhabitable," similar to the evil biome/dungeon

[craggy girder]

i think it'd be really really cool to have it be a Neutral zone

like NPCs in it do not gain nor lose any happiness for the biome

[left sparrow]

except the dryad ig

dryad would be pissy about being there

[severe cypress]

I really like the concept tho.

[drowsy plank]

astral is more like hallowed than evils

[left sparrow]

I can kinda see that

It's still considered an infection tho

there aren't even any rainbows

[severe cypress]

idk the vibe it gave for me was always closer to the corruption than anything else

[delicate lagoon]

AFAIK happiness for liked biome can only be one - or, at least, the bestiary background for the NPC (which is a wiki-free way to discover their liked biome) can only be one

[severe cypress]

Is it not set up as love/like/dislike/hate? I know it's generally only like/dislike, but I don't think there's anything stopping all 4 from being used

[lucid marsh]

I gave suggestions that seemed to make sense it doesn't have to be exactly those. I suppose I can remove that part though. Also, vanilla NPCs all have interactions with multiple biomes, at the very least for hating the evil biomes

Also, vanilla NPCs can like and dislike multiple other NPCs so I see no reason they couldn't do that for biomes

[hollow shell]

They don't hate the evil biomes, they literally cannot live in them

[lucid marsh]

They have comments for being near evil biomes while not close enough to be uninhabitable, and it decreases their happiness

[hollow shell]

It seems more like a specific exception is made for the evil biomes (and dungeon), rather than it being a part of the like/love-dislike/hate system

[lucid marsh]

Even so, the calamity biomes are awkward with NPCs the way they are. I would very much like it if NPCs had reactions to them

[left sparrow]

Enchanted knife has broken at least 3 queen bee larvae on accident

[cloud surge]

scientists have invented the first minion that secretly hurts you

[half imp]

hmm enchanted knife might be too mobile for a pre boss minion

[cloud surge]

also true

i would say the damage feels really low but im also not playing summoner and its really easy to get

[left sparrow]

It's safe and consistent damage that can instantly teleport to enemies nearby

it's certainly immediately better than finch staff

[frail fox]

Coughing baby vs bomb

[coarse haven]

It carried Mii the whole early game

[hollow shell]

It seemed kinda ass when I tried it, a bit weird n inconsistent compared to Stormjaw and later Deathstare

[cloud surge]

actually gonna edit the sugg to just all summoned projectiles because teslas amulet is even weirder

[hollow shell]

@steel wedge Having trouble understanding what you're referring to
Are you not turning off the accessories' visibility with the lil eye icon?

[steel wedge]

I will check now to see if i have actual brain damage

you are correct you can delete my suggestion or close it

I did not notice it at all

[hollow shell]

Alright cool lol, glad to be of service

[steel wedge]

I'll try and remember by the time 1.4.5 or 2.2 comes out

[fleet grotto]

guide to peaceful coexistence

[sleek turret]

true actually

[half imp]

I like how that and guide to critter companionship imply the player literally does not know to not break nature and only knows due to reading the guide

And has memory of dory because forgets as soon as the book is out of sight

[hazy nacelle]

and yet, you will still destroy bee larva

some weapons hit way too far off screen and go through blocks

[sleek turret]

ancient ice chunk projectiles 😭

[fleet grotto]

or if the book is flipped sideways

[half imp]

true

[tiny minnow]

The player is like a koala in that aspect

[whole tundra]

I find it oddly whimsical how @grave zinc died right after the last Pre Brainstorm suggestion was uploaded to #suggestions-voting

[cloud surge]

Vanilla disables breaking nature tiles on some projectiles and I think cal should too because these things can get too destructive/automatic

[gilded citrus]

Why does flare bolt go through blocks but like only half the time

[glass arch]

sometimes its hitbox barely misses a tiny gap in tile hitboxes iirc

[gilded citrus]

Oh weird

[keen zodiac]

@dreamy flume improper formatting

also what does that even mean

[dreamy flume]

oh my bad im new here

):

[keen zodiac]

i just don't understand what you're suggesting

[dreamy flume]

o like uhh

maybe something similar to the nanomechanics accessory like how it adds onto the mechanics of the adrenaline thingy

i thought it'd be pretty cool to have more stuff like that

[keen zodiac]

perhaps

though you need a reason other than "it would be cool"

suggestions are generally for fixing a problem with the mod

[austere oracle]

is saying an item should be dyeable suggestion worthy

[half imp]

yes

[delicate lagoon]

There's already an item, I think it's called the Occult Skull Crown, that changes how rage works

[left sparrow]

tbh I think all the dash effects should be dyable

that's a neat idea

[toxic basalt]

there's also the Shattered Community

[inland saddle]

While I still do not have a desk, I figured in the meantime I'd just set my server up and run it in the corner

It's not permanent but it's fine for now

Suggbot is back

[whole tundra]

It's breathing!

[craggy girder]

its BACK

[gilded citrus]

I CAN SEE IT COUNTING UP LMAO

[errant cradle]

five. hundred. suggestions.

[whole tundra]

This is going to be so unfair for the older suggestions

[craggy girder]

the newer, actually

its newest first

[glass arch]

dear god

[whole tundra]

Oh yeah right

[north oracle]

oh god
sorry suggestions voters

[inland saddle]

!t

Dayum

Maybe it's working hard

I can see the console going hyperspeed the program is still running

[frail fox]

#suggestions-voting message I like how this one was already implemented

[drowsy plank]

i think some of these already passed yeah

[craggy girder]

it worked for exactly 30 seconds and then Broke

[glass arch]

no

it didnt break

[inland saddle]

Oh I think it's getting too many reaction events

idk why it says offline it isnt

[grave zinc]

@delicate lagoon - Your suggestion has received an updated status!

[Photosensitivity option should affect the new Whitewater stealth strike vortex]

It has officially been implemented into the game, and will be available in the next update!
You can check out your suggestion again here: #suggestions-voting message

[inland saddle]

wild

[drowsy plank]

fuckin uhhhhhh

im pretty sure some of these other ones also already happened

[grave zinc]

@gilded crow - Your suggestion has received an updated status!

[tone down visual effects even further with photosensitive mode]

It has officially been implemented into the game, and will be available in the next update!
You can check out your suggestion again here: #suggestions-voting message

[drowsy plank]

am i missing any other ones

[half imp]

@jade crane we already force projectiles that are alive when the attack starts to not deal damage for the attack duration

[mystic sandal]

Ain’t no goddamn way the sunskate one got through

[half imp]

Have you been running into this issue still?

[boreal lichen]

as god intended

[half imp]

We can't despawn everything bc that would cause issues with minions and other projectiles that need to be semi perman

[drowsy plank]

if this the case then this should go in #1052323733961977947
ill flag it if you aren't going to

[glass arch]

ok to be fair rampart of deities also isnt a super descriptive name

[mystic sandal]

I at least know that it’s probably something defensive in nature

[half imp]

Curser

[gilded crow]

<3
thank you

[half imp]

They're actually already in 2.1.1

bot just been struggling lol

[keen zodiac]

oh god

the swarm

[grave zinc]

@patent nimbus - Your suggestion has received an updated status!

[Make Mid-Fight Boss Monologues Appear Near the Player instead of in the Corner]

It has been decided that your suggestion can neither be passed nor denied; either the devs have already made plans that conflict with it, or they have decided to implement an altered version.
You can check out your suggestion again here: #suggestions-voting message

[half imp]

I can't remember a better emoji than that and technically we haven't decided exactly how to implement it

but we do plan to use the dialogue system from dog on other bosses eventually

[grave zinc]

@little crescent - Your suggestion has received an updated status!

[Nerf the wulfrum bobber fishing minigame]

It has officially been implemented into the game, and will be available in the next update!
You can check out your suggestion again here: #suggestions-voting message

@toxic basalt - Your suggestion has received an updated status!

[Tweak Devourer of God's transitioning from the laser grids to prevent unavoidable contact damage]

It has officially been implemented into the game, and will be available in the next update!
You can check out your suggestion again here: #suggestions-voting message

[drowsy plank]

no yeah you used this entirely correctly dw

[half imp]

2.1.1 updated the tooltip to be more clear

[drowsy plank]

need more devs to do stuff like this

[half imp]

Will come in 2.1.2

(thank you cit for dealing with the fabcode for me)

[drowsy plank]

best of luck on untangling all of that lmao

[dense ferry]

There will be no untangling

It's just going to be nuked

[keen zodiac]

as god intended

[drowsy plank]

i meant for stuff like the rev+ enemy AI but if yall just wanna kill it outright then

i need skeleton and goblin projectiles to stop despawning before they even reach the player

[craggy girder]

you cant untangle it, you just cut any knots in it and there you go

[jade crane]

Yes I have

[half imp]

As I suspected

It's from the explosion they spawn

not the frost bolt itself

I've made a note to fix on dev

[jade crane]

Nice, in that case nevermind

[half imp]

To be fair atlas isn't really rotary

It doesn't rotate

[craggy girder]

i dont think i saw clone attack

i killed it too fast

[half imp]

BoC has so many attacks

[craggy girder]

(basher my <3)

[half imp]

good thing I nerfed basher

[craggy girder]

how so

[half imp]

2.1.1 - 2.5x to 2x on the alt fire

[craggy girder]

oh so not cripplingly

[half imp]

yeah

But hopefully enough to keep the post eoc weapon from getting under KT on ALL of prehardmode

[craggy girder]

what

howd it get under KT on uhh

SG and Deerclops

you basically get flung all the time

well i mean SG kills himself but like

(to my knowledge)

[umbral gazelle]

the sub barrel does rotate though

[craggy girder]

no.... not another imp drop........

[craggy girder]

i already need to farm them for like seven items.......................

[umbral gazelle]

it doesnt make sense too since rotary machine gun are designed to counter barrel and gun heating but atlas munition beacon can overheat despite the gun rotating like ordinary rotary machine gun

[crude geode]

I only need to farm them for like six drops

[half imp]

huh

[half imp]

aim up

You'll just be pushed into the ground and not move

[keen zodiac]

make ancient cloth prehardmode

[drowsy plank]

honestly i was considering saying that but it might fuck with crossmod

[keen zodiac]

damn

[hazy nacelle]

desert prowler becoming rogue armor helps a little with the confusing mess that it was existing alongside fossil armor but being just as hard to get

but yeah, vultures would need a drop to make it actually craftable early with desert materials unless you want to slap tons of sand on it

[drowsy plank]

erm uh
500 iq idea make fossil rogue/ranger multiclass with the same set bonus desert prowler has rn

[crude geode]

trueeeee

[drowsy plank]

it's funny bc otherwise they literally have the same stats proportionally

like the same damage and crit on the same pieces but just for their respective classes

[ocean salmon]

holy Aerial Bane+grape beer is kinda OP

[indigo yacht]

how did this get to voting

[glass arch]

vanity sugg

those tend to get passes on "it would be cool" reasoning because like. not much other reasoning is applicable

there isnt any "objectivity" to speak of with vanity things like pets or town pets or vanity armor so outside of consistency suggs its like nearly impossible to provide objective reasoning or proof for an item or npc that does nothing but sit there and be pretty

[fleet grotto]

town shroombles

like town slimes

genius!

[grave zinc]

@rugged sonnet - Your suggestion has received an updated status!

[Making the Spelunker's Amulet available in Pre-HM along with an upgrade tree]

It has received enough votes to be passed on to the dev server for voting! You'll be notified again when a verdict is reached.
You can check out your suggestion again here: #suggestions-voting message

@dense locust - Your suggestion has received an updated status!

[make skeleton merchant's calamity items sold based on moon phases]

It has received enough votes to be passed on to the dev server for voting! You'll be notified again when a verdict is reached.
You can check out your suggestion again here: #suggestions-voting message

[craggy girder]

put stormlion mandible as like lil shark teeth on the armor

[toxic basalt]

[frigid night]

was gonna ask why tf is fluffy suggesting things

[gilded citrus]

Same

[grim tusk]

tbh I wonder why we didnt get other mushroom type shroombles

[half imp]

ngl I've considered posting suggestions just for kicks

[grim tusk]

iirc back when I was dev I occasionally placed stuff in #suggestions-posting to see the community's thoughts on it, especially when I suspected it might not get as much traction by posting it in dev directly

#suggestions-voting message aint this impossible due to tmod limitations?

[vocal wedge]

Calamitas reacts to a modded biome. Unless someone used dark magic to implement that...

[hazy nacelle]

yes, a dislike for one (1) biome

[keen zodiac]

wrong fluffy

[frigid night]

yes i saw

[kind laurel]

Is removing Meld Constructs a good suggestion
In my eyes adding Soot to it doesn’t improve anything and is just an extra material for extra materials’ sake (it’s debatably even Astral Infection-related at all)

[vocal wedge]

Isn't it meant to be a Rogue pillar drop?

[kind laurel]

Meld Blobs drop from the pillars and are meant for rogue

For some reason you have to add Starblight Soot to them to make Meld Constructs for the actual gear

I see that as an unnecessary extra step

[craggy girder]

why does meld blob even exist and not some neutral fifth fragment

it looks cool but it could genuinely be a different “
fragment in sprite and i don’t think many would complain

[glass arch]

because its not a fragment and it being a fragment implies that it should have its own pillar but new pillars arent a very good idea id say

[craggy girder]

Thrower and Bard Fragment from Thorium:
(not saying to copy it from them but they do a similar concept)

((moreso the Essence of lunar creatures than an actual Pillar))

[kind laurel]

It seems someone already suggested it in 2023 and it got denied

I wonder why

[keen zodiac]

well that was during the fabsol regime

[kind laurel]

Fair

[hollow shell]

aww but the Meld & Astral lore implications

(I have no idea at all what Meld is in the current lore, nor its relation to Astral)

[keen zodiac]

unless there's Dev Secrets™ meld literally doesn't have any lore whatsoever

[hollow shell]

lol.

[keen zodiac]

and if there was, why would it be secret
it's meld

[gilded citrus]

I mean the pillars are auric dragons no? Wouldnt be surprised there is lore for it

[keen zodiac]

i think everyone on the dev team forgets meld exists

[glass arch]

its relation to the astral is solely through stardust being needed to craft constructs

[hollow shell]

When I was a dev it was related to both Astral and Noxus

but that was before the current lore what with the dragons and auric souls and whatnot

[glass arch]

outside of that theres nothing

[frail fox]

The dark gods…

[glass arch]

and the deus drop ig but that was more so rogue wasnt literally the only class that needed to do pillars to get more of its stuff

[hollow shell]

(it pertained importantly to Xeroc being the god of the universe, i.e. what Nameless Deity took inspiration from,
rather than a guy who eated a dragon soul

So, wouldn't apply nowadays.)

[frail fox]

Noxus (astral) and ML (lunar events) were the last 2 dark gods or something so meld being related to both of them made sense, although it used to be the xeroc set so idk what the lore was at that point

[craggy girder]

what even is meld

[hollow shell]

It was the brief period of post Dark/Light Gods lore but pre Auric Souls lore

[glass arch]

space goop

[craggy girder]

like genuinely what is the substance called Meld

[hollow shell]

Though I think current Meld was sprited with Dark Gods lore in mind

so

Kinda funny

[craggy girder]

im still on my point of "Meld should just be the physical remains of all Lunar Creatures" instead of "evil goop lol"

[frail fox]

Interesting

[hollow shell]

((I'm just familiar with it cuz it was the only time I was one of the ones involved in writing the lore ))

[polar bison]

In current lore and seemingly future lore there is zero connection

[vocal wedge]

It's the gunk it seems.

[boreal lichen]

wdym isnt it very obvious that its special distortion-made chewing gum that moon lord is trying to export to terraria

[vocal wedge]

But the dragons are isolationists because they wish to uphold the mandate of dragon heaven. Fovos was merely an innocent merchant.

[tardy geyser]

Meld contruct could be turned into a block, and add furniture made with that block, because the pillars have their own blocks and furniture sets.

[kind laurel]

That's actually a great idea

[sleek sable]

would need luminite to be a part of its recipe

but yea it could work

[sterile coral]

I noticed an inaccuracy on the Skytide Dragoon page.
It says he has 365 (Ranged) damage, but in v2.1.0 he now has Melee damage.

[glass arch]

page is unupdated, wiki issues go in #wiki-discussion

[sterile coral]

thx

[lucid marsh]

There's already a remnant of ilmerian cloth: Vanilla's Ancient Cloth

Best thing I can think of: remove desert prowler and make fossil armor hybrid rogue/ranger

[drowsy plank]

@jagged pagoda please read the rules; no specific item suggestions

[jagged pagoda]

My bad, read it wrong 😑

[craggy girder]

all T1 enemies drop sulphuric scales

[glass arch]

this persons issue is that they didnt do t1

[craggy girder]

do t2 enemies not drop scales

[glass arch]

they do

or well

[craggy girder]

then kill t2 enemies

[glass arch]

t2 exclusive enemies dont

their issue is they cant get to t2

because they didnt do t1

[craggy girder]

just wait for it to rain ??????

[glass arch]

so they dont have any caustic tears

[craggy girder]

/gen get some enchanted sundials and go sleep if you ened to

[glass arch]

enchanted sundial is a poor argument as thats a once per ingame week deal

[craggy girder]

sleep and/or do other things

my point is that you dont need an item to summon the acid rain since it already exists

and moving its recipe would likely mean you still need sulph scales (post acid rain)

[glass arch]

what

no

[craggy girder]

this is a nothing suggestion

[glass arch]

they're asking for the recipe to be changed to not be locked behind acid rain

[craggy girder]

why would they do that

[glass arch]

in case someone didnt do acid rain t1

[craggy girder]

ah yes i want my post-eoc gear pre-eoc please

[keen zodiac]

you could make it like
post evil1 or hardmode

[craggy girder]

again this is a nothingburger suggestion

[craggy girder]

but

why would you

[keen zodiac]

but i agree this is a nothing suggestion yeah

[craggy girder]

do that

[glass arch]

as i said

in case someone didnt do acid rain t1

[craggy girder]

if you specifically didnt kill EoC, just kill Aquatic Scourge and i think it insta spawns an acid rain

[glass arch]

nope

[craggy girder]

Okay Well Then Go Kill Eye Of Cthulhu

[glass arch]

im playing devils advocate here i do think the sugg is pointless

the assumption here is that

they

killed eoc

and then didnt go immediately do acid rain

and it ended

[craggy girder]

they killed EoC and have not entered the sulph sea at all whatsoever in the gameplay

it doesnt automatically start

it starts when you walk in

[glass arch]

yeah

im aware

the assumption is that they killed eoc, most likely accidentally activated acid rain, left, and it turned off

[craggy girder]

Okay Then Fuckin Skill Issue?????????????????????????

like this is such a niche possiblity

[glass arch]

thats not a skill issue you cant argue skill issue for a knowledge check

[craggy girder]

you ran there, it said "A toxic downpour falls over the wasteland seas!" and did not even comprehend "hmmmm maybe i should Fight Things Here"

[glass arch]

or you (fairly reasonably) assumed it wouldnt just end out of nowhere

[craggy girder]

its Rain

[errant wren]

i did have a moment like that once

[craggy girder]

like genuinely this is either "you may just have to suffer the consequences of your actions" or "idk man just get better next time"

[glass arch]

there are also things in place for other events if you missed one spawning naturally

[craggy girder]

which often relate to you completing it for the first time

[errant wren]

am i crazy or can you get caustic tear in abyss chests

[glass arch]

nope

[craggy girder]

torrential tear i believe used to be down there

[glass arch]

thats torrential

[errant wren]

got it

[glass arch]

which only does regular rain

caustic tear technically causes rain but thats because rain starts whenever acid rain starts

[craggy girder]

like literally for this guy for this suggestor the solution to their issue is "Just Wait I Guess."

[errant wren]

uhh something using torrential tear maybe? idk i don't have many ideas

[craggy girder]

maybe shimmer torrential. maybe for this one user

[glass arch]

the solution to not having spawners for an event is always just wait i guess

but thats not a good solution

which is why cal has workarounds

[craggy girder]

theres like

two whole failsafes in place

[glass arch]

one failsafe thats easy to miss

[craggy girder]

it activates it when you go there
and it literally activates 99% of the time when it rains

if its raining, its also likely acid raining

[errant wren]

an alternative method of obtaining a event summon isn't the worst thing i feel

not that i would ever use it, probably

[craggy girder]

no one would use it
those who forgot to do acid rain t1 would not know about it and those who did do acid rain t1

[glass arch]

in this case its a nothingburger but it is still a good idea

[errant wren]

a third failsafe

[glass arch]

its not even a third failsafe its a second failsafe

[craggy girder]

is rain not like as common as

Rain

[glass arch]

raining doesnt cause acid rain acid rain causes raining

[craggy girder]

most times when Rain starts up, its caused by Acid Rain to my knowledge

at least in my experience

[errant wren]

we would probably need to like

test that to verify

[glass arch]

having a second failsafe isnt a bad thing when the first failsafe only works once and the only other solution is just to wait

[errant wren]

it's really just a minor change, in the end

with a handful of ways of going about it if it passes

[hazy nacelle]

the scales drop from shaking acidwood trees

[delicate lagoon]

"Providence Offender" 🤣

"Jailed for his crimes" 🤣

[ripe owl]

her

[tropic yoke]

So I was making a base and noticed the Chandeliers and Lanterns don’t have the same glow effect ad the other light sources. Is that worth making a whole suggestion over?

[drowsy plank]

you could send this in #1052323733961977947 as an oversight if you wanted

[jade crane]

Thats a good idea. I just posted it in discussions since this wasn't a bug or anything

[drowsy plank]

i was talking to VRZ

that does look like a bug tho

[tropic yoke]

Does it really count as a bug?

Eh wtv

Do I need to post logs of it 🧐

Hmmmm

[drowsy plank]

it's not a bug it's an oversight

presumably all the light sources from a furniture set were meant to share a light type bc i dont know of any vanilla sets that do not do this

[indigo yacht]

i have a bunch of bugs to report but i dont have the files

also half of them are multiplayer which means that who fucking knows what the issue is

[gilded citrus]

#suggestions-posting message providence offence?

[half imp]

During the provi fight when she summons the 3 guardians

The names are Providence Offense, Providence Defense, Providence... Healer? idr

[gilded citrus]

Oh weird would have thought they were the same names as the boss version

[craggy girder]

honestly renaming all three to be a bit Cooler named would be Neat

[indigo yacht]

remove guardians

[kind laurel]

Healer yes

[kind laurel]

Since Providence is the "commander" in her boss fight, the Providence Commander is replaced by Providence Offense
"Offense" is inconsistent with the others, as I said

[gilded citrus]

Ah ok

[turbid grotto]

What do you guys think of my suggestion

[gilded citrus]

Not formatted correctly

[tepid crown]

adding more subclass weapons for the sake of adding them

🫗

[turbid grotto]

No just an accessory or two

[indigo yacht]

I FUCKING HATE SUBCLASSES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

that said more accessories to make yoyos interesting isnt necessarily a bad thing

because yoyos are really lame

[crude geode]

No

[sleek turret]

just make alredy existing yoyos uniquer smh, like look at most vanilla yoyos

[kind laurel]

You mean the same thing copy/pasted with different stats?

Hive Five releases bees and Terrarian releases a bunch of projectiles that get eaten up by i-frames

That’s every single unique yoyo in vanilla

(I can’t tell if you were being sarcastic or not but I felt like ranting about yoyos anyway)

[sleek turret]

I was being serious

Like, literally most yoyos in vanilla are just the same except different stats

You could argue that hellfire/amarok/amazon/cascade have something unique to them (being that they inflict their respective debuffs) but outside of that they're the same

[hollow shell]

TIL Magnomaly Cannon is still in the game

[turbid grotto]

Yeah but I think more progression of the yoyo bag or a separate accessory wouldn’t be bad n it would make it more viable

[keen zodiac]

@errant flame magnomaly is planned to be transformed into a sawblade launcher Eventually™

[errant flame]

oh

I didn't see that, thx

[obsidian nova]

Is purple haze the only one who has its buff on the cooldown rack?

[little crescent]

as an upgrade to superradiant slaughterer? cause that would be sick i love that weapih

weapon*

[plush flame]

yeah (recreated sprite)

[severe sparrow]

i dont know if it even does

[kind laurel]

I misunderstood your post actually
I thought you meant "Make existing Cal yoyos more unique, look at Vanilla's absolutely wonderful examples for it"

[grand nacelle]

Why is the respawn timer for bosses in multiplayer changed to only 15 seconds? It's so easy to pace your deaths so that your teammate dies just after you respawn, letting you tank damage without a care. Even if it isn't possible to get a dodge-less kill with two players, it's still much easier to survive. 5-15 seconds makes sense in singleplayer, but in multiplayer it's just too short imo and takes out the satisfaction and skill out of killing a boss with your friend

[indigo yacht]

because you can increase it to be longer

[kind laurel]

Is an Ankh Shield upgrade to fill the role left by its exclusion from the Asgards an SIS?

[hazy nacelle]

obviously

[grave zinc]

@rugged sonnet - Your suggestion has received an updated status!

[Making the Spelunker's Amulet available in Pre-HM along with an upgrade tree]

It has been reviewed by the devs, and for one reason or another they decided it would be best not to implement it.
You can check out your suggestion again here: #suggestions-voting message

@dense locust - Your suggestion has received an updated status!

[make skeleton merchant's calamity items sold based on moon phases]

It has been voted upon, and the devs decided it would be a good idea to implement it. This doesn't guarantee implementation, as plans may change/alternate plans may be made, but it does highly improve chances!
You can check out your suggestion again here: #suggestions-voting message

[craggy girder]

yea

not really much reason to have one at the plantera stage either

best time would be post ml or prov imo

[kind laurel]

Didn't really plan on specifying tier, just the general idea of "Ankh Shield upgrade somewhere"

Since debuff immunity was made a lot rarer in 2.1

[craggy girder]

i mean thats kinda intentional

a lotta bosses get to use debuffs that they couldn’t before

(lunatic cultist is a devs example)

[half imp]

No

Unless it's too specific

[kind laurel]

I mean, now you need a dedicated accessory for it instead of just running already good ones and having the immunities come free

[half imp]

yeah

Cultist allows using Ankh for chilled immunity or Frosty Flare for both chilled and frozen immunity

[vocal wedge]

The benefit of not having the damn near mandatory accessory also give a bunch of debuff immunities means that debuffs actually matter and avoiding them is a commitment.

[kind laurel]

Yes, I agree. I remember thinking it was stupid when I first played Calamity.
It does leave a hole for someone who actually really likes debuff immunity for some reason, so I think there could be a new item.
Though if it's unpopular I won't put it in #suggestions-posting

[obsidian nova]

I mean, from what I remember, there's already an upgrade planned somewhere down the line

[indigo yacht]

@neat thunder i would probably put this as an oversight in #1052323733961977947

[neat thunder]

i'll take a look at the requirements for posting in there. suggestions seemed better because people have had astral biome placement issues for a long time, such as meteor placement in a cloud. thanks for the advice

[gilded citrus]

Holy fucking shit 😭 that is HORRENDOUS luck

[indigo yacht]

suggestions are for changing intended behavior and i dont think the monolith landing in the cavern layer is intended

[humble scarab]

^

its best to put it into #1052323733961977947 cuz it isnt intended

[neat thunder]

ok it will take some time to transfer over

[whole tundra]

That worldgen is unholy wtf

[hazy nacelle]

tbh idk how much Calamity can do about meteor going down a hole when vanilla still does it too

[indigo yacht]

i mean you can check nearby highest tiles and see if there's a huge difference

[drowsy plank]

ah right i forgot the astral meteor can fall down 2 block holes

for some reason

agree that this is a bug tho not a feature

[neat thunder]

i am nearly done with the conversion

[drowsy plank]

also you can just buy astral solution and a clentaminator from the steampunker for now

since she sells it anywhere

[neat thunder]

The post is now added to #1052323733961977947 and i will be deleting the version in #suggestions-posting

thanks again for the guidance

[tame vigil]

This is doable, we can simply use the system we use for resource packs for blood and gore disabled

[novel belfry]

they actually look different?

intersting

oh

god

[quaint carbon]

Thanks for even humoring it

Wasn’t sure if I was just a wuss

[tawdry trout]

oh damn, yeah they are quite disturbing

fits the boc theme rly well, fckin with your brain type things, it just does it too well xd

[velvet jungle]

has make a buff station for rogues been asked alot?

[half imp]

Yes

[hollow shell]

I didn't even know the BoC illusions had differing appearances like that, I just winged it

(Sounds cool though, I'll look closer next time)
But yeah if they're really gross body horror type stuff then tying it to that option sounds fair

[hollow shell]

It's one of the most frequent suggestions

Can't remember what was holding the devs back on that

[drowsy plank]

rogue being completely unbalanced perhaps

the plan is still to turn stealth into focus so there's no reason to add a station when the fundamental mechanics are going to change so much

[grim tusk]

tbh with how long will that take, adding a statioun wouldnt hurt

if they want a stat to be minor enough maybe just +5 stealth or smth

[whole tundra]

@gloomy steppe That is not a suggestion

[tepid crown]

@gloomy steppe the suggestions channel is for stuff in game, you should dm @sonic torrent instead

[gloomy steppe]

Of course, thank you for informing me.

Deleted the post to not mess anything up too, since I literally just joined.

[drowsy plank]

@minor hornet i feel like this would fit better in #1052323733961977947 as an oversight

providing logs feels very pertinent to this kind of request so the devs can actually understand what might be causing the slowdown for your machine

cause if it isn't causing a slowdown on their's then

it would be sort of hard to figure out how to improve a non-existent slowdown

[grim tusk]

Good luck Raesh or whomever handles that, the guy prob has 40+ mods

[minor hornet]

how can I provide a log? I´m new to this stuff

how do I generate one?

[drowsy plank]

go to #1052323733961977947 because it already tells you how because you need a link to submit a bug report in the first place; check the pinned thread

@velvet marsh this is already in voting

#suggestions-voting message

[minor hornet]

ok, thanks! I´ll do that

[hollow shell]

byeah

[crude geode]

Rogue and summoner are infamous for this. It doesn’t really stop people from complaining about not having whips/buff station

The buff station is at least easy to add without needing a ton of work

[mystic sandal]

i like where this suggestion is at but non-rogue weapons should still deplete stealth

otherwise these would just be the obvious best option for rogue

[hollow hound]

Ah
But the tradeoff then is that you don't get the same rogue-focused damage buffs.

Sure, you might be using a rifle between stealth attacks, but your accessories aren't boosting them.

[mystic sandal]

eh, i mean its like fine anyways? your damage mainly comes from accessories

[hollow hound]

It's the same thing with using a summoning weapon in any other class.

[mystic sandal]

dark matter sheath sure as hell isnt leaving your loadout, with or without astral

ig generally mixed class sets give less crit chance than rogue sets so they do have lower effective damage? kinda??

[gilded citrus]

Arent they planning that anyways

[hollow hound]

Yep.
The focus isn't on "doing a morbillion damage with every class on earth" just...
"I like this weapon, and this accessory's effect."

[hollow hound]

I couldn't find anything in the changelogs.

...Literally.

[crude geode]

Planning =/= implemented

[gilded citrus]

Changelogs include things implemented not planned
Look at the future content doc for focus for it iirc

[crude geode]

Yeah

[hollow hound]

My mistake, thank you kindly.

[gilded citrus]

#calamity-update-talk message

[drowsy plank]

i suppose i cant stop you from formatting a suggestion like this but developers usually vote based on just the title unless there is a really good reason for them to read the body of the suggestion

so

something to keep in mind

[gilded citrus]

I said focus

[hollow hound]

...Hmm.
Any more keywords I could try?

[gilded citrus]

Cause that the rename for stealth thats been brought up

[hollow hound]

Mhm.
The only thing mentioned is "the 2nd [Demonshade helmet will be shared by the ranger and rogue classes, it will give the option of focus strikes for ranged weapons."

So not quite what I'm suggesting, but I see it's relevance.

-# Man, they aren't giving hybrid armours any love.

[gilded citrus]

@boreal lichen sorry if this annoying but you handle the future content doc is the stealth stuff there or was it removed or never there…

[gilded citrus]

Hope they get more yeah

[boreal lichen]

wait what stealth stuff

wait like the changes to make it less split between spam and stealth?

[hollow hound]

Gem Tech clearly shows that the devs know it's a playstyle, as well as showing that they can make it fun as hell.
They just... Have other priorities.

[hollow hound]

Oh, the "focus flurries" business?

[gilded citrus]

The focus rename and it not requiring rogue armour to have access to the hard hitting
Or is 1 am midnight time vaporising my brain faster then i thought

[boreal lichen]

uh idk if i put everything into the doc but iirc maybe yeah

[hollow hound]

The only thing I can see is that the Demonshade Rogue helm will grant "Flurries" to Ranged weapons.

[gilded citrus]

If it is there where would it be then cause librarians suggest relates to stealth multiclass

[hollow hound]

...It still requires a Rogue helm.

[vocal wedge]

Damn 1am really is hitting you.

[gilded citrus]

Wanna know if this is smth planned by devs or not to tackle since if not yeah i support it

[gilded citrus]

You share my timezone stfu

[hollow hound]

And so do I, lmao.

[vocal wedge]

Skill issue.

[gilded citrus]

🔥

[vocal wedge]

Oh dear God, you're not... British are you!?

[boreal lichen]

uh idk havent really heard anything abt that

[gilded citrus]

Aight

[gilded citrus]

You are probably british

[vocal wedge]

I'm not.

WHAT DOES THE PROBABLY MEAN!?

[hollow hound]

Depends.
I was born there, but we were living in Albania at the time, so we went there straight after I was born followed by moving to Malta and then Uganda but at that poi-

*Fast forward 2 minutes.*

But the schooling was cheapest here, so here I am.

[gilded citrus]

Theres chance you are french

[vocal wedge]

I'm so sorry you have to be in Britain.

[hollow hound]

Me too TwT.

In any case. I might be British.

Depending entirely on what you define "British" as.

[vocal wedge]

Well, I believe Albania is the only one there that wasn't controlled by Britain at one point. So like, since they're NOT British anymore, that's -1 British points each.

And Albania is neutral as it was never British.

But Britain is +1 British as it's British.

So, that's -1 British points.

[crude geode]

The title of this sugg is such a shitpost that I think most devs will ignore it

[hollow hound]

Uh... Mind factoring in the rest then?
Uganda, Malawi, South Africa, the US.
(And Malta, in case you meant there instead of repeating "Albania" twice.)

[crude geode]

(This is not the channel for this discussion)

[vocal wedge]

Malta was British, South Africa and US famously were British, Malawi, you guessed it, was British controlled.

[hollow hound]

Fair point.

[hollow hound]

So should I entitle it "Give hybrid armours the following attributes:
Stealth, and "using any item that is not a rogue weapon will not consume stealth."
Instead?

Or would "Give hybrid armours (Crystal Assassin, Mollusk, Reaver, Astral, Omega Blue) the following attributes:
Stealth, and "using any item that is not a rogue weapon will not consume stealth."
Provide better context?

[glass arch]

something like "Make rogue able to actually multiclass" would be more succinct

[hollow hound]

..."Give hybrid armours Stealth, and 'using any item that is not a rogue weapon will not consume stealth.'"
could also work...

[hollow hound]

This isn't about Rogue multiclassing, this is about letting hybrid builds use stealth strikes pre-Gem Tech.

...Which may be the same thing, granted.

But the focus really is on hybrid armours.
Not Rogue armours.

[hollow hound]

Crystal Assassin lets you build stealth, but it's not actually fun.

[glass arch]

then "give hybrid armors access to stealth"

[crude geode]

^

[hollow hound]

<3.

[half imp]

@hollow hound stealth is being moved off armor onto rogue weapons instead in the future

so even if this passes it'll just get 🔒

[gilded citrus]

Oh called it

[hollow hound]

Thank you kindly for telling me!
This is still an absolute win for hybrid builds.

-# All that's left now is to wait and hope for better armour progression.

Like-
I can't emphasise enough how good it feels to use Gem-Tech and Astral at their given places in progression.

And while the rest of the time is fun, thanks to being able to use the weapons you want to-
It's tricky. You're wearing armour which is either behind in it's defence (Astral, Shadow/Crimson, Mollusk, Crystal Assassin) or is built to be a glass cannon (Omega Blue), when you're not building for damage.

So it lands in this strange sorta middle ground where you're having a great time, you just don't feel like you achieve much.

And then you hit Gem-Tech and it was all worth it!

-# Making the path there better would be nice though.

[oblique birch]

OMG REAL?

first time I've heard of this

if true that'll be so awesome

I was so tilted when some multiclass armors don't have stealth included

[golden sonnet]

I like archives platforms. I never modify them and think they are great for ceaseless

They aren't great for polter tho

[half imp]

Yeah I think they're already great as is

I use them as is for both polter and CV

[golden sonnet]

I'm not opposed to improving archives, but the reasoning of it being because it isn't a good or perfect arena I personally disagree with

[glass arch]

i disagree with it because theres a much more egregious example of a pregenerated structure intended to be used as an arena that isnt a great arena

its called vernal pass

[keen zodiac]

[craggy girder]

Vernal Pass is like a circle

the platforms in Archives are like

entirely random

theres barely any cohesion and you basically just destroy them when you build your own

[serene tendon]

But the vine ropes and platforms in the Vernal Pass also just exist to mess you up

[craggy girder]

i mean yeah

thats why i mentioned it

the stuff is very small and in ab asically straight line

for the archives, its also minimal but its more Random

it doesnt feel as Heartfully made it just feels Slapped Together because "yes we need Shelves Here"

both need like
Demolition

but one is a well looking box and the other is a box with an eye on the back of it

it dont look very good

[glass arch]

then use that as an argument and not

"it sucks as an arena"

[craggy girder]

it does without demoltion which i said

it also doesn't look visually cohesive; also said

[oblique birch]

Vernal Pass is worse to use as an arena than Archive

I've almost never changed or added anything for the Archive

Meanwhile Vernal Pass' middle island is a big pain

[craggy girder]

i havent seen issue with the middle island

its only if its in hardmode and its chlorophyte

[keen zodiac]

it can really fuck you up on pbg

plantera is infinitely cheeseable so it doesn't matter there

[craggy girder]

to be fair pbg fucks you up on pbg but i see what you mean

[keen zodiac]

true

[oblique birch]

PBG such a shitshow its minions need to die

Hate them so much

[half imp]

L take

[drowsy plank]

i havent checked on PBG in a while did you guys actually change the minions

[lucid marsh]

Hey so like

Hmm

[craggy girder]

wdym L take PBG in most peoples memories is Not Fun

[lucid marsh]

I don't know what to do about this Because I don't want to make a full bug report and dig up log files and do testing

[craggy girder]

unless you massively nerfed the amount of near invis enemies

[lucid marsh]

But someone needs to take a look at magic missile

Because it just shoots twice as many projectiles as it's supposed to

[oblique birch]

2? 4?

[lucid marsh]

Magic missile shoots 2 projectiles each use, one shortly after the other

[oblique birch]

Ye that's Calamity change

[lucid marsh]

It's resulting DPS is on par with weapons the tier after it

Oh huh

[oblique birch]

It's normal

[craggy girder]

its meant to be comparable to Flamelash

[lucid marsh]

It's better than flamelash by a lot

[oblique birch]

Magic Missile and Flamelash are sidegrades

Ye happens

[lucid marsh]

Well, maybe not that much better

Ah ok

[craggy girder]

Flamelash i think does more base damage with burn, but magic missile does more DPS

they should be comparable

[oblique birch]

Making weapons sidegrades often resulted in originally weaker one become the stronger

[lucid marsh]

I was surprised that it was better than the black anurian and as good as the nights ray

[oblique birch]

Handgun and Phoenix Blaster for example

[craggy girder]

nights ray i think is kinda hot ass iirc

its like b tier at best

[lucid marsh]

Nights ray is like probably comparable to nights edge I think

[quaint carbon]

My only issue with PBG was the amount of space I needed for her despite her being limited to the Jungle

[lucid marsh]

It's fairly good

[quaint carbon]

They already fixed attack visibility

[lucid marsh]

Like I'm not struggling at all with bosses so far and my weapons suck

Oh btw Amber staff is also like better than everything pre skeletron despite being pre boss

Same with thunder zapper

[craggy girder]

what

i dont think THATS supposed to happen

[oblique birch]

Tbh the normal stingers that she fire still kinda easy to miss

[craggy girder]

really my only issue with PBG is that their homing attacks are really really hard to see

[lucid marsh]

Amber staff and thunder zapper are about equal DPS, sometimes better or worse depending on situation. If you can manage the super low velocity, they're viable until skeletron

[oblique birch]

I just hate how all of her minions are just aggressive homing contact damage on glorpshit

Like it's so low effort and she spams so many of them all the time

[lucid marsh]

The aqua staff is worse than both of them

Or equal in best case scenario

But yeah. I found zero good or viable magic weapons between desert scourge and skeleton

[craggy girder]

what about P-PLS

[lucid marsh]

I didn't try it

[craggy girder]

then do so !!!

most of the reworked draedon arsenal is pretty good

i know uuuuh

[lucid marsh]

But isn't that aerialite

[craggy girder]

is Evil2 not between ds and skele

[lucid marsh]

Anyways I'm in hard mode now

It's on par with skeletron

I think

I don't have boss checklist because it causes bugs I heard

[keen zodiac]

evil2 is post evil1 pre skeletron

[lucid marsh]

Ok

I couldn't tell that just by playing it though lol

Skeletron gave me more trouble than hive mind with the same equipment IIRC

Hard to remember exactly how it happened

[urban berry]

Ok that change for Brain makes a lot of sense and it kinda should be added regardless of if it gets traction

[quaint carbon]

Thank you, I hope so too :)

[hollow hound]

I agree, but I do have to ask, why play Crimson in the first place?

[quaint carbon]

The Crimson aesthetic was never that bad

If anything I find Corruption worse. The eyeballs of Corruptors fly off on their own when killed with blood and gore enabled and that shit’s gross, especially with their vomit green gore.

[hollow hound]

I see.

[fathom cedar]

Hey! Does anybody knows what can i do to decrease my health? Ive been playing infernum before big update and i was just curious why calamitas gives me some tasks, so i quickly did all of them in my other world so she gave me some crazy buffs. Is there a way to downgrade my character? Cuz now im literally deathless

[keen zodiac]

1: extremely wrong chat
2: uninstall calamity overhaul, it's malware

[gilded citrus]

Wai huh its moved to malware now

[keen zodiac]

i've been calling it malware for months

because it intentionally corrupts files, that makes it malicious software

[gilded citrus]

Oh fair

[fathom cedar]

Yeah it helped thanks a lot. Btw why its malware i thought its an official mod

[keen zodiac]

very unofficial

[gilded citrus]

Only vanilla calamity music mod is a official addon of calamity every other addon is technically fan made

And yeah cal overhaul would be the least official one ever

[fathom cedar]

Thats sad, it looked pretty intresting. Thanks for help

Oh and last thing. Can i somehow summon Goozma if i playing with wraith of gods? Cuz the slime rain wont starting even with ninja statue after the winter started

[gilded citrus]

#calamity-addon-talk is a better place to ask for addon stuff in general
Havent played wotg so i cant help you there

[fathom cedar]

Got it, thank you

[spare bison]

Made it too long

😭

[keen zodiac]

@spare bison title and body can only have 1 space between

i don't think it's too long?

[spare bison]

Ah wait

It might be that

[indigo yacht]

intentionally?

[keen zodiac]

it was a bug but the creator refuses to fix it despite knowing

[indigo yacht]

that's not malware

that's just negligence

[keen zodiac]

no it's very intentional

[indigo yacht]

malware is created with the intention of causing harm

if the dev is refusing to fix a bug that causes problems they're being negligent

it doesn't make the mod malware

[keen zodiac]

malware is literally just a portmanteau of "malicious software"

[gilded citrus]

Id consider leaving absurdly bad bugs like that borderline malicious

[keen zodiac]

they don't refuse to fix it because they're lazy, they refuse to fix it because they want to keep it

[indigo yacht]

why

[keen zodiac]

that's malicious

[keen zodiac]

because it only triggers when you disable the mod

[indigo yacht]

you should lead with that next time

do you have proof

[keen zodiac]

proof: it has happened to many people
ask one of them

[indigo yacht]

that is just not proof of malicious intent

i know the bug happens

I've helped people with it before

I'm tired of people making up grievances against overhaul because all it does is make the actual problems the mod has seem less important, we don't need to make things up for cal overhaul to be a shitshow it already is one

which is why I'm asking

[keen zodiac]

there was a message from the creator but i don't have the screenshot

[indigo yacht]

that's good enough for me

[keen zodiac]

it may be too long

[indigo yacht]

you can just remove the first paragraph

is this sis

i think it's probably against the rules

in any case the immediate solution is to buff molten fury not to add another fucking weapon

[spare bison]

@jade crane Specific item suggestions aren't allowed

[indigo yacht]

also there is no reason to restrict it to rev, especially since there's no precedent for that to do with weapons

[spare bison]

Yeah i dont think theres literally any rev exclusive items n the mod except for some cosmetics ?

[indigo yacht]

there are the three accessories, the upgrades, and yeah

four accessories technically

[spare bison]

Oh yeah the adrenaline/rage upgrades

and the darkest dungeon accessories 😭

[jade crane]

I checked they are allowed.

[indigo yacht]

again, debatable, but your suggestion has no reasoning so it doesn't matter anyways

or rather

the reasoning is faulty

why should boc have a rev only bow instead of just buffing molten fury or whatever

[gilded citrus]

Isnt calamity trying to stay away from difficulty specific gear for the most part

Hence why like every expert item doesnt need expert

[crude geode]

I mean

[indigo yacht]

Also are we just going to pretend tendon bow doesn't exist

[indigo yacht]

that got removed

[gilded citrus]

Oh ok

[crude geode]

We just added expert items back in but that’s different from rev

[indigo yacht]

but there are only 4 accessories locked to rev mode right now

there is one weapon locked to death mode but iirc it's a donor weapon

[crude geode]

Tendon bow is post eoc

[indigo yacht]

it's a bow that you get from boc

[golden sonnet]

It is in the don'ts section

[gilded citrus]

Pre eoc
Gold pick can mine naturally occurring evil ore iirc

[crude geode]

Either way it’s not post boc/eow

[gilded citrus]

Trur

[indigo yacht]

it's still a bow you get from boc

[gilded citrus]

They are asking for a specifically post boc bow not just a bow using evil bars

[crude geode]

Anyways

Rev specific weapons were removed a long time ago and I highly doubt they’re coming back

[indigo yacht]

this channel is literally the embodiment of "i like pancakes" "so you hate waffles?"

[indigo yacht]

there's also no reasoning as to why it should be rev locked

[crude geode]

Mostly bc the concept of making them actual challenges or exploration based is much more interesting than play on this difficulty for this weapon

It just kinda. sucks that the only real example we have so far (iirc) is SHPC

[indigo yacht]

also i think it's kind of lame to force people who want to play classic or whatever to play rev or else miss out on equipment options

[jade crane]

I just wanted it to be rev+ exclusive since the revamped brain is also rev+. It would be a reward for doing this more challenging version of the fight.

[indigo yacht]

https://tenor.com/view/uncanny-cat-uncanny-valley-dark-wtf-gif-14708455975531353777

[tepid crown]

"add a reforge to violently murder all sense of summon balancing"

[indigo yacht]

@calm knot this isn't inherently a bad idea but it would completely annihilate all semblance of class balance

[calm knot]

I Know

[crude geode]

“Add a reforge that is equivalent to half the summoner accessories themselves, because we have one for mage that is completely useless”

[calm knot]

i didn't say it was a good suggestion

it's a suggestion

[tepid crown]

not useless anymore it has 2% damage and 2% mana cost reduction and also chaos stone exists now!!

[calm knot]

[crude geode]

[sleek turret]

welcome back old calamity summoner slot scaling

[tepid crown]

true actually

[calm knot]

whar

[tepid crown]

summoner accs and armours used to have a lot more slots

[frail fox]

Cooking

[crude geode]

It used to be like 20 or something

[sleek turret]

we're talking about 15 slots on DoG

[calm knot]

ohhhh

wow

[tepid crown]

there should be a minion that only takes 0.1 slots or whatever so you can summon a fuck ton

i think old herring did smthn like that but yknow

[gilded citrus]

It was one dropped by polter

Pretty funny

And it was uh 0.2 iirc

[sleek turret]

spider staff used to be like 0.8 minion slots

[gilded citrus]

Isnt it still smth like that

[sleek turret]

it might have changed in 1.4.5

[calm knot]

i thought they made it like .5

[tepid crown]

subjugator?

it got changed in uhhh

2.0.2? i think?

from the ashes

[gilded citrus]

Well you know i first played before that update thrn

[tepid crown]

(same update that made them good iirc)

[sleek turret]

Changed since 1.4.0.1

[gilded citrus]

Oh weird

[sleek turret]

It used to be 0.75 minion slots in 1.3.0.1 onwards

[tame vigil]

i'm adding this

[gilded citrus]

😨

[tardy geyser]

I think buff other reforges to +10% for balance

[tame vigil]

friendly will be real

[sleek turret]

blade staff meta

[kind laurel]

If a reforge were to have this it would probably have to be "if every single accessory is reforged to this you get a minion slot"

[crude geode]

Belladonna nerfed to 1 damage and -100 armor penetration

[tame vigil]

@eternal escarp i see you

[calm knot]

we are so back

[eternal escarp]

its not ike im hidin g

i AM however, stalking

[tardy geyser]

That doesnt even sound like enough tbh, another minion would be like +20%

[eternal escarp]

[tame vigil]

actually, you all are right. it would be too powerful

summoner does need an exclusive reforge though. minion knockback it is

[kind laurel]

Warding needs to still be broken so let's give it 100% DR (ignoring Cal's decay)

[tardy geyser]

True

[calm knot]

i can accept this

[eternal escarp]

+1 tag damage on whips

[sleek turret]

extra summon tag reforge 🚎

[eternal escarp]

i said it first

get snailed

[tepid crown]

Belladonna nerfed to 1 damage and -100 armor penetration

[eternal escarp]

deserved

[sleek turret]

blade staff meta

[tame vigil]

i stole this joke by the way

[tepid crown]

ignore the fact that belladonna doesnt shit out a fuckton of projectiles anymore

[kind laurel]

Belladonna gives a debuff that regens the enemy's HP

[eternal escarp]

just take the credit

smh

[drowsy plank]

mmm im just gonna flag this we already know how this goes

actually there is a reason for this

[tall isle]

Shouldn't the fungal clump be nerfed back?

The healing is ridiculous and by far best pre hm accessory

[drowsy plank]

@calm knot you cant give details on the implementation, you can ask for a summoner accessory reforge, but you cant say exactly what it should do

[tall isle]

Summon crit chance +3%?

[drowsy plank]

if you wanted to use a slot as a (bad) example, that's fine, but this isnt allowed

[tall isle]

Or summon hitspeed increase

[crude geode]

Wdym Sunny’s literally adding it, it gets a 🛠️

/j

[drowsy plank]

explode forever

[crude geode]

[calm knot]

i apologize i didn't know

[half imp]

hear me out

+0.1 minion slots

[calm knot]

[north oracle]

friendly

[golden sonnet]

0.2, thus with 5 accessories you can get a single extra slot

[errant wren]

accompanying reforge on summoner weapons which reduces slot usage in exchange for damage

[dense locust]

wait true?

[tepid crown]

what

[plush flame]

1: no joke suggs
2: wait shes cooking????

[lost spire]

I'm only half joking

[drowsy plank]

@lost spire no joke suggestions

[boreal lichen]

is this peak?

[lost spire]

he should be able to kick you

he deserves it

[gilded citrus]

🔥?

[oblique birch]

ok I know this a joke sugg but it's genuinely cooking tho

it's fucking Skeletron he should be more zany and based

[lost spire]

it would make the fight so much cooler

I even have the sprites

[keen zodiac]

😭

[crude geode]

His pelvis has eyes

[oblique birch]

ok maybe not

that

why even includes the Pelvis he doesn't even have shoulder bones 😭

[plush flame]

would you rather have 1 bone

or 2 bones

[keen zodiac]

or a torso

[grim tusk]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1072667620882522136/1465735318308393048/SPOILER_image.png?ex=69948de3&is=69933c63&hm=b06309265e44301bf83510e35d7e73953d15a84ef61c6cd2f658758cab2755d3&

wdym we need minion slot reforges?

theres already one

[boreal lichen]

🙏

we will crucify xyk for this one

[indigo yacht]

this is the best suggestion I've ever seen

[keen zodiac]

goog suggestion

[lucid marsh]

also wait why the hell does the axe of purity not inherit the feller of evergreen's effects?