suggestions-discussion

[vocal moth]

i agree

people are really mean and shouldnt be

[keen zodiac]

it's a dope ass accessory instead

eternal exchange

[fleet grotto]

benefits every class except mage

[keen zodiac]

🔥

[worthy lintel]

i think summoner should have zero defenses and take mirror damage from using whips

☕

[tired haven]

Well thats one way to enable self-damage builds

[keen zodiac]

how suggestionful

[dire warren]

meow

[vocal moth]

: (

wbenifits mage and lowers damage negation by 50% but ups damage 1.5x

[indigo yacht]

i have no idea why that sent here

[royal tapir]

I sure wonder why, the meower

[frozen kite]

if we add the -im to the tracers the world will explode and we all will die

[half imp]

nothing is stopping me from just

Doing both

[keen zodiac]

right i forgor there's technically no limit

[obsidian nova]

Hear me out
What if we add another bot
With a cataclysm pfp (yes this is important )
That after each suggestion reposts a special message telling users to read pins?
(Inspired by the LTP (looking to play) channel bot from the official Terraria server)
What could possibly go wrong

[frail mantle]

no

[obsidian nova]

I will be swapping your eyeballs and teeth.

[errant wren]

it has been over 12 hours why did you reply to that

[humble scarab]

hes always like this

prob living on mars

[errant wren]

i meant specifically with a ping

[indigo yacht]

definitely doesn't help that most of the debates in this channel are brain-melting because then it's just positive reinforcement

[keen zodiac]

just ignore it

he only talks in the past

[obsidian nova]

I will be swapping my teeth and eyeballs?

Yeah, how ironic that this is like the one out of like five accessories that calamity doesn't add a crafting recipe for

Mfw jellyfishes are way more common in the caves than in the ocean
Ironic isn't it

[gilded citrus]

Hasnt even realised i went from lea spores to mark spores to this

[obsidian nova]

As a self proclaimed Gunvolt fan this suggestion makes me very happy

[coral carbon]

gunvolt, ,,

[obsidian nova]

I will turn your spores into smores

[last shard]

Planetoid Lab my beloved needs the love and attention

[keen zodiac]

all labs are being remodeled in sso already

[last shard]

oh

i thought it was just the SS one that was being remodeled

[crude geode]

@inland saddle bot is kill

[inland saddle]

No errors from discord or anything just lost connection for the love of the game

[gaunt crystal]

oh hello dev I've never seen before

[inland saddle]

It’s back

[vocal wedge]

I guess this is the first time you've gotten a hit on them.

[gaunt crystal]

can I ask what you do for the mod's development?

[inland saddle]

I’m a programmer

[crude geode]

Sugg bot LOVES dying for absolutely no reason

[prisma sedge]

I think that's just a Discord bot thing in general

[gaunt crystal]

pog have this fox

[prisma sedge]

Tupper bot just decides to not work for some reason sometimes

[inland saddle]

Holy based

[inland saddle]

Yeah the bot program was still running and everything it just wasn’t connected lol

No errors from discord or anything

[half imp]

@last shard this is already being planned on being done

not that you need to delete it but it'll just be locked once in voting

[gaunt crystal]

oh another dev I've never seen before

[crude geode]

New gen moment

[half imp]

I've seen you before though

[gaunt crystal]

may I ask what you do for the mod's development?

[prisma sedge]

No

[half imp]

I program

all sorts of things

[vocal wedge]

I'm sure I've seen you say you haven't seen this very developer before.

[gaunt crystal]

pog have this bnnuy

[prisma sedge]

...given this new information, I'd like to put in my application for a dev role

[half imp]

too bad

[prisma sedge]

Damn, cold and heartless...

[half imp]

cold... heart...

what if coldheart icicle could be shot from dart guns

[crude geode]

It’s almost as if…doze has some kind of icicle

[prisma sedge]

...Colddart...okay yeah, that's ingenious

[gaunt crystal]

reminds me of an idea for an arrow I had

well

"arrow"

it's for a ballista type weapon that scales off rocket launcher and bow damage boosts

[prisma sedge]

Was it something like the icicle arrow?

[gaunt crystal]

might still make it for my add-on

not sure

[last shard]

Unironically would be busted even for Shadowspec

Imagine using that and getting the % damage just while the icicle is inside any target

Each time the projectile updates

That'd be some extreme output at any level for boss rush, especially on bosses with large boxes like worms, the slime based ones, and Levi/Anahita

[last shard]

Imagine if doze types of ammo really existed

It'd be some kind of calamity

[vocal wedge]

Counterpoint: Getting Coldheart Icicle.

[half imp]

^

Especially if it's consumable

farming coldheart icicles

Just for like, 3% dmg each shot at best

[prisma sedge]

...y'know yeah, this actually sounds like an awesome idea

[golden sonnet]

For transparency, the latest suggestion will get a reaction the second it hits voting

Due to change logs #643

[drowsy plank]

50 coldhearts icicles in void bag = guaranteed killed with rapid fire weapon

[fleet grotto]

why in void bag

[crude geode]

I think if you defeat 50 permafrost you deserve to do whatever

[tepid crown]

they dont stack

[fleet grotto]

but what about all my other goid bag goodies!!!!!

[crude geode]

Practice inventory management

[prisma sedge]

It's like beating Noxus (or Avatar of Emptiness now) in WotG, it just lets you delete anything you want since why not at that point?

[tardy geyser]

Make the planetoid lab into an o neil cylinder iirc

[craggy girder]

isnt it a nohit reward

also doesnt it not work on AoE nor NDoL

[drowsy plank]

it's not random

[tepid crown]

@bleak karma its not random, theyre trying to line up with you and get into position before initiating the dash

which is why they always dash when you stop moving

[craggy girder]

you can actually stall them! which. is kinda a bad thing tbh

its not random but they really should make them just dash eventually

[prisma sedge]

It seems like it's just a regular reward, 100% chance to drop too

[north oracle]

Most of them do iirc (hence why PBG can vertical dash sometimes)

There's just some that don't for some reason

[prisma sedge]

But yeah, it doesn't work on a select few enemies, it just deletes everything short of Solyn, the two big bosses, and certain entities that are supposed to be invincible

[umbral gazelle]

big boss

invincible

[thin lake]

yay my suggestion is in voting phase

even though new dart-based weaponry is still heavily being considered by the devs already

[glass arch]

well not really its being considered by one dev

[half imp]

true

[grim tusk]

revival of charged dart blaster?!

[mystic sandal]

So was Old Duke and that got added

[keen zodiac]

yeah but unfortunately that one dev was fabsol

[humble scarab]

and he didnt cared about other devs opinions

[gloomy umbra]

I remember hearing this, but don't know the details. Why was he obsessed with the old Duke?

[keen zodiac]

it was originally proposed as a sulphur sea reskin of duke fishron (not a new boss) that made the fight harder but dropped 3 treasure bags
then fab decided to make it its own boss without anybody's input and ignored all the devs telling him it was a terrible idea

[obsidian nova]

So, guys, what are we thinking about this suggestion?

[indigo yacht]

nothing

[keen zodiac]

i mean yeah it should already be in the game

the hell is there to say about it

[grave wagon]

0/10

[indigo yacht]

flip icicle arrow ahh suggestion

[misty lichen]

the game would go viral

[sour lagoon]

Got question

About dreadron

How many labs i can find?

Found under dessert and in sky

[humble scarab]

Better ask in #help-advice-read-pins but every biome have one

Beside abyss

[onyx meadow]

Desert
The water biome under desert i forgot the name
Hell
Sky
Jungle
Ice
More that i forgot

[sour lagoon]

I have schematic sunken sea

[onyx meadow]

Just search up heat seeking in the recipe browser

[sour lagoon]

It say if i hold it, permanently unlock recipe

[humble scarab]

Heat seeking mechanisms shows you the way to the specific labs

[sour lagoon]

I picked it up

[humble scarab]

One of schematics is already decrypted

[sour lagoon]

So What i need is decrypt other shcematics

Taser and pulse pistol sound really good

[indigo yacht]

why are we talking about this in #suggestions-discussion

[humble scarab]

Craft the base computer and then every decrypted schematic allows you to craft upgrade for the pc to decrypt another schematic. Every schematic have in their tooltip written what you need

[humble scarab]

Im suprised he asked here and asked him to move

[humble scarab]

If you have any other questions ask here #help-advice-read-pins

[drowsy plank]

@lost jay you're not focusing on the why

why do wulfrum enemies need an upgrade later in progression? they're early game mobs

this is basically entirely an outline of how and not why so it's not a valid suggestion; implementation is supposed to be left up to the devs, not you

i can remove the lock once you've changed the suggestion to fit the format

instead of responding to this you should just update your suggestion

[hollow shell]

Has it now been edited?

(Didn't see the original if so)

[crude geode]

It has been yes

[vocal wedge]

If we're talking lore, how do you justify the mass produced fodder/distraction enemies having stronger versions.

[errant wren]

they did exercise obviously

[vocal wedge]

I don't think they were haunted.

[indigo yacht]

this suggestion looks fine now

i think

[olive saddle]

i think old duke had potential but it reached literally none of it

[vocal wedge]

Potential Fish.

[keen zodiac]

true

[olive saddle]

shitty to actually reach
shitty to refight
terrible fight
worst part? actually good drops

also terribly told mechanics

maybe 2% of people know old duke has an exhaust mechanic

[crude geode]

good drops in that they were unique and interesting? Or good as in meta/dps

[olive saddle]

good as in they're decent dps wise and the scales are very unique

not meta dps but decent

unless they got nerfed

they probs did

[glass arch]

the mechanic actually works as intended now

[indigo yacht]

it is the most common thing I hear people talking about when they discuss old duke

besides people complaining about the boss that is

[olive saddle]

i didnt say it didnt work. its just very poorly told.

[glass arch]

it used to be on like a 5 attack basis or something like that iirc
which meant exhaustion rarely lined up on a break in old dukes pattern in phase 2

[crude geode]

[olive saddle]

i have literally never seen this

did they improve the readability in bountiful harvest?

[indigo yacht]

no

[olive saddle]

huh

regardless, lotta wasted potential on old duke, but whaddya expect from fab

[glass arch]

ok no it was on a 10 attack basis

now its 12 which means it doesnt get exhaustion in the middle of dashes

[dense ferry]

DEATH

NO WULFRUM

[boreal lichen]

literally 1984

[dense ferry]

I'm so tired

Of Wulfrum expansion

[glad tundra]

when will people start suggesting to remove wulfrum content

[frail mantle]

now

[errant wren]

post-exo wulfrum content

i'll literally die

[tepid crown]

Remove John Wulfrum references
it is NOT funny i fucking HATE john wulfrum he shouldve NEVER been added to calamity mod he is a poor excuse of a thought FUCK JOHN WULFRUM

[frail mantle]

see i know what i'm talking about

[drowsy plank]

if you want to ping rover we could add it to the explict don'ts on the doc

[craggy girder]

wulfrum is just a very very finnicky metal i think

[dense ferry]

Oh no I just think Wulfrum expansion suggs are stupid as fuck

I am not particularly bothered by them

[craggy girder]

how do i phrase this.

wulfrum is flimsy and cheap, correct

i presume its based around a not flimsy and cheap metal

being able to see that not flimsy and cheap metal in combat action would be neat

(and have it do unique stuff LIKE wulfrum, but not be just "haha wulfrum drone pt2"

[north oracle]

What what since when lmao

Damn

[craggy girder]

and/or just tie wulfrum into mysterious circuits and dubious plating somehow

i somewhat agree with the fact that wulfrum is useful preboss and then is never used again

[vocal wedge]

Which are Draedon themed items, which Wulfrum isn't.

[craggy girder]

is it really not related

i thought they were basically made of aluminum and kinda just swarmers

[vocal wedge]

If anything it's tungsten.
Wulfrum was made by people who opposed Yharim.
Draedon was one of his allies.
Doesn't make sense for Draedon stuff to be conflated with Wulfrum stuff.

[craggy girder]

mmmmmm i see

upgraded wulfrum gear that uses flatly better tech to make old wulfrum weapons maybe usefuller

[vocal wedge]

But then it's not Wulfrum, it's Wulfrum inspired.

[craggy girder]

they coded some really cool weapons to not be able to use them in the cool part of the game

[serene tendon]

Wait, Wulfrum was made by people opposing Yharim? I also thought they were built by Draedon, not sure how that one flew over my head

[vocal wedge]

Man, if only there was a document explaining stuff like that. It sure would be handy, especially if it was pinned somewhere.

Also Draedon would never be happy with such shoddy work. No wonder he doesn't comment on it, to him it must look like scrap metal blowing in the wind.

[serene tendon]

Does it... say so anywhere ingame?

[vocal wedge]

Yes.

Bestiary.

[serene tendon]

Oh derp, guess I need to check that sometime lol

[vocal wedge]

'The most simple of the Wulfrum Machines, and the honorary mascot of those who rebelled against Yharim. Its small stature and eager movements may remind some of a dog, but don't be deceived; in the chaos of battle, a Rover is still dangerous.'
-Wulfrum Rover.

[serene tendon]

I'm just used to vanilla where there really isn't anything to see there

[serene tendon]

Alr cool I'll take a read sometime

[craggy girder]

that thing is a mess that i cannot be bothered to read
its not ordered chronologically, but alphabetically

this refers to both

[vocal wedge]

What?

[craggy girder]

bestiary only orders itself by groups and by name

theres no document that shows when and why things were made that does not involve me scrolling through bestiary entries

[vocal wedge]

...Bestiary isn't a document. I was making a joke about the lore document(s).
Bestiary also isn't in chronological order because it isn't a list of events, it's a description of things.
It's like asking for a restaurant menu in chronological order.

[craggy girder]

i want a timeline

[tepid crown]

bestiary isnt even sorted by alphabetical

[vocal wedge]

...the lore document.
It has a timeline.

[craggy girder]

last i checked it doesn ot

[vocal wedge]

...the other one.

[craggy girder]

it just lists every bit of lore possible

helpful as always

[tepid crown]

can you like

[plucky pasture]

isn't that the point of a "lore doc"

[tepid crown]

stop being a wanna be smartass already

hdfailure

[craggy girder]

ive read two lore docs
one just lists every item that has lore relating to calamitys lore
the other was the same just more expansive

at no time did i see a timeline of events

[vocal wedge]

Then you didn't read the new one.

Which has a timeline as the second section.

[craggy girder]

can i see it

[tepid crown]

^

like dude its not that hard to check

its pinned in lore discussion

[craggy girder]

"its not that hard to check" fifteen unnamed links

[tepid crown]

its the top pin of lore discussion and has an embed

[vocal wedge]

It is the first one.
And it's labelled.

[tepid crown]

😭

[vocal wedge]

Look for 'LORE DOCUMENT 2: ELECTRIC BOOGALOO'.

[craggy girder]

and i wasnt just directed to that first instead of being belittled why

[vocal wedge]

You were.

[craggy girder]

you just said "the lore document"

as if i knew what that was or where it was held

[vocal wedge]

Well. I mentioned it was pinned.

And it stands to reason a lore document would be held in lore discussion.

[tepid crown]

_ _

[craggy girder]

coin gun is a post wof weapon, it would stand to reason that its useful up until plantera

despite this,

that document coulda been literally anywhere for all i knew

[vocal wedge]

No correlation.

[glass arch]

#changelogs message

ok so actually not in yet i forgot that those logs were for sso

not gonna lie i thought it was like 2 years ago

[frail fox]

2 years ago (once sso is finally out)

[errant wren]

sso when it

[fleet grotto]

insert image of brutally mutilated amidias

[errant wren]

what

[vocal wedge]

Insert image of lovingly rejuvinated Amidias, ready to face the future.

[fleet grotto]

Booring

[vocal wedge]

That's it, you're banned from the Amidias fan club.

[fleet grotto]

I was never part of it don't worry

[north oracle]

lmao

ok

so

[frail fox]

Whips

[north oracle]

@fiery oyster first of all, whips are already planned

On top of that though, Specific Item Suggestions (suggestions which present a specific item you want to see added to the game) are explicitly not allowed. Please check the pinned doc for the suggestion rules.

In general, suggestions should present a problem you see in the mod, not provide ideas on how to fix it.

[frail fox]

It's also way too long but yeah

[fiery oyster]

👍

Understood

[north oracle]

(oh true suggs are also limited to 1k characters iirc)

[fiery oyster]

[umbral gazelle]

oh and uhhhh many of these name are already used by other weapon

Scourge of the Corruption is used by vanilla javelin i think

[proper basin]

mmmm spine of thanatos

[fiery oyster]

No, thats scourge of the corruptor

I did that on purpose

[fiery oyster]

Read the notes

[umbral gazelle]

ah

[proper basin]

i did lol

[fiery oyster]

Should I delete it

Or will it be killed when the day ends

[umbral gazelle]

durendal is mispelled

its supposed to be Durandal i think

[north oracle]

up to you, you might as well

[fiery oyster]

No

[fiery oyster]

Fair enough

[proper basin]

also i just realized these are balanced around current whips which makes it funnier

[tardy geyser]

i think instead of making spine of thanatos a whip, they should add spine of thanos

[north oracle]

whips in cal are uh. not balanced at all

[proper basin]

tag damage being multiplicative

instead of flat damage

[fiery oyster]

Wait I'm stupid

[plush flame]

kaleidoscope is top 2 weapons in cal

[fiery oyster]

Yeah that kinda makes sense ngl

[plush flame]

not sure if its better than glorious end though

[fiery oyster]

Halibut Cannon

[plush flame]

halibut is like bottom 5 for its tier

iirc

[fiery oyster]

Funny

[north oracle]

^
easy top 1 vanilla, way easier to use than glorious end/hellborn and not coin gun

[plush flame]

ah no bottom 7

[proper basin]

from what i remember i think every whip before destroyer was weaker than kalei off of raw tag bonus

[fiery oyster]

Was it at least a good idea

[north oracle]

adding whips? yea

[proper basin]

devourer*

[north oracle]

the specific ideas being themed around worms leaves a lot of gaps in progression, and oversaturates tiers that are already busy

[umbral gazelle]

actually it can technically be sss+++ since you can obtain it in "early hardmode"

[fiery oyster]

There is lots of worms

I think they're evenly spread

[plush flame]

its balanced around postgame

[proper basin]

you can obtain the other shadowspec weapons pre wof, thus making this irrelevant anyways

[fiery oyster]

How

[plush flame]

wofless

also transmutation

[fiery oyster]

Oh wait

[proper basin]

actually wait can you get ascensant spirit essence pre wof

[plush flame]

no

[frail fox]

Go ahead and get it in early hardmode and you earn it

[plush flame]

no eclipse

[proper basin]

does shadowspec need that

[plush flame]

iirc no

[fiery oyster]

WOFless ≠ Pre-Hardmode gear

[plush flame]

just auric, prisms, and annihilation ashes

[proper basin]

it doesnt we're so up

[north oracle]

wofless boss rush

[proper basin]

insane skip ≠ early hardmode tier

[north oracle]

(you can't do it WoF is in boss rush)

[plush flame]

having to deal with the lagspike on cryogen

[tardy geyser]

so true, all of dukes weapons are sss+++ too because you can fight him pre boss

[proper basin]

meteor after aureus

[fiery oyster]

Guys let's go back to #calamity-mod-talk

🙂

[proper basin]

No.

[fiery oyster]

We've drifted far past my suggestion

[umbral gazelle]

TRUE

[thin lake]

also keep in mind 1.4.5 has at least seven additional whips throughout the game before post-ML

that's why i haven't made any whip suggestions cause there may be a new post-Golem whip along the same tier as Morning Star and Kaleidescope that serves a unique purpose

and whips already kinda break Calamity's balance a bit imo

[north oracle]

making whip suggestions at the moment is already a terrible idea, because cal already plans to add some

[drowsy plank]

^

[north oracle]

thus "add whips" is pointless, and "add this whip" is a SIS

[drowsy plank]

that also

[thin lake]

also iirc there will be one post-ML whip which resembles the Stardust gear

[north oracle]

ML also appears to be getting a whip drop iirc

[thin lake]

so Cal can wait until 1.4.5 comes out to see how Vanilla handles it and use it as a base for Calamity

but yeah i'm not super concerned about whips right now

[thin lake]

also i say this cause using something like an offhand slot mod can let you extremely easily bypass the summon damage penalty when playing as a hybrid

[glass arch]

or cal is just gonna rebalance it all anyways

[thin lake]

true

[north oracle]

using an external mod is entirely discounted for cal balancing lol

[glass arch]

yeah

even without that whips still break cals balance

[north oracle]

if you want an extra 25% damage on your summons that's great, it's not cal's problem tho

[thin lake]

in my personal opinion i think a 25% reduction while not holding/using a summoner class weapon is a bit harsh but it's not like i can't remedy it with potions and bewitched

[north oracle]

it's not strong enough. multiclassing with another weapon is nearly always better than using a whip

[glass arch]

^

[north oracle]

and cal hasn't even nerfed whips yet

[glass arch]

25% reduction is still 75% damage on something designed and balanced to be able to stand on its own as a weapon used in conjunction with something else also designed and balanced to be able to stand on its own as a weapon

[thin lake]

i don't disagree, but like. taking extra steps to prepare for bosses should be rewarding, not punishing.

[north oracle]

it's not an extra step to ignore getting a whip in favour of any random weapon

you shouldn't be rewarded for using an easy to use ranger weapon over the class's mechanic

[thin lake]

i feel like there could be a 2% damage penalty per minion slot currently on the player for all non-summoner weapons

outside of VERY specific armor sets

[glass arch]

thats not enough

[north oracle]

gotta love a permanent 2% damage reduction as a mechanic

[thin lake]

well outside of the default first slot

ofc

[north oracle]

byea no the summon damage penalty serves the purpose perfectly, it's just not strong enough rn

[glass arch]

2% per slot is only a 6% reduction in damage assuming you have 3 slots

which is very easy because base + potions gets you 3

[north oracle]

if you have a summon out the boss heals hp every second equal to that summon's dps

[thin lake]

that'd be a nightmare to code LOL

[glass arch]

not as much as youd think

[thin lake]

could also be possible to have a set penalty applied to certain outlier summon weapons when they aren't used with an actual summoner armor set

[north oracle]

this is not specific outliers, it applies to every summon

if we identify extreme outliers... we balance them

[thin lake]

pole warper

like honestly gut pole warper a bit

[glass arch]

the easiest workaround is to multiply summoner damage by -1 on hit so it functions as healing equal to the summons dps while also nullifying the summons damage

[thin lake]

it's insane

[thin lake]

unless they're using summoner armor right

[glass arch]

no even if they're using summoner armor

fuck you summoner

[north oracle]

that would stop summoner from being powerful yea

[thin lake]

what the hell did the class do to you bro 😭

i just wanna do cool build setups

[glass arch]

be too good for too long

[thin lake]

okay i will be real

[fleet grotto]

You can balance summoner by removing the default minion slot, all buffs relating to minion slots, accessories that increase minion slots, and armor pieces that increase minion slots (sentries as well ofc)

[north oracle]

you might be on to something there actually

[thin lake]

the kiting class

[fleet grotto]

the whipper

[glass arch]

the third school of thought 😨

[north oracle]

you thought whips were melee weapons before?

[thin lake]

well

they are affected by flasks

[fleet grotto]

so are rogue weapons

and hellborn*

[echo leaf]

something something flask of party something something everything's affected by flasks

[grave zinc]

@balmy hound - Your suggestion has received an updated status!

[Phase out Ore Slimes with different enemies.]

It has received enough votes to be passed on to the dev server for voting! You'll be notified again when a verdict is reached.
You can check out your suggestion again here: #suggestions-voting message

[obsidian nova]

Exo Obelisk from Community Remix

[keen zodiac]

this is already planned why didn't it get locked

[obsidian nova]

Suggestion Bot

[drowsy plank]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/465195069406707722/1392668647440519238/spriter_hell.gif

[fleet grotto]

and formatting error

[patent sapphire]

as I am assuming this is referring to my post about food, then why isn't it classified as food?

if you go to an item browser and look in food, calamity addons are included there such as cinnamon rollyn from wotg or astracola from catalyst but no calamity

[fleet grotto]

huh?

what?

[patent sapphire]

alright if that's not how this discord works I am just giving up here

[fleet grotto]

icant help you idont know the deal

the issue with this suggestion is that there's no title and only a bodu

body

that's what the 🗜️ means

formatted incorrectly

[patent sapphire]

Was this in reference to that post? That is my main question

[fleet grotto]

it's either too long or doesn't have a title

[fleet grotto]

oh yes

[errant wren]

yeah you typically need a title plus the body (shift+enter)

[errant wren]

and yes

[fleet grotto]

there's no sprites for those items

so many would have to be made

[errant wren]

you can take that up with uhh..

i forgot

[keen zodiac]

the next update is already stuck in spriting purgatory

[patent sapphire]

so that's it, the only like issue I have with this is that calamity food isn't considered food by browsers meanwhile calamity addon foods are

[patent sapphire]

I tried a long time ago to make mods, yeah sprite work was so tiring

[errant wren]

yeah that's just generally where the sugg is at

[keen zodiac]

it's not a bad suggestion

just not a priority

[patent sapphire]

oh I understand that

This is a very cosmetic feature

[errant wren]

yeah no you're good there

[patent sapphire]

but I had no idea where I could add like a low priority suggestion

[errant wren]

it'll probably happen eventually™

[errant wren]

it would still be here

but you know

spriting

[patent sapphire]

Yeah now a bit out of the left field, but does anyone else have an issue in base terraria that some of the food is just bigger?

[drowsy plank]

calamity only adds 5 of them, so it's probably just an oversight and should go in #1052323733961977947

[patent sapphire]

oh no vanilla ones

I just noticed that some random foods are just bigger that makes them look low res

[drowsy plank]

i was responding to your earlier message

of calamity foods not being considered foods

presumably they just weren't tagged properly at some point which would be an oversight which means you should make a bug report about it

[patent sapphire]

Will it also need a log file cause that would take a while

[keen zodiac]

every bug report is required to have one

[olive saddle]

probably not all. something like journey mode dupe probably doesnt if you specify calamity only

[patent sapphire]

a sprite issue also shouldn't need one

but my visible echo coated furniture bug report probably wouldn't last if I hadn't included it

[golden sonnet]

Technically not all, but almost all as the log includes mod list and mod version, and ~90% of issues are caused by other mods/conflicts, or by having outdated mods

[olive saddle]

hence the journey mode thing. i do know of crossmod stuff but it feels like 90% of mods, including calamity, barely touch journey mode outside of basic research stuff

[vocal wedge]

How many people play Journey for serious playthroughs?

[worthy lintel]

its not possible to count, but a goddamn lot

its especially handy in multiplayer

not having to farm for long is a major boon

[frail mantle]

[indigo yacht]

a lot of people do!!

probably like 10%, maybe even upwards of 15%

[errant wren]

at least 1

[olive saddle]

i have the last few playthroughs. its much nicer than fargos. its also been done without calamity sooo theres that too

its much more enjoyable imo

i actually highly recommend it and if you use magic storage theres two great mode to use along with it

[thin lake]

@bleak karma I believe the right word you're looking for is "erratic" for the title of your suggestion but i agree, bosses having rigid attack patterns makes them very predictable to dodge. Thankfully, in current Master Revengeance Plantera she is able to dash at you but only when she's close enough after she's changed colors and made the sound to do so, and in Revengeance in general the Empress is distinctly more erratic for each higher difficulty. This is something possible to replicate for a lot of bosses like Skeletron & Prime, Queen Bee, the Twins, etc. This shouldn't be suggested for bosses that have a high amount of adds though.

part of the reason i love MR Plantera is because she attacks when she's close enough to you

but i wouldn't base it around when you stop moving because it's an AI behavior that can be easily exploited unless they do it anyway at some point

[gilded citrus]

Cheese does

[coral carbon]

me

fuck biome spread

[grave zinc]

@balmy hound - Your suggestion has received an updated status!

[Phase out Ore Slimes with different enemies.]

It has received enough votes to be passed on to the dev server for voting! You'll be notified again when a verdict is reached.
You can check out your suggestion again here: #suggestions-voting message

[keen zodiac]

????????

it already got sent?????????????????

[north oracle]

suggestion bot has been very confused lately

[tardy geyser]

its a cry for help, its gaining sentience

[mystic sandal]

sugg bot fucking up for the love of the game

[mystic sandal]

@tardy geyser - Your suggestion has received an updated status!

[Shut down Suggestion Bot before it gains sentience.]

It has been reviewed by the devs, and for one reason or another they decided it would be best not to implement it.

[tardy geyser]

[north oracle]

i'd genuinely pin this but i'd have to repin literally every single other one to move it below the info pins lmao

[errant wren]

small price to pay for pin

[north oracle]

[vocal wedge]

Hey guys is there something in pins?

[errant wren]

[north oracle]

was it worth it

[tardy geyser]

thank you mr bast

[errant wren]

can we ban this individual for spamming

i jest

[vocal wedge]

Mr. Bast? Do you do giveaways?

[north oracle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1127577485589086248/1370752858521210920/dropwigPuter.gif

[mystic sandal]

mr bast why does mr bast buger taste like shit

[tardy geyser]

dropwig burger yum

gourmands fav

[tepid crown]

this is why discord needs a better pinning system

[north oracle]

please

i want to drag and drop to reorder pins

discord please

[gilded citrus]

I think there were some pins

[errant wren]

discord exists to spite anyone who wants useful features

[boreal lichen]

fluffy we gotta kill you now sorry

[tepid crown]

fluffy i think you should fix cst pins too

😊

[north oracle]

Guhhhh

[errant wren]

small price to pay for organized pins

[distant gyro]

get off of me

[tardy geyser]

now im imagining rain world but you play as dropwig, and scugs drop on you instead

the infamous australian drop scug

[distant gyro]

spear dodge qte

[drowsy plank]

we gotta get this update man

@lone mantle just so you know, i believe this is already coming in the next update, unless i am mistaken and thinking of cancelled plans or something

[half imp]

no

The sands have been reworked but not marked as ammo

But vanilla sand doesn't get marked as ammo so ours doesn't

[drowsy plank]

ohhh

i misred i thought it was asking for the other sands to work as ammo, not to have them in the ammo slots

[half imp]

Yeah

They all currently work as ammo

[lone mantle]

oh i thought vanilla sand could

that feels so weird lol

imagine being early game and not wanting to mine the whole desert so you just have 5 types of sand in your inventory

should i delete the suggestion?

or maybe suggest making it a calamity thing where sands work in ammo slots

[half imp]

yeah probably change it from calamity added to just all sands

[lone mantle]

done 👍

[obsidian nova]

You know you could probably add this as a function for the upcoming DS expert accessory

[fleet grotto]

why though,,,

place a qol feature into an accessory

[indigo yacht]

hand of creation

[thin lake]

or something like the grand design which only has to be in your inventory

[half imp]

I do actually need to make scourge bag work with sand for ammo

[umbral gazelle]

why would i put sand in fishing bait/fallen star pouch

[frozen kite]

guys they should make a sand pouch so you can store a chest’s worth of sand and only sand into a single inventory slot

[indigo yacht]

sand slot

[thin lake]

https://tenor.com/view/anakin-panakin-gif-429689948583496685

[fleet grotto]

@steel willow sugg post isnt for suggestions

[steel willow]

huh

[golden sonnet]

Please keep discussions/refinements to suggestions in this channel. Suggestions should be standalone, not building on or replying to other suggestions

[steel willow]

okay

👍

[golden sonnet]

Thank you, not a warning or anything just a heads up

[steel willow]

np

[grizzled dome]

It would be funny if we could store sand in the gel/wulfrum metal/fallen star slots 😜

[craggy girder]

it is mildly upsetting that the only unique furnitures are for base wood

like item racks or mannequins

itd be cool if the cool new materials also made cool little doodads

like slag and bonewood making a sauna machine

or sunken sea sand being useable for some sorta natural fountain

[drowsy plank]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/465195069406707722/1392668647440519238/spriter_hell.gif

[craggy girder]

i hate spriters

they should be colars

or fantars

[olive saddle]

make the fuckin every compat mod for terraria

either have an algorithm do the texturing (probably not possible here) or work someone half to death only to see that the 200kb tmod update somehow breaks literally fucking everything

[grim tusk]

is this /srs or /j

[olive saddle]

definitely serious.
-# /j

was gonna say something about every compat being an algoritm that checks for wood types but that has no relevancy outside of "it does that, cant do it here"

[obsidian nova]

Just wanted to check, if the week has 6 or 7 suggestions, only one gets suggested? But with 8 or 9 it would be two?

Or not

[half imp]

Probably

I don't know which way it rounds

It might be 5+ is 2 and 9+ is 3

[obsidian nova]

Wait, 9+? I thought it would be 11+

[half imp]

well if 1-4 is 1

5-8 might be 2

And 9-12 might be 3

it depends on how it rounds the fraction

it could also be 1-7 is 1, 8-11 is 2, 12+ is 3

or a couple other options

[prisma sedge]

Personally, I still wish there was still a minimum of like...two or three suggestions to pass in weeks where only one would normally, because as it is (or as far as I understand it at least), it's pretty easy for good suggestions to lose their shots because there just weren't enough total for that week

[errant wren]

i had the thought of top 3 or top 20%, whichever is more

[serene tendon]

https://tenor.com/view/67-south-park-67-south-park-6-7-6-gif-14392179381746723927

[indigo yacht]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-gif-3572040316452832612

[golden sonnet]

stop spamming, this is a warning

[indigo yacht]

@lavish citrus the primary purpose of suggestions are for fixing issues in the mod... how does this fix the issue of aureus being a joke

also you need reasoning and your reasoning is more or less "the boss looks like a water strider"

[tepid crown]

@lavish citrus you need to shorten your suggestion, the body of the suggestion needs to be under a thousand characters

[indigo yacht]

you generally want to focus on outlining a problem rather than heavily detailing your solution

[lavish citrus]

too much non water strider discussions

eleted

[indigo yacht]

you didnt have to delete it you just needed to change the focus a bit

[lavish citrus]

just wanted to see if my ideas are simple enough to express in here

apparently way too simple

[grave zinc]

@balmy hound - Your suggestion has received an updated status!

[Phase out Ore Slimes with different enemies.]

It has been voted upon, and the devs decided it would be a good idea to implement it. This doesn't guarantee implementation, as plans may change/alternate plans may be made, but it does highly improve chances!
You can check out your suggestion again here: #suggestions-voting message

[drowsy plank]

guys i think next update they should overhaul the sunken sea

crazy i know

[boreal lichen]

thats a bit too outlandish i think

[frail fox]

Ore slimes to be all replaced with ore fish

[tepid crown]

because the essence fish and the soul fish and the gorecodile wasnt enough

[drowsy plank]

we're adding the boss fish next update

it drops the weapons of the last boss you killed

[tepid crown]

so this is how theyre gonna make the weapons that are staying as 10% more readily obtainable

[novel belfry]

Calamitas Fish

[balmy hound]

I thought people were saying the devs already planned ore slime replacements

[glass arch]

yeah they've been in the plans for like years

[keen zodiac]

wojak nod gif

[drowsy plank]

i mean why do you think i said "guys i think next update they should overhaul the sunken sea"

[distant gyro]

unsurprisingly no one voted no for that one

[crude geode]

Should have for the bit

[tardy geyser]

i love ore slimes, theyre awesome and cool and original and fun

they should add slimes for all the ores, including the vanilla ones

copper shortslime would be peak

[half imp]

that literally exists in vanilla

[olive saddle]

i really wish there was this weapon that was a culmination of your journey with the terrablade and stuff, might need to use auric bars for calamity but itd be epic as hell to have all the vanilla swords be used in the end game

[glass arch]

exo blade

[half imp]

zenith

there's literally like 3 ultimate swords

ark of the cosmos too

but moreso the other two

[errant wren]

i just really want this like, final boss who was an underling of a prominent figure in calamity lore, where the full theme is over 10 minutes and the fight itself has an arena that confines the player in a small area

[glass arch]

yharon

[olive saddle]

rot

[coral carbon]

thats the joke

[grave zinc]

@indigo yacht - Your suggestion has received an updated status!

[Add More Double Jump Accessories]

It has received enough votes to be passed on to the dev server for voting! You'll be notified again when a verdict is reached.
You can check out your suggestion again here: #suggestions-voting message

@thin lake - Your suggestion has received an updated status!

[Post-Mood Lord Dart-based weaponry is sorely needed]

It has received enough votes to be passed on to the dev server for voting! You'll be notified again when a verdict is reached.
You can check out your suggestion again here: #suggestions-voting message

[indigo yacht]

cool

[thin lake]

yippee!

[grave wagon]

😭

[indigo yacht]

hating

[echo leaf]

suggestion bot alive

[grave zinc]

@dense frost - Your suggestion has received an updated status!

[making it clear that you have actually killed moon lord's eyes on revengeance and death]

It has been voted upon by the devs, and although it did not receieve enough positive votes to pass, the final results were very close.
You can check out your suggestion again here: #suggestions-voting message

@real lynx - Your suggestion has received an updated status!

[Darksun dye]

It has been voted upon by the devs, and although it did not receieve enough positive votes to pass, the final results were very close.
You can check out your suggestion again here: #suggestions-voting message

[royal tapir]

5 and 2 month old suggestions 🔥

[grim tusk]

scrolled a little bit on suggestions channel and saw those 2

they were tied so just voted in em so they at least notify here

even tho regarless it didnt have enough votes to pass

[dense frost]

Aw shucks

Honestly I forgot I made that suggestion lmao

[real lynx]

Well shit

Why does it have to go through voting twice?

[gilded citrus]

Voting to get in dev server then voted on by the devs

[real lynx]

Ngl a bit upset the darksun dye isn’t getting added but ig another mod like CalVal can handle it

[oblique birch]

dying the sun dark

[prisma sedge]

You mean the

Xerocodile, my beloved

[real lynx]

Speaking of, anyone know their server or other ways to contact?

[keen zodiac]

#other-discords

[novel belfry]

You gotta be kidding me

[glass arch]

if i had to guess it was like

a 2-3 vote or something

[golden sonnet]

2-1 actually

I meant to vote yes, I guess I just forgot

[glass arch]

ok so its not like it got rejected its just that only 3 people voted on it

[golden sonnet]

if the difference is less than 2 it gets the "not enough votes"

hence the "the final results were very close"

as it could be 20-19 and it'd give that same message

the bot message could be more clear I guess

[indigo yacht]

"positive did not sufficiently outnumber negative" or something

[golden sonnet]

the other is true to (more neg than positive but not by enough votes), it's just did not have a significant favored result.

[indigo yacht]

"or vice versa"

[obsidian nova]

Guys is it just me or does it feel kinda weird that auric tesla's ranger helmet is the only one that doesn't give any kind of extra bonus? (By extra bonus I mean the ones that are stated in the "set bonus" template at the top of the page)

[golden sonnet]

It is a bit weird but not a huge deal

It gives ammo conservation next update, so that kinda fixes it

[obsidian nova]

Cool

[cloud maple]

is it just me or goblin tinkerer upgrading to next better is a little op? and sometimes even annoying especially with mage/summon weapons, or when reforging pickaxes
either change their best reforging to agile/quick (forgot which one was it) and make it cycle between this and legendary (for the exo mech chainsaw for example), or make tinkerer only do this if you have a coin ring or something equipped
it feels like as if all accs defaulted on warding or menacing as best reforge

[keen zodiac]

yeah reforges are kinda just fucked but you really can't do anything about it other than completely changing Literally Everything

[tiny minnow]

Warding really doesn't like me. It sometimes takes ages to get

[mystic sandal]

tbf theyre also doing exactly this on sso

with the reforge changes in the most recent changelogs

[drowsy plank]

pickaxes can already get Light with the current reforge system

furthermore, summoner weapons can already get ruthless and mythical

[zealous aspen]

Can I somehow get pinged when a suggestion receives an updated status?

[drowsy plank]

not unless you made it

[zealous aspen]

Ah ok

Would be cool if the suggestion bot got a separate channel to post updates

That way you could see it more easily without having to scroll through here

[drowsy plank]

you could just search "from:Suggestion Bot in: #suggestions-discussion"

[zealous aspen]

Yea true but I wouldn’t get notified

[tall mica]

for the most recent suggestion — can’t you just look at the wiki

boss checklist also exists..

..the guide, even??

[humble scarab]

there is a reason why guide exists

[tall mica]

like if there’s a wiki specifically for information and you don’t wanna go on it

i think that’s on you..

[humble scarab]

i have one monitor and its not really an issue especially on steam where you can open up google with the shift + tab function

and wiki isnt a must to have

if you dont want to go to guide everytiime to check what you can make with an item, get recipe browser

if you want to know boss progression and dont want to go to wiki, get boss checklist

[plush flame]

lite

[mystic sandal]

I think making calamity progression more rigid would be pretty cringe tbh

[plush flame]

boss checklist lite

also yeah

cal being very nonlinear outside of postml is quite fun

[humble scarab]

true

[dire warren]

bequeath me the reversed wires

[grave zinc]

@hot condor - Your suggestion has received an updated status!

[Rewrite Golem's Lore Item to give more emphasis on the Plague or effects after it is defeated.]

It has been reviewed by the devs, and for one reason or another they decided it would be best not to implement it.
You can check out your suggestion again here: #suggestions-voting message

[drowsy plank]

...you good suggestion bot?

this was rejected like a month ago lmfao

[vocal moth]

Let a bot dream

[tepid crown]

suggestion bot really hated that suggestion

[sleek turret]

lousy tshirt for suggestion bot saying #1 suggestion hater

[keen zodiac]

[tiny minnow]

"I hated suggestion bot and all I got was this lousy t-shirt"

[mystic sandal]

[Shut down Suggestion Bot before it gains sentience.]

[errant wren]

suggbot is the only bot i would let gain sentience

[haughty forum]

Even post ml there’s options

You can fight DoG right after ML

[thin lake]

well don't you need the ingredients from each of the three bosses intended before it

[vast herald]

theres 2 recipes for cosmic worm

so you can fight DoG without fighting sentinels

[thin lake]

ah

[devout thorn]

fUn fact: yoU can also beat ceaseless void withoUt killing skeletron or dealing with the dUngeon gUardian if yoU want

[drowsy plank]

why do you talk like calliope homestuck

[dense ferry]

Why Can't They Talk Like Calliope Homestuck Whoever That Is?

:/

[oblique birch]

This Homestuck was literally all over the places and I've never heard of it until AotC's trivials

[errant wren]

homestuck doesn't exist last i checked

[grizzled dome]

correct! It is what as known as "fiction".

[tiny minnow]

There was some guy on Reddit who capitalised the U in words. Can’t remember what sub but I think it must’ve been a gaming one

[urban oracle]

homestuck is real i saw it

it stole my lunch money

[gilded citrus]

Eat homestuck

[plush flame]

homestuck was created by body paint companies because nobody was buying the graey ones

[obsidian nova]

Homestuck was planted by the USA government to track LGBTQ+ members

[inland saddle]

Bro

Right after I leave to go out of town for thanksgiving week

My power goes out

I will not be able to revive suggbot until Friday

[boreal lichen]

eternal damnation

[drowsy plank]

sad!

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/465195069406707722/1308300486943965205/suggestion_bot_down.gif

[oblique birch]

this fucking bot and discord situation is so fucked up

why it dies so often

[umbral gazelle]

its form is incomplete, expect inconvenient

[tiny minnow]

Well that’s a new boss for Community Remix then

[urban oracle]

society if people just made qol addons themselves because alot of qol changes people want are actually extremely simple to implement instead of it being added to calamity

like isn't the way to make something count as ammo for the inventory just. 1 variable. and thats it

idk i just dont vibe with qol additions on calamity. thats all

most of them anyways

ig this one in particular is harmless

[humble scarab]

some dont know and understand how to code + you need download few stuff which you also need to understand how to use it or how to change stuff

its not as easy as changing one variable to someone who never codded

but i agree

that many qol additions shouldnt really be added to calamity but

rather as a small mod

[urban oracle]

It is really easy to learn though being honest and even if you don't know how to code you can genuinely just ask someone who does and they can probably get it done for you
And the only thing you really need is like, vsstudio or something (and again you can just, ask someone who does know)

It's understandable that some people just don't wanna but it just rubs me the wrong way that people would rather get calmaity itself to add 500 different qol changes than to just take like 5 minues to do it themselves i dunno

i want a content mod not a qol mod

[humble scarab]

obviously if you ask someone who know how to code, its easy

and i agree they should do that

[urban oracle]

its less that its hard and more so that people are too afraid of it to actually try tbh but i digress

code is just like art in the sense that getting into it isnt hard at all its just that makin it good takes time and effort

alternatively

making something ammo could actually be more than 1 variable and im mandela effecting

in which case fuck my chud life

but im p sure its just 1 variable

[humble scarab]

2 lines i think

cuz you gotta choose projectile

you gotta choose what exacly leaves the bow/gun and deals dmg

and every mod have different folders for every type of thing

so more and 2 lines

cuz you gotta move it into ammos

[urban oracle]

No i don't mean actually makin a new projectile

[humble scarab]

and change the namespaces

[urban oracle]

I mean just making it so something can be put in the projectile prat of the inventory

[humble scarab]

then

i think

idk xd

[urban oracle]

cuz that's what the suggestion is asking

[humble scarab]

it got deleted so idk

[urban oracle]

im p sure thats literally 1 variable 😭

nah it sin voting

[humble scarab]

prob

[urban oracle]

making smth that is not a projectile into one would probably actually take a lil bit more effort yeha

You'd have to either make a new projectile or reference an existing one and such and while not HARD yeah i think it is def more effort than the former

[humble scarab]

yea

did the suggestion was about putting sand into ammo slot?

[urban oracle]

yeah

literally just that

[humble scarab]

cuz in some way it makes sense

[urban oracle]

it does make sense given its used as ammo by a few weps

[humble scarab]

expecially when they are adding more sand types

for the sand guns

[humble scarab]

if im not mistaken

[humble scarab]

then from where your rant came from xd

i didnt saw them bothering anyone about adding sand as ammo

[urban oracle]

the fact that i just think it's lame that calamity adds so much qol features
this particular case is mostly harmless but its still a overarching issue in my humble opinion

I think that sort of thing with a few exceptions should just be their own mods

Specially when its such comically easy stuff to implement that anyone should be able to just add it themselves on their own qol mods if they just take some time to learn it

which

i do think theres some vanilla/qol cahnges that are fine in cal

like the default dash

calamity's boss balance kinda falls apart without it o it makes sense

[half imp]

I also agree that calamity should be QoL minimal

If a player wants more QoL they can always add more, but it's very hard to remove QoL a player doesn't want

[urban oracle]

^

[half imp]

Not necessarily because that's hard to mod

But because nobody makes those mods

[urban oracle]

Like i get that not everyone will Care Enough to make their own code changes for qol features, thats understandable

But as i said before it rubs me off the wrong way theyd rather just get it added in calamity itself than to do that when its such small additions

[tardy geyser]

Move calamities qol to a seperate mod ig

[crude geode]

I’ve always disliked the argument for QoL that involves something along the lines of “just don’t use it!”

[gilded citrus]

Flood the qol market with all of cals changes

[drowsy plank]

to be fair ozz had discussed splitting calamity into more parts at one time, but a lot of it depends on the possibility of "soft dependencies", or in other words, tmod letting a mod download "soft" required mods, which would allow installing calamity to download the rest of its constituent parts when you get it off the workshop, but would allow you to shut them off once they are actually on your computer

for example, you could have Calamity (Content), Calamity Music, and Calamity QoL and you could disable them in parts if you wanted to

[urban oracle]

that'd be nice

[drowsy plank]

plus since it would have 3 configs, config bloat wouldn't be nearly as bad if you made its features more modular like fargo's

unsurprisingly, fargos stocks continue to rise

[gilded citrus]

Why aint that a thing already in tmod

[royal tapir]

Sand does not go into ammo slots because it sets Item.notAmmo, and on top of that it’s also hardcoded to not do so

Would need an On edit

[urban oracle]

did they specifically hardcode Sand to not go into the ammo slot 😭

or is that just like a general thing for items that don't go in there

[royal tapir]

(169 is sand item ID)

[urban oracle]

bro

😭 ??

[royal tapir]

Respectively those hardcoded IDs are Ale, Actuator, Sand, Fallen Star, Gel, Pearlsand, Ebonsand, Crimsand

[gilded citrus]

😭 why they wanna exclude them

[royal tapir]

Probably because their primary purpose is a building block, not an ammo for a single weapon

This function doesn't prevent putting them in ammo slots at all, it just prevents them from automatically being placed there when they go into your inventory

[crude geode]

Erm, fallen star has TWO weapons, liberal

[royal tapir]

who even you

[crude geode]

Jane Bast

[errant wren]

fact checked by me: true

hi jane bast

[royal tapir]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/897614777315123230/1189288948783136888/169AC91D-DC7E-4101-B076-83521C30DFB6.gif

[crude geode]

Gel also has two weapons

[drowsy plank]

great question

i imagine it has more to do with the steam workshop than tmod itself to be fair

[craggy girder]

i like buff stations and i like the wulfrum lure

and am sad theres no other kinds of stations similar to them

(from calamity at least)

[indigo yacht]

your suggestion doesn't really have reasoning for adding more though

you say it would be interesting to see but that can be applied to more or less anything

what problem does adding more solve

[craggy girder]

a lack of them id suppose ?
once you reach around wizard you never really see any new ones that provide anything of note
its the same stationbuffs from wizard ishhh too

when. like post ml? somewhere in there you get another station

calamity doesnt seem the type to just have a thing sit forever unless its a one-off

it often improves as you go along

[indigo yacht]

but how is not having that many buff stations a problem

[craggy girder]

its not really a problem to be solved

its moreso a suggestion instead of a critical issue

like yes it would infact be cool to see this

[indigo yacht]

have you read the suggestions document

[craggy girder]

buff station that grants amidias blessing while in specifically the sunken sea

[craggy girder]

i did actually

[indigo yacht]

okay so the thing about the suggestions posting channel is that the name is a little misleading

it's not so much for suggestions as for bringing up problems (and usually offering a few solutions)

[craggy girder]

im. pretty sure its for suggestions as well

[indigo yacht]

you can definitely make a suggestion about adding more buff stations but it has to be as part of a solution to a problem

[plush flame]

amidias' blessing is also getting killed

[indigo yacht]

the thing is they all have to have sufficient reasoning

and unfortunately "it would be cool" doesn't count

[craggy girder]

yes thats why i mentioned it being in only the sea

[indigo yacht]

trust me I've tried

[craggy girder]

-# how do i fuckin phrase this

buildings often boil down to the same components, except for a few (see draedon with their objects)

[plush flame]

suggestions are for fixing issues that need solving

[glass arch]

to be entirely fair most vanity shit is really hard to justify without using that reasoning

[craggy girder]

this

thank you

[glass arch]

like at most you get an inconsistency argument but thats only for things that already have counterparts

[craggy girder]

having more stations of sort provides whimsy and joy into the game outside of the primarily boss game

[plush flame]

iirc the only buff station that might get added is a class one for rogue but that'sit

[craggy girder]

(or stuff like wulfrum lure)

like idk place your moon summon into the post dog station and get the enhanced version

[glass arch]

anyways yeah for actually functional stuff
there does need to be a reason for it to have like a full gameplay impact

[indigo yacht]

not really

you don't need incredibly hard hitting reasoning for vanity

just say that "vanilla has a bunch of these, calamity doesnt" or some other parity argument

[craggy girder]

i was gonna say this

[indigo yacht]

theres a few things you can do

[craggy girder]

but terraria also has the fart kart

and i dont think calamity aims to be silly

[plush flame]

we need auric fart kart

[craggy girder]

it aims to be a bit more serious

(slightly more serious. picometers more.

[plush flame]

it does have a few silly things like the dog minecart

[glass arch]

like for wulfrum lure the reason is "wulfrum enemies are rare spawns once you get past early game so there should be a way to more easily farm them late game"

[craggy girder]

i mean my suggestion is very very openended solely because i dont have a point to make thats divisive

[plush flame]

unfortunately current wulfrum lure doesnt lure the one wulfrum you want lured (rovers) (getting fixed)

[craggy girder]

like yes i do infact want more stations that do cool things because i like it when calamity does cool things

like my argument is "i <3 calamity but not its bosses" i dont really have much to say

[indigo yacht]

that's a good thing, you don't want to be overly specific

[craggy girder]

i saw that yea

i just dont exactly have a main point to make

more buff stations would be cool, more novelty stations would be neat, more interactables

like imagine going into sunken sea and seeing a ruined air generator which puts you in The Bubble™ when replaced

[half imp]

We have plans to make sunken sea pylon provide water breathing

[craggy girder]

yea this is smart

also why does lantern center exist

i did some research before suggesting: why does it exist

[plush flame]

for people who want the visuals

[errant wren]

what if we made pianos give a buff to the instrument weapons

i'll see myself out

[indigo yacht]

what if we turned you into a rug

[craggy girder]

piano that lets you play piano

[drowsy plank]

honestly this one is on red

[craggy girder]

what does this mean

ohh you mean redigit

you can play the drums for sure

[drowsy plank]

yeah

[distant gyro]

it's peak

[oblique birch]

forgot that thing is Calamity actually

[obsidian nova]

Not a suggestion but could you please include astral ore in the shimmer chain? You could just make it not shimmerable from/into until AD is defeated

[royal tapir]

Shimmer transmutations are static and defined on mod load, so no

[vocal wedge]

So then how does stuff like Rod of Harmony work?

[coral carbon]

The issue is probably not to disable the transmutation, but to make the item transmute into a different thing based on boss progression

[royal tapir]

Correct, because Rod of Harmony is just “does it transmute or not” which is very easy
This would require two separate transmutations that are conditional, which is infeasible with how transmutations work and are loaded

[half imp]

luminite brick has like 20 of them

it's not infeasible to have multiple

but it would be a little obtuse to the player on top of being annoying to implement

[royal tapir]

Luminite Brick transmutations are hardcoded

[obsidian nova]

Honestly, can transmuting Luminite/Exodium into Astral be considered an example of non linear progression if it were to be added?

[eternal escarp]

not as much non-linearity as much as just being able to skip deus while still getting its benefit

[indigo yacht]

non-linearity is the fact you can fight deus as soon as you enter hardmode

[craggy girder]

you could technically fight yharon as your fourth boss if you felt like it

or, no

fifth i think

point is you can fight him pre-ml

[tardy geyser]

I think it would be sixth now that crate bug is gone. Wof, 1 mech, ravager, cultist, folly, yharon

[north oracle]

Surely WoF, cultist, ML, rav, yharon

[tardy geyser]

true

[mystic sandal]

what do you need wof for

[north oracle]

Eidolists spawning

[mystic sandal]

oh right they only spawn in hm

[north oracle]

(Or post calclone iirc )

[mystic sandal]

WAIT

nvm it needs hm ores

[north oracle]

Yeaa
No woffless optimal low%

[mystic sandal]

i mean even if you could get calclone without anvil you'd still need wof for hardmode crates to fish up auric

so like, whatever

[mystic sandal]

oh

right, forgot about that

wait does that mean inf low% has -1 boss now

[novel belfry]

you shouldnt suggest that (it'd fall under SIS) but i would absolutely love a angry dog summon

[eternal igloo]

Sis?

[tepid crown]

read pins

[oblique birch]

also suggestions is for solving problems the mod has I don't think adding a summon weapon in post-ML for this guy just because will solve anything

[eternal igloo]

Is suggesting enemies is against any rules?

[mystic sandal]

If they’re specific, yes

[oblique birch]

depends but sounds like it mostly ye

very often happen

[mystic sandal]

Like if you wanted to suggest a new stormlion variant you’d have to suggest something like “Add a new Stormlion variant”, not “Add a Stormlion larva”

[eternal igloo]

I thought it would be nice to have a hardcore and post moon lord version of this lad

[oblique birch]

reason why?

like you need to explain what would adding these variants will help the mods

gotta give good reasons for that

[glass arch]

post moon lord is fairly easy because there arent any post moon lord enemies lma

[mystic sandal]

There are, they just don’t really exist

Scorn eaters are as close as you get

And those things get killed by just about any post ml weapon

Even like an unreforged star wrath is more than enough

[glass arch]

there are 4 not counting the 2 extra phantom spirit forms

so id say no there arent any

[eternal igloo]

Well I kinda thought that areas like brimstone crag and underworld kinda lack enemies that are akin to the unicorn and so I thought hey it would be cool to see a hellhound in these biomes as an enemy (and potential minion summon maybe)

Oh wait.... I hate you terraria devs

[keen zodiac]

crags will get actual enemies Eventually

[oblique birch]

Crags has plans

Underworld, idk if they add new enemies to the Underworld it probably should be more unique than another Unicorn type

[eternal igloo]

I could come up with something but that would be specific suggestion

[oblique birch]

yes

[umbral gazelle]

https://calamitymod.wiki.gg/wiki/Despair_Stone

they behave pretty much like unicorn

[oblique birch]

🤨

[keen zodiac]

how many is this on the invalid suggestion bingo

[oblique birch]

Calamity is not responsible for whatever Infernum did to Cryogen

[indigo yacht]

no joke suggestions

[oblique birch]

Also pretty sure boss zen is still a thing in Infernum

Oh well this sounds just like a crashout so shrug

[tardy geyser]

Cryo doesnt enrage in astral snow