suggestions-discussion

[limpid meadow]

too bad that mf never spawns

i see it maybe once a playthrough lol

[golden sonnet]

Not really, I use the bulk extractinator mod to do full stacks at once so this isn't an issue for me, but it definitely shouldn't require another mod

[novel belfry]

they do go faster than usual

[errant wren]

draedon and exo extractinators at post-ds and post-exo mechs

[glass arch]

i dont think its ever been that much of an issue for me

[tepid crown]

what about

an auto extractinator

u put in extractable items and

[errant wren]

i don't think i've ever needed that many scraps or circuits

[tepid crown]

at a slower but automatic rate

it deposits items n coins to a connected chest

[errant wren]

wasn't there a mod that did item transfer or am i remembering wrong

this has nothing to do with that but i just got reminded of it

[tepid crown]

idk

[tepid crown]

@half imp if ur still doing tech mod can u add this to it thanks

[half imp]

oh yeah

about twt

MechTransfer mod can do that

but without the part about needing to be slower

[tepid crown]

o ok

is mechtransfer ur mod or just a similar terraria tech mod

[half imp]

similar

much older

MechTransfer was a thing back in the days when I did thorium + calamity + simple auto chests + tremor +

[errant wren]

also turns out that was the mod i was thinking about

[half imp]

peak

[umbral gazelle]

oh my god niko 971344363577889298

thats quite alot of niko

[limpid meadow]

its kinda niche since the only situation u wud ever need more plating/circuits than what you can just find from labs is if u are crafting turrets

but the turrets r kinda helpful so i like just having a bunch of them

as an aside there should lowkey be post moonlord turrets but thats besides the point

[crude geode]

What would you even use them for

The events that take place in other areas/are being deleted

[frail fox]

Noxus when I bring my turret army into the distortion

[limpid meadow]

they're nice for when u first unlock the frost/pumpkin moons

oh wait u mean new ones

yeah same thing i guess cause like. u mean to tell me draedon made exomechs

but cant make a godflamethrower turret

[rapid pivot]

if there was an enemy around that justified the godflamethrower turret, he'd call in the mech bosses or the exo mechs

[limpid meadow]

but what if he put the godflamethrower turrets onto his exo mechs

like 6000 of them or something

that would kill things i bet

it would be a way harder fight

[indigo yacht]

shhh dont spoil the upcoming exo mech rework

@warm juniper #suggestions-voting message

i think a rogue buff station has been confirmed but it's kind of ambiguous looking through older messages so this suggestion is probably still fine until a dev says something

[glass arch]

...all five classes?

[fleet grotto]

this suggestion has been made so many times

[glass arch]

why say "all 5 classes except for rogue" just say "every class except rogue"

[warm juniper]

because that means literally the exact same thing

[errant wren]

weird wording~~, also cal players~~

[warm juniper]

fixed

idk it didnt sound that unreadable to me but ill change it just for convenience

[indigo yacht]

there are 5 classes?

[errant wren]

i guarantee that at least one person would have read it wrong and thought something different

[errant wren]

yeah it's
melee
mage
summoner
rogue
builder

[indigo yacht]

why

[crude geode]

ranged bad

[indigo yacht]

why

[lucid peak]

reliable

[gaunt crystal]

am I the only person that likes ranged?

[crude geode]

no

I was merely explaining the joke hs was going for

[grim tusk]

aint this a dont due to frequent suggestion

anyways it aint being added til rogue update

[crude geode]

nope

not frequently suggested enough thanks to the purging of the list

[drowsy plank]

can i just put a 🔒 on it in voting

[glass arch]

implying voting exists

[ripe owl]

we live in a democracy don't we?

[golden sonnet]

It's already passed before so this is an ❗ yeah

[keen zodiac]

mods, ❗ this person

[vestal crater]

Mods, give our posters some yogurt
Tenna but a discord user maybe

[last shard]

Maybe an item like Encumbering Stone or Ball & Chain where upon interacting with it in your inventory, it gives a debuff of -1000% Mining/Axe/Hammer power?

That way you don't end up mucking with the weapons themselves, just a single Inventory slot- NOT Accessory, just Inventory

[errant wren]

voluntary creative shock debuff

[indigo yacht]

yeah but like why

actually why does ball and chain even exist

just bind your dash key to like k or something and just don't press it

is there some mechanical difference that warrants the item existing

[errant wren]

default dash or something

[keen zodiac]

it existed years before default dash

[errant wren]

well idk

didn't dash key also get added after ball and chain?

[keen zodiac]

yep

[errant wren]

the wiki says something about it being added because the dashes used to be tied to visibility

which, if someone wanted an accessory to be visible and also have the benefits except for the dash...

i guess it works?

not that

[tepid crown]

opposite way

they want a dash but dont wanna see it

like personally i turn off visibility for all shields including the dash ones cuz imo i dont like it when it covers a quarter of my character

i wanna see my armour/vanity set

[errant wren]

no i mean like

[tepid crown]

if u mean for ball and chain existing now, theres literally no point

[errant wren]

if a player didn't want the dash but did want the visibility (for some reason)

[indigo yacht]

if that's the case then i can see why it was added

and i suppose there's not technically any reason to remove it even though it's virtually useless

[errant wren]

i mean i've literally never used it because i've never had that problem

[tepid crown]

ig?

but

like

[errant wren]

it's pretty dumb yeah

[tepid crown]

dash override exists now,,,

[errant wren]

i mean, does ball and chain also disable default dash?

[tepid crown]

i dont know why it wouldnt

[errant wren]

if it doesn't then that's the only thing going for it

[tepid crown]

does dash override not work on default?

[errant wren]

something something default dash only challenge

[half imp]

ball and chain should disable default iirc

but ive not tested

[errant wren]

oh lmao

[tepid crown]

yea

[errant wren]

yeah then there's no real point in keeping ball and chain anymore

unless it's made to not affect default dash

[tepid crown]

at that point might as well bring back defiled feather

and

whatever additional difficulties existed

(forgot wat they were called)

[errant wren]

iron heart...

[tepid crown]

yea that

and armageddon too i think

[errant wren]

armageddon yeah

let's be real those were kinda stupid

[tepid crown]

o

wtf,,

[indigo yacht]

defiled is peak get out of here

[errant wren]

defiled was the only good one i think

armageddon was just nohitting for like 6 treasure bags instead of 1

i don't even remember iron heart

i think it was just "hardcore during bosses so don't lose"

[tepid crown]

it was no healing with minimum damage

im pretty sure boss rush actually still has the minimum damage mechanic

[errant wren]

i think there was a change?

let me check

[tepid crown]

it says 1.4.5 changed it

from hardcore on bosses to no healing on bosses

[errant wren]

yeah

[glass arch]

i mean yes but the bot is broken

so actually we dont

no dear god not more sentry buffs 😨

[drowsy plank]

i

mmm

i think this might be pushing it

[indigo yacht]

cooldown rack: good
sentry: wrong place regardless of quality

[drowsy plank]

@winter canyon you can ask for weapons like sentries on some tiers or something, but i think asking to make an entirely new subclass to be developed is a bit much for a suggestion

excessive effort rule and all

it's basically the same as asking for a new mechanic for a class, which is basically the titular "excessive effort" example

[tepid crown]

sentry love is going to happen eventually

doze has spoken a lot about it

[drowsy plank]

well yeah we already knew the balance changes for summoner

but sentries are only going to be considered a % of summoner's damage

asking to make sentries wholly viable with no minions is asking for too much

[winter canyon]

that's nice to know, sorry for that 😓

[crude geode]

All good

[drowsy plank]

im pretty sure doze has already made some sentry support but this is just going too far

that's all

[crude geode]

Just remember to check the pinned doc before making a sugg

[glass arch]

tbf it doesnt explicitly break any rules

so its entirely understandable that they would think its fine

[winter canyon]

sorry for sorta reposting, just wanted to sorta fix up and revise the idea cause I thought it might be cool

[whole tundra]

#suggestions-posting message I really don't see the point of this and some parts are also just wrong.

Having the sentries be in 1 place and getting the boss to go near it is the management for sentries. And some of them are extremely good such as Spikecrag Staff and Cadaverous Carrion. Restricting them to summoner would just be weird as you can use other summoner weapons aswell when playing another class.

About the Caustic Croaker staff, it's meant to be a support weapon for when you are playing Summoner. It's not a primary weapon so ofcourse its damage is going to be less than primary weapons.

You can also respawn sentries

[half imp]

caustic is actually a primary weapon but it also is definitely on par with other actives

like croaker is literally not possible to use as not an active

I also agree that I don't really get the point of this suggestion though

it sounds like you just want summoner to have more active weapons

[winter canyon]

Not trying to argue but I completely respectfully disagree with this. As somebody else already said, the caustic croaker staff is not a support weapon. IMO the current state of sentries is a bit of extra DPS, so having them be a bit more active / dependable instead would 100% be better. While it might be weird, I still personally think it would be better.

[winter canyon]

Also, yeah, I do kinda want summoner to have more active weapons- I main summoner and I love weapons like the caustic croaker / wulfrum controller for those respective reasons, so maybe having more stuff like that would be cool!!!

[indigo yacht]

why sentries

i honestly don't see how you would make a sentry "dependable"

their nature is sorta that they aren't

[indigo yacht]

or, no, that isn't right. they cover a specific area and consistently cover that area, how dependable they are depends on how good you are at managing the boss

[whole tundra]

Okay but you can use that logic to an even more extreme extent for normal summons as they just go after the boss

For sentries, you have to get the boss close to it

[indigo yacht]

tbh that's the main reason i like sentries, how much damage they deal is dependant on how you manipulate the boss' movement

[whole tundra]

True!

Normal summons literally are independent

[winter canyon]

tbh that's fair if not for the fact that their range covers like 75% of a medium-sized arena. I main summoner and I find sentries to be extremely boring, they're essentially just campfires / heart lanterns in their current state but for damage instead of life regen.

[indigo yacht]

so... you would rather they have a smaller range?

[whole tundra]

How small are your arenas

[winter canyon]

..I would rather they be something you have to manage consistently to get the full potential out of instead of, as stated previously, something like an arena buff

[indigo yacht]

this too

[indigo yacht]

that seems the opposite of "semi-reliable"

[winter canyon]

Semi-reliable was the wrong way to put it, what I meant was having them be active instead of free extra damage

[whole tundra]

I have used some sentries and their range covered like 10% of a 400 block wide 200 tall arena

[indigo yacht]

i think you should change your suggestion to just be "make some sentries less boring" without all the fancy filler because that seems to be the essence of what you're arguing for

[uncut fog]

I just want a post DoG or post Yharon sentry, tho cadeverous carrion is insane esp in range category

[winter canyon]

I'm gonna do that cause that's actually valid. I just think sentries are a bit boring

[indigo yacht]

I'm actually astounded, there doesn't seem to be a single 'more post ml sentries' suggestion in voting

I'd be surprised if we didn't get any new ones with the summoner rebalance though tbf

i should repost my dumb crystal assassin armor suggestion

[half imp]

I think that's fair, I just don't think changing sentries to accommodate that is the right way about it

[uncut fog]

Theres like 6 and thats the 2 from ml, one from the providence looking enemies in underworld or hollow, on from signus, one from old duke, and one from exo mechs

[half imp]

one from CV

[uncut fog]

Wait which one?

[half imp]

Aqua's Scepter

nobody remembers it exists

[uncut fog]

Nimbus cloud number 83

They just made it bigger again

Also funny that the one crimson staff and the one from nimbus clouds are magic afair

[median scaffold]

Yeah, they're magic

And Aqua's Scepter has nothing to do with Aqua Scepter

[uncut fog]

So awesome

[crude geode]

Average dono weapon be like

[uncut fog]

I dont even remember it being very good lol

[median scaffold]

It stays in C or low B

[uncut fog]

Esp bc old duke's sentry is busted and also your last one till endgame

[median scaffold]

It isn't the main reason

[uncut fog]

Is there another reason other than its not got great damage and also has to be on top of the enemy to get that not great damage?

[median scaffold]

Bosses on the tier you get Aqua's Secpter on are usually quite mobility

[drowsy plank]

@winter canyon i dont get what your point is
you know you can resummon the other sentries too, right? like... you can use existing sentries like caustic croaker

im flagging this because i dont know what it's asking for

like resummoning is a thing you can do already...

[north oracle]

also active summons is a different subclass of weapon to sentries

like

there's a difference there

[gaunt crystal]

bruh

[hollow shell]

Perhaps a fair suggestion
But! Not formatted/written correctly for our system

[errant wren]

also incredibly vague

[indigo yacht]

no reasoning either, although admittedly you shouldn't need much to justify this

[hollow shell]

@full abyss Your suggestion needs to follow the format of having a title line at the top and your elaboration/reasoning written below

Also, it'd be more helpful if you were a little less broad

Where in particular did you get lost on what to do?

[drowsy plank]

oh i was

just going to say to go to #help-advice-read-pins lmao

[indigo yacht]

that's true but i think it's a valid suggestion as well

[hollow shell]

Indeed

[indigo yacht]

i don't think in its current state calamity has stellar guidance on what to do without the wiki

[hollow shell]

I mean you can have a conversation about whether or not you're expected to have Boss Checklist, or to be using the wiki

[indigo yacht]

itd be amazing to manage at least a degree of this

[hollow shell]

But more direction in-game I think is simply good game design

[full abyss]

Oh ok my bad

[drowsy plank]

i know but considering it didnt even have a suggestion body i had deleted it thinking someone was just talking in the wrong channel...........

also i think it is well known by the devs that calamity does a bad job telegraphing its progression rn

[indigo yacht]

i assume they're working on it, but a suggestion might help elevate it on their priority list if it happened to be lower

also it would help communicate to the playerbase

which is probably the main thing

[umbral gazelle]

@full abyss yharon*

[keen zodiac]

also

ask guide what to craft with auric bars

that makes it pretty clear

[indigo yacht]

i uh

am not sure about that

[crude geode]

Yeah idk if “you craft this with the previous item in progression” really makes it clear

While it’s technically true, a lot of players I feel will just hone in on items that look like swords/staffs/guns based on their class and ignore a good chunk of the rest

[keen zodiac]

right calamity players can't read i forgot

[hollow shell]

Hmmm iunno actually
I think it's a reasonable expectation that a direct boss unlock like Auric Ore would be significant to progressing to the next step(s)
i.e. Auric Quantum Cooling Cell and Altar of the Accursed

[indigo yacht]

counterpoint: rune of kos

[hollow shell]

The status message on Yharon's death is about as much direction as almost all other big boss unlocks
like post-Plant Dungeon

[indigo yacht]

all those bosses are optional

and often don't help the player by killing them

[hollow shell]

I disagree. Their boss drops still craft Cosmic Worm.

[indigo yacht]

hm

fair enough

[hollow shell]

(I actually feel like the Profaned Guardians to DoG pipeline is decently well done)

(The chain of boss summon items)

[coral carbon]

divorce leads children to the worst places
the profaned guardian to devourer of god pipeline

[half imp]

I mean

yharon tells you there's stuff underground

and he drops soul fragments

Put them in the guide and it tells you a bunch of things you can make

that's just as clear if not more clear than most other spots

Since auric doesn't make a whole lot besides weapons and the spawners

[errant wren]

erm clearly we add a status message that says something like "i feel like there's something calamitous left to do"

mods can we kick me out of the server

[crude geode]

mods can we crash h.s.'s computer everytime they type "clearly"

[errant wren]

clearly-

[crude geode]

[coral carbon]

why would yharon tell you

[umbral gazelle]

because hes kind and he knows kindness exist

[errant wren]

"aw man i guess i lost" yharon sounds funny

[crude geode]

didn't he participate in genocide

[errant wren]

shhhhhhhh

[indigo yacht]

❤️

[north oracle]

i'm not sure why yharon in particular is a problem ngl

[indigo yacht]

i think it could be better, but like

[distant gyro]

actually there is a problem

but its on the fact that folly and yharon are entirely nonlinear and without any external you have no idea when they're supposed to be fought

i humour a messed up reality where someone genuinely went through hell of pre-moon lord yharon with no knowledge of that's not what you're supposed to do and get completely destroyed

idk guys i think calamity might have a difficulty spike

[frail fox]

Pre-mech Aureus and Deus

[distant gyro]

yep so true

[north oracle]

...you are correct

however that's a problem with getting into yharon not after you beat yharon

[past viper]

Wait anahita is not an early game boss???

[keen zodiac]

post plantera

[crude geode]

Nah it definitely is

Just like Duke Fishron

[keen zodiac]

preboss duke 🔥

[mystic sandal]

Honestly the pre mech deus is so cool

Friend of mine played calamity recently

“Oh hey I wonder what this titan heart does it’ll give me some loot”

Boom he died in like 15 seconds

BUT it also set up to make the eventual actual Deus kill so much more satisfying

[hollow shell]

Oh hey I don't think I've seen this suggestion before

Not a bad idea I spose

Although it would be more disorienting to have your movement capabilities constantly changing

And much less fun/funny cuz everything isn't flying everywhere at endgame speeds

[past viper]

For me personally its always been pretty boring because the solution to most fights is just to quickly move in the opposite direction, in the base game however you have to actively play around your own movement restrictions

Also i thought changing up the degree of mobility once per tier wouldnt necessarily be too overwhelming but give more distinctiveness to them

Also since your mobility would always increase there would never be a point where the switch up would be to your detriment

That said, an indication would be nice atleast at the start of the rush

[lucid marsh]

What if you just manually set the player's stats, beyond movement, to be what they would be at a given stage in progression?

[drowsy plank]

what's the point then

just
play the game again

[keen zodiac]

yeah that would suck ass

[gritty plaza]

yeah that doesn't make sense

boss rush atm feels like "hey look EoC used to be kinda a challenge but now with my ultra powerful gear it's easy, look how far i've come"

how would you even enforce that anyway? cap endgame weapons at doing 30 dps because that's what a musket can manage?

[gilded citrus]

Make boss rush throw the entire tier of bosses at you

[frozen kite]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1350111452471758878.gif?size=48&animated=true&name=Wave

very self centered suggestion but i would joy…

[eternal escarp]

wouldnt you hear each bosses' track for litterally 2 to 6 seconds

[golden sonnet]

Yes

Anything pre dog dies in sub 10

Which is all vanilla bosses, which is what the suggestion is referring to

[gritty plaza]

kinda good sugg but also config bloat

then again mod music doesn't have any configs rn iirc

[indigo yacht]

"let's remove the only redeeming part of boss rush!"

@past viper boss rush won't have malice ai anymore in sso, so you more or less have that half of your suggestion already

[indigo yacht]

i feel like the only boss rush even still exists is bc of the music

it's too good to just remove br now

[astral sage]

dont remove br

[indigo yacht]

Don't listen to This One.

[astral sage]

🦉

[past viper]

aye thats neat, now we just need the other half

[drowsy plank]

this is really funny because this is just true of like 90% of the mod

most bosses still exist just because dokuro's tracks are Just That Good

[keen zodiac]

bossrush doesn't have dokuro music

byeah for bosses that's absolutely correct

[half imp]

I can confirm that music does play a part in decisions we make for calamity

[keen zodiac]

ravager would've died long ago if the music wasn't a thing

[half imp]

like we're not releasing an exos rework without the exos song

[drowsy plank]

makes sense

[half imp]

I don't think so

I don't think Fabsol would have killed it

[keen zodiac]

right

the fabsolian regime

[half imp]

and by 25 I don't think we would have killed it

[keen zodiac]

def not

new lore is too cool

old duke on the other hand

[oblique birch]

pig that is old

[keen zodiac]

I'M OLD

[drowsy plank]

im mold

[gritty plaza]

i like pig that is old

he's funny

[frozen kite]

no it would be longer since yknow they’re given so much more health

[eternal escarp]

last i played this was the case

[frozen kite]

for me rn they all take atleast a minute

[eternal escarp]

to me thisd just be worse than having a single concise track playing for the whole stage

[gilded citrus]

Tf the gear you using

[frozen kite]

i mean i’ve beat all bosses except exos rn

[eternal escarp]

duh then

[frozen kite]

as good as i can focused on dps…

[gilded citrus]

Boss rush is meant to be fought with shadowspec gear
So yeah you will be fighting a lot longer

[eternal escarp]

endgame cal rn is not matching most of the games balance so without shadowspec youre definitely not matching anything

[frozen kite]

sacrifice is a nice weapon…

[eternal escarp]

i wouldnt dare to imagine someone doing a 45 minute boss rush

sounds boring as hell

well if you want to keep use sacrifice thats cool but you do need to know you would hear barely the first 10 seconds of each boss' theme in normal circumstances

thats not enough to really enjoy any track itd just be a bunch of fade in/fade outs

[frozen kite]

https://tenor.com/view/monkey-thinking-monkey-thinking-think-money-gif-9734025314392564509

still don’t see a reason why it wouldn’t atleast be coolio to have

[plush flame]

bosses that live for half a second and then die

[frozen kite]

when will the voting kick in again

[keen zodiac]

@inland saddle

bot dead in a fucking ditch

[past viper]

We should probably start raising some money for the bots funeral

[eternal escarp]

since usually if the only reason for a sugg is "itd be cool" it just doesnt pass

[frozen kite]

true

and then again this suggestion is almost entirely self serving anyways
and by time of an update i’d probably finally beat exos and be onto the next playthrough

[indigo yacht]

that's probably true

[half imp]

Yeah boss rush makes no sense with individual boss themes

You'd not even finish most intros

[indigo yacht]

you don't understand we should make boss rush take 3 hours to complete so you can fully listen to every song

[keen zodiac]

true

[gritty plaza]

replace boss rush music with eulogy for the ego

you will listen to the piano

[errant wren]

replace boss rush with boss bullet hell and make the themes sync up with the attacks

[worthy lintel]

curse of boss rush

[golden sonnet]

I think using terminus should just reset the world, but not the player, so you can do a boss rush

[olive saddle]

wow guys, we really Bossed that Rush
wow Guys, we really Rushed Those boses

wow guys, we really bos srush

WoW Guys, we really rushed around to Fight t Hose bosses

[idle dagger]

L bot

[oblique birch]

L discord

[frozen kite]

@grave zinc work

[fossil finch]

Suggest No More

[last shard]

Wanted to sort of bounce a suggestion idea before actually pitching it
Would it be reasonable (or possible) to give Midas Prime (and maybe Crackshot Colt) specifically the ability to hit two targets via split shot- with the "splits" avoiding targeting the same enemy to avoid overpower in boss fights?

Like, in early HM it feels insanely useless for a lot of exploration despite it's potent damage simply because enemy spawns are dense enough that it can't reliably hit "valued" targets and will more often than not pitch into lightweights. For example, using the same Pirate event it stems from, it will not try to target a Pirate Captain or Flying Dutchman more than a Parrot or Pirate Corsair that is also in range

This feels a little more fine for Crackshot since earlier in, that density feels way less impactful even for events, but it's kind of sad to see Midas struggle so hard there.

BUT the problem of other guns utilizing that same mechanic by equipping Marksman Rounds and just swapping between Midas Prime and something like a Sniper Rifle/Nitro Express Rifle/etc style sniper weapon exists too, which while it could be fun as a way to diversify sniper tool usage could also end up a balance problem with like Rubico Prime or Anti-Materiel who also have really potent effects with those on-crit AoEs

Particularly for the ever-so-popular trend of worm bosses

[indigo yacht]

probably not

and the reasons being

1. basically just a reference suggestion
2. what problem does this solve?
3. the devs will fucking kill you

[last shard]

2 is the big one more than 1, specifically because the random targeting makes it feel really bad to use outside of bosses

For being a "fuck you in particular gun" it really sucks at targeting higher health enemies.

The splits feel like a compromise there because of density, since either A) The coin shots should attempt to default prioritize highest max health targets in range but risk it getting walled or B) Give it an easier time with hitting multiple enemies. A definitely feels like the more tame option, but B sounded like it'd legitimately be nice for using Midas as a staple and for use with other firearms.

A is easily suggestible to help make the weapon much more user friendly for events or exploration, but figured I'd pitch B for shits and giggles to see if it seemed outlandish. Which it does. Idk I like the idea of it retaining random targeting but working better for exploration or events.

[frozen kite]

i like the idea

[last shard]

It seems insane to balance B though because of other weapons being able to use the system

Ah fuck it I'll just pitch A.

[indigo yacht]

these are fair points but split shots are still just enhancing a reference and the devs will (probably) still attempt to have you executed

[last shard]

You know what's that's fair. Reference aside too, that would be a pretty nasty thing to code probably as well for wyrms and other multi-part enemies too.

[indigo yacht]

not really

[last shard]

I mean making the split shot to explicitly not target hitting the same target as any other splits in a chain? That can't be easy

[indigo yacht]

i mean you just take two enemies from a list and shoot a bullet at both instead of one enemy

[last shard]

Oh.

[indigo yacht]

one thing thats important in programming is changing your perspective because if you were to have both shots independently try and find different targets that would be annoying but if you just decide beforehand it's easy

[last shard]

Anyway I pitched Idea A out, hoping it at least gets that for it's use

[last shard]

I thought that's how coins work because coins can get introduced into the chain after the first coin impact

It adaptively targets a new coin in range after hitting one, then looks for Daawnlight Spirit Origin bullseyes, then what seems to be closest or random target since "closest" might as well be random due to the bullet travel times and constrained arc (wiki page for Marksman Rounds claims just "a nearby enemy in 56.25 tile radius"

[fleet grotto]

I like this suggestion

[golden sonnet]

I feel like this causes problems, during events minibosses will just tank for all the other enemies and so they won't die

[last shard]

I mean, it's a priority-target gun isn't it? There are other guns for CC purposes for other enemies too, or even using Marksman Rounds on other weps to get AoE effects. You can also point-blank or default shot with the two for "standard" enemies

If it was general use case being what it should be used for then splitshots would undeniably the better method to better chunk through enemies in a general term, but it's using coins as a setup for a singular big hit- no different than most Sniper style weapons, but with way less capability to aim.

I'm not really seeing a difference between what you're saying would happen and what already does happen, so at the very least the thing meant to be hitting minibosses should have an easier time doing that job and using another gun- ie: Gunk Shot for close range, Clockwork Assault for general, etc. As it stands now, focus fire efforts outclass Midas usually just by using Nitro Express because it has 4 target pierce, actual aiming, and is even craftable without any events with fairly comperable damage accounting for said pierce.

[half imp]

yeah I fully agree that a change like this would be ideal

it doesn't even need to guarantee targeting high max HP, but at least give them increased priority and have it target based on closest to the final coin, adjusted for priority (which it probably already does use closest to final coin at least)

[last shard]

I think it already does do something around proximity, but because Terraria is 2D and there's not really a lot of good ways to help "target" coins due to how they work and it effectively seems random or only vaguely usable- especially when using coins flicked across other directions. Giving particular enemies priority levels also makes it less usable with other mods too unless it's by vague tags like "miniboss" "boss"- something that would probably trip up even on ingame content with Lunar Events (which I think this sugg might need a manual check over to avoid the tower if it has a "barrier" up still or such)

[last shard]

This does give an alt suggestion idea

Which is to give coin shots pierce maybe, +1 Pierce per coin?

I worry about giving it that capability for anti-worm reasons though...

Since if it gets pierce, at least if it hits into a mass or you line the coin(s) right it would affect multiples in the same general sense splits would and help punch to hit big targets behind or inside groups smaller ones

Seems like a lot more aim effort than it's worth to make a 3-4 or maybe 2 coin piercer work outside of multi-segment bosses though ngl

[drowsy plank]

how to deal with fodder enemies while using crackshot;

shoot them with your gun

by the nature of them being weaker you should just be able to clear them out using the. yknow. basic fire of the weapon

still this would prolly be fine just funny

[last shard]

That's what I was thinking too

It's good enough base fire to work in a pinch

And swapping weps for crowds to big bois is always good

But it just needs help managing hitting the big bois in their groups

[last shard]

Oh yeah I also want to note this is a thing that affects a lot of weapons by default too

Because all guns can use Marksman Rounds to get the effect, especially ones like Rubico Prime

Any "fuck you in particular" bullet gun can make potent advantage of coins as well (ngl would kill for an accessory that like, gave your ammo Marksman effect and gave an alt-fire to weapons lacking one to use Copper coins or smth but that's a bit much, so anything that works well as a focus fire here also works there

[mystic sandal]

KILL ALL SUGGESTION BOTS

[fleet grotto]

they're literally dead already

[vestal crater]

Wonder how long it’ll take until this suggestion gets banished into the shadow realm

[hollow shell]

@indigo flower Do not post joke suggestions please

[keen zodiac]

what was it

[vestal crater]

Moonwalker boots

All pre hardmode boots basically

[keen zodiac]

oh right that one

i thought it was a meme in genmedia

[vestal crater]

Nah

[hollow shell]

(You're not supposed to ask that)

[vestal crater]

Oh sorry for answering I didn’t know that

[hollow shell]

It's alright

[keen zodiac]

apologies mr drive

[whole tundra]

1 day until Suggestion Bot has been dead for 2 weeks

[oblique birch]

recordmaxxing

[indigo yacht]

goodness

quite a large backlog

[drowsy plank]

@humble sable there are translation addons

[humble sable]

I have tested many but the quality was not always there.

[rapid pivot]

also, tbh, probably a task best left to addon-makers - translating everything's a pretty big effort, best done by people who actually speak the languages involved

[humble sable]

Yes, you're probably right, it's just that I would have found it practical.

[drowsy plank]

if the quality isn't there for addons made by people that actually speak the language who are doing it out of passion, how would a team that basically only speaks english and doesn't get paid do it, exactly? not to mention upkeep. that's the main reason cal would never realistically be able to add something like that

[humble sable]

You're right

[errant wren]

if cal devs pay me like 2 dollars and reference me in a tooltip i'll do spanish translations for the whole mod

[uncut fog]

Its also a looooot of effort as in the one rule that suggestions shouldnt be extremely intensive time investment wise

[grim tusk]

pretty sure theres a Spanish translation addon already

I wonder if the German and Russian ones are fixed cuz they used to bug the game a lot

[grim tusk]

despite several team members speaking other languages, the upkeep is batshit insane.

If I struggled with CalTestHelpers localisation, imagine the actual mod

[errant wren]

shade i'll literally do it for 2 dollar
but yeah translation takes a lot

i have firsthand experience on translating a lot for a game

[fossil finch]

Dead

actually no there's a standalone one that still works

[distant gyro]

translating is so difficult

[errant wren]

traducir es muy difícil

[distant gyro]

also like yeah how do you ensure quality of a translation when you don't speak the language

like my bad i only know 2

[errant wren]

which ones

[distant gyro]

if you know you know

[errant wren]

i could maybe make a translation mod for spanish (latin american) if i knew how, but that's something for way later

[distant gyro]

its hard

you pretty much need a team to do it

and a lot of feedback and oversight

the localization aid channel always have to deal with stuff like

can we not transliterate brimstone elemental into sulfur elemental

[errant wren]

oh so nitpicky stuff.. yikes

[distant gyro]

and a lot of gender,

language

[distant gyro]

except its like its not an edge case it just happens on 50% of the names or lore you translate

[humble sable]

I I can do the same for French

No need to pay me just mention me

[glass arch]

the issue comes down to just the impossibility of quality control

and sometimes things just dont like to be translated

[humble sable]

🥲

[errant wren]

so you mean to say that i'm never going to see draedon be referred to as "Don Draedon" in an official capacity

[glass arch]

the rot

but yes that is highly likely

[errant wren]

[distant gyro]

translating yharim's crusade without direct religious implications 🔥

[fossil finch]

Wdk

why would you do anything else like wdk

Elemental de Sulfuro sounds bad so like elemental de azufre but like why give her a new name when it works Fine

Shit like azote desértico is more #problematic which is why we went for another thing in fables

all in all localizing is hard yeah but we have sooo much fun doing it for fables

If we didn't value our time we'd make our own for cal

[distant gyro]

the presentation of sulph and brimstone is pretty notably different

and if both of them end up being the same that kind of sucks

confusion galore

[glass arch]

sulph in cal is like. poison ocean stuff. brimstone is Fuck You Go To Hell

[last shard]

I mean, iirc Draedon's logs directly explain the "sulfur" is actively part of the crags

So it's not actually that far a split, but yeah

[ripe owl]

Not to mention the fact that Sunken Sea is literally an oxymoron as how can a sea sink

[fossil finch]

At least in spanish using azufre for crags stuff fixes this

But also the sulph sea should be renamed anyway imo (imo

Cuz like all in all it's not all that sulphurous outside of crags fumes, at least rn anyways it's more toxic waste mutants thing than sulfuric specifically

[mystic sandal]

Yeah but alliteration is fun

[bold crown]

Plus, Sulphrous Sea is a good name imo

[fossil finch]

The nefarious sunken sea

[mystic sandal]

Have you considered it would be really funny to have two major updates titled SSO

[fossil finch]

renaming sulph sea will even allow you to differentiate between ss and ss

[mystic sandal]

(Realistically yeah rename is prob a good idea)

But what would be a good rename anyways

[fossil finch]

wdrk it could be something simple like toxic we definitely do not have the will to make a suggestion or anything we're just Saying

you know what's funnier than alliteration stealing song names call it Wasteland Seas

[keen zodiac]

BOT DEAD FOR 2 WEEKS 🔥 🔥 🔥

[humble sable]

We could rename it "the corrosive sea"

[keen zodiac]

@tulip valve #1178515062030348308

[tulip valve]

oh fuck my bad

deleted as to move it to #1411429148823519305

[rapid pivot]

Any thoughts on a suggestion to add an indicator of how much damage is 'stored' for the Chalice of the Blood God?

[golden sonnet]

Already done for next update actually

[rapid pivot]

Ah, silly me then.

[golden sonnet]

Just means it was a good idea!

[half imp]

As mentioned before, this has been done but I wanted to add that there's also a mod that does it the same way Calamity will in 2.1

It's called Calamity Chalice HP Indicator

that might be of use to you

[gilded citrus]

lmao

[mystic sandal]

ITS ALIIIIIIIVE

[frail fox]

Start voting

[bold crown]

RESSURECTION

[patent nimbus]

gotta feel bad for the first few suggestions getting instantly buried

[grave zinc]

@vestal crater - Your suggestion has received an updated status!

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[urban berry]

NO FUCKING WAY.

[grave zinc]

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[urban berry]

A THING I SUGGESTED CAUSE I WANTED TO MAKE TORTURE MACHINES GOT VOTED

[grave zinc]

@indigo yacht - Your suggestion has received an updated status!

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[gaunt crystal]

oh dear god the bot went crazy

[grave zinc]

@thorn dock - Your suggestion has received an updated status!

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[indigo yacht]

goodness gracious

suggestion jumpscare

[inland saddle]

[gilded citrus]

werent this like
said a few times earlier

[whole tundra]

Ban @grave zinc for flooding 2 channels

[oblique birch]

holy shit

suggestions death battle

[errant wren]

sugg bot when discord basically

[severe sparrow]

finally @grave zinc is back

[tulip valve]

okay so like

hold on

[last shard]

Awh the midas/crackshot didn't get the vote

Damn

[last shard]

That's great though, so I'm very happy

[mint oriole]

oh wowsies ;u;

people liked my idea? i kinda got the impresion when we discussed it was not like a very well though out one >_<;

[indigo yacht]

? it's there

[indigo yacht]

it's not that it's a bad suggestion, just kind of... what bosses would actually have quotes

an acknowledgement that they killed the player (not necessarily by saying something) could be cool though

[mint oriole]

yeyea. more bosses didn't nessesarally mean all bosses

I was thinking yahron, calamitas, exomechs, rather than like... idk poltergiest or queen bee

[last shard]

Nah I mean like the "Devs are looking at/into it" vote like profaned torches did lol

[indigo yacht]

oh

well it literally just got to voting

how would it be passed to the devs

[last shard]

Slime God probs could use them since they never actually do die

[mint oriole]

the bosses who'd have motivations and things to say about killing you rather than those doing it out of mostly an animalisting "this thing hit me, FIGHT RESPONSE ACTIVATE" instinct

[indigo yacht]

all these are from ancient suggestions

[last shard]

Ahhhhh

[indigo yacht]

that just now were moved on (or, more likely, moved on manually by a moderator and the bot is only now reporting them)

[mint oriole]

I thought they technically do cus they become queen slime?

die i mean

not having qoutes

[indigo yacht]

doesn't scal already say something when she kills you? also i dont think yharon can speak english

draedon saying something would make sense though

[last shard]

Draedon makes a lot of sense. Yharon arguably kind of does- just mid-battle via vocals

[mint oriole]

I don't remember, but it's like a prewritten thing in the ingame chat rather than the DoG styled text on screen from a pool of quotes thing

[last shard]

Wait what?

[mint oriole]

ya also wym he can't speak he's BELTING out the PHATTIST BARS while kicking your ass

[mint oriole]

i remember reading somewhere slimegod returns as queen slime

[indigo yacht]

dragons most likely don't have human vocal cords

[mint oriole]

couldn't tell you where tho, so take that with some salt >m<;

[indigo yacht]

this should be accurate, yes

[mint oriole]

well ya but they magic as shit. surely telepathic communication's not above their capability

[indigo yacht]

it flees, makes a final paladin in the form of queen slime but gets like... trapped in it and you finally kill it there

[indigo yacht]

terraria magic is fast and loose

[mint oriole]

yea and dragons in every canon including this one are like the most magicalist beings ever

It's probubly how yahron and yahrim talked in the first place.

and prolly the monks before xeroc did the epic

[last shard]

Damn so I humiliated it via bug so much and then unknowingly killed it with no note/effort thinking it was just a hallow king slime

I almost feel bad

[indigo yacht]

slime god is utterly pathetic and i really hope it gets retiered to post moon lord and becomes an actually interesting fight

i know calamity powerscaling is really weak but come on this is just insulting

[mint oriole]

i mean i don't think it is

it's a mindless creature acting out of self preservation.

[indigo yacht]

it's a god

[mint oriole]

it prolly made queen slime because of how close to death it got

[keen zodiac]

no???

[indigo yacht]

it's not mindless

[last shard]

Ngl I didn't even bother fighting it, I just hung on a rope high up and used Fractured Ark to parry the singular projectile it tossed before dying from some kind of fall damage XD

[keen zodiac]

slime god is a person

was a human

[mint oriole]

wait no i'm thinking of king slime >m<

[indigo yacht]

gotta love fabsol game design

[mint oriole]

bluuuugh brain's on the fogmaxing today sorry ;0;

[last shard]

Tbh it was very much a bug but still

[mint oriole]

a counter-based subclass would be kinda sick ngl

[last shard]

I remember being so confused why it was killing itself so often when I tried fighting it

[indigo yacht]

not like slime god is a good fight when functional

[mint oriole]

I don't have the mechanical sauce to play anything more complicated than summoner, but it'd spawn a bunch of cool lets plays to watch onlne at least >u<

slime god's like if king slime got really into starcraft and main'd Zerg

mechanically speaking at least >_>

what with how many extra fellas you gotta keep track of the longer the fight goes on

luckily i don't play starcraft, which means I canonically have never lost to a zerg rush >:D

[vestal crater]

YIPPEEEE

Fuck that dev in 2019 saying calamity mod isn’t based around building we could’ve got profaned torch way earlier

[mint oriole]

I like building wth calamity blocks

one of the characters i constantly worldbuild for in my head but never write any of it's a remnant of the wulfram people, so I like building the houses outta wulfram earlygame.

[distant gyro]

i think whoever said that is Lying massively

intended way to play the game is a myth

and a lot of work goes into tiles

[plush flame]

something something eutrophic glass wall

[vestal crater]

Yeah also I guess different dev team

More like fabsol(s) instead of fabsol with others cooler devs (not the like very bad non calamity related stuff)

I don’t know who that dev was either way

[frozen kite]

so that’s why people don’t use the # for titles

[novel belfry]

IIRC (emphasis on IF), YuH once claimed that he created CalVal because apparently fabsol didnt value vanity stuff very highly

although im certain that belief had changed, given the existence of the fabsol estrogen supplement that turns you into fabsol

[last shard]

Wait hold on was that locked in as a dev project upcoming yet?

I've been dying to have that

[keen zodiac]

yep

coming to a sso near you

it's already added, so sayeth the changelogs

as a reminder here's the eutrophic glass block spritesheet that's supposedly smaller:

[glass arch]

yeah they're monstrous

[keen zodiac]

whenthe canvas is twice the size of the fucking leviathan spritesheet

[last shard]

Makes me wanna ask for eutrophic glass versions of the water/sand/confetti/lava glass blocks XD

[keen zodiac]

the spriters will kill you and then usher in a thousand years of darkness

[last shard]

Imagine the poor dev looking at that and going "please no"

[glass arch]

ngl they're clear enough as is

like genuinely they dont even have any extra glass texture outside of the border

you wouldnt be getting anything from it

[last shard]

Damn you're right

I'll just have to ask for a brimstone lava version

[gaunt crystal]

YES

[last shard]

The what now

[glass arch]

crystal heart vodka

[grave zinc]

@mint oriole - Your suggestion has received an updated status!

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[mint oriole]

w8 wut @u@

was it supposed to send a second notif

[mint oriole]

all in favor of respriting purple cadence to legally distinct alicorn trixie? :3

[obsidian nova]

Uhh

[obsidian nova]

Also why does it not have bold text in the header

[glass arch]

because the suggestion its referring to also doesnt

it copies character for character the suggestion title, no bold in the title means no bold in the message

[mint oriole]

in otherwords i freaked up ;0;

[tepid crown]

no its fine

[glass arch]

if you messed something up in formatting it would have gotten flagged in posting

[serene vapor]

#suggestions-voting message

I’ve seen rejected suggestions better than this

[glass arch]

ok 👍

if you have nothing to add then add nothing

[grave zinc]

@thorn dock - Your suggestion has received an updated status!

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[Allow Hive Tumors and Perforator Cysts to spawn in space]

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@mint oriole - Your suggestion has received an updated status!

[Kill quotes for more bosses besides Devourer of Gods.]

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[mint oriole]

F

[novel belfry]

"I'm escaping to the ONE PLACE that hasn't been corrupted by cancer!"
the nefarious suggestion:

[drowsy plank]

not surprising at the results of these at all

[gritty plaza]

D:

has the "add more hovering wings" sugg been voted on yet?

[indigo yacht]

could have seen that coming

although tbh i was expecting the "no contest" rather than "almost passed"

[distant gyro]

@polar bison effigies will work like class stations and function off right click so

dont want the buff dont click the item

[polar bison]

Oh shit really

peak

🔒

[keen zodiac]

sso?

[fleet grotto]

It's in the changelogs

so presumably!

[keen zodiac]

nice

[indigo yacht]

a good suggestion obliterated by a change already to be implemented

[frail mantle]

@white stratus known, they just missed it when erasing any traces of fab from the mod

gone next update

[white stratus]

Alrighty, didn't see it mentioned on the 2.1.0 patch notes, so I thought it was relevant to at least point it out, good to know it will already be taken care of

[frail mantle]

[white stratus]

[last shard]

Out of curiosity how much content has been removed entirely versus scrubbed of Fabsol or modified to stay ingame?

[frail mantle]

i think like

three items have been rebranded?

forget the exact number

[last shard]

I hadn't been active at all recently so idk what happened aside from fab getting axed and wiped so

[frail mantle]

actually four i forgot drew's wings existed

other than that all of the direct fab references are Gone

[last shard]

Ah good to know

[gilded citrus]

I wont say since this not the place but its deserved

[last shard]

I figured as much from the whole "remove literally all reference" action

It ain't like Dokuro where there's just bad blood between the groups or smth that's action for severe problems

[gilded citrus]

The dokuro situation was cause of the fans not some internal dev conflict i think?

[keen zodiac]

it was a wombo combo

but mostly fans yea

[glass arch]

imma be real i have never had this happen

the only time ive seen something like it happen was when twins were intentionally spawned after their natural spawn was already slated but before they naturally spawned

[keen zodiac]

i spawned eoc in legdeath gfb and 2 seconds later the natural spawn message popped up

so i was fighting 2 at once for a bit

[errant wren]

clearly the solution is to have a special message in chat for when a naturally-spawning boss appears

[indigo yacht]

this is so easily avoidable that i don't think it's worth dev effort

[errant wren]

"Eye of Cthulhu decided to watch the fight from afar..."

but yeah it's kind of a specific scenario

honestly it might be more fun that way

[indigo yacht]

I'd rather not waste some dev effort trying to change a vanilla mechanic that can allow for the funny just to help avoid a very niche, avoidable scenario

a suggestion to have the message about inbound boss summons come earlier, such as maybe eoc's comes at like 7:20 instead of 7:51 or whatever it was would be better imo

but still not worth the effort

[last shard]

Honestly natural spawns already give a huge delay

And Calamity makes most if not all boss summon items non-consumables anyway

So like worst that happens you die and go again?

[half imp]

I have actually like

Lost multiple low% SCal and exo attempts to EoC spawning mid fight

I think I lost 1 scal attempt and 2 exos ones to it

[errant wren]

damn

[indigo yacht]

how would eoc cause you to lose

is it like, lack of kb immunity or something

[errant wren]

low%

i would imagine it'd be kind of difficult to not kill eoc

[indigo yacht]

oh

well we really shouldn't be changing the game to be based on player imposed challenges should we

[last shard]

Low% is kind of famous in Calamity tbh

Considering it's what, seven bosses?

[indigo yacht]

9

[last shard]

Skipping WoF?

[indigo yacht]

not low%

[last shard]

Yeah skipping WoF is low%

Or part of it

[indigo yacht]

no it isn't

skipping wof requires 11 bosses

or maybe 13 i forgot

i think 11

[last shard]

You can skip WoF and fight Destroyer as your first boss???

[glass arch]

yeah

rox shimmer

[indigo yacht]

how do you plan to get auric ore

[last shard]

Thanks to Roxcalibur

[last shard]

Post Moon-Lord is linear

[keen zodiac]

fishing

[indigo yacht]

with what hardmode crates

[glass arch]

post wof only

[keen zodiac]

provi

[glass arch]

you skip provi in low%

[last shard]

But you go Destroyer -> Ravager -> CalClone -> Moon Lord -> Yharon -> Exo and SCal iirc

[glass arch]

no

[last shard]

Something like that I forgot a step

[indigo yacht]

you're missing dog, cultist, guardians, and provi

[glass arch]

for wofless you do need to add extra bosses on to get auric

[keen zodiac]

yes that's why i said provi

[glass arch]

which means while, yes, you have skipped wof, you have added more bosses elsewhere, meaning its not low% anymore

[last shard]

Ahhhh

Me and my misinformation:

:p

I forget a lot of stuff for later half of Hardmode too much

[glass arch]

its a wofless run, which is similar to low% but has nearly endless deviation potential because the goal in wofless is just to beat the game without ever beating wof, on top of having a larger number of required bosses

[humble scarab]

True

Its better to have the msg at the beginning of the night or before

I never had this happen cuz i usually fight the boss a little later in the night

[past viper]

I just had this happen in my last two playthroughs, granted both of which were a self imposed challenge, its rare, i just thought it would not hurt to implement. The two examples i had was EoC when doing low% Yharon playthrough and EoC during the slime god fight in my last playthrough, where i did slime god as the first boss. But honestly, i can just implement it myself, just put this here in case other players ran into the same issue.

[humble scarab]

I can only see this as a issue in low% runs

Maybe lock their spawn after killing moonlord?

Or any other important boss

[obsidian nova]

Where is this from?

[obsidian nova]

What's AE?

[obsidian nova]

Yeah this sounds good

[golden sonnet]

thumbyoy

[frail mantle]

my own void server

[drowsy plank]

@lapis charm #1178515062030348308

[golden sonnet]

@inland saddle bot dead again

[indigo yacht]

[bold crown]

This bot is constantly being murdered and resurrected

[golden sonnet]

Poor thing can't rest

It just wants to die

[umbral gazelle]

No repose shall await it

[errant wren]

convinced discord is just actively targeting suggbot and/or nycro

[keen zodiac]

sending the hitmen

[mystic sandal]

Good sugg

Just makes sense

[humble scarab]

damn, i didnt know it existed

good suggestion

[gritty plaza]

good sugg

i always forget this exists

[obsidian nova]

Sending the pinkertons

[golden sonnet]

Isn't the whole point of grand Marquis bait to make angler quests better

Putting it elsewhere would just further reduce the reasons to do angler quests

[uncut fog]

i think the idea is for it to be in very very small quantities so that people become aware its a thing

[indigo yacht]

if you got them before 30 quests i would agree with you

but 30 quests takes a horrendously long time

I don't think I've gotten them once and I've done a shitton of angler quests across at least a dozen playthroughs

even with cosmolight and a good setup it is absolutely mind numbing and 15% extra fishing power means very little by the point you can easily get the bait

in its current state i find it to be a completely pointless item

[errant wren]

ok so we add grand marquis bait to all crates post-ml

[latent verge]

As one of the few people who actually does angler quests uses Grand Marquis bait, I'm all for putting it into gold and titanium crates in small amounts. If you still want to make it feel more special for the angler, you can restrict it to titanium crates, but overall, this is an excellent suggestion.

[indigo yacht]

This suggestion has to be invalid but i can't see why it would be off the top of my head

thanks mobile discord for not letting me read the channel description very cool

it's... sort of an SRS?

regardless I don't really like it because of how much it changes your gameplay, and not everyone will want to have it as part of their wing boots

i think sabiton is strong enough on its own to warrant sacrificing a slot for it even lategame

[frail mantle]

not much reasoning here i feel

doesn't really explain Why tracers should have this other than "i want this"

[plush flame]

if you want to fallfast then we have portal gun

[frail mantle]

@marsh sparrow

[plush flame]

fastfall is powerful enough to warrant some sort of cost like having an otherwise bad mount, using an accessory slot, or not being able to attack

[marsh sparrow]

ok

tbh i really couldn't think of a reason anyway

[keen zodiac]

[obsidian nova]

Honestly, this suggestion would be pointless anyways, because we would eventually get a treads/sabaton fusion that would be/act as an alternative to tracers

[glass arch]

would we really though

[frail fox]

Demon boots

[indigo yacht]

🔥 🖋️

[rapid pivot]

tbh, I'd suggest swapping it to titanium crates

you already get, like, tons of master bait from gold crates as is

[errant wren]

#suggestions-posting message @shrewd torrent i appreciate the enthusiasm but unfortunately this is an invalid suggestion

[keen zodiac]

what is it even saying

[errant wren]

it's basically saying

uh

well it's saying...

i think it wants to change progression to have yharon and yharim be on the same tier

(eventually)

[gaunt crystal]

they want yharon to be post exo/scal and have him be in the yharim fight I think

[errant wren]

that could also be the case

[remote maple]

That’s dumb

[errant wren]

well i mean hey that's kinda subjective

i could see a very elaborate and detailed argument for it, but i just don't think that's going to be happening

anyways

@shrewd torrent sorry for pinging again, but this suggestion is invalid since it's asking a for huge change for something that won't be in the mod for at least a good while

[shrewd torrent]

ok..

[errant wren]

that being said, i would recommend that you go ahead and read the suggestions rules document in the pins, in case you still want to make a suggestion for the mod

[fleet grotto]

Rename Supreme Witch, Calamitas to Brimstone Witch, Calamitas

As far as I know, the only reason she still has the title "Supreme" during her boss battle is because it keeps her old shortening of SCal. Otherwise, her being called the "Supreme Witch" means nothing. However, Calamitas already has another title that is actually used: the Brimstone Witch. Hell, even her NPC is called that. "Supreme" is an outdated title that has no reason to still be in the game, and has a very suitable replacement that's already used a lot more.

[remote maple]

Wrong spot amythest

[fleet grotto]

noaur

any like thoughts or something idk

[errant wren]

i'm mostly indifferent to a renaming

[drowsy plank]

the team wants to preserve the SCal name somehow, this was the best they could come up with

[remote maple]

O. I think that’d be neat then

[fleet grotto]

that's fair ig

if even the devs don't want it then i don't find a reason to really suggest it

[errant wren]

hey i got one idea that gets the best of both worlds
sbrimstone witch, calamitas

[fleet grotto]

BitchCal

[keen zodiac]

trur

[remote maple]

NO

[errant wren]

stonebrim witch

[indigo yacht]

i dont think this is ever happening

scal is not going to be renamed i fear

[errant wren]

yeah we said that methinks

[indigo yacht]

ok

[remote maple]

So is he

[keen zodiac]

epic gif fail

[plush flame]

stole my joke

[fleet grotto]

yeah i'm a proud plagiarizer

[dire warren]

why is lance low quality?

[fleet grotto]

don't worry about it

[oblique birch]

Lower quality is better

Make it unrecognizable

[dire warren]

where's my lqwires...

[covert zealot]

I think we should capitalize a different part of the name if the brimstone witch name change were to ever happen

Brimstone witch, Alamitas

or BAl, because we all know she had a history on the NBA

I will see myself out

[indigo yacht]

???

[golden sonnet]

She will never be balling

[novel belfry]

Supreme Pyromancer Calamitas

[errant wren]

raesh when Supreme Baller, Calamitas enters the room:

[golden sonnet]

I guess one of her brothers is balling in GFB

So maybe they could teach her

[misty lichen]

im pretty sure rippers are just a finaldamage modifier?

there is no jank like with damage boosts where lingering projectiles keep or dont receive adren damage, pretty sure they just always get it

[indigo yacht]

it doesn't even mess with weird shit like piranha gun where only the initial damage bonuses count for the projectile, rippers work fine with them too

[half imp]

@severe sparrow the way Adrenaline and Rage works means the damage boost is applied on hit, not on projectile spawn

if you have the rage buff, all attacks deal the extra rage damage. If you don't, they don't

this is true regardless of how long the projectile lingers - as soon a Rage bar ends, it goes back to the normal damage

[severe sparrow]

ah ok

[oblique birch]

the Oracle and Ozzathoth are literally right there

[plush flame]

^

you have a lategame yoyo and a postgame yoyo

[golden sonnet]

@teal yarrow Please read the pinned suggestion guidelines. Not only is this suggestion invalid due to lacking reasoning, but there is already endgame yoyos as mentioned by the users above

[teal yarrow]

I meant it as like a miracle matter weapon but oke ;-;

[severe sparrow]

i believe MM is getting reworked altogether eventually

[teal yarrow]

Plus yo-mama would be hilarious tbh 😔

[golden sonnet]

No.

[drowsy plank]

[dusk stratus]

can there be a calamity mod spinoff where you play as calamitas

like it's a prequel to the calamity mod

[teal yarrow]

HOW would this work in terms of terraria

🤨

[dusk stratus]

it's before terraria

like you get to see all the lore stuff firsthand

[teal yarrow]

But like

Following the terraria progression

Cuz terraria isnt an rpg

[mystic sandal]

It’s not a prequel but there is Reign of Yharim if you wanna see non-terraria calamity stuff

[dusk stratus]

it's a spinoff so i guess it wouldn't

[oblique birch]

there's a game called Reign of Yharim that is in development

[teal yarrow]

What

Fr

Like an entire diff game

[oblique birch]

I think in there you play as a bystander(?) while the main event in Terraria is taking place

yes

basically from a point of view of a stranger

[dusk stratus]

john calamity

[teal yarrow]

What type of game is it

[oblique birch]

who knows

their Discord is in #other-discords

[teal yarrow]

🗿

[teal yarrow]

So uh
No yo-mama? 🥺

[drowsy plank]

no

[teal yarrow]

Awh

Itd be so nice tho

[drowsy plank]

no it wouldnt

[rare spindle]

There should be a toggle where your guns get an overheating feature making it so if you use one gun too much it overheats and either goes on cooldown or does significantly less damage forcing you to switch between guns constantly to avoid overheating or else all your weapons go on cd I feel like it’d be a really good challenge to ranger or somewhat of a high skill expression

It doesn’t even have to be strictly guns it could be any tech or typically unpopular unused weapons where they just get mega buffed in damage or have a really cool effects but now have cooldowns and overheating mechanics

am i tripping or am i just describing the rogue stealth system .-.

[oblique birch]

Too big of a scope, better to just make it be a special mechanic on some specific weapons

[mystic sandal]

Personally speaking I would hate this

I feel like a lot of people want ranged to be so much more complicated than it is and then miss the point of what ranged is trying to be

Ranger is a class about consistency, you have safe and reliable options on all progression stages and many of them are very simple on purpose

And that’s perfectly fine

[humble scarab]

Many will hate this mechanic

Terraria classes are supposed to be simple

[mystic sandal]

Yeah I think stealth is about as complex as entire classes should be

[humble scarab]

Yea

[mystic sandal]

Like you can have complicated weapons

But not classes

(Or subclasses for that matter)

[glass arch]

even then a lot of people still dislike stealth

[upbeat tundra]

Ranger is already kinda shit without a mechanic nerfing it. Needing to aim at the bosses (some of which are quite mobile) already requires a decent amount of skill, which means that they arguably need this the least. They also aren’t gonna rebalance every weapon around this, especially not when Ranger already isn’t very well balanced to begin with.

[drowsy plank]

thorium thrower

[serene vapor]

This is terraria, not ultrakill, I don’t want to be punished for using a good weapon

[indigo yacht]

ranger isn't shit

it's pretty good

very solid damage and fine default survivability

[drowsy plank]

better than mage for sure

[half imp]

Classes being more complex than stealth is fine

However we should not butcher a vanilla class in pursuit of that

[rapid pivot]

Yeah, like.. ranger is the most middle of the road class, probably

All of it's weapons have the same general principle, modifiable via ammo types, give you a solid mix of capabilities at all levels of play. Easy to understand and get into, tough to master.

[upbeat tundra]

Ranger hasn’t gotten an accessory overhaul or tweaks after years of it being a complaint. I wouldn’t hold your breath on any kind of major rebalance or overhaul.

[drowsy plank]

it's getting accessories next update

[keen zodiac]

they're adding a couple accessories next update yeah

[rapid pivot]

I mean.. where are you seeing the complaint?

[upbeat tundra]

Type “Ranger accessories/accessory” in suggestions voting. They go back 7 years.

[rapid pivot]

Would I find a different result if I did that for any other class?

[upbeat tundra]

Not really to the same extent, no.

[fossil finch]

we mean this is ttue of everything

if anything mage needs the accs more

[upbeat tundra]

It’s pretty hard to quantify complaining. At the bare minimum I hear ranger accessory complaints far more than any other class, and noticed it myself.

[rapid pivot]

I just looked up 'x accessory' for mage, melee, ranger, and rogue. There were about 30 messages for all of them.

[fossil finch]

whats even there to really complaina botu u got dawn lily and you got your fifty stat sticks what more u need

[mystic sandal]

daawnlight is very specific but it does have some fun usecases esp with heavenly gale on scal

other than that, admittedly you are mostly just using recon scope and deadshot lol

[inland saddle]

Man

Discord just reversed the order of message requests again

So it was always checking the pinned message first and stopping the checking early

I’m just going to manually sort them myself lol this has happened twice now

[errant wren]

discord wants you dead, methinks

[inland saddle]

I’m getting too old for this

It should be fixed now lol

[drowsy plank]

discord be a functional platform impossible challenge

[bold crown]

He has risen

[keen zodiac]

rejoice

[uncut fog]

Discord devs being forced to slave away at each making at least one change per update so the shareholders can be told that the platform is evolving

[echo leaf]

(the change will cause immense damage to the slaves they're holding hostage on their platform)

[short stream]

Ascendant Insignia cooldown doesn't reset when you die. Is this a bug or just something they haven't noticed?

[idle dagger]

I think this is getting fixed actually

[short stream]

Noticed it while trying to nohit DoG on Infernum (here's how that's going 💀)

[plush flame]

its because its a buffless cooldown from my experience

[obsidian nova]

I mean, theoretically we could still get yharon in there

[obsidian nova]

Wait, for real?

[obsidian nova]

[golden sonnet]

Yes, they launch a basketball projectile that bounces around the box

[obsidian nova]

LET'S GOOO

[gaunt crystal]

iirc the devs said it takes like 10 years for him to hatch

[gilded citrus]

Yea

And also

Yharon would be

Baby

Not adult like we see

[indigo yacht]

why do we use a dragon egg for his summoning item anyways

[obsidian nova]

Pretty sure it's like a fake dragon egg

Especially with the Dragonfolly getting shifted

[indigo yacht]

the Folly.

[gilded citrus]

Summon items arent canon in lore with little exception

[indigo yacht]

ok but like that doesn't make sense outside of lore either

[gilded citrus]

Dragons are often depicted having eggs