#suggestions-discussion

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echo leaf
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They do...

teal yarrow
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unlike some others like murky paste

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just imagine a solar veil cape that acts as wings
or just plain silk furniture

drowsy plank
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why dont we just kill the overhead

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i know perennial is getting a significant rework we could just replace the perennial stuff with interesting items instead

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also like i dont think chloro and reaver need MORE overlap

fleet echo
worldly saffron
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reaver helm and headgear are really nice sets as is tbh, but pretty much everything else perennial is in some desperate need of reworking

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so I hope not

echo leaf
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visage is also peam

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the entire reaver set is great

prisma sedge
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I feel like this has been suggested before

whole tundra
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Figured I slightly edit the post and repost it as Fabsol is gone now

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It got posted over half a year ago and did not make it to voting anyway

worldly saffron
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yes paintings šŸ’—

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love the idea of depicting locations and characters before the events of the game

indigo yacht
drowsy plank
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if perrenial dies can we just make chloro post-plantera

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also im not sure if this is because the weapon is weak i think it is because it is an instragrade

indigo yacht
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so it would be weird to try and give one a niche

drowsy plank
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yeah they're literally identical but one is just Better

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pheonix blaster...

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2!!!!

indigo yacht
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give excalibur projectiles

analog nest
tepid crown
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make excal drop from the first mech you kill (and also make it unshimmerable until all 3 r dead)

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done

analog nest
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Yes

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Great idea

severe sparrow
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i find it funny that Excalibur in Calamity is completely pointless

analog nest
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But it’s so sad 😭

indigo yacht
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deja vu

drowsy plank
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it's just like handgun in vanilla

indigo yacht
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why do we care about excalibur though

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honestly

severe sparrow
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because they nerf its speed dramatically (i think for more damage)

severe sparrow
analog nest
indigo yacht
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I'm not sure that's true

drowsy plank
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nah i mean the rest of them are fine

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they do different things

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chloro shotbow and hallow repeater are different

severe sparrow
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i like Gungnir

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an upgrade to it would be cool

drowsy plank
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yeah and gungnir is true melee while chloro partisan is a projectile weapon

indigo yacht
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do we really need excalibur to be a viable weapon when it would probably just end up being upgraded after you kill mechs, rather than letting other true melee weapons shine

drowsy plank
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gungnir already upgrades into botanic piercer

indigo yacht
analog nest
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Hallowed repeater

drowsy plank
indigo yacht
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you already know the solution I would suggest

drowsy plank
analog nest
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Damn

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Well

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I’m just an Excalibur fan girl

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I gotta do more research next time, I thought I was so smart walking in here

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I love the feedback though

indigo yacht
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why not just make excalibur a boss/mod drop or something and remove the crafting recipe

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i know that cal doesn't like doing that to vanilla items and frankly I don't either

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but it would be less jank than some of the other solutions

drowsy plank
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actually looking at post-mech1 melee maybe the excalibur from first mech thing isn't a bad idea............

indigo yacht
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submarine shocker my beloved

analog nest
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Ik there’s already a sword in the stone but you could totally put it in a stone maybe when the hallowed generates? Like a structure, or next to the shimmer, and your only worthy after you defeat one mech boss or defeat wof

frail fox
drowsy plank
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brimstone sword is good but even the vanilla ones are kinda like

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man what are we even doing here

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yelets

indigo yacht
drowsy plank
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mushroom spear

indigo yacht
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also wtf mushroom spear

frail fox
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Mushroom Spear my goat

drowsy plank
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truffle shop

indigo yacht
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i have not seen that weapon in ages

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actually insane

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is it even good in vanilla? I don't remember

drowsy plank
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every time i see inferna cutter on here i die a little on the inside

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no i dont think so

indigo yacht
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😭

severe sparrow
indigo yacht
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post mechs i fear...

tepid crown
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which is

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hallowed

severe sparrow
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Gungnir is pretty much better in most ways than MS spear

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thats why it is almost never used

indigo yacht
analog nest
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I have included feedback in the suggestion

muted geyser
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Oh crap you are a genius, honestly I forget about the vanity slot , 5 stars for genius on you dude, and also it wouldn’t require that much (or any) farming you gotta kill yharon like 8 times to get every weapon and accessory for your class anyways

thorn dock
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Thinking about a suggestion for the unused forbidden armor

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Iirc it doesnt even appear once in the class setup guide for the entire HM

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I think it soley has some place for invasions and thats it

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Saw the reaver minion suggestion and thought that might be a good idea for forbidden armor too, giving its minion any kind of attack, to somehow get atleast close to mollusk armor (since the sandstorm doesnt really cut anything for these fights), in terms of early HM Boss Fights

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These are its bonuses, calamity add non summon damage penalty if a magic weapon is used

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Niche active skill paired with overall low set bonuses

hollow shell
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Do you think you should clarify that the sandstorm tornado ability doesn't "count" as the kind of attack you're thinking of?

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I assume you mean an active automatic attack like the Chlorophyte Crystal

thorn dock
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Think that was obvious

hollow shell
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Maybe

thorn dock
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Should I rewrite it to some kind of passive attack perhaps?

crude geode
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Yeah

thorn dock
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šŸ‘Œ done

hollow shell
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Aight nice thank you

thorn dock
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Youre welcome

novel belfry
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or honestly

thorn dock
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Mollusk just does too well over a decent span, also embracing beeing used on different classes. Kinda direct competition

novel belfry
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make the sandstorm actually last instead of disappearing when hitting an enemy 3 times

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make it a real sentry

drowsy plank
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tornado is already good but yeah i think that would make it actually like

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not a pain in the ass to use

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the tornado projectile could probably die too just make it spawn at the cursor

thorn dock
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Any Kind of adjustment is appreciated, competition is just too good. Ppl just leave the set behind in current state

dense locust
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forbidden is fine as a hybrid set

thorn dock
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It kinda isnt really nice to use in my opinion, other sets outclass it easily.. atleast what I think

dense locust
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I mean are you using a hybrid build?

thorn dock
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It also has no mention in the class progression guide, other vanilla sets are frequently listed

thorn dock
dense locust
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in said setups its comperable if not outright better than daedalus even without using the storm

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at least from what I tested

grim tusk
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at first i thought it was forbidden circlet and was like this is exclam, but forbidden in general is fine

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altho this is probably a šŸ”’

crude geode
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Suggestion bingo returns

grim tusk
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im surprised we recently got a sugg that literally fucking beat exolotl in terms of rule breaking

keen zodiac
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which one

gilded citrus
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Which one

grim tusk
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was on monday i think

keen zodiac
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i remember it happened but forgot specifically what it was

grim tusk
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i remember it was a SIS, SRS, multiple suggestions at once, no reasoning, recipe, specific values, reversion, Zenith sugg

gilded citrus
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Oh that kinda rings a bell with zenith sugg

frail fox
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Gonna say there’s a 95% most of these changes get removed eventually anyway

novel belfry
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okay all i hope for is early hm enemy nerfs get removed becuase it completely neuters why i like early hm

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which that its a massive difficulty spike anyways

echo leaf
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I think I can concur with a lot of these

novel belfry
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that said "respawn timer being 3 seconds when no boss is active, vanilla tool (mining) speed changes" being on the chopping block scares me because uh

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these changes are nice

echo leaf
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blood orbs and accelerated respawn time are very welcome

amber rover
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don't have to disable them if you like them, thats the point of a config :)

novel belfry
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true

echo leaf
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oh, oh I misread the suggestion

novel belfry
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now that i think about it

echo leaf
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YUeah if there's a config option to turn that sorta thing on or off then I'm much more interested in letting them go

frail fox
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Also can’t you already set your respawn timer in the configs or is that something else, or is it just stupid

novel belfry
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something else probs

amber rover
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yeah, i get theres loads of people who like this and people like me are in the minority. i just enjoy the progression between bosses and building more, and im coming back to the mod now that fabsol is gone and seeing all these changes is just a bit much. no hate if you like them, and the weapon differences and stuff like that are cool n all

amber rover
echo leaf
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yeah, even if blood orbs were fabsol's idea i'd really hate to see them go

amber rover
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idk why, i just like the longer respawn during normal gameplay as well

echo leaf
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(ask me about my blood orb farm!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

willow widget
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i hate them with a burning passion

echo leaf
willow widget
novel belfry
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anywhow

willow widget
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i'd rather fishing be more involved

echo leaf
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why afk for 42 hours when i can afk for 42 seconds...........

willow widget
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than having blood orbs, cuz blood orbs are like peak lazy imho

frail fox
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Just fish for blood orbs all month

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Very fun

echo leaf
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it was fun to optimize a blorb farm

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plus it makes getting them in really big quantities easier

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for a normal playthrough getting the important ones normally would probably be faster

crude geode
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Ok but blood orbs are inherently replacing two other activities in the game

novel belfry
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Okay but, currently the best farm for blood orbs is blood moon fishing

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also, gotta mention this again

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NOT EVERYONE LIKES FISHING

willow widget
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i think fishing should have like some use

echo leaf
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how many blorbs/hr can a strong bloon fishing farm get?

novel belfry
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as in you can just fish out the blood fish enemies and they drop more blood orbs

willow widget
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like even if its JUST for potions

echo leaf
novel belfry
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especially dreadnautilus

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dreadnautlius drops a metric ton of blood orbs

echo leaf
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I do not like mining for Cryonic and stuff

echo leaf
novel belfry
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im fine with fishing sure, but i also like fighting enemies and especially bosses to farm a resource en masse

echo leaf
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i built a blorb farm which kills enemies. gets around 3,000 blorbs per night, plus sellable drops for extra cash

novel belfry
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thats the cool shit

gilded citrus
echo leaf
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about 60

idle dagger
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I think dreadnautilus drops like 160+

gilded citrus
idle dagger
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maybe more

dense locust
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you could remove the true melee boost entirely and nothing would change

echo leaf
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hold on my math is like

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really, really bad

novel belfry
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true, but i think removing something out right is a bit sad

echo leaf
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uhh

novel belfry
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especially since... yknow

echo leaf
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okay my math was really bad

tepid crown
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replace it with nothing scarf doesnt deserve it

echo leaf
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it's not 60 blorbs/s, it's 5.55 blorbs/s

novel belfry
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issues with one particular dash accessory being busted not just because of its dash being especially op, but also because its pretty much a must-have defense accessory

echo leaf
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i do agree that the scarf's true melee damage is kinda ???

novel belfry
echo leaf
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especially since true melee can use rams to make close combat free-er

tepid crown
echo leaf
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but is a counter scarf sugg okay? it's dedicated content

novel belfry
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no thats the upgrade

tepid crown
novel belfry
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thats actually why i avoided mentioning evasion scarf

echo leaf
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Ah

novel belfry
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cos

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yknow

echo leaf
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Okay I'm like

novel belfry
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(also why is it still called counter scarf)

crude geode
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Holdover probably

willow widget
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#1 blood orb HATERS

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ong

indigo yacht
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The only part of blood orbs i like is that you can get them from blood moon fishing

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i think thats cool

novel belfry
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I think we need to have ravager drop blood orbs clearly clueless

drowsy plank
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blood orbs are now a dedicated blood moon fishing enemy drop does this fix it

willow widget
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post polter and we're good clueless

indigo yacht
willow widget
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it'd be so cool if fishing was awesome

indigo yacht
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i don't mind terraria fishing

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i think it's well overhated

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it's definitely not good by any stretch of the imagination but it's fine enough

willow widget
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i think the issue is that you start with absolute dogshit

indigo yacht
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just boring

errant wren
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i'm like one of the 6 fishing players

willow widget
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which pushes you away from actually doing the good fishing

indigo yacht
willow widget
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like really

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eater of souls is like not good

indigo yacht
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calamity just hands you really good bait and a super good fishing rod right off the bat

willow widget
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and thats why everyone skips to golden

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honestly

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just buff fishing rods in general

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i think that'd be a pretty good change

dense locust
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golden rod should be like 65 tbh

willow widget
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honeslty more maybe

indigo yacht
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personally

willow widget
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100 ong

indigo yacht
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i would make fishing power less effective, but then... i guess give the player a base fishing power? if that makes sense

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idk how to word this

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fishing power does less but you also catch fish faster and better by default

willow widget
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ways to get more bobbers

indigo yacht
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i was making a fishing overhaul mod

errant wren
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10 base fishing power, then make the actual power less powerful

willow widget
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cuz one is soooo sooooo sooooo slow

indigo yacht
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except it doesnt actually make fishing better it just makes it worse

indigo yacht
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how do you feel about summoning every boss duke fishron style

willow widget
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silly

errant wren
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is that even still relevant?

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it's been years since i've played with it

willow widget
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no clue

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like if i want to fish i need mutant mod

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cuz holy shit one bobber is so painfully slow

indigo yacht
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i fish without any qol

willow widget
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awful

errant wren
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it's slow with no fishing power

indigo yacht
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i don't fish without golden rod

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I'll say that

willow widget
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so true

indigo yacht
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i wish alluring bait was vanilla

willow widget
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but thats just true tho

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alluring bait is awesome, being able to catch multiple potion fish is awesome

indigo yacht
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it's dumb for them to add staff of regrowth and alchemy table but not have an equivalent for fishing

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yeah

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maybe I'll make an actually serious fishing mod sometime idk

willow widget
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add stardew fishing bar to terraria....

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or something along those lines

indigo yacht
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i was thinking about it

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maybe a config option, it'd be good practice for making guis

golden sonnet
misty lichen
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why would you do that

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i think that’s a terrible idea for balance sobs

golden sonnet
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it already has a hit cap

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and a duration limit

thorn dock
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Best way to get an astral desert if the Meteor didnt hit the desert?

willow widget
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clentaminator + astral solution

prisma sedge
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Something worth noting is that the repair unit is going to get a cage in the future, presumably in the next update

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I'd assume that'll extend to nanodroids, but I'm not as sure about that

sleek sable
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i see

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do i need to compress it more

glass arch
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no

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checking it rn its at ~880 characters which is under the limit

thorn dock
willow widget
sleek sable
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#suggestions-posting message
for this one i can agree with, but some vanilla changes are good
though if people don't see that, they can always disable it

fleet grotto
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i think the contact damage change is strictly a good change but idk

sleek sable
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same

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makes it make sense

fleet grotto
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it allows for more fun and interesting gameplay

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strategies

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running through crabulon for instance (i always do that)

sleek sable
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yea but it is wonky at points
like the armed zombie can't hit you when in the air

prisma sedge
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Wait, really?

sleek sable
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it may have been fixed

fleet grotto
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ipointed that out once eand made an (unpopular) suggestion about it

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still not fixed no

sleek sable
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oh

sleek sable
olive saddle
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its jarring and weird and throws me off so much

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its also explained no where and can leave people confused as to why they didnt die

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and then die because they're confused

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i very much wish there was an option to turn that shit off

novel belfry
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i think the real issue is that its so ubiquitous

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and yet theres ZERO indication that an enemy is able to contact damage you or not

olive saddle
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that too

novel belfry
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IMO uncontact damage should be a boss-specific feature

olive saddle
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its weird and jarring and theres no indicator as to when and its explained no where and its just a mess of a feature

prisma sedge
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Personally, I appreciate it on slimes

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Getting randomly hit by them while running across terrain is just more annoying than anything

misty lichen
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and it still happens

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all the change did is make them not a threat 80% of the time

indigo yacht
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if it's moving towards you usually it will deal damage

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i think contact damage changes make survival outside of boss fights more dynamic since now there's an extra dimension to enemy encounters

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at least, in earlygame

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it doesn't really matter later in the game

errant wren
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the whole contact damage thing is kinda eh because like

misty lichen
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it’s whatever it was just way overdone

errant wren
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you can also just not get close enough to experience it

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i don't remember the last time the no contact damage thing saved me, if it ever did

lavish condor
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I feel like at it's best it's "oh neat" and at it's worst it causes confusion and maybe mod conflicts

novel belfry
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I appreciate it for stuff like Crabulon, but like

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ye

errant wren
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maybe if it was just, better, or something

lavish condor
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it doesn't really have a purpose for existing other than "it's not realistic for these enemies to have contact damage" in a game where there's a rainbow biome with pixies and unicorns

errant wren
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i mean for enemies that stand still i get it

misty lichen
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it’s another calamity vanilla change that’s like

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ā€œok i guess?ā€

errant wren
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i think the problem is mostly just that it's not... visually apparent?

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i don't really know what the problem is with it

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i mostly just stay away from everything either way

lavish condor
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unless you like spend the time to learn when an enemy has contact damage and when it doesn't then treating it like a dark souls boss it's better to just treat it as always having contact damage

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and cal gives you enough strong weapons and defense and enemy nerfs that learning enemies isn't at all necessary except for very very early game

indigo yacht
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regardless of implementation the reasoning for it was obviously not about fucking realism

gritty plaza
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What's the problem with 3s respawn time

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"oh yeah I love staring at my screen doing literally nothing for 15s, riveting gameplay"

errant wren
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doesn't give the enemies enough time to run away with your money, obviously clueless

hybrid snow
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Which kinda defeats the purpose of like

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Losing the fight

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Other than that though i can't think of a single reason to have a 15 second respawn time 😭

gritty plaza
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But boss respawn timer is longer than normal anyway

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Last time I played it was 15s until the boss despawned then it jumped to 3

hybrid snow
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Wait the default timer is 15 seconds?

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Ohh

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Yeah that's what I'm saying

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if the respawn time while a boss is alive was only 3 seconds a lot of bosses wouldn't despawn in time

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But I agree 15s is annoying in any situation

mystic briar
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Hey guys, is there any good mod to make my world seem beautiful? Like remnants mod. Just heard that remnants mod is risky and can delete some of the calamity biomes

gritty plaza
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And yeah remnants does mess up the calamity world gen iirc

hybrid snow
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elemental blaster is shit it deserved the axe more than anything in this mod ā¤ļø

olive saddle
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^

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boring ass weapon

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also this is a reversion suggestion

amber rover
# gritty plaza What's the problem with 3s respawn time

personally I don't like it, I think it makes dying in regular gameplay feel less impactful, in multiplayer even more so as you can die during exploring with a friend, respawn, then come right back (with full hp!) to help, which might not be possible in vanilla. I get if this isn't a big deal for some people who are more focused on boss fights but that's why I suggested this being a config option. no other big content mod does this change, and obviously vanilla is balanced around those things which calamity changes

gritty plaza
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How does being forced to wait for 15 seconds make it impactful

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It's just boring

amber rover
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I've just given an example? it makes it impactful the same way you aren't able to respawn instantly as soon as you die - time passes, enemies move, gameplay gets affected during that time

olive saddle
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i wouldnt mind if the respawn time was 10 seconds but three deels a bit much

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15 is a while but 3 feels too quick

amber rover
olive saddle
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i will say respawning was a bit annoying later down the line, mostly with moon events in a no calamity playthrough

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otherwise respawning being 15 is fine

amber rover
river lily
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"add the removed thing" suggestion

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@main oxide Your suggestion dosen't provide any actual tangible objective reason why re-implementing the blaster would be good other than your subjective liking of it. Removed content was removed for a reason

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..How'd they even "Readd" it? Superradiant slaughterer is quite literally a rework of it.

fleet grotto
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second elemental ranger weapon!!!

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i will admit that i like the elemental blaster

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feels like a remnant of old calamity that was satisfying

distant gyro
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i will remember elemental blaster for blasting your eyes with that one use sound

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i mean ears

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fuck

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functionally you

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use sdmg with chlorophyte bullets i guess

severe sparrow
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yeah my ears wanted to die whenever i used that thing

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it also had terrible visuals and was incredibly boring

fleet grotto
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i liked the visuals

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it just felt nice to use

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(but this is no way me supporting this suggestion i just liked the weapon)

severe sparrow
severe sparrow
fleet grotto
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it was one of those good dated things imo

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like storm surge (literally my favorite ranger weapon)

severe sparrow
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i agree storm surge is pretty decent

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its visuals arent bad

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it isnt a bad weapon overall

drowsy plank
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also imo homing dust blaster looked awful and played awful

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i do not know why you would want it back

frail fox
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Adding it back to annoy cit

hybrid snow
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He specifically commented on my use of it on guardians clueless

hybrid snow
drowsy plank
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3 for 3 on being terrible

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it just needed a bad sprite and it would be completely irredeemable

fleet grotto
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redeemable to me...

hybrid snow
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Perhaps the least controversial weapon rework in calamity history

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Except for this guy I guess

fleet grotto
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if there are 10,000 elemental blaster fans, i am one of them
if there is one elemental blaster fan, i am that fan
if there are no elemental blaster fans, consider me dead

hybrid snow
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The worst hill to die on

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This has to be rage bait

olive saddle
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im an elemental blaster fan too...

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except the sound

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weapon and sprite were cool though

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the newer version is better but id be lying if i said i didnt appreciate the old one

hybrid snow
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The weapon was just a dust gun 😭 😭

olive saddle
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the mindless homing for free was so nice

hybrid snow
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I guess that was a redeeming quality

fleet grotto
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superradiant slaughterer is just better though lol

gilded citrus
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Chlorophyte sdmg with rainbow dust over it

whole tundra
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I liked Elemental Blaster

Was it interesting enough to stay? No

frail fox
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I escaped thankfully

royal tapir
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I’d win

hybrid snow
olive saddle
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it was uninteresting and mindless fun

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hold m1 and look in the vague direction

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stupid and dumb weapon

hybrid snow
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hence good riddance

indigo yacht
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oh only for boss fights

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Nycro's Nohit Efficiency has an override that works at all times

tepid crown
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@formal arrow u shouldnt mention previous suggestions in your suggestion

indigo yacht
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^ technically future content

formal arrow
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word? mb

indigo yacht
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this suggestion is fine but the reasoning rn is kinda just "it would be cool" so you should probably fix that as well

formal arrow
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main reasoning was ā€œthere really ain’t much here rnā€ but i’ve adjusted to accentuate that point

drowsy plank
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actually the more i think about this the more i believe ele blaster might've been one of the worst weapons in the game

hybrid snow
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4 for 4 on things that made this weapon dogshit

tepid crown
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its peak cuz i said so wdym

grim tusk
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also why tf do you want blaster back?

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just use sdmg with chlorophyte or smth if you want to turn off your brain

grim tusk
hybrid snow
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its one thing to like the blaster, its batshit to me to prefer it over the rework 😭

tepid crown
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i havent seen anyone complain about butcher being turned into buzzkill

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or speed blaster rework

indigo yacht
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butcher was dumb as fuck im glad Its dead

hybrid snow
idle dagger
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I'm crafting a sugg right now to make bloody worm tooth generalized to all classes instead of melee only
There isn't a severe lack of melee accessories pre hard mode is there? I feel like there isn't

indigo yacht
hybrid snow
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nevermind i hallucinated that

idle dagger
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not that I'm seeing

indigo yacht
tepid crown
indigo yacht
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it's now occurring to me how many fucking accessories rogue has

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jeez

hybrid snow
indigo yacht
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there's 4

hybrid snow
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oh you said

indigo yacht
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one of which is counter scarf

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so that's basically all class

hybrid snow
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are there any ranged accessories pre hardmode?

indigo yacht
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1

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it's ass

hybrid snow
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right

indigo yacht
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well, it's probably fine for preboss but not much later

hybrid snow
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i think melee has a bit of an overallocation of accessories rn

drowsy plank
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rusty is like

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fine

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it's ok

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it's not dogshit anymore but there's no real reason to use it over just like. shark tooth. or luxor's

tepid crown
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just make it look good

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duh

drowsy plank
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it's really funny
ranger's accessory situation is so bad that even the few it does have are like. actively detrimental to run

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like rusty is just mid, quiver is actually worse than most generic damage boosts because it doesnt effect ammo like they do, etc.

tepid crown
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magic quiver?

idle dagger
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how many accessories does mage have prehardmode

idle dagger
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Isn't like an immense amount technically speaking

drowsy plank
hybrid snow
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if i post a suggestion thats just "buff ranger" is that too vague

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because holy 😭

drowsy plank
hybrid snow
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pov quiver of nihility

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perhaps the most niche accessory thats actually not terrible

tepid crown
drowsy plank
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idr

idle dagger
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I was gonna say to not count nature's gift seperately from mana flower but I feel like there's definitely people who use nature's gift and not mana flower to avoid using potions

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Idk I've never played mage in calamity

hybrid snow
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good dont

tepid crown
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yea lol

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its just 10% dmg (on specifically bows) and 1 extra update (on specifically arrows n stakes)

hybrid snow
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its just... so bad

tepid crown
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does cal even make stalker quiver an upgrade like wat they do to recon

idle dagger
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yes

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normal quiver's % boost is lower than vanilla

tepid crown
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oh ok

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does uhh

idle dagger
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the fire quiver is like 7% and then stalker is 10%

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while base is 5%

hybrid snow
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five???

idle dagger
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instead of 10 across the board, I believe

tepid crown
#

this extra update also stack with archery potion

idle dagger
hybrid snow
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why is this a thing

tepid crown
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oh no the velocity on archery isnt done with extra updates

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thankfully

idle dagger
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the same thing happens with sniper scope and the upgrade to that

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the putrid scent one has the normal 10%

hybrid snow
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because why is this even a thing

idle dagger
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Probably balance? Since asking to change it would be since they're 'too weak' or somesuch

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You don't have to beat a boss to instantly upgrade it or anything but you do have to fight a corruption/crimson mimic (and then ecto tinkerer if crimson)

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I think it's less of an issue for sniper scope since you'll be very well equipped to deal with mimics at that stage of the game

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Something similar happens for all the mana accessories
flower, cloak, etc

indigo yacht
#

i think that most of these exist bc they don't want to give ranger a lot more crit/damage than other classes

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which honestly why not

tepid crown
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@idle dagger YOUR LONG

idle dagger
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Ultimately if this gets passed onto the devs and then accepted I will then suggest an upgrade to Bloody Worm Scarf

tepid crown
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šŸŽƒ

idle dagger
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did I use the wrong your

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OH

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IT'S TOO LONG LOL

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thanks I genuinely didn't even notice

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wait this is too long? I must've not been around for another word lenght limit

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lemme check pins

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oh characters not words

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There we go

thorn dock
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Question actually is, is it rather balanced around its unconditional bonuses?

weary bane
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victide armor is being reworked next update

thorn dock
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Taking it down, ty

indigo yacht
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i dont like this suggestion

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I'm not sure it really has reasoning, either

misty lichen
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no it’s true

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there is no reason it should only work while also on the ground

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really it should also probably work while moving very slowly

indigo yacht
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the suggestion lacks reasoning written into it

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it wouldn't exactly be hard to add it but it doesn't really have any rn

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literally just "it doesn't make sense"

dense frost
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It needs reasioni

indigo yacht
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i just hate the "increased stealth regen when standing still"

misty lichen
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ok ill do it better

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Allow stealth's "generates faster while stationary" mechanic to work while airborne
Despite how useless on bosses it sounds, this mechanic is actually very nice to use when bosses are stationary or not firing projectiles at the player, or any other situation where the player can stand still generally. However it won't work while stationary and airborne at the same time, like when using a hovering wing or flight mount. This effectively kills the mechanic by Post-ML where most fights are fully spent in the air, and the only reason it doesn't work in the first place is due to jank in terraria code with how it calculates player velocity. Allowing the increased generation to work in these situations would make aggressive stealth play at these stages more interesting and accessible, alongside just making sense for what the "stealth" mechanic is supposed to be.

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@teal yarrow hey

teal yarrow
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sup

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wo

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ill take it down

misty lichen
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oh i thought youd just edit the original message to it but that works too

teal yarrow
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eh ok

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yk maybe a semi-easy fix for this would be to link the standstill mechanic to the in-game speedometer

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charges faster while speed is 0

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charges slower the faster you move

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very simple
i think

misty lichen
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i think its under the same rules as shiny stone rn

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as in it copies the vanilla thing for that

half imp
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If we used shiny stone logic for stealth it would work when hovering

teal yarrow
#

so u have a separate line of code just for stealth standstill

sleek sable
#

you may have already implied that and i just misread but idk

lucid marsh
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Hey, random idea I had when I saw the phrase "true melee bonus"
What if you had an accessory that boosted your damage or crit chance the closer you are to an enemy, or the closer you are to something that would damage you by touching it?

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This would be sort of like a "bullet grazing" bonus from some games

half imp
#

That is literally warbanner

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And also Rage

lucid marsh
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That's not very similar. Those give you a bonus that increases gradually, right? This would exclusively be if you almost touch a bullet

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Like deltarune's tension thing

gritty acorn
#

no

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there arent enough melee accessories in prehm

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although imo bloody worm scarf, it being viable until devourer of gods is crazy

misty lichen
#

bloody worm tooth is just like feral claws but slightly different

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and having an accessory dropped by a boss only work for one class is lame

dense locust
#

bloody worm tooth is really funny because if it wasnt melee specific it would just be kinda blatently overpowered

misty lichen
#

itd just be a shitty emblem

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scarf would be overpowered yeah

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but tooth not rlly

dense locust
frail fox
misty lichen
dense locust
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I mean cshell for any class that isnt melee (10 damage 2 crit 7 def + some regen)

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moon stone is 10 + 2 and then less defense

idle dagger
#

I had it as a note at the bottom of the suggestion originally but I deemed it unecessary to state what is probably the obvious, but I expect them to alter the numbers of bloody worm scarf if the change goes through and am not asking for it to be directly changed from 10% melee attack to 10% attack

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I honestly don’t know how much 10% dr is in calamity but 10% attack as a boost holds up way longer than I remember and 7 defense is rather respectable

drowsy plank
ripe owl
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Tin Ench is deal crit and get more crit

lucid marsh
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So also completely unrelated

errant wren
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deviantt heart or whatever

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idk what we're talking about

lucid marsh
# drowsy plank so tin enchant?

Let me try and explain it very clearly, because nothing else in the game works like this:
Each time you get close to an enemy but don't get hit, you gain some kind of stacking buff. If you actually get hit, you stop gaining the buff while you have I frames.
This buff might get used up as you attack, that's probably the best way to do it.

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This incentivises you to get close to attacks without actually hitting them. For example, weaving between bullets like a touhou player instead of running away to make dodging easier. This only works because the buff stacks for each thing you "graze" in this way and is kept for a bit after you gain it

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With other things in the game, you just get a simple bonus for being at close range, and it is gradual, so you're encouraged to just tank things

drowsy plank
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Graze attacks to gain up to x1.25 increased damage
Damage bonus decreases over time and is fully lost on hit
https://fargosmods.wiki.gg/wiki/Sparkling_Adoration

Fargo's Mods Wiki

Eternity Mode-Only Content: This information applies only to Eternity Mode.
Not to be confused with the Sparkling Love, a weapon with a similar name.
The Sparkling Adoration is a Pre-Hardmode Eternity Mode-exclusive accessory. It is always dropped by the Deviantt. It grants immunity to the Lovestruck...

lucid marsh
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I guess gameplay wise it's most similar to adrenaline, but even then it's not the same thing, just has a few similarities

drowsy plank
#

okay sorry wrong fargos item its sparkling adoration

lucid marsh
#

Oh. Ok probably that

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Yep. Something like that would be a much better way for various "when near enemies" effects to work

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In deltarune instead of a stacking buff you basically gain their equivalent of mana (which doesn't regenerate on its own)

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And use that for special attacks

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Oh lol the one in Fargos uses the deltarune sound effect

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Anyways yeah I think calamity should do this too. It might fit best on something like counter scarf

indigo yacht
#

why

lucid marsh
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It makes for good gameplay

misty lichen
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it’s the touhou sound effect

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both steal the touhou sound

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the gimmick also doesn’t work effectively in calamity which doesn’t have interesting projectile patterns

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dlc already proves this slightly

lucid marsh
#

Oh

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Well then, make calamity have interesting projectile patterns

hybrid snow
#

add another x to that

errant wren
#

XX20

elfin crescent
#

why they made blightet cleaver so dog shit

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how im supose to kill golem

humble scarab
elfin crescent
dire warren
indigo yacht
#

@jolly oracle is this an actual serious suggestion

jolly oracle
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Yes

indigo yacht
#

okay read the suggestions document in pins/channel description

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this breaks a couple rules

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mostly the specificity and the suggestion scope ones

stable kiln
#

its kinda peak actually

oblique otter
#

12504

indigo yacht
#

nobody is going to get that reference

stable kiln
#

um i got it

indigo yacht
#

you're done twenty two underscore that doesnt count

crude geode
#

Yeah I have no clue what this is referencing

indigo yacht
#

its nohitcord lore

drowsy plank
#

terraria minigame bosses real lmao

echo leaf
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you need to say 12504

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it references an old calamity bug where exo box could hit a speed of 12504 mph

crude geode
#

Ty nohitcord

fleet grotto
#

this honestly feels like a nothingburger suggestion

tepid crown
#

what?

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they should be named

drowsy plank
#

what

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@lapis canyon why

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oh wait what

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they're labelled as providence??

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that does not sound right

lapis canyon
#

yes

tepid crown
#

theyre asking for provis guardian summons to be renamed when they should already be

lapis canyon
#

they are

drowsy plank
#

i dont think that's true

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im pretty sure the guardians have their own names and hp bars which are properly labelled

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this sounds like some kind of bug or something

keen zodiac
#

def a bug

drowsy plank
lapis canyon
drowsy plank
#

oh they're still labelled with their appropriate titles

fleet grotto
#

providence healer

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(it heals providence)

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The only one that doesn't make sense is providence offense imo

drowsy plank
#

i mean tbf the only one that doesnt make sense is "providence offense"

fleet grotto
#

other two are fine

lapis canyon
#

ill prob edit the suggestion later. could word it better but its 3am now here

echo leaf
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The internal name for the Guardian Commander is ā€˜OffenseGuardian` iirc

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It confused me when I first saw it

indigo yacht
#

i don't mind this suggestion

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don't really care but it would be neat for guardians to be less of a "fuck you i have stat boosts too" phase and more interesting

crude geode
#

Guardians is certainly a phase that exists

indigo yacht
#

tbh

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I'd rather just ask for a guardians rework because I'd be surprised if the names weren't changed alongside their role in the fight

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I'm not sure what it would be reworked to

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maybe something similar to scal brothers or the more popular suggestion of just enabling her to do more attacks

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personally i wouldnt mind moving the biome attack differences to the guardians, healer already does crystal rain and commander does the big laser

gilded citrus
#

Aint the biome stuff exploding eventually

indigo yacht
#

everything ever is exploding eventually i fear

gilded citrus
#

well yeah like everything of calamity is outdated

errant wren
#

i uh

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hm

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you see i just don't see anything wrong with the sugg

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but i also just feel like something's off about it

keen zodiac
#

it's treading the line of SIS

errant wren
#

but at the same time it's not really doing that either

fleet grotto
#

honestly

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i think this is a better role for an alcohol

errant wren
#

maybe it's the reasoning...

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actually yeah

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would stop alcohol from being stat sticks

keen zodiac
errant wren
#

anyways

keen zodiac
#

ping doze in cst for more info

errant wren
#

i don't think something that buffs a random niche would be too bad

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-# (why are there multiple laser pointers on me)

fleet grotto
#

don't worry

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old fashioned and screwdriver already exist

gilded citrus
#

is removing an item allowed by the rules doc iforgor if so

fleet grotto
#

i believe so

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it's about bringing back removed items that's not

misty lichen
#

i’ve gotten things removed from suggestions in the past so

frail fox
#

Yeah it’s happened

olive saddle
#

are there any other plain and generic phm rogue damage accessories

ashen warren
#

dogtooth now upgrades into vamp talisman pretty sure

indigo yacht
#

šŸ„€

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i was hoping it could die

#

can it be replaced 🄺

echo leaf
#

dogtooth is pretty cool

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makes some attacks deal 1 more damage than they would otherwise

fleet grotto
#

Wulfrum Battery

whole tundra
echo leaf
#

Deefinitely

#

I'm not really a fan of the suggestion but I think it's possible nonetheless

misty lichen
#

like whats it gonna inherit, one debuff?

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doesn’t change much of the reasoning

misty lichen
#

sheath is really boring

#

but you take these steps one by one

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bloodstained and filthy glove too

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all of these items are just stats in uninteresting ways (raiders tali is stats in an interesting way)

indigo yacht
drowsy plank
#

i thought a lot of the bad rogue accessories were become all class anyway

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and i thought vamp talis was one of those

misty lichen
#

i was told it’s rogue

frail fox
#

It’s still rogue yeah, Shade mentioned it maybe becoming non-class a few months ago but it’s just rogue still

#

Sand Cloak and Feather Crown will stop being rogue next update though

idle dagger
#

Vampiric talisman feels like rogue’s version of deadshot brooch, fire gauntlet, sigil of calamitas, etc

#

Despite that it’s not used in nanotech

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I made a suggestion about that a few months back

idle dagger
crude geode
#

Spam projectiles

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Same thing it’s always done

idle dagger
#

Huh, fair enough

idle dagger
#

Oh what

indigo yacht
#

take from rogue,

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give to mage (or ranger I suppose)!

lucid marsh
#

Awesome

#

Rogue sucks ass and should never have existed

#

It's basically fabsol's nepo baby, right?

novel belfry
#

No that's Sprime

lucid marsh
#

How many hours of dev time spent fleshing out a replacement for a class that relogic removed for good reason?

indigo yacht
#

i think there's a minor difference between half a class with no interesting mechanics and a full class with a unique gimmick that separates it from every other class

lucid marsh
#

The difference is an extra year of work

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Calamity shouldn't be "the rogue class mod"

#

But it is

novel belfry
#

Well, it's not that.

lucid marsh
#

Could have fooled me with how much work went in to it

indigo yacht
#

and this is a bad thing why

novel belfry
#

Why is it a bad thing to create an entire new class?

#

You also have to factor in that Rogue was a thing BEFORE throwing got nuked from terraria

#

It IS TRUE that Rogue has an awful lot of pointless accessories

#

However, it's likely that the devs will prune them significantly. i mean, one of them was just discussing that.

lucid marsh
#

Which is why I meant that it shouldn't have been added in the first place. Everything that rogue has would be better implemented on other classes to make them more interesting

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It's just ranger but with another fancy meter

novel belfry
#

a fancy meter for a fun mechanic

lucid marsh
#

Now that it exists the best option is to give those mechanics all to the other classes

#

Including the meter thing

novel belfry
#

i think it's a neat class-defining mechanic, altho it def needs to be updated to be available at all times without armor

lucid marsh
#

But hey, I might just be insane

indigo yacht
#

maybe i really do need tone tags

novel belfry
#

he seems serious

indigo yacht
#

huh

#

okay then

#

maybe i dont need tone tags after all

idle dagger
#

I feel like calamity is more well known for the bosses and music than rogue

#

But I can't really say since I'm not outside perspective

novel belfry
#

I sincerely doubt that Rogue is what Calamity is known for

#

Calamity is known for bosses and music, indeed

indigo yacht
#

rogue is definitely significant but yeah it's much more well known for the music and like dog and maybe yharon

novel belfry
#

not "Hey we brought back a dead class and reworked it"

idle dagger
#

I guess it's moreso that the bosses and music are something you are guaranteed to interact with while playing it while rogue is another class option

novel belfry
#

which btw

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OTHER MODS

#

HAVE DONE THIS TOO

#

Thorium does this

indigo yacht
#

thorium isnt real sorry

novel belfry
indigo yacht
#

you hallucinated it all

novel belfry
#

i dont even need to say it

indigo yacht
#

this mushroom is very odd

novel belfry
#

mayhap

#

it could be housing unusual radioactive elements...

#

like...

#

like...

indigo yacht
#

oddness

errant wren
#

the element

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of surprise

grim tusk
#

@misty lichen this sugg is an insta lock

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1- I should really give a hint to use spam strikes while the armor crunch is up since the duration of it is short as fuck (intentionally so stealth goesnt benefit from crumbling)
2- Combines with Raider’s Talisman into Vampiric Talisman next patch

misty lichen
#

1 is not much of a reasoning at all

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2 already got mentioned but i still don’t see how that makes it invalid

lavish condor
#

the sugg isn't invalid but it would get a lock because removing dogtooth would conflict with current dev plans (combining with raider's)

grim tusk
#

not invalid suggestion

#

^

misty lichen
#

sorry mispoke

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don’t see how that makes it a lock if the only thing that happens is the upgrade inflicts a debuff

#

that can just as easily go

grim tusk
#

Raider’s got buffed a lot next patch

New Vamp Talisman is like this:
Critical Strikes Heal you
Rotten Dogtooth’s Crumbling is upgraded into Armor Crunch + Hemorrage
Raider’s boost has synergy with both Rotten Dogtooth and Talisman’s life steal

idle dagger
#

Shade is vampiric ever plausibly going into nanotech or is that like extra unlikely now that it has additional effects

grim tusk
#

we are still discussing

idle dagger
#

Good to know

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Thanks

grim tusk
#

but Vamp talisman being absorbed is likely

frail fox
#

Isn't moonstone dying like

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Soon

grim tusk
#

ā„¢ļø

echo leaf
#

good

errant wren
#

clearly vamp talisman should add 1 flat damage against vampires

grim tusk
#

Nanotech’s rework will depend on other accessories being reworked

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but next patch as it is rn Nano is losing Raider’s temporarily

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Plagued fueled pack (and thus blunder booster) will get a glow up; likely absorbed into Nanotech

frail fox
idle dagger
#

Makes sense
When in the timeline is the 'rogue update'? Or can I find that in spoiler talk somwhere

idle dagger
#

OH extra dope

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I liked using those when I tried out rogue but it was hard to justify over other things

grim tusk
#

blunder atm is mostly used cuz of the dmg boost, i can clearly see why

#

plagued fueled is not used at all

errant wren
#

might finally do a rogue run when that happens

idle dagger
#

I enjoyed my time as rogue

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I've tried out melee ranged and rogue in calamity

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I'm not gonna do summoner until SSO since it's going to be majorly changed anyway

grim tusk
#

if 1.4.5 takes too long we’ll see if rogue is done first

olive saddle
#

your taking too long...

idle dagger
#

Oh yeah I forgot SSO is being split into parts now
Where can I find info about what's in each part, if there is any? Somewhere pinned in spoiler chat?

grim tusk
#

this wont do

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or well this partially can help

#

but boosters will not work like that

#

they give too little control atm

ashen warren
#

it was just a reskin of the current dash

#

but it works as a baseline

grave zincBOT
#

@thorn dock - Your suggestion has received an updated status!

[Terragon Spawn Rate Decrease Removal]

It has been voted upon, and the devs decided it would be a good idea to implement it. This doesn't guarantee implementation, as plans may change/alternate plans may be made, but it does highly improve chances!
You can check out your suggestion again here: #suggestions-voting message

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@smoky jewel - Your suggestion has received an updated status!

[Add a way to prevent the Cultists from spawning at the Dungeon]

It has been voted upon, and the devs decided it would be a good idea to implement it. This doesn't guarantee implementation, as plans may change/alternate plans may be made, but it does highly improve chances!
You can check out your suggestion again here: #suggestions-voting message

misty lichen
#

isn’t this a lock anyways

hybrid snow
#

is it? i genuinely dont know i tried searching for someone talking about it but didnt find anything

gilded citrus
#

Dog is getting quite a bunch if touchups by doze to make the fight tolerable
Idk if sounds was one of them tho

indigo yacht
#

a sound cue wouldn't even be helpful

hybrid snow
#

now how does that make sense

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😭

indigo yacht
#

"with this sound i now know that the boss has shot a fireball during the phase where it constantly shoots fireballs"

hybrid snow
#

its just a timing thing

#

like with lasers you have a visual and a sound to know when the lasers are coming

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with fireballs you have no sound and barely any visual

#

so youre just guessing as to when the fireball is actually going to ram into you and kill you

indigo yacht
#

just circle

gilded citrus
#

I do agree sound would be nice to have

hybrid snow
indigo yacht
#

it's not going to make the fight any better

#

it will do nothing except potentially make it more annoying bc now you have a sound playing every 3 seconds

gilded citrus
#

It would be better to have then not

hybrid snow
#

i mean it wouldnt make it good but it would make it better 😭

hybrid snow
#

as if lasers dont already do that

indigo yacht
#

lasers dont happen every 3 seconds

gilded citrus
hybrid snow
#

literally

indigo yacht
#

i also hate both of those what's ur point

hybrid snow
indigo yacht
#

the boss already having a problem doesn't excuse adding another of the same fiber

hybrid snow
#

tbh i feel like a sound design problem is distinctly less of a problem than genuinely bad gameplay

gilded citrus
hybrid snow
#

like you can have not annoying sounds

indigo yacht
hybrid snow
#

it doesnt have to be metal pipe clanging.mp3

hybrid snow
#

still would be better to have than not

#

its definitely not a big change that would dramatically change the tune of the fight

#

its just a little annoying that its not already a thing

indigo yacht
#

(because the fireballs are stupid

hybrid snow
#

this is true

#

maybe just remove fireballs

gilded citrus
stable kiln
#

removing dog tooth makes sense but i will forever miss the old dog farm

keen zodiac
#

just remove rotdogs entirely atp

#

they suck

misty lichen
#

yeah

stable kiln
#

but the dog farm

fleet grotto
#

Am I going crazy or does he literally do?

hybrid snow
#

he does not unfortunately

#

if he does its like inaudible

astral sage
#

just replace fireballs with more lasers
problem solved

hybrid snow
#

just remove dog

indigo yacht
#

TRUE

fleet grotto
#

shit I need to get my dog challenges done before that happens

tepid crown
#

IS THAT LIKE

#

FLAMELASHES SOUND

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😭

misty lichen
#

terraria woosh sound

tepid crown
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OH MY GOD IT IS

indigo yacht
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i was going to ask whether or not dog actually already did have a sound cue but i havent fought that boss in like i think a full year

misty lichen
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it’s probably just not audible when he’s offscreen so

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shoutout to Item20

tepid crown
fleet grotto
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You just need to turn of all music.

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:)

tepid crown
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and also

tepid crown
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not use any item

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at all

fleet grotto
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true!

hybrid snow
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Might have to delete the sugg lol

fleet grotto
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Probably not.

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It's incredibly quiet regardless.

hybrid snow
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The fact that I've never heard it before right now is probably not a great sign

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Might just change it to be like "make it louder" instead

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Like the lasers are deafening compared to it and music just completely drowns it out

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And God forbid you're like using a weapon and doing damage

keen ore
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magic storage has released an update that simplified adding custom storage unit tiers, so will suggesting adding those in Calamity be a good idea?

echo leaf
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Custom storage unit tiers as in, like... higher tier chests with greater capacity, for example?

tepid crown
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the boxes u need to place

echo leaf
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still not really sure what it is about

errant wren
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i mean

echo leaf
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regardless, double check the rules and if you don't think it breaks any, suggest it anyways. Worst case scenario it just gets no traction

keen ore
errant wren
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beyond the base magic storage tiers

echo leaf
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Ah, I understand that

errant wren
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i just don't think it's really necessary for cal to add anything above

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i do remember that i had something that made it so you could craft the terra tier with cosmolite bars

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not sure what mod did that though

keen ore
errant wren
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yeah honestly

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getting like 4 blue chlorophyte is pretty good

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beyond that starts being overkill

keen ore
echo leaf
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i have no earthly fucking idea what the hell you are storing

keen ore
echo leaf
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I have a quarter million blocks of dirt and over a hundred thousand blocks of stone

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I have almost four stacks of dungeon bricks and plenty of miscellanea, like statues and banners and...

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one block of disenchanted aerilate

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crabulon plushie... two announcement boxes... three hundred money troughs... ninety five titanium crates...

keen ore
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I'm actually surprised you don't know about MS mod, it's among the most popular mods for terraria

echo leaf
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i do have magic storage

keen ore
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kek

echo leaf
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my entire storage unit is 1,014 once I cleaned up those money troughs

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actually how many stacks of dirt do i have

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just 29?

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does the dirtiest block count

drowsy plank
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if you want

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anyway yeah i cant see any reason calamity would do this

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if magic storage wants to make custom tiers for calamity mats, sure, but like

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once you have like 20 terra storage units wtf are you gonna need more for

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maybe if one of those fuck off big modpacks actually worked it could be useful but

errant wren
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you'd have to be going out of your way to make the storage get that full

indigo yacht
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maybe im weird but i feel like you deserve to be punished if you're holding on to so many thousands of items that even the best magic storage storage tiers arent enough for you

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like holy fuck

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there's a trash slot for a reason

echo leaf
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I right now think I have too much shitty junk around

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like a Deus mask and a.. diamond ring for some reason. some dyes... the entire butcher set???

indigo yacht
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šŸ”„

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i like hanging on to cute vanity tbf

indigo yacht
gritty plaza
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But hoarding is funny

indigo yacht
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how are you hoarding over 10000 items

echo leaf
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having like, 2,000? okay a little excessive but whatever

tepid crown
errant wren
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i have autotrash on for like

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pointless items

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so i guess i never have that problem

echo leaf
indigo yacht
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honestly if there was one qol mod (besides the two i already use) that i would consider using it would be autotrash

indigo yacht
errant wren
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i don't need a second boss mask

echo leaf
indigo yacht
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boss checklist and recipe browser

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:ombg

echo leaf
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boss checklist spotted

indigo yacht
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yeah whatever i swapped it to lite in like half of my modlists

tepid crown
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boss checklist lite