#suggestions-discussion

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glass arch
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sometimes you need to encourage players to take a break from boss rushing and/or doing nothing but grinding bosses

dense ferry
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Yeah, and we shouldn't do that because the player got cockblocked by the time

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If a player wants to fight the Boss, they should be allowed to do that

errant wren
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i mean this in a joking manner: making the player stop grinding bosses should not result in them having to grind fishing to fight the boss again

glass arch
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if they want it to always be one time or be able to skip time to when they can fight them why does calamity have to explicitly enable that in the mod

glass arch
dense ferry
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Because we make Mech Bosses far harder than in Vanilla

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In Vanilla it's fine because you'll take one or two attempts to beat Mech Bosses, maybe 3 to 5 if you're really struggling

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In Cal, that number can reach a few dozens very easily

errant wren
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source: me

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yeah i suck at death mode

dense ferry
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Source: Also me

idle dagger
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Is it possible for you guys to make cosmilight timestop but add either a post-ML or even post game item that does what current cosmilight does?
Just for convenience

indigo yacht
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don't tell me he was one of those people who just HATES actually playing the game and interacting with anything besides bosses

dense ferry
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Yes I would like to have currently Cosmolight later into the game, albeit a bit nerfed

indigo yacht
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surely not, his boss design was atrocious

errant wren
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man i was slow

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snail react me

dense ferry
glass arch
dense ferry
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Jacob I don't understand what you're arguing here anymore Imma be real

errant wren
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circular reasoning, i think

idle dagger
dense ferry
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By this point it feels like you're disagreeing with this for the sake of it

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Yeah

idle dagger
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I think perf/hive mind drop souls in Hardmode but I actually don’t remember

dense ferry
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Well, I wanted it to be likes specifically

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5 Souls of each per use

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Maybe 3

idle dagger
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Maybe it’s just ichor/cursed flames

glass arch
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souls are from altars

idle dagger
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Does any boss drop souls of night

glass arch
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not that im aware of

errant wren
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i think maybe if they die in underground evil clueless

indigo yacht
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genius

idle dagger
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Lmao

errant wren
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hey if we moved evil2 to hard- gets shot

idle dagger
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Either way I’m sure it’s not hard to sit in an underground crimson/corruption with a Zerg in post moondlord

errant wren
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i think there's a lot of fundamental flaws in the roots of calamity, but the mod is definitely going to move away from them somehow

glass arch
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anyways without being destructive to vanilla could it not be
-summoning the mechs is no longer locked to nighttime
-in rev+ specifically mechs dont have a time enrage
hell if them not being locked to nighttime summoning is that big of an issue could that change not be only on rev+

grim tusk
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i should upgrade the ❗ gun to a machinegun

errant wren
oblique birch
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oh no the another Galaxia suggestion for AotC again

coral carbon
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daring today arent we

oblique birch
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surely this will get in

indigo yacht
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can we KILLLLLLLL ark of the cosmos

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just for fun :3

grim tusk
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AotC rework has caused so much pain that players even wanted old AotC back (and they are basically getting it in SSO part 1 in another weapon)

glass arch
# errant wren across difficulties, that is

the argument for not changing it is mod compatibility, hence i asked if it could be done on the calamity modes only where any mod conflicts relating would probably already happen

grim tusk
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lets not

errant wren
regal canyon
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Is Ark of the Cosmos just a weapon that has gone through too many reworks

grim tusk
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no

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old AotC was an extremely simple and loved weapon

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then it became… kind of the opposite

oblique birch
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AotC doesn't need a 50/50 split between AotE and Galaxia

errant wren
oblique birch
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it is losing the dash from Galaxia too in the next update

regal canyon
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Isn't the dash from Ark of the Elements?

oblique birch
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no

novel belfry
oblique birch
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it's from Polaris and Andromeda

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AotE doesn't have dash

errant wren
novel belfry
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That can't be right.

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I SWORE it was probably one of the best things ever done

errant wren
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i mean

novel belfry
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I mean, I personally really liked it.

errant wren
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it's cool

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it's just

novel belfry
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I assumed it was well liked because I liked it.

errant wren
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i have literally never used it after that

dense ferry
novel belfry
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I used it a ton

grim tusk
errant wren
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i forget it exists, honestly

dense ferry
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Also yeah AotC was mildly controversial but like, still an upgrade for sure

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People are getting old AotC again so

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Everyone wins

oblique birch
dense ferry
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What the fuck

regal canyon
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Oh reworks are already planned

oblique birch
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just final Big Rip like you'd want for your favorite AotC changes

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1 final attack to end the combo

errant wren
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i think it was the mechanics that made it less appealing for me to use, actually

oblique birch
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no dashing

dense ferry
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Honestly I had a really funny idea on how to put Attunements on AotC but that'd be like

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Lol

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Lmao

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There's no need to do that

errant wren
novel belfry
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There's no reason for Biome Blade/Galaxia to be tied to AoTE through the AoTC anymore. Beforehand, Biome Blade could be easily fitted into AoTC on the simple fact that BOTH were projectile swords, and that the previous biome-changing ability of the Biome Blade could be applied to the AoTC as well.

errant wren
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put them on the same key

oblique birch
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the fuck

frail fox
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If only you could bind 2 things to the same key…

oblique birch
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JJK pilled suggestion this is not it

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😢 👎 you can already do this

dense ferry
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It's funny to me how old AotC was also complex just like

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In all the wrong ways

errant wren
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thematically it makes sense for the two to converge

frail fox
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Inflicts random debuff in x biome!

novel belfry
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But because now they're functionally extremely different weapons, with very different gimmicks that would struggle to be fused together, it means that it was a lot easier to just have one weapon line's gimmick, parry-to-boost, override the other

oblique birch
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it's just not 50/50 split between Galaxia and AotE

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AotE has more

errant wren
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i am aware of this

verbal basin
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They should add a keybind that activates both rage and adrenaline mode, and also add a unique sound effect when you activate them at the same time and the color changes also to like purple or something. I just thought it would be cool cause I always wait for my adrenaline to charge up before using my rage mode and then use them both for even more extra damage. I call it “Black Flash” like from jujutsu kaisen.

What do yall think

scarlet musk
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its just better

dense ferry
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Also AotC is a better weapon than Galaxia

errant wren
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oh and uh

verbal basin
oblique birch
verbal basin
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Thats what I meant

errant wren
oblique birch
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suggestion is for fixing problems, not creating new mechanics

verbal basin
regal canyon
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I do think both should converge more but if so many people are asking for reworks and the devs are already planning some then I see no reason to keep up my suggestion

verbal basin
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Ohh

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Damn fuck my idea then

oblique birch
errant wren
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you.. nevermind i'm not even going to try explaining

dense ferry
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I mean a suggestion to make activating both of them at once feel more punchy isn't a problem tbh

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I think that'd be fine

errant wren
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rebecca-approved idea

verbal basin
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Yes please

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Thank you

novel belfry
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I think Galaxia should just not be tied to AotC anymore and go off in its own path. It's mechanically too distinct to fit in without losing its specific functionality

umbral gazelle
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does setting the same keybind for both to the same button work

oblique birch
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a certain vanity in the next update will be able to do this too

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you might wanna check it out

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when it drops

novel belfry
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Although... what to?

umbral gazelle
dense ferry
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Galaxia already feels like a final upgrade anyways

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The only problem is that "Ark of the Cosmos" would make no fucking sense

verbal basin
dense ferry
errant wren
glass arch
verbal basin
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Yo..

oblique birch
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just unbind the Adrenaline ultimatesmug

glass arch
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true yeah that is an option too

oblique birch
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intentionally getting hit

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that sounds about right

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but ye 2 keybinds are the best options if you ever wanna utillize that

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my playstyle is usually exhaust the Adrenaline as fast as possible because I'll lose it in 3 seconds anyways

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being super aggressive is fun

errant wren
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bind them to stuff you can hit at the same time if you really want to activate both simultaneously

glass arch
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yeah

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like v and c or m4 and m5 if you have those

dense ferry
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Guys

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We can

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We can make Galaxia usable on Yharon

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😨

oblique birch
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for a much wider audience ultimatesmug

frail fox
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Well I mean you could

oblique birch
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you mean

frail fox
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Even though it’s post-sentinels now

scarlet musk
dense ferry
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Oh right

dense ferry
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Also, no

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Ark is not being renamed

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It's dope as fuck

frail fox
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Ark of Calamity

drowsy plank
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this should be flagged right

scarlet musk
drowsy plank
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it's just "it would be cool" plus reference

errant wren
scarlet musk
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new suggestion: make adamantite particle accelerator a magic gun :)ↄ

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/j

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fuck i want more magic guns

glass arch
errant wren
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also that new vanity thingy?

dense ferry
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Yeah I think sometimes cool factor can be used as an argument because like

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Yes, feedback like that to the player is important

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Do cool thing = Game does cool thing

oblique birch
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ye visual aspect alone it's fine

errant wren
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that's how "it would be cool" should be used

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not like most suggestions do

dense ferry
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Usually people use it as "do this it'd be cool" when it should be used more like

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"X thing should be made cooler because it's supposed to be impactful"

errant wren
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is that in the doc, actually?

drowsy plank
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having some kind of effect when both are active would be cool but that has nothing to do with adding a button for both since you can just do that with keybinds already

errant wren
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if it isn't that might be good clarification on the don't

scarlet musk
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audiovisual

oblique birch
indigo yacht
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okay i assume we've already talked about the exclaimed suggestion but at the risk of being snailed i think it would be quite interesting to have a special rage-adrenaline interaction, just like visually/audibly

scarlet musk
errant wren
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yeah we

indigo yacht
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no gameplay change just looking cool

errant wren
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i think we just said that

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to an extent

indigo yacht
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i did not read there were like 200 messages

oblique birch
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slowly getting there

indigo yacht
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the wings?

oblique birch
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ye it's one of Xyk's vanities

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there're 2 versions I think

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so 2? vanities

indigo yacht
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6 Million stars incoming

oblique birch
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incredible suggestion

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this is how it should be

indigo yacht
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"managing to gain full rage" i mean, it's not really hard,

glass arch
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small exaggeration for further effect of the suggestion

errant wren
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managing to have both filled at the same time can be a bit tricky so yeah

glass arch
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anyways this is how you can twist "it would be cool" into valid reasoning for a suggestion

errant wren
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that said...

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wouldn't it be so dumb

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if the visual effect of both meters being used was them turning into another color that you could choose with a config

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i'll see myself out

indigo yacht
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okay now i want to make a suggestion for letting the player customize the color of rage and adrenaline effects

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ugh i don't think it's possible to reason that one though

errant wren
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i plant ideas into people's minds

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whether or not those are good ideas is up to interpretation

hybrid snow
indigo yacht
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ive always wanted purple adrenaline

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it just hadnt come up before

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oh wait i have an actually good (?) idea

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using dye on stress pills changes adrenaline color to that of the dye

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I'm pretty sure they lack a visible player sprite anyways

grim tusk
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aint this planned? (remaining malice AI being obliterated)

hybrid snow
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im just going off what cit said here tbh

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if it is planned thats absolutely fantastic though

grim tusk
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if it isnt planned atm I’ll see what i can do about it (chuck it on my to do list)

hybrid snow
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thanks goat appreciate you

hollow shell
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Is it accurate to call the AI's "Malice" still
Or just
the Boss Rush AIs

gilded citrus
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Id consider them synonyms at this point

hollow shell
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(my opinion)
I feel like having the AIs be exactly the same as their normal counterparts during Boss Rush is a bit, lame
because like
bosses are designed around the movement capabilities of their tiers

Eye of Cthulhu is not going to challenge you when you have endgame wings and a world arena, even if it instakilled you on contact

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I understand why they have the megabuffed AIs

dense ferry
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I know how to solve that

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So we make every Boss use Master Death AI-

prisma sedge
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She says, over the screams of Master Death AIs as they roast over the fire

hybrid snow
dense ferry
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Jokes aside BR needs a very thorough makeover one day

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There's not much to be said

prisma sedge
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But yeah, agreed

hybrid snow
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Yeah I agree I just think this is a solid start to making it not terrible, as I said last night too

hybrid snow
dense ferry
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Tbf removing the Malice AIs wouldn't solve the problem with BR anyways, infact I'd argue it'd make BR worse because it'd become extremelly boring

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Worry not, because the Master Death changes will be made Not Shit in due time

hybrid snow
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👍 I have faith

dense ferry
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I'm very hopeful of what we can accomplish overall now with Bosses because we have not only the entire team on the board, but also, quite frankly, better minds working at it

hybrid snow
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yeah im looking forward to seeing what happens for sure

misty lichen
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boss rush ais have always existed

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malice ai was just slapped on top of it when malice was added

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eye of cthulhu would still be fast with the malice ai removed

hybrid snow
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yeah so i really dont think it'd be any more boring or lame than it currently is, if anything itd just feel more fun and fair. the AI was already tweaked to match progression, now its just been overdone to the point you just get completely blindsided by a lot of the bosses

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brimmy and calclone alone are literally impossible to fight fairly because of the massive speed increase, and that's not to even speak for all the worm bosses

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and tier 5 is just something else

glass arch
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imma be real with you rn worm bosses are the easiest part

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it doesnt matter what class you're playing if you're struggling a bit too much you have dragon rage

hybrid snow
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although really theyre a minor problem

north oracle
oblique birch
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Truest

scarlet musk
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can we just remove the plague missile and mine enemies PBG spawns

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they're stupid difficult to see and add nothing to the fight

scarlet musk
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look i like pbg but all the bullshit it spawns makes the fight so much less fun

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theres just an invisible cloud of fuck-off that floats around in the arena, and you're too busy focusing on dodging the actual boss to see it

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and then you casually take 200 fucking damage

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and then again

umbral gazelle
oblique birch
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Sea King won't have shop anymore

thorn dock
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Oh?

oblique birch
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Ye the shop is dying

thorn dock
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Just grinded 3 hours for the set and after that I ve had a clinch with my GF

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Maybe it could be added with a % drop chance to desert scourges bag?

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Atleast it would fit its theme/ location

weary bane
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sounds a bit arbitrary

thorn dock
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Indeed

weary bane
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arbitrary means without reason

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i'm saying that it makes no sense

thorn dock
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I m aware of

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Reasoning was to save lots of time on a set that has a very marginal drop chance

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A small link could be that it fits the desert scourges style

weary bane
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it really doesnt

thorn dock
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Opinion

weary bane
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desert scourge is a pre-hm boss and has its own set of drops

thorn dock
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But I m fine with that

weary bane
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lamia stuff is completely unrelated

thorn dock
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Both spawn from the underground desert

weary bane
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and even then desert scourge is being heavily altered next update and it'll be even farther removed since it wont even be a worm thing anymore

thorn dock
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Desert scourge most likely eats them on the way too the top

weary bane
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they arent even from the same stage of the game

thorn dock
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Okay understood

vocal moth
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I like 2 yharon pets

tepid crown
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@hollow verge u should prob have a sentence clarifying that they can only be found naturally since it sounds wonky without that context

hollow verge
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is there a single person who is unaware that obsidian furniture is only natural

tepid crown
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most people probably

hollow verge
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👍

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though thats crazy

tepid crown
hollow verge
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doesnt make it not crazy

indigo yacht
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I've never used it in my life

crude geode
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Why does cal need this and not any other mod

indigo yacht
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i mean, cal does encourage building to an extent

crude geode
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You could say that about every content mod

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“It has blocks and new furniture in it so it encourages building, therefore add this qol for the base game”

indigo yacht
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...

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calamity adds armor sets specifically to facilitate building

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and iirc it has one or two accessories that do something similar

crude geode
indigo yacht
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and marnite architect

crude geode
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Ah yeah

indigo yacht
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also things like zen potion which are pretty obviously geared towards activities like building where you don't want to be interrupted

crude geode
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Again, though, why does cal need to fix this vanilla problem instead of a different mod. I know we have qol recipes, but it’s not like it makes dungeon paintings more accessible or anything like that. Mostly for progression purposes, and even those are sometimes divisive

drowsy plank
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why not

crude geode
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Opens the door for 500 more suggestions like this about dungeon paintings, random statues, and anything else in the game people find annoying

drowsy plank
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ok

crude geode
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Plus the reasoning is literally “it’d be nice”

drowsy plank
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@hollow verge why dont you just change it to say that it should be consistent with literally every other furniture set in the game

tepid crown
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the floodgate has already been opened

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its just whether or not people are willing to write suggestions for it

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or find every instance of it

tawny shell
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make pbg a harder boss... i need him to suffer longer...

drowsy plank
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???

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also pbg is a queen bee so it would be her

tawny shell
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i need to make the other 89k kills harder...

drowsy plank
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anyway no

tawny shell
gritty plaza
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just turn up the health

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it's in configs

drowsy plank
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true

tawny shell
fleet grotto
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The ease of one does not beat the difficulty of a thousand others

crude geode
gritty plaza
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literally in calamity mod main config

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there's a boss health slider

indigo yacht
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Add config damage multiplier

we already have a health one

gritty plaza
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can go up to 10x health iirc

drowsy plank
# tawny shell how

go into your settings, go to mod configs, and turn up the boss health slider in the calamity mod config

gritty plaza
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🔥

tawny shell
tepid crown
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one must not be afraid who has defeated every boss once

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but to be afraid who has defeated one boss a thousand times

fleet grotto
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what

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this feels barely comprehensible

drowsy plank
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i think pbg will be fine considering it is a video game character and therefore not real

hollow verge
drowsy plank
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and yet

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it works

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every time baby 😎

hollow verge
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wait are people genuinely getting mad at my suggestion. and saying it's bad.

drowsy plank
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appearntly

hollow verge
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sorry im rereading, i have this channel muted

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😭

tawny shell
gritty plaza
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i see nothing wrong with it

hollow verge
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ITS JUST TABLES BRO

gritty plaza
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limited resources is dumb

drowsy plank
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you know what's funny is there's a dungeon furniture crafting mod but no obsidian furniture crafting mod

gritty plaza
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you shouldn't have a cap on how many times you can use something

drowsy plank
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very annoying

gritty plaza
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even if the cap is high it's still annoying

drowsy plank
fleet grotto
drowsy plank
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there's craftable obsidian furniture

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like the sink and toilet

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but you just

crude geode
drowsy plank
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can't do the rest

hollow verge
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red moment

gritty plaza
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😭

idle dagger
gritty plaza
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thank you red

idle dagger
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What

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That’s so bizarre

tawny shell
fleet grotto
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thanks 🔴 #

gritty plaza
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@redigit-bluesky

drowsy plank
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i fucking LOVE vanilla terraria LOOK at this SHIT

tepid crown
idle dagger
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What happened

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Do the sink and toilet not naturally spawn

crude geode
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I’m waiting for the inevitable dungeon paintings sugg atp

echo leaf
crude geode
idle dagger
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Is any painting even craftable

crude geode
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No

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But it would give painter a use case

indigo yacht
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we should remove terraria from the game

drowsy plank
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make the dungeon paintings drop from dungeon crates

tepid crown
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it asks for all of em

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which would include the paintings

crude geode
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ig

coral carbon
indigo yacht
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Add the Eye of Sauron to Calamity

meow

royal tapir
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Guy named the meower

indigo yacht
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oh now who could that be

small bramble
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big agree with the schematic suggestion - I've always thought this
you're almost always going to find planetoid first unless you just never use rope or gravitation potions

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it's def the closest in proximity and ease of access to your spawn compared to the other 4

indigo yacht
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i kind of want to make a suggestion where spark particles fall from below the planetoid

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so that new players will be encouraged to climb up and find the source

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because sometimes i miss the planetoid lab completely even with two gravitation potions, and if I didn't know it was there i might not have found it at all

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idk how to word it in a way that wouldn't sound too specific though

small bramble
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I think that would be pretty cool - encourage players to explore what's above them

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If nothing else maybe a guide line that's like "I heard there's something big in the center of the sky... what could it be?"

fleet grotto
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nobody reads the guide :C

errant wren
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planetoid and sunken sea labs were always kind of weird in terms of order

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not that it stops anyone from just going to either one in any order regardless

tepid crown
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clearly we make the turrets shoot through walls

indigo yacht
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like

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half of it is pretty good

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the other half is super vague and sucks

misty lichen
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i feel like there’s no way to make the turrets threatening but not unfair without changing the generation of the labs entirely

fleet grotto
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even if it gave you the best advice i know that nobody would use it still, besides people who are actually smart

indigo yacht
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imagine a new player trying to find out the brain of cthulhu exists by the guide saying "the hearts in the crimson are evil"

indigo yacht
errant wren
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so they don't randomly hit you as you're trying to get in

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that's an idea, at least

fleet grotto
fleet grotto
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idk

tepid crown
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idk

fleet grotto
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New ftw change

tepid crown
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and also make them ignore player placed tiles

errant wren
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lab revamps to make them actually cool to go through

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and then to prevent cheese (breaking in from the side), arbitrary draedon force field that prevents the blocks from breaking until you collect the schematic

frail fox
errant wren
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turret cooldown after a few shots so that the player can try to break them

misty lichen
indigo yacht
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lab turrets now electrify the floor near them

errant wren
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i feel like... a mod already has something like i was envisioning...

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something redemptive...

fleet grotto
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red dead

errant wren
frail fox
dense locust
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old cotbg no way

indigo yacht
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this is toeing multiple lines but i think it's still a valid suggestion

tardy geyser
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cosmic worm scarf!!!!

novel belfry
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You heard me.

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Give the Onyx themed stuff Onyxplate in their recipes, cowards.

indigo yacht
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no

errant wren
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i just don't really see the point

grim tusk
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im also “should I exclam this or not” cuz atm the reasoning is the bare minimum

errant wren
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cal players don't read so it might be for the best to not so something gets passed to devs

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in all seriousness

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eh maybe exclaim it

grim tusk
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also funny how he uses melee accessory in reasoning when we have been trying to make it less melee over time

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but bloody worm tooth be like that

indigo yacht
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if the reasoning was 'another post ml accessory' i think it would be better

novel belfry
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it definitely needs a rework, especially since we know the hive bosses are getting moved further in progression

grim tusk
#

and the second reasoning also kind of makes his suggestion look worse

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like why would we add another melee acc when mage and ranger need new ones so bad

indigo yacht
errant wren
#

make bloody worm tooth and scarf ranger accessories, obviously

dense locust
indigo yacht
#

why do you fear? be not afraid.

idle dagger
#

I think suggesting an upgrade to bloody worm scarf could work if tweaked a lot and added a lot of reasoning

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personally I’ve always thought it should just change from being melee to all classes if it got upgraded

indigo yacht
#

can we talk about how bws is the more boring upgrade of all time

crude geode
#

what is

umbral gazelle
#

blood worm scarf!?

indigo yacht
#

bloody worm scarf yes

umbral gazelle
#

i shall make a suggestion about renaming bloody worm scarf to something else because it sounded like blood worm and has nothing to do with blood worm clueless

kind laurel
grim tusk
#

An answer for sure but still not sufficient
Why should we make an upgrade to BWS despite other classes needing accessories first
(+ amalgam being a pain in the ass balance wise)
(+ retier of evil bosses)

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tbh i wonder if amalgam will even exist with its current theme by then

kind laurel
#

Okay

glass arch
#

so neither of them are balanced in the same ways

grim tusk
#

dev weapons dont count

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also crimson gets more enemies in vanilla

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tbh if Bloody Worm tooth becomes more general I could see a BWS upgrade added with little to no issue

glass arch
frail fox
#

Donor

glass arch
#

shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

idle dagger
#

I feel like it’s weird anyway that one of the evil biome’s drop is melee focused while the other is all class

umbral gazelle
idle dagger
#

Maybe I’ll do that later

crude geode
#

really like this suggestion

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it is funny but also why

indigo yacht
# umbral gazelle

i would bet money this only exists because they didnt know how to emulate duke fishron behavior and split the difference

novel belfry
#

Actually yknow what

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The onyx sugg can come a different day

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Make Onyx Chain Blaster and/or Onyxia use Onyxplates in their crafting recipes

They are themed almost identically. Both have black and purple colorations and are referred to as Onyx. You'd think Onyxplate would be used in the crafting recipes based off the name, but it's not. Therefore, it'd be ideal for this inconsistency to be straightened out.

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im gonna write something more interesting

indigo yacht
#

ok

keen zodiac
#

counterpoint: there's way too fucking many early/mid hm armors

thorn dock
#

I heavily enjoy the early- mid game diversity

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Its a strong point why this game is so exciting

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Actually I could imagine it would feel better if it would be vice versa (to a degree) but it isnt

hybrid snow
#

how endgame are you talking when you suggest this? because there's definitely quite a bit of variety pre auric tesla

thorn dock
#

From the endgame point, beeing able to have more loadouts to run and test at this stage could be really refreshing. Not many different loadouts to run once you are done with the bosses

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Is quite very narrow on the top

weary bane
#

there's also gem tech armor and the eventuall exo armor

hybrid snow
#

i forget gem tech exists

thorn dock
#

Is a little bit underused, yes

hybrid snow
#

i dont really get why its not even bad

weary bane
#

personally i wouldn't be surprised if gemtech armor becomes the new shadowspec armor

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cause demonshade is being retiered to post scal and an actual exo armor will be added eventually

hybrid snow
#

i think its a very cool concept but its at a stage of the game that auric tesla is just better in most scenarios

#

gemtech retier would be chill imo

thorn dock
#

Also demonshade favors summoners, auric beeing the only (underused gemtech aside) that has different head slot for each class

hybrid snow
#

i dont think the summoner set bonus is a huge deal imo

weary bane
#

demonshade is gonna be expanded for more classes when it's retiered

thorn dock
#

Well 2 is better than one

keen zodiac
#

they're also adding old duke and polterghast armors

thorn dock
#

Oh that sounds great, wasnt aware of that

#

Might as well put it down, thats some effort beeing done

teal yarrow
#

the turret suggestion is pretty cool

#

i feel like a crosshair that tracks the player slowly and shoots after a certain period of time would be nice

keen zodiac
#

that sounds too unfair for how slow you are early game and how enclosed labs are

#

i think turrets rn are the perfect amount of pain in the ass

indigo yacht
#

make the turret bolts reflect off walls and ceilings

keen zodiac
#

yeah you can just place blocks but that takes a while

teal yarrow
#

well its prety easy to destroy turrets if youre right beside them

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cuz their tracking speed is so slow

indigo yacht
#

it actually takes like 1 frame

#

thats a pretty low amount of time

keen zodiac
#

not if you wanna inch over and destroy the turret

teal yarrow
#

you could also just

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grapple to it

indigo yacht
#

space planetoid turrets are on the crest of a hill

#

you only need to place 3 blocks to break both turrets

#

sunken sea you need more, i think like 7

teal yarrow
#

no no\

indigo yacht
#

it does not require an excess of effort or time

teal yarrow
#

you can just dig into the lab

#

not many people wanna ruin the structure tho

indigo yacht
#

yeah but we're talking about how long it takes to do something

#

destroying the turrets in the planetoid and sunken sea labs takes like

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15 seconds max

#

if you have no idea what you're doing, maybe upwards of a minute

keen zodiac
#

i feel like that's plenty

indigo yacht
#

it feels like a chore

#

not an environmental hazard

indigo yacht
#

sorry i didn't take you seriously to begin with you don't count

novel belfry
#

Give the Harvest Staff a line of upgrades

You rework a mage weapon into a sentry. You make the pumpkins it spawns incredibly adorable. You push the explosive pumpkins all over, so much so that the entire major update it's part of is named directly after the weapon. You are clearly attempting to make these cute bois a marketable mascot for Calamity.

But there is one critical mistake you made: You did not make this upgradable in any capacity. You have no reason to use this weapon if beyond the beginning of the game in any conceiveable away. This means that a weapon that had an entire major update named after it, ultimately won't be used for the vast majority of it. This is a MAJOR mistake for something so marketable.

drowsy plank
#

incredible

novel belfry
#

oh and also make pumpkins generate all year around so you can have the harvest staff all year round

hybrid snow
#

doesnt dryad sell pumpkin seeds

tepid crown
#

yes

#

u can also get pumpkin seeds pre boss via stuffed fish

novel belfry
#

yeah but that just makes the harvest staff POST-boss

#

lame

tepid crown
#

uh

#

stuffed fish are pre boss

novel belfry
#

OYEAH

#

neat

keen zodiac
#

what if cal adds a tiny little pumpkin patch structure somewhere in the forest so you can get stuff outside october

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kinda like the mechanic's workshop in size and concept

indigo yacht
#

(cactus)

tepid crown
#

oh yeah u can shimmer cactus for pumpkin

#

wait no

#

u still need seeds

indigo yacht
#

honestly idk harvest line recipe

tepid crown
indigo yacht
#

ah

keen zodiac
#

who finds shimmer pre boss anyway

indigo yacht
#

me

novel belfry
indigo yacht
#

40 votes

weary bridge
#

took me like 3 days cuz idk how to do mods

indigo yacht
#

nice

grim tusk
#

didnt we have Music Display support already?

vestal crater
#

Fanny the Fanny pack

weary bridge
lucid marsh
#

I'm not sure how you'd improve the lab turrets

#

If they could shoot through blocks, then they'd just be way too strong. The only strategy to deal with them is to find a place where you can mine them but they can't shoot you

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And making a place like this is the easiest

novel belfry
#

I mean, we could just replace the biocenter lab turrets with the other new types of turrets, since those exist and even have hostile versions already placed in game

#

that said they're definitely designed against enemies rather than players

#

but hmm

lucid marsh
#

This is more a game design thing

scarlet musk
#

am i allowed to make a suggestion to rename an item?

#

i was gonna make one asking to rename infected armor plating to contaminated armor plating

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since like

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it's metal

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it can't be infected

errant wren
#

i only say this because i thought about it: plant ores

#

this isn't an argument against it or anything but like

ripe owl
#

Uuuh I don't think Peanutbutter Gello was made out of Perennial ore

lucid marsh
half imp
#

it's more likely

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that it's metal

#

and the infection is nanomachines so like

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they can do what they want idk

indigo yacht
#

me and my ungodly metallic god-defying abomination

celest olive
#

what does 🗜️ mean

frail mantle
#

Some formatting issue I think

olive saddle
#

too long

celest olive
#

ruh roh

glass arch
#

yeah gotta cut it down to body of <1000

frail mantle
#

Do note that miracle matter weapons are all being redesigned, which I’d wager a guess means changes to their attack effects as well

celest olive
#

again??

frail mantle
#

Yes

celest olive
#

they already resprited all of them 💀

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except magnomaly

#

screw magnomaly

frail mantle
#

But this time the actual core design of miracle matter in general is changing

celest olive
#

why 💀

frail mantle
#

Cause the devs aren’t satisfied with how it looks currently

celest olive
#

rip my random scratch project where i recreated all the miracle matter weapons (besides the excalibur)

frail mantle
#

That’s usually the reason they change things

celest olive
#

i swear they're unsatisfied with the whole frickin mod with all these changes

frail mantle
#

Well

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About that

celest olive
#

...

frail mantle
celest olive
#

*makes whole new mo

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wait

#

thats just calamity fables

#

isnt it

glass arch
#

no

#

fables is a take on calamity by former members of the dev team

frail mantle
#

Time is a flat circle

glass arch
#

anyways yeah you very rarely see people that actually think their work is finished

frail mantle
#

Base cal devs don’t have that privilege

glass arch
#

mod of theseus

frail mantle
#

So they have to deal with the near decade of ancient bullshit base cal has accrued over its lifetime

celest olive
#

real

#

i swear they're trying to do too much

#

5 minibiomes for sunken sea 💀

glass arch
#

the devs agree that the current update is scopecrept to hell

frail mantle
#

Yeah

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But that’s less because of the sunken sea itself and more because of all the other bullshit they put in there because they were bored waiting for progress to be made on the actual point of the update I think

glass arch
#

paraphrasing here but essentially its a major learning experience and the devs dont want to do something like this again

scarlet musk
#

ok im thinking i want to make a suggestion about reworking the plague homing missiles and mines that PBG spawns during her fight. because they are so hard to see, deal stupid damage, and they're so hard to dodge mixed with all the other stuff she does such as the stingers she fires, the dashes that take up most of your brain power, and the nuke barrage

oblique birch
#

The dahses do take up most of my brain power

scarlet musk
#

it's really hard to dodge the dashes without concentrating on them, but there's also an invisible cloud of bs following you that deals a shitload of damage

scarlet musk
#

okay that suggestions done

#

i wanna make another one something to the effect of

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De-Clusterfuck-ify PBG's projectiles

#

i made a suggestion like a year ago to make the stingers easier to see and that was implemented

thorn dock
#

I enjoy current PBG, feels like the 1st Boss thats challenging pre ML, like a nice Milestone.
I see her like a post ML Boss prep to help advance in skill and become more secure in movement.

#

Took some time to develope a dash pattern that works against her frequent dashes while also beeing followed by missiles.
At first its challenging but after a while it feels rewarding beeing able to tackle and foresee her patterns

indigo yacht
#

I don't care about pbg it's just queen bee but more boring

#

nice theme music but that goes for basically every boss in the game

teal yarrow
#

.

teal yarrow
indigo yacht
#

providence is NOT firey eol but yeah ravager is trashy

gilded citrus
glass arch
#

provi is less spinny ice queen hdflr

indigo yacht
#

spitting?

teal yarrow
gilded citrus
#

Provi partially has ice queen ai iirc

#

For movement

glass arch
#

because that is what the ai is based off of

frail fox
#

Fire queen

teal yarrow
#

slay queen when

teal yarrow
#

at least ravager drops helpful loot

glass arch
#

what about old duke

teal yarrow
#

holy shit is that sisyphus prime

indigo yacht
echo leaf
#

I think the solution to this problem would be that wulfrum enemies will spawn more frequently in hardmode

#

Could also be that wulfrum amplifiers or lures will begin attracting rovers

distant gyro
#

lures already do this

#

sobbing

echo leaf
#

they do????

distant gyro
#

waot its indev

echo leaf
#

yeah that's what I thought

distant gyro
#

sso just a week away

echo leaf
#

I remember complaining about rover drives a while ago

#

In the meantime you just need to use the crappy, shitty, SLOW method to GRIND it...

#

zerg potions, battle potions, chaos candles, water candles, ceaseless hunger potions and/or conveyor belts, mechworms and vanguards, platforms to optimize spawn rates...

indigo yacht
#

this suggestion is bad but the sentiment is fair

echo leaf
#

agreed

errant wren
#

is my luck good or something?

#

because i swear i get at least 3 by the end of pre-hardmode consistently

royal tapir
#

10% drop chance

errant wren
#

the real answer is making a wulfrum mini-boss that drops it clueless

drowsy plank
#

the wulfrum boss will be real in 5

indigo yacht
#

6

echo leaf
#

7

dense locust
#

6

drowsy plank
#

109587409328676745

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goodbye wulfrum boss i sent you to the heat death of the universe

errant wren
#

32

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hi wulfrum boss i brought you back to day of the next big cal update after sso

echo leaf
#

3299910028583012866

#

perish

olive saddle
errant wren
echo leaf
#

dual release date, like doom and animal crossing

errant wren
#

oh shoot

#

i meant to say silksong 2

#

how about a compromise of 99999999999999: the day the sun explodes

remote dune
#

@teal yarrow theres a mod that adds recipes for some calamity accessories if you want it that bad

grave zincBOT
#

@wet canyon - Your suggestion has received an updated status!

[make acid rain visuals more distinct]

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[Add Endgame Hammer]

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[Decrease the amount of tiles required for artificial Astral Biomes to around 300]

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[Replace Cirrus' Dress to something]

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[Add the texture of wings of rebirth to Sereph tracers]

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prisma sedge
errant wren
#

yellow water again

frail fox
#

Welcome back piss sea

indigo yacht
olive saddle
#

idk

errant wren
#

not fnaf 2, no

echo leaf
#

i have no earthly idea why the cirrus' dress clone got shot down

drowsy plank
#

lmao

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oh wait these ARE the rejections

#

im dumb

errant wren
#

cog moment

frail fox
#

What will the people do without an armor piece that’s never worth using

drowsy plank
#

it was worth using back when alcohols were just a million billion stats but also you could just

echo leaf
#

I mean... yeah it's pretty bad but uhhhh

drowsy plank
#

use normal armor at that point

echo leaf
#

i'm struggling to find a reason to justify its existence beyond "it's pretty fun sometimes"

prisma sedge
errant wren
misty lichen
#

idk what would be different now

#

feel free to repost it urself if you want

drowsy plank
misty lichen
#

that didnt matter it didn’t make it into voting before anyways

echo leaf
#

so... Dress

errant wren
errant wren
indigo yacht
#

i think that

#

if the cirrus' dress suggestion didn't talk some shit about permafrost's coat and instead just focused on some sort of generic item (maybe an accessory or... something, idk) that messed with the max alcohol count it would have gotten through

errant wren
#

oh yeah the sugg was really goofy

indigo yacht
#

bc an accessory that increases your max alcohol count could have a few uses maybe

willow widget
#

perhaps a drink mixer....

indigo yacht
#

new mixologist class

errant wren
#

embodied by one weapon but all the alcohols ever

echo leaf
#

maybe when alcohols become more interesting than "number go up regen/defenss go down"

indigo yacht
#

mixology tomorrow

teal yarrow
#

new feature that lets you replace your organs with other shit you find along your journey

#

mechanical liver for more booze

willow widget
#

replace my pancreas with a rock

teal yarrow
#

actually use the demon heart from WoF and tie a regen band around it

errant wren
#

this is cyberpunk 2077

teal yarrow
#

the moment i realized the weakness of my flesh...

#

i decided to replace it with others' flesh

errant wren
#

is it?

glass arch
#

yeah generally you dont put chests inside your arena

#

especially not late hardmode or post moon lord

errant wren
#

the only thing i can think of is smart cursor

#

but, you can turn that off

teal yarrow
#

trying to heal with nurse but a chest is in my way:

#

this is kinda situational tho

glass arch
#

imma be real with you

errant wren
teal yarrow
#

oops mb i misread

errant wren
#

happens to the best of cal players

glass arch
glass arch
errant wren
teal yarrow
#

happens to players

glass arch
#

happens to video game players

errant wren
#

happens

teal yarrow
#

hap

errant wren
#

h

teal yarrow
#

h.s.

errant wren
#

WHA

glass arch
teal yarrow
umbral gazelle
#

h.t.v.g.p

golden sonnet
#

Isn't this the same as vanilla weapons with right clicks?

errant wren
#

idk i don't play terraria clueless

#

but yeah i wouldn't know

indigo yacht
#

me when the left control

#

press it and your problems will disappear like lies on a summer breeze

analog wharf
#

DO NOT GET RID OF ANKH CHARM CRAFTING RECIPE PLEASE

#

whatever dev is seeing this I beg you a brother works 40 hours a week I don’t have TIME to farm it

dense locust
#

then dont make ankh?

#

also like
it takes maybe 25 minutes assuming you're starting from scratch

glass arch
#

its not even that hard to farm it yeah

dense ferry
#

We've buffed several of the drop rates and now you can shimmer shit, it's a lot easier to get it

glass arch
#

ive gotten like 6 or 7 bezoars alone from a single pre hardmode jungle trip

drowsy plank
oblique birch
#

Zerg + Battle + Water candle + Chaos candle

#

it's just that easy

drowsy plank
#

true

analog wharf
#

bro I’m not cheating tho

#

top 5 worst moments in calamity mod history

#

actually I didn’t see that drop rates were buffed

indigo yacht
analog wharf
#

that’s bullshit tho

oblique birch
# drowsy plank true

SSO will also make Bloody Mary boosts spawn rate more than Zerg XD, so you can even combine it into the mix too

indigo yacht
#

bu mah piercing wepun ...

analog wharf
oblique birch
indigo yacht
drowsy plank
#

LMAO

glass arch
#

and its not a small one theres a large subset of players that just dont interact with non boss content

analog wharf
#

I do all the time

#

I’ll send my 20+ playthroughs that all have over 50+ hours on

#

on just calamity alone

#

I spend a stupid amount of time building with my friend so it pisses me off when I have some dick head

glass arch
#

what did you post

indigo yacht
#

i hate this server

analog wharf
#

dumb ahh

glass arch
#

it costs you nothing to not be an ass 👍

indigo yacht
dense ferry
#

It's really not that bad, Shimmer made it far better

analog wharf
#

no I agree with you completely

#

I’m saying this Elsi guy who’s been talking shit in like 2 channels

#

like bro hop off it’s not that deep

indigo yacht
#

:3

hybrid mesa
#

idk what's the trouble with old duke suggestion

#

"omg so scary a fish awoken"

grave zincBOT
#

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[Create more uses for solar veils]

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muted geyser
oblique birch
#

why would you want both Wings of Rebirth and Seraph Tracers be the same theme and look similar to each other?

#

Seraph can go with a different thematic than Yharon Wings but on boots

#

and make those 2 look distinct

muted geyser
#

which, tbf, is not nothing, thats a free weapon or scals altar

grave zincBOT
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oblique birch
#

A lot of updates today

dense locust
#

cant believe solar veils are dying

hybrid mesa
#

if you don't want to farm for yharon just buy the bag if you have alchemistnpc

tiny minnow
#

You guys don't farm Yharon for the pet?

gritty plaza
#

oh well

#

Make Seraph Tracers have six wings
it would be biblically accurate

half imp
#

For accidentally opening chests with right clicks:

#

Turn off auto cursor.

#

it would be much more inconvenient for most to have to switch items to open chests

gritty plaza
#

good suggestion

#

:D

#

hovering is rad and more things should do it

thorn dock
#

Ty 🙂

half imp
#

the suggestion is technically slightly wrong

#

or well

#

Almost all hovers only reduce flight time consumption when sitting still

#

Hadarian wings are the exception to this and are always 4x when hovering

hybrid snow
#

i didnt even know hover reduced flight time at all 😭

half imp
#

basically, it doubles your flight time

hybrid snow
#

i would like to see it in the later game though as right now your only real option for very precise movement is featherfall... which most people wont use

half imp
#

starboard is viable for the whole rest of the game

idle dagger
#

If you want very very precise movement you can use brimstone chair post DoG

#

That might be very late obviously

half imp
#

Hover gives much higher accel and speed than that

hybrid snow
#

thats true, and i guess pre polter and post dog is a very narrow window lol

#

2 bosses clueless

idle dagger
#

Also true it’s not remotely as fast as wings

half imp
#

But a hover would be kinda wasted on yharon

#

vertical boss when the hover

hybrid snow
#

really? i find it very useful with the bullet hells

idle dagger
#

yharon is a very- yeah vertical boss

hybrid snow
#

i feel like the only vertical bit is the p2 transition

idle dagger
#

Oh I suppose the big flame circles you could get a use

hybrid snow
#

bc all the bullet hells are horizontal

half imp
#

you can do them vertical

#

and in fact it might be easier

idle dagger
#

Unrelated but I suck at Yharon bad

half imp
#

but yeah the BHs might let hovers be useful

#

not as useful as a jetpack would be for yharon...

idle dagger
#

I think very fast moving bosses like Duke are something I struggle with most

#

Yharon feels like the epitome of it

hybrid snow
#

i guess it depends if youre talking rev or death yharon too

#

imo old duke feels a lot faster

idle dagger
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Technically speaking isn’t godhover slayboard in the Plans™️

idle dagger
hybrid snow
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my main concern with a lategame hover is just... theres not really that many bosses at that point? and most of them you can just use a lot of other strats to deal with

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i guess itd be quite nice for exos though

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but borderline useless on scal..

half imp
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Godslayer wings of some type yes

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But not necessarily a hoverboard

idle dagger
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Oh gotcha

hybrid snow
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i feel like a hoverboard would be so underwhelming for godslayer wings im sorry 😭

idle dagger
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I don’t really use hover ever

hybrid snow
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im a featherfall guy all the way through so me neither

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but i do know people really like it

thorn dock
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Also its a reaaally nice way to move in general

idle dagger
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I use infinite flight mounts if I want to fly for building generally

thorn dock
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Yet there is no good reason to exclude this kind of movement from the game once a certain Progression point has been reached right?

hybrid snow
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well

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if hover trivialises certain bosses there definitely could be a case (although i dont think that it would as it is now)

half imp
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if hover trivializes a boss

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we should make the boss better

thorn dock
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How likely is that?

hybrid snow
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this is true

half imp
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bc that would also mean you can trivialize them by running in one direction

hybrid snow
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exos...

hybrid snow
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but i thought an exos rework* was in the plans? although i may be making this completely up

gilded citrus
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Most bosses are likely to get some changes now fabsol is gone iirc

gritty plaza
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For exos you don't even have to run on a flat platform, I did barely any terraforming and just flew to the left while going up when I needed and it worked

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So yeah hover cheese is a symbol of a bad boss and hovering is epic and we should have more of it

hybrid snow
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fun fact you can just fly in a straight line to the left forever during mayhem!

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and you will never get hit

gritty plaza
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Ares mayhem attack?

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Really?

hybrid snow
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yeah when theres all 3 mechs on screen after the first duo phase

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you can just... straight line

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and never get hit

gritty plaza
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Game design is my passion

hybrid snow
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can i post links in here?

gritty plaza
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Think so

inner rover
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Guys what does it mean when the bot marks your suggestion with a 🗜

gritty plaza
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Dunno if it'll embed tho

gritty plaza
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For yours it's probably too long, there's a 1k character limit

inner rover
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Ah, I'll need to shorten it then

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Ok thanks

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I'll redo

gritty plaza
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Summoners are eating well

hybrid snow
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afaik this has been a part of the exos fight for as long as theyve been in the mod

hybrid snow
lapis canyon
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nah you use to fall diagonally

drowsy plank
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@inner rover that is a rebalance suggestion

lapis canyon
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back when the eyes we at the side

gritty plaza
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True

hybrid snow
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oh yeah

inner rover
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Oh it is? Ah man

indigo yacht
thorn dock
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Taking it down, ty

gritty plaza
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Course stuff passing doesn't mean it'll happen but march wasn't that long ago

tardy geyser
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they should make all items craftable

gritty plaza
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Add a crafting recipe from one dirt to every item
I can't be arsed playing the game but I want my funny sword

echo leaf
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I was made for this

tepid crown
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why do you have 283k dirt

echo leaf
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why don't you have 283k dirt?

tepid crown
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because im not a weirdo who constantly digs dirt

echo leaf
tepid crown
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wild

echo leaf
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no more surface
all gone

gilded citrus
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Lmao

echo leaf
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I like this suggestion

worldly saffron
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it was also a little in part due to the fact that when I first tried the set I was expecting it to attack

echo leaf
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It could cause problems if it had too much knockback, though... maybe it could have similar DPS, but only attack with a hitscan laser? So it can only zap one thing at a time.

worldly saffron
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that's fair, I definitely don't want it to do any meaningful DPS in combat, but at least do either enough damage to keep annoyances away or enough knockback so they can't touch me

echo leaf
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Yeah, at the end of the day, any attack is better than none at all

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as long as the attack is reasonably designed, 'course

worldly saffron
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something akin to the marnite enchantment from Fargo's would be nice, they don't do anything crazy but it's still enough to keep most enemies from getting to me long enough to not force me to instantly drop what I'm doing to kill a bat

echo leaf
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Yeah, that's why I was thinking of a zap kinda thing. Like a Clash of Clans Inferno Tower without the scaling mechanic.

worldly saffron
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Fargo's actually makes it so that the marnite enchantment doesn't attack at all if you're attacking

echo leaf
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Too weak to function on getting good killtimes on bosses, but still strong enough to dispatch a slow trickle of bats or slimes

worldly saffron
echo leaf
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Oh yeah that looks perfect

teal yarrow
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they're killing solar veils????

echo leaf
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not 100% what I was imagining but it totally works fine

echo leaf
teal yarrow
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damn solar veils had so much potential tho