I wanna suggest an Auric Waffle’s Iron
#suggestions-discussion
remote maple
indigo yacht
Die
remote maple
Wait is it straight up against the rules
indigo yacht
no reference suggestions
remote maple
Oh no meme suggestions
indigo yacht
drowsy plank
an auric waffle's iron would require base waffle's iron to actually be good
remote maple
I was thinking you would combine Waffle’s Iron with Lava Chicken Broth, 49 Auric Bars, and 1 shadowspec bars. It would throw chicken and waffles that inflict the same debuffs as the broth
remote maple
an auric waffle's iron would require base waffle's iron to actually be good
Is waffle’s iron really not that good?
drowsy plank
drowsy plank
Is waffle’s iron really not that good?
if you're wondering Z tier puts it up with the likes of... wooden sword and paper airplane
remote maple
…why did I think the weapon exclusive to the meme seed would be anywhere near good
IT DOES 50 FUCKING DAMAGE?
remote maple
AND IT ONLY INFLICTS HELLFIRE. AND ONLY 33.33 GODDAMN % OF THE TIME
Now I feel silly for including an Auric Waffle’s Iron into my superboss concept
Then again it is an alt universe player
drowsy plank
lmfao??
half imp
I should buff waffles iron
remote maple
Yes.
crude geode
Buff waffle iron with 5 damage
frail fox
You should nerf it
remote maple
You should nerf it
It does 50 damage.
frail fox
That’s too much
remote maple
That’s too much
It’s still on the fuckin meme seed.
lucid marsh
Give it 69 damage
celest olive
Give it 69 damage
reasonable suggestion
celest olive
That’s too much
its the seed where you get the optic staff from eye of cthulhu
why do you care about balancing
fleet grotto
why do you care about balancing
sarcasm
mild thistle
A
obsidian nova
Give it 69 damage
And make it inflict hellfire with for 6.9 seconds with a 69% chance 
obsidian nova
also it's bad because it's short range and has dogshit damage
Doesn't it have a projectile?
ripe owl
The projectile is quite short-ranged
lucid marsh
Make it longer range
indigo yacht
why do you care about balancing
exactly so give it 3 attack damage
severe sparrow
I should buff waffles iron
make the waffle's iron attack significantly faster lol
than it might actually be decent
hybrid snow
is this real guys should i go on this website guys
gilded citrus
is this real guys should i go on this website guys
No
hybrid snow
liar. i will win my mr beast money
indigo yacht
mr breast
hybrid snow
mr breast give me money
fleet grotto
lol
@unkempt umbra im telling you this because you give me good vibes, this is really not the right place to self promo
weary bane
maybe but it's probably best to see if they even respond
humble scarab
ye
thin hill
but it wasn't spammed in every single channel
that's what I'm saying
indigo yacht
<@523975807404867588> im telling you this because you give me good vibes, this i...
bot
fleet grotto
It's so sad
hybrid snow
bot
user since 2018 and has stuff linked to profile
probably just didnt understand the channel
hybrid snow
truth,.
indigo yacht
maybe hacked
fleet grotto
maybe hacked
probably
errant wren
definitely a hacked account
fleet grotto
it's also the exact same description most of these bots have
That's sad, I was hoping someone like this genuinely just fucked up :c
errant wren
it tends to happen
honestly one of the bigger tells for me is just the inconsistent usage of ' and ’
and how no real person ever says bespoke
dense locust
Iirc the way it’s programmed rn it wouldn’t be able to go over 60 naturally anyway since it caps the respawn time rather than setting it
Still a good sugg though
thin hill
their youtube pfp is ai coded as fuck
yeah it's just AI "art" of shirakami fubuki from hololive
fleet grotto
sad
thin hill
they could've picked any AI anime girl art and they chose hololive members 
whole tundra
and how no real person ever says bespoke
I have to remark my sincerest apologies, natheless, I posses a sumptuous grasp of the English lexicon. Your words do not denote whatnot that grasp beholds.
grave zincBOT
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drowsy plank
8 morbillion points to pre-mech excalibur
it's more like true excalibur will get bumped to post-clone
still works since plant needs to be dead to get broken hero swords anyway since u need mothrons right
oblique birch
instant upgrade after 1 boss twice from Excalibur to Terra Blade 😨
fleet grotto
it feels weird because like anything you do to true excalibur you also kinda have to do to true nights edge. they're counterparts, they should be on the same tier
drowsy plank
if it was my choice id spread them out even more but terraria already has 8 morbillion swords
lucid marsh
it feels weird because like anything you do to true excalibur you also kinda hav...
Vanilla explicitly stopped doing this IIRC
They're a tier apart now I think
gilded citrus
Vanilla explicitly stopped doing this IIRC
One uses all mech souls one uses chlorophyte iirc
lucid marsh
Oh wait I guess that makes them the same tier
gilded citrus
Which is same tier
novel belfry
and well in order to get chlorophyte... you gotta craft a pick that requires all mech souls
that said, they pushed Terra Blade a lil later so uh
lucid marsh
Mech souls and chlorophyte being the same tier always felt weird
That reminds me
Perennial should just be chlorophyte
indigo yacht
it feels weird because like anything you do to true excalibur you also kinda hav...
normal night's edge and excalibur are leagues apart, i don't really see the reasoning why their true version need to be congruent
pure verge
it feels weird because like anything you do to true excalibur you also kinda hav...
I mean all you need to do is also make true night's edge require ashes of calamity and maybe buff it a little if it's too weak for post clone
lucid marsh
True Nights edge requiring ashes of calamity does feel right, as Calclone is supposed to be roughly equal to plantera
Although that means that it needs to be stronger than true Excalibur, which is pre plantera
olive saddle
true nights is ass and imo always will be
olive saddle
i dont mean damage wide
the damn thing is so clunky
which is probably intended on vanillas part
which is very fair
pure verge
cal fixed it
lucid marsh
Oh
olive saddle
cal fixed it
no, they didnt
they removed it following the screen and not the second windup for it
hell they completely missed why it was clunky
lucid marsh
Just because a weapon is slow doesn't mean it is bad
fleet grotto
they removed it following the screen and not the second windup for it
do you not like demon scythe
olive saddle
demon scythe at least does stupid damage for phm which justifies its slow projectile
also it mimicks the demon already which is silly
i personally dont really like demon scythe but its way more justifiable than true nights edge
true excal is generally way stronger anyways
pure verge
true excal is generally way stronger anyways
though that does come at the cost of range
olive saddle
generally good luck hitting anything with true nights edge though but yea it is at the cost of range objectively
also! demon scythe works way differently! it stays in the position you cast it and doesnt awkwardly follow you
remote maple
Dang
hollow shell
Added voice acting to the Frequently Suggested section, sorry I'm late
drowsy plank
errant wren
if i learn how to mod, i'll make it a joke add-on
echo leaf
errant wren
prikki believe me when i say that i would just have ytp-esque word smashing
humble scarab
My mrbeast money
keen zodiac
vanilla issue
gilded citrus
Yeah
whole tundra
vanilla issue
The quote is from Calamity if the player has a Portal Gun in their inventory
indigo yacht
why does calamity add this
languid lava
olive saddle
<@714388228886626355>
this isnt true btw the cyborg sells teleporters now
gilded citrus
this isnt true btw the cyborg sells teleporters now
wait what
olive saddle
yea there was a vanilla spoiler a while ago called "you fell for it" where they talk about the retiering of teleporters and pylons
royal tapir
what
Not concerned about random upcoming 1.4.5 spoilers if they're even true
All that matters is that in vanilla 1.4.4 they are sold by Mechanic
drowsy plank
yea there was a vanilla spoiler a while ago called "you fell for it" where they ...
that update isnt even out they could just as easily move it again if they wanted to
for the current implementation, they're on mechanic
brittle mist
Calamitihh
lucid marsh
Vanilla already has a bajillion contradictory lines of NPC dialogue
indigo yacht
this is cal actually
remote maple
Counterpoint. Who actually plays old ones army. (Me. I do. 😭)
grizzled shuttle
Counterpoint. Who actually plays old ones army. (Me. I do. 😭)
same lol
tepid crown
smthn smthn when summoner rebalance is doneish theyll will decide if this would be a good idea or not or watever
indigo yacht
pretty sure this already has been rejected
ok nvm
or at least it wasn't officially rejected
i have memories of Talking about this before and devs saying they wouldn't do it because of balancing issues
tepid crown
iirc they said they def wont do it now
grizzled shuttle
ah I see, apoligies then, wasnt aware of that lol
tepid crown
and whether or not its fine after rebalance depends on wat exactly theyre doing to ooa and sentries as a whole
indigo yacht
i see
drowsy plank
ah I see, apoligies then, wasnt aware of that lol
this was already done once and was so busted they had to revert it
grizzled shuttle
really? I wouldnt have thought iit would be, but that goes to show what I know lol
misty lichen
theoretically this existing isn’t a problem with the armor set but the weapons using it being too good
like it wasn’t ever the armor sets fault really
indigo yacht
i think the penalty should be inverted
summon does full damage, the held weapon only does 0.75x or something
idk if that would make more sense though or be more balanced
worthy lintel
more sense yes, more balanced no
because then held weapon would turn into actual free dps
indigo yacht
because then held weapon would turn into actual free dps
isnt that sort of the point though
but yeah
worthy lintel
thats the consequence of summoner being integrated as an intended standalone class
it loses free dps perms
worthy lintel
bizzare world we live in
lucid marsh
Hey so like
Why the hell not just...
Make summon weapons have worse base damage, and make whips and other summon gear buff them back up
north oracle
Would probably need to be WAAAAAAAAAAAAY weaker
^ this
with how we plan to balance summoner, it would have to be around 1/3rd damage (so it had about 1/3rd contrib)
north oracle
Make summon weapons have worse base damage, and make whips and other summon gear...
wow this is literally how balancing summoner works
gritty plaza
what if
hear me out
we balanced the summoner class
and we made it into a big update
indigo yacht
no
misty lichen
not drake gif
indigo yacht
if
half imp
we removed classes altogether
Back to the roots of the game woo
lucid marsh
^ this
with how we plan to balance summoner, it would have to be around 1/3rd da...
Awesome! Finally! I have argued in favor of doing this so many times, and I was told that it was stupid or impractical.
oblique birch
finally?
coral carbon
Awesome! Finally! I have argued in favor of doing this so many times, and I was ...
i think you misread that
lucid marsh
Oh. Maybe
lucid marsh
wow this is literally how balancing summoner works
I'd like to ask for clarification: will you be doing that? Couldn't you just balance summoner the right way?
cinder patrol
lucid marsh
The minions can still be most of the damage, just indirectly by being buffed
This can happen instead of the nerf
If they already did that, the nerf wouldn't be necessary
distant gyro
what
first off that assumes the current balance is perfect that its possible to knock 20 base damage off every summon weapon and turn them into 20 tag
spoilers: its very much not
the point of summoner balancing now is precisely that summoner in its current state is not balanced
you can do that and summoner is just as unbalanced as before
lucid marsh
Who said anything about tag damage?
distant gyro
second off calamity is a mod and there is an established baseline for how much minions and whips should be doing??
lucid marsh
all you have to do is make the combination of all summon gear (perhaps the armors and tag) to buff summon damage by some percentage
you don't need a specific numerical value
distant gyro
the idea is the same
lucid marsh
yes, but it should be doable
distant gyro
the point of summoner balancing now is precisely that summoner in its current st...
if you shift around the numbers to keep the relative balance the same it doesnt solve patient zero
summoner currently is not balanced
lucid marsh
oh, of course
distant gyro
contribution shifting is not solving it
novel belfry
yknow
lucid marsh
but you can do it in a more consistient and easy way
novel belfry
maybe we should just stop randomly yelling at the devs about our cool new way of actually balancing summoner once and for all
its a bit
annoying at this rate
lucid marsh
one way or another, summoner will need to be balanced someday
you're best off making it as easy for yourself as possible by not relying on some bizarre conditional nerf
distant gyro
its gonna hinge on 1.4.5 (or whatever that updates gonna become)
lucid marsh
fair enough
distant gyro
thanks to its slew of new whips
and whatever fabled modifier is
please dont make it stupid???
i hope relogic is not causing some insane disaster right now
theres a non zero chance fabled is something like +1 minion slot while you hold the summon item and i dont see how that reality pans out
lucid marsh
haha yeah fair enough
lucid marsh
theres a non zero chance fabled is something like +1 minion slot while you hold ...
oh that would be so weird. Really good early game but really shit late game.
distant gyro
that one is a complete wildcard
coral carbon
maybe we should just stop randomly yelling at the devs about our cool new way of...
he does this with everything 
no real point to talking about it
novel belfry
i mean, if he was dying constantly to Messmer the Impaler in the background, I'd certainly understand.
(This is me rn)
FINALLY
IM FREE
north oracle
theres a non zero chance fabled is something like +1 minion slot while you hold ...
Ykw I'd kinda accept that it would mean we wouldn't need to give an extra base slot to help with balancing
crude geode
Fans when the reference isn’t completely accurate
umbral gazelle
Fans when the reference isn’t completely accurate
TRUE
grizzled dome
but what if it's actually a reference to Sakuya's World?
crude geode
It still wouldn’t be accurate
umbral gazelle
homing knife, uhm idk what can it reference to actually
closest i could think of is this weapon from Soul Knight because it does home on enemy and jump between them
coral carbon
holy semantic suggestion
errant wren
i won't get too far into it but stellar knife works more like hol horse's and/or mista's stand(s)
but uh
we're not doing that
ever
remote maple
Who the hell cares. It’s funny, let it be
keen zodiac
idk why it got flagged but a full summoner rebalance is already happening in sso 2
umbral gazelle
idk why it got flagged but a full summoner rebalance is already happening in sso...
no, mine suggestion
keen zodiac
where
keen zodiac
if you just wait someone will tell you
umbral gazelle
a
umbral gazelle
so, can the suggestion to remove reference use an original source image
umbral gazelle
ill try it sometime soon but without using original source
umbral gazelle
post the sugg here for now
Remove or change the tooltips "ZA WARUDO" from Stellar Knife
I assume the lines is meant to be a reference to JJBA Part 3, in which DIO use timestop, throws a knifes, unstopping the time and cause a knifes to be accelerated, this however is vastly different to what Stellar Knife does, as in the original show, knifes dont spread, home in at enemy nor spin and instead being threw directly at enemy. I'd suggest to Remove or Change the tooltips because it is inaccurate to the original show.
i attached a manga panel demonstrating how the knife work in the original show but idk if that is a reason for ❗
crude geode
Do you remember who it was that put it on
umbral gazelle
Do you remember who it was that put it on
cog i think
crude geode
Ah
Byeah, this is probably the reason it got flagged
likely falls under the latter
umbral gazelle
oh i see, maybe the Change tooltips was likely the reason
drowsy plank
i dont remember flagging that one
umbral gazelle
i dont remember flagging that one
wait, it was other cog
the one with terraria shark as pfp
errant wren
you mean CiT?
umbral gazelle
you mean CiT?
i think so
keen zodiac
yeah that's cit
errant wren
sorry cit you've been relegated to cog 2
north oracle
congrats on gay
I think that's it
keen zodiac
yeah that has to be it
tepid crown
maybe we should just stop randomly yelling at the devs about our cool new way of...
no trust me im the one thats know how it works
lucid marsh
he does this with everything <:hdflr:1216214022630936658> no real point to talki...
Me? Honestly fair enough maybe I should shut up about things
north oracle
maybe we should just stop randomly yelling at the devs about our cool new way of...
but hear me out what if you just nerfed all the weapons so they didn't do too much damage
and then hear me out again the whips could make the summons stronger
olive saddle
what if you just removed summoner
tepid crown
and then hear me out again the whips could make the summons stronger
wat if sentries were optional bonus damage
north oracle
ok they now deal 1/8th the damage of summons preboss
(RBP has 1 base damage and no debuff)
tepid crown
the steampunk one?
grave zincBOT
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distant gyro
whens the last time youve seen that
dense locust
this suggestion quite literally came to me in a dream
indigo yacht
rename to magical worm
umbral gazelle
rename it to Scourge of The Universe...,,,,
ripe owl
chat am i cooked
humble scarab
that might be decent
indigo yacht
makes no sense thematically and imo is completely unnecessary but isn't invalid as far as i know
ripe owl
I mean I would've gone with the labs but 1. there's virtually no overlap between Draedon's tech and wulfrum tech and 2. by the time you find the labs you don't need wulfrum
and idk, it feels natural to me to have it in chests
hybrid snow
i think this would be cool for all 5 minutes until you get sick of seeing wulfrum scrap
i guess chests are like this anyway though 
ripe owl
i think this would be cool for all 5 minutes until you get sick of seeing wulfru...
yeah exactly
open inlet
im ngl this sounds like you got unlucky and decided it was the game's fault instead of just run of the mill bad luck
ripe owl
nah
I got unlucky, recalled all the times I got unlucky and thought "hmmm this might be a decent idea"
but I definitely should reword the suggestion
tepid crown
i dont think ive ever not had scrap
ripe owl
yeah but have you ever not had enough scrap?
actually you know what, the scraps problem is easily solved with a thing you literally craft with scraps
I forgot about the wulfrum pylon or whatever that thing was called that summons hordes of wulfrum enemies
tepid crown
I forgot about the wulfrum pylon or whatever that thing was called that summons ...
wulfrum amplifier (previously called pylon) spawns enemies alongside it and supercharged them, the lure is the tile which can be used with an energy core to summon certain wulfrum enemies
ripe owl
yeah, the lure
errant wren
#suggestions-posting message the nefarious clay mining
gilded citrus
Arent bricks like the only consumable rogue item staying consumable
indigo yacht
i think they just mean the starter bag
dusty atlas
Arent bricks like the only consumable rogue item staying consumable
but the entire concept of consumable weapons (NOT AMMO) is flawed
indigo yacht
ok nvm
dusty atlas
i think they just mean the starter bag
then what is the point of their existence altogether?
indigo yacht
idk i didnt add them
remote dune
i think its funny how, if i recall correctly, in the next major update, all the consumable rogue weapons are getting changed to non-consumable.. except the brick lol
gilded citrus
i think its funny how, if i recall correctly, in the next major update, all the ...
Yeah pretty sure
keen zodiac
correct
pulsar barn
hey im new to this server so i dont really know if this is a common discussion or anything but, how do we feel adding base stealth to demonshade armor?
plush flame
demonshade already has plans
pulsar barn
oh i didnt know mb
plush flame
nah its fine
pulsar barn
ty tho
plush flame
it requires some looking
pulsar barn
👍
gilded citrus
oh i didnt know mb
Theres a document in the pins of #calamity-update-talk that has a lot of spoilers so you can easily find future plans
fleet grotto
also always check if your suggestion is in #changelogs or if its in #suggestions-voting
errant wren
honestly pretty based to have asked before doing anything
hybrid snow
Love a respectful question
pulsar barn
ok thank you guys!
hollow shell
<@714388228886626355> - Your suggestion has received an updated status!
[**Move...
Damn is this the first bluecheck in like 2 years?
holy shit I was right
If anything I undershot it, it's been 2 and a half
tardy geyser
Orderbringer is getting reworked anyway
errant wren
dust spam is now gfb exclusive
drowsy plank
<@370949490636488705> See: https://discord.com/channels/225030931008847874/13649...
should this just be 🔒 in voting then?
hollow shell
lock or even checkered flag depending on the interpretation of the dev applying it
or, an exclam in posting depending on the patience of the dev applying it
((checkered flag looks better, makes it seem like they're listening )) /joke
remote maple
I’m probably never going to post a suggestion.
Mainly cause the only suggestion i think isn’t stupid as hell/against the rules is an upgrade to Tundra Leash
distant gyro
i used ymd and i feel called out
keen zodiac
altix robot confirmed??
gloomy pivot
Hello guys, I am new to Calamity and I noticed that some items have "donor item" tag. I have googled it and it is said that those items are meant for players that have donated for this mod and non-donor cannot get those items. I am using also that magic storage mod and in that magic storage there is option to craft items from those boxes and I have the ability to craft those donor items. I have no idea if that is a bugg or it is known thing.
indigo yacht
you misunderstood
the items were dedicated to the patreon donors and made according to their specifications
but that's all
they're just normal items
gloomy pivot
Ohhhh. Sorry english is not my native speaking language so when I have read that "donor item" were made for Patreon donators I thought that only those people can get those items.
frail mantle
nah there's no restriction on that
the closest to that would be like
a select few weapons having different visual effects depending on your character name
well i say "a select few" but i don't think there's more than one in cal
gray bone
meow
gilded citrus
hybrid snow
wrong server
the meower cannot be contained
royal tapir
wrong server
This guy
olive saddle
he tripped and fell in the back of mcdonalds
remote maple
I’ve posted in suggestions posting for the first time
tepid crown
u prob shouldnt mention previous iterations of your suggestion
tepid crown
also i would make it a lot more generalised
remote maple
Edited
hybrid snow
this could be pretty dope
remote maple
I just want mounts to be more useful and to get a tundra leash upgrade
drowsy plank
i dont know what this is asking for
we already have stronger versions of flying and falling mounts
drowsy plank
I just want mounts to be more useful ~~and to get a tundra leash upgrade~~
if you want a tundra leash upgrade, why not just use the basilisk mount
remote maple
if you want a tundra leash upgrade, why not just use the basilisk mount
Because the basilisk isn’t a Rimehound
drowsy plank
you just want a mount vanity slot
remote maple
I want my big doggy
drowsy plank
sadly this is a Red Issue for Vanilla
remote maple
Damnit.
drowsy plank
unless someone really wants to make a mod for it lol
id say it's out of scope for calamity
remote maple
Still, I wish mounts were more useful. And more active in combat
remote maple
id say it's out of scope for calamity
Fair enough
drowsy plank
reverting the mount nerfs would be nice yeah
drowsy plank
calamity
remote maple
WHY
drowsy plank
mount nerfs, like removing dash into unicorn, and the slime mount horizontal nerfs
distant gyro
i dont think those exist anymore
drowsy plank
good
distant gyro
except slime
drowsy plank
fair
distant gyro
but slime kinda had it coming
drowsy plank
this is true! i love overcentralizing metas
idle dagger
What about slime mount was nerfed anyway
fleet grotto
Horizontal speed
indigo yacht
This guy
meow
this suggestion bad imo
i would prefer just making mounts passably useful rather than an upgrade system
remote maple
That would also work
The suggestion started as an upgrade to tundra leash then expanded
That’s why it’s upgradable mounts instead of actually decent mounts
indigo yacht
i think calamity should make Minecart Upgrade Kit an accessory instead of a permanent upgrade
that would save calamity
remote maple
Mehhhh
What about a perm upgrade that buffs mounts in general
Like making honeyed goggles mount able to shoot stingers
JUST FUCKING ARM THE MOUNTS
fleet grotto
i think calamity should make Minecart Upgrade Kit an accessory instead of a perm...
so incredibly useless
just something you put in vanity and swap on whenever you do a minecart
remote maple
Instead we need either a perm boost or accessory that makes the mounts able to attack
drowsy plank
why
drowsy plank
Instead we need either a perm boost or accessory that makes the mounts able to a...
you do realize there are already mounts that attack and no one uses them right
remote maple
you do realize there are already mounts that attack and no one uses them right
I mean actual attacks, not contact damage
remote maple
Or charging
remote maple
We need more that can attack then
remote maple
I meant more active attacks tbh.
drowsy plank
Like shooting stingers with honeyed goggles
how is this any different from the other two
remote maple
You have control
lucid marsh
you do realize there are already mounts that attack and no one uses them right
People would use them if they didn't suck
remote maple
Exactly
indigo yacht
You have control
so Basically you want "weapon but worse and more inconvenient"
I'd prefer the automatic attacks
errant wren
item that upgrades specific mounts to be ever so slightly better for movement
indigo yacht
I'd prefer the automatic attacks
it's literally just more interesting to play with
errant wren
slime gets a miniscule amount of horizontal speed
indigo yacht
gelatinous pillion for scal
lucid marsh
This all seems very unnecessary
errant wren
the bee mount gets one extra second of flight time
lucid marsh
Just... Keep mounts as they are in vanilla and balance them a little better
indigo yacht
you know, if i had a nickel for how many times i died to sepulcher because of gelatinous pillion, I'd have two nickels. which isn't a lot but its weird that it happened twice
errant wren
Just... Keep mounts as they are in vanilla and balance them a little better
if you couldn't tell, this was a joke
i don't know any case where someone would use the bee mount over normal wings
lucid marsh
Yeah true
indigo yacht
mounts should have a niche of movement that can't be emulated by other accessories
like, witch's broom and all the mounts that work like that
errant wren
golf ball type mount that isn't capped in speed but you have to hit it each time like a worse version of getting over it
indigo yacht
mounts should have a niche of movement that can't be emulated by other accessori...
or i suppose upgrades to other forms of movement, like slimy saddle and unicorn mount
bc mounts like honeyed goggles are just "what if wings but dogshit"
errant wren
if it's a bee i feel like it should have draedon chair movement on some walls
but that'd be dumb and
indigo yacht
it should spawn honey behind it as it flies
errant wren
flood the world
errant wren
equipping full bee set and bee wings makes honeyed goggles give summons knockback
indigo yacht
add this to the game immediately
half imp
@wide hull this has already been done
wide hull
Oh??
half imp
did you search in suggestions voting
wide hull
Yeah, in whole server lol
half imp
infiltrator is literally the title
wide hull
i just thought this up and you guys already did it before i even suggested it
amazing development speed
half imp
true!
hearty yew
I agree with this
I wrote a lot of draedon's dialogue initially (shayy did the rest iirc?) and I feel like an idiot for not making him use ISO format by default
Like why did I not think of that
indigo yacht
welcome back uninspired stat sticks
rampart has no precedent for debuff immunities, and i do not consider the names being thematically similar reason enough to worm it in there
the 50% health thing is alright i guess they are similar design choices
oh, and also just because an accessory doesn't combine with other accessories doesn't mean it needs to. this isnt fargos souls
frail fox
Frost Flare is one of the accessories to exist
indigo yacht
can we just rework it into being interesting
instead of trying to cram it into an accessory with next to no relationship
remote dune
I really dont get the idea behind the Frost Flare + Rampart suggestion. Just merge a boss-drop accessory from early hardmode into a post-Yharon one? By that point in the game, the player already has the Asgardian Aegis, and there are several more accessories that grant immunity to the same effects. The cold-resistance and frostbite infliction mean next to nothing at that stage of the game.
golden sonnet
wait frost flare merged with Rod of Discord?
frail fox
Took me a second to realize also
fleet grotto
I wrote a lot of draedon's dialogue initially (shayy did the rest iirc?) and I f...
if ozzatron agrees then i agree
hearty yew
I really dont get the idea behind the Frost Flare + Rampart suggestion. Just mer...
not to mention rampart's identity is already extremely flimsy as is
throwing in more shit is definitely not going to help lol
frosty trellis
On one hand rampart does need something
But on the other hand I don't think this is the correct way to approach it
Conceptually it's fine but I also don't like just Conditional Effects The Accessory for something fucking post dog
frail fox
Rampart of Deities Parry or something
drowsy plank
why
glass arch
this is called a scarf dodge
drowsy plank
did you know every debuff is actually just a reskin of every other debuff bc they're all just mild damage over time
errant wren
reflect the projectiles then
idle dagger
Rampart of Deities Parry or something
I hear word that this is actually what is happening
dense locust
did you know every debuff is actually just a reskin of every other debuff bc the...
whispering death:
frail fox
I hear word that this is actually what is happening
That’s why I mentioned it yes
grave zincBOT
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half imp
Orderbringer is being reworked
so that's why this has been locked
@glass arch I have already changed the star projectile on both Deific and Rampart to be significantly better
they actually do stuff now
I won't lock this even if it gets to voting though, but I did want to note that the stars being a useless remnant is not the case anymore
hollow shell
~~wait frost flare merged with Rod of Discord?~~
same thought
half imp
@thorn dock Frost Flare is slated for a rework in the future, although not in 2.1
it's not a super set in stone plan so I won't lock this suggestion when it gets to voting, but note that it is very likely to be locked or vetoed once it gets to dev server due to this
remote maple
Frost Flare is one of the accessories to exist
Frost what? Wait isn’t that from cryo
ashen warren
how dare you not be able to tell the 5 cryogen themed accessories apart
frail fox
Unforgivable
kind laurel
did you know every debuff is actually just a reskin of every other debuff bc the...
Sorry, I guess I worded it wrong
They have the exact same DoT (-4hp/s,) no difference.
drowsy plank
im just saying sometimes that's done for flavor
im not sure why you'd want to make one better than the other unless ur saying to make brain rot deal more damage or something? but the fights already seem fine
i guess maybe for player inflicted sources that change could be made, but otherwise i dont really get it
kind laurel
I just feel like it’s pointless to have two different symbols for the same debuff
remote maple
how dare you not be able to tell the 5 cryogen themed accessories apart
Shove it up your ass
Sorry, I just went to the gym, I’m sweaty and cranky
idle dagger
<@867914116134744106> I have already changed the star projectile on both Deific ...
oh fr?? i made a suggestion about making them do anything relevant a few months ago
that's awesome
oblique birch
they now fire a ring of homing stars from the player
cool
half imp
similar stars to what astral pike uses
it's not a huge glow up but at least you can both actually see the stars and they actually have meaningful contribution
oblique birch
okeee
idle dagger
i assume their damage was buffed
hybrid snow
sadly this is a Red Issue for Vanilla
solid 12 hours late but wasnt this also a thing with music box slots lol
indigo yacht
when is hook vanity
keen zodiac
when is hook vanity
what
indigo yacht
when
this bow suggestion is so stupid lmao
well, the suggestion itself is fine i guess
but the reasoning is circular and also complete nonsense 😭
@ashen warren you need to format your suggestion properly
bold crown
but the reasoning is circular and also complete nonsense 😭
wdym?
indigo yacht
wdym?
you're saying that it should have another weapon in its recipe because it's a night weapon (it's not), then you're also saying it needs to be renamed into being a night weapon presumably (in part) because of the former point
bold crown
Is it not meant to be a night's weapon? It follows the same style of recipe by needing previously obtained weapons, which in this case are also obtained the same as the components of nights edge (crimitane/demonite, hellstone, queen bee). Additionally, it's made with purified gel and at a crimson altar.
Also, you craft it into a post plantera weapon with living shards, a fact the other three night's weapons share
errant wren
ok so
__lunar__ian
and i think that falls a bit into srs territory
only a little
not quite
indigo yacht
Is it not meant to be a night's weapon? It follows the same style of recipe by n...
i mean like, maybe? but it's thematically completely different so using that as the crux of your argument is sketchy, you should probably use what you just said as your argument
bold crown
__lunar__ian
I do get that, it's by no means a large problem, it's just weird the other two weapons added by calamity have the word night in their name but this one doesn't
errant wren
it just doesn't really seem like an issue
bold crown
True, it really isn't a big one, just weird
keen zodiac
many things in calamity are just weird
bold crown
i mean like, maybe? but it's thematically completely different so using that as ...
Everything i just said shows how it is thematically the same.
indigo yacht
i think a weapon's sprite, name, and method of attacking is more important for its theming than it's crafting recipe
anyways i should mention that rogue doesn't have any sort of "night" weapon (unless I'm forgetting it) so the precedent isn't as weighty as it might be
keen zodiac
anyways i should mention that rogue doesn't have any sort of "night" weapon (unl...
it does not
indigo yacht
i think a weapon's sprite, name, and method of attacking is more important for i...
both these weapons use two earlier obtainable weapons with 8 cosmolite bars and 20 nightmare fuel at a cosmic anvil to craft but as far as i know they're not intended to be related at all
keen zodiac
it's obviously different for night/terra weapons cmon
indigo yacht
my argument is that the name and design and sprite of a weapon are what makes it some arbitrary "night" or "terra" weapon, not its crafting recipe
bold crown
It's clearly following the same theme. I mean, it's one of the only pre hm weapons that are crafted at an altar.
It's something it shares with the other night weapons
drowsy plank
we should remove a bow from it and remove lunar from its name
fuck the night weapon set
it sucks
me when we NEED to have a purple weapon made of one previous weapon from world evil, jungle, hell, and dungeon each
what if instead of that we made something actually interesting instead of just copying melee's homework again
tepid crown
fuck the night weapon set
fuck weapon set
indigo yacht
me when we NEED to have a purple weapon made of one previous weapon from world e...
its not even purple
it's yellow and blue with a tiny smidge of magenta
indigo yacht
yeah night's edge is just purple and black
tepid crown
also i love how the only night weapon to get true versions are stabber and bloody edge
both of which are dead now
hybrid snow
It's clearly following the same theme. I mean, it's one of the only pre hm weapo...
theres also just no dungeon bow to add to the crafting recipe unless im forgetting something
so for it to actually even fit with the rest of the night weapons youd then also have to add another weapon purely for the crafting recipe
which uh, seems unnecessary
and probably a reason why its not a night weapon in the first place
olive saddle
i think the concept of night weapons as a penultimate weapon of phm is super cool but i do think they should all have different theming.
ive always been of the opinion that if there are more zenith weapons then they shouldn't look like the zenith, but take on their own style
tepid crown
i agree
which is why lunar bow, even if a bit boring, is at least slightly better than the rest of the night weapons
olive saddle
i do agree with that
i do think mage can kinda get away with it because nights ray sounds cool but definitely not the summoner weapon
does rogue even fucking have one
tepid crown
no
olive saddle
tepid crown
even tho they could have one
olive saddle
rogue is very much something
tepid crown
even tho they could have one
infernal kris and shinobi blade
and next update theyre getting spore knife
so a dagger orientated rogue night weapon could work
undone cedar
The night set is the shadow lance, night’s edge, and demon scythe
indigo yacht
this suggestion is probably invalid but ngl i kinda like it
lyric depot
I had multiple play throughs having HotE but they've only been sitting in the vanity after I defeated the first boss (which was dragonfolly)
errant wren
explode this individual
lyric depot
Idk if anyone uses it other than extra dmg or unknown buffs I dont know about
errant wren
oh that was fast
keen zodiac
I had multiple play throughs having HotE but they've only been sitting in the va...
sugg too long
errant wren
Idk if anyone uses it other than extra dmg or unknown buffs I dont know about
you see the HotE is actually a secret nerf to players who can't focus because of them
"focus"
(man that sugg was wild)
dire warren
i've never used hote after my first playthrough
remote maple
Compress ur shit dude
indigo yacht
(man that sugg was *wild*)
wait which one was it
dire warren
the novelty wore off quick
indigo yacht
the... earlier one right
lyric depot
Ok cool, but like seriously, I want to use HotE and be useful for once
Like, please tell me they're you're gonna buff them or smth
errant wren
wait which one was it
(resprite the elementals to "not have assets" because it was distracting them)
dire warren
(resprite the elementals to "not have assets" because it was distracting them)
i'm fine with that aside from rare sand, i guess?
i'm reluctant to even say that because the amount of time i used hote amounts to 0,2
lyric depot
(resprite the elementals to "not have assets" because it was distracting them)
Not my beautiful assets man 😭
indigo yacht
(resprite the elementals to "not have assets" because it was distracting them)
ohhh right
plush flame
what if hote was 5 rare sands but they spawned orbs that healed 3hp instead of 15
errant wren
it was actually kind of crazy
dire warren
what if hote was 5 rare sands but they spawned orbs that healed 3hp instead of 1...
more menial job to collect them
dire warren
(just move around longer)
lyric depot
Compress ur shit dude
Do none of ya'll have the attention span to read it or is this a new rule I'm not aware of?
indigo yacht
i prefer this one
#suggestions-voting message
errant wren
Do none of ya'll have the attention span to read it or is this a new rule I'm no...
1000 character limit
dire warren
i'm a sucker for sand elemental to become ancient monolith from ebf
rare sand can stay, or outright removed, i don't care
remote maple
Do none of ya'll have the attention span to read it or is this a new rule I'm no...
Character limit
dire warren
the others' fates are sealed, so i also don't care
lyric depot
I should've suggested it to be pets or smth
Making it weapons would be too much for ya'll
dire warren
I should've suggested it to be pets or smth
Making it weapons would be too muc...
install cal vanities
keen zodiac
Do none of ya'll have the attention span to read it or is this a new rule I'm no...
the bot can't process that much text
dire warren
miniature elementals exist as pets
lyric depot
the bot can't process that much text
Can I edit mine to fit?
dire warren
yeah sure
lyric depot
Whats the word limit?
keen zodiac
pins google doc
dire warren
having 2 levitating ancient monoliths'd be funny
errant wren
Whats the word limit?
1000 characters
lyric depot
Ok I tried reducing it as much as possible
fleet grotto
definitely under the limit now
indigo yacht
I'm pretty sure the reason only summoners use it is because it deals summon damage
errant wren
maybe get rid of that last sentence
dire warren
I'm pretty sure the reason only summoners use it is because it deals summon dama...
rare sand does have a niche as a healer
never used it though so i'm skeptical
lyric depot
I'm pretty sure the reason only summoners use it is because it deals summon dama...
Yah, which is kinda redundant for an accessory
indigo yacht
how so
lyric depot
Like, I know there are other accessories that has minions to attack for you, but it's not as bad as HotE
dire warren
maybe i should try using hote solo against moon lord
fleet grotto
Would you say Statis'' Curse, an accessory on the same tier, is redundant because it is only for summoners?
errant wren
i don't think that's the point they're making
dire warren
i think hote is ok
lyric depot
Statis curse actually gives you buffs, HotE? No, not that I know of
dire warren
it's fine, i don't think hote warrants changes
errant wren
passive dps in what could also just be a weapon
lyric depot
Ok I wouldnt say redundant as it's not the word I'm looking for
dire warren
damage is fine for an accessory and it does have utility that isn't clogging up your screen
errant wren
the one counterpoint i could raise would be fungal clump
lyric depot
It's more of "it should be something else"
lyric depot
the one counterpoint i could raise would be fungal clump
I was gonna mention that in the suggestion but I forgot about it and it would be too long
errant wren
what even is the dps output of HotE?
dire warren
so you want hote to be an infected remote-esque weapon right?
indigo yacht
Like, I know there are other accessories that has minions to attack for you, but...
why not suggest changing the damage type to be classless then?
lyric depot
what even *is* the dps output of HotE?
Like, the four other elements? Idk
errant wren
Like, the four other elements? Idk
i feel like that might be crucial information for reasoning
lyric depot
why not suggest changing the damage type to be classless then?
Because it does summon dmg idk. And it's a summoner accessory
I feel like it would fit
indigo yacht
it's only a summoner accessory because of its damage type
lyric depot
It would act like mirror of Kalandra as a single summon that consumes certain amount of slots
indigo yacht
if you change it to be classless then it can be an all-class accessory
lyric depot
if you change it to be classless then it can be an all-class accessory
You're right on that one, but how does that fit into the other classes having their own fighting style? (Aka, manual style)
indigo yacht
realistically, all the classes fight in the same way
certain weapons switch up the formula but there's not exactly sweeping differences between classes
except for like
true melee
lyric depot
Except summoner, in which has your minions fight for you unless you're a whip build
indigo yacht
that genuinely changes nothing
lyric depot
When elementals of an accessory fights for you, it definitely sounds more like a summoner item than multiclass.
It even has changelogs changing it into a pure summoner item, might as well make it a weapon atp
Unless it has future plans, I don't see a reason why not to make it a weapon except for little extra dmg/decorational purposes.
Emphasis on LITTLE
glass arch
oh its got future plans
remote maple
In #calamity-update-talk please
glass arch
Tell me
i dont know if they're set in stone or the specifics i just know there are plans
indigo yacht
why only deep diver and none of the other rams
thorn dock
Legitimate question
You think giving rams in general the true melee property is a good idea?
crude geode
Isn’t true melee dying soon™ anyways
thorn dock
Is it?
crude geode
Being replaced with “heroic”
Meant to be a more all class thing to help weapons that struggle against bosses
keen zodiac
Isn’t true melee dying soon™ anyways
not that soon
errant wren
hence the ™
indigo yacht
You think giving rams in general the true melee property is a good idea?
not necessarily
I'm asking why you think only deep diver should
remote maple
How the hell does my dumbass suggestion have 10 stars
indigo yacht
trueless
indigo yacht
why is it even typed damage in the first place
presumably bc of soc
indigo yacht
it's just a shame we won't have funny rogue stealth around to play with it, if the type is removed
bold crown
and probably a reason why its not a night weapon in the first place
that would be a good reason, but they ignore this for the nights ray. Magic gets no early jungle or hellstone wand and so they added the wand of frosting and amber staff into its recipe to compensate
glass arch
nights ray was also not initially directly a nights weapon considering it was added during the time we still had crimson variants
(also mage does in fact have a hellstone wand lol so that statement isnt correct anyways)
drowsy plank
that would be a good reason, but they ignore this for the nights ray. Magic gets...
this is better than it being a night weapon
i hope night's ray gets a name change
i think that is the plan anyway
glass arch
(also mage does in fact have a hellstone wand lol so that statement isnt correct...
and said hellstone wand is also older than nights ray so you cant make the argument that it wasnt added as part of the recipe because it was added after nights ray
novel belfry
lunarian bow is a very nice name
glass arch
and if you wanna go really semantically petty mage also has a jungle wand in mana rose (though the argument of it being added after does apply there)
novel belfry
switches up the whole night weapon theming into a moon based one
actually
they should just do that
glass arch
let them all be uniquely themed!!!!!!!!!!!!
otherwise its replacing one variant equivalence set with another!!!!!!!!!!
bold crown
(also mage does in fact have a hellstone wand lol so that statement isnt correct...
hellwing staff?
glass arch
yes
bold crown
oh, it is a wand
novel belfry
otherwise its replacing one variant equivalence set with another!!!!!!!!!!
who cares, at least it keeps it away from being corruption themed
glass arch
nights weapons ARENT CORRUPTION THEMED
drowsy plank
it's not even corruption
novel belfry
or at least being SEEMINGLY corruption themed
half imp
Isn’t true melee dying soon™ anyways
Questionable
glass arch
we agreed on this WHEN WE REMOVED THE CRIMSON VARIANTS ALMOST TWO YEARS AGO
drowsy plank
night's is part of dark lance's hell themed set
half imp
why is it even typed damage in the first place
SoC and Solar are both melee in vanilla
glass arch
solar makes sense its directly part of a melee armor set
soc is the odd one out
half imp
Questionable
Specifically: True Melee might not be dying entirely, but still used for some things to differentiate effects
a la Hide of Deus stars
Heroic would be separate
half imp
solar makes sense its directly part of a melee armor set
soc is the odd one out
This makes me wonder
Dang it plaguebringer armor does summon damage with the ram
it would have been hilarious was it melee
remote maple
Make it melee
drowsy plank
dont do that
indigo yacht
yeah, dont make it melee make it true melee
drowsy plank
make it deal thrower damage but not rogue
fleet grotto
WOAH MR BEAR
royal tapir
@fleet grotto Altix did this already when they adjusted Blood Orb recipes in general
bold crown
Isn't it still 40 though?
distant gyro
that reminds me why do alcohols even have blood orb recipes like half of them are ale
frail fox
When you're too lazy to farm unicorn horns so you get 40 blood orbs instead
frail fox
Bless you Sunny
distant gyro
whatever go my brewery system
frail fox
Go my cloth drink
distant gyro
Bless you Sunny
legendary blood orb convenience
frail fox
It's convenient if you have a surplus of blood orbs but very little glass to spare!
umbral gazelle
Bless you Sunny
in what situation do you need scorching ore in your drinks 😨
novel belfry
in what situation do you need scorching ore in your drinks 😨
coffee
distant gyro
mineral water
umbral gazelle
true
distant gyro
Literally
umbral gazelle
bold crown
lol
fleet grotto
<@849797201185079296> Altix did this already when they adjusted Blood Orb recipe...
40
indigo yacht
Add more cats to calamity
I see no way this could possibly backfire
keen zodiac
your wish is my command
catboy xeroc
novel belfry
canonically xeroc was a catboy before he became god
gilded citrus
Catlamitas
gray bone
celest olive
why is the dark spark not aimed right its angering me
its not shooting the beams out of the tip
fleet grotto
why is the dark spark not aimed right its angering me
Donor wants it that way
olive saddle
kinda based donor
make copy of weapon
aim it the wrong way
literally two tiers later
done
master of ragebating
keen zodiac
why is the dark spark not aimed right its angering me
it's a blatant reference to dark side of the moon
indigo yacht
@pulsar burrow read the suggestions document in pins/channel description
half imp
it's a blatant reference to dark side of the moon
Oh my goodness
how did I never know this
That's so obvious
keen zodiac
tbf i didn't either until someone pointed it out but i'm very much not a music person
indigo yacht
i love music but i only listen to artists nobody has heard of or video game soundtracks
pulsar burrow
<@1152588560801726576> read the suggestions document in pins/channel description
so i should have gone to calamity art discord instead?
keen zodiac
so i should have gone to calamity art discord instead?
you need an actual reason other than "it would be cool"
that's like
the main thing
also your suggestion is improperly formatted
and you don't really explain what you want
half imp
I do agree this would be cool but I'm not up to the task of making it work
Fighting vanilla code yikes
keen zodiac
john code my gravity globe
hybrid snow
who is john code
indigo yacht
my brother
royal tapir
Wow it's John Code and John Cat
pulsar burrow
you need an actual reason other than "it would be cool"
okay
ripe owl
Wow it's John Code and John Cat
Who would I be if I were a John?
indigo yacht
Wow it's John Code and John Cat
🐈
indigo yacht
Who would I be if I were a John?
John Zavaraski
indigo yacht
good suggestion i think
obsidian nova
i think the concept of night weapons as a penultimate weapon of phm is super coo...
Nadir:
obsidian nova
Ok cool, but like seriously, I want to use HotE and be useful for once
Like, pl...
I think it would be pretty cool if the HotE was reworked into a summoner weapon, it would work similar to the mirror or temporal umbrella (aka only having one elementsl of every type at a time)
obsidian nova
the others' fates are sealed, so i also don't care
Que?
tepid crown
Nadir:
nadir is actually older than zenith
so like
that whole thing was unintentional lmao
obsidian nova
Yeah but you gotta agree that it fits your idea pretty much perfectly 
obsidian nova
miniature elementals exist as pets
Where? In Vanities?
indigo yacht
i wonder if anyone will actually vote for this
i hope so it frustrates me immensely
just feels like an ancient relic from like 2017
or something
indigo yacht
just feels like an ancient relic from like 2017
thats not even that old
ok apparently it was from 2018
tepid crown
2018 boss design...
frail fox
Well actually
tepid crown
that does not make it better
frail fox
2023 boss design
indigo yacht
Well actually
(afaik this was just a bug fix)
gilded citrus
fabsolian boss design
frail fox
(afaik this was just a bug fix)
Very necessary fix for defiled players
indigo yacht
we need to make defiled great again
errant wren
fabsolian is a great synonym for bad
anyways
make weak petrification completely remove wing time 
drowsy plank
make weak petrification reach through the screen and break your hands
good luck moving now idiot
royal tapir
It pretty much did everything it could to destroy vertical movement in the past already
drowsy plank
@pure verge what does this mean
drowsy plank
i know what multiclassing is what is this suggestion even asking for
pure verge
encouraging it
indigo yacht
seems too broad/too much effort
drowsy plank
there's already generic armor sets like reaver and accessories, explicit multiclass sets like forbidden, frost, gem tech, and you can just like. use more than one weapon if you want so like
pure verge
seems too broad/too much effort
yeah I kind of expected that
drowsy plank
what are you trying to say
drowsy plank
single classing is what needs the incentivizing that's why everything is designed around it
otherwise you could just use whatever weapons you want
pure verge
honestly thinking about it I have no idea what I was thinking lol
drowsy plank
like you can already multi class and it's strong bc u can say fuck class limitations
use summon staff with a mage weapon and armor while also having a high velocity gun to apply ichor with bullets or something
like that's already good
indigo yacht
tbf that's mostly just summoner + mage
drowsy plank
you do regen mage and use the gun while ur mana is recharging
indigo yacht
fair
pure verge
you do regen mage and use the gun while ur mana is recharging
when I saw regen mage I immediately thought about that one exploit you could do with the life drain
drowsy plank
i dont know it
thorn dock
Asgardian aegis is kimda the only lategame acc and must have for resistances.
I think adding resistances to another lategame dash acc could be beneficial/ balancing?
It holds tons of resistances and nothing comes close
indigo yacht
Asgardian aegis is kimda *the* only lategame acc and must have for resistances.
...
why another dash accessory?
this has actually come up before but people usually suggest moving it to rampart because rampart is a little bit weaker overall and also fits the theme well
thorn dock
Not another
Thought about adding laudanum to statis void sash? Ninjas a master in the craft of poisons and therefore also beeing educated in antidotes
Would perfectly fit the design and could help getting closer to asgardian aegis
indigo yacht
that would make it locked behind revengeance mode which i don't think the developers like the idea of
thorn dock
Activating rev mode is easy right? You could just farm slime King for example
It easily obtainable
indigo yacht
that's besides the point and anyways you still can't get it on classic
i don't think the developers want people swapping difficulties but only temporarily for an accessory that's meant to be accessible
thorn dock
Do ppl even play classic
again you could just open another map and farm it super fast there
I dont see an struggle
indigo yacht
Do ppl even play classic
yes
quite a significant number actually, more than i expected
indigo yacht
laudanum is already part of a crafting recipe anyways
you can go ahead and suggest it but I'm 90% sure it will be shot down by developers
thorn dock
It would grant resistances to another late game dash acc + it perfectly fits the ninja theme
I like your opinion but I would like to get another one on this
indigo yacht
how does an addictive painkiller fit the ninja theme
grizzled shuttle
summoner currently is not balanced
apoliigies for replying to an old message, but not balannced weak, or not balanced strong?
oblique birch
Summoner is the strongest class right now
drowsy plank
will admit, aegis being the bandaid for vanilla debuff design and also just having a million billion resistances is kinda fuckin weird
indigo yacht
why the fuck does glove of recklessness give stealth regen
isnt it the spam one
ok actually it could maybe swing either way now that i think about it
frail fox
Rog 💔
indigo yacht
Rove of Glecklessness
glass arch
Asgardian aegis is kimda *the* only lategame acc and must have for resistances.
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the thing is
the only reason its really considered a must have for resistances is because some of the effects it gives immunity to suck complete and utter ass
which is something that can be changed
its a lot less of a bandaid to make stoned a not horrible debuff than it is to add immunities to a different lategame accessory
thorn dock
will admit, aegis being the bandaid for vanilla debuff design and also just havi...
Indeed
For some reason it offers 33(?) Resistances?
2nd place offers 15, but isnt even close to an endgame item
Adgards valor aside, since its the same line
Without considering the aegis line or the rev items,
hide of astrum deus makes the 3rd place, offering 4 resistances... 😅
lucid marsh
Hey, idea: what if the aegis line made you just very resistant to debuffs, instead of immune to them
While specialized accessories and/or armors provided full immunity
For a basic idea, it could be something like...
Aegis:
Debuffs that modify controls, vision, or stats (blindness, confusion, broken armor, ect.) have their duration reduced to 1 second and you gain temporary immunity to each one after recovering from it.
Debuffs that deal damage over time have 75% reduced damage and no longer nullify your life Regen.
How does that sound?
crude geode
Sounds like people would still just default to it at every opportunity
crude geode
will admit, aegis being the bandaid for vanilla debuff design and also just havi...
It’s because aegis is one of the accessory lines of all time
mystic sandal
i think itd make most sense to have the asgards line make you immune to like, the annoying debuffs youd really rather just not deal with at all
stuff like confused, mighty wind, poisoned, silenced, stoned, etc
while other accessories could have the more impactful immunities like holy flames
glass arch
Sounds like people would still just default to it at every opportunity
yeah
because its not the debuff immunities that make it good
it would still be ridiculous even without the debuff immunities because of the simple fact that knockback immunity and a ram